WEBVTT - Don't Be A Jerk. That'd Be My Rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and get taking enough he.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty absolutely clear.

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<v Speaker 3>The US Supreme Court has already had led a charitable organization,

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<v Speaker 3>including specifically, a university can lose its tax exem status

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<v Speaker 3>if they are violating fundamental policy. That was Bob Jones

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<v Speaker 3>University versus the US in nineteen eighty three. They lost

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<v Speaker 3>their tax exem status because their racist, discriminatory policies were

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<v Speaker 3>contrary to a compelling governmental interest and to public policy.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard has said they will not comply with what the

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<v Speaker 3>federal government says they need to as it relates to

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<v Speaker 3>enforcing non discrimination policies. Of course, they can lose their

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<v Speaker 3>federal exempt tax status. I've read through the letter that

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<v Speaker 3>the task force sent to Harvard, and all they're asking

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<v Speaker 3>is to come up with solutions to its own problems.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fellow by the name of Mark a

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<v Speaker 1>gold Feeder, Goldfetter. He's a professor. He's obviously of a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative bent. He may be the only conservative professor in

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<v Speaker 1>America apparently, which is part of the reason we got

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<v Speaker 1>to where we are the Trump administration versus Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>One more news clip and then we will discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>These universities are titled and they will not stop this

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<v Speaker 3>behavior on their own court. The only thing they seem

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<v Speaker 3>to respond to is financial incentive. That seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>the only lever that we can pull to stop the

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<v Speaker 3>racist and anti submitic conduct on their canvases.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would tend to agree with his point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>How to affect the change is where the devil is

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<v Speaker 1>in the details.

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<v Speaker 2>Super interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask a very broad question before you get

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<v Speaker 4>into the details or the intricacies, and that's where you

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<v Speaker 4>always end up with, you know, the law, but on

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<v Speaker 4>a very broad level, just like a macro level, why

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<v Speaker 4>are we giving so many federals to these universities at all?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like particularly like the Harvard's and the princes

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<v Speaker 4>of the world that have endowments of billions and billions

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars? And how much money does that generate every year?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, with the investments and everything like that. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>why aren't they funding themselves?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly do we just.

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<v Speaker 1>The brief answer to that before we get to question too,

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<v Speaker 1>is we're paying them to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do research when research wekendds and why can't did your

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<v Speaker 4>research with their own money because.

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<v Speaker 1>It benefits we the people. I'm not arguing in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of that point of view. That would be the answer anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I know that's what people would say, But I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't understand that you've got billions of billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's enough.

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<v Speaker 4>People that believe in Harvard and the work you do

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<v Speaker 4>that have donated enough money over the years, and part

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<v Speaker 4>of what you do is research.

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<v Speaker 2>Then spend your own damn money on research.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't quite understand why the federal government has

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<v Speaker 4>to give them money. If there is a reason I

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand, feel free to text or email. Then if

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<v Speaker 4>you are going to give a bunch of the money,

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<v Speaker 4>do we think it's okay that you know, an administration

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<v Speaker 4>comes in and it doesn't have to be like a

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<v Speaker 4>specific you're not allowing like at UCLA where they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>letting Jewish kids go to the library or whatever, even

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<v Speaker 4>not a specific thing like on that. The current administration

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<v Speaker 4>just doesn't like the politics of the college. Why do

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<v Speaker 4>you have to give them the money? Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 4>Why wouldn't it swing back and forth administration by administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you made the point earlier, and it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>one that when the shoe is on the other foot.

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<v Speaker 1>The Biden administration, Obama, you name, the Democratic administrations through

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<v Speaker 1>the years absolutely insisted on the universities towing the line

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<v Speaker 1>of progressive policies and to the point that they were

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<v Speaker 1>a huge aid in the journey of American universities to

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<v Speaker 1>the far far left where they are right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it didn't become an issue because all the universities

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<v Speaker 4>are so far left and agree with what the Democratic

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<v Speaker 4>administrations were wanting them to do. You didn't hear anything

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<v Speaker 4>about it like share will make DII part of her thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We love that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, certainly a lot of Marxists have been on

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<v Speaker 1>university campuses forever and they were more than in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But yes, it's an unholy alliance. So I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't decide whether to end with this thought or to

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<v Speaker 1>frame the discussion with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're making this up as we go, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw it out right now, you know me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe, as I said yesterday, our universities, our colleges and

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<v Speaker 1>universities really education K through PhD level is so horribly

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<v Speaker 1>infected with anti Western civilization, anti American activists. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>only real threat to the health and safety of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. I think it is a virulent infection coursing

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<v Speaker 1>through our veins that could kill us.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly think that could be too late.

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<v Speaker 1>If we teach generation after generation to despise the country

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<v Speaker 1>and the principles on which is it's founded, how.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that experiment going to end? You suppose?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope maybe what's good about America will cure the

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<v Speaker 1>disease of what's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, you can't crank.

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<v Speaker 1>Out your young people generation after generation hating ourselves anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the way I want to frame this. This

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me so much of the great conundrum of democracies.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned about this first.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly looking at democracies in the Middle East, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get democracies up and going in some cases, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is and the United States is a decent enough example too,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can just use our country.

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<v Speaker 2>We have freedom of speech. You can advocate.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever ideas you want, no matter how repugnant, except for

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<v Speaker 1>the violent overthrow of the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Overturning the constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>You can advocate voting the constitution owut, but can't advocate the.

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<v Speaker 2>Violent overthrow.

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<v Speaker 1>That free speech protect a party, for instance, and read

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<v Speaker 1>Hullaback is that his name? Who wrote submission about Islam

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<v Speaker 1>and France? That freedom speech protects a fundamentalist Muslim party

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to institute Sharia law across America And dontry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get back to the college in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So you say, well, our principles are you get to

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<v Speaker 1>run your Sharia law party because we there are sacred

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<v Speaker 1>founding principles and we will not violate them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as those people get elected, they end all

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<v Speaker 1>of the sacred founding principles and decrease Suria law. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the great conundrum of democracies. Do you protect those

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<v Speaker 1>who would end everything you hold deer because you hold

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<v Speaker 1>protecting them deer?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, it's the it's the it's the problem with the

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<v Speaker 4>whole coexist bumper sticker. One of those symbols on there

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to coexist with the rest of the symbols.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and would slit its throat all of their throats, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to get supremacy. So how exactly you're going to co

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<v Speaker 1>exist again anyway. The reason I brought all this up

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<v Speaker 1>is the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which remains, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty staunchly conservative. I don't agree with them all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're big piece today is Donald Trump tries to

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<v Speaker 1>run Harvard. Many of his demands on the school exceed

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<v Speaker 1>his power under the Constitution, and so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the coin. You have now these

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<v Speaker 1>elite universities. I almost want to vomit when I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>these elite universities who are totally ideologically captured by those

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<v Speaker 1>who would end Western civilization. So when we the saying

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to fix that problem, can we, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>have what the Trump administration is is decreeing there has

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<v Speaker 1>to be viewpoint diversity, which they don't define. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal ask, does this mean English to departments

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<v Speaker 1>must hire more Republican faculty or Shakespeare's scholars. If a

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<v Speaker 1>monitor finds insufficient diversity, however you want to define it,

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<v Speaker 1>the university must hire quote a critical massive new faculty

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<v Speaker 1>within the department or the field who will provide that diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>and admit a critical massive students who will provide the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So to Harvard have applicants have to say whether they

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<v Speaker 1>support Trump or not, or impose ideological quotas in hiring

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<v Speaker 1>and admissions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The trouble with this, I think is just you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you can write out a recipe for

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<v Speaker 4>a cultural change. I just I don't think it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And then enforce it at the end of the government's

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<v Speaker 1>gun or their finance gun.

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<v Speaker 2>And trust me, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not rushing towards some sort of Let the universities

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever they want. Because they are claiming we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have academic freedom. They're violating our academic freedom. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no effing academic freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're mad about, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that culturally it got to a point where

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<v Speaker 4>these elite universities are all one extreme side of politics

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<v Speaker 4>is so culturally weird and not in step with the

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<v Speaker 4>country and bad for the country. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you write out a list of

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<v Speaker 4>rules to fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, ride and they say the Trump team is shooting

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<v Speaker 1>first and investigating later, imposing these new rules. Uh, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would suggest in terms of rules, enforceable. Rules

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<v Speaker 1>don't be a jerk. That'd be my rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be a jerk. Be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>The stuff about anti semitism, enforcing civil rights laws to

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<v Speaker 1>the letter one hundred percent in favor of that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things Trump administration is insisting in no

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<v Speaker 1>masks on demonstrators, Punish kids who violate the rules. These

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<v Speaker 1>are civil rights rules. You can't say, oh, Johnny, now

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<v Speaker 1>come on, stop punching Jews in the face. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to enforce the rules one hundred percent. Legit all

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. Get rid of your DEI programs. They're illegal,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a moral they're unconstitutional. I love all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the faculty diversity thing, I think has got to

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<v Speaker 1>come through growing awareness and social pressure, which is already building.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I said yesterday, I think the damage has

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<v Speaker 4>been done. Lots of employers they see Harvard grad on

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<v Speaker 4>that resume, They're not thinking, yes, a Harvard grad applied.

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<v Speaker 4>They're thinking, uh, oh, what kind of nut job might

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<v Speaker 4>I have here? That's gonna make my workplace very difficult?

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<v Speaker 1>Right start mocking Harvard constantly in Colombian pen and Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>which have lined up to support Harvard, because Harvard, I should.

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<v Speaker 2>Have told you that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I guess it was in that news said no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not agreeing to these conditions Trump administration has asked

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<v Speaker 1>of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I use this example a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Call it Harvard Marx University for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>I use this example a lot because it bothers me

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. But it's been going on for decades. There are,

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<v Speaker 4>at least according to Bloom who's the Yale University. He's

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<v Speaker 4>dead now, but the expert, the biggest expert in America

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<v Speaker 4>in the history of Shakespeare. He was so upset in

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<v Speaker 4>the nineties that there were no Shakespeare classes being taught

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<v Speaker 4>at elite universities, where the whole point was to say,

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, talk about Shakespeare being great and the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest maybe writer in the.

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<v Speaker 2>History of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>They were all Shakespeare and racism Shakespeare, and misogyny Shakespeare,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know this sort of stuff. Class blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was all criticizing Shakespeare for all those things I

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<v Speaker 4>just mentioned, and it bothered him so much. How are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to legislate that out of the colleges? How

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<v Speaker 4>would you prost do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a ridiculous that that is what they teach about Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 4>They teach you to think Shakespeare was bad. If they

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<v Speaker 4>teach Shakespeare at all, well, that's Marxism. All Western civilization

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<v Speaker 4>is bad. Capitalism is bad, Representative democracy is bad. They're

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<v Speaker 4>all freaking Marxists who want to tear down the country.

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<v Speaker 4>But how do you fight the most successfully? If you

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<v Speaker 4>have thoughts? Because this is so important?

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<v Speaker 1>Johnyson email, would you have mail bag at Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty dot com. T you know, make the subject colleges

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<v Speaker 1>and universities or something like that. I want to paw

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<v Speaker 1>through them tonight and tomorrow before the show and search

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<v Speaker 1>out ideas, particularly if you're in education or you have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a well formed opinion in this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to read your thoughts because I'm still working

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<v Speaker 1>on how do we preserve the things we hold dear

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<v Speaker 1>and not empower President AOC to go in and ruin,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, the University of Austin, which is doing such

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<v Speaker 1>great work in academic freedom right now? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>solve this problem without empowering future progressives to ruin any.

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<v Speaker 2>Progress we've made. That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Mail Bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com is our

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<v Speaker 1>email address. Mail Bag at Armstrong and giddy dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff on the ways to hear? Are you strong?

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<v Speaker 5>He Yetdy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for what's this song? And here's the star

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. When what tale the star?

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<v Speaker 1>Up?

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<v Speaker 5>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>Come the mother in law? Can you top this? And

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<v Speaker 2>now from television City in Hollywood, here's your host, Don

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<v Speaker 2>keambit winked Martin dytack account.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll win some heavy cash on headline casers.

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<v Speaker 2>When you play.

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<v Speaker 5>Ke go.

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<v Speaker 2>And here are two good words to get us started.

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<v Speaker 2>A wait, welcome to our show. The country's in debt.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably in debt, but most importantly, our three players, Sue,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary and Heather have come to us with their real

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<v Speaker 1>life debt.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of them just might be lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of it by the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. That's a good premise. Uh wink

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<v Speaker 2>Martindale has died. Whoever? That is a great wink Martindale.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched all.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched a lot of game shows when I was

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<v Speaker 4>a kid because I was sick now and then and

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<v Speaker 4>i'd be Homer in the hospital and I watched all.

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<v Speaker 4>But I can't place Wink Martindale. The name was familiar.

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<v Speaker 4>He was omnipresent. He was, as we just heard, he

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<v Speaker 4>hosted all of them. It was funny when the news

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<v Speaker 4>was brought to us.

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<v Speaker 1>And sorry, we should have told you to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>before I'm plumbing you of the great loss. Executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson behind the scenes says, yeah, we'll a fortune killed gambit.

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<v Speaker 2>He still but hurt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, Hey, that's the creative destruction of capitalism, Hanson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way it goes. They had one of Bold

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<v Speaker 2>not that debt show.

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<v Speaker 1>These three contestants are all miserable because they're so deep

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<v Speaker 1>in debt they.

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<v Speaker 2>Can never dig themselves out of. One of them will

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<v Speaker 2>see that debt better be relieved.

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<v Speaker 4>And the couples that don't win probably a divorce or suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see who wins. Let's play the game. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>that's funny. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So just a quick follow up to the previous segment.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it during the commercial break. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing the Trump administration does that I don't love

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes because I think sometimes it's counterproductive.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do a very elon musky thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They fail fast and learn faster, or in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like the college policy thing, I can picture Trump saying

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<v Speaker 1>look set out a bunch of policies that make them

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<v Speaker 1>come to heal. I know they'll reject them. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be complained about. Let's stir up some dust. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start the discussion. Let's do something other than holding hearings

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<v Speaker 1>for six months. Then some Republican politician makes a grim

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<v Speaker 1>faced speech and no, but he ever thinks about it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's stirs up you know that, Get that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always work.

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<v Speaker 4>You saying that while in the midst of putin tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you name so many different things. Mark Alprin

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<v Speaker 4>writing in his newsletter today, one of the most important

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<v Speaker 4>ways in which Trump defies convention as that he thrives

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<v Speaker 4>by picking the maximum number of fights possible. Most White

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<v Speaker 4>houses would be an overload if they had one tenth

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<v Speaker 4>of the number of simultaneous conflicts that Trump has initiated.

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<v Speaker 4>But Trump personally and the ready for war infrastructure he's

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<v Speaker 4>a arrayed both inside government and outside, are in fact

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<v Speaker 4>built for taking on many, many brawls at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And we won't know until we're looking through the rear

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<v Speaker 2>view mirror how it all works out.

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<v Speaker 4>God, the way his personality and brain works that he

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<v Speaker 4>can be involved in this many skirmishes at one time

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<v Speaker 4>would make most people crazy, and especially at his age. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>old fat guy who eats fast food. Bring it on,

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<v Speaker 4>he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh, they need to study him when he passes, figure

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<v Speaker 2>out his genome or something. No kidding, Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>The authorities are investigating a jewelry store heist in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 6>At least five million dollars in jewelry stole, and police

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<v Speaker 6>say the family owned store was ransacked. Owners say the

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<v Speaker 6>thieves stole jewelry and gold bars knocked out for surveillance cameras.

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<v Speaker 6>Authorities believe thieves broke in right through a wall. The

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<v Speaker 6>owners are offering one hundred thousand dollars in cash reward

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<v Speaker 6>for any information.

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<v Speaker 4>And they stole how many millions of dollars with the stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're still on the loose. I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 4>successful heist so far anyway, going right through the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>That's thinking outside the box, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that reminds me I tweeted out a new video

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<v Speaker 1>of people cleaning out the shelves of a Walgreens in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. Just unbelievable. You two can have this in

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<v Speaker 1>your town. Vote Gavin Newsom. In twenty twenty eight disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Major ruling in Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 4>They're Supreme Court ruled that trans women do not fall

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<v Speaker 4>within the legal definition of women under the country's equality legislation.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a unanimous decision. The Deputy President of the Court,

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<v Speaker 4>Lord Hodge. I can't believe they use the terms lord

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<v Speaker 4>in a democracy, seems how I love it anyway, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>the unanarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the.

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<v Speaker 4>The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms

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<v Speaker 4>woman and sex in the Equality Act of twenty ten

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<v Speaker 4>refer to biological women in biological sex only because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of course they do. I can't believe we had

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss this. He didn't say a king. He meant,

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<v Speaker 4>you know me, I object to the term biological women.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like saying a biological lion. I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>only kind of lion there is. That's It's entirely a

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<v Speaker 4>biological question.

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<v Speaker 2>What is a woman? What is a man? Yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>know it's a biological woman anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the Scottish Parliament, Scots have lost their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be tough and to your climate sucks

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<v Speaker 1>and the food's terrible. You're supposed to be realistic people.

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<v Speaker 1>You invented golf. Anyway, you invented golf. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how that fits into my argument, but it popped

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<v Speaker 1>into my end. But anyway, so a Scotland has gone nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so progressive, but they passed this idiotic law that

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be gender balance on public sector boards.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, and some of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Women who said yes, there ought to be balanced, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who's qualified not or who gets liketed or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have a balance noticed Hey, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of dudes claiming to be women taking

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<v Speaker 1>up the women's slots on these boards. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>worm turned and they said, no, no, no, by women.

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<v Speaker 1>We met women.

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<v Speaker 4>Excellent Shakespeare, drop on a British story, three searchers.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, mister president. So who is this?

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<v Speaker 1>The Women Scotland co founder Susan Smith welcome the court's decision,

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<v Speaker 1>but said the fight was likely to continue. Quote today

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<v Speaker 1>the judges have said what we always believe to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case, that women are protected by their biological sex,

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<v Speaker 1>that sex is real, that women, Oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to actually say that out loud, these are odd times,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if you don't know that men and women

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<v Speaker 1>are different and it's real, you got something wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>you anyway, And that women can now feel that services

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<v Speaker 1>and spaces designated for women are for women. What our

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<v Speaker 1>politicians need to get their heads around this law. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to stop putting faulty guidance into schools and hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's interesting that they did that. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we're ever gonna do a way with all gender

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<v Speaker 4>bathrooms in the United States. I feel like it's here

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<v Speaker 4>to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think you are wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if that prevents lunatic state and lunatic cities from

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<v Speaker 1>letting men into women's private spaces. If that's what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to present as a woman, here's a bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You're not going in the women's locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the solution. Okay, until this madness washes over anyway, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes a tease.

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<v Speaker 2>I have forty year old breaking celebrity marriage news. Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>Christy Brinkley reveals why she left Billy Joel. Full team

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making mine. What the hell face just it's radio,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell. So Katie brought it to this audio.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a galon old school lesbian talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about, that the whole LGB thing has

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly blossomed into like thirteen letters, a half dozen numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and the division symbol or something, and everybody with any

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<v Speaker 1>gripe is supposed to be a grouped together.

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<v Speaker 2>While she's not buying it.

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<v Speaker 5>From an og lesbian, the acronym LGBTQ plus is not

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<v Speaker 5>a representation of a united community for what was once

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<v Speaker 5>a legitimate civil rights movement. Gay rights has been hijacked

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<v Speaker 5>quite literally by the TQ plus and used as a

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<v Speaker 5>trojan horse to mainstream their degeneracy. First we have the

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<v Speaker 5>transcot who want to sterilize children with puberty blockers. Then

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<v Speaker 5>we have the cues young men feminized by sissyporn furries

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<v Speaker 5>and pups who fetishize bestiality, all accepted and protected by

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<v Speaker 5>the rainbow umbrella that magically transforms all scrutiny into bigotry.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing that requires the most scrutiny is the

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<v Speaker 5>unspecified plus at the end, a placeholder for what's coming next, nor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was readophilia yew All was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's what she's hitting up?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I suspect so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know so, but yeah, Uh, minor attracted individuals

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<v Speaker 1>is the new term you're supposed to use for pedophiles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to normalize that too, ma Aismais.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, Katie, just like you just nailed it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to edit it down for time, but she

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<v Speaker 4>kind of alluded to that's what's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>She used terms like you used to hear from you know,

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<v Speaker 4>right wingers about gay marriage degenerously stuff like that. That's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty strong stuff from an og lesbian.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I appreciated from her, uh and and other folks

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<v Speaker 1>like her Gaze against Groomers for instance, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>group that has an online presence, is that she is

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<v Speaker 1>standing up against the horrors of these experiments on children

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<v Speaker 1>with the hormones and puberty blockers and cutting off healthy

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<v Speaker 1>breast tissue because the confused girl thinks he's a boy

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, a cup of coffee. Just all of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and how perverse it is that the gay

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement is being frog marched into supporting that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>when a lot of it is you've got a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>effeminate boy, it's probably gay, and the message is you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gay. You need to be fixed with surgery. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to be Oh you're gonna get with guys, We

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<v Speaker 1>need to cut off your penis and turn you into

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. I mean, can you imagine if a conservative

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<v Speaker 1>group said, Okay, you're a bit of a tomboy, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, off with your breasts and we're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>you a penis because if you want to be a boy,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make you look like a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>What horrific bigotry would that be? And that's that's what

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of gay people are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>They they can't get echoed in the media because the

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<v Speaker 1>media are such frigging morons and such soft heads and such.

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<v Speaker 1>She they think, well lgbtq RMLF over the power of three,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to include all of those. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>great phrase she used was any skepticism is called or

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<v Speaker 1>any What did she say? I can't remember the word,

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<v Speaker 1>but essentially, any skepticism is bigotry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be a huge benefit to society if there

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<v Speaker 4>was a break between the first three letters and the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of those letters. That'd be really good for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I want anybody beat up or demonized or hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, No, of course not. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>dudes whooping up on girls in sports. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>like the social contagion, which is the neo Marxist activist

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<v Speaker 1>around radical gender theory, to get.

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<v Speaker 2>The hell out of schools. That's what I want. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. Where was that? Where's that woman from

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<v Speaker 2>or what is she?

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<v Speaker 1>Brit Clearly if there's more of her, Katie's let's have it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she had it.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's your breaking forty year old celebrity divorce news. As

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<v Speaker 4>it was one of the odd pairings in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of celebrities. I think for some people when the hottest

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<v Speaker 4>woman on the planet at the time, model Christie Brinkley

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<v Speaker 4>weed Billy Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because he was kind of I mean, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>rock star and model thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Could not be more common. I know, they just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look like a couple to me. First of all, she's

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<v Speaker 2>two feet taller. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, I was in music radio at the time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know it was mocked a lot. So she says

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<v Speaker 4>that she left him over his drinking, which I had

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<v Speaker 4>never heard before, and that it was very painful and

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<v Speaker 4>she did not want the marriage to end.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's the hell of a drunk he is, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons I brought it up. He

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<v Speaker 2>is taking it Apparently he's going to take it to

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<v Speaker 2>the end.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's pretty old now, he's you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>crashed into the same house multiple times famously there in

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<v Speaker 4>Long Island, and he ruined a couple of marriages. I

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<v Speaker 4>would have guess over this and just keeps on trying.

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<v Speaker 4>Then maybe I can make it work or something, or

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<v Speaker 4>nobody's gonna tell me to quit or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. But he, you know, he's willing

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<v Speaker 2>to take it to the end. Yeah, maybe you have

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<v Speaker 2>to admire that in some way. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what it's like to be with

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<v Speaker 2>Christy Brinkley.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because a marriage is a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than physical attraction. But if Christy Brinkley says

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<v Speaker 1>you got to rein in the sauce or I'm leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at least gonna give it the old college try.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you think you would think so? Yeah? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>he had it going on there for a while. Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, oh, hit after hit after hit after hit.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's married to Christy Brinkley. Well, he's married to

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<v Speaker 4>an uptown girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you I think the second time you crash

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<v Speaker 4>into the same house, I would think, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I should get a driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he did after that. I don't know. Let's look

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 2>at the other side. You're living in that house.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd wake up to a horrific crashing sound and just say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Billy again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, did the pio?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that?

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Honey, piano man hit it house again? Oh okay, Oh, for.

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<v Speaker 1>God's sake, we just got it fixed, Billy, No kidding, Okay,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we got more of the ways there.

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<v Speaker 7>So when you think about these businesses and a one

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 7>therapy put on them, it's untenable for them. They don't

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 7>have the cash flow, they don't have the access to capital,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's basically locking up production in the toy industry.

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<v Speaker 7>No toys are currently being produced in China, and there

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<v Speaker 7>are reports that major retailers here in the US are

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<v Speaker 7>starting to actually cancel orders.

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<v Speaker 2>So so Christmas is at risk.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a some economic expert on CNN yesterday on the

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<v Speaker 4>lead Christmas is at risk. Toy companies can handle one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and forty five percent tariff. At some point the

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>rubber's going to meet the road on this, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we all were relieved, I guess to find

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<v Speaker 4>out iPhones aren't gonna triple in price.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is all that other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, part of me he wants to urge

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<v Speaker 1>that guy to watch how the Grinch stole Christmas Christmas

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and be reminded that.

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<v Speaker 2>It came.

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<v Speaker 1>It came, It came without boxes and bushels and bags

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. Yeah, Christmas isn't at risk, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about toy retailers, so I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the ready fire aim nature of the tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>is I think going to be counterproductive, although I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to lead to better trade deals. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was pointed out by some learned folks that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a giant, multinational conglomerate with lobbyists and perhaps a

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>tim cook who can pick up the phone and call

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, you get a carve out. But all the

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>mom and pop businesses, all the small manufacturers, they don't.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be you know, shut put out of business

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<v Speaker 1>right because they can't ensure their inputs fast enough.

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<v Speaker 4>A bankrupt which is the main from the right big

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 4>critique of tariffs in general, that it ends up being

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're like creating a reason for people to

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<v Speaker 4>get special treatment or do things to get special.

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<v Speaker 2>Treatment, right, Yeah, it enriches the swamp.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just texting with somebody who said they were

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<v Speaker 4>about to do something, it doesn't matter what, and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>you're brave, Gail King, brave.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that will catch on. It's like, wow,

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you're like Gail King brave there congratulations Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, speaking of economic occurrence and stuff like that, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk of recession because of the tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>and all and how it shakes out. Nobody knows exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what might already be in one of many according to

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>many economists.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I came across this from the Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was kind of a good reminder what

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<v Speaker 1>is a recession and how when will we know if

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<v Speaker 1>we are in one? Now, that common rule of thumb

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<v Speaker 1>is that two consecutive quarters of declining gross product counts

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<v Speaker 1>as as a recession. The last if it's during the

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Biden administration run and that doesn't run out. But the

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<v Speaker 1>GDP is not the criterion used by the National Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>of Economic Research, which is the long standing arbiter of

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<v Speaker 1>US recessions among economists, government officials, policymakers, and news organizations

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>including the Wall Street Journal. The NBR recession dates are

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<v Speaker 1>determined by its prosaically named Quote Business Cycle Dating Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of eight academic economists, some of whom have

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<v Speaker 1>been members of the committee for decades. What they look

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for in order to make a recession call is quote

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across

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<v Speaker 1>the economy and lasts more than a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>Swaperty employment wishywashy, oh, very isshue washing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The main indicators they watch are on our employment, inflation

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>adjusted personal income, real consumer spending, real manufacturing and trade,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>industry sales and industrial production.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's there's a democrat in office. Well yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a little bit of like, that's just your opinion, man.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 4>And I always remember a guy I knew ran his

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 4>own business. He was a very successful a his own business.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was years ago, like mid two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 4>I can remember and him saying we're in a recession,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 4>and we weren't, like officially in a recession, and he

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 4>said we're in a recession, and I was like, wow,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 4>that's interesting that you just said that out loud when

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>you know it hasn't been declared. And in this case,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 4>it ended up being declared the next quarter. He had

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 4>already felt it. But I thought at the time, well,

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<v Speaker 4>even if it's not for the rest of the United States,

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 4>if it is for your industry here, that's all that

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 4>matters to you.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>So this this is kind of a stupid term.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like we always talk about when they

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 4>give you a national real estate to statistics. It's the

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 4>point of that more homes were sold last year than

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 4>this year. Well that's I don't even know if that

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 4>number is useful to anybody, but it's certainly not useful

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 4>to your state, county, neighborhood or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my only argument against that would be that if

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>your policies cause one those policies should be reviewed and criticized. Yeah,

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>so it helps to be able to say, in even

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a semi concrete way, hey, this isn't working, it's hurting

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the economy.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, But yeah, that makes sense, but.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not what the media portrays it to be, some

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of all encompassing It's not a diagnosis with cancer.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just okay, things are not growing, economics or what's

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>going on.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 4>If your industry on the entire West Coast is suffering

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>because of something the weather or whatever, you're in a

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 4>recession every bit as much as if they declared a

0:33:58.760 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 4>national recession.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I'm not sure that term means that much

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 4>to me anymore. What you said makes sense. And again

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 4>they changed the definition of it or went with the

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 4>specific definition of it when it applied to Joe Biden,

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 4>because by the definition we'd all been using our entire

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 4>adult lives, we were in a recession, and they.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want that to be true. Right, yep, what evs?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, and I've lived through I can't even

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 4>tell you how many in my life, ten twelve, I

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know, thirty, I don't even know, which is part

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 4>of my point. They come and go and we're all fine,

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I don't want it to happen, But

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 4>it's not like the end of the world. Well, right,

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>and there have been upsides, like I've gotten used to

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 4>the taste of human flesh. There's been so much cannibalism

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 4>eating the recessions. Yeah, it's an old hat for me.

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the other white meat, as far as I'm concerned

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and reminds me.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 4>I got an update on that New York Times subway

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 4>story that I won't put any more detail on a

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>man who passed away on the subway and then some

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 4>unfortunate things happened.

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, after his passing. You don't know this story.

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Were you here for the story? Maybe you weren't here

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>from the story. Were you not here from the story?

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Was I at the masters? I don't know. You couldn't

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>have forgotten it. No way you forgot this story.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So we'll get through that in hour four, which

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 4>is a good reason to mention that if you don't

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 4>get our four or any segment, get the podcast Armstrong

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:24.920
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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty