Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the podcast everybody, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1: Got ant man with me. Yeah, always good to see you.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 1: We are answering questions from people, and you were actually
Speaker 1: produced this show, and so you're the one fielding a
Speaker 1: lot of these questions. If anyone wants to ask something,
Speaker 1: you email podcast at grangersmith dot com and we'll get
Speaker 1: to it and put it in the queue. And it
Speaker 1: could be about anything. And I like to say that
Speaker 1: we answer as though we're just riding down the road
Speaker 1: on a road trip in the truck and you say,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I've been thinking about lately?
Speaker 1: Can I run something by you? And that's how we answer,
Speaker 1: And I say it in that way because usually we don't.
Speaker 1: We're not thinking about this for days. These questions I
Speaker 1: have here literally i've not even ever I've never seen
Speaker 1: them in my life. I haven't even read them at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just trusting that you're not giving me something I
Speaker 1: can't handle well.
Speaker 2: And I pick them to hear your answers to be honest,
Speaker 2: and a lot of times and then now like oh
Speaker 2: well now you have to you have to come up
Speaker 2: with a little something too. Anthem.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, because you're in on this too, I
Speaker 1: might just say I don't know, defaulting to you. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: but what I want to talk about first, it's not
Speaker 1: one of these questions. It was a It was a post. Now,
Speaker 1: every morning I post a Bible verse from my morning
Speaker 1: reading something that sticks out to me in some way, interesting,
Speaker 1: catches my attention, thought provoking, encouraging for me, rebuking for me.
Speaker 1: Those are all the reasons I might post something. And
Speaker 1: then most of the time I'll say a little caption
Speaker 1: with it, and it's just a thought with the Bible verse, commentary,
Speaker 1: little commentary. So this week I did one that said
Speaker 1: how does God show his love to you? And I
Speaker 1: think maybe that'll be the title of this video. God
Speaker 1: may not show his love to you in the way
Speaker 1: that you think he does something like that, because then
Speaker 1: I went on to say one specific way, and that
Speaker 1: way is in first John for nine.
Speaker 2: This is fascinating.
Speaker 1: It says, hang on, I'm not even gonna say what
Speaker 1: it says. I'm not gonna go to first round four
Speaker 1: nine yet. Instead, I'm gonna tell you what. People replied with,
Speaker 1: oh okay, as if they didn't read it, And that's
Speaker 1: not a knock on them. It's just more of an
Speaker 1: awareness that I don't think people are completely seeing what
Speaker 1: I'm saying all the time, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not either.
Speaker 1: But once again, the question is how does God show
Speaker 1: his love to you. That's a question that I'm putting
Speaker 1: out to people listening right now, and you could kind
Speaker 1: of be answering in your mind. How does Scott shows
Speaker 1: left to you? The Bible says how he does. But
Speaker 1: be thinking right now, because here's here's what one person
Speaker 1: said instantly on my Instagram. They replied, quote so many
Speaker 1: ways one special way, and showing his is showing us
Speaker 1: his wonderful world. I've seen a large butterfly chasing a
Speaker 1: hummingbird away from an and cathos bush, also a young
Speaker 1: dove when trying to land do a somersault. The list
Speaker 1: goes on and on and on. That was from Instagram.
Speaker 1: I got one today on X and it says I'm
Speaker 1: working in an emergency school today doing HVACT work, and
Speaker 1: while waiting to get a door unlocked, a line of
Speaker 1: children were walking by with their teacher, and a child
Speaker 1: that's a complete stranger just stepped out of line to
Speaker 1: just to say hello to me and give me a hug.
Speaker 1: Smile once again. These are two I got many, many,
Speaker 1: many many on social media, people answering how does God
Speaker 1: show his love to you? And they're all saying these
Speaker 1: ways that are God's grace. But the Bible is going
Speaker 1: to tell us that he specifically shows his love in
Speaker 1: one way. And it's fascinating. If we don't catch this,
Speaker 1: if we don't get this, we're in a lot of
Speaker 1: trouble because before we're reconciled to God, we're enemies to him. Sure,
Speaker 1: we cannot please him. In fact, the only we get
Speaker 1: oxygen and we get a beat in our heart, and
Speaker 1: we get rain on the crops, and we get sunshine
Speaker 1: on our skin only by common grace. But he's withholding
Speaker 1: his judgment. I mean, that's just a common graceful mercy
Speaker 1: that he has on us now while he's withholding judgment
Speaker 1: that he will unleash and judgment day because he is
Speaker 1: not happy with the rejection of him. And so there
Speaker 1: is only one way to be united with him, to
Speaker 1: be reconciled to him, to be brought to him, meaning
Speaker 1: there's only one way he could love you. First John
Speaker 1: four nine, in this the love of God was made
Speaker 1: manifest among us, that God sent his only son into
Speaker 1: the world that we might live through him.
Speaker 2: And this is love.
Speaker 1: Not that we have loved God, but that He loved
Speaker 1: us and sent his son to be the propituation or
Speaker 1: the substitute for our sins. This is fascinating and it's
Speaker 1: the gospel. Let me read the whole little perkipe here,
Speaker 1: which is the whole little paragraph. Beloved, let us love
Speaker 1: one another, for love is from God. And whoever it
Speaker 1: loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone
Speaker 1: who is does not love does not know God. Because
Speaker 1: God is love. And this is the love of God
Speaker 1: made manifest among us, that God sent his only son
Speaker 1: into the world that we might live through him. God
Speaker 1: loves us through his son Jesus. He sin his son.
Speaker 1: When we have rebelled against him, we have rejected him,
Speaker 1: we have turned our backs on him. We have seen
Speaker 1: God in things of this earth, and things that are
Speaker 1: made by human hands, and things that we have made idols,
Speaker 1: including our children and our spouses, and our careers and
Speaker 1: our dreams and our hopes and our jobs, and all
Speaker 1: the things that we have around us. And the butterflies
Speaker 1: in the air and the dove doing somersaults, and we say, look,
Speaker 1: there's God, and God goes. You are rejecting me unless
Speaker 1: you receive my son, who I'm sending to replace your sins,
Speaker 1: to be the substitute or the words is propituation in
Speaker 1: the Bible, to become a substitute for you. That he
Speaker 1: died on the cross so that I could be just,
Speaker 1: and I could put my anger and my wrath onto
Speaker 1: him so that he could take your place. And that's
Speaker 1: how I show love to you through the sun that
Speaker 1: went way over everybody's head. That's why I wanted to
Speaker 1: do it on this podcast because even to me, I
Speaker 1: read that, I read that in my morning reading, and
Speaker 1: I go, oh, thank you God for your son and
Speaker 1: because of the sun, because we're reconciled to God, because
Speaker 1: we could have peace with God in that way, then
Speaker 1: we could look at the dove doing somersaults. Then we
Speaker 1: could look at the little kid that comes up and
Speaker 1: hugs us, and then we could love outwardly toward the
Speaker 1: world as an overflow that we were loved first. And
Speaker 1: if we don't have the sun, then seeing the dove
Speaker 1: do somersaults is only a temporary love that we'll have,
Speaker 1: but it will go away.
Speaker 2: And there's only I mean, because we're only saved by him.
Speaker 2: He loved us while we were sinners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Romans five eight. He loved us while we
Speaker 1: were still sinners. Christ died for us. So that is
Speaker 1: it is interesting that no one and once again I'm
Speaker 1: not this is not a blame thing, but no one
Speaker 1: replied and said, because of Jesus. That's how I know
Speaker 1: I'm loved by God, because he sent his son to
Speaker 1: die in my place, the death that I should have died.
Speaker 2: No one said that I should have replied.
Speaker 1: And technically I put the answer in the question. Here's
Speaker 1: my whole post. I said, how does God show his
Speaker 1: love to you one specific way? In this the love
Speaker 1: of God has made manifest among us. That God sent
Speaker 1: his only son into the world that we might live
Speaker 1: through him verse John four to nine.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating stuff, yeah, it really is. And simple too,
Speaker 2: sometimes so simple that it's hard, like, oh, we got
Speaker 2: to complicate this up a little bit, and it can't
Speaker 2: be as simple as one man doing, you know, carrying
Speaker 2: the burden of everybody's everybody include me. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it needs to be a little bit more than that,
Speaker 2: and we all to speak from me. I cloud that
Speaker 2: up and have for so long. Oh, it's got to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more. Maybe there's a little more
Speaker 2: that I need to do. The more I read, the
Speaker 2: more that that gets deduced. Okay, it's a little note.
Speaker 2: It's less. That's right again again, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's one thing that's right.
Speaker 1: I would encourage anybody to go read first John chapter five.
Speaker 1: It's pretty short, it's pretty simple. It's it's it is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Chapter four. It is.
Speaker 1: Known as being the love chapter.
Speaker 2: God is love, which is.
Speaker 1: Typically, typically and wrongly, the only way that he's known
Speaker 1: to some people.
Speaker 2: What is God to you? They say love, which is.
Speaker 1: Amen and correct. But that's not all that he is.
Speaker 1: He's also just. He's also holy. He's also great and
Speaker 1: good and merciful. He's also a God that will judge
Speaker 1: according to his perfect standard, which we all fall short of.
Speaker 2: Boy, I'm reading through, you know, reading through the Bible
Speaker 2: again this year, and right now I'm in He finished
Speaker 2: up Exodus and Leviticus. Often, I don't I don't hear
Speaker 2: a lot of preachers going, hey, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: spend the month of May going through Leviticus. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it's a lot of repetition, it's a lot of rules,
Speaker 2: And if I give up on reading every single word,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine, like how hard it would be to
Speaker 2: have to keep up with every single thing that you
Speaker 2: have to do. If you if you have a sore
Speaker 2: on your arm, here's everything that you need to do
Speaker 2: to make sure that you're clean. Yeah, can you do it? Yeah? No, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And for anyone listening right now, for anyone listening to go,
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't like when Granger talks like that.
Speaker 1: It starts to sound like that old fire and brimstone stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, why can't we just say first, John four
Speaker 1: is about God is love. God is Love, And I say, okay,
Speaker 1: listen to this. This is in the same chapter. By this,
Speaker 1: it says, by this is Love perfected with us, so
Speaker 1: that we may have confidence for the day of judgment
Speaker 1: because as he is also, because as he is, so
Speaker 1: also are we in this world. So basically he's saying,
Speaker 1: you have confidence in the day of judgment because if
Speaker 1: you're in Christ, he sees you as perfect because he
Speaker 1: sees the sun and you're in the Sun, and you
Speaker 1: and the Sun are united in that relationship. And how
Speaker 1: do you say, how do you do that? Well, he
Speaker 1: says verse thirteen, And this we know that we abide
Speaker 1: in him, and he is in us, because he has
Speaker 1: given us his spirit. And we have seen and testified
Speaker 1: that the Father has sent the son to be to
Speaker 1: be the savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus
Speaker 1: is the son of God, God abides in him, and
Speaker 1: he and God. It's all right here. This is just
Speaker 1: one chapter of many beautiful chapters in the Bible. But
Speaker 1: first John chapter four. I'd invite anyone just to look
Speaker 1: through that and see so that you could finally answer,
Speaker 1: how does God love you one specific way?
Speaker 2: The understanding of judgment that he does do that, that
Speaker 2: God does judge, God has this fury only amplifies the
Speaker 2: love even more.
Speaker 1: It does because he certainly didn't have to no.
Speaker 2: No, and makes it for me also, it makes it
Speaker 2: that much more important of Jesus sacrifice. Yeah, and picking
Speaker 2: one way to make atonement, Yeah, this is the this
Speaker 2: is I'm going to make it really easy for you.
Speaker 2: This is the one way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There is another verse about one way that's very famous
Speaker 1: by the same apostle, and that is on three sixteen,
Speaker 1: for God so loved the world that he gave his
Speaker 1: only son, that whoever believes in him shall not.
Speaker 2: Perish, but have eternal life.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting if you think about the implications of
Speaker 1: what that verse, the very famous John three sixteen means.
Speaker 1: It also means that God loved the world so much
Speaker 1: that he gave his only son, but he did not
Speaker 1: love the world enough for you to reject him. And
Speaker 1: that is controversial. People hear that and go, you're adding words, Granger, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not verse seventeen for God to not send his
Speaker 1: son into the world to condemn the world, but in
Speaker 1: order that the world might be saved through him. The
Speaker 1: world was already condemned. You see the world. He didn't
Speaker 1: send Jesus into the world to condemn it because it
Speaker 1: was already condemned. So he sent Jesus into the world
Speaker 1: for one purpose, to reconcile centers back to himself. It's
Speaker 1: so important for us to see these things, and it's
Speaker 1: so important for us to see John three thirty six,
Speaker 1: who says whoever believes in the Son has eternal life.
Speaker 1: Whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life.
Speaker 1: But the wrath of God Rema aims on him, remains
Speaker 1: means it's already on you. It wasn't, it didn't, it
Speaker 1: didn't just get there. The wrath of God remains on
Speaker 1: you if you don't have the Sun to save you
Speaker 1: from this world, because the world's already condemned. God so
Speaker 1: loved the world he gave his only son. He did
Speaker 1: not He did not love the world enough for you
Speaker 1: to reject the sun. That's all right here, and all
Speaker 1: the implications of John three and John first, John four, Ah,
Speaker 1: it's just like reading to the Bible is like just
Speaker 1: unlocking treasure after treasure after treasure, and it becomes clear
Speaker 1: and clear, and then you start seeing the world has
Speaker 1: distorted these ideas for so long so that we could
Speaker 1: be just happy and content in our disobedience.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, yeah, I'm fine where I am.
Speaker 1: I'm fine where I am. God loves me. I know God,
Speaker 1: I know all this, I'm doing all these wrong things.
Speaker 1: I know that I've rejected God. But I just saw
Speaker 1: today a dove do a summersault, and that reminded me
Speaker 1: God loves me.
Speaker 2: That scary stuff that is scary, and maybe even I'll
Speaker 2: be honest, maybe even more scary than the actual wrath itself.
Speaker 2: Not knowing, you know, being misled and that that is coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not knowing, not knowing that it's coming. Even
Speaker 1: though you heard this. If you're listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: right now, you're already you're already in trouble because now
Speaker 1: you have been you know, you know you've heard it.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't face judgment and go I didn't know,
Speaker 1: He'll say, Granger Smith podcast episode you Reward. You were
Speaker 1: told man, and Granger told you that day. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is fascinating stuff. Once again, this is this is the
Speaker 1: reason I didn't even say the names of the people
Speaker 1: on this social media. It is just because I once
Speaker 1: was that. I can't say that enough. This isn't something
Speaker 1: I was born with. I just knew the gospel. I
Speaker 1: went for a long time in the wilderness not knowing
Speaker 1: these things. And most of you that listened to this podcasts,
Speaker 1: a lot of you knew me before then, So you
Speaker 1: knew the Granger that rejected God, that said that he
Speaker 1: knew him, that acted like I was a Christian on
Speaker 1: the through my mouth, but it was it wasn't in
Speaker 1: my heart. It was just lip service. Nothing in my
Speaker 1: actions reflected that. So when I say, hey, you people
Speaker 1: you're saying this, just just know the presupposition to that
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Speaker 1: for me, email podcast at grangersmith dot com. We'll put
Speaker 1: it in the queue. Ant Man has some prepped and
Speaker 1: ready to go right here. This first question comes from Tristan.
Speaker 1: It says, Hey, Grainger, my name is Tristan, and I
Speaker 1: want your advice on what I should do. I'm in
Speaker 1: high school right now, but the intentions we have is
Speaker 1: to stay together for the long run. This is a relationship.
Speaker 2: It's not a girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, the girl. It's very beautiful and makes me happy,
Speaker 1: but our religious belief don't align. She believes in Mormonism. Well,
Speaker 1: I am a Baptist Christian and I do not think
Speaker 1: the teaching of Mormonism is true. I would like for
Speaker 1: me and this girl to have a relationship based around God,
Speaker 1: but that would be difficult considering we have different beliefs.
Speaker 1: I'm planning on talking to this girl for a while.
Speaker 1: I plan on talking to this girl for a while,
Speaker 1: but I think about what will happen if we have
Speaker 1: a future together. Thanks for your advice. Okay, Tristan, great question,
Speaker 1: and you're not alone. This is something I see quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Actually, I have a good friend right now
Speaker 1: who has a son in this situation. He went to
Speaker 1: school in Salt Lake City and met a girl, fell
Speaker 1: in love, and then sorted recognizing that they had a
Speaker 1: different what LEDs Church calls it Christianity, So they have
Speaker 1: this boy realized they had a different vers urson as
Speaker 1: they had some conversations. So what do you do, Tristan.
Speaker 1: I think we could do an entire podcast on this.
Speaker 1: We could do a five minute answer to this, which
Speaker 1: one are you? We could dig deep on this. We
Speaker 1: could focus on the LDS Church, or we can focus
Speaker 1: on whatever your beliefs are, the Baptist Church. Tristan, I believe,
Speaker 1: I believe we should probably take a light stroke to
Speaker 1: this because, like I said, it could be an entire episode.
Speaker 1: It is now twenty twenty. We talked about this last
Speaker 1: week on the podcast. The great thing about living in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty is that things ideas could no longer be
Speaker 1: hidden like they used to be.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, back to COVID. That's why I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're on the podcast. It's twenty twenty four. I thought
Speaker 2: you were going back in time.
Speaker 1: It's now twenty twenty for thank you. If you weren't here,
Speaker 1: I would just keep going. The good thing about living
Speaker 1: now in this modern age, I should just leave it
Speaker 1: at that is that we have the ability to fact
Speaker 1: check and to cross reference, and to look at things
Speaker 1: that aren't protected. What you and I have talked about
Speaker 1: this with Islam is that Islam is no longer protected by.
Speaker 2: The walls of the mosque. That used to be.
Speaker 1: Ideas and doctrine stayed within the walls of the mosque.
Speaker 1: And now with modern technology and modern communication, is these
Speaker 1: ideas get outside of the walls. People could then go
Speaker 1: fact check, and then people could actually see for themselves.
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, I don't think that's historical. And
Speaker 1: so these questions arise, and it arises in Productism, it
Speaker 1: rises in Catholicism, in the LDS Church, it arises in
Speaker 1: every organized religion in a good way. So as as
Speaker 1: a Protestant, I want to make clear that I say
Speaker 1: bring on all your doubts, bring on all your conspiracies,
Speaker 1: bring on all your skepticism. I love it. I love that.
Speaker 1: I don't feel offended by it. If someone says anything
Speaker 1: about my church. I'm from the Southern Baptist denomination. That's
Speaker 1: where I'm That's where I align as far as Baptism
Speaker 1: and church membership and and are are the Protestant ideals
Speaker 1: that But that that doesn't mean. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: I only believe in the Baptist idea. I think, I
Speaker 1: think the Presbyterians have great ideas outside of Baptism. I
Speaker 1: think I think there are many other schools of thought.
Speaker 1: I love the Calvary Church out on the West coast
Speaker 1: of the US and the ideas a lot of the
Speaker 1: ideas that they have. But that doesn't mean I have
Speaker 1: to align with all of them except for the four
Speaker 1: main ones. And the four main ones are Number One,
Speaker 1: God exists and is revealed in the Bible clearly as Father, Son,
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit in the Three Persons, One Being. It is
Speaker 1: evidenced throughout sixty six books that God exists as three persons,
Speaker 1: one being, one mind, one purpose, and that there is
Speaker 1: only one God, and that God created all things, and
Speaker 1: Jesus was not created, which brings to point number two. Jesus,
Speaker 1: the personhood and godhood of him, the divinity and humanity
Speaker 1: of him. He was not created. Colossian says, he was
Speaker 1: before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Speaker 2: He was not created.
Speaker 1: He's always existed in pre existence with the Father and
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit. And then the third truth is that
Speaker 1: the Bible is an ert We talked about this last week,
Speaker 1: that the Bible does have newer translations, but those translations
Speaker 1: are always being derived from from the original Greek or Hebrew.
Speaker 1: And so we go back to the old ancient manuscripts
Speaker 1: that we have and we put those together, and we
Speaker 1: collect them from all different regions from the third century
Speaker 1: are the fourth century is what we have a lot
Speaker 1: of them from right now. And then we have fragments
Speaker 1: all the way back to the first century. And then
Speaker 1: we have fragments in all of antiquity, over twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand of them. We put them together and we analyze them,
Speaker 1: and the result is modern translations that are derived from
Speaker 1: the Greek, not from the game of telephone, not from
Speaker 1: man that changed it, not from Constantine that put that
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan said he put together Constantine put together the canon. No, no,
Speaker 1: the council, and I see no, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: this is not creedism. I think, as some people say,
Speaker 1: these ideas is if we read the early Church fathers
Speaker 1: were always there. They're a foundation that we're always there.
Speaker 1: And we look all the way back to the apostle
Speaker 1: John teaching these things that there was not a great apostasy,
Speaker 1: these great ideas were not lost. And it is shocking,
Speaker 1: and it is a miracle to read a modern translation
Speaker 1: now and then cross reference that with a fragment that
Speaker 1: you see in a museum of the Bible century and go, wow, amazing,
Speaker 1: that is still intact. And what the reason I say
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is so amazing is because we have
Speaker 1: translations right on our phone. We could we could literally
Speaker 1: translate the Greek from our phone and go back and
Speaker 1: look at these ancient scripts and we don't have to
Speaker 1: rely on some monk or some scribe to hold the
Speaker 1: keys to us understanding where this came from. The fourth
Speaker 1: truth is that we are saved by grace through faith,
Speaker 1: and that it's not our own doing. And this is
Speaker 1: not based on our own good works. Our own good
Speaker 1: works are dirty rags to him, and we're saved by
Speaker 1: as we talked about in the first section of this podcast,
Speaker 1: the propituation or the sacrifice, this substitute of Jesus dying
Speaker 1: for sins. So if we believe we're saved by faith,
Speaker 1: if we believe that Jesus is God and Man, if
Speaker 1: we believe that the Bible is in ert, and we
Speaker 1: believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit live together
Speaker 1: in the Trinity as God and One being three persons,
Speaker 1: that we're trinity was derived later the to help to
Speaker 1: try to best describe what we see throughout the Bible,
Speaker 1: like in John one and the beginning was the Word,
Speaker 1: and the Word was with God, and the Word was God,
Speaker 1: and the Word became flesh. We see all these ideas,
Speaker 1: and someone said, hey, we need to call this something,
Speaker 1: And someone.
Speaker 2: Said, how about trinity?
Speaker 1: And that's that's a good enough idea so that if
Speaker 1: anyone wants to question any of that, it doesn't offend me.
Speaker 1: I don't get upset. I don't I don't lose my mind.
Speaker 1: I say, I say, great, let's talk about this more.
Speaker 1: Because that dives me deeper into history, deeper into this,
Speaker 1: to the scriptures, deeper into prayer deeper into fellowship with
Speaker 1: other believers, and so it builds faith to to step
Speaker 1: out into the unknown into something that I might worry
Speaker 1: about or worry about a certain doctrine. If it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense, please comment below, email me tear me apart.
Speaker 1: If you're mad at the the Islam, comment tear me apart.
Speaker 1: And I've read the Quran, I've read the Book of Mormon,
Speaker 1: I've read the apocrypha, and so if you have any
Speaker 1: questions about this stuff, please send them my way, and
Speaker 1: let's talk about them as a brotherhoods, as fellow image
Speaker 1: bearers of God. Let's have good conversations about these things
Speaker 1: because it's so important. And I will never be angry
Speaker 1: with you, and I'll never be feel condemned by you,
Speaker 1: and I'll never feel judged by you if you question
Speaker 1: anything in my faith. That's a pretty good foundation for
Speaker 1: what I want to say to Tristan. There, Tristan, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you just want to hook up with this girl.
Speaker 2: He's a high school boy.
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like that, and that might not
Speaker 1: be true, but you said I plan on talking to
Speaker 1: this girl for a while. But I cannot but wonder
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. If we have a future together, well,
Speaker 1: it's going to be very, very, very difficult. I've seen
Speaker 1: it play out. If she you might think that maybe
Speaker 1: she converts to being a Protestant. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say Christian because LDS says we are Christians, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of words that kind of get borrowed back
Speaker 1: and forth, but they're not the same words, and so
Speaker 1: I'll try to avoid those words. Maybe she converts to
Speaker 1: being a Baptist. I'll say that the Lord could do that,
Speaker 1: and the Lord could show great mercy in doing that,
Speaker 1: but he also might not. And if he doesn't, you're.
Speaker 2: Get a lot of trouble. I do wonder, and he'd
Speaker 2: obviously in this email he can't. It'd be a long
Speaker 2: email divulging more information, you know, that might help this
Speaker 2: conversation about her. Is she right now? Is she questioning
Speaker 2: how she grew up? I know that from experience from
Speaker 2: people that I know that the boy was Christian, the girl,
Speaker 2: our family was Mormon, but she rejected a lot of
Speaker 2: all of that and they made a new life together
Speaker 2: in the faith, and and they're great. But she questioned
Speaker 2: it from you know, when she became old enough to
Speaker 2: I would say, be saved. She was also been going
Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with all this and
Speaker 2: moved out.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a great point, and it's absolutely possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and whoever, this girl, whatever this girl's name is, she
Speaker 1: might be thinking the same thing for trustan into the.
Speaker 2: LDS absolutely, and both.
Speaker 1: Of those perspectives, whether he converts to LDS or she
Speaker 1: converts to once again, we'll call it Baptist to keep safe,
Speaker 1: keep keep the terms safe instead of saying Christian. Both
Speaker 1: of those odds are are are low and difficult, and
Speaker 1: are are great if they're a friend or a neighbor.
Speaker 1: You want a neighbor to convert like this. But when
Speaker 1: you're talking about a relationship where you could potentially have
Speaker 1: children involved, and the way that you're going to get married,
Speaker 1: and that the way that your in laws are going
Speaker 1: to be able to come together and have fellowship together
Speaker 1: during Thanksgiving or Fourth of July, it becomes almost unbearably
Speaker 1: too difficult to last. And you see divorces happen through this.
Speaker 1: You see families turning their back, completely turning their back
Speaker 1: on the couple. You see Grandma will no longer talk
Speaker 1: to you anymore. You see just unbelievable heartache ahead. And
Speaker 1: so with all that in mind, you say, hey, is
Speaker 1: it smart Tristan that you're saying I plan on talking
Speaker 1: to this girl for a while, or should you protect
Speaker 1: your heart and say, before I let before I let
Speaker 1: these feelings get too strong, I should protect myself and
Speaker 1: I should pull back a little bit. And it's not
Speaker 1: too much to say, hey, the religion is separating us
Speaker 1: as a couple. It's not it's not smart.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: A good having good intellectual sense to say love wins all,
Speaker 1: even religious boundaries. Yeah, why do you think there's fifty
Speaker 1: percent divorce in the country right now because the people
Speaker 1: said love will win all and then it didn't. Right,
Speaker 1: we can go back to where love, how God loves us,
Speaker 1: and that that directly hits the heart of this topic.
Speaker 2: Once again.
Speaker 1: I could just stop there, or I could just keep going.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, I I think you've you've
Speaker 2: without more information from him, I think you've hit you know,
Speaker 2: a great point there, because and it does you brought
Speaker 2: up the rest of the family too. We're only talking
Speaker 2: about the two of them, and and he's only asking
Speaker 2: about the two of them and probably not even thinking
Speaker 2: about the rest of this when you get older. If
Speaker 2: you decided to move down this lane. Now you're dealing
Speaker 2: with in laws on both sides, and Christmases and Thanksgivings
Speaker 2: and things that just don't align and don't agree. And
Speaker 2: you know, issues with children as they come up. Who's
Speaker 2: going to raise what kid? How you know that's you
Speaker 2: think that now, that's not something that's going to be
Speaker 2: a big deal. It's the deal that destroys marriages when
Speaker 2: you get down the line, because you like, we're at
Speaker 2: an impasse. What do we do?
Speaker 1: This needs to be said, Tristan. Your third sentence says
Speaker 1: she is This girl is very beautiful and she makes
Speaker 1: me happy. I promise those two things will fade. Yes,
Speaker 1: she will not always be beautiful in the flesh, and
Speaker 1: then she will not always make you happy. So those
Speaker 1: two things are trivial.
Speaker 2: What do you fall back on where you do align?
Speaker 2: You're already you're if you're explaining this in a different,
Speaker 2: different situation. You have to address the foundation first. You
Speaker 2: can't continue to build a home on a foundation that's
Speaker 2: not secure, and you can't be halfway done with the
Speaker 2: house and continue building it when you know, the foundation
Speaker 2: is falling. You've got to secure the foundation.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if Jesus said something just like interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's let's go to the next question.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think we did pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2: That eail.
Speaker 1: That's the pickup truck conversation. That's you're riding on the
Speaker 1: cabinet truck. Next one's Anonymous. It says, me and my
Speaker 1: best friend like the same girl. I try to talk
Speaker 1: to him about it, but it could be really hard
Speaker 1: to talk to. But he could be really hard to
Speaker 1: talk to. All three of us went to school together
Speaker 1: and we hang out a good bit. We also go
Speaker 1: to church together. However, I'm scared if one of us
Speaker 1: makes a move, it could affect me and my friend's relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose such a close friend. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the pod, God bless Anonymous. Okay, this sounds young.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, and I didn't realize that both of
Speaker 2: those were probably young. But I realized that it was
Speaker 2: a little heavier and then a little lighter. Yeah, let
Speaker 2: me put these together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, you know, I remember these days.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: This is about eighth grade. Okay, this is like eighth
Speaker 1: grade thing like about fourteen. It's like, well, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about when it first starts. Yeah, sure, when it first starts.
Speaker 1: It's like fourteen years old. Like we found out we
Speaker 1: both like the same girl.
Speaker 2: Oh man, dude, well we're gonna be buddies anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, just saying it, yeah, just saying it that way.
Speaker 1: Let me put it this way to anonymous the girl.
Speaker 1: You might both like the same girl, but she won't
Speaker 1: like both of you. She's only gonna like one you
Speaker 1: or none of you, but not both of you at
Speaker 1: the same time equally. So you're putting so much pressure
Speaker 1: on one of you two as if you would be
Speaker 1: the one to ruin the friendship. It's if the first
Speaker 1: one that goes to her gets the prize, and that's
Speaker 1: just not the case. Like I said, either none of
Speaker 1: you are going to get her, or maybe one of you,
Speaker 1: but not both.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: This is difficult. In eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade,
Speaker 1: eleventh grade, it's difficult. But sometimes in this situation, you
Speaker 1: got to talk to each other like, man, I really
Speaker 1: like this girl. I really like her too. What are
Speaker 1: we going to do about this? This is called human communication? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you know we want to still be friends, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How much do we still want to be friends?
Speaker 2: I mean a lot.
Speaker 1: We're bros, right, Okay? And maybe we should like look
Speaker 1: for other girls. Yeah, maybe we should both of us
Speaker 1: not go after this girl. How much you want to
Speaker 1: be a friend anonymous, that's your answer will be telling,
Speaker 1: And how much you want to be friends with this girl?
Speaker 1: You can't both be with her, so you should both
Speaker 1: decide to not be with her, or you're not really
Speaker 1: that great a friend. I would I would do that.
Speaker 1: I would have a conversation and then maybe your friend
Speaker 1: that you don't know this, but maybe you'll say, Man,
Speaker 1: me and you be and bros matters more to me
Speaker 1: than a girl. And if I say something that might
Speaker 1: offend you because I'm trying to impress this girl, that
Speaker 1: would hurt me and hurt our friendship. So I just
Speaker 1: want to tell you I want to sit down and
Speaker 1: have this conversation that I'm deciding I'm gonna stay away
Speaker 1: from her, and he might in that situation go you
Speaker 1: know what, man, it's not that big. She's not that
Speaker 1: big a deal to me. Just talk to her, go
Speaker 1: on a date with her. It doesn't bother me, and
Speaker 1: then you might be like, oh, okay, problems solved.
Speaker 2: It is good practice for bigger conversations later in life.
Speaker 2: That's a good point one of these, because it's I mean,
Speaker 2: the outcome is not it's not major. It's a you know,
Speaker 2: whether you go out with this girl or how old
Speaker 2: are they? We don't even know that, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's good practice for conflict and how to walk through
Speaker 2: that or a potential conflict in the future.
Speaker 1: It is. And if you don't have this conversation, you
Speaker 1: are right anonymous in thinking that if you guys both
Speaker 1: agree to go after her and she picks one and
Speaker 1: you didn't have a good, healthy conversation, it will ruin
Speaker 1: the friendship.
Speaker 2: It will be awkward.
Speaker 1: There is no way you could be with your buddy
Speaker 1: if you really like the girl and you see him
Speaker 1: with his arm around her watching top Gun Mavericks. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. Make the decision now, similar to
Speaker 1: the other conversation with Tristan, don't let your heart get
Speaker 1: too far before you make these good, foundational kind of decisions,
Speaker 1: because once you start building that house and it's too
Speaker 1: late and the foundation's bad, it's going to crumble and
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose everything.
Speaker 2: Good advice, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna end there. Okay, I think this
Speaker 1: is a good We have a lot to chew on,
Speaker 1: and I want everyone to kind of think about First
Speaker 1: John four and think about church history, and think about
Speaker 1: the inerity of the Bible, and think about their best
Speaker 1: friend before they go and stab him in the back
Speaker 1: and talk to the girl that he likes. I think
Speaker 1: we got a lot to think about. If you have
Speaker 1: another question for me, email podcast at grangersmith dot com
Speaker 1: and dude, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Of course, see y'all next Mornday. He thanks for joining
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