1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason MacIntire. What 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: is up? Straight firefam hits me Jason MacIntire, Straight Fire 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: for Monday, July seventeenth. I had to look down at 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the date because, oh my gosh, this was one of 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: those weekends like, not a lot happening in the sports world. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Did not spend a lot of time watching TV. I 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: will say this. So Sunday morning, I went to play 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: volleyball with some buddies and I walk out the door 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and I see Yokovic just smoking his opponent in the 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Wimbledon final. I'm like, oh, this is not gonna miss 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: much here. I think it was six to one first set. 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: I go play about almost two hours of volleyball. I 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: come back, I shower, the match is still going on. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's happening? And the kid Alcarez came back. Ope, 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying his name right. He's only twenty years old. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Unbelievable comeback and beat Yokovic, which is pretty cool. I'm 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: not a huge Yocre guy. I was always a Federer guy. 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I did not watch a lot of tennis. If you're 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: wondering why I'm opening with tennis, I'm playing in a 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: tennis tournament this week, but for the first time, not singles. 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Gonna try doubles with a buddy who's better than me. 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: But we've almost played no tennis together, so we'll see 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: how that goes. Fortunately, I don't have to do a 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: lot more tennis on this pod because there are actually 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: some real relevant NFL news went down over the weekend. Yes, 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: it was bigger than Mexico beating Panama won nothing in 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: the Gold Cup final. The US would have fair better, 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: trust me. The Tennessee Titans have signed DeAndre Hopkins as expected. 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: Patriots were in the mix and a lot of people 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: are making fun of Hopkins for picking the Titans. Wait, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: he really picked Ryan Tannehill over Mac Jones. Two years, 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: twenty six mil. There will be heavy incentives to the contract. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins chose to do the stay classy route and 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: go on social media after the deal was announced by 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: all the media and basically point fingers that the hate 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: and the doubters. I didn't know there were haters for 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. I didn't think he was that relevant coming 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: off an injury played season where the Cardinals were a 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. I've got an extensive breakdown of what he 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: means to Tennessee, and listen, I've never been a huge 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Titans guy. There is a range of outcomes where this 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: team's in the playoffs next year. I know they didn't 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: play well last year. Great stat that had just pulled 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: up oh to nine last year against playoff teams, the 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: Titans ohwen nine, but they did not have Tannehill for 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: the full season. Hopkins listened. I'm not going to be 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: one of those guys who's out here saying he's washed. 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: Is he a top ten receiver in the league, absolutely not. 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: Is he top twenty we'll see two years ago, certainly, 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: But now you know, following the injury, the reports that 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: he did not want to practice in Arizona, we'll see 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: what happens to Tennessee. He gets a I would say 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a downgraded quarterback. Kyler Murray went healthy, excellent. Now you're 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: going to Tannehill, who missed I believe four games last year, 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: including the Week Week eighteen game, I guess the final 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: week game in which they pulled Josh Dobbs off the 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: street to start. Yes, that's real. Over Malik Willis and 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Dobbs you know, struggled. They nearly won the game, but 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: there was a late turnover that cost him. Jags end 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: up getting to the playoffs. But the silver lining, Yeah, 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: they were zero to nine against playoff teams, but five 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: of those losses why why were by one score? So 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: now you think it, Well, wait a minute, could Hopkins 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: put him over the top? And is there a world 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: where Tannehill's healthy. Derrick Henry is not on the down slope? 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I think we all think he is right. You can't 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: keep giving this guys three hundred carries I think three 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: out of the last four years and not expect him 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: to break down. And Hopkins helps a beleaguered offense. They 70 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: ranked I believe twenty ninth in the league in offense 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: last year. They just couldn't move the football. Okay, Traylon Burks, 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: the rookie out of Arkansas, very nice player, but like Treylon, 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Burks was their number one, Like you can't expect a 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: rookie to be a one. So Hopkins now slides into 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: their number one role. Well, Burks will now face number 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: two cornerbacks, They'll have various guys in the slot. They 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: will have a poo poo platter of tight ends. Sorry 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: to be disrespectful, Titans fans, but you guys keep losing 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: tight ends, and really you're banking the season on three things. 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel one of the most underrated coaches in the league. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: If you want to look at one of the best 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: coaching performances of the season last year, go look on 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: YouTube Titans chief Sunday Night Football. The Chiefs were favored 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: by a billion The Titans I think started Malik Willis 85 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: and I believe through like under ten passes and they 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: were somehow in the game deep into the fourth quarter. 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Like it was an unbelievable performance from Vrabel. He's a 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: great defensive coach. So now you're like, okay, really good defense, 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: excellent coach. We finally got a good receiver. If Tannehill's healthy, 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: if Henry's healthy, and oh, by the way, look at 91 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: our schedule, which is favorable, and folks, there are some 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: warning signs for the Jags. We will get to Jacksonville. 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know a few weeks up when we preview 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: that team, but I'm just saying right now this idea 95 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: that the Jags are going to keep rocking and rolling. Like, oh, 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: by the way, they backed into the playoffs last year. 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: They started three and seven and got to the playoffs. 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: Titans started seven and three. Then the wheels start to 99 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: fall off. Then their GM was fired. Remember that they 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: had the OC had an off field incident. It got 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: really wonky for the Titans. I'm let's just say I 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: was a bigger fan of DeAndre Hopkins two years ago. Rob. 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: We know, things happened fast in the NFL, like the 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: downfall goes quickly. It's like you're on top of the world, 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: little wonkiness, and then boom, the bottom falls out. Two 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: years Arizona playoffs, last year, Kyler Murray hurt. Now worst 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: team in the league, possibly lowest win total. They might 108 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: have the number one pick and they may move off 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. That all happened in two seasons, which is 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: like technically less than two years. I don't totally know 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: what to make of Tennessee. I don't want to punt, 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: but I also don't want to pull a Jim Kramer 113 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: and just say buy or sell right now. I mean, 114 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to hold on the Tennessee Titans even after 115 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: getting DeAndre Hopkins. 116 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, it's totally reasonable. I have several thoughts, 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: a cornucopia of thoughts on this topic. 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: So let me try to go on DeAndre Hopkins. 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Yes, on DeAndre Hopkins. I want to try to organize 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: myself as best as possible. But there's just a lot 121 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: to break down the positives. Okay, Tennessee was an absolute 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: dumpster fire offensively last year. They were twenty eighth in 123 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: the league in scoring offense. They had the third worst 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: total offense in the league two hundred and ninety six 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: point eight yards per game, and the third worst passing 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: offense one hundred and seventy one passing yards per game. 127 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, as he's shown in Houston, as he's shown 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: in Arizona, he can elevate the floor of your offense 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: just because he can move the chains as well as 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: almost any any receiver in football. He's not taking the 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: top off, that's not what he does. I think that's 132 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: why you're probab lower on him than some of the 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: other receivers on the NFL because he's not a game breaker, 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: but he can get open. He can do comebacks, out 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: route stuff over the middle. He's gonna help you to 136 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: extend drives and that's only gonna help this offense. With 137 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Derek Henry leading the way, that's the positive side of it. 138 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: On the flip side, history tells us that this is 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: not going to work out well for Tennessee. Let me 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: point you back to the year of our Lord twenty ten. 141 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Do you recall I don't even remember this. Jason Randy 142 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Moss was a Tennessee Titan for a hot second play 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: eight games for them, starting four, had a total of 144 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: six receptions. 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: Could guess? Could I guess the quarterback? Twy Tennessee Titans 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: go for it? Any I know, I'm gonna need a hint. 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: Obviously, I mean, let me pull it up here and 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: see if I can help you out. They had a 149 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: couple of quarters. They had two quarterbacks. One of them 150 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: I think you'll get he was drafted by the club. 151 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: They thought he was the franchise guy. Ended up being 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: out the case. Oh Jake Locker, not Jake Locker. 153 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Ooh okay, uh jeez? 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: Call it twenty ten. Picture the two thousand and five 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. 156 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Matt Lionert Vince Young though he was no VINCEO. 157 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Come on, man, good. 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: Lioner was drafted by Arizona. Obviously Vince Young. 159 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: Wow, he was one and then the other half of 160 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, former Raider, big arm, former Giant quarterback. 161 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Raider Giant. Not Kurt warning Away, Uh no, definitely, 162 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: not Eli Manning. I was gonna go deep in my 163 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: bag and say, Jeff host Hitler, but he's not even 164 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: from this century. 165 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: Carrie Collins, Carrie Collins is coron KFC. If you're a Raider, 166 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Carrie fucking Collins rehearsing America. Yeah, they they hated him 167 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: with a passion up in Oakland, and then more recently 168 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, sticking in Tennessee, they tried this again. 169 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: Brought in a former stud wide receiver who had kind 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: of worn out his welcome in his previous team twenty 171 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: twenty one Julio Jones. Oh yeah, played ten games, starting 172 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: all ten, thirty one, catches one touchdown. So history is 173 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: not on their side right now. I mean, I don't 174 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: know what it is. If they're just getting these guys 175 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: a couple of years too late. Maybe it's a scheme fit. 176 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: Who knows, but my big I guess conversation about DeAndre 177 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: Hopkins and we talked about this before we started recording 178 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: d hop during his recruitment tour. If you want to 179 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: call it that reportedly he only really met with two teams, 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: which was Tennessee and New England. But during this whole saga, 181 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: he said there was three things he was looking for 182 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: in his next team. Stable management, a quarterback who loves 183 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: the game, and a great defense, because in his eyes, 184 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: defense can help you win a championship. He settles on 185 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, who, as you alluded to a few 186 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: minutes ago, fire their general manager in the middle of 187 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: the season. Their quarterback for now is Ryan Tannehill, and 188 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: they've drafted his replacement each of the last two seasons, 189 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: and this last one, this is my favorite. Shout out 190 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: to a friend of the show, Aaron Schatz. The Titans 191 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: defense was ranked twenty second and waited DVA last season. 192 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Really that's interesting because I thought they were better than that. Huh. 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought they were too, but you know, 194 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: DVOA is the yeah to look at in these situations. 195 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they got to the Bills, they gave up 196 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: forty one to Buffalo. Than that, they weren't bad, but 197 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: then again they lost to anybody good they played. Yeah, 198 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: they had a lot of injuries, I know in the 199 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: secondary and on. 200 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Sure, and a lot of this stuff, you know, requires context. 201 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to say is the things that 202 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: he was looking for. I don't think you can say 203 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: with a straight face that that's what the Tennessee Titans represent. 204 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: Those three things. The strong quarterback, you know, the quarterback 205 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: loves the game because you don't knowho's going to be. 206 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: The front office. As you mentioned, the defense is not 207 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: as good as we thought it was. This really comes 208 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: down to they offered him the bag Buffalo didn't. They 209 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: offered him the bag Kansas City did, And that's fine, 210 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: just be honest about it. That's my only thing is 211 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to these situations in any walk of life, 212 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: whether it's playing professional football or hosting a professional sports 213 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: podcast like Jason McIntyre, you can say all you want, Hey, 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: I want the big platform, I want to have you 215 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: know this, certain access to guest list, I want to 216 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: have my weekends free, whatever it is. Nine times out 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: of ten for most people, this place is going to 218 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: offer me the most money or the most money relative 219 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: to the amount of work I have to do. And 220 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: if you're honest with yourself, yeah, I would appreciate it 221 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: more well. 222 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So it's easy to say that he wanted the most money. 223 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee gave him the most. But what we do not 224 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: have is the Patriots offer. Okay, did the Patriots offer 225 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: ten and he took thirteen? Because listen, I don't know 226 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: about you. Twenty six million over two years, even if 227 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: you have taxes and take out the money for the agent, 228 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money that I guess seventy five 229 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: percent of Americans will not see in the next twenty years, right, 230 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: So we're looking at twenty six mil or twenty mil. 231 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: My guest then I would think you would agree is 232 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: that the Patriots were like, we're not coming in anywhere 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: close to that. We just paid Juju, we just paid DeVante. 234 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I think you know, most people would agree those were 235 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: a slight overpace. Yeah, we'll come in at like six 236 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: million year with heavy incentives to get you to ten. 237 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Because then if that's the case, then you chase the 238 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: bag and like Tannehill, you know, good quarterback. He did 239 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: good with aj Brown. Although AJ Brown then makes the 240 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: jump to light speed when he's paired with Jalen Hurts 241 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: and Agent Brown, AJ Brown looks like a top five receiver. 242 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: I can't fault the guy for taking the bag. Would 243 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: not shock me if they made the playoffs. We can 244 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: all say what our wishlists are, Rob, I mean, you 245 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: got a Christmas wish list every year? I want this, 246 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I want this. You know we're booking a vacation for 247 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: next month. I'm like, well, I want this, you know, 248 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, and you kind of aim for the sky. 249 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: Shall we say we're already no cap as my son 250 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: likes to say, already planning next year spring break. Rob, 251 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: you got to book these things early, right, you got 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: to get the best deals. And you know we're high 253 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: off the Paris trip and I'm like, we got to 254 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: get back to Europe. I need to get there now. 255 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: We don't want to go to Paris again because the 256 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Olympics is there nowt year, it's gonna be a poop show. 257 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: But two years if we can get back to Paris. 258 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: But but I would love to go to Europe on 259 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: spring break. But then the problem Rob is like, well 260 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, what's the weather like 261 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: in Europe in like April? And then you run into 262 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: another host of problems. So like DeAndre Hopkins can say 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: he wants this, and by week six he may be unhappy. 264 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: But you know what he's still got that bag, Rob, 265 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: He's still got the Benjamins. We all have like our 266 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: ideas of what we want, and Hopkins took this. I 267 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: can't totally fault him. My question, Rob, is if Kansas 268 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: City had said, hey, we're gonna bring you in. We're 269 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the favorite to win the super Bowl. We have receivers, 270 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: but we're interested. We can only pay a little bit. 271 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: But what happens is guys come to play with us. 272 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: They look good. Patrick makes them look good, our offense 273 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: makes them look good. Then we probably ere in the 274 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl mix and they go get paid. Look at 275 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Juju Smith, do you want that? Or do you want 276 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: to chase you know, maybe your last big deal in 277 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee and not win a lot of games. That's the 278 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: real tough question where it's like, hey, I'm going to 279 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: take a step back in hopes of taking a step forward. 280 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: My only problem with that is his age. If you 281 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: were like in the twenties, I'd say go for it, 282 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: take a step back and look forward. But he's at 283 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: that age where it's like, Okay, is he washed? Is 284 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: he slowing down? You know, Rob, it was a tough decision. 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: I gotta say it's smart. Of him to take the 286 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: bag if you ask. 287 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: Me, yeah, and again I want to be full of scholture. 288 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: If it was me, I would have taken the bag too. 289 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: And that's I think where where I get frustrated is 290 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: because there is absolutely nothing wrong with just saying, hey, 291 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm taking going to the highest bidder or the highest 292 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: bidder in conjunction where winning is like kind of one 293 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: B or the second, you know, priority down. But just 294 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: don't give me a wish list saying that you want X, 295 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: Y and z, and none of the things that you 296 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: ask for fit you ended up going. It's kind of 297 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: similar to the Justin Jefferson Kirk Cousins thing that you 298 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: kind of took some meat on for last week, where look, 299 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: take the money first, and then you spin it in 300 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: the positive way and you say, yeah, you know, I 301 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: went here because I want to play with Derrick Henry, 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: because I really believe in Mike Rabel, because Ryan Tannehill 303 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: has some potential. You know, we saw it with his 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: feet and his legs and that could really fit years ago. Sure, 305 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: you can spin it any way you want to, but 306 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: we all know the reason you went there is for 307 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: the money, and that's fine. Just you know, be honest 308 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: about it. And to your point, if I was him, quickly, 309 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: if I was him and I was coming off a 310 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: season where I just got popped for ped six games suspension, 311 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: then I don't even finish the rest of the season 312 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: because I got hurt. I'm absolutely taking a one year, 313 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: what seven eight million dollar prove it deal in Buffalo 314 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: or in Kansas City or somewhere that's got a high 315 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: octane offense. Get my numbers up. And I think that 316 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: two year, thirty plus million that he just got would 317 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: be available next year as well. 318 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: Probably speaking of money, and I don't you know, I 319 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: don't want to start the week looking at people's pockets 320 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: and talking about money. But Rob sent me an amazing 321 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: quote from Austin Eckler of the Chargers. Now. Earlier this year, 322 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: Ekler and the Chargers were at each other's throats. Eckler's like, 323 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm not playing this season. The Chargers are like, 324 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: ha ha, You're funny. You're still playing. And he's still 325 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: on the team. It looks like he's gonna suit up. 326 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: But check out this quote from Austin Eckler about running backs. Now, 327 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: remember Saquon Barkley's ticked off right now, and Josh Jacobs 328 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: is ticked off. They're making strong claims that they will 329 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: not be in camp unless the deals hatch. We will 330 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: see what is this quote? Deadline spur actions. Quinn Williams 331 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: deal with the Jets wasn't getting done all summer. Then 332 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: the Jets sign up for Hard Knocks. They're like, we 333 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: don't want the Quinn Williams stuff looming over Hard Knocks. 334 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Let's get this deal done. Boom, deadline spur actions. No 335 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: real deadline yet. Trading camps starts soon. I think yes, 336 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: Aro on the twenty second. But check out the score 337 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: from Austin Eckler. If I'm looking at some of the 338 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: backup receivers out there that are making more money than me, 339 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna piss me off. Right. I'm a little bit like, okay, 340 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute. So you're telling me these people are 341 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: number three receivers and they're gonna make more money than me, 342 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: and I'm the starter. I get more carries, I touched 343 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: up all more, I have more of an impact. It 344 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: causes us to question, right, we're gonna fight for that, folks. 345 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: Rob Listen, we've seen beefs before at positions getting devalued, 346 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: like the power forward positions kind of devalued. In the NBA, 347 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: it's like gone centers. They're not getting to pay really 348 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: unless you're Yokic or Embiid. You know, there's just not 349 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: many great centers left in the league. Like, if you're 350 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: not a superstar center, you're not getting paid. In the NFL, 351 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: linebackers are getting paid less and less. A couple outliers, 352 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith, a couple other guys, but by and large, 353 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: like teams have to make sacrifices due to the salary cap. 354 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: And running back is that position where teams have just decided, hey, 355 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs aren't paying the running back. Nobody's paying the 356 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: running back. Part of the reason the Rams fell apart 357 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: was this Todd Gurley situation. They look like an MVP 358 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: candidate and all of a sudden he's hurt and boom 359 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: he's out of the league. Ezekiel Elliott, I think just 360 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: turned twenty eight unsigned. I mean he was a starter 361 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: last year. Kareem Hunt, you know, very good back. You know, 362 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's waiting for somebody to get injured, Like 363 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: not even signed. Giants don't want to pay sake one 364 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: raiders don't want to pay Jacob's like it's getting ugly 365 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: out there. And honestly, Rob Eckler has a good point. 366 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: There's not an easy like, oh wait, a number three 367 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: receiver is making more than me, Like, I mean, Hopkins 368 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: is not a one. I don't know is he a two? Rob, 369 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: he's old, Like there was a lot of questions as 370 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: he watched, And now Austin Eckler is going to be 371 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: making more than like thirty year old DeAndre Hopkins. Something 372 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: does seem little weird right now. 373 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, if you're listening to this pod 374 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: today here on Monday morning, we're recording this early early 375 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: Monday morning, we're hours away from the deadline for say 376 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: Quon and Josh Jacobs to get something done with this 377 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: long term deal. This is the deadline for them to 378 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: negotiate a new contract. And one of the other quotes 379 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: that Austin Eckler made during that interview you're talking about 380 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: the Rich Isis Show last week was quote, it's gonna 381 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: take something, whether some guy stands out again, whether it's 382 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: this year one of these guys holds out and gets 383 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: the big contract. This is the situation that they are 384 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: in with NFL running backs, it's going to take another 385 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: Leveon Bell type move for them to get the money 386 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: that they want. The problem like, as you said, it 387 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: didn't work last time, but the only way for them 388 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: to exactly he was at what basically out of the league. 389 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: A couple of years after that. 390 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: We're to the Jets and was like a total non factor, 391 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it. Now he's like boxing 392 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: against guys or something like that. 393 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Right, But I think it's it's going to take something 394 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: that extreme for them to turn the tables on this 395 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: one because I don't see an avenue for it to happen. 396 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: All of these guys, as great as they are. I 397 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: think Josh Jacobs is great. I think Saquon Barkley's great, 398 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler is fantastic. The problem is, we just saw 399 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl with the 400 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: seventh seventh round rookie I believe, Isaia Pachecki. Yeah right. 401 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: Previously before him, they had a bunch of, you know, 402 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: veteran type guys. Lashan McCoy was there for a hot second. 403 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: I know Ceh did only work out, but the running 404 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: back they had that was having the most success before 405 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: Pacheco was Kareem Hunt, who I believe they got in 406 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: like the fourth round. That's like, yes, the running back 407 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: position is so interchangeable these days that as good as 408 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: Jacobs and Saquon are, you can get eighty percent of 409 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: that same production on ten percent of the cost. So 410 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 2: I film an NFL franchise, why would I pay these 411 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: running backs? 412 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: So the Giants one is interesting. Rob Barkley was instrumental 413 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: last year, remember the two years probably wasn't really healthy. 414 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: He's healthy. Last year. Daniel Jones gets a new offensive 415 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: coordinator slash head coach, and all of a sudden they 416 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: look good. They won a playoff game. So what will 417 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: have changed if Saquon Barkley says, sorry, guys, I'm sitting out, 418 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: they just won't have them. And what would be your 419 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: guest without looking at the schedule in your head, the 420 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Giants are what like a five, six, seven, eight win team. 421 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we know they're not going to the playoffs 422 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: without Saquon bar you could just forget it one hundred 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: percent not happening. And then does that mean Saquon has 424 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: more value? But that's the thing I don't know that 425 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Instantly people will say, yeah, Saquon's worth, You've got to 426 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: get him to get to the playoffs. At what cost? 427 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, there is no easy answer, man, They're just 428 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: isn't rob. It's disappointing. I guess you could just try 429 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: to work on one year deals or only exclusively target 430 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: teams with a quarterback on a rookie deal. Hey, Carolina, 431 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: are you interested in my work? Trade for me or 432 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: I want to go there? Who else? Houston is starting 433 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback in CJ. Stroud Pittsburgh while they have 434 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: nanje Harris, they don't need a running back. But I 435 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: would only look at teams where they're not paying their 436 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: quarterback Mahomes, Daniel Jones big, big money. If your quarterback 437 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: is not like a top fifteen quarterback in terms of salary, 438 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: that's where the running back should go. And that's kind 439 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: of what happened with the Niners trade with Carolina for Cemac. 440 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: The problem is who's trading for Saquon Barkley. If you're 441 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: Bryce Young and Carolina, do you think, hey, we could 442 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: be Saquon Barkley away from the playoffs maybe, Like I 443 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: don't think they think they're there they're at least a 444 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: year away from that. If you're CJ. Stroud and you say, 445 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, we do have that bowling ball of a 446 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: running back, I'm spacing on his name, the young kid 447 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: who he was really good. He was on my fantasy team. 448 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe he got I think he got injured 449 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: late in the season. But like, do we need Saquon 450 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Barkley And I really think like the options are limited 451 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: for these guys like Austin Eckler we know is going 452 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to be elsewhere. They Chargers won't be able to afford him. 453 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: It's just bleak your guy, Jacobs. Like, if I'm one 454 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: of those teams not paying my quarterback, you would say 455 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta with what's his name? That has been ridder. But 456 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: they now have b Jeon Robinson and they just drafted, 457 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: and they have Algier, the fifth round guy who had 458 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: like a thousand yards. So rob there is a world 459 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: where running backs exist, It's just a very narrow, narrow world. 460 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I honestly feel bad for Sakuon Barkley 461 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: because anybody with half a brain watching that team knows 462 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: that he was the only reason why that was any 463 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: even mediocre offensively because Daniel Jones is I know he 464 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over, but he didn't show anything 465 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: that made you think that he was the reason they 466 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: were winning those games. And then Daniel Jones is the 467 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: one who gets the deal first. He gets forty million 468 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: dollars a year, and I'm over here scratching and clawing 469 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 2: and causing a stink all off season to get a 470 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: reported nineteen million dollars guaranteed. Like what if I'm him, 471 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm pissed right And by the way, the guy you 472 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: were talking about Houston Texas, Damian Pierce, was running back. 473 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: With Pierce thank you, yes number three. 474 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: But again, the problem, though, is Saquan's great. But history 475 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: in the NFL says we can get another one, a 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: fact simile of Saquon Barkley. He may not be as 477 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: good as Sakuan, he may not be as explosive, may 478 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: not be able to do all the things that he does, 479 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 2: but we can get a guy who can do seventy 480 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: percent of it, eighty percent of it. It's not going 481 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: to cause us anything, and we can instead spend the 482 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: money on the big time quarterback, the top flight wide receiver, 483 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: the left tackle, the edge Rusher the shutdown corner, because 484 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: those are the positions that are true difference makers in 485 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: the NFL, where there's only so many of those guys 486 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: walking on planet Earth that are really gonna make a difference, 487 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: and unfortunately, running back is not one of those positions. 488 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Rob, I don't know the answer 489 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: to this, but let's say Berkley sits out the season. 490 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: His contract for this season is guaranteed, right, or is 491 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: he gonna sit out and get zero because he didn't 492 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: sign the franchise tag. 493 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: It would be zero. But I think he can do 494 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: I think I remember reading from an agent that he 495 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: can sign and then participate like in the last three 496 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: games or the four games or whatever, and then that's 497 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: it and then it counts. Otherwise, if he doesn't participate 498 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: at all, it tolls over to the next season and 499 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: they can just franchise him again with the same cost. 500 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: That would kind of be a dick move of them 501 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: to like, he sits out and they're like, we're gonna 502 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: still do same thing. He will, poor guy. I'm rooting 503 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: for Saquon. I'm like you, I'm rooting for the little 504 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: guy here. You got the big bad billionaire owner of 505 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: the giants. Who is it? Mara Mara family. You don't 506 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: you don't want to open the checkbook payd Saquon Barkley, 507 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: guy you drafted top five. You know it's got to 508 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: be hurt, you know, Jerry Jones really, I mean, I 509 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: might be wrong. I think Jerry Jones has given like 510 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: one interview since they dropped Zeke, Like, honestly, I think 511 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: it hurt him badly, Like it really that was his dude. 512 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: Everything I've heard about from Dallas was that was his guy. 513 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: They really vibe together, and I guess they just said, 514 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: we've got to cut this guy or we're gonna lose this, 515 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: that and the other. And they were like, all right, 516 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: I guess we got to do it. And you know, 517 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the story's done, Rob. I think we'll 518 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: be talking about running backs throughout the summer. We're now 519 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: at about eight weeks until the No. Nine weeks I 520 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: think until the start of the NFL season. A lot 521 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: of NFL to come this week. Good guests as well, 522 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. I'll talk to you then.