1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who talks. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: What's up? 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: Y'all? 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Is your girl a j holiday? 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: What's up? 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Big dam damn? 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: I'm miss y'all. 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: I love y'all so much. How was your weekend? Aj? 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: I can't talk about it online. It's great, so that crazy? Yeah, 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: I had a good weekend, real good weekend, New Bay 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: what okay, of course not, it's all about me. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Were excellent, y'all. I did a big eye week. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: No, I had a good weekend. No hanging out around town. Nice, 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: hot as fuck. Okay, my car is screaming. It's ninety 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: seven degrees outside and this only Yeah, just like having 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: a shower three times, just you know, natural deorderant. 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: It don't play well right now, it don't. 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: I want to be as as I used to anyway, good, 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: that's debatable. 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: I I went away, y'allf for my birthday. I was 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: gone for an entire week and I just had such 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: a good time. 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: I just needed that break from just everything. 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: And I was in the I was in Europe, and 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: then after I got back from Europe. I went to 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: New York for a couple of days and I just 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: got back. I left last Monday, and I just I'm tired. Now. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Don't have to do nothing right, No. 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: I didn't have to think. I didn't have to think 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: about shit. I just get pretty and show up. Oh 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: I just wish that could be my whole life, Like 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: they can just pretty to show up. 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: That's what we're working towards, you know what I'm saying. 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: But the thing is, then you be booked and busy. Yeah, 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: it just ain't never gonna be just what you want 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: to do. Somebody feed me grapes. I was getting foot 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: massage or eating grapes at the same time. 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm a queen, Like, how do you 42 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: go back? 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: How do you go back? 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: As soon as I got back to America, it was 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: the bullshit. 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: Almost got hit by a car. 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Bitch, get out the straight in New York. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: I'm back planning America. 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: You know. I saw this video on tiktoking with some guys. 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I think they might have been like I don't know, Panama. 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe, but they're just saying like, how like 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: you know a little bit of money you know over 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: there you can really live like a king or a queen. 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: America is just fucking stressful. It's just reads right on 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: this planet. I swear to God when I'm in the Caribbean, 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't have no I don't have to do none 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: of that shit. Just be clear, breathing shit, using the 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: bathroom every day. Like it's just. 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: Different, different, it really is. She's called in America, man, 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: so shout out to taking vacations. But speaking of vacation, 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Malcolm Jamal Warner, y'all went to Costa Rica on vacation 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: and we lost him. That was like losing an uncle. 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: You know. 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, but it definitely happens. 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: It's just and I was just looking at the statistics 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: on a thousand Americans a year die on vacation annually. 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: Be it. The number one reason was like car accidents 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: but or a scooter some type of motor. But two 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: was drowning. That was the number two reason that people 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: die is on vacation. 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Now, water ain't nothing to play with, y'all. 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: I remember there was a post where it showed like 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the shoreline on back and most of the black people like, 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm staying in the one and two, like I'll go, 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I'll go out, you know what I'm saying, especially if 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: I got some braids, and if I got a lace front, 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm at one and two. But if I got braids, 78 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm out right. 79 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: But you gotta be careful with that for real. 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. I got stuck on time, 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: so I know what that. So they're saying he got 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: stuck like in a ripcorn, you know, far out, and 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: then some bystanders did get him ashore, and then the 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Costa Rican Red Cross tried to you know, revive him, 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: but he literally was gone right then. So he had been. 86 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Out too long, too much water. Yep. 87 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember struggling, like you know, you have 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: like those little snorkeling masks. But even with that, you 89 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: have to like breathe. So that's why, like breathing exercises 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: are real good too in cases situations like this. But 91 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: that shit makes you feel so tired trying to fight 92 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: against the current. 93 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: And then the thing is it's always the people who 94 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: are confident swimmers sometimes like confidence can be your downfall 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: because I ain't getting I typically don't go past ankle, 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: maybe I don't go in past my calf. 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: Really, so you don't get in the ocean then my calf. 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: I be like, no, I don't go I be floating 99 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: like I don't. I mean like I have went out 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: to where like I know, the bottom ain't nowhere to 101 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: be found. But hell no, when the water is like 102 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: you can tell when the water is crazy. 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: The only time is when I sit down the peek. 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Girl, why are you even taking beach vacations? I'm confused now, 105 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm even go in there to take pictures that 106 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: collects on. That's what I go for, dich. I'm a 107 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: home mermaid out here. I am going out water. I'm 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: going out man. I need to be able to see 109 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: my feet though, Like I'm not getting in Charleston water 110 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: past ingles. 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: They had this Charlotte boat weekend, and I don't know 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: if y'all saw the videos, y'all google it. 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: When it was that what's that black boat Norman? 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: It's either Norman or uh Wiley, I don't know which 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: one it was on. But first of all, these niggas 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: was fighting like it was a video, like one boat 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: you look at that, they fighting the next literally. 118 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: The boat that was Charlotte. 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the video they was fighting the water look 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: all dirty and nasty, like I don't like. 121 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: It's a fun time, I imagine, but let's not video. 122 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: Let's not let people see that we out there in 123 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: that murky ass order. I'm not getting that. 124 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: That's so funny. You said that because on that same post, 125 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I was on the phone when I saw it. I 126 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: was like, I am so sick of black people. Then 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I went in the commons and I saw somebody was like, 128 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: just get old, ratchet. I'm tired of seeing this shit. 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: And I was, and I said to the person I 130 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: was on the phone with, like, get on, ratchet. Ain't 131 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: that bad, but just don't record it. I don't want 132 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: to see it. And I might want to be get 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: on a ratchet, but you will never see it on TV. 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: No mayn that time I had to say you for 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: the water, no bitch. 136 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I was just about to say that. Y'all tell me 137 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: you had a blow birthday yacht party one time, and 138 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: I had just came back from Anguela swimming in level 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: twenty five. Okay, so now I'm thinking, like, okay, this 140 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: lake water, this ain't shit. The lake water is worse. 141 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: More people drowning lakes per year than in the ocean. 142 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: The current in the lake is different because y'all know 143 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: most lakes are built on top of old towns. Okay, 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: so when y'all hear this about Lake Norman, what's the 145 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: lake in Georgia that warbody never go to that damn lake? 146 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Lamiir lanier la Neiir? Yeah, Lamiir is the fucking casino 147 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis is it lumineer lumiir whatever? Anyway, Yeah, 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: lake in the mirror and Georgianire whatever niggas beginning, It's 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: really not. 150 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: Take so many people every year. I would never go. 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: To that, usually not black people, thought, so I don't. 152 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I think black people really just don't go in there. 153 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: And then also the ancestors is probably pulling legs and 154 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: your birthday. I hopped in there, hopped in that lake 155 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: with no life that's on, thinking I could swim, And 156 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: when I tell y'all, the current was pulling. 157 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: Me under under the boat. Mind you, I was drinking too, 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: So just a whole thank you God moment right saving 159 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: me from myself. But y'all, you. 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: Definitely got to be the water, y'all. 161 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: It was not you that pulled me out. 162 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: It was a guy. 163 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Girl. Imagine you lifting me out the ocean, out the water. 164 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: It was a dude. You might have had one of 165 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: my arms. 166 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I grabbed you and pulled you up. 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: It was definitely a whole man on the boat that 168 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: pulled me up. Shame man, you got to be careful, man, man. 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Malcolm and Jamal Warner. We all grew 170 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: up Austin Cosey show. 171 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: Y'allso I wren into that boat for my birthday. 172 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 2: I did not like there was jet skis. There was 173 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: little like looat and pat guess who didn't touch a 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: liquor water No. 175 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: And I was on the boat in a vest with 176 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: a captain had on. Yeah, shame. 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, rest in peace, machaelm Jamal Warner, and like 178 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: life is so fleeting, like be kind to one another 179 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: and love each other because you just never know, man. 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, So y'all. I don't know if Tam was 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: in attendance because she was in Europe, you know, this 182 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: past week. 183 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: But apparently UK's biggest sex. 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: Festival, swingeth On, returns with one thousand people in attendance. Bitch, 185 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: you think you swack? I was not there, So apparently 186 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: roughly one thousand thrill seekers have taken over a sleepy 187 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Lincolnshire village for the for the UK's biggest swingers festival, 188 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: uh Dub swingeth On. The X rated three day event 189 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: is now its fifth year of drawing sexually liberated guests 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: from across the UK. 191 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: It's sank out there. Stay out there in tints, y'all. 192 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: It's like all kinds of tints on this big ass field, 193 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: lay out there just having sex with each other. 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: You probably can catch it on a porn hub. 195 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: Called the police. 196 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: I wonder if you gotta give any paperwork, like before 197 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: you come a thousand people, Like, out of a thousand people, 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: what is the statistics for like HIV? 199 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: And it's got to be some diseases out there. 200 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'd be thinking like sometimes like people who 201 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: partaking like risky behavior, it's probably because they ain't got 202 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: shit to lose, Like should I already got the thing, 203 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: let me write. 204 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: I might as well go to the swinger throng and 205 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: give it to everybody. 206 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Or like I don't give a funk shit. Yeah you 207 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: want to pussy, you get to pussy my mout head, neck, airs, 208 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: just every whole that's scary to me, no, cool. 209 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: I'm not into none of that stuff. Because people be 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: having like parties, I'll be getting invited to like some 211 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: mild shit and I'd be like, yeah, no, that's not 212 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: my vibe. I'm scared. When I was living in the UK, 213 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: they used to have like this little swingers group on 214 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: the military base. 215 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: And on the military base yep. 216 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: Girl, they used to be into some It was. It 217 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: was the white people though, and they would this was 218 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: your sign that your home was down for the they 219 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: get down. You would put a bottle of tide in 220 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: the window. 221 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: You know. 222 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: In Saint Louis they have it's like a particular flag 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: they put in their yard to let people know that 224 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: they down for swinging. 225 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: So they put a bottle of tide like with the rainbow, 227 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: doesn't I don't know. I don't know which tide it was, 228 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: but that was the indicator that you put it in 229 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: your window cell to let people know you're trying to 230 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: funk outside your relationship. 231 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: It just drow. What does that mean put some time 232 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: in your window? 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I am not interested in catching some 234 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: ship like quick you doubling, tripling, quadruple your chances of 235 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: running into some bullshit right fucking around. 236 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: That's not fun. 237 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Find out some. 238 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: Person feel like work at that point, and there's. 239 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: A lot of dudes who be wanting three sims even 240 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: like I never understand why somebody would like a medium 241 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: dick like wants super fat ass? Why would you want 242 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: multiple women? 243 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: Like? 244 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: What's up? Are you okay? 245 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: Coming off fast? And now you got somebody hits one 246 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: woman sitting here mad? Sorry? Like I just all right? 247 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: If two people are having sex, what am I doing 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: during that time? If I just sitting there and I watching, 249 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: like what is it? Like? What am I if I'm 250 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: rubbing his foot or I'm giggling his balls from underneath, 251 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't want what to do? 252 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what type of ship y'all got 253 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: going on, if it's a threesomewhere, like the women are 254 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: interacting as well, or is you just waiting your turn 255 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: for this one dude? 256 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like what I wouldn't know what 257 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: to do. I would be awkward as fuck, like it's 258 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: just gonna rub your feet while you fuck her? Let 259 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: me tickling, nigga. 260 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: I would not know what to do, So I just kid. 261 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: And then you know, two guys and one girl, Like, 262 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, that sounds not it's not a threesome. 263 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: That sounds like at that point they at work. I 264 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: don't want to. 265 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool on all that shit. 266 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I am such a playing Jeane type bitch when it 267 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: comes like, the most freaky shit I'm doing is licking 268 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: the gooch. 269 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: Possibly listen. I was saying like, oh, yeah, I'm a freak, 270 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: That's what I would think. And then after the Dinny trial, 271 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: I realized that I've disapproved for real, I'm not a 272 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: vanilla sex That's what I happened. 273 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing all that extra shit. And I 274 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: know I've said this before in the show. You do 275 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: all that extra shit for a man just because you 276 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: want him to like you fall in love. They gonna 277 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: keep pushing the limit on your ass. It's never gonna 278 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: be enough. You don't need to do all that shit 279 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: to come. You really don't, like, you don't need another person. 280 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: You don't need I mean, toys are good, you know, 281 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: but you don't need all this extra shit somebody trying 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: to get women to do to have an orgasm. 283 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Not to say you have to set boundaries, you really do, 284 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: because If you don't, they can have you upside down, 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: dropping balls in your mouth off the couch. 286 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like balls, stand the purpose of balls, 287 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: but they just fucking ugly and they just be hanging 288 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: out there. Oh either, I saw somebody had like a 289 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: book bag made of two big ass nuts, white ones. 290 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: That that on Instagram yesterday, Like, what the fuck is 291 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: going on? 292 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Goodness? 293 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: So apparently twenty. 294 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Year olds today have the testosterone of seventy year olds 295 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventies. 296 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: That's so crazy. 297 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: It says masculinity is down bad. Testosterone levels have dropped 298 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: thirty percent since two thousand. The average twenty two year 299 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: old has lower tea than a seventy year old had 300 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, And it says, what the fuck 301 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: is going on? So it says ninety percent of men 302 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: are low on testosterone. This crisis also includes dropping sperm 303 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: count and lower. 304 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Ability utility. 305 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: No, it says motility. 306 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: Did he mean? 307 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 308 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all tell us anyway. The drop in 309 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: fertility rate is doubled since the nineteen fifties, the results 310 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: of a world filled with endocrine disruptors, environmental toxins, stress 311 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: seed oils, elast and underwear, et cetera. If you want 312 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: to higher tea level, here's what you need to do. 313 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Avoid seed oils. They basically alleviate your tescular temperature, lower 314 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the star gene expression, and therefore the cells which are 315 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: meant to produce testosterone become lazy and unproductive. So like 316 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: seed oils, like peanut oil, that's a seed. 317 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Oil, right, that's a nut oil. 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well nuts aren't seeds? Plant nuts? 319 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 320 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Are they seeds? 321 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I guess? I guess, so vegetable oil would be a 322 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: seed oil. 323 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: Also peanut already. No, I don't know what's the seed oil? 324 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Avocado oil? 325 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I use alphacatta oil all the time. 326 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: Oil. 327 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 328 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: So it means like the spurs ability to swim. 329 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: Okay, got it? Motility new word for the vocabulary test. 330 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: But you know what I've been talking about this because 331 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: I don't see no Adams Apple no more. Where is 332 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: the Adams Apple. It's gone. 333 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: I've seen them and they be protruding too much. 334 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't see them as much. 335 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, oh, canola oil it said on the diagram. 336 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: You can see that rats on the canola oil dyed 337 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: have lower stars. So star is important because it is 338 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: it is responsible for converting the cholesterol into testosterone. So 339 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: lower star equals lower test So canola oil, soybean oil, 340 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: so maybe men uh the best type of things they 341 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: say used beef tallow, coconut oil, grass fed butter, or 342 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: any animal fat extraversion. Olive oil. Yeah, I used you 343 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: all the time. That's usually what I use instead of butter, 344 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: And I use olive oil and grape seed oil. That 345 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: might not be good, right, but I'm not a man. 346 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: So here's that part. 347 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: But this post has a whole bunch of stuff in there, 348 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Like yeah, that that explains a lot, you know what 349 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like and maybe y'all that's why I use 350 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: that app yuka because there is a chemical in most 351 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: of our products. It's like a it's like a chemical 352 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: chemical to help things like keep the shelf life like 353 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: a h what is the word I'm looking for? 354 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: Preservative? 355 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, preservative. There you go. It's a preservative. But like 356 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: the number one thing is endocrine blocker causes fertility is 357 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: use There's so many chemicals in our food and especially 358 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: black hair products. 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: But I supposed to happen like in the Age of 360 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: Aquarius for us to get all information and also for 361 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: men to be more feminine. 362 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about that part. Why then that means 363 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: men will eventually be extinct? Because if you notice, like 364 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are having female children as opposed 365 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: to boys are, we're not even creating them all to die, 366 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: but at we stall being able to jog at night? 367 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: Girl? 368 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: What is happening? I love men, y'all, but for I mean, 369 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: if you think about it now, why ain't nothing but 370 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: a broken X the chromosome? So sometimes these nigga should 371 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: be little half broken. It's still with the X part 372 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the XT. And that's where that's 373 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: where you get the bent risks faster. 374 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: Y'all. We love men, y'all know, we love y'all. We 375 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: just like poking fun. Really speaking, I mean, why we 376 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: shitting on y'all this? We might as well do this 377 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: last one, all right? It says Chinese woman saying top 378 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: tier man is just an average woman. The bar is low, 379 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: and she went on this rat about how the average 380 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: woman is considered a top tier man in our society. 381 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: Like the things that we do and the things that 382 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: we provide these men. If they're doing that is top 383 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: tier when it's what we're doing every day. And it 384 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: went on to say that one black man said, a 385 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: black man without a criminal record makes you top tier. 386 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: And I had a woman impressed. I had furniture in 387 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: a bread a bed frame in my home. It was 388 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: like a whole conversation what she said, did you Yeah? 389 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: She was essentially saying, like, you know, like the basic 390 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: shit like cooking, cleaning, taking care of yourself, taking care 391 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: of your family, Like just that's a top taer man, 392 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: but that's basic for a woman. That is the basic, 393 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: the basis of being a woman. So essentially what she 394 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: was saying, like all these grandiose things that men think 395 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: that they're doing an accomplishing, it's actually, you know, the 396 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: average woman average. So the top tair man is the 397 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: average woman. Imagine that. 398 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: How do that make y'all feel? Man? Listening to that? 399 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: You offend it? I mean, that's what I mean. There 400 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: is some validity to that, But I mean not going 401 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: to prison like where they're from, because I don't know 402 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: a lot of the niggas that have been in prison. 403 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: I know, I mean, I know a lot of niggas 404 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: that's been in prison. But I know more than have it. 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's pretty pretty equal. I mean, 406 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: for a black man in America, it is so easy 407 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: to catch a charge, you know what I'm saying, Like 408 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: they are trying to make sure every black man has 409 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: criminal history. I remember I was dating this dude and 410 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: me and him got into real bad because he had 411 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: this charge over his head for many years, like they 412 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: knew they couldn't charge. And what resistant it was like 413 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: resisting arrest of some bullshit. They literally was given his 414 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: brother taking harassing his brother and he just was sitting 415 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: happened to be sitting in the car, in his own 416 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: car when they pulled up to the house, and like 417 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: the police officer then came to his car and started 418 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: harassing him. Right, So what happened was he ended up 419 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: slamming this cop on the ground. Right. So once I 420 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: met him and he was telling me about it, and 421 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: he was like they were calling him like for. 422 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: What is it? 423 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: Like not jury duty, not jerry duty, Like what is shit? 424 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: You gotta keep going to court just to check in basically, 425 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: like like no, like a bench not a bench warrn anyway, 426 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is, they want you to come check in 427 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: and make sure then the minute you're asked, don't show up. 428 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Then you had a bench warrn basically like a roll 429 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: call essentially. But they kept doing the shit to him 430 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: for years, and he finally pled. He pled guilty to 431 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: like a lesser charge. I'm like, and when I talked 432 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: to him, I'm like, why the fuck did you do that? 433 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: Because you were in court exactly. They tired him out. 434 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: They would, they would, you would never ever get me 435 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: to agree to some shit out and fucking do right, right, 436 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: So I'll drag that shit out for ten years. I'll 437 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: play as long as they willing to play, Like, but 438 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: you got tired and you and then you got mad 439 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: at me for pointing out you being an idiot. Yeah, 440 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: but they were. They he was He had like a 441 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: CDO license to the officer was like, yeah, I'm gonna 442 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: make sure I get these licenses, like so then he 443 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: can't work and things like that. This is the stuff 444 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: that they do to black men, right, So it is 445 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: hard for a lot of niggas not to have, Like 446 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: I know, most black men that I know, I won't 447 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: say most, I'll say it's like half and half half 448 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: of them half criminal charges. Maybe they beat it and 449 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: didn't actually end up at the charge. And then the 450 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: other half probably just some time. 451 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, well, I say, I know a lot 452 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: that had but I feel like I know more. 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: Men right now, right, yeah, they have not been But 454 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: then I listened, I just skated by a couple of times, 455 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: like I ain't never went to jail, but this was 456 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: probably should. 457 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: There are there are I forgot the number, but there 458 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: are over a thousand different statutes in America. Okay, all 459 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: of us has done, have done some shit where we 460 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: could have got fucked up about. Just because you didn't 461 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: get caught doesn't mean you're not a criminal. Okay. My 462 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: stepdaddy was talking about my ex because he went to prison, right, 463 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: and I said, man, you'll be at the job selling 464 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: that viagra. Okay, let's be very fucking clear. If those 465 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: people in your job were healthy and was healthy enough 466 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: for VIAGRAA, their doctors would have prescribed to them. So 467 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: what you're doing is drug dealing viagra pills twenty dollars 468 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: a pop at the job. 469 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: No, not right now, No, he's retired now. 470 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was doing that shit and talking about talking 471 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: about a nigga who movement work. 472 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: It's the same thing, right, you just want a smaller scale. 473 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: You're just selling pharmaceutical drugs, which actually may be worse 474 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: because one of the guys went blind that he was 475 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: selling the shit too, because the nigga wasn't healthy enough 476 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: to be taken. 477 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: By blood pressure one. 478 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so how much bitch is you fucking like? 479 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: How long you want your dick to stay hard? My guy? 480 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: You know, I can concern with people who are taking 481 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: those like and honey packs and all that stuff and 482 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: bluetooes and all that shit, and it be young guys. Yeah, 483 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: but I would be upset if I was younger. My 484 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: dick win't get hard. I'd be upset if I was older. 485 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: My dick win't get hard, but especially as a young man. 486 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: But how hard they wanted, Like, it might be getting hard, 487 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: but in their mind is not getting hard enough for 488 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what. Just just let us tell you 489 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: all of the dick is hitting. 490 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: You gotta squeeze the balls and the dick together to 491 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: try to shove it in so pussy, it's not hard enough. 492 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: My mama call it a wet rag. 493 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: I got stuff that wet rag man, and like, So 494 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: when men are angry sometimes I think that's why, like 495 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: if they're just always mad, And he was like, Dad, 496 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: why are you just got such a unpleasant disposition all 497 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: the time, Because yeah, I get it, because I'll be 498 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: a motherfucker. 499 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: Too, either it doesn't work or its little. You know. 500 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I always say, like, I just pray to God please 501 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: let my son have like it would have to be 502 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: no super big dick, just good dick, right, because I 503 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: just don't want to deal with a man with low 504 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: self esteem as my child. We'll we talk about this 505 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: week child masculinity, bitch, we talk about your niggas something more, y'all, 506 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: because we love y'all so much. 507 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: It's masculinity in crisis. 508 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: And we actually have a guest of a friend of 509 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: the show, friend in life on this episode this week, 510 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, because we didn't want to be the only 511 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: ones talking, right, and we also want to active, So 512 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: y'all be like, but just don't even know what the 513 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: hell you're talking about, but we do, like we've been 514 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: dealing with y'all whole life, literally from daddy on up. Yeah, 515 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I got a pH d in niggas. 516 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: Okay, No, every time I encounter y'all, I realize I 517 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: just don't know what the fuck is going on. So 518 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: we'll be right back, y'all. Thank y'all for coming back again. 519 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: We got a ball headed special guests. 520 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: Thank y'all for having me. Thank you for having me. 521 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: Our homeboy, mister Terry Campleton, Elsa's son, Else's son. 522 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: We love you, Terry. 523 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: Well. 524 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Me and Terry have been friends and have known each 525 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: other from elementary to fucking college. 526 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: It's correct, okay, So if. 527 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: Anybody know me, I think he might know me a 528 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: little bit. 529 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: And listen, he' my friends too. They not just friends 530 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: like I met hear him in college and we've been 531 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: friends ever since. And this is like the person I 532 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: go to anytime I need like relationship advice or I 533 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: want to talk to a get a male perspective. I 534 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: always called Terry to see what he gotta say. He 535 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: always gives me some solid advice. 536 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: I appreciate, y'all. 537 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: Now, do I take it? 538 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: Maybe not? 539 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: So you want to follow up on a previous conversation 540 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: we had, right we were talking about it really wasn't 541 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: about masculinity, but somehow the conversation went in that direction, right, 542 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: talking about you know, women and not even about gender 543 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: roles just in life, like our positions, what we should 544 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: be doing. But today I actually want to talk about like, 545 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: do you think masculinity is actually in crisis mode? 546 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: But what you mean by crisis though? 547 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: Is it under attack? 548 00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: Is it just? 549 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Is it just evolving? 550 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Right? 551 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: I think women can't really define what masculinity is, right. 552 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: I think I believe men should define amongst their peers 553 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: what being a man is and what masculinity actually is. 554 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: Right. But I do think it may be evolving a 555 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: little bit, because you know. 556 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Women volving is that a word? 557 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: Whatever, Something's happening, right, So something is definitely happening. So 558 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's just men, you know, having 559 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: more outward emotion nowadays, or sasy opinions sassy friends that 560 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: the men and a man expresses emotion. We calling it 561 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: a sassy because really, I don't want no nigga stranger 562 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: on the internet talk crazy to me in the comments section. 563 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: You're a sassy, My man would never you know what 564 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 565 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't really like niggas that talk. 566 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: I told you at the other day. Oh, like damn, 567 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: but nigga can't talk. 568 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: You see my pinion? 569 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: You know he means business. That's the type of and 570 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: men I be liking like I like men who make 571 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: jokes though I like funny you. 572 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: Have a thought to tell a joke? 573 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: He do, but not too much telling joke and goes 574 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: to tell and look out for me you thiggas right 575 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: up my telling joke, but don't. 576 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: Talk to do it, but dance that I be playing 577 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: right To answer your question, I don't think masculinity is 578 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: in a crisis, but it isn't like in the red area. 579 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We got to get back 580 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: to the green area. 581 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: And when you say red, what you mean. 582 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: Like meaning your fingers should be on the panic button 583 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: because you know, men are becoming a little more publicly emotional. 584 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: You know a lot of men don't have no foresight. 585 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: You just see men crashing out every day on the internet. 586 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And we need to get 587 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: back to being men as a whole, being quiet, right, Well, 588 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't necessarily say being quiet, So what's. 589 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: Wrong with being publicly emotional? Though? 590 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: That's like we not like that. 591 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: You know, you got a lot of men who are 592 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: arguing with women publicly. You know some of them are 593 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: actually physically hitting women, you know what I'm saying, And uh, yeah, 594 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: we gotta get back to being men. And then you 595 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: hear a lot of sisters say, you know, black men 596 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: don't protect black women. I disagree with that. I think 597 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: we do protect black women. It's just you know, Uh, 598 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: people just gotta understand when you out, you got to 599 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: be mindful of that because you can be harmed trying 600 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: to protect somebody that you don't know. 601 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: And if it ain't your sister, your mama correct, right right, 602 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so. 603 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: So wait, if you see a woman outside getting beat, 604 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: you not go You're gonna film it or you gonna 605 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: try to stop it. 606 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm definitely not filming it. I'm definitely not filming it. 607 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: But first of all, somebody can lose their life and 608 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: you filming somebody, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but 609 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: I would definitely, uh be mindful of the situation because 610 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: you gotta understand situational awareness. If you see a man 611 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: and a woman arguing and he start, y'all hear that. 612 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: Just burnt on the mic. Listen, we talk about masculine energy. 613 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: You ain't got to be a man today, okay, And 614 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: it's straight acid because I ain't ship. 615 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: Listen. But like I was saying, if you see a 616 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: man and a woman arguing outside across the street and 617 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: you're a man, don't just go over there and just 618 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: try to be, you know, superhero, because you can lose 619 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: your life too. I've seen it. It's best to just 620 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 4: call the police from where you at. 621 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: Niggas is calling the police. 622 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: Call the police from where you're at. Listen, because listen, 623 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: as a man, you got to make it home to 624 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 4: your family, your mama or your woman, and your kids 625 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: a home after that may be, you know, so you 626 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: definitely got to think about that before you just go running. 627 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: You don't know, men know the level. 628 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Other men will take it to, right, Like women really 629 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: really don't realize when their life in danger sometimes, and 630 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: I think men always like. 631 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: A woman would write a woman would put a man's 632 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: life in dan in danger unknowingly. 633 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: Yes the facts and I can't tell you that would 634 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: mind my business. If I saw a man being a 635 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: woman like I don't know that I would and help her. 636 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: Just call the police from across the street, Call the police. 637 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 638 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm pop and the something like call. 639 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: The police if that's not your loved one or your sister, 640 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: your mom. 641 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: We can't be like that. 642 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: Yess what I'm saying. You can lose your life trying 643 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: to save somebody you don't know, and now your mama crying, 644 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: your kids crying, your daddy crying, your aunties and everybody crying. 645 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: And he go to jail. And what you think she's 646 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: gonna be doing back when he get out, if he 647 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: get out, right, she's gonna be answering all them calls, 648 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: sending that money and you did you dead? 649 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: That could happen with a family member too. You know 650 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You could stop your family member from 651 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: getting beat up by they loved the one, by their 652 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: boyfriend girlfriend, and it would be the same, the same thing. 653 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: But you're more inclined to intervene in that situation. 654 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: Well that's another thing, right, Like I have a daughter 655 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: and uh, she's only three, but if she when she 656 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: gets older, right, let's just say she got a boyfriend 657 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: and they get into it, I would tell her before 658 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: you call me. You need to think about that because 659 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: when I get inlved, when you involve me, that can 660 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: go either way. He's a man, like I'm a man. 661 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: So if I come over there trying to get some 662 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: law in order that can go in his way or 663 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: I can go on my way. But you got to 664 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: think about that because I know how I'm thinking, I'm 665 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: coming home and he probably thinking like you know, So 666 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: before anything of that that happens, just leave. 667 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: But see when you say that, it makes them scared 668 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: to call you, and then maybe they shouldn't, you know, 669 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: because like a woman trying to protect trying to protect 670 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: you and not protecting herself. 671 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 4: And I hear you. If you are a family member 672 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: of mine and you are dating a man and y'all 673 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: happen to get into a verbal dispute that could possibly 674 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: get physical. Right, however, that may be leave before you 675 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: get the other men in your family involved, because again 676 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: that can go either way. When your uncle get there, 677 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 4: your brother, or your daddy get there, he a man 678 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: like you, a man, it might not go in your 679 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: daddy favor. You might to whoop your daddy. 680 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 2: Dad. 681 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: You ain't your daddy is going to protect their doors. 682 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 4: They come in with these strapped. 683 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: Story The one time I got hit by a man, right, 684 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: I was on some bullshit and he can't control his 685 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: emotion after he'd not been on a lot of bullshit. 686 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: Now, all of a sudden, like my bullshit bigger than 687 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: your bullshit. 688 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: You want to hit me. And then he braced my 689 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: cell phones and now and I finally like call my 690 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: like literally before he broke the cell phone, like be 691 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: driving down the street. You're like, I'm gonna put you 692 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: in the fucking swamp. 693 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: This is what he's telling me. 694 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: I called my daddy. I'm like screaming on the phone 695 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: like this nigga says he's gonna kill me for real. 696 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: So finally got me to the swamp. He didn't kill me. 697 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 2: He took you to the swamp. 698 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: He took me to the projects by the swamp. Guy, 699 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: you know the day gyard there in the back of 700 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: the graveyard is like water like waste, like like wetlands 701 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: and marsh and ship like that. Yeah, he told me 702 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: he was about to drop me off there. 703 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: So the best thing for your daddy to do in 704 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: that situation. 705 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I say, my daddy. When I finally called my daddy, once, 706 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: I cal him down, like daddy, can't you now come 707 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: pick me up because I've since been left where I'm at. 708 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: This is like when he came and got me, he said, 709 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: either you're gonna stay or you're gonna leave because if 710 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: I get involved, somebody gonna get hurt. This was never 711 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: with that person. 712 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 4: In fact, any. 713 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Nigga who drop you off at the swamp, you definitely 714 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: need to where's that the in the project a graveyard? Yeah, 715 00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: you need to go. 716 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 4: Y'all just gotta be a be mindful of certain situations 717 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 4: because before I get you, if everybody know a man 718 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: who is somewhat of an abuser, even if he's physically abusing, 719 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: or if you verbal warning is, you know, you gotta 720 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: be able to peep that way before it happened. He 721 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: ain't just gonna come over and start smacking. 722 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: You know. 723 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 4: He usually be like A I'm not abused, by the way, 724 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: but he usually be like A all right, keep playing 725 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: with me. I'm gonna show you better. I can tell you. 726 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: You see it all the time. I'm telling you I 727 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: ain't never hit no woman, And that's on record. I 728 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: never hit no woman. But I'm telling you that's what 729 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: it be. And then people ignore those signs and then 730 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 4: next thing. 731 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: You know. 732 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: What, no no with me. 733 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: Like, I'll give y'all what I think masculinely is. I 734 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: think uh, a masculine man is calculated he's calm under pressure. 735 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: He's he's a decision maker. He's not and decisive, he's 736 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: very decisive. Now, all those characteristics could also be associated 737 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: with women, right, So I think to be a well 738 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: rounded human you need to embody booth because who wants 739 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: a super indecisive woman? You know what I'm saying? Who 740 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: wants a woman who can't ever make a decision? On 741 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: the food conversation, like how we supposedly never know we 742 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: want to eat. We always know we want to eat. 743 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: We just don't know how much y'all can afford. Okay, 744 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: we just don't know where we can eat at, but 745 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: we always know where you know, me and my homegirls 746 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: like to eat that we always know who you want 747 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: to eat. 748 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't always know where I want to eat. Sometimes 749 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: I want you to you know you pick you. 750 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 4: Pick it well? If you if you if I know 751 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 4: you like seafood, We're gonna go to a seafoodstaurant. You 752 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 4: might not know what you want when you get there, 753 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: but I know where we're going. You know what I'm says, 754 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: I know whe we're going steakhouse. But to me, masculine 755 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: that he means man. So many things they don't have 756 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: anything to do with being like tough and hard and 757 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 4: nothing like that. It's just a man who can, you know, 758 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 4: regulate his emotions, one who can think under pressure, and 759 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 4: one who could be vulnerable because being being vulnerable takes strength. 760 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 4: A lot of men don't realize that, like they think, oh, 761 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 4: you know, to be all stoic and strong. No, that's 762 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: not masculated to me. 763 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of men associate vulnerability with weakness. 764 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's all about it's all really, it's really 765 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: about being able to articulate yourself so the other person 766 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 4: understands you, and controlling your emotions. That's very masculine to me. 767 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. But strength don't have nothing to do with masculinity 768 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: at all. 769 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 4: Physical strength, no, no, no, But to be vulnerable takes strength, 770 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 4: internal strength. 771 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: Like mental strength. 772 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 4: Yeah that too. 773 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah hmm, I don't know because I need. 774 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen right, open his jar listen, Yeah, he can 775 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: open the jaw. That's just being strong. I don't have 776 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 4: nothing to do with being masculinity. Being masculine. You got 777 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: a guy, You can have a guy that's brawlic go 778 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 4: to the gym every day, super strong, but very feminine. 779 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you see what I'm saying. So, yeah, they 780 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: don't have anything to do with strength. 781 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: Why first of all, listen, this is not masculine. Why 782 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: your whole thigh out? The hoochi daddy short, I love him? 783 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: What do you want that? Yes, if you're not playing soccer, 784 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 1: he would not want to see you with your whole 785 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: thigh out. 786 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: No, I like it because I like you're eating the legs, 787 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 2: them strong legs like nice. 788 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 4: I like. 789 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: I do like legs. Now, you just got like a 790 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: little little sperm tadpole body. 791 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 2: But I don't buy the neighborhood no fat ass though, 792 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 2: Like I don't want his ass to be fat as mine. 793 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: But I like the big legs and a nice bath. 794 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: So I got a question. Is society striven men of 795 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: purpose or liberating them? Oh? 796 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 4: Man, that's a great question. Yeah. Yeah, because you got 797 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 4: a lot of women out here telling men how to 798 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: be men, you know, and social media isn't making it 799 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 4: any better. So we have to get back to being men. 800 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If you are, and a 801 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: lot of women always say that, oh, bring back the men. 802 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 4: You're right, we got to bring back the men. 803 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: But in order to bring back that mean when we 804 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: say that, what do you what do I know? We 805 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: mean when we say that men here, what men here is? 806 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 4: Ain't no men out here good enough like our granddaddy's. 807 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 4: That's what they hear as a whole, that's what they hear. 808 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: But the men out here, we just have to bring 809 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: them back as a whole, bring back strong you know, 810 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 4: men who can think, you know. But in order to 811 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 4: bring back masculine, strong men who can lead, we have 812 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 4: to bring back the respectable, respectable women. 813 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: So you wait a minute now, So you don't think 814 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 2: respectable women exist, No. 815 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 4: They're out here, it's just at a minimal they're out here. 816 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of disrespectful women out here that Oh. 817 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, you said not respectable. You mean disrespectful because respectable. 818 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: That just because you are disrespectful doesn't mean you're not respectable, right, 819 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like you are you mean like 820 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: women like women respect men. 821 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: Who respect me? Correct, that's what we have. In order 822 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: for us to get back to that, we have to 823 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 4: bring back the women who respect men. We have to 824 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 4: bring that back. 825 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: So why do you think that the that there's a 826 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: lack of respect for men? Yeah, like, collectively why do 827 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: you You obviously feel like there's you said that there's 828 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of women out here who actually respect men. 829 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: But why why do you feel like that? And do 830 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: you get disrespected by women in your day to day life? 831 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: No, no, I do not, And I feel like, well, 832 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: this is really a feeling, you know, in my line 833 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 4: of my In my line of work, I talk to 834 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 4: men every day every day. 835 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so he's like your barber's favorite barber. 836 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is your new barber right here? Yeah, 837 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 2: he in Colombia. 838 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 4: Okay, new barber right here. 839 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all more committed to like he. 840 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 4: I don't even my barber. I don't know that negative 841 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 4: be committed to the barber. No, I ain't gonna lie 842 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 4: committed to barber. 843 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: But go ahead. What are he's saying? 844 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: In my line of work, I talked to about two 845 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 4: thousand men a year, maybe more, and they all say 846 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: the same thing. They all say the same thing. Respect 847 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: is number one. I've said it. Respect is number one. 848 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 4: Once we lost that, you lose the man. 849 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: Well why do you think the women have lost respect? Though? 850 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 4: You know, because how the world to shape is telling 851 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 4: women who to tell men how to be men? We 852 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 4: gotta get in order for the man to come back. 853 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 4: We got to in order to bring back the real 854 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: strong men that we used to be, we also have 855 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 4: to bring back the women who respects those men. 856 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: I feel like those men were providers though they were 857 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: and they still are here, but it's at a minimum. Yeah, 858 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, Like women minimal respect is because 859 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 2: there's minimal providers. 860 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 4: All right. See, the thing is about provision. I hope 861 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 4: y'all don't think provision is just like money. No, we don't, Okay, cool, 862 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 4: So in my opinion, providing or provision is a man 863 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 4: who can lead you be a life manager, you know 864 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like a man who can come in 865 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 4: and he can be considered of how you feel and 866 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 4: and for the batterment of the house. You see what 867 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 868 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: So where they're doing that though. 869 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm listen, they will. 870 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: Men are doing it. Men will do it. I'm telling 871 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 4: you in order for if you want a man too, 872 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 4: and I hate to get him a man woman thing, 873 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 4: but if you want as why. 874 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: Brought you here? 875 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 4: All right? If you want to know, I'm like the 876 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 4: man versus woman. That's why you hear what's The thing 877 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: is right, if you want a man to move or 878 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 4: perform the way you want him to, you gotta speak 879 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: that at him. I'm telling you he will. 880 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 2: Do it sometimes because listen, listen. No, let's think about 881 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: some of the guys that we know personally. I can 882 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 2: think of one of your friends, okay, and he ain't 883 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: ship and he lying, he got a woman at the house, 884 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 2: a pregnant woman at the house, and always in different 885 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: bitches in box and d ms and he's just a 886 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: straight sociopath liar. And that's your homeboy. I'm sure that 887 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: woman over there is speaking all kind of life to 888 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 2: him and he's still outside of doing the word. 889 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: That's this part, right. Remember on another episode when I 890 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: said that there are things that I discovered about myself, 891 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: like like not being able to be as thoughtful as 892 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: other people are. But another is I understand that most 893 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: men like one of their major love languages is words 894 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: of affirmation. But for me now I give men affirmations off. 895 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: I affirm men all the time. Right, But when I'm 896 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: like I have struggled with a partner right who I 897 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: have felt like I've been mistreated by and different things, 898 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: and then they would start doing well, right, I can't 899 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: get into the position of like. 900 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: Affirming them. 901 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't because you've broken me. I'm saying, I can't. 902 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't even I don't know how do. 903 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: I affirm ye? 904 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 4: Like, how do I? Now you don't have You don't 905 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: have the capability to affirm him at that moment, you 906 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So you need to articulate how 907 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: you what's going on with you so he can understand. 908 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 4: It's just all about understanding communication. That's it. 909 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know that's how you that's that is 910 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: definitely how you get men to do well right. That 911 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: women are the muse right, So, like I was telling 912 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 1: Thomas Early, like, no woman, no black women, right, because 913 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: that's who we are. We are not asking men to 914 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: have everything together together today. We are asking you to 915 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: let me see the progress. I need you to actively 916 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: be working towards some giving me the soft life. And 917 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, like I always say, there's two type 918 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: of men, Like there's either a man who feeds his 919 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: ego through how many women he can have sex with, 920 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: and then there's the man who feeds his ego by 921 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: how many people he can take care of. And That's 922 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: that's the man I like. 923 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 2: Is that the only two types. 924 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 4: See, the thing is about that second guy that you 925 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 4: just described. While that man is there making sure everybody 926 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 4: around him is straight, the kids, the woman, the in laws, 927 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 4: his mother, he filling up everybody else. Cut he has 928 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 4: moments where he gets weak, you know, and feel a 929 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 4: little inadequate, you know what I'm saying. So it has 930 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 4: to be like a reservoir. Like while he's filling everybody 931 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: else up, you got to be filling him up, you know, 932 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 4: because when he starts to lack in certain areas, you know, 933 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 4: I got to help that brother lift him up. 934 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 2: You know. 935 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: That's why, like you said, men like words of affirmation. 936 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: Tell him how great of a man he is. Hey, babe, 937 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 4: you know I think you are a great guy. Just 938 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: say it, put it right in the car. And what 939 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 4: if he has subject if. 940 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 3: He hasn't been being a great guy, That's what I'm saying. 941 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: So now you try, Adam, what's wrong with him? 942 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 4: That's what's going on. But don't sound like his mother, 943 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying. 944 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 2: So Okay, how do you do that? 945 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 4: Get it out, Get it out, Get it out, get 946 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 4: it out, you know, be a woman. You are a woman. 947 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 4: But you know that's what the femininity, that's what the 948 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 4: femininity is. 949 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: It's the second time something about me being a woman today. 950 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 4: Be a woman? Like, come on, man, what does that mean? 951 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 4: I can't tell y'all what a woman as y'all are 952 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 4: to you? Lester being meaning, be assertive and say it 953 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 4: with your chest. What's going on? How you feel? That's 954 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 4: all I'm saying. 955 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but soft though, right, soft and little tone. 956 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 4: Listen, you don't have to coddle the man. You know 957 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I can tell you sometimes sneak that 958 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 4: man grown you grown, Just speak. You don't curse or 959 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 4: yell at him because you're not going to get no response. 960 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 1: You've had a conversation with somebody and you just feel 961 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: like they intentionally disagree or intentionally not to understand. Oh yes, 962 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: that's when I start yelling. I do start off regular, yes, 963 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: but then when you when I feel like I didn't 964 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: repeat the same thing multiple times. 965 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 2: And someone's committed to misunderstanding. 966 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: It frustrated And now I'm screaming because I feel like 967 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: you're a hell bent on misunderstands. See, some people are 968 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: not taking accountability right and I am in a place 969 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: now to where I'm no longer like really trying to 970 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: Like we speak very broadly on this podcast, but in 971 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: my personal life, I am no longer trying to force 972 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: people to take accountability, right. That is not my job, right, 973 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want nobody trying to force me to 974 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: take accountability for shit either. We should all take accountability 975 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: right and do the things that we know people expect 976 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: of us, right, you know, especially in a relationship, you 977 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: know people have expectations, your partner has expectations. 978 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 4: It's my first time I ever hearing women say that 979 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 4: accountability we should take it. 980 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: You've never heard a woman say she should take accountabilities. 981 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: Terry, you lying. 982 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 4: Don't get out here, y'all boy, Accountability like the matrix 983 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: man like I. 984 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: Accountability look like to you. 985 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 4: Own your ship. Listen, if we're together, it's all about correction. 986 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 4: You can correct me, adjust me, and I can do 987 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 4: the same for you. It's about respect, own your ship, 988 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 4: and we're gonna be all right. 989 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 2: So you feel like women never own their ship. 990 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I've never been with a man 991 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 1: who actually like took accountability that I feel. 992 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 4: That was a protest to the protests you know what 993 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying because I let me tell you. She asked 994 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 4: about the women. He said, this. 995 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: Is that is something that I'm working on, right, not 996 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: allowing other peoples, uh what they're doing and their emotions 997 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: to affect mine, right or like trying to stay even killed. 998 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: So if I'm asking, if I I feel like I've 999 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: always been, uh, men want you to take accountability for 1000 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: your bullshit. But they they will never, like even with cheating, right, 1001 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: you can ask them a thousand times, Hey, you already know, right, 1002 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: did you do this? You know this girl? No? No, 1003 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: they line in line, line till the bitch come knock 1004 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: on the door, so. 1005 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 2: You never and the bitch standing right there she ay, 1006 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 2: I that's not even a real bitch right there, close 1007 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: the door. 1008 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: They will never take accountability, so they I feel like collectively, 1009 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: men are requiring something from women that they never offer. 1010 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 4: I strongly disagree. I strongly disagree. I had a conversation 1011 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 4: with one of my one of my boys the other 1012 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 4: day about this, and we both said the same thing, like, 1013 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 4: I've noticed that men actually have been taken full accountability 1014 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 4: for their actions lately, even with men men each other 1015 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 4: all together, like men hold men accountable when you do 1016 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 4: some goofy shit, men be like, hey, yeah, you're right, brauh. 1017 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 4: You know sometimes when you when you're. 1018 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: Talking to one of your so why you don't hold 1019 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: that guy accountable that I mentioned? 1020 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: They don't hold each other accountable, not for. 1021 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: Real, all right? You know what what I will say, 1022 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: Like in the nineties, black men could be bad fathers 1023 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: and they will still have homeboys. But I feel like, 1024 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 2: now you niggas ain't fucking with you if you don't 1025 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 2: take care of your kids. That is something y'all do 1026 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 2: hold each other accountable about. And I think it's because 1027 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: we grew up without absentee parents. A lot of us 1028 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 2: grew up with an absentee father. So Black men are 1029 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 2: more holding each other more accountable for that. So I 1030 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 2: will agree there. But outside of that, when it comes 1031 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: to cheating and ship like that, y'all don't hold each 1032 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 2: other accountable for that. 1033 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: Y'all just get warning sitting man down and say, hey, 1034 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: you sucking up. 1035 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm around the men. I'm telling you 1036 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 4: what what we're saying your mom, I'm around them. Listen. 1037 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 4: If you got a dude who's your home boy m hm, 1038 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 4: and he's cheating like. 1039 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 2: You said, right, I'm about to go ahead. I'm listening. 1040 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 4: If he know your woman, right, he liked her like 1041 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 4: I like her for you. She's a sweet woman. 1042 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 2: Trust me. 1043 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 4: He's going to be like, hey, bro, you're fucking up something. 1044 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 4: You're sucking up a good thing. You're fucking up. But 1045 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 4: a lot of niggas have reasoning like, man, I'm doing 1046 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 4: it because of this. She don't give me no attention now. 1047 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 2: But you're not gonna not funck with a nigga because 1048 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 2: he a cheater. You're not gonna stop being cool with you. 1049 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 4: What will you stop sucking with your home girl? 1050 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 2: Because she absolutely My friends do not need we're cheating 1051 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 2: with you, man, please absolutely. First of all, I could 1052 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 2: be appalled to hear that my friend is cheating. 1053 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 3: Are you talking about that? 1054 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 4: It's crazy with camera. 1055 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: Black women don't. 1056 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 4: Cheat, alrighty, brothers don't cheat either, But no, all jo side, 1057 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: listen back to accountability, own your ship and we're gonna 1058 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 4: be all right. What's it? 1059 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 2: Everybody? That's it? Just on your stick with question. 1060 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you from a man's response on your 1061 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 4: ship and we'll be alright. Same thing for the brothers. 1062 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 4: Men do hold men accountable. 1063 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: So okay, if maline, if masculinity is not in crisis, 1064 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: it obviously we said, it's like it's changing, right. 1065 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: More. 1066 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: And then also you have more men like having uh, 1067 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: emotional intelligence? But Tammy, do you think women are actually 1068 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: ready for emotional intelligent men? Why do you know what 1069 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: I want? 1070 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: I don't think oftentimes, no, women are not ready. But 1071 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: that's because they're not used to it. You know, they're 1072 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 2: not used to it. I give you something, a little 1073 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 2: something for that, all right. And then we're quick to 1074 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 2: call them sassy when they say when they are displayed emotionally. 1075 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: Intelligent, you sassy. That's what random men. That's not for 1076 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: like men in my day to day life. A random 1077 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: man on the internet rambling like somebody, some men have 1078 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: said some of the worst things to me on the 1079 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: internet out I could be your sister, your mom. I'm like, 1080 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: what if somebody else was disrespect somebody else is disrespecting 1081 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: your mom the same way you're doing me right now 1082 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 1: for no reason, just like unwarranted unsolicited disrespect. Right. Yeah, 1083 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: but that is a small sample size of how these 1084 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: men are probably in their real lives. 1085 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 2: Not emotional intelligence though, that's just disrespectful ass. 1086 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: A safety by sassy like women pop off quick. I 1087 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: don't expect men to just be popping off quick. You 1088 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying and writing me a paragraph and 1089 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: they don't know me, Like, what's happening? Go chop wood 1090 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: that one, nigga, like we talk whoever he is. We 1091 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: need him on the show because I just want to 1092 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: touch him. That man with that good here looking like. 1093 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 2: You can't eating fruit and chopping. 1094 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: Wood, wood biting in the watermelons, And. 1095 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 2: That's very nice. 1096 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 4: Go chop wood, chopping wood every. 1097 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: Day, niggas. I like men who chopoda. 1098 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if we are ready for 1099 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,720 Speaker 2: a truly and emotional, emotionally intelligent man. But that's because 1100 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: half the time we not. 1101 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 4: I can response to that. 1102 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: Go ahead, let's hear it. 1103 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 4: If a woman have never experienced that, meaning forget a relationship, 1104 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 4: if she never see her father be an emotionally intelligent 1105 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 4: man to her mother, or an uncle to an aunt, 1106 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: or maybe a boyfriend to assist it. She says she 1107 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 4: wants that, but when she gets it, it can be 1108 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 4: a little bit too much. You know, Oh damn, this 1109 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 4: man really communicates, you know, he thinks he processes his thoughts, 1110 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 4: he cycles through all the emotions, you know, and he's 1111 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 4: he's coming to me. He's shooting from the hip like boom. 1112 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 4: That could be too much for somebody that never had that, 1113 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You ask for that, but 1114 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 4: you never had another man to use as a as 1115 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 4: a measure into as what that is. When you get it, 1116 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 4: it's like WHOA, this is too much, you know, so 1117 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 4: they might deflect or run like I don't want to 1118 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 4: talk about it right now. It could be too much. 1119 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 4: It could be overwhelming, you know what I'm saying. 1120 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I do. As soon as 1121 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: I find like I'm talking to a man who has 1122 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 2: a very strong emotional intelligence, I use chat GPT to 1123 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 2: give me sigres conversation. Listen, I'll write down my no, listen, 1124 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 2: I'll write down my feelings and then I'll go to 1125 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 2: chat GPT and they'll say, please write this more eloquently 1126 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 2: for me. 1127 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: But intelligence, that's not no. 1128 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like scared of it. 1129 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 4: No, I'm not. 1130 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: I am sad at nothing, but I'm just no. I 1131 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: know what to say, but sometimes I can't get the 1132 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 2: words out correctly. So chat gt wrong way so recently, 1133 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 2: So chat GPT don't help y'all express better. I used 1134 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 2: at all the time. 1135 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: Don't because if chaty, if chat GPT, if chat GPT 1136 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: is formulating your. 1137 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: Thoughts, it's not formulated my thoughts, it's just displaying it 1138 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: a better in a better way. 1139 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: It's fanasy because when you gotta have an actual conversation 1140 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: with this person. 1141 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: My thoughts, it's just said better. 1142 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: So my home girl, she rad some ship her baby 1143 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: daddy sent her, and I said, put what you said 1144 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: to him and chat GPT and see what it gives you. 1145 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: It gave his exact text message, so. 1146 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: He just had chat GPT respond for him. Yes, that's 1147 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 2: not what I did. 1148 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: Put her text in there and they gave it chat GPT. 1149 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: That's different. That's that's different. I'll I'll write my own 1150 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 2: message and then I'll say make this we gonna added 1151 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: that part up. 1152 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: We don't want niggas. 1153 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: Niggas already use it to communicate. 1154 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 4: No, No, I haven't. I never. I don't even have 1155 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 4: that apple my phone. 1156 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people do. You'll be surprised how many 1157 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 2: people are using the conversation to communicate their thoughts. More eloquently. Yes, 1158 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 2: that's I. 1159 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Think that where we're definitely digressing as a people. And 1160 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: if we're gonna use AI and in that. 1161 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Way and they use an AI for. 1162 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Everything, Yeah, but not to have day to day conversations. 1163 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm not using AI, like, not to formulate a response 1164 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: to somebody saying something to me. I'm not even to 1165 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: say it different like I'm gonna say it how it's 1166 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 1: gonna be authentically me and my thoughts and my words 1167 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: when I see it too, you know what I'm saying, 1168 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Because I feel like then you still gotta have a 1169 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: real conversation with this person. So it can sound eloquent 1170 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: via text, but then you having a conversation with them, 1171 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, who the fuck is that? 1172 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: It's not? I don't think I have to show you 1173 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 2: an example. Yeah, I can see it. So it's not 1174 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 2: like they're changing. It's the same sentence. It's just worded 1175 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,959 Speaker 2: in a way that it could be understanding better, maybe 1176 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: my the way I'm saying it. Like, so yeah, like 1177 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 2: we are flawed in communication, you know that, right? Even 1178 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 2: just on this part cast today, there's things that we've 1179 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 2: said that may be misconstrued between just the three of 1180 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 2: us and sometimes using AI will help it come across better. 1181 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. 1182 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1183 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 2: I have you have you had a I'll sell you 1184 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 2: an example. I did it last night. Yeah. 1185 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 4: I try to talk and text. How I read? You 1186 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You know how I read? 1187 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: Oh? Then, boy about the Obama's in it? 1188 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 3: That's about to blow us up? 1189 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 2: You talk like that, Gosh, I definitely do that. 1190 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 4: Slow down. 1191 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio. 1192 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: And so are you in therapy? 1193 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am? I am. You said that with confidence? 1194 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Yes, in therapy? 1195 01:01:55,080 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: Uh, consistently about nine months nine and strong. 1196 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: So what was the trigger to go to therapy? Because 1197 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I feel like that is probably what we women work 1198 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: on their little things, right. We are working on ourselves 1199 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: right every day, Like you know what I'm saying. I 1200 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: reflect first thing in the morning, I think about the 1201 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 1: previous day, you know what I'm saying, and then what 1202 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: I could have done different if I had a situation 1203 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: like most of my days have been stupid nowadays. But 1204 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, I just do a lot of and inshrooms. Also, 1205 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: have you having a lot of introspective, introspective thinking, you know, 1206 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: talking to yourself, having a lot of conference calls with yourself, 1207 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: picking through your own mental health. So what trigger were 1208 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you to go to therapy? 1209 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 4: What triggered me to go to therapy was me being 1210 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 4: uncertain about me being the greatest version of myself for me. 1211 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 4: You know, if I can't be that for me, I 1212 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 4: can't be that for nobody else. So that was my trigger. 1213 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 2: How has it been going great? 1214 01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Great? I'm learning to express myself freely without wondering how 1215 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 4: that may make the person feel. One thing I learned 1216 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 4: in therapy is to never make other people problems become 1217 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 4: your problem. Yes, because what do you mean me myself? 1218 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 4: My therapist said that I can be a people pleaser, right, 1219 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes I can openly extend myself for others. And you know, 1220 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 4: even though I want to say no to somebody, I'd 1221 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 4: be like, okay, y'all, I do it because I don't 1222 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 4: want to. 1223 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: Disappoint today with this podcast. 1224 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 4: I didn't think when she called me that was just 1225 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 4: a let me think, okay. 1226 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Do so wait when I came over your house like 1227 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 2: two weeks ago and I ate that food that your 1228 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 2: aunt made, was you just being a people pleaser, because 1229 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 2: you could. 1230 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Have kept that meal. 1231 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: No. 1232 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 2: What I mean by that nobody food is your aunt 1233 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 2: cook today? 1234 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 4: I got two aunts that live in the city, and uh, 1235 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 4: one cook all the time. One don't cook as much. 1236 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 4: My cousin Candice do all the cooking over there at 1237 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 4: the house. But who's that saying? What I mean by 1238 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 4: that is, you know, let's say, if you say, hey, 1239 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 4: can you take me to the airport? 1240 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 2: You love? 1241 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: You take them to the airport. 1242 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 4: I know I want to say no. I want to 1243 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 4: say no, I don't want to do it, and I'll 1244 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 4: just be like, all right, I got you, we'll time 1245 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 4: if I leave. But really I really just want to 1246 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 4: say no. But I'll say yeah just cause you call me, 1247 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 4: and I just make sure I get you there or die. 1248 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 4: But now I'm learning I can say no and not 1249 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 4: feel bad about it. 1250 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: You know what, So you do you think you were 1251 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: saying yeah because you expect something from that person, like 1252 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: some type of some gratification at some point, like no, 1253 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Why why you can't say no? 1254 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 4: I just used to like to be there for people, 1255 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 4: you know. I just used to like to be there 1256 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 4: for people, to the point where anyway it would inconvenience me. 1257 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 4: You know, I gotta get it. I gotta get done 1258 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 4: by the airport by two, knowing I gotta do it, 1259 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So now I'm learning, man, Yeah, 1260 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm learning now that I could say no confidently and 1261 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 4: not care about it. 1262 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to learn, like, because you will deplete 1263 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 2: yourself that way. No, it was a complete sentence, no, 1264 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 2: no period. You don't have to explain. Take good years. 1265 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: They songs like they just pop up like you know 1266 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yeah, so that's why you're calling me. 1267 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,919 Speaker 1: But I'm a surprise you today, bitch. 1268 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it could be different things other than just 1269 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 4: asking for a favor. It could be like, hey, I'm 1270 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 4: having a housewarming. I remember one week somebody invited me 1271 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 4: to a housewarman, a baby shower, a kickback, A promoter 1272 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 4: friend of mine had an event, and then someone asked 1273 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 4: me to help them move all in one week. And 1274 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 4: unfortunately for myself, I tried to make each one of 1275 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 4: those things. Damn they kill myself. 1276 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 2: Did you go to all of them? 1277 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 4: Nope? But I felt bad because I didn't make it 1278 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: to one of it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1279 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, man, I ever 1280 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,479 Speaker 4: had that problem. 1281 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't think I ever had that problem. I just 1282 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 2: I'll just say no. 1283 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 4: With love, I do it now. Yeah, I'm learning that 1284 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 4: I can't. I can't make it. 1285 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 2: Call me for money and see what happened. Know, with love, 1286 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,959 Speaker 2: I'll tell people like you know, especially if someone's close 1287 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 2: and I noticed urging him black, exhaust every other option 1288 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 2: and then circle back. 1289 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 4: That's cruel, terrible, that is cruel. 1290 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 2: But you'll get it. You'll get it. I'll give it 1291 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 2: to you, but you need to try every other possible 1292 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: avenue first. You know, the fuck. 1293 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: I would have played a quick game right when we 1294 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: get up out of here. So, uh, it's just a 1295 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: couple of questions and you have to tell us if 1296 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: it's massiw or not. Basically wearing pink. 1297 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 4: That's masculine, man. I love pink, pink, soft, pink, mauve, 1298 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 4: you know anything on that color color. 1299 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 2: Spectrum, you feel like, I don't think clothes, I mean 1300 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 2: like a color there's like no limitation. Yeah, but I 1301 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: don't know if I put my baby boy in pink 1302 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 2: though now. 1303 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 4: I won't put a baby, a baby boy in pink 1304 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 4: at that, not at that point, not until later. 1305 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 2: I wonder why if that's something else pink out there 1306 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 2: though the baby boy. You don't really see a lot 1307 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 2: of baby boy pink. You don't know why would we 1308 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 2: do it or not as a baby. 1309 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Unpack that part. 1310 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 2: Crying during a. 1311 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 4: Movie that's masculine. I have cried during the movie. I 1312 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 4: made a Facebook movie. You know what movie I cried on. 1313 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 4: I don't care how hard you think you is. This 1314 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 4: movie will make you cry. A time to killed with 1315 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 4: Samuel el jam Yeah, one those two white boys raped 1316 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:04,439 Speaker 4: his daughter. 1317 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, man, listen. 1318 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 4: Every time. I can't watch that movie all the way through. Boy. 1319 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 2: I remember I went to see Your Best Man Holiday 1320 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 2: with my ex boyfriend and we was in a movie theater. 1321 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 2: He kept on looking like you're straight. 1322 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like he was hard to downstairs at the sky. 1323 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 2: He couldn't keep new tears from following that movie. 1324 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 4: Find a movie that's mascular, Yeah, paid for a first 1325 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 4: date that's masculine. 1326 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, y'all, bitches, stop going to your pocket books. 1327 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: I was like, why are you going to your purse? 1328 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,600 Speaker 4: You know some woman? You know what a woman told me? 1329 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 4: They say they do that because that's setting up the play. 1330 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, the real gold Diggs do trick for 1331 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: some men are offended by that. Yeah, I'm not doing that. 1332 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 4: What about me leave the tip or something that's cool? 1333 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: I leave the tip. 1334 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to. 1335 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Actually, don't walk in don't walk in dark Alley's bitch. 1336 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 2: That's to till uh be a stay at home mom, No, 1337 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 2: being a stay at home dad. I'm sorry. I'm so 1338 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 2: used to saying mom. 1339 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,560 Speaker 4: All right before I say, I got to put that 1340 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 4: one in context because I'm a dad now right, and 1341 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 4: I didn't have a full understanding of what it was 1342 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: what it was like to be a parent, because kids 1343 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 4: is a lot, a lot, and I'm gonna have to 1344 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 4: say masculine, I'm telling you because people think, oh, it's 1345 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 4: a baby, No, you can go home. That's crazy. I 1346 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 4: made a Facebook poss about this too. 1347 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,520 Speaker 2: You can be having. 1348 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 4: A mental breakdown. Kids doing know nothing but none of that. 1349 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 4: They're gonna come to you, daddy, Mama. I want a popsicle, 1350 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 4: take me to the park. I want to go to 1351 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 4: trampoline park. I want to go to this pool. I 1352 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 4: want you'd be like, if you know the day I had, 1353 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 4: you wouldn't ask me for nothing. 1354 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm about to stroke out. You want to go. 1355 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: It's like your woman is working and you're at your 1356 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: I mean stay at home dad. You a woman is 1357 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: working and you're at home with the kid. That's masculine. 1358 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 4: That can be masculine as well. Yes, I'm telling you 1359 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 4: because kids is a lot interesting, because that's a duty 1360 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 4: within itself. Taking care of gives at the house, it 1361 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 4: takes a lot. 1362 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So asking for emotional reassurance very masculine. 1363 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 4: Yes, because men are very emotional. You know, we were 1364 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 4: taught when we were kids, be tough, holding it in, 1365 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,680 Speaker 4: don't cry, don't express yourself. And now you got men 1366 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,839 Speaker 4: that are grown adults not knowing how to properly express 1367 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 4: himself to his woman. You see what I'm saying. And 1368 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 4: so he keeps everything inside, you know, he internalizes his emotions, 1369 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:44,600 Speaker 4: how you feel. 1370 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 2: And then everything comes out as anger. Every emotion comes 1371 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 2: out as anger. 1372 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 4: But that's only if his talk Doune exploded. You see 1373 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 1374 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 2: But the. 1375 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 4: Trick to it is providing a safe space for a 1376 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 4: brother to be emotional. If you provide that, you wouldn't 1377 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 4: have no problem with him communicating or being expressing himself. 1378 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 2: And how do we provide that? 1379 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 4: You provide that by being a good listener, and also 1380 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 4: by being a good listener, also by reaffirmed, reaffirming him 1381 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 4: as he's communicating, you know, letting him again, letting him 1382 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,560 Speaker 4: know how how much you appreciate him. Appreciation go a 1383 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 4: long way with men, a long way. Men don't really 1384 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 4: care about love like that, respect and appreciation don't care. 1385 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 2: They don't want to be loved, They want to be 1386 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:39,839 Speaker 2: appreciated and respected. 1387 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 4: Men you love the kids. Men won't respect. Love will 1388 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 4: come from that. 1389 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Telling you, uh, taken longer than your girl to get dressed. 1390 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 4: I could be very feminine. Feminine, No, I listen when 1391 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 4: am innute shower. I know what I'm putting on when 1392 01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 4: I get out the shower, like I already be thinking 1393 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 4: about that, you know. And the men don't got to 1394 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,560 Speaker 4: do all the other aesthetics to get themselves together. You know, 1395 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 4: sometimes our women women ugly. No, I understand. Women gotta 1396 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 4: take time to enhance their beauty, you know. You know, 1397 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 4: y'all gotta get right. 1398 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,959 Speaker 2: What about meditating or journaling? 1399 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 4: That can be a mixture of both. That could be 1400 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 4: a mixture of both. In my opinion, you don't write. 1401 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 2: It down. 1402 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,720 Speaker 4: Norogyness is what you're saying somewhat yes, because I compartmentalize 1403 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,560 Speaker 4: everything like, Okay, I know I gotta do this, I 1404 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 4: gotta do that, I gotta do that, I gotta do that. 1405 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 4: I don't have to write it down for me, you know. 1406 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 2: And I don't you be forgetting ship? 1407 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: I might have said, do you actually be executed because 1408 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of your niggas is unetequinte yahd medicine. 1409 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 4: Very organized and punctual. You see, I gotta here with Tom. 1410 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 2: We will see sometime. 1411 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: We was letting your woman take the. 1412 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 4: Lead in bed in bed very masculine. We want that, yes, 1413 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,560 Speaker 4: because men like to be desired as well. Yes, we 1414 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 4: don't always want to be not all the time. We 1415 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 4: don't always want to be the one to the first move. 1416 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 4: Sometimes come over here, Yeah, come over here. 1417 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: And what if your man say? What if your man 1418 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,679 Speaker 1: be like, I don't feel like it today, Tom. 1419 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 4: Give me that date? How do you feel about that? 1420 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 4: If he said I don't feel like it today? 1421 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want to know why I have had 1422 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: it like this is this wasn't a boyfriend and I'd 1423 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: never been turned out by like a boy's right, by 1424 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,640 Speaker 1: somebody I was fucking with and he told me he 1425 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: wants to be alone tonight, he wants a me time, 1426 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,440 Speaker 1: and I didn't talk alone. 1427 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 4: Damn, the man can't have no me time. 1428 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Hell no, because that hold on. What that means is 1429 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: you're not gonna always feel like the person you're fucking with. 1430 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: You do do it sometimes because they want to, right. 1431 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you only gonna fuck 1432 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: with me when you feel like it, Like, that's. 1433 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 2: Not what's wrong with that? 1434 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 1: No, that means if I don't fuck Okay, obviously I 1435 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: fucked with you and I didn't feel like it at 1436 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: some point that was a personal choice. You could say that. 1437 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,640 Speaker 1: That's to me. I hate when people be like, well, 1438 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: you chose to do that, because relationships is always given, 1439 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: taking people choosing and making sacrifices. So no, you can't 1440 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 1: tell me you feel like being alone tonight because you 1441 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: think when you call me tomorrow when you feel like me, 1442 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just come over there. 1443 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 2: But you can't say you feel alone. 1444 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: It's not if I if I like somebody, I'm not 1445 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 1: just trying to just we don't even have to have sex. 1446 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,719 Speaker 1: We could just I like to be alone with somebody 1447 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: that's you. 1448 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what If he said, hey, not tonight, or 1449 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 4: I need some time to myself, so he can. 1450 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 1: He just I want to be alone to night. 1451 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 2: What if he had something happen. 1452 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: If it's his mind, I was going to fuck somebody else. Man, 1453 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: it's okay, and listen and here's the thing, and here's 1454 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: the thing. You can do that, right. I'm not somebody 1455 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: you could just brush off like that. You can't do 1456 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: that to me. So I didn't know. I'm not holding 1457 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,880 Speaker 1: a grudge against him, like I still talk to him 1458 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 1: when I see him and shit like that. But I 1459 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: stopped talking with him. 1460 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 1461 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,760 Speaker 2: Just because he wanted to be alone one night. 1462 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 4: Man wanted some time. Maybe he didn't feel like it 1463 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 4: was fair for you, to fair to you, for him 1464 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 4: to be in that space around you. 1465 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 2: Maybe he feels like he didn't deserve your energy that 1466 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 2: night because it's something he was going through mentally. 1467 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 4: But if it was some health issues, what if it 1468 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 4: was he I just found out some bad news. 1469 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 1: You had to hurt break out. Good goddamn. 1470 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 4: Health. 1471 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,440 Speaker 1: They got a breakout, he got it somewhere life. 1472 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 2: Godda right, nig can't even have a bad day man alone. 1473 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 1: It was a Friday night. Quit playing in my face 1474 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: and then like anytime after that, you was on my 1475 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: nuts if I had some you see what I'm saying. 1476 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 1: So it's when I took my energy completely away from 1477 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: him because I know, first of all, this is community dick. Okay, 1478 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,440 Speaker 1: all right, set up the play, set up the story's 1479 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: o community dick. And this wasn't this is this is 1480 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: just I was doing some shit because sometimes I get 1481 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: bored if I'm single. 1482 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So. 1483 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I know this person, so I know how 1484 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: he moves. So you you maybe it would have been 1485 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: better if he said, no, I'm having somebody else over 1486 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: the night. Maybe I would have taken to that more. 1487 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't know that you would have accepted that more 1488 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 2: than I want to be alone time. 1489 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that. 1490 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 2: Why would you accept that more? Because now that that 1491 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 2: feels like now you're choosing somebody over me. That's a 1492 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 2: problem to me. 1493 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 1: But I feel like you lied and chose somebody over me, 1494 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: which is why you don't have access to me. 1495 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 2: No, if it's not a lot that but what if 1496 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 2: it's not a lie. 1497 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 1: If I call, I do because I took my energy 1498 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 1: from him. I bet you I can call him every 1499 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: single It's when they think they some type of control, 1500 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: so I took the control back. 1501 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 4: You can't funk that was in competition with one another. 1502 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 2: That's what someone. 1503 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't in competition. 1504 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't in man. 1505 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 4: I just wanted some me time. 1506 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: And you, hey boy, fuck you going out your mean 1507 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: time and you can't never talk to me no time. 1508 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 4: And send the block? 1509 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 3: All right? 1510 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Do you say I love you? What about saying I 1511 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,679 Speaker 2: love you to your male friends? 1512 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 4: That has been hard for me. But I do love 1513 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 4: my I do love my male friends. I love all 1514 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 4: of them. 1515 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,679 Speaker 2: But telling them is hard. 1516 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,799 Speaker 1: Why you just just saying, like one of your homeboys 1517 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: been calling y'all and telling y'all how he loved y'all 1518 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: when he drunk. 1519 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, when he drunk. 1520 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 2: But maybe that just allows him to be more more vulnerable. 1521 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 4: No, that's dangerous because you get fucked. No, don't call 1522 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 4: me when you're intoxicated. But brother, I love you. Brother. 1523 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 4: What you're about to do? Be about to jump off 1524 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,640 Speaker 4: a bridge? No, no, what you about to do? But 1525 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 4: to answer the question, that's masculine. That's masculine. 1526 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,800 Speaker 2: But why do you have trouble with it? 1527 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Because I was never around men who said that to 1528 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 4: other men glowing up. You know, even the men didn't 1529 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 4: growing up my father. Fortunately for me, my father told 1530 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 4: me as a kid he loved me. But a lot 1531 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 4: of men in the community didn't tell other adolescents that 1532 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 4: they loved them. And hear other men tell other men 1533 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 4: that they love them, so that was always hard for me. 1534 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 4: I get it, so it's easy for me to tell 1535 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 4: my child. 1536 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 2: But I challenge you all men listening, if you listen 1537 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 2: to the show, tell your friends you love them. 1538 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 4: I love y'all, man, I love each and every last 1539 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 4: one of you. Guys. 1540 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 2: Man, hey, man, see I love that. 1541 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 1: I love that. 1542 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 2: I tell listen. I tell our listeners every day, every episode, 1543 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 2: I tell them I love them because some people don't 1544 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 2: hear it. 1545 01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 4: It's the fact I actually have friends that old me 1546 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 4: that their parents never told them that. 1547 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,560 Speaker 2: They love exactly. You know, some people never hear it. 1548 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 2: They just would love for them mama, just to say 1549 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 2: I love you, you know. So that's why I tell you, 1550 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 2: because if you ain't gonna hear it, nowhere else you'n. 1551 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: We talk about just be telling people I love them, 1552 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,480 Speaker 1: because my love comes with action. I can't just fribuously 1553 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: tell just people random people I love y'all because you don't. Yeah, 1554 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know people right right, And it's like, uh, 1555 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 1: my love does not really come with conditions either, Like 1556 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 1: real love does not come with conditions. So I can't 1557 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 1: just use that word with a bunch of people that 1558 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 1: I don't know, because the minutes you disappoint them, they 1559 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 1: will turn on you and they never loved you, you 1560 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The minute you do or say 1561 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: something they don't like, they turn it on you. So 1562 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: did you ever love me for real? Or a minute 1563 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 1: they say you do something to you like fuck you. 1564 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,519 Speaker 1: I don't really be quick to tell people I love 1565 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,040 Speaker 1: fuck them? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I 1566 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 1: can't really get into what strangers like that. I absolutely 1567 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 1: appreciate everybody though. I have a lot of gratitude and 1568 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,560 Speaker 1: thanks for everybody. But I have a real love a 1569 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: girl like for real, for real, and I be like 1570 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,560 Speaker 1: in my feelings about shit. So if I feel like 1571 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 1: slighted after I had outside, oh marshmallow on that. 1572 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 2: Side, that's very See. I just id like to think 1573 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 2: that I walk around with Gods loving me every day 1574 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 2: and I want to display that and every day. And 1575 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 2: that's why I tell people I love them, because that's 1576 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 2: what we're supposed to exhibit. 1577 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I play it. 1578 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it. I'm gonna do you gotta 1579 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: do bo. Yeah, I'm gonna do the things to let 1580 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 1: you know I love you. And that is because of 1581 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: how I was raised. My mama never was just giving 1582 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 1: out hugs and saying I love you, But you knew 1583 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,680 Speaker 1: she loved you. But the things, you know, how she 1584 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 1: shows up for you absolutely just raw love. 1585 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 4: But then you gotta look at what they heard versus 1586 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 4: what they didn't hear. You see what I'm saying. Did 1587 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 4: their parents tell them I love you? You see what 1588 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying because I think. 1589 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 2: Hearing it is important? 1590 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,920 Speaker 1: No, it is, it is important for today. I love y'all. 1591 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 2: Y'all right, here, we love you too, John, I got 1592 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 2: some love right for a second. 1593 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: No, let me tell y'all, y'all experience this love is 1594 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 1: gonna make you a better person. I'm telling you I create. 1595 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 2: God, right, Amen, Do you have a last? 1596 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 3: Last? 1597 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: Terry? 1598 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can find you, follow you, support 1599 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:38,560 Speaker 2: you all the things. 1600 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 4: Great great great. My name is Terry. You can find 1601 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:46,640 Speaker 4: me on Instagram at I Am so Charleston, At I 1602 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 4: Am so Charleston. I A M C H A r 1603 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 4: l E S t O. 1604 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,559 Speaker 2: N you love out the song from the West. 1605 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 4: I said so, I A M S O C H 1606 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,640 Speaker 4: A R r l E S t O with. 1607 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: Erga shame anyway, y'all. If y'all enjoyed this episode, y'all 1608 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,719 Speaker 1: tune in every Thursday on The Black Effect. iHeart radio 1609 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 1: app and Kevin Heart. We need to check because he 1610 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: loveed to kill Lokate. I've been buying that ship. 1611 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 4: What is it? 1612 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce it. It's to Kevin Heart to Quille. 1613 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 2: It did you tell him you're nos? 1614 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,799 Speaker 1: Aj Holiday two play on Instagram's Kicking Tam. 1615 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 2: Y'all, It's official Tam Bam on Instagram. Remember speak now, 1616 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 2: m And lastly. 1617 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 4: I just want to say I am very proud of 1618 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 4: you both. I see the progress and only God knows 1619 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 4: what he has the store for y'all. 1620 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 2: A man, thank you, We appreciate that. 1621 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 3: Best. Last, Oh, it's not last. 1622 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,440 Speaker 2: Last, Yes, speak now, thank you, and never hold your accountability, 1623 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 2: own it. 1624 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: We talk Back podcast is the production of iHeart Radio. 1625 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 1: Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 1626 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 1: to your favorite jokes.