1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: All good. I haven't seen since the COMMA. Yeah, what 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: do you think your roster now for here doing? Yeah. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, what we 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: really look to do is try to continue to raise 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: the floor of the organization, Right, how do we continue 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: to get better consistency, good sound football players that love 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: to play the game. Really, that's all we were really 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: trying to do. And I think that ultimately they'll come 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: in and mess really well with some of the players 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: that we already have in our locker room. 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Guys want to get better. 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: We've felt that, we have felt that throughout this offseason. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: Guys are eager to get in the building as we 14 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: are as coaches. 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Man, it's happening fast. 16 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: So really excited about the collaboration we have had with 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: some of the drafts, some of the free agency. 18 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: In our current roster, things are going pretty well so far. 19 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Then you think it through some of the much I 20 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: like about this free age place. 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you literally look, we you know 22 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: with the four oh, well, really those guys at the 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: end of the day, with McCary, Tuma Adoga, Robert Hainsey 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: and obviously. 25 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: With John and their Fred guys. These guys are. 26 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: They love to play the game, They love what it's 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: about to be an O lineman, right, That's kind of 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: who they are at the core. Hainesy's been in the system, 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: So now you have two O linemen that have been 30 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: in your system now some version of it with Luke 31 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Fortner and now Hainsey. That'll help spread out to a 32 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: lot of our players. 33 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: They'll be able. 34 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: To understand system a little bit quicker coaches. 35 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna help from so many different ways. 36 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: So you look at obviously the OL and then you 37 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: know on the offensive side as well, at a receiver 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: with deanbi Brown with getting some speed right, somebody else 39 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: that can go down the field, so BT is not 40 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: always having to be that guy on the top shelf. 41 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side, man, you really look 42 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: at Jordan Lewis and being able to bring another veteran 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: defensive back in there help settle things down in the back. 44 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: End and create some competition with Eric Murray. 45 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: I think we've done a nice job with being to 46 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: get those players that will help settle things in and 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: be able to create that kind of balance football club 48 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: that we're looking for. Arey too, Yeah, that was a 49 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: great point is it so many guys that's familiar toy, 50 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: but you man, it's on. 51 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: The coaching staff too. 52 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: That's the beautiful part, right, We've been able to get 53 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: onboarded so much quicker just because man, look at the 54 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: offensive staff, they have almost all been in a version 55 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: of this system. So as much as being a head 56 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: coach for the first time, it has been amazing. 57 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do as much football as I'm. 58 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Used to, but to hear the conversations that are happening 59 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: in the building, be able to go in there and 60 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: hear the dialogue and the presentations. It's pretty cool because 61 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm familiar with that flow and so many guys just 62 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: getting protections on boarded. All three of the quarterback ol 63 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: running back coach have all been in this protection system. 64 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Think about how much quicker that is to be able 65 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: to onboard the calendar that takes out game and got 66 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of time. 67 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: We've spent almost every waking minute together throughout the last 68 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: few weeks. Honestly, it's really just been us together with 69 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: the help of some mothers as well that have been 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: part of this problem process. 71 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: But it's so easy to talk to him. 72 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he breaks things down to such an elite 73 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: level of simplicity for me because he's a lot smarter 74 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: than I am, and so he's able to break down 75 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: the draft understand it as well as anybody I've heard 76 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: had these conversations. 77 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: We've got guys in buckets to where we're trying to look. 78 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: For him, and he's been able to map things out 79 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: for me to be able to understand at a high level. 80 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: Was the collaboration piece chip. 81 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: That was a huge part. 82 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I was with him for a short 83 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: time in LA that helped bridge that gap a little bit. 84 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: And I can't think bigger enough for what we were 85 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: able to do last year. 86 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: That was such a cool year and he was such 87 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: a big part of that. 88 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Maturing off the field man, he became a father, he 89 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: became a husband, like he has really been able to grow. 90 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: He understands the game at a high level. I think 91 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: he's a little underappreciated from. 92 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: That aspect of his game. 93 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: We were able to have really good dialogue, which only 94 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: helps being on the field and having communication and his 95 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: leadership goes, you know, without saying so, it was easy. 96 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: To have those dialogues. 97 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just being able to have honest conversations, 98 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: like we had some real hard at times honest conversations 99 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: that allowed us to in times of crisis be. 100 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: Okay right, in times of adversity, have real fluid. 101 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: Conversations because it gets heated. You know, Bakes yelled at me. 102 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: I was okay with that. You know, we had a 103 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: good conversation. 104 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: We moved on. But you know, every relationship is different, and. 105 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: I think that's what's important is you learned something from 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, from Jared Goff, from all these guys in 107 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: Baker to be able to take for these relationships moving forward. 108 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: In your draft process kind of in a truncated start 109 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: point here. 110 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Have you noticed anything about the way, if there's a. 111 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: Way that James has packed a lot of information into 112 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: that truncated area. 113 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look at the buckets, right, We've 114 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: really kind of started to put players in buckets, and 115 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: it's each round has too so we're able to have 116 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: enough buckets there where it's not too much, but we 117 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: do have enough on the board now also merging you know, 118 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: all right, players that were off their board in LA 119 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: that maybe we have to have conversations about here. It's 120 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: been so organized The way he kind of has things 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: is like a call sheet, like an offensive or defensive coaches. 122 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Call sheet, not your typical draft. 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Board, if you will, So it's easier for me to 124 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: read and understand, which I think is really cool. He's 125 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: a coach's kid, so he wants to do things that way, 126 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: which I really appreciate. 127 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: About of your staff as a first time that coach. 128 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: What did you learned putting his staff together? 129 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Or shoot, yeah, that's a great one, Sarah. That was 130 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: probably what took up the most of my time early on. 131 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: That you you're ready for because you have a board, right, 132 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: a coach's depth chart that you've been kind of creating 133 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: over time, right over the years of doing this, you're 134 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: banking them and then finally getting them on paper. 135 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: Well, you don't just get the pick them. It's not 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: the draft. You have to go get them. And so 137 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: now you're recruiting against. 138 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Another coach and multiple maybe the other places, college, NFL families. 139 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: Everything you have to sell. You're back in recruiting mode. 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: So hey, it was just in college not too long ago. 141 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: Gott in a mode real quick and we were rolling. 142 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean that was the hardest part though, was getting 143 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: on those calls. 144 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: Being able to recruit two AM on the West coast 145 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: zooms it was a lot. 146 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: It was a lot, but man, it really pleased with 147 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: the staff we were able to put together and that 148 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: was the most stressful part though from Sean. 149 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Well, how would you describe him as a recruiter. 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: And what did you learn from Sean about the people 151 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: he surrounded himself within. 152 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: La Yeah, people that were you know, really when I 153 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: walked into that building in two twenty eighteen, I had 154 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: never felt anything like that before. Just the continuity, the positivity, 155 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: the true like, man, hey, how are you like? It 156 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: actually meant really meant something. I just felt like he 157 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: stepped in that building was truly himself every single day. 158 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: That was something I've really learned last year was I 159 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: wasn't trying to be somebody else. 160 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: That was really just trying to be myself. And everybody 161 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: does that. 162 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: Good things typically happen and you build good relationships, and 163 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: that's what he's always done. You have a real conversation 164 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: with Sean McVay every time you guys see to interact, 165 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: and I think that that's what ultimately makes him a 166 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: great recruiter and surrounds him with unbelievable people. 167 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 168 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: I think we are. I mean, if you look at 169 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: the way we set things up, like there is I 170 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: don't want to say a succession, but it's it's built 171 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: for people to elevate and grow. Like that's what we want. 172 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: We want to win games right now for the Jacksonville Jaguars. 173 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: That's priority number one for these coaches. 174 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: But I'd be silly not to say that. I want 175 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: them to, you know, develop and evolve and grow. That's 176 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the goal. 177 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Like I want these guys to be able to go 178 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: off and be successful. That means we did something right. 179 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: But for right now, their focus is on uh, you know, 180 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: winning games for the Jacksonville Jaguars and that. Man, I've 181 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: been really happy with their flowing. Anthony Campinelli is a 182 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: first time defensive coordinator. I went and sat in a 183 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: defensive staff room and that was being run like the 184 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: players run there. It was he was making a call. 185 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: The defensive staff is going all right. I got I 186 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: got the cloud, I got the flat, I got the 187 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: hook curl and it's like pup, pup up. 188 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shoot, it was moving. It was good. 189 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: So really impressed. You know, some of them are in 190 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: good situations. 191 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: But when I come to this, hey, man, Like you know, 192 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: I was able to go to the rams and learn 193 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: what I thought was like getting my PhD in coaching. 194 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not Shawn, and this is a version of 195 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: that place. Right. 196 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: But maybe if you haven't been in this system or 197 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: been a part of it from you know, whether you're 198 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: more in it, you know, you just haven't had. 199 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: An experience of working under one of these coaches yet. 200 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Hey, come just be bold, man, like, come do something different, 201 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: Like come be a part of something that may not 202 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: be what you're used to. And you know, Jacksonville doesn't hurt. 203 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: Being this, you know, tax free state doesn't hurt. But 204 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: really it's part of starting something new and truly, like 205 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: I'm really saying, is like build it the way you 206 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: want to be able to build it. Do things that 207 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: you know are hard. It's gonna be hard, but uh, 208 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: that's what's the fun part. 209 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 6: Well, we'll talk about the learning curve for you making 210 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 6: that transition from offensive coordinator the head coach, and also 211 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: what does a typical day look like for you in 212 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 6: the offseason? 213 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Man, that's I just got to ask that question. It's 214 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a really good one. No, No, it's a great one. 215 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: I really do because you're as in oc you're managing Okay, 216 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: you know ten coaches, players, a little bit of staffing, 217 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: but not you know, that's basically about it. Now there's 218 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: other parts to it, and you just it keeps adding up, 219 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: right with defense, special teams, a little bit of the 220 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: situations outside. 221 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: But that's the beautiful way of how we structure this. 222 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: With myself, James Tony BISSELLI, I'm able to truly focus on. 223 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: The staff like that's it. Like I don't keep the 224 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: main thing the main thing. I'm a football coach. James 225 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: does personnel. 226 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Tony is able to help with so much of the 227 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: support staff and communication. So yeah, the I'm his double. 228 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: I haven't done a lot of ball, but it's been 229 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: really cool. I think with the players coming in soon 230 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: be able to do a little bit more. But a 231 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: normal day right now starts with about you know, six 232 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: am that they have a schedule for me every day 233 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: and then I go in with James for the rest 234 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: of the day. 235 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: So that's where we've been at right now. What wasn't 236 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: about your one year what you wanted to bring with me? Okay, 237 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, you get in there and. 238 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: They had struggled to run the football for a few years, right, 239 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: and he had been the center of that, and that 240 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: was not something he was just like, you know, ecstatic about, 241 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: right he had he he took that personal. He was 242 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: really one of the voices in that room that I 243 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: thought stood out all the way through and consistent as 244 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: a leader and as somebody that does things the right way, 245 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: communicates at a high level, and when he does get 246 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: on the field, plays his ass off and that's what 247 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: he's done. So, you know, and obviously worked with Robert 248 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: for the last year, really feel strongly about his leadership, 249 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: the communication, and when he played for us this year 250 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: against the Saints, go and watch that tape and you 251 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: could see he. 252 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: Was playing to prove it, right. He was playing to say, man, 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is how I play. 254 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: It didn't work out for him this year ends up 255 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, grand barr And wins the job and plays. 256 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: But how he mentored that situation in that relationship while 257 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: also communicating to the rest of the offense, that was really. 258 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Why we ended up wanting to go and do that. 259 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: I'm want to defend out help trembling center already known 260 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: the audience. 261 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's both those guys, as I mentioned with him 262 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: and Luke, having a version of the system is. 263 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Going to help those guys, especially Trevor. But we can't 264 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: use it as a crutch though, right. 265 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna have to dive in, learn it at a 266 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: high level and commit to it. But obviously having that 267 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: relationship and that communication will help out for sure. 268 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: You've talked about dark You've talked about the willingness to 269 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: adapt to maybe change the scheme for the Why even 270 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: when and where did you sort of learn that willingness 271 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: or or the importance of that willingness and how do 272 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: how do you see the players maybe responding. 273 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: To the Yeah, I don't know. 274 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: He's always like my dad, even like as a kid, 275 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: they were in the wing t so we had like 276 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of different skill players right on the field 277 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: at once. He might not be just a wide out 278 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: right or just the tight end or just a running back. 279 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Was three different skill players that ultimately can do different things. 280 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: And so when you watch that growing up and you 281 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: see the usage of it, I ays. 282 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Was impressed by the misdirection. 283 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Of the wing tea and how everything looked the same 284 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: but ended up different. And then I get to the 285 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: rams and I hear the exact word of the illusion 286 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: of complexity. Hey, same plays, but we're making them just 287 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: look different. So it was already in my mind from 288 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: what I saw growing up. 289 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: And so then you're able to apply it a little bit. 290 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 2: And especially at the college level, you know, you know, 291 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: you've got to be able to adjust to the players, 292 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: right because they're. 293 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Both their capacity and what they can handle physically. 294 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: And then obviously in LA in twenty two we lose 295 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: every olignment and have a million injuries, and we still 296 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: had to compete, guys. 297 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I know, we didn't win, but we still had it. 298 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: And so that was a fun experience, although not the 299 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: best year in my life. 300 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: How some players sort of like respond to that willingness 301 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: to adapt to change all that I think. 302 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I think every coach does try to 303 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: do that right at some capacity. 304 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: I think you know what I mean. 305 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: But I felt last year, you know that those guys 306 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: were pretty bought in, you know, early on, right when 307 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: just the way that maybe you introduced the system, the 308 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: way that you incrementally put it in. 309 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: And show them the why. I'm not just telling you 310 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: what's black and white. 311 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: I want them to know the why I want them 312 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: to then ask me about the why I do. Now 313 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: there's a certain point where hey, guys, this is the 314 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: way where we're doing things. 315 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: You still have to have that, but I want the inclusion. 316 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to hear Mike Evans tell me how to 317 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: he runs that route, so that not just me I 318 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: can learn, but the other guys in the room can 319 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: learn as well, and it creates better dialogue. 320 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: What is the time? Need to a finer go faster? 321 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: There's a man, a guy like this? You I out 322 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: of there? Yeah, I think you know. We've talked about 323 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: in tangibly risk, like really good. 324 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Football players is what we're trying to find. I mean, 325 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: that's guys that truly love and live playing football right 326 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: to that extent, right, we want them to be both 327 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough. Those are things that are gonna 328 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: be kind of non negotiables for us when it comes 329 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: down to it. 330 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: The rest man, fast, strong, long, Like. 331 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: We're not even trying to use those adjectives or you know, 332 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: those words in this whole deal. We're really just trying 333 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: to say, like do we want them or not? Like 334 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: do we want the player or not? Do we want 335 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: to coach this player or not try to keep it 336 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: there and then be able to get into it so 337 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough guys that love to play that ultimately, man, 338 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: they're they're just loving to compete, you know, coming from 339 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: maybe some good programs that have. 340 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: Won, that know how to do things, that do things right. 341 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Felt like that was something in Tampa last year that 342 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: really helped that rookie class. 343 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: They all came from really good programs to help them 344 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: get onboard pretty pretty quickly. 345 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Players with this where are they walking into legative energy? 346 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's the first thing when we're really trying 347 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: to place is just feel guys like this is good stuff. 348 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: It's great to be back. We're doing football. Guys. How 349 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: many of us get to do this? 350 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: We we get an opportunity to do this every single day. 351 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: There's so many that don't. And so how are we 352 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: going to approach this thing? I think they'll walk into 353 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: that kind of feeling and you know. 354 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: We'll meet. 355 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: We'll just do meetings obviously throughout phase one, introducing our 356 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: systems while we at the same time start to introduce 357 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: our culture, the way that we're going to be, the 358 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: way the way we're going to talk to each other, 359 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: the way that we're going to communicate with each other, 360 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: how we're going to treat one another. That'll go hand 361 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: in hand with the systems. 362 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: Can you rams overhaul their team building strategy to overhaul 363 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: through the draft, specifically James being the strategies when you 364 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: reconnected with him, How is he different. 365 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: From what you get for? Man, it's not like that 366 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: was the thing. Like James and I weren't just like 367 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: we weren't like homies, you know, like we work together. 368 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: He was leading always the undrafted free agent process after 369 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: the draft, and he's spearheaded it like he talked. 370 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: He was the guy communicating to both the coaches and the. 371 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: Scouting department, right, that was what he did. He was 372 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: in charge of it and led it. And I was like, man, 373 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: this dude's impressive. 374 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, like this isn't easy to communicate. 375 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Bullets things are flying in that moment and he's able 376 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: to keep his head so cool, communicate at a high level. 377 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: And then man, go back in twenty two and he's 378 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: now doing that with the draft and he's really hand 379 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: in hand with Less and working with Sean and those 380 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: guys in that process. 381 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: That. 382 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, Okay that that happened quickly, and man, 383 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: his just ability to communicate with all walks of life 384 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: is really cool and his organizational skills have helped me 385 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: out tremendously. 386 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: He turns up stuff the team and going into Shawn's environment. Yeah, 387 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't would you every time there? And how are 388 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: you trying to hear that? It's a great one. Gary. 389 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Like I remember being in my third or fourth month 390 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: working for Sean and I'm just drawing. I'm a drawer, right, 391 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm just like here drawing plays, trying not to deal, 392 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: just getting away, and uh, he comes by my office 393 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: one day. 394 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: At like six pm. I'm just I'm just studying. 395 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: It's the off season, and uh, he walks by my office, 396 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: comes in and it's like, hey, man, just really want to. 397 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: You're doing a great job, and I appreciate you being here. 398 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm really happy you're here. 399 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: And that was out and I was like, oh, okay, 400 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: you can be told you're doing a good job in 401 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: this sport because all the other places I'd meant and 402 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: how I had grown up. 403 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you just do what you're told when 404 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you're told, and you don't do it because somebody said, 405 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: good job. 406 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: You do it just because you're a coach and you're 407 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: just you're a little bit more of a soldier mentality 408 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: that it was just a different feeling that you're like, oh, okay, 409 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: it's okay to. 410 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: Tell guys, hey, man, I love you. It's okay to 411 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: open up and be actually a human being too. 412 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: And so that was always the culture where you felt like, man, 413 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: all right, I have to be at a high level 414 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: while i'm here, but man, I can be myself. 415 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about energy and when they come back. 416 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: But what's the key just sustaining that it's not just. 417 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's just incrementally inputting the culture. So it's 418 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: not just man culture overload day one, when you're like 419 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: as a player and coach and staff, it's like, man, 420 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: that was way too much, Like this is a lot, hey, 421 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: incrementally really just man, because it's it's culture, is how 422 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: we truly just are, how we talk to each other, 423 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: how we hang out with each other, the way we 424 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: hold meetings and gatherings together. So it's just incrementally, let's 425 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: have these conversations about trying to do more of this 426 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: instead of this right at the end of the day, 427 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: how do we connect closer? And you know, players, you 428 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: have to show them, you truly have to lay. Let's 429 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: show them examples of what we. 430 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: Want this to look like. 431 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: I remember Harvard did a study a few years ago 432 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: on the Boston Celtics and the Lakers on the power 433 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: of touch. You know, when you shoot a free throw 434 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: and every single dude right you see them all dat 435 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: people up in the basketball world. The power touch is 436 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: so huge in terms of the best teams that year 437 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: that touched the most in terms of the connection, the 438 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: high fives, all that stuff. There's the Lakers and the Celtics, 439 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: the best teams in the league, and so there's a 440 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: whole study about it. I thought was interesting because it's 441 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: like man, for us to actually be connected, we've got. 442 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: To be able to high five and man, celebrate and 443 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: have a good time together. That's what we're trying to do. 444 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about what stages sport. 445 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Now, how would this early stage can you build what 446 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: Trevor this early stage, how are. 447 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: You able to build or haven't been able to build? 448 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: The truck has some. 449 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: Really good conversations, you know, and not being able to 450 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: work with them quite yet. But man, we had went 451 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: out to dinner a few times and I saw the 452 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: vision talk to a guy that I know right off 453 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: the bat is physically and mentally tough. 454 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I believe that about going and so that's how I'm 455 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: excited to work with him about it. He's open. He 456 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: just wants to play at the highest level as he can. 457 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: He just he wants to accept as much as coach. 458 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: He wants to be coached hard, and he wants to 459 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: do well. So those are the great conversations that he's open, 460 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: he wants to work, and he's been willing to work. 461 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: H really excited about those. 462 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Is going forward. We were talking earlier about from the 463 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: follow up year you were looking forward and it wasn't. 464 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 7: Necessarily out you know, a certain physical template because one 465 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 7: of your free agency. 466 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Does he kind of fit into that undersized he seems competitive, Yeah, I. 467 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: Mean Jordan lewis Man broke my heart last year. We're 468 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: going down to win and take the lead against Dallas. 469 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: Last year, we throw a kind of a post to 470 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan. It looks like we've got it. 471 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna take the leader at least I at that 472 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: point and j Mack has. 473 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: It, Jordan takes it out at the last minute and 474 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: ends up being an interception for a touchback, and you're 475 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: just like, man, that's who he is. 476 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: That's the way he competes. It's too and through the whistle. 477 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: Like those guys that do it like that at a 478 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: high level and are able to communicate as well at 479 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: a high level, those are the guys that we're trying 480 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: to bring in. 481 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: He's completely what we were looking for and really excited 482 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: to have him. 483 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: When you're talking about the culture and recruiting players, we're 484 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: a big thing is guys wanting to play for Sean. 485 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 5: Are there any examples you have or just that you 486 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 5: saw regents come in and say like, yeah, this is 487 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: the guy that. 488 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: I want to play with. 489 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you look obviously it's probably clear 490 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: to look at Robert, you know, coming from Tampa, but 491 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: like just to follow up maybe and here the way 492 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: that he was able to communicate some of that you 493 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: saw maybe bleed into some of like you know with 494 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Patrick McCarry, some of our conversations Diamie Brown, some of 495 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: those conversations what we just had with Jordan Lewis, Like 496 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: you know, those were open and honest really quickly, and 497 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: you feel guys that did want to be a part 498 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: of change. And ultimately that's cool where you're able to 499 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: have those relationships at other places with people they talk 500 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: like those guys talk BT talk to Mike Evans like 501 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: they talk. So at the end of the day, like, 502 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: that's what you want, that's gonna help you. 503 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I want those players to go call those. 504 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: Guys in Tampa and see what they'd said. You know, 505 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: it's only gonna help out how much going off I 506 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: think that's you know, yes, physical is a mass and 507 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: size issue, but it's also a mentality. It's also uh, 508 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: the way it's coached, the way it's taught, the way 509 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: it's pret So I'm kind of gonna hold on evaluating 510 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: that part. 511 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: So I think we got competition in depth. Absolutely. 512 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: I think we got some good, sound, solid players that 513 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: are gonna help elevate that floor. But let's go wait 514 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: and see what it truly looks like when we actually 515 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: go and compete and and do things the way we're 516 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: gonna do. 517 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: We added a bunch to the offense, Yeah, I think. 518 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: Old familiar looking to add some competition in there. We've 519 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: got some really good players down there. I think, you know, 520 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: we've got three first rounders right on our defensive line currently, so, uh, 521 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: three guys that are gonna have some good years hopefully 522 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: they're hoping, you know, elevate that room and we'll continue. 523 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: To evaluate it. 524 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, absolutely you're looking to add definitely somebody 525 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: to the dealer. However, that thing plays out inside. 526 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Or outside. 527 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 7: Conversations with Trevor and he's frustrated with his inconsistent hungry 528 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 7: Like how would you modify his mentality four. 529 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Years in year? 530 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think pretty mellow in a good way though, 531 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, you feel a sense of urgency from 532 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: him without it sounding like a panic, you know. 533 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he he knows. He's confident, man. He loves 534 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: to play. He doesn't want to be hurt. He doesn't 535 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: want to be not in the game like that. That 536 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: means a lot to him. 537 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: And so when you start there and that's the floor 538 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: of the conversations, man, you feel so good about where 539 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna go because it's honest, you can feel it 540 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: from him. So, uh, he's hungry though, I would say 541 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: that for sure, he's putting in time right now on 542 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: his own without any sort of a he's doing it 543 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: on his own, maybe twice a day right now, doing 544 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: stuff to help him get better. I think the fans 545 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: should know, like that's that's this guy's work ethic, that's 546 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: the way he does things. 547 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting better. 548 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: He's throwing a little bit and and you know he'll 549 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: be able to get going in the spring and be 550 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: able to throw a little bit more. 551 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: But man, he's getting better and better each deck He'll. 552 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I mean some of it's just okay, 553 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: getting used to two plays. They did a good amount 554 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: of it last year, but it more in the past 555 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: game at times. But it's more just getting used to, 556 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: like almost that's just being a normal rhythm and routine 557 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: of how we kind of operate. 558 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just repetition, man, It's just a 559 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: ton of repetition. 560 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: Once you're able to visualize the formation's motions things like that, 561 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: that's when it becomes so much easier to call it 562 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: to where you can start to visualize it, it won't 563 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: happen for a little while. We had a little bit 564 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: of a bridge in Tampa with Dave Canalis running a 565 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: version of this system helped that bridge. 566 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were going in completely putting in 567 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: something new. 568 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: This may be a little bit more that way, just 569 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: because it was a different it was a similar system, right, 570 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: they did similar so many players with the same guys, Right, 571 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: it's just what we call them and getting through that 572 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: way we kind of. 573 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: And Britain plays the game the right way. I'll say 574 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: that for sure. I love the way he competes. 575 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: Through the whistle, right, he does it through the whistle, 576 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: plays with an edge, He's got some. 577 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Twitch, he's strong, he's got to get his hands on 578 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: in the blocking. I really appreciate it. 579 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he'll elevate just by alone getting more reps 580 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: and getting them on the Field's a good thing for 581 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: and you can tell he's hungry, wants to continue to 582 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: get better and showed some really nice things last year, 583 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: especially after the catch, doing some nice things and break 584 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: and tackles and get extra yards. 585 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: And Christian Kirk just what's the challenge there now for 586 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 3: you guys to get to that level. 587 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: Again and to move forward? 588 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, always hard letting go of good football players. Man, 589 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: have a ton of respect for both of those guys. 590 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: You know, I'd done some really good things here that 591 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: those were not easy decisions and ultimately hate to let 592 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: go of good football players. But you know, production right, 593 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: those guys did have a good amount of targets, receptions, 594 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: you know, some critical plays in different moments of different years. 595 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: So there's some chemistry, some camaraderie there. I'm sure that 596 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: we have to, you know, continue to work on. 597 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: But I think you saw what BT and Trevor were 598 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: able to do last year, and then obviously with some 599 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: of the guys in Parker Washington had a great connection 600 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: and you start to. 601 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: See some of these guys evolve. 602 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: We're like, okay, you know, this allows us to do 603 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: some different things within our roster structure and feel confident 604 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: about where it's going moving forward. 605 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 8: And minutes their coach Thompson drug free Agency, you all 606 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: picked up. So what you see in me and with 607 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 8: kind of leg you. 608 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you look at somebody that's able to 609 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: attack the field at all three levels. He can go 610 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: down the field on the post and the go and 611 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: the pylons and be the top shelf. But also you 612 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: can throw him a screen and you can go and 613 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: do something with him, right, Like I can't coach that. 614 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: I can't coach you to go and make three people 615 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: miss after you've caught the ball. We could try I'll 616 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: teach the synops of the porch and open field, running, sideline, 617 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: stiff arm. But at the end of the day, we're 618 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: getting the play, so you can go beat you with 619 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: the ball in your hands. And that's what he can do, 620 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: hopefully be able to help us at all three levels. 621 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: And he's hungry. You know, he's coming off of a 622 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: successful end of the year. He wants to continue to 623 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: do that. And uh, you know that's been what's been 624 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: fun about having those conversations with him. Coach. 625 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 6: Usually your wife and your sons are getting settled in 626 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 6: the Jacksonville area. What are some of the tourist attracts 627 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 6: from the restaurants or fun things to do that you've discovered. 628 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean we've gone out to plant of these 629 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: a number of times out there. 630 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: I went to V's Pizza a few times. My son 631 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: Pepperoni and cheese feets is his favorite, So we're there 632 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: a few times. I have been there already a number 633 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: of times. But it's been it's cool to just get around. 634 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: You can tell you can feel people do love football 635 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: in the area. You know, you can feel that, like 636 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: going out to go get breakfast, going out to you know, 637 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: get coffee, Like you can feel people and that's really cool, right, 638 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Like ultimately I love like I'm passionate about football and 639 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: if you are too, that's cool with me and I 640 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: appreciate that. 641 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: So I have really enjoyed our time so far. Kids 642 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: aren't my son, Jackson's in school, and and it's going 643 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: well to maybe each tray. 644 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: Off. 645 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean there are any conference. 646 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: Studios, Yeah, We're have an opening conversations and at the 647 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: end of the day we'll we'll continue to have those 648 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: and you know, James and TONI and I will have 649 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: those conversations as we go for sure. 650 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: You. 651 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Got you got. 652 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 653 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: I've had some conversations with Trey, like sounds like he 654 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, We've had a number of hour long conversations where, man, 655 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: I feel a guy that wants to go be great, 656 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: you know that that wants to continue to take the 657 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: next step and dominate. 658 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: I could feel that from him. 659 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: Sounds like a guy that just wants to work, does 660 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: things the right way. So I'm excited about working with him. 661 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Man, He's He's really been pleasant to talk to him.