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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and get taking enough he.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty absolutely clear.

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Speaker 3: The US Supreme Court has already had led a charitable organization,

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Speaker 3: including specifically, a university can lose its tax exem status

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Speaker 3: if they are violating fundamental policy. That was Bob Jones

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Speaker 3: University versus the US in nineteen eighty three. They lost

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Speaker 3: their tax exem status because their racist, discriminatory policies were

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Speaker 3: contrary to a compelling governmental interest and to public policy.

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Speaker 3: Harvard has said they will not comply with what the

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Speaker 3: federal government says they need to as it relates to

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Speaker 3: enforcing non discrimination policies. Of course, they can lose their

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Speaker 3: federal exempt tax status. I've read through the letter that

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Speaker 3: the task force sent to Harvard, and all they're asking

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Speaker 3: is to come up with solutions to its own problems.

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Speaker 1: That is a fellow by the name of Mark a

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Speaker 1: gold Feeder, Goldfetter. He's a professor. He's obviously of a

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Speaker 1: conservative bent. He may be the only conservative professor in

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Speaker 1: America apparently, which is part of the reason we got

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Speaker 1: to where we are the Trump administration versus Harvard.

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Speaker 2: One more news clip and then we will discuss.

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Speaker 3: These universities are titled and they will not stop this

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Speaker 3: behavior on their own court. The only thing they seem

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Speaker 3: to respond to is financial incentive. That seems to be

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Speaker 3: the only lever that we can pull to stop the

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Speaker 3: racist and anti submitic conduct on their canvases.

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Speaker 1: So I would tend to agree with his point of view.

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Speaker 1: How to affect the change is where the devil is

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Speaker 1: in the details.

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Speaker 2: Super interesting topic.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask a very broad question before you get

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Speaker 4: into the details or the intricacies, and that's where you

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Speaker 4: always end up with, you know, the law, but on

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Speaker 4: a very broad level, just like a macro level, why

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Speaker 4: are we giving so many federals to these universities at all?

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Speaker 4: I mean, like particularly like the Harvard's and the princes

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Speaker 4: of the world that have endowments of billions and billions

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Speaker 4: of dollars? And how much money does that generate every year?

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Speaker 4: You know, with the investments and everything like that. I said,

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Speaker 4: why aren't they funding themselves?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 2: Secondly do we just.

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Speaker 1: The brief answer to that before we get to question too,

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Speaker 1: is we're paying them to.

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Speaker 4: Do research when research wekendds and why can't did your

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Speaker 4: research with their own money because.

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Speaker 1: It benefits we the people. I'm not arguing in favor

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Speaker 1: of that point of view. That would be the answer anyway.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that's what people would say, But I

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Speaker 4: just don't understand that you've got billions of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's enough.

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Speaker 4: People that believe in Harvard and the work you do

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Speaker 4: that have donated enough money over the years, and part

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Speaker 4: of what you do is research.

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Speaker 2: Then spend your own damn money on research.

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Speaker 4: I just don't quite understand why the federal government has

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Speaker 4: to give them money. If there is a reason I

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Speaker 4: don't understand, feel free to text or email. Then if

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Speaker 4: you are going to give a bunch of the money,

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Speaker 4: do we think it's okay that you know, an administration

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Speaker 4: comes in and it doesn't have to be like a

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Speaker 4: specific you're not allowing like at UCLA where they weren't

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Speaker 4: letting Jewish kids go to the library or whatever, even

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Speaker 4: not a specific thing like on that. The current administration

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Speaker 4: just doesn't like the politics of the college. Why do

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Speaker 4: you have to give them the money? Why didn't you

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't it swing back and forth administration by administration.

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Speaker 1: Well, you made the point earlier, and it's a good

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Speaker 1: one that when the shoe is on the other foot.

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Speaker 1: The Biden administration, Obama, you name, the Democratic administrations through

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Speaker 1: the years absolutely insisted on the universities towing the line

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Speaker 1: of progressive policies and to the point that they were

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Speaker 1: a huge aid in the journey of American universities to

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Speaker 4: Well, it didn't become an issue because all the universities

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Speaker 4: administrations were wanting them to do. You didn't hear anything

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Speaker 2: We love that, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, certainly a lot of Marxists have been on

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Speaker 1: couldn't decide whether to end with this thought or to

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: We're making this up as we go, So I think

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it out right now, you know me.

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Speaker 1: Believe, as I said yesterday, our universities, our colleges and

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Speaker 1: universities really education K through PhD level is so horribly

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Speaker 1: infected with anti Western civilization, anti American activists. It's the

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Speaker 2: I honestly think that could be too late.

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Speaker 1: If we teach generation after generation to despise the country

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Speaker 1: and the principles on which is it's founded, how.

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Speaker 2: It's that experiment going to end? You suppose?

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Speaker 1: I hope maybe what's good about America will cure the

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Speaker 2: But man, you can't crank.

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Speaker 1: Out your young people generation after generation hating ourselves anyway.

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Speaker 1: So here's the way I want to frame this. This

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Speaker 1: reminds me so much of the great conundrum of democracies.

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Speaker 2: And I learned about this first.

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Speaker 1: Particularly looking at democracies in the Middle East, trying to

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Speaker 1: if we can just use our country.

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Speaker 2: We have freedom of speech. You can advocate.

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Speaker 1: Whatever ideas you want, no matter how repugnant, except for

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Speaker 1: the violent overthrow of the government.

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Speaker 2: Overturning the constitution.

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Speaker 1: You can advocate voting the constitution owut, but can't advocate the.

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Speaker 2: Violent overthrow.

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Speaker 1: That free speech protect a party, for instance, and read

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Speaker 1: Hullaback is that his name? Who wrote submission about Islam

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Speaker 1: and France? That freedom speech protects a fundamentalist Muslim party

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Speaker 1: who wants to institute Sharia law across America And dontry.

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Speaker 2: I'll get back to the college in a minute.

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Speaker 1: So you say, well, our principles are you get to

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Speaker 1: run your Sharia law party because we there are sacred

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Speaker 1: founding principles and we will not violate them. And then

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Speaker 1: as soon as those people get elected, they end all

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Speaker 1: is the great conundrum of democracies. Do you protect those

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Speaker 4: Right, it's the it's the it's the problem with the

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Speaker 4: whole coexist bumper sticker. One of those symbols on there

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to coexist with the rest of the symbols.

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Speaker 1: Right, and would slit its throat all of their throats, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to get supremacy. So how exactly you're going to co

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Speaker 1: exist again anyway. The reason I brought all this up

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Speaker 1: run Harvard. Many of his demands on the school exceed

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Speaker 1: his power under the Constitution, and so it's kind of

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Speaker 1: the other side of the coin. You have now these

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Speaker 1: elite universities. I almost want to vomit when I say that,

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Speaker 1: these elite universities who are totally ideologically captured by those

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Speaker 1: to be viewpoint diversity, which they don't define. And the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal ask, does this mean English to departments

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Speaker 1: the university must hire quote a critical massive new faculty

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Speaker 1: So to Harvard have applicants have to say whether they

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The trouble with this, I think is just you can't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can write out a recipe for

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Speaker 4: a cultural change. I just I don't think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: And then enforce it at the end of the government's

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Speaker 2: And trust me, don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'm not rushing towards some sort of Let the universities

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Speaker 1: to have academic freedom. They're violating our academic freedom. There

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Speaker 2: That's what we're mad about, right, exactly.

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Speaker 4: The fact that culturally it got to a point where

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Speaker 4: these elite universities are all one extreme side of politics

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you write out a list of

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Speaker 1: Well, ride and they say the Trump team is shooting

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Speaker 1: first and investigating later, imposing these new rules. Uh, here's

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Speaker 1: what I would suggest in terms of rules, enforceable. Rules

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Speaker 2: Don't be a jerk. Be nice.

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Speaker 1: The stuff about anti semitism, enforcing civil rights laws to

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Speaker 1: the letter one hundred percent in favor of that. That's

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. Get rid of your DEI programs. They're illegal,

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Speaker 1: they're a moral they're unconstitutional. I love all of that.

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Speaker 1: But the faculty diversity thing, I think has got to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said yesterday, I think the damage has

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Speaker 4: that resume, They're not thinking, yes, a Harvard grad applied.

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Speaker 4: They're thinking, uh, oh, what kind of nut job might

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Speaker 1: Right start mocking Harvard constantly in Colombian pen and Stanford,

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Speaker 1: which have lined up to support Harvard, because Harvard, I should.

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Speaker 2: Have told you that.

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Speaker 1: No, I guess it was in that news said no,

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Speaker 2: I use this example a lot.

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Speaker 1: Call it Harvard Marx University for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: I use this example a lot because it bothers me

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Speaker 4: a lot. But it's been going on for decades. There are,

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Speaker 4: at least according to Bloom who's the Yale University. He's

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Speaker 4: dead now, but the expert, the biggest expert in America

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Speaker 4: in the history of Shakespeare. He was so upset in

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Speaker 4: the nineties that there were no Shakespeare classes being taught

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Speaker 4: at elite universities, where the whole point was to say,

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Speaker 2: History of the world.

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Speaker 4: They were all Shakespeare and racism Shakespeare, and misogyny Shakespeare,

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Speaker 4: and you know this sort of stuff. Class blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: It was all criticizing Shakespeare for all those things I

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Speaker 4: you going to legislate that out of the colleges? How

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Speaker 4: would you prost do that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Excellent Shakespeare, drop on a British story, three searchers.

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Speaker 1: It's if that prevents lunatic state and lunatic cities from

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Speaker 1: If that's the solution. Okay, until this madness washes over anyway, Katie,

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Speaker 4: She used terms like you used to hear from you know,

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Speaker 1: with the hormones and puberty blockers and cutting off healthy

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Speaker 1: breast tissue because the confused girl thinks he's a boy

444
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Speaker 1: for you know, a cup of coffee. Just all of

445
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: that stuff, and how perverse it is that the gay

446
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Speaker 1: rights movement is being frog marched into supporting that stuff,

447
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: when a lot of it is you've got a fairly

448
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: effeminate boy, it's probably gay, and the message is you're

449
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: not gay. You need to be fixed with surgery. You

450
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Speaker 1: need to be Oh you're gonna get with guys, We

451
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Speaker 1: need to cut off your penis and turn you into

452
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Speaker 1: a girl. I mean, can you imagine if a conservative

453
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Speaker 1: group said, Okay, you're a bit of a tomboy, you

454
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Speaker 1: know what, off with your breasts and we're gonna make

455
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Speaker 1: you a penis because if you want to be a boy,

456
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Speaker 1: we're gonna make you look like a boy.

457
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Speaker 2: What horrific bigotry would that be? And that's that's what

458
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Speaker 2: a lot of gay people are saying.

459
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Speaker 1: They they can't get echoed in the media because the

460
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Speaker 1: media are such frigging morons and such soft heads and such.

461
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Speaker 1: She they think, well lgbtq RMLF over the power of three,

462
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Speaker 1: I got to include all of those. And the other

463
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Speaker 1: great phrase she used was any skepticism is called or

464
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Speaker 1: any What did she say? I can't remember the word,

465
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Speaker 1: but essentially, any skepticism is bigotry.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no.

467
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Speaker 4: It would be a huge benefit to society if there

468
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Speaker 4: was a break between the first three letters and the

469
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Speaker 4: rest of those letters. That'd be really good for the country.

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Speaker 1: Do I want anybody beat up or demonized or hurt

471
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Speaker 1: or anything, No, of course not. I just don't want

472
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Speaker 1: dudes whooping up on girls in sports. And I would

473
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Speaker 1: like the social contagion, which is the neo Marxist activist

474
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Speaker 1: around radical gender theory, to get.

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Speaker 2: The hell out of schools. That's what I want. That's

476
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Speaker 2: a good one. Where was that? Where's that woman from

477
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Speaker 2: or what is she?

478
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Speaker 1: Brit Clearly if there's more of her, Katie's let's have it,

479
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Speaker 1: let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she had it.

481
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Speaker 4: Here's your breaking forty year old celebrity divorce news. As

482
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Speaker 4: it was one of the odd pairings in the history

483
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Speaker 4: of celebrities. I think for some people when the hottest

484
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Speaker 4: woman on the planet at the time, model Christie Brinkley

485
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Speaker 4: weed Billy Joel.

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Speaker 1: Why because he was kind of I mean, the whole

487
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Speaker 1: rock star and model thing.

488
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Speaker 2: Could not be more common. I know, they just didn't

489
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Speaker 2: look like a couple to me. First of all, she's

490
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Speaker 2: two feet taller. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I was in music radio at the time, and

492
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Speaker 4: I know it was mocked a lot. So she says

493
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Speaker 4: that she left him over his drinking, which I had

494
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Speaker 4: never heard before, and that it was very painful and

495
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Speaker 4: she did not want the marriage to end.

496
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Speaker 2: But he's the hell of a drunk he is, and

497
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Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons I brought it up. He

498
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Speaker 2: is taking it Apparently he's going to take it to

499
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Speaker 2: the end.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's pretty old now, he's you know, he

501
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Speaker 4: crashed into the same house multiple times famously there in

502
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Speaker 4: Long Island, and he ruined a couple of marriages. I

503
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Speaker 4: would have guess over this and just keeps on trying.

504
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Speaker 4: Then maybe I can make it work or something, or

505
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Speaker 4: nobody's gonna tell me to quit or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what. But he, you know, he's willing

507
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Speaker 2: to take it to the end. Yeah, maybe you have

508
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Speaker 2: to admire that in some way. I don't know. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 2: I have no idea what it's like to be with

510
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Speaker 2: Christy Brinkley.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because a marriage is a hell of a

512
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Speaker 1: lot more than physical attraction. But if Christy Brinkley says

513
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Speaker 1: you got to rein in the sauce or I'm leaving,

514
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Speaker 1: I'm at least gonna give it the old college try.

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Speaker 2: God, you think you would think so? Yeah? Yeah, And

516
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: he had it going on there for a while. Huh.

517
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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, hit after hit after hit after hit.

518
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Speaker 4: And he's married to Christy Brinkley. Well, he's married to

519
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Speaker 4: an uptown girl.

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Speaker 2: Right.

521
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Speaker 4: How do you I think the second time you crash

522
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: into the same house, I would think, you know what,

523
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Speaker 4: I should get a driver.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he did after that. I don't know. Let's look

525
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Speaker 2: at the other side. You're living in that house.

526
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Speaker 1: You'd wake up to a horrific crashing sound and just say,

527
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Speaker 1: it's Billy again.

528
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, did the pio?

529
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: What was that?

530
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Speaker 2: Honey, piano man hit it house again? Oh okay, Oh, for.

531
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Speaker 1: God's sake, we just got it fixed, Billy, No kidding, Okay,

532
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: we got more of the ways there.

533
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Speaker 7: So when you think about these businesses and a one

534
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 7: therapy put on them, it's untenable for them. They don't

535
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Speaker 7: have the cash flow, they don't have the access to capital,

536
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Speaker 7: and it's basically locking up production in the toy industry.

537
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 7: No toys are currently being produced in China, and there

538
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Speaker 7: are reports that major retailers here in the US are

539
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Speaker 7: starting to actually cancel orders.

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Speaker 2: So so Christmas is at risk.

541
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Speaker 4: That's a some economic expert on CNN yesterday on the

542
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Speaker 4: lead Christmas is at risk. Toy companies can handle one

543
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Speaker 4: hundred and forty five percent tariff. At some point the

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: rubber's going to meet the road on this, isn't it.

545
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Speaker 4: I mean, we all were relieved, I guess to find

546
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Speaker 4: out iPhones aren't gonna triple in price.

547
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Speaker 2: But there is all that other stuff.

548
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Speaker 1: Right, you know, part of me he wants to urge

549
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Speaker 1: that guy to watch how the Grinch stole Christmas Christmas

550
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Speaker 1: and be reminded that.

551
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Speaker 2: It came.

552
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Speaker 1: It came, It came without boxes and bushels and bags

553
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Speaker 1: the rest of it. Yeah, Christmas isn't at risk, but

554
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Speaker 1: he was talking about toy retailers, so I get that.

555
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Speaker 1: You know, the ready fire aim nature of the tariffs

556
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Speaker 1: is I think going to be counterproductive, although I suspect

557
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Speaker 1: it's just going to lead to better trade deals. But

558
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Speaker 1: it was pointed out by some learned folks that if

559
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Speaker 1: you're a giant, multinational conglomerate with lobbyists and perhaps a

560
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: tim cook who can pick up the phone and call

561
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you get a carve out. But all the

562
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Speaker 1: mom and pop businesses, all the small manufacturers, they don't.

563
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be you know, shut put out of business

564
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Speaker 1: right because they can't ensure their inputs fast enough.

565
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Speaker 4: A bankrupt which is the main from the right big

566
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Speaker 4: critique of tariffs in general, that it ends up being

567
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're like creating a reason for people to

568
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Speaker 4: get special treatment or do things to get special.

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Speaker 2: Treatment, right, Yeah, it enriches the swamp.

570
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Speaker 4: I was just texting with somebody who said they were

571
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Speaker 4: about to do something, it doesn't matter what, and I said,

572
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Speaker 4: you're brave, Gail King, brave.

573
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that will catch on. It's like, wow,

574
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Speaker 2: you're like Gail King brave there congratulations Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of economic occurrence and stuff like that, there's

576
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Speaker 1: a lot of talk of recession because of the tariffs

577
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Speaker 1: and all and how it shakes out. Nobody knows exactly

578
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Speaker 1: what might already be in one of many according to

579
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Speaker 1: many economists.

580
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Speaker 2: Well, that's right.

581
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Speaker 1: And I came across this from the Wall Street Journal,

582
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Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of a good reminder what

583
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Speaker 1: is a recession and how when will we know if

584
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Speaker 1: we are in one? Now, that common rule of thumb

585
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: is that two consecutive quarters of declining gross product counts

586
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Speaker 1: as as a recession. The last if it's during the

587
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Biden administration run and that doesn't run out. But the

588
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: GDP is not the criterion used by the National Bureau

589
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Speaker 1: of Economic Research, which is the long standing arbiter of

590
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Speaker 1: US recessions among economists, government officials, policymakers, and news organizations

591
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Speaker 1: including the Wall Street Journal. The NBR recession dates are

592
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Speaker 1: determined by its prosaically named Quote Business Cycle Dating Committee,

593
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Speaker 1: a group of eight academic economists, some of whom have

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Speaker 1: been members of the committee for decades. What they look

595
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: for in order to make a recession call is quote

596
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Speaker 1: a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across

597
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Speaker 1: the economy and lasts more than a few months.

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Speaker 2: Swaperty employment wishywashy, oh, very isshue washing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The main indicators they watch are on our employment, inflation

600
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Speaker 1: adjusted personal income, real consumer spending, real manufacturing and trade,

601
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Speaker 1: industry sales and industrial production.

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Speaker 4: Well that's there's a democrat in office. Well yeah, that's interesting.

603
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: So it's a little bit of like, that's just your opinion, man.

604
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Speaker 4: And I always remember a guy I knew ran his

605
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Speaker 4: own business. He was a very successful a his own business.

606
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Speaker 4: And this was years ago, like mid two thousand and five.

607
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Speaker 4: I can remember and him saying we're in a recession,

608
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: and we weren't, like officially in a recession, and he

609
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: said we're in a recession, and I was like, wow,

610
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Speaker 4: that's interesting that you just said that out loud when

611
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: you know it hasn't been declared. And in this case,

612
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: it ended up being declared the next quarter. He had

613
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Speaker 4: already felt it. But I thought at the time, well,

614
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Speaker 4: even if it's not for the rest of the United States,

615
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: if it is for your industry here, that's all that

616
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: matters to you.

617
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: So this this is kind of a stupid term.

618
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like we always talk about when they

619
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Speaker 4: give you a national real estate to statistics. It's the

620
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: point of that more homes were sold last year than

621
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Speaker 4: this year. Well that's I don't even know if that

622
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: number is useful to anybody, but it's certainly not useful

623
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Speaker 4: to your state, county, neighborhood or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well, my only argument against that would be that if

625
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: your policies cause one those policies should be reviewed and criticized. Yeah,

626
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: so it helps to be able to say, in even

627
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: a semi concrete way, hey, this isn't working, it's hurting

628
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: the economy.

629
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Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, that makes sense, but.

630
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Speaker 1: It's not what the media portrays it to be, some

631
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: sort of all encompassing It's not a diagnosis with cancer.

632
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Speaker 1: It's just okay, things are not growing, economics or what's

633
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 4: If your industry on the entire West Coast is suffering

635
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: because of something the weather or whatever, you're in a

636
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: recession every bit as much as if they declared a

637
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Speaker 4: national recession.

638
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

639
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm not sure that term means that much

640
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: to me anymore. What you said makes sense. And again

641
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: they changed the definition of it or went with the

642
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 4: specific definition of it when it applied to Joe Biden,

643
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: because by the definition we'd all been using our entire

644
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: adult lives, we were in a recession, and they.

645
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Didn't want that to be true. Right, yep, what evs?

646
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and I've lived through I can't even

647
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: tell you how many in my life, ten twelve, I

648
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: don't know, thirty, I don't even know, which is part

649
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: of my point. They come and go and we're all fine,

650
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want it to happen, But

651
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: it's not like the end of the world. Well, right,

652
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: and there have been upsides, like I've gotten used to

653
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: the taste of human flesh. There's been so much cannibalism

654
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: eating the recessions. Yeah, it's an old hat for me.

655
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Speaker 1: It's the other white meat, as far as I'm concerned

656
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: and reminds me.

657
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Speaker 4: I got an update on that New York Times subway

658
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: story that I won't put any more detail on a

659
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: man who passed away on the subway and then some

660
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: unfortunate things happened.

661
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: Oh no, after his passing. You don't know this story.

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Speaker 2: Were you here for the story? Maybe you weren't here

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Speaker 2: from the story. Were you not here from the story?

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Speaker 2: Was I at the masters? I don't know. You couldn't

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Speaker 2: have forgotten it. No way you forgot this story.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So we'll get through that in hour four, which

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Speaker 4: is a good reason to mention that if you don't

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Speaker 4: get our four or any segment, get the podcast Armstrong

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Speaker 4: and Getty on demand.

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