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Speaker 1: So let's set it up. Last night was Dodgers Padres.

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Speaker 1: It's baseball, and you're like, whoa, whoa. You know, Game

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Speaker 1: six of the NBA Finals was last night, Gottley, but I

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Speaker 1: get it, okay, but Dodgers Padres and you had the uh,

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Speaker 1: you had the benches clear. You know, you had more

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Speaker 1: than a kerfuffle. Now this is a bit of a

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Speaker 1: beanball war that had begun previous days, right, and remember

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Speaker 1: you go back to last year when the Padres had

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers that was at two games to one Jase

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Speaker 1: two and seemed to have.

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Speaker 2: Him dead to rights. Correct, And if you remember at

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: The the Padres were, they were running their mouths and

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Speaker 1: again it's it's actually how they do what they do.

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Speaker 1: They have some guys that that's how they play. It's

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Speaker 1: how they play. It's a loud group. And then yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts came up with some story of a ball

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Speaker 1: being thrown his direction and the pond for the review

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Speaker 1: it was not. But whatever it took, the Dodgers rallied,

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Speaker 1: won the series, went on to win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: So you don't just have two teams to spend a lot. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Dodgers spend more. You have some bitterness, you know, between

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Speaker 1: the clubs over former Dodgers playing for the Padres. You

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Speaker 1: have San Diego people, you know, let's just be honest.

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Speaker 1: They like Philadelphia, their little brother to Los Angeles. They

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Speaker 1: got some really cool things. Who doesn't love San Diego.

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Speaker 1: But there's definitely an insecurity there. And then you have

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Speaker 1: the idea that you know, two years ago Padres knocked

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers out of the playoffs. Last year they were

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Speaker 1: knocking on the door of it, talking a bunch of ish,

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Speaker 1: and then ultimately Dodgers win the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Then I summon up well out there, Jase two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good setup. I like to

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Speaker 3: just say that the Dodgers play the right way and

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Speaker 3: the Podreys do not. So this last night was the

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Speaker 3: fourth game of a four game series. Each game had

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Speaker 3: a significant amount of tension. Last night was pretty darn quiet.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the Dodgers did, I think what they've done

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Speaker 3: a couple times this year. It's an odd trait, but

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Speaker 3: they do it. They basically punted the game. It was

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Speaker 3: A pitch gets away from the rookie and his tattoos

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Speaker 3: so look bad. But I really do think it got

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Speaker 3: I want to say it's a cultural thing. He just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: The Padres feel like they've replaced the Giants. Is that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they really want to use the word rival. I

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Speaker 3: think even Daniel Jeremiah are our resident Padre fan. He

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Speaker 3: That's a great way to say right now, in this moment.

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Speaker 3: But the Giants and Dodgers go back one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of the only exciting, right because Cubs,

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Speaker 4: Doug If I may, I feel like not being a

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Speaker 4: and what I mean football, Excuse me of what's gone

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Speaker 4: and big brother never wants to admit little brother is

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Speaker 4: And it feels like that's where we're at right now,

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Speaker 4: begrudgingly trying to find ways not to call them your

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Speaker 5: That you have so much more history with.

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Speaker 1: I still think the Dodgers are the nemesis of the Padres.

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Speaker 1: I still think the Dodgers are the nemesis of the Padres.

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Speaker 4: That's no, no, no, I'm just saying it's one it's one way.

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Speaker 4: It's the Padres absolutely think the Dodgers are their rival.

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Speaker 4: It's just the Dodgers fans would like to think it's

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Speaker 1: No, the Giants have been the rival. Yeah, right, they

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Speaker 1: go back to New York together. That's that's the point

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Speaker 1: that that Jason was making. And the Giants have won.

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Speaker 1: Whether they win three World Series in six years or whatever,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Buyer, what about you give me your thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the example that I would use is actually, dug

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Speaker 6: I don't know if hatred is the right word, but

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Speaker 5: I almost I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say that the Bears and Packers

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl. But that's how I kind of feel about

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Speaker 1: Here's another kind of point to add to your point,

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Speaker 1: you know, to add to your point, dan Is, I

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Speaker 1: think the Vikings thing has always been Yeah, they haven't

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Speaker 1: And then adding Manny changed it some for the Padres

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Speaker 5: Yeah, different levels, but because many you know wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mandy Machada was only a Dodger for like a

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Speaker 1: But part of it was, you know, Manny's a guy

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Speaker 6: There's what there's also the just the geography of it, yes,

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Speaker 6: Geography just plays such a huge role of it, of

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Speaker 5: So there's something to that as well.

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Speaker 4: I think because the trophy case is empty, it means

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Speaker 4: I know, a bunch of Michigan State fans. They still

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Speaker 5: But like that's held on too by the Little Brothers.

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Speaker 6: How many Michigan State Michigan games now there have been

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Speaker 6: feels like like the Packers aren't innocent in the Bears

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Speaker 6: But sometimes it's the team that doesn't want anything that

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Speaker 3: Like what I like about the Michigan State analogy, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not from there, so this is kind of an

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Speaker 3: outside looking in perspective. Michigan State seems to play the

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Speaker 3: quote a rivalry when the Padres have a good team,

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Speaker 3: you know, Michigan is the juggernaut there. And when Michigan

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Speaker 4: It's just ten years ago with Nardoozy as the coach,

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen all the time. Dodgers and Giants

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Speaker 3: Could we play Shilty last night because he's got himself

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Speaker 9: That's how this game's played. And you want to call

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Speaker 1: I don't mind old school baseball. I think baseball needs this.

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Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it's Stuck got Lieb Show

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Speaker 1: I was watching the postgame coverage on NBA TV last

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Speaker 1: Your TJ McConnell like I was in TJ McConnell, like

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Speaker 1: It's something that everybody thinks that there are I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: He says that it's true.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 10: Games, so undefeated he didn't play as well. In the

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Speaker 3: Now she's with the Mercury.

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Speaker 10: So I can't be more proud to say I have

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Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable story. Is his his daughter just made

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Mark Stein joints this. You know, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I I just told I just said it straight up, like,

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Speaker 2: To decide who wins the championship.

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Speaker 8: They still have to win one more game, and it's

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Speaker 8: I was gonna ask you, is there is there any

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City wins it, undoubtedly we'll get the.

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Speaker 2: Beginning of a new dynasty when we don't know that.

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Speaker 2: That's just it's just too early. If Indiana wins it,

439
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Speaker 2: what will the narrative be.

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Speaker 8: Well, Look, I would say if OKC does win, I mean,

441
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Speaker 8: they are one of the few teams equipped in this

442
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Speaker 8: new NBA to have a dynasty because they have so

443
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Speaker 8: much optionality with their draft picks that they're going to

444
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Speaker 8: be able to move salary out but bring new players in. Like,

445
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Speaker 8: they are so well set up for the future. So

446
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Speaker 8: in okay C's case, the talk is unavoidable and it

447
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 8: will be justified. Look, coming into this finals, I dubbed

448
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Speaker 8: it the Vibes Finals because we had Miles Turner before

449
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Speaker 8: this series saying that our team men and their team

450
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Speaker 8: are fueled by the power of friendship, which, like, I

451
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Speaker 8: don't know how sustainable that is, but I can promise

452
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Speaker 8: you there are a lot of teams out there that

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Speaker 8: hope Miles Turner is correct, because friendship is something you

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Speaker 8: can build without messing up your salary caps. So look,

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Speaker 8: I don't know how sustainable it is. I don't know

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Speaker 8: how replicable it is, if that's even a word, But

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Speaker 8: I mean this, you know it would be. It would

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Speaker 8: also you know, it gives hope to the whole league

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Speaker 8: because the Pacers have done it, like you said, with pace,

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Speaker 8: but also with depth. They have gone for Haliburton and

461
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Speaker 8: Yakam are two very good players. I mean, don't get

462
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Speaker 8: me wrong, these are two of the fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 8: best players in the league. But they it's the depth

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Speaker 8: that they put around them too. Like they are not

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Speaker 8: trying to do it as a super team whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show Fox Sports Trader, that's the voice of

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein.

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Speaker 2: Mark. How long after Game seven is the first trade made?

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Speaker 8: Well, look, I mean the first trades already happened to me.

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Speaker 8: I mean that so look, we all have our eyes

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Speaker 8: on Durant. We're all waiting to see how that's going

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Speaker 8: to play out. But I mean Beshis and Orlando did

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Speaker 8: a deal on June fifteenth. I mean, that's crazy early.

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Speaker 8: That's ten days before the draft, right in the middle

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Speaker 8: of the finals. You know, it does kind of show

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Speaker 8: you what it underlines and illustrates what a lot of

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Speaker 8: people are expecting. That's the kind of action they're expecting,

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Speaker 8: and it's going to have to all be trades because

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Speaker 8: nobody has cap space, and to be honest, the free

480
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Speaker 8: agent class isn't exactly teaming with superstar difference makers because

481
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Speaker 8: very rarely in the modern NBA do players wait for

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Speaker 8: free agency. Everybody does an extension so they don't have

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Speaker 8: to deal with free agency. So we're going to see trades,

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Speaker 8: and you are going to see trades on Draft night

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Speaker 8: for sure, because picks are going to be moving around.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be you know, it will all it

487
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Speaker 8: will probably all be over by July fourth, but it

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Speaker 8: will be fireworks until July fourth. I'm pretty pretty.

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Speaker 1: Sure what happens. What happens with the Lakers and new ownership, Well, look.

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Speaker 8: In the short term, in the short term, they have

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Speaker 8: to deal with a salary cap situation that they have,

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Speaker 8: which is they just don't have a great amount of flexibility.

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Speaker 8: But for the long term, I think you're going to

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Speaker 8: see there, you know, the way they've run the Dodgers.

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Speaker 8: I mean, obviously in baseball it's different because there are

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Speaker 8: no limits on free agency and they can sign Otani

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Speaker 8: and then just keep signing great players. You obviously cannot

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Speaker 8: do that in the NBA, but they can. They can

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Speaker 8: beef up infrastructure, they can you know, by all accounts,

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Speaker 8: I don't see how this isn't a tremendous thing for

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Speaker 8: the Lakers. Now we'll have to see how long Jeanie

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Speaker 8: Buss actually remains as the operating owner of the team.

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Speaker 8: But the Dodgers and the Lakers already had a strong

504
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Speaker 8: working relationship as it is patic Johnson, Lon Rosen, these

505
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Speaker 8: are two of the most inteval figures with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 8: and they are you know, lifelong, lifelong Laker people. Really,

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Speaker 8: So I think a lot of teams in the NBA

508
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 8: are nervous about it because again, you can't outspend. It's

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Speaker 8: not even in the NBA. It's not even just the

510
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Speaker 8: salary cap. It's when you go into the second apron

511
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Speaker 8: and just all the team building tools you lose. So

512
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Speaker 8: Steve Balmer has already run into the Steve Balmer would

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Speaker 8: spend anything you could to make the Clippers better. But

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Speaker 8: if you go in the second apron, you can't aggregate

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Speaker 8: salaries and trades, your draft picks get frozen. You just

516
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Speaker 8: run into all these issues building your team. So being

517
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Speaker 8: insanely rich it doesn't necessarily give you an advantage in

518
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Speaker 8: that space. But there are lots of other ways to

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Speaker 8: boost your organization and make things happen, and it's it's

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Speaker 8: a very it was a very eye catching development, no question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my question is do they build their

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Speaker 1: own arena?

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Speaker 8: You know, which they certainly can because they'll have the

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Speaker 8: finances to do it. But when you realize that it's

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Speaker 8: a purchase price of ten billion and the Lakers don't

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Speaker 8: have their own arena, it just tells you the value

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Speaker 8: of the Laker brand. I mean, Sportico valued the Lakers

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Speaker 8: at eight billion in December, they traded for Luka Doncic

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Speaker 8: in February, and now they're being sold for at least

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Speaker 8: ten million, a figure that some people within the industry

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Speaker 8: think can actually rise. And the Lakers don't own their.

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Speaker 1: Buildings, which is and actually, and one of the points

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Speaker 1: I'd make is normally your president, your GM, especially as

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Speaker 1: obviously Magic Johnson feels like he's going to try and

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Speaker 1: get back in there, and he and Polinka, I mean

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Speaker 1: that didn't work, but Polinka traded for Luca.

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Speaker 2: I don't see Polinka going anywhere.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that Magic. I don't know what Magic

539
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 8: really wants. I mean, you know, Magic could have stayed

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Speaker 8: with the Lakers. You know, he's the one who left,

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Speaker 8: and you know he's he's doing things with the Dodgers.

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00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 8: He object has a zillion business interest. I mean, Magic

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Speaker 8: and Genie Buss have been closed for decades. If Magic

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Speaker 8: wants to register an opinion about the Lakers, that's never

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Speaker 8: been an issue for him. So I don't know that

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Speaker 8: it's going to change as dramatically as people think. But

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Speaker 8: you know, you look at the way they've run the

548
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 8: Dodgers and how could you if you if the Lakers

549
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 8: are your favorite basketball team, how could you not want

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Speaker 8: the same thing?

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Speaker 2: Nick Jou has been open for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they've been pushed away by several coaches who have

553
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: jobs and the organizations have you know, re upped Email Udoka,

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: What happens with the Knicks.

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Speaker 8: Job, Well, they can afford to move Chlow because they

557
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 8: have the only opening in the league. But the reality

558
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 8: and look, there are very good coaches available and Taylor

559
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 8: Jenkins and Mike Brown both interviewed this week. But you know,

560
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 8: are the Knicks waiting because they're trying, you know, they

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Speaker 8: hope that someone on their initial wish list can somehow

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Speaker 8: become available. I mean, you just said it. Billy Donovan

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Speaker 8: I reported last weekend he's in the process of getting

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Speaker 8: an extension with the Bulls email Udoka and the and

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Speaker 8: the Rockets already announced an extension. So like, are the

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Speaker 8: Knicks can go as fast or slow here as they wish,

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Speaker 8: But again, it is going to if they hire the

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Speaker 8: available coaches Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins, Michael Malone, Mike Budenolzer,

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Speaker 8: Frank Vogel, Like they're going to have to do a

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Speaker 8: press conference eventually where they have to explain to the public,

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Speaker 8: you know what number choice is it that they've hired.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they went for five fitting coaches and couldn't

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Speaker 8: speak to any of them. So it's going to be

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Speaker 8: it's going to be a very interesting cell to see

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Speaker 8: how the Knicks approached that, because again the shock that

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 8: Tom Thibodeau was not as significant as you would have thought.

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 8: The shock really stemmed from the fact that so many teams,

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Speaker 8: so many rival teams, looked at this and said, surely

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Speaker 8: the Knicks know the direction they're going if they're firing

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Speaker 8: the coach who's the most successful coach they've had in

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Speaker 8: the twenty first century. And as they've shown us, they

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Speaker 8: clearly they did not know who they could get after

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Speaker 8: firing Tom Thibodeaux. And that is where the shock factor lies.

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Speaker 1: He is Mark Stein. He publishes a substack and you

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Speaker 1: need to download it. You need to read it. It's

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Speaker 1: the Steinline, longtime NBA reporter and insider. Ste Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Enjoy Game seven. We'll talk next week.

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 8: Could be so hard on yourself. You were not TJ McConnell,

589
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 8: but you could pass a little, So don't ooe easy

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00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 8: on yourself.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug

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Speaker 7: gott Leap Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 2: What sound here? Come? Oh? Sorry my bad. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to the press. Dan Byro. What you got, Doug?

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Speaker 6: We've got a landmark lawsuits in college athletics. Yahoo's Sports

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Speaker 6: obtaining documents of the law suit that is apparently the

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Speaker 6: first of its kind. The University of Wisconsin filing a

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Speaker 6: lawsuit against the University of Miami accusing them of poaching

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Speaker 6: a college football player that was under a revenue sharing

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Speaker 6: agreement in Madison.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have friends that are lawyers and

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Speaker 1: that anything any ruling that comes down to, anything that

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Speaker 1: comes down, they try and take shots at it. This

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Speaker 1: is a big thing. I don't know, this is one

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Speaker 1: way in which you can stop it. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk of and you're like, well, you can't. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can't limit somebody. It's like gay, what is the

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Speaker 1: point of a contract if they if you don't have

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Speaker 1: to live up to it, and if you violate that contract,

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Speaker 1: well there has to be some sort of penalty, just

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Speaker 1: like in anywhere else.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 1: So if you're working for somebody or whatever, it's a

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Speaker 1: non compete clause, and I understand you're going to have

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Speaker 1: people will say, well, just make him employees.

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Speaker 2: It is it.

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Speaker 1: We've already gone down the path of essentially professionalized in

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Speaker 1: collegiate sports, and there is some good, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad with it as well, But we go down

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Speaker 1: the path of employees. This will become the law. So

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Speaker 1: this is actually a good thing, But there's so much

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Speaker 1: other stuff. College sports exists in a tax free shelter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have tax exempt status for things purchased by you

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Speaker 1: put make people employees. You run the risk of loot.

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Speaker 1: You likely lose that and as well as a bunch

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Speaker 1: of other things. But the tampering has to stop. Once

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Speaker 1: the guy signs a contract, that's where he plays. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we've been a victim of it. There's tampering

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00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: that goes on in season and even when you sign guys.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm happy, I'm I would support Madison in this.

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Speaker 1: Uh not just because there obviously the big school in

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00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: our system. But this is wrong. Miami's always cheated when

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00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: there were rules. Now when there's some gray rules, they

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Speaker 1: cheat now because that's what Miami does.

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Speaker 2: So good for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Doug in other news.

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Speaker 1: Miami, I said it mark it down. Everybody knows that

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Speaker 1: was the dirtiest football program for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: now that you are allowed to pay players, it's not

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Speaker 1: enough for Miami to just pay players. Now they got

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Speaker 1: to try and pay other people's players that are under contract.

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Speaker 2: That's not right.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, go ahead, that's okay. Indiana Fever guard Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 6: leed's all players in the WNBA and voting for the

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Speaker 6: WNBA All Star Game. Three other Fever players made the

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Speaker 6: top nine in voting, including a Leah Boston who comes

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Speaker 6: in third.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise, Aliah Bosta coming in third A little

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Speaker 1: bit of surprise. Did you guys see that Stephanie White

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Speaker 1: stepped away from the team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she didn't coach last night.

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Speaker 2: And it's her birthday today too.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, I mean, listen, if it's a real

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Speaker 1: family emergency, like go, But that's weird.

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Speaker 3: She missed.

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Speaker 5: I want to say she missed a week ago.

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Speaker 3: She's either married to or she cohabitates with Lisa Salter's

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Speaker 3: ESPN's Lisa Salters. Something's going on with their families.

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Speaker 6: I think, oh, okay, it's not surprising that the Fever players,

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Speaker 6: if you're voting at the arena, if they're putting seventeen

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Speaker 6: thousand in each night as well, like you would expect

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Speaker 6: that they're probably voting for their own players as well.

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Speaker 6: So there's another Caitlin Clark effect, but it maybe isn't

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Speaker 6: necessarily Caitlin Clark effect. But it is Caitlin Clark effect anyway.

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Speaker 6: TV ratings for the in the US for the Stanley

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Speaker 6: Cup Final down a year ago. An average of two

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Speaker 6: point five million viewers watched on TNT. Now last year

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Speaker 6: was on Network TV was on ABC and average at

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Speaker 6: four point one seven million watched. The same matchup between

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Speaker 6: the Panthers and Oilers did get lower ratings than the

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Speaker 6: Four Nations event for Nations face off that took place

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Speaker 6: in February.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just cable to you know, the

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Speaker 1: same thing happens with the NCAA terminal when they moved

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Speaker 1: to TNG as opposed to CBS. The rating short lower

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Speaker 1: number two years ago when the women outrated the men.

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Speaker 2: That's part of the stay.

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Speaker 6: And I heard hockey people complaining about how long this

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Speaker 6: has taken, just like we complain about the NBA.

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Speaker 5: I did the math.

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Speaker 6: It would be week ten in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 6: If if it was week one when the NBA playoffs started,

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Speaker 6: that's where it would be. I think it probably dragged

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Speaker 6: down as well for hockey fans, and that's the press.

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Speaker 5: That get out there and pressed.

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Speaker 7: That was the press.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great game seven Oklahoma City wins.

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Speaker 1: Tune in a Dan Show on Sunday gets you ready

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Speaker 1: for its Doug Gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Tradio