Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and get taking enough he.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty absolutely clear.
Speaker 3: The US Supreme Court has already had led a charitable organization,
Speaker 3: including specifically, a university can lose its tax exem status
Speaker 3: if they are violating fundamental policy. That was Bob Jones
Speaker 3: University versus the US in nineteen eighty three. They lost
Speaker 3: their tax exem status because their racist, discriminatory policies were
Speaker 3: contrary to a compelling governmental interest and to public policy.
Speaker 3: Harvard has said they will not comply with what the
Speaker 3: federal government says they need to as it relates to
Speaker 3: enforcing non discrimination policies. Of course, they can lose their
Speaker 3: federal exempt tax status. I've read through the letter that
Speaker 3: the task force sent to Harvard, and all they're asking
Speaker 3: is to come up with solutions to its own problems.
Speaker 1: That is a fellow by the name of Mark a
Speaker 1: gold Feeder, Goldfetter. He's a professor. He's obviously of a
Speaker 1: conservative bent. He may be the only conservative professor in
Speaker 1: America apparently, which is part of the reason we got
Speaker 1: to where we are the Trump administration versus Harvard.
Speaker 2: One more news clip and then we will discuss.
Speaker 3: These universities are titled and they will not stop this
Speaker 3: behavior on their own court. The only thing they seem
Speaker 3: to respond to is financial incentive. That seems to be
Speaker 3: the only lever that we can pull to stop the
Speaker 3: racist and anti submitic conduct on their canvases.
Speaker 1: So I would tend to agree with his point of view.
Speaker 1: How to affect the change is where the devil is
Speaker 1: in the details.
Speaker 2: Super interesting topic.
Speaker 4: Let me ask a very broad question before you get
Speaker 4: into the details or the intricacies, and that's where you
Speaker 4: always end up with, you know, the law, but on
Speaker 4: a very broad level, just like a macro level, why
Speaker 4: are we giving so many federals to these universities at all?
Speaker 4: I mean, like particularly like the Harvard's and the princes
Speaker 4: of the world that have endowments of billions and billions
Speaker 4: of dollars? And how much money does that generate every year?
Speaker 4: You know, with the investments and everything like that. I said,
Speaker 4: why aren't they funding themselves?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: Secondly do we just.
Speaker 1: The brief answer to that before we get to question too,
Speaker 1: is we're paying them to.
Speaker 4: Do research when research wekendds and why can't did your
Speaker 4: research with their own money because.
Speaker 1: It benefits we the people. I'm not arguing in favor
Speaker 1: of that point of view. That would be the answer anyway.
Speaker 4: Well, I know that's what people would say, But I
Speaker 4: just don't understand that you've got billions of billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's enough.
Speaker 4: People that believe in Harvard and the work you do
Speaker 4: that have donated enough money over the years, and part
Speaker 4: of what you do is research.
Speaker 2: Then spend your own damn money on research.
Speaker 4: I just don't quite understand why the federal government has
Speaker 4: to give them money. If there is a reason I
Speaker 4: don't understand, feel free to text or email. Then if
Speaker 4: you are going to give a bunch of the money,
Speaker 4: do we think it's okay that you know, an administration
Speaker 4: comes in and it doesn't have to be like a
Speaker 4: specific you're not allowing like at UCLA where they weren't
Speaker 4: letting Jewish kids go to the library or whatever, even
Speaker 4: not a specific thing like on that. The current administration
Speaker 4: just doesn't like the politics of the college. Why do
Speaker 4: you have to give them the money? Why didn't you
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't it swing back and forth administration by administration.
Speaker 1: Well, you made the point earlier, and it's a good
Speaker 1: one that when the shoe is on the other foot.
Speaker 1: The Biden administration, Obama, you name, the Democratic administrations through
Speaker 1: the years absolutely insisted on the universities towing the line
Speaker 1: of progressive policies and to the point that they were
Speaker 1: a huge aid in the journey of American universities to
Speaker 1: the far far left where they are right now.
Speaker 4: Well, it didn't become an issue because all the universities
Speaker 4: are so far left and agree with what the Democratic
Speaker 4: administrations were wanting them to do. You didn't hear anything
Speaker 4: about it like share will make DII part of her thing.
Speaker 2: We love that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, certainly a lot of Marxists have been on
Speaker 1: university campuses forever and they were more than in favor
Speaker 1: of that. But yes, it's an unholy alliance. So I
Speaker 1: couldn't decide whether to end with this thought or to
Speaker 1: frame the discussion with it.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not.
Speaker 1: We're making this up as we go, So I think
Speaker 1: I'll throw it out right now, you know me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Believe, as I said yesterday, our universities, our colleges and
Speaker 1: universities really education K through PhD level is so horribly
Speaker 1: infected with anti Western civilization, anti American activists. It's the
Speaker 1: only real threat to the health and safety of the
Speaker 1: United States. I think it is a virulent infection coursing
Speaker 1: through our veins that could kill us.
Speaker 2: I honestly think that could be too late.
Speaker 1: If we teach generation after generation to despise the country
Speaker 1: and the principles on which is it's founded, how.
Speaker 2: It's that experiment going to end? You suppose?
Speaker 1: I hope maybe what's good about America will cure the
Speaker 1: disease of what's bad.
Speaker 2: But man, you can't crank.
Speaker 1: Out your young people generation after generation hating ourselves anyway.
Speaker 1: So here's the way I want to frame this. This
Speaker 1: reminds me so much of the great conundrum of democracies.
Speaker 2: And I learned about this first.
Speaker 1: Particularly looking at democracies in the Middle East, trying to
Speaker 1: get democracies up and going in some cases, and that
Speaker 1: is and the United States is a decent enough example too,
Speaker 1: if we can just use our country.
Speaker 2: We have freedom of speech. You can advocate.
Speaker 1: Whatever ideas you want, no matter how repugnant, except for
Speaker 1: the violent overthrow of the government.
Speaker 2: Overturning the constitution.
Speaker 1: You can advocate voting the constitution owut, but can't advocate the.
Speaker 2: Violent overthrow.
Speaker 1: That free speech protect a party, for instance, and read
Speaker 1: Hullaback is that his name? Who wrote submission about Islam
Speaker 1: and France? That freedom speech protects a fundamentalist Muslim party
Speaker 1: who wants to institute Sharia law across America And dontry.
Speaker 2: I'll get back to the college in a minute.
Speaker 1: So you say, well, our principles are you get to
Speaker 1: run your Sharia law party because we there are sacred
Speaker 1: founding principles and we will not violate them. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as those people get elected, they end all
Speaker 1: of the sacred founding principles and decrease Suria law. That
Speaker 1: is the great conundrum of democracies. Do you protect those
Speaker 1: who would end everything you hold deer because you hold
Speaker 1: protecting them deer?
Speaker 4: Right, it's the it's the it's the problem with the
Speaker 4: whole coexist bumper sticker. One of those symbols on there
Speaker 4: doesn't want to coexist with the rest of the symbols.
Speaker 1: Right, and would slit its throat all of their throats, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get supremacy. So how exactly you're going to co
Speaker 1: exist again anyway. The reason I brought all this up
Speaker 1: is the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which remains, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty staunchly conservative. I don't agree with them all the time,
Speaker 1: but they're big piece today is Donald Trump tries to
Speaker 1: run Harvard. Many of his demands on the school exceed
Speaker 1: his power under the Constitution, and so it's kind of
Speaker 1: the other side of the coin. You have now these
Speaker 1: elite universities. I almost want to vomit when I say that,
Speaker 1: these elite universities who are totally ideologically captured by those
Speaker 1: who would end Western civilization. So when we the saying
Speaker 1: are trying to fix that problem, can we, for instance,
Speaker 1: have what the Trump administration is is decreeing there has
Speaker 1: to be viewpoint diversity, which they don't define. And the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal ask, does this mean English to departments
Speaker 1: must hire more Republican faculty or Shakespeare's scholars. If a
Speaker 1: monitor finds insufficient diversity, however you want to define it,
Speaker 1: the university must hire quote a critical massive new faculty
Speaker 1: within the department or the field who will provide that diversity,
Speaker 1: and admit a critical massive students who will provide the same.
Speaker 1: So to Harvard have applicants have to say whether they
Speaker 1: support Trump or not, or impose ideological quotas in hiring
Speaker 1: and admissions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The trouble with this, I think is just you can't.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can write out a recipe for
Speaker 4: a cultural change. I just I don't think it's possible.
Speaker 1: And then enforce it at the end of the government's
Speaker 1: gun or their finance gun.
Speaker 2: And trust me, don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm not rushing towards some sort of Let the universities
Speaker 1: do whatever they want. Because they are claiming we've got
Speaker 1: to have academic freedom. They're violating our academic freedom. There
Speaker 1: is no effing academic freedom.
Speaker 2: That's what we're mad about, right, exactly.
Speaker 4: The fact that culturally it got to a point where
Speaker 4: these elite universities are all one extreme side of politics
Speaker 4: is so culturally weird and not in step with the
Speaker 4: country and bad for the country. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know how you write out a list of
Speaker 4: rules to fix it.
Speaker 1: Well, ride and they say the Trump team is shooting
Speaker 1: first and investigating later, imposing these new rules. Uh, here's
Speaker 1: what I would suggest in terms of rules, enforceable. Rules
Speaker 1: don't be a jerk. That'd be my rule.
Speaker 2: Don't be a jerk. Be nice.
Speaker 1: The stuff about anti semitism, enforcing civil rights laws to
Speaker 1: the letter one hundred percent in favor of that. That's
Speaker 1: one of the things Trump administration is insisting in no
Speaker 1: masks on demonstrators, Punish kids who violate the rules. These
Speaker 1: are civil rights rules. You can't say, oh, Johnny, now
Speaker 1: come on, stop punching Jews in the face. No, you
Speaker 1: have to enforce the rules one hundred percent. Legit all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Get rid of your DEI programs. They're illegal,
Speaker 1: they're a moral they're unconstitutional. I love all of that.
Speaker 1: But the faculty diversity thing, I think has got to
Speaker 1: come through growing awareness and social pressure, which is already building.
Speaker 2: I think, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said yesterday, I think the damage has
Speaker 4: been done. Lots of employers they see Harvard grad on
Speaker 4: that resume, They're not thinking, yes, a Harvard grad applied.
Speaker 4: They're thinking, uh, oh, what kind of nut job might
Speaker 4: I have here? That's gonna make my workplace very difficult?
Speaker 1: Right start mocking Harvard constantly in Colombian pen and Stanford,
Speaker 1: which have lined up to support Harvard, because Harvard, I should.
Speaker 2: Have told you that.
Speaker 1: No, I guess it was in that news said no,
Speaker 1: we're not agreeing to these conditions Trump administration has asked
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: I use this example a lot.
Speaker 1: Call it Harvard Marx University for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4: I use this example a lot because it bothers me
Speaker 4: a lot. But it's been going on for decades. There are,
Speaker 4: at least according to Bloom who's the Yale University. He's
Speaker 4: dead now, but the expert, the biggest expert in America
Speaker 4: in the history of Shakespeare. He was so upset in
Speaker 4: the nineties that there were no Shakespeare classes being taught
Speaker 4: at elite universities, where the whole point was to say,
Speaker 4: just you know, talk about Shakespeare being great and the
Speaker 4: greatest maybe writer in the.
Speaker 2: History of the world.
Speaker 4: They were all Shakespeare and racism Shakespeare, and misogyny Shakespeare,
Speaker 4: and you know this sort of stuff. Class blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: It was all criticizing Shakespeare for all those things I
Speaker 4: just mentioned, and it bothered him so much. How are
Speaker 4: you going to legislate that out of the colleges? How
Speaker 4: would you prost do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: It's a ridiculous that that is what they teach about Shakespeare.
Speaker 4: They teach you to think Shakespeare was bad. If they
Speaker 4: teach Shakespeare at all, well, that's Marxism. All Western civilization
Speaker 4: is bad. Capitalism is bad, Representative democracy is bad. They're
Speaker 4: all freaking Marxists who want to tear down the country.
Speaker 4: But how do you fight the most successfully? If you
Speaker 4: have thoughts? Because this is so important?
Speaker 1: Johnyson email, would you have mail bag at Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getty dot com. T you know, make the subject colleges
Speaker 1: and universities or something like that. I want to paw
Speaker 1: through them tonight and tomorrow before the show and search
Speaker 1: out ideas, particularly if you're in education or you have,
Speaker 1: you know, a well formed opinion in this stuff. I
Speaker 1: would love to read your thoughts because I'm still working
Speaker 1: on how do we preserve the things we hold dear
Speaker 1: and not empower President AOC to go in and ruin,
Speaker 1: for instance, the University of Austin, which is doing such
Speaker 1: great work in academic freedom right now? How do we
Speaker 1: solve this problem without empowering future progressives to ruin any.
Speaker 2: Progress we've made. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: Mail Bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com is our
Speaker 1: email address. Mail Bag at Armstrong and giddy dot com.
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Speaker 1: So just a quick follow up to the previous segment.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it during the commercial break. And
Speaker 1: one thing the Trump administration does that I don't love
Speaker 1: sometimes because I think sometimes it's counterproductive.
Speaker 2: But they do a very elon musky thing.
Speaker 1: They fail fast and learn faster, or in terms of
Speaker 1: like the college policy thing, I can picture Trump saying
Speaker 1: look set out a bunch of policies that make them
Speaker 1: come to heal. I know they'll reject them. I know
Speaker 1: they'll be complained about. Let's stir up some dust. Let's
Speaker 1: start the discussion. Let's do something other than holding hearings
Speaker 1: for six months. Then some Republican politician makes a grim
Speaker 1: faced speech and no, but he ever thinks about it again.
Speaker 1: Let's stirs up you know that, Get that that doesn't
Speaker 1: always work.
Speaker 4: You saying that while in the midst of putin tariffs.
Speaker 4: I mean, you name so many different things. Mark Alprin
Speaker 4: writing in his newsletter today, one of the most important
Speaker 4: ways in which Trump defies convention as that he thrives
Speaker 4: by picking the maximum number of fights possible. Most White
Speaker 4: houses would be an overload if they had one tenth
Speaker 4: of the number of simultaneous conflicts that Trump has initiated.
Speaker 4: But Trump personally and the ready for war infrastructure he's
Speaker 4: a arrayed both inside government and outside, are in fact
Speaker 4: built for taking on many, many brawls at the same time.
Speaker 2: And we won't know until we're looking through the rear
Speaker 2: view mirror how it all works out.
Speaker 4: God, the way his personality and brain works that he
Speaker 4: can be involved in this many skirmishes at one time
Speaker 4: would make most people crazy, and especially at his age. Right,
Speaker 4: old fat guy who eats fast food. Bring it on,
Speaker 4: he says.
Speaker 2: Eh, they need to study him when he passes, figure
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Speaker 4: And they stole how many millions of dollars with the stuff,
Speaker 4: and they're still on the loose. I mean it's a
Speaker 4: successful heist so far anyway, going right through the wall.
Speaker 4: That's thinking outside the box, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh that reminds me I tweeted out a new video
Speaker 1: of people cleaning out the shelves of a Walgreens in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Just unbelievable. You two can have this in
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Speaker 2: Major ruling in Great Britain.
Speaker 4: They're Supreme Court ruled that trans women do not fall
Speaker 4: within the legal definition of women under the country's equality legislation.
Speaker 4: It was a unanimous decision. The Deputy President of the Court,
Speaker 4: Lord Hodge. I can't believe they use the terms lord
Speaker 4: in a democracy, seems how I love it anyway, he said,
Speaker 4: the unanarchy.
Speaker 2: Actually, the.
Speaker 4: The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms
Speaker 4: woman and sex in the Equality Act of twenty ten
Speaker 4: refer to biological women in biological sex only because.
Speaker 2: Of course they do.
Speaker 4: Because of course they do. I can't believe we had
Speaker 4: to discuss this. He didn't say a king. He meant,
Speaker 4: you know me, I object to the term biological women.
Speaker 4: It's like saying a biological lion. I mean, that's the
Speaker 4: only kind of lion there is. That's It's entirely a
Speaker 4: biological question.
Speaker 2: What is a woman? What is a man? Yes, we
Speaker 2: know it's a biological woman anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Scottish Parliament, Scots have lost their minds.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be tough and to your climate sucks
Speaker 1: and the food's terrible. You're supposed to be realistic people.
Speaker 1: You invented golf. Anyway, you invented golf. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly how that fits into my argument, but it popped
Speaker 1: into my end. But anyway, so a Scotland has gone nuts.
Speaker 1: They're so progressive, but they passed this idiotic law that
Speaker 1: there has to be gender balance on public sector boards.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, and some of the.
Speaker 1: Women who said yes, there ought to be balanced, no
Speaker 1: matter who's qualified not or who gets liketed or whatever,
Speaker 1: you've got to have a balance noticed Hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of dudes claiming to be women taking
Speaker 1: up the women's slots on these boards. And so the
Speaker 1: worm turned and they said, no, no, no, by women.
Speaker 1: We met women.
Speaker 4: Excellent Shakespeare, drop on a British story, three searchers.
Speaker 2: Thank you, mister president. So who is this?
Speaker 1: The Women Scotland co founder Susan Smith welcome the court's decision,
Speaker 1: but said the fight was likely to continue. Quote today
Speaker 1: the judges have said what we always believe to be
Speaker 1: the case, that women are protected by their biological sex,
Speaker 1: that sex is real, that women, Oh my god, we
Speaker 1: have to actually say that out loud, these are odd times,
Speaker 1: and that if you don't know that men and women
Speaker 1: are different and it's real, you got something wrong with
Speaker 1: you anyway, And that women can now feel that services
Speaker 1: and spaces designated for women are for women. What our
Speaker 1: politicians need to get their heads around this law. They
Speaker 1: need to stop putting faulty guidance into schools and hospitals.
Speaker 2: Amen to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting that they did that. I don't feel
Speaker 4: like we're ever gonna do a way with all gender
Speaker 4: bathrooms in the United States. I feel like it's here
Speaker 4: to stay.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you are wrong.
Speaker 1: It's if that prevents lunatic state and lunatic cities from
Speaker 1: letting men into women's private spaces. If that's what it takes.
Speaker 1: You want to present as a woman, here's a bathroom
Speaker 1: for you. You're not going in the women's locker room.
Speaker 1: If that's the solution. Okay, until this madness washes over anyway, Katie,
Speaker 1: Yes a tease.
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Speaker 1: I'm making mine. What the hell face just it's radio,
Speaker 1: you can't tell. So Katie brought it to this audio.
Speaker 1: It is a galon old school lesbian talking about what
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, that the whole LGB thing has
Speaker 1: suddenly blossomed into like thirteen letters, a half dozen numbers
Speaker 1: and the division symbol or something, and everybody with any
Speaker 1: gripe is supposed to be a grouped together.
Speaker 2: While she's not buying it.
Speaker 5: From an og lesbian, the acronym LGBTQ plus is not
Speaker 5: a representation of a united community for what was once
Speaker 5: a legitimate civil rights movement. Gay rights has been hijacked
Speaker 5: quite literally by the TQ plus and used as a
Speaker 5: trojan horse to mainstream their degeneracy. First we have the
Speaker 5: transcot who want to sterilize children with puberty blockers. Then
Speaker 5: we have the cues young men feminized by sissyporn furries
Speaker 5: and pups who fetishize bestiality, all accepted and protected by
Speaker 5: the rainbow umbrella that magically transforms all scrutiny into bigotry.
Speaker 5: But the thing that requires the most scrutiny is the
Speaker 5: unspecified plus at the end, a placeholder for what's coming next, nor.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That was readophilia yew All was brilliant.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's what she's hitting up?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suspect so.
Speaker 1: I don't know so, but yeah, Uh, minor attracted individuals
Speaker 1: is the new term you're supposed to use for pedophiles.
Speaker 1: They're trying to normalize that too, ma Aismais.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Katie, just like you just nailed it.
Speaker 4: I had to edit it down for time, but she
Speaker 4: kind of alluded to that's what's coming.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: She used terms like you used to hear from you know,
Speaker 4: right wingers about gay marriage degenerously stuff like that. That's
Speaker 4: pretty strong stuff from an og lesbian.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: What I appreciated from her, uh and and other folks
Speaker 1: like her Gaze against Groomers for instance, which is a
Speaker 1: group that has an online presence, is that she is
Speaker 1: standing up against the horrors of these experiments on children
Speaker 1: with the hormones and puberty blockers and cutting off healthy
Speaker 1: breast tissue because the confused girl thinks he's a boy
Speaker 1: for you know, a cup of coffee. Just all of
Speaker 1: that stuff, and how perverse it is that the gay
Speaker 1: rights movement is being frog marched into supporting that stuff,
Speaker 1: when a lot of it is you've got a fairly
Speaker 1: effeminate boy, it's probably gay, and the message is you're
Speaker 1: not gay. You need to be fixed with surgery. You
Speaker 1: need to be Oh you're gonna get with guys, We
Speaker 1: need to cut off your penis and turn you into
Speaker 1: a girl. I mean, can you imagine if a conservative
Speaker 1: group said, Okay, you're a bit of a tomboy, you
Speaker 1: know what, off with your breasts and we're gonna make
Speaker 1: you a penis because if you want to be a boy,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you look like a boy.
Speaker 2: What horrific bigotry would that be? And that's that's what
Speaker 2: a lot of gay people are saying.
Speaker 1: They they can't get echoed in the media because the
Speaker 1: media are such frigging morons and such soft heads and such.
Speaker 1: She they think, well lgbtq RMLF over the power of three,
Speaker 1: I got to include all of those. And the other
Speaker 1: great phrase she used was any skepticism is called or
Speaker 1: any What did she say? I can't remember the word,
Speaker 1: but essentially, any skepticism is bigotry.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 4: It would be a huge benefit to society if there
Speaker 4: was a break between the first three letters and the
Speaker 4: rest of those letters. That'd be really good for the country.
Speaker 1: Do I want anybody beat up or demonized or hurt
Speaker 1: or anything, No, of course not. I just don't want
Speaker 1: dudes whooping up on girls in sports. And I would
Speaker 1: like the social contagion, which is the neo Marxist activist
Speaker 1: around radical gender theory, to get.
Speaker 2: The hell out of schools. That's what I want. That's
Speaker 2: a good one. Where was that? Where's that woman from
Speaker 2: or what is she?
Speaker 1: Brit Clearly if there's more of her, Katie's let's have it,
Speaker 1: let's hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had it.
Speaker 4: Here's your breaking forty year old celebrity divorce news. As
Speaker 4: it was one of the odd pairings in the history
Speaker 4: of celebrities. I think for some people when the hottest
Speaker 4: woman on the planet at the time, model Christie Brinkley
Speaker 4: weed Billy Joel.
Speaker 1: Why because he was kind of I mean, the whole
Speaker 1: rock star and model thing.
Speaker 2: Could not be more common. I know, they just didn't
Speaker 2: look like a couple to me. First of all, she's
Speaker 2: two feet taller. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I was in music radio at the time, and
Speaker 4: I know it was mocked a lot. So she says
Speaker 4: that she left him over his drinking, which I had
Speaker 4: never heard before, and that it was very painful and
Speaker 4: she did not want the marriage to end.
Speaker 2: But he's the hell of a drunk he is, and
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons I brought it up. He
Speaker 2: is taking it Apparently he's going to take it to
Speaker 2: the end.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's pretty old now, he's you know, he
Speaker 4: crashed into the same house multiple times famously there in
Speaker 4: Long Island, and he ruined a couple of marriages. I
Speaker 4: would have guess over this and just keeps on trying.
Speaker 4: Then maybe I can make it work or something, or
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna tell me to quit or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. But he, you know, he's willing
Speaker 2: to take it to the end. Yeah, maybe you have
Speaker 2: to admire that in some way. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have no idea what it's like to be with
Speaker 2: Christy Brinkley.
Speaker 1: I mean, because a marriage is a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot more than physical attraction. But if Christy Brinkley says
Speaker 1: you got to rein in the sauce or I'm leaving,
Speaker 1: I'm at least gonna give it the old college try.
Speaker 2: God, you think you would think so? Yeah? Yeah, And
Speaker 2: he had it going on there for a while. Huh.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, hit after hit after hit after hit.
Speaker 4: And he's married to Christy Brinkley. Well, he's married to
Speaker 4: an uptown girl.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: How do you I think the second time you crash
Speaker 4: into the same house, I would think, you know what,
Speaker 4: I should get a driver.
Speaker 2: Maybe he did after that. I don't know. Let's look
Speaker 2: at the other side. You're living in that house.
Speaker 1: You'd wake up to a horrific crashing sound and just say,
Speaker 1: it's Billy again.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did the pio?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 2: Honey, piano man hit it house again? Oh okay, Oh, for.
Speaker 1: God's sake, we just got it fixed, Billy, No kidding, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got more of the ways there.
Speaker 7: So when you think about these businesses and a one
Speaker 7: therapy put on them, it's untenable for them. They don't
Speaker 7: have the cash flow, they don't have the access to capital,
Speaker 7: and it's basically locking up production in the toy industry.
Speaker 7: No toys are currently being produced in China, and there
Speaker 7: are reports that major retailers here in the US are
Speaker 7: starting to actually cancel orders.
Speaker 2: So so Christmas is at risk.
Speaker 4: That's a some economic expert on CNN yesterday on the
Speaker 4: lead Christmas is at risk. Toy companies can handle one
Speaker 4: hundred and forty five percent tariff. At some point the
Speaker 4: rubber's going to meet the road on this, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I mean, we all were relieved, I guess to find
Speaker 4: out iPhones aren't gonna triple in price.
Speaker 2: But there is all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, part of me he wants to urge
Speaker 1: that guy to watch how the Grinch stole Christmas Christmas
Speaker 1: and be reminded that.
Speaker 2: It came.
Speaker 1: It came, It came without boxes and bushels and bags
Speaker 1: the rest of it. Yeah, Christmas isn't at risk, but
Speaker 1: he was talking about toy retailers, so I get that.
Speaker 1: You know, the ready fire aim nature of the tariffs
Speaker 1: is I think going to be counterproductive, although I suspect
Speaker 1: it's just going to lead to better trade deals. But
Speaker 1: it was pointed out by some learned folks that if
Speaker 1: you're a giant, multinational conglomerate with lobbyists and perhaps a
Speaker 1: tim cook who can pick up the phone and call
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you get a carve out. But all the
Speaker 1: mom and pop businesses, all the small manufacturers, they don't.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be you know, shut put out of business
Speaker 1: right because they can't ensure their inputs fast enough.
Speaker 4: A bankrupt which is the main from the right big
Speaker 4: critique of tariffs in general, that it ends up being
Speaker 4: I mean, you're like creating a reason for people to
Speaker 4: get special treatment or do things to get special.
Speaker 2: Treatment, right, Yeah, it enriches the swamp.
Speaker 4: I was just texting with somebody who said they were
Speaker 4: about to do something, it doesn't matter what, and I said,
Speaker 4: you're brave, Gail King, brave.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that will catch on. It's like, wow,
Speaker 2: you're like Gail King brave there congratulations Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of economic occurrence and stuff like that, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk of recession because of the tariffs
Speaker 1: and all and how it shakes out. Nobody knows exactly
Speaker 1: what might already be in one of many according to
Speaker 1: many economists.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right.
Speaker 1: And I came across this from the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of a good reminder what
Speaker 1: is a recession and how when will we know if
Speaker 1: we are in one? Now, that common rule of thumb
Speaker 1: is that two consecutive quarters of declining gross product counts
Speaker 1: as as a recession. The last if it's during the
Speaker 1: Biden administration run and that doesn't run out. But the
Speaker 1: GDP is not the criterion used by the National Bureau
Speaker 1: of Economic Research, which is the long standing arbiter of
Speaker 1: US recessions among economists, government officials, policymakers, and news organizations
Speaker 1: including the Wall Street Journal. The NBR recession dates are
Speaker 1: determined by its prosaically named Quote Business Cycle Dating Committee,
Speaker 1: a group of eight academic economists, some of whom have
Speaker 1: been members of the committee for decades. What they look
Speaker 1: for in order to make a recession call is quote
Speaker 1: a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across
Speaker 1: the economy and lasts more than a few months.
Speaker 2: Swaperty employment wishywashy, oh, very isshue washing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The main indicators they watch are on our employment, inflation
Speaker 1: adjusted personal income, real consumer spending, real manufacturing and trade,
Speaker 1: industry sales and industrial production.
Speaker 4: Well that's there's a democrat in office. Well yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: So it's a little bit of like, that's just your opinion, man.
Speaker 4: And I always remember a guy I knew ran his
Speaker 4: own business. He was a very successful a his own business.
Speaker 4: And this was years ago, like mid two thousand and five.
Speaker 4: I can remember and him saying we're in a recession,
Speaker 4: and we weren't, like officially in a recession, and he
Speaker 4: said we're in a recession, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: that's interesting that you just said that out loud when
Speaker 4: you know it hasn't been declared. And in this case,
Speaker 4: it ended up being declared the next quarter. He had
Speaker 4: already felt it. But I thought at the time, well,
Speaker 4: even if it's not for the rest of the United States,
Speaker 4: if it is for your industry here, that's all that
Speaker 4: matters to you.
Speaker 2: So this this is kind of a stupid term.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like we always talk about when they
Speaker 4: give you a national real estate to statistics. It's the
Speaker 4: point of that more homes were sold last year than
Speaker 4: this year. Well that's I don't even know if that
Speaker 4: number is useful to anybody, but it's certainly not useful
Speaker 4: to your state, county, neighborhood or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, my only argument against that would be that if
Speaker 1: your policies cause one those policies should be reviewed and criticized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it helps to be able to say, in even
Speaker 1: a semi concrete way, hey, this isn't working, it's hurting
Speaker 1: the economy.
Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, that makes sense, but.
Speaker 1: It's not what the media portrays it to be, some
Speaker 1: sort of all encompassing It's not a diagnosis with cancer.
Speaker 1: It's just okay, things are not growing, economics or what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: If your industry on the entire West Coast is suffering
Speaker 4: because of something the weather or whatever, you're in a
Speaker 4: recession every bit as much as if they declared a
Speaker 4: national recession.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm not sure that term means that much
Speaker 4: to me anymore. What you said makes sense. And again
Speaker 4: they changed the definition of it or went with the
Speaker 4: specific definition of it when it applied to Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: because by the definition we'd all been using our entire
Speaker 4: adult lives, we were in a recession, and they.
Speaker 2: Didn't want that to be true. Right, yep, what evs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and I've lived through I can't even
Speaker 4: tell you how many in my life, ten twelve, I
Speaker 4: don't know, thirty, I don't even know, which is part
Speaker 4: of my point. They come and go and we're all fine,
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want it to happen, But
Speaker 4: it's not like the end of the world. Well, right,
Speaker 4: and there have been upsides, like I've gotten used to
Speaker 4: the taste of human flesh. There's been so much cannibalism
Speaker 4: eating the recessions. Yeah, it's an old hat for me.
Speaker 1: It's the other white meat, as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 1: and reminds me.
Speaker 4: I got an update on that New York Times subway
Speaker 4: story that I won't put any more detail on a
Speaker 4: man who passed away on the subway and then some
Speaker 4: unfortunate things happened.
Speaker 2: Oh no, after his passing. You don't know this story.
Speaker 2: Were you here for the story? Maybe you weren't here
Speaker 2: from the story. Were you not here from the story?
Speaker 2: Was I at the masters? I don't know. You couldn't
Speaker 2: have forgotten it. No way you forgot this story.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we'll get through that in hour four, which
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