1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and welcome to Stuff. I've never 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: told you a production of I Heart Radio's How Stuff Works. 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Before we get into our topic today, which is an 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: interview we're very excited about. I'm so excited we did. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Just want to say this episode may not be suitable 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: for younger listeners. UM, so I would recommend listening to it, 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: um listeners. You may remember a couple of months ago, 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: we did a classic episode with an updated intro about 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: oh Say, and I also guessed on the podcast tech 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Stuff to talk about that, and we thought that, uh, 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: we would we would get someone who knew a little 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: bit better, someone who actually knows a lot about it. Yes, 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: so we have with us Laura Haddock, founder and CEO 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: of Laura de Carlo. Hey, Laura, thank you so much 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: for joining us. Hi, it's really awesome to be here. Yeah, 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: we're so glad to have you. UM. Can you tell us, Uh, 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: let's start with some basics, some basics first about yourself 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: and then about oh say, the products that we're discussing today. UM. Okay, Well, 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: like I said, my name is Laura Haddock. UM, I'm 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: the founder and CEO at Laura to Carlo. UM. Just 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, De Carlo is 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: actually a family name, so that's why gets a little confusing. Um. 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: And my background is actually in healthcare. I spent over 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: a decade in healthcare. I was I went into the 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Navy as a nurse. UM. I ended up uh coming 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: out of an honorable distris to take care of my mother. 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: But I ended up back in uh uh studying premed 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: in Portland and kind of had an epiphany when I 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: had an ariasm and literally done myself, laying on the floor, 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: flopped off the side of the bed, staring at the 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: feeling like a totally idiot, just going how do I 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: do that again? So I remember laying there just thinking 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: like that was amazing, And then I looked at, you know, 34 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: this partner that had helped me get there, and I 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, yeah, how do I do that again? 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Buying myself? So, UM, what I what I ended up 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: doing was actually I have an obsession with anatomy and physiology, 38 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, being in the career on the career track 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: that I was at the time. UM, and I started 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: really diving into the physiology of work asms, of arogynous 41 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: physiology and how particularly how female parts work, and I 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: wanted to find out, like, how can I do this again? Um? 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: And I it came to be that there's no product 44 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: on the market that actually delivers what I was after 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: that that was a blended orgasm, and a blended or 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: gasm is when you stimulate both the clitters or the 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: little the glands. Clutter is actually the part that you 48 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: that you do see that we're familiar with the little 49 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: man in the boat um and then the ge spot um. 50 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: But what most people don't know is that that's all 51 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: a part of the same rogenous physiology. But the clitter 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: is the glands clitters, and then there's actually wings and 53 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: bulbs in all sorts of really neat the theology that 54 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: that branches out beneath the external anatomy of the bolda, 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: just underneath the lady of manora and the lady of majora. 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: And then there's a coalescence of nerves that bundles right 57 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: on the anterior wall of the vaginal canal, so the 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: front side of the inside of your the vaginal canal. 59 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: So what we're doing what I when you you get 60 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: this gladia to orgasm and you're stimulating literally the whole 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: cutters from the outside all the way to the inside. 62 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: And it's not easy to do it's um, It's basically 63 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: the only way you can do it right now is 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: if you have to really specific toys, um, and some 65 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: really acute knowledge about your own physiology and how to 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: get there, or you have a really talented partner, a 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: really talented partner, and of those are easy to come by. 68 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: It was like, listen is ridiculous. There should be something 69 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: that that works like for me, not just for me. 70 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: So I started thinking, like, how do I create something 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: that that that does this and and what are the 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: problems that I would have solved? And there were three 73 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: big problems that I saw immediately. Um. The first was 74 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I had toys. I have a treasure of toys, right 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: and and there's a bunch of stuff in my little 76 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: treasure chest that don't it doesn't hit me. So I 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: wanted to create something that fits a multitude of people. 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: And the only way you can do that is if 79 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: you collect data. I look for the data. I look 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: for spizes. I looked for all of this this data 81 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: around a rogenism, and it doesn't exist. Um, because we 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: don't talk about female sexuality, we don't talk about female 83 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: pleasure because we would prefer to demonize it. Um so, 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: and I remember looking through old anatomy physiology books when 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: I was in school and just going, that's school weird. 86 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Like they talk about like how a man can you know, 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: get hard, They talk about, you know, the blood flow, 88 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: they talk about the innervation, they talk about um, you 89 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: know how they how they orgasm, And then when you 90 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: flip the page and you look at the female side, 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: they talk about how make babies and um and you 92 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: know what bad things can happen you're uterus, and I'm 93 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: just like this not cool. So, so I wanted something 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that could fit both, like anybody. So I actually had 95 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: to go ask people where's your clear is? How big 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: is your clear is? Where your G spot in relation 97 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: to your vaginal canal? Like all of these are really 98 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: kind of hilariously awkward questions. But when you ask somebody, 99 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: they just kind of look at your little crossed and 100 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: you go, this is why. And then when you explain 101 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: to them that I'm you know, I want to see 102 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: if there's like a trend in this status so I 103 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: can design something, then they get really excited and people 104 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: just are like, here, how do I do that. How 105 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: do I measure this for? You think when you're done 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: with this, can I test it. I'm not gonna lie. 107 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: I've been discussing like how do we get one of 108 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: these right? And I was like at that point, I'm like, well, 109 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm just trying to dig up data 110 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: right now. But you know, this was about two and 111 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: a half years ago, but I ended up with over 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: two hundred data points UM and I started seeing a 113 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: trend in that data. The other two things that I 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: wanted to address. The other two problems I wanted to 115 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: address were UM. I wanted to eliminate the use of 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: vibration in this product because I wanted to do that 117 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: in favor of Biomme the Great or UM what's more 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: commonly known as the mimicry of human motion. So I 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: wanted it to feel and wanted somebody to have the 120 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: experience of being with a human partner and towards feel 121 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: like a human partner. And the last thing I wanted 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: absolutely was for it can be completely hands free. And 123 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: the reason for that is because as as females or 124 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: people with vaginas, we have the tendency to really be 125 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: in a very emotional, very psychological state. UM, if we're 126 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: going to orgas them, you have to really be able 127 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to concentrate almost like a point is like like being 128 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: able to meditate or be really into what you're doing. 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: And I find that if you want to reach that state, 130 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you you can't have anything in your hands, Like you 131 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: have to like totally like let go of your whole body. 132 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: And let's like to be honest, like having something hands free. 133 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: It's just way more fun anyway. So and so, UM, 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: let's with all this data and I started creating this 135 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: design in my head and UM. I ended up sitting 136 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: across the table um after getting a couple of recommendations 137 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: with a professor of mechanical engineering UM at Organ State University. 138 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: And organ State University happens to be the top for 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: robotic school graduate program in the country. And I did. 140 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: I didn't tell him like what we were going to 141 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: talk about before I got there. I just showed up 142 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: and I was like okay, so and he was like okay, right, 143 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: and we're like, so orgasm and I want to make 144 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: an orgasm thing and he's like um uh. And I 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: was like, but here's how I want to do it. 146 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: And I literally split across a document that had over 147 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: fifty two functional engineering spects in order to engineer this product, 148 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: and he actually lit up. UM. His name is Dr 149 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: John Parmigiani, and he could smolutely lit up and he's like, oh, 150 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: engineering things, I can do this cool. This is a 151 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: neat problem. We should solve this problem. And I was like, 152 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: you're damn it, we should. So we actually, UM, I 153 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: had just founded the company. I founded the company in 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: October seventeen, so UM coming up on two years now, 155 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: I guess, and UH we started an industry funded research 156 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: project with Oregon State UM that we still have going, 157 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: which is awesome and hilarious. So we ended up with 158 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of students mechanical engineering students in that 159 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: specialized in robotics and UH and electrical engineering students and 160 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: other pH ds that were like, wait, what are you doing? 161 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I would a student on this meeting and UH. We 162 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: worked on that for that six months until we had 163 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: present concepts, and then we started working towards that prototype. 164 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: And at that point I started hiring some of these 165 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: students on the first was actually Dr eight Agot Shorts, 166 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: who UM was finishing her PhD at the time and 167 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: came on with me as soon as she finished her dissertation, 168 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: she came on full time and UM she specializes and 169 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: as an expert in AI and robotics and UM today 170 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: we have for coming up probably in August, will have 171 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: nineteen folks on the payroll as of August, and our 172 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: our director of Engineering is UM. Her name is Kim 173 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: Porter and she's been a veteran in mechanical engineering for 174 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: nearly thirty years now and she's done, She's worked with startups, 175 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: she's brought products UM all the way to fruition in 176 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: onto uh into the market and UH that's what she's 177 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: helping us do right now. And on our sales and 178 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: marketing team, I've got some of like the most amazing 179 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: folks in the business UM one with Sara Sara Brands 180 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and we actually brought over from Lalow competitor UM early on. 181 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: And UH we always jerked that I had Hunter kind 182 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: of pretty much you gave her no, no, no auction, 183 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: no other choice. I was like, you know, you're coming 184 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: on here, whatever you need, just please come and work 185 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: with us. So UM our team is definitely we're growing 186 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: really fast. But what has really helped us to grow 187 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: this fast is we have a very stringent that of 188 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: core values that that really dictates the guides our culture. 189 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: And we have a very inclusive culture. But our values 190 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: are respect, empowerment, and integrity and to us, that creates 191 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: a very inclusive culture. And we only hire folks that 192 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: are a very good skill and psychological and personality fit. Um, 193 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: that get the message, that get the mission, and our 194 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: mission is rooted in gender equity. Um, We're we're not 195 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: just here to make sex toys. We're here to change 196 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the game. We're here to change the face of business 197 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: and change the face of technology. And see that half 198 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: that face is um, women, people of in in minority 199 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: folks and people of coloring and actually see the whole 200 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: plane field get levels and uh, we're excited to be here. 201 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: But we've actually taken that social mission and put it 202 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: on equal footing with profitability and it's it's doing well 203 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: so far. But right now we've got to say will 204 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: be launched this fall. Uh we're going like gangbusters, like 205 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: absolutely screaming with our hair on inspired just about every day. 206 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: But um, everybody shows us and everybody's happy to be here, 207 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, you guys raised about two million 208 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: was a three million I'm trying to keep track because 209 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: to day it's about three point two million. Um. We yeah, 210 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: we just we close, We just close. Um, Actually it's 211 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: not technically we uh we just followed up with another 212 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: two million tronch of funding. Um. That should get us 213 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: all the way through launch, and we are looking at 214 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: doing a pre sale this summer. Um. The data is 215 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: t v A but uh, when we do, we're hoping 216 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: that that will be able to inject more funds in 217 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the marketing because our investors and my team were very 218 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: intent on hitting the market, very hardy, and not just 219 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: making a splash, but creating a tsunami, right, adep that out, 220 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's phenomenal. Also, just to share like creativity 221 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: behind this is enthralling as we're sitting here, Like I'm 222 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: reading through all this stuff and you're telling me all 223 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the people that involved is incredible, and how many women 224 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: are coming together be like, yeah, let's talk about the 225 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: fact that we want pleasure to which I adore. Well, 226 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not just women. It's I mean a good 227 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: portion of our team are our male We have um, 228 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, we have a transgender on on stuff. We 229 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: have a couple of queer folks on stuff, UM like 230 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: people of all different walks of life. Everybody like from 231 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: from a gender standpoint, we we kind of um uh 232 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: stand again that we like from a personality standpoint, like 233 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: everyone from very extroverted to very introverted. UM. So we're 234 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: really focused on diversifying our thought process and how we 235 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: approach problems. And one thing I always tell um all 236 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: of our our team is like, you know, if you 237 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: don't agree with me, say something. If you don't if 238 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand or you don't think that the way 239 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: that the direction that we're taking makes sense, say something. 240 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Challenge me, argue with me, like bring bring your thoughtful 241 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: ideas to the table and challenge me, because um, that's 242 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: the only way that we're going to continually innovate and 243 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: create new products that speak to everyone. That's the only 244 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: way that as a company we're going to absolutely blow 245 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: this thing out of the water. And and it's uh, 246 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: it's hard because especially when you have UM females on 247 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: the team who are used to getting shut down or 248 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: marginalized UM and not being able to have as much 249 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: of a voice at the table, you have to encourage 250 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: that thought process. You have to encourage them to challenge 251 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: you almost UM. And it's uh, it's part of it 252 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: is is a little bit. Um. It's a little saddening 253 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: when I think about the fact that you know, we 254 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: we we have to talk about it on a day's 255 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: the basis. But I also understand that it's really empowering 256 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: knowing that we are creating that kind of empowerment with 257 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: folks where they where they start to understand I do 258 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: have a voice and what I say does matter, and 259 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: my experience is amazing. And and that's like I said, 260 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: it's stands again, it crossed multiple different spreads that spreads 261 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: that diversity, whether it's UM, ethnicity or even religion or gender, 262 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: sex preference, uh, personality types. UM. Bringing all of these 263 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: different voices to the table and allowing them to have 264 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: a void is what has allowing us to innovate so quickly. Yeah, absolutely, UM. 265 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: Like taking it all in um And like he was 266 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: saying earlier, you're here to change the game. And we 267 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: all know that sometimes certain folks don't like change, so 268 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: in factually get a lot of regression with those certain 269 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Yes the last month or so exactly exactly, UM, so 270 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: I I We touched on it in our the update 271 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: we did around this, but could you talk about, um, 272 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: the whole kerfuffle of CS. And I know there's an 273 00:16:53,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: update it recently. Yeah, So for those those and and 274 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: and you guys you covered U C S or covered 275 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: all of that that debacle. Um, So what what happened 276 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: in the afternoon? So CS originally took away an a 277 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: ward that they had given us a month later, and 278 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: we fought them really hard and put it out everything 279 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: that was very biased about what they were doing, and 280 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: it was very arbitrary and capricious. Really. Um, there was 281 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: no basis for for their reasoning, and we pointed that out. 282 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: But they stood their ground and they didn't give us 283 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: our war back. So we decided to, uh, you know, 284 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: create a press release that that picked up Uh core 285 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: is it quite a bit, a little bit more than 286 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: I think I was prepared for. UM. I I do 287 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: remember sitting in uh what our publicists has now that's 288 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: the PR war room. UM, when we did probably close 289 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: to fifteen back to back interviews, uh in an office 290 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, where at the end of the day 291 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: she just like slammed her hands on the table and 292 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: she was like holy crap. That was probably, I think 293 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: maybe the second most insane pr war room I've ever experienced. 294 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: And I remember at some point during the day just 295 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: aff here, Rachel, can I please just go to the bathroom? 296 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I have time, And I was like, okay, yeah. It 297 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: just it picked up. And the reason it picked up 298 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: is because society tired of the demonization of female sexuality. 299 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: People are tired of of you know, in right now 300 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: we're seeing such a huge outcry about you know, the 301 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: removal of female bodily autonomy with um, these abortion laws 302 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: and UM. And I don't think things are going to 303 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: go the way that the way that you know, some 304 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: of these lawmakers thinks they are, because people are tired, 305 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: and they they're ready and willing to fight. So when 306 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: we did that drop, people were so ready to fight 307 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: and and and get behind us and raise awareness and 308 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: lift that voice up. And they and we had I 309 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: think over two hundred thousand social shares UM. We like. 310 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: The amount of coverage that we got UM was absolutely 311 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: mind blowing. I ended up writing an offede for the 312 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Washington Post. We were in the New York Times. I 313 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: ended up getting invited to speak at the Forbes Women 314 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: Conference in Israel and UM, and it's just been I 315 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: often say it's like sitting on a rocket shift and 316 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: drinking from a fire hose and then trying to make 317 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: a peanut butter and bananasinage at the same time. It's right, 318 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: it's fun. So what most people didn't know though, is 319 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: that we were still fighting in UM, you know, in 320 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: the East, and we actually I got an email one 321 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: day from UM, from Gary Shapiro, who is the CEO 322 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: of the Consimilar Technology Association with c t A that 323 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: governs the c e S Show, that consumer Electronics show, 324 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was just a request to to talk. So 325 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: we put together a meeting where we could sit down 326 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: with the c p A and my team and via 327 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: conference call. And the first thing Gary got on the 328 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: phone and the first thing he said was I owe 329 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: you all is very big apology. And uh and I was. 330 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: I was definitely taken aback. But when we realized and 331 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: I was, I was very thankful that such a large 332 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: association was willing to sit down with the little guy 333 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: with the startups and and admit you know, an oversight, 334 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: admit um too maybe to buy it, maybe too, that 335 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: they had truly made a mistake. Not in taking not 336 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: in giving us a ward in the first place, but 337 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: made the mistake and taking it away. And UM, you know, 338 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: the one thing that when I realized that they were 339 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: they were going to give the award back was we 340 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: we said we we really aren't comfortable taking them back 341 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: unless we have the ability to sit down with you 342 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: at the same table and talk about policy change and 343 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: talk about more inclusive language and contribute to that more 344 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: inclusive language. So, yes, we got the award back, but 345 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: I think the real wind is the fact that we're 346 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: sitting down with them right now and we're talking about 347 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: how to make a safer space for finals at the 348 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: e S, how to make safer space for all genders 349 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: at the e S and beyond. So we're talking about 350 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: those policies. We're talking about UM language and inclusivity within language, 351 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: and UM, I don't want to get a percent on 352 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: board yet because it's not finished, so that remains to 353 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: be seen when they published those rules and those policies, 354 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: and I really want to see how to UM you know, 355 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: pans out. But this is what we were talking about. 356 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: We want to see change, and we've got our site 357 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: set on some some very big issues. UM when you 358 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: know when we're done here. And uh, I think that's 359 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: actually what really drives not just me, but just about 360 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: everybody that works at Laura to Carlo is the fact 361 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: that we feel like we have purpose. It's not just 362 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: about making amusing technology and and creating tech that can't 363 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: isn't just using sex choys. It's used. Um, you can 364 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: use this tech and we can. We can commercial life tech. 365 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: It's never been utilized before, and we're super excited about that. 366 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: But to also have mission that stands for gender or 367 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: quality and acuity, I should say, Um, that's what really 368 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: gets us fired up. Because it's not just about women 369 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: being able to use or people's desinas being able to use. 370 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: Like says, it's about the acceptance. It's about removing the 371 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: stigma around sex. And my true belief is that well 372 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: we can you know you you you set up a 373 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: disclaimer when we started this podcast that would you know, 374 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, just so you know, kids, if you're listening, um, 375 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: you know you might want to you might want to 376 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: like warn your children and not let your kids listenness. 377 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: And the fact is, and so we can talk to 378 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: our kids about sexuality and about pleasure and about accepting um, 379 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: their sexuality, their preferent their gender. You don't have to 380 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: make it explicitly sexual in order for kids to understand 381 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: that the way they feel is okay and the way 382 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: they're made is perfectly acceptable. And when we start teaching 383 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: our children about the fact that gender is fluid, the 384 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: way that we approach gender is so binary, and it's 385 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: it's we're getting to this point where we're realizing, you know, me, 386 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: as an individual, I'm not a hundred percent female. I've 387 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: got some seriously male traits or matt killing traits. But 388 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: I should say, um, you know, and I know I 389 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: know male friends of mine. You know, I think guys 390 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: that work in the company that they have quite a 391 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: few feminine traits. The fact that gender is not fluid, 392 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: we have all sorts of different masculine and feminine traits 393 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: in me stands paganut. And when we can start telling 394 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: our children that that's okay, that's when we start to 395 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: eliminate biases, and we start creating gender equity for the 396 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: next generation, and then feminism is no longer needed. That 397 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: is powerful, which is why we didn't interact at all. 398 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Both in here nodding our heads at each other like, yep, 399 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: we have a little bit more for your listeners, but 400 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: first we're gonna pause for a quick bake for word 401 00:24:44,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: from our sponsors, and we're back thanking sche So as 402 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: we were talking, as you were talking about with the 403 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: new laws that are happening, especially about the female body, 404 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: what would be your advice for because obviously you've thought 405 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: about this. You progressed UM trying to break barriers within 406 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: the engineering field, technological field, all of that, UM, what 407 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: would you say to women who are trying to do 408 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: make change but feel like they really can't because they're 409 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: in their individual home or something, or in a state 410 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: like we're state the South, which you know has one 411 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: of the more rigid UM or not just all the styles, 412 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: but in Georgia has a very rigid policy that UM 413 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: was signed in. What would you say to those people 414 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: like these are the ways that you look and see 415 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: in trying to find change instead of just doing the minimal. 416 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Because as you said, your your 417 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: toy to your sex is sex toys were technological sexual satisfaction. 418 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: There there we go, because like this doesn't sound right, 419 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: this is too big, that type of title. We even 420 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: talked about that yeah, yeah, we we call it sex tech. Yeah, 421 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: I will now take that sex tech. Um. But beyond that, 422 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: you started saying that you could break some grounds and 423 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: break some biases as well as um be people who 424 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: are a force to activism in all the different ways. 425 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: That's not just sex tech, you know, um focused, I 426 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know, a very funny I mean a weird gesture 427 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to figu out how to say it 428 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: upon um So, I think the first, first and foremost, 429 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: like the the thing that I would say is that 430 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: anybody listening, like you, really you got to do your homework. 431 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: You need to educate yourself about what's actually going on 432 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: with the laws and it. And I remember, like you know, 433 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: even even two years ago, even when I was even 434 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: when I was in midshipmen, when I was in the navy, um, like, 435 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: I just I didn't really pay a lot of attention 436 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: to the world around me. And I I would implore 437 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: people to to do a little bit of homework. I mean, 438 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: get on get on your phone and google it. The 439 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: fact is the lawmakers that are creating these anti abortion 440 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: builds don't know a thing about not even just female physiology, 441 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: but phys theology period these men are making our laws 442 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: that take away our bodily autonomy, not just ours. If 443 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: if this goes up and actually ends up changing the 444 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: language at Roe v. Wade, this doesn't just affect females, 445 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: This effects everyone's bodily autonomy. What bodily economy is is 446 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: let's say you go to the hospital and your brother 447 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: needs it needs a blood transfusion, and you have the 448 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: same type blood. Let's say you hate your brother and 449 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: you don't want to get in your blood. If we 450 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: change the language at Roe v. Wade, you have to give. 451 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: They take your blood forcibly. That's what we're talking about. 452 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Those are the kind of changes that we're talking about. 453 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: We're not just talking about taking away a woman's right 454 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: to make choices about her own physical body, which I'm 455 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: sorry is your property and no one else's. People need 456 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: to understand that the people that are making these laws, 457 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't know the first thing about human physiology. They're 458 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: they're making insinuations about skinmale bodies. They don't make a 459 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: damn that of sense. Um. There was a text of 460 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: representative Um that seems to think that abortion providers actually 461 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: cut into women's bodies, like he actually thought that an abortion, 462 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: was this very infection which is absolutely assinine. Um. You know, 463 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: there was another one who another guy, another text law 464 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: lawmaker who said that getting a rape kit is them 465 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: was they could they could just go in there and 466 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: get a woman cleaned out. I think they came literally 467 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: said clear woman out to end the pregnancy. And um, 468 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you guys know the infamous one of 469 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: the Missouri congressman that said that, um, if all, if 470 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: it's really a legitimate rate that the female bodies has, 471 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: has ways of shutting it down, give me a freaking brain. 472 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: This is absolutely ridiculous. These men are making our laws 473 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: about our body. And I'm sorry, I don't care if 474 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: you're if you're all the way, if you're completely liberal 475 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: or uh, completely conservative. The fact is when you look 476 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: at the like you look at a man making a 477 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: law about your body, no matter what your stances, whether 478 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: you're religious or whether you are like a completely conservative, 479 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: when you look the fact that these men have one 480 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: is making the law about your body, and you realize 481 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: any kind of Nope, that's the problem. Okay. So then 482 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: then it comes to start doing start doing the the 483 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: homework about like how can you make change there? Are 484 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of petitions going around right now. There are 485 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to UM. It's like, if you 486 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: have the funding available, you have the funds available, donate, 487 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: donate to the Yellow Fund, donate to these. There are 488 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: there are lists that are trying to help women get 489 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: elected to congress or into into all sorts of UM 490 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: government seats. But there are all sorts of ways for 491 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: you to get involved and even just have your name 492 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: to a list like share something, Share like a way 493 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: for somebody to get like right around the awareness that 494 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: we need funding for this. The only way when they 495 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: make an impact is if you vote with your dollars 496 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: and you have to actually get out in freaking vote. 497 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Please get out and vote, because the last thing that 498 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: I want to see is when you know, people think, oh, well, 499 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: you know Trump's not going to get reelected because he's 500 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: the maniac and all right. The people that start thinking 501 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: that are the people that don't go and vote because 502 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: they don't think that that's a possibility. I need you 503 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: to go vote. You need to go vote. You need 504 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: to vote for our bodily autonomy period. And his story 505 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's really frustrating because I know that 506 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that I've spoken to 507 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: that are like, oh, yeah, I just never voted, like 508 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think it. I didn't actually think you would win. Yeah, 509 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: And and okay, well if you don't think you would win, 510 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: or if you if you don't think that the person 511 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: you think is a terrible idea for office is gonna win, 512 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: then go vote anyway. So, um, it's and it's far 513 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: as being like my personal opinion, um is, And on 514 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: my personal opinion, it's absolutely blows me away that you 515 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: can call these people pro lifers. Because if we're gonna 516 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: let a ten year old child dyeing custody, that's not 517 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: pro life. If we're gonna if we're gonna be transgent 518 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: transgender people until they literally die, that's not pro life. 519 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: If we're going to murder countless people of color, that's 520 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: not pro life, right, and forced pregnancy is not for life. 521 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: It is the removal of bodily autonomy. It is anti choice. 522 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: So that's so insanely like riled up about it, but 523 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: you're everybody here is. So it's so on edge about it. Honestly, 524 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you could get away with not feeling 525 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: some type of emotion with what's happening, whether it's one 526 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: side or the other, because it is a really heated 527 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: issue and it is about um, your personal rights when 528 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: it comes down to it, and so you've got to 529 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: be angry because it affects you, affects again everyone, as 530 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, and I love that perspective. Yeah, And 531 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: it's some and I do of sen people realize that 532 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: like we have, Um, I've spoken to U especially, we 533 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: have we have a general council available that I can 534 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: talk to about just about any single sense. That's a 535 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: part of an accelerator that I'm involved with. And you know, 536 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: even I didn't realize like the kind of effects that 537 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: this change of language could have on a review way. 538 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Like the fact is like they've changed this language just 539 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: changes everyone's right, not just the emails ability to get 540 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: into abortion. It's it's so it goes so much deeper 541 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: than that, and it's not pretty. And I guarantee you 542 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: if people truly understood the that's the weight of this 543 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: issue and how their male rights will be taken away 544 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: as well, UM, people will probably look at this a 545 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: little bit differently. Yeah, yeah, I would agree, Um, and 546 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: that kind of um, segus always fun for topics like this. 547 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: That kind of relates back to something UM that I 548 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: wanted to ask, which is, UM, why is talking about 549 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: something like jose having open, open conversations about it and 550 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: female pleasure as opposed to like male pleasure, which is 551 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: just understood to be a right, but figing out pleasure 552 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: for so long has been No, that's taboo, we don't 553 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: talk about it again. As we saw on Twitter, a 554 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: main mentioned that men literally tweet back at women saying, 555 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's not true women like sex. You know, 556 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: if women don't have like like you just can't happen, 557 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: and blows my mind, like it's two thousand nineteen. How 558 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: do you not understand what's happening? Exactly? Yeah, it's UM. Well, 559 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: and like I said, I like talked about it a 560 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. It's about it's about education. It's about 561 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: understanding that the pleasure is is okay, it's accessible and 562 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: UM and the way that we have continuously demonized female 563 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: sexuality for so long is simply unacceptable. I mean, I 564 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever heard of the Madonna for complex, 565 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: but that's basically the inabilities for UM like people to 566 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: stay in a committed, loving relationships because we have this 567 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: obsession with uh, we see women as either saintly Madonna's 568 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: or or total prostitutes and um, you know, we view 569 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: women as and we teach women that they are supposed 570 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: to be um, you know, completely completely proper, never have sex, 571 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: never think about sex, never do anything sexual, be um 572 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: completely chased. And but when you get married, you're supposed 573 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: to be a total horn in the bed and you're 574 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: supposed to know exactly what you're doing. And they don't 575 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: even but we don't even get the opportunity to even 576 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: talk about it, let alone experience our own bodies or 577 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: or explore our own bodies. So um, personally, let's be honest, 578 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: every single person listening to this podcast touched themselves before 579 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: they were a teen. UM. And there's nothing wrong with 580 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: young people exploring their own bodies on their own terms. 581 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: But we we talked to kids, we talk to people 582 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: like that is like, there's something terribly wrong with trying 583 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: to understand your own body or understand your own pleasure. 584 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: And when we do that, we demonize sexuality. You demonize pleasure. 585 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: We make people think it's not okay, UM, particularly for females. 586 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: Uh to to understand their own bodies, to love their 587 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: own bodies. And when we do that, we create a 588 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: very a very binary chasm between men and women where 589 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: women are not allowed and men are. And that that 590 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: tool like that, that approach to sexuality doesn't just stop 591 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: its sexuality. It is completely systemic throughout the way that 592 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: we approach gender and that that effective way that we 593 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: approach women in the border room, that effects the way 594 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: that we approach women on the train, the way we 595 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: approach women in the household, the way we approach women 596 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: with health care, and the way that we you know, 597 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: the way that doctors speak to them. And so, yeah, 598 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: it starts with spects. It starts with understanding that your 599 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: body is perfect the way it is and the way 600 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: you identify with your body and your sexuality, your gender, 601 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: your presence is perfectly normal and there's nothing wrong with 602 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: it and you should explore it. So that's a big 603 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: part of our mission is to really push for people 604 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: to understand that it's okay to explore that sexuality because 605 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: that is liberating, it's empowering. Understanding that you have some 606 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: control over your own pleasure. That's empowering because that ends 607 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: up trickling down to the way that you act, the 608 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: way you walk right in the boardroom, the way you 609 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: walk in the grocery store, the way you talk to 610 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: your doctor, the way that you talk to your husband, 611 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: or you know, even in the the way you make dinner. 612 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: So and and it's not just for men and women, 613 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: it's for people that that might not identify as either. 614 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: It's about understanding how you identify and your pleasure and 615 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: no one, no one's the same, and accepting that we 616 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: don't get get to make decisions about somebody else's personal 617 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: preference or identity. Um, and that's the only control you 618 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: have is over your own preference and identity. That's when 619 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: we can actually start to understand each other a lot better. Yeah, 620 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just sitting at you up, we're 621 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: just nodding heads essentially. Well, okay, so what we're doing. 622 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: What we're doing so say is why does this really significant? 623 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: Is this product literally helps you to learn, It teaches you, 624 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: It helps you, helps to educate you about your own mind. 625 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Because what happens is you actually put this inside, it 626 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: actually conforms to the interior anatomy so that it fits 627 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: and so then it's stay put so it and all 628 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: of the functions, the G stimulation, the critteral stimulation, the 629 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: labyal stimulation. Um, all of these are independent of one another, 630 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: so they are completely customizable. So what this allows you 631 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: to do is allows you to learn more about your 632 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: own body and about your own pleasure and how you 633 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: get there. So when you can start to do that 634 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: and learn more about your own pleasure, then you can 635 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: take that knowledge and you can tell your partner this 636 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: is exactly what I like. It's amazing, and you can 637 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: now help me get there. So what that does is 638 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: it actually brings people closer to betther it a lot 639 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: of people to understand one another better. So when I realized, 640 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, crap, I'm going to be the CEO of 641 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: a text to my company, so this is going to 642 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: be interesting. Um, we have like, oh this is it 643 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: was It was a little and hear me because um, 644 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: you know you you kind of have to reserve yourself too, 645 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: you know. Understanding this is the rest of my life now, Um, 646 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm forever gonna be known as the specto CEO probably 647 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: and uh and and but when I started to understand 648 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: the the ability to teach, the ability for education, the 649 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 1: ability for UM for gender equity within this space because 650 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: of this education and being able to help couples and 651 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: people understand each other better UM and hopefully erase those 652 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: sexual stigmas. That's when I got really excited. I was like, yes, 653 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: I am so signed on now. So it's and I 654 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: think that, UM, that's actually we run into that issue 655 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times with UM with when we hire employees. 656 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: We find the most perfect fit, people that have like 657 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: the perfect skills, and I have glad. I love my 658 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: team so much. They're so amazing. I'd like I could 659 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: get like cheered up about it. I love them. They're 660 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: absolutely in kind of UM when like a couple of 661 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: times when people have come on, they're you know, they're 662 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: a little bit apprehensive about the fact that you know, 663 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: it's it's sex text, it's technically the adult industry. Then 664 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: we sit there and we talk about how this particular 665 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: product can change how we view sex and how we 666 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of the the adult industry, 667 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: how we want to break that mold. We want to 668 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: be mainstream. We want to teach people about pleasure, about 669 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: sect without having a segment wrapped around it, and about 670 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: what we want to do in bigger spaces where gender 671 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: equities involved, And we talk about the the values as 672 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: a company, about respect, empowerment, and integrity, and about how 673 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: that drives every decision that we make, including the one 674 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: to release the press release about the e S, including 675 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: the one that throws us to say, we don't want that. 676 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: We don't really want the word back unless we can 677 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: actually make policy changes. Those are scary decisions to make. 678 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: But when we know that that drives that, UM, those 679 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: values drive your decisions. UM, it was really amazing. Values 680 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: drive your decisions, and then you can never make the 681 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: wrong choice. And so when we've had that talk with 682 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: new employees coming on UM, as soon as we talked 683 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: about that, it's pretty much hard to not get them 684 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: to sign on the data line. It's amazing and fun 685 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: and but like I said, it's uh kind of positioning 686 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: yourself and trying to know like how how deep do 687 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: you go? How how much do you envelop yourself and 688 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: controversial issues like orsition, like being like but I mean 689 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: those are as a business, extremely touchy issues to get 690 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: involved in. Every single time we have the chance to 691 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: make a decision about whether or not we do get 692 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: involved in something like that. It's it's always been yes, 693 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: we do, because that's what we believe in, and it's 694 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: always been the right choice. And I think the fact 695 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: that and it's not just the fact that people respond 696 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: to it, um positively because they believe in the same choices. UM, 697 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: it's that we truly believe it's the right choice. And 698 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that even our investors believe that it's the 699 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: right choice. They see that, they see the positivity and 700 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 1: the profitability in being an ethical company that has believed 701 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: that are rooted in true equity, in seeing um, you know, 702 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: men and women and minority easy and uh, people with handicaps, 703 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: everybody be able to sit at the same table to 704 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: make decisions about products that change our lives and make 705 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: decisions about policies that change our lives. They see, they 706 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: see the good in that, they see, um, that that's 707 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. So it's like I said, 708 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: it's been a wild ride, but we're not done yet, No, 709 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: not at all. Um. We have a little bit more 710 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: to discuss, but first we're gonna pause for one more 711 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: quick break for working more sensitive and we're back. Thank you. 712 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: And I feel like every week we get an email 713 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: from a listener about um, um bro bro gamer like, yeah, yeah, 714 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: bro Topia things like that, and it sounds like you 715 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: and every everyone on your team are really spearheading like 716 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: a space and are more inclusive space. Um So, could 717 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about um ways that people 718 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: can do that what you think is going on with 719 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: inclusive inclusivity and diversity, because I do think that we're 720 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: like at a point of I'm hoping we're at least 721 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about it, um yeah, and any advice for people 722 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: out there, um, I think we definitely are a space 723 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: where I think it's actually popular to talk about it. 724 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: It's just the the issue is, does do people truly 725 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: understand how to pursue creating an inclusive and diverse space 726 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: or do they just want to talk about it? Right? So, 727 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: part of what we're very committed to doing is in 728 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: part of uh Like, the definition of one of our 729 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: values is um is about being biased towards actions. It's 730 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: it's making sure that we're not just talking about things um. 731 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: Uh So. Part of part of the definition of the 732 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: integrity is that you know, we're always truthful, were truthful 733 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: of ourselves, were truthful with with our community, and we 734 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: hold ourselves accountable, but we always move with a bias 735 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: towards action. So, like I said, we can talk about 736 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: creating these spaces, but if you're not doing anything, you're 737 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: not doing anything. So UM, truly understanding how to do 738 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 1: that is is creating framework. Um, you have to create 739 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: a framework, you have to create those values. You have 740 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: to understand what it's like to be in somebody's shoes 741 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: who is in a minority space. And you may not 742 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: be able to truly understand what it's like being in 743 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: their shoes. But what you can do is is create 744 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: the safest space possible for those individuals. Because somebody that 745 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: doesn't feel safe one isn't going to sign onto your company, 746 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: but to their never gonna thrive. If you it's I mean, 747 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: then we're just talking about masilo parierarchy of needs. You 748 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: don't feel face, you have a roof over your head, 749 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, stood in your stomach, you can never thrive. 750 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: So what we're trying to do is create a space 751 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: where um, it's space for people to talk about their opinions, 752 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: about their thoughts, about their values, about their culture, UM, 753 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: about like how they view religion or what their religion is, 754 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: and and truly be open minded and never passed judgment 755 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: on anyone. UM. But always talk about ideas and talk 756 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: about values, and we approach ideas and we might attack ideas, 757 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: but we never attack the individual. We we might say, hey, 758 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm really curious about this idea, or how how this, 759 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: how this happens, or you know, YadA YadA, but um, 760 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: you never attacked the individual. And also creating a face 761 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 1: space too is is also understanding that sometimes people don't 762 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about their culture. They will they will 763 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: bring that to you. Sometimes people don't want to talk 764 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that they're thinking they're thinking about having 765 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: a kid because it makes them feel unsafe. Sometimes people 766 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: would don't want to talk about how they how they 767 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: do their hair because it makes them feel ostracized. So 768 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: understanding that if like putting yourself in your in their shoes, um, 769 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: and understanding the things that might make them feel unsafe 770 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: when you even when you just want to have a 771 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: casual conversation, when people will have a casual conversation about 772 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: something that makes them feel comfortable, that could actually make 773 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: somebody else feel very uncomfortable. And to me, that's selfish. 774 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: When you just approach somebody and you say, hey, so 775 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: who braise your hair? Um? Maybe they don't want to 776 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: talk about who breaks their hair. Maybe you should let 777 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: them talk about it when they are comfortable talking about it. Um, 778 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't be asking female, so, how many kids 779 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: are you planning on having? Maybe I'm not finding on 780 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: having any. Maybe I was said it. Who says it's 781 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: your business? Who says that that's going to impact the 782 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: way I work? Um? So it's it's really about just 783 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: creating a safe space where people feel like they can 784 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: live their best lives and they can have their own 785 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: opinions and thoughts and viewpoints without ever feeling like they 786 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: might be personally attacked for those thoughts and viewpoints. Um. Because, 787 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: to be very honest, part of the reason I'm hiring 788 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: these people is because I want those thoughts in view points. 789 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: I want these these um these ideas that aren't an 790 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: alignment with my own so that I can think about UM, 791 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: so I can think about how we can change things 792 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: for the better, because if we keep innovating inside of 793 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: the tunnel, we're not going to go anywhere. So UM, 794 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've heard the term. 795 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: I think it's homofully it's the it's dependency for for 796 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: people to only hire people that um or or or 797 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: to see it with people that look like them and 798 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: talk like them and sound like them, and one of 799 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: the same schools and you know, the same color skin, 800 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: the thame type of hair like And I've seen people 801 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: do that, they hire in a funnel and you never 802 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: get me there because everybody has the same damn line 803 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: of thoughts and so understanding. Yes, it's not just about 804 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: it's not just about diversity. It's not just about creating 805 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: equity and creating inclusive spaces. It's about understanding the impact 806 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: of having that diverse face and having a face space 807 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: for people to truly innovate on their own and be 808 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: able to feel like they can have their ideas and 809 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: their thoughts and not feel attacked. Um So, I doesn't 810 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 1: want to come full circle. People talk about diversity, they 811 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: talk about inclusivity, and a lot of the time I 812 00:50:50,480 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: feel like people are talking about in their aud love it. 813 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: It's true, I love it. Did you ever imagine you 814 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: would be here out of curiosity? You know what? Actually? 815 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: UM not here? No, I I always wanted to do. 816 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 1: I was one of those people that I went to school. 817 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: I got a Fullloride scholarship as a nurse thing as 818 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: a as a Navy nurse, and I had to drop 819 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: out halfway through. UM. So I'm one of those kids 820 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: that I couldn't even I didn't finish school. And it 821 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: was partially because I was like, is this really what 822 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: I want to do? Maybe this is what I want 823 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: to do. I never quite knew what I wanted to do. 824 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: All I knew is that I wanted to lead, and 825 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: that I had some some opinions that people seem to 826 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: really garner to, and and you know, people tended to 827 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: want to follow me and and I at some point 828 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: I realized I wanted to be in a position the leadership. 829 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: And I literally one day I was like, I think 830 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: I just want to be a CEO. I mean they 831 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: do all of the things, they're never more deaths obvious 832 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: because it's totally overworked. So that sounds like a great idea. 833 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: And UM, I I ended up and doing. I ended 834 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: up as an executive assist for a few months for 835 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: UM a different company. UH and and I realized, yeah, 836 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: I bet I could do this better. And probably about 837 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: six months after that, I found the Lord of Carlo 838 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: and um it was. I feel like I was the 839 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: kid that never knew what I wanted to do. And 840 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: I think at the same time, I always knew what 841 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I just couldn't actually define it. 842 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: Who who goes to school or who grows up in 843 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: in in elementary school or even in high school and goes, 844 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a CEO of something or other 845 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: at some point in my line. You don't. But I 846 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: do know that I wanted to leave. And I know 847 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: that the reason that I I went into the Navies 848 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: because I wanted to lead. I wanted to become an officer, 849 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: and that wasn't that wasn't in in the cards for me. 850 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: But uh, I knew that I still wanted that, and 851 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 1: I kept driving towards it. And like I said, nobody, 852 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: nobody ever just goes and I think I'm gonna be 853 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: the CEO of this sex place company something. But but 854 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: it was the biggest moment I realized that this is 855 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: exactly what I was meant to do. Is when um, 856 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: I realized the kind of the kind of change that 857 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: we could profer for the rest of society and the 858 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of impact that we could create. And that really 859 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of revolutionized the way that I looked at it, 860 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: and I've I think I've embraced it from the from 861 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 1: the get go, and I'm just like, I'm I'm either 862 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: bald in or I'm just or I'm completely out. We're 863 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: going to sail and we've never looked back, and we've 864 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: been We've been going really hard since day one. I 865 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: think a lot of people can relate to see what 866 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 1: you just said of feeling like you never know what 867 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: you want to do and at the same time, you 868 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: know there's there's something you just you don't know what 869 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,479 Speaker 1: it is. And I think a lot of listeners will 870 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: find comfort or at least like, oh, I'm not the 871 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 1: only one that feels that way. Um from hearing that. 872 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: UM yeah, before we close out, is there anything else 873 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 1: you want to include? Um? Any questions we didn't ask 874 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: that we should have asked. UM I think actually just 875 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: too um So, just to remind everyones we are going 876 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: to do that pre so this summer, so um it 877 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: might be the only way that you can get your 878 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 1: hands on, let's say, before we do the official launch, 879 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: which will be this fall. Um So, if you go 880 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: to our website, if Laura de Carlo Corom with l 881 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: the Carlo d I c A R l O dot com. 882 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: You can actually sign up for a newsletter. Um, if 883 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: you sign up for our newsletter, then you probably also 884 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: get a little bit more information about the other producing Um. 885 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,359 Speaker 1: So uh that and you'll you notified about the pret down. 886 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: And then I think the other thing is for folks 887 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: that are listening that I might not know what they 888 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: want to do, or they might be down on themselves 889 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 1: about you know, maybe not finishing school or not feeling 890 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: like they know what they want to do with their lives. 891 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: They're not having directions. Um, there was a lot of 892 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: time where I felt like I had no idea where 893 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: I was going, and I like I didn't have any direction. 894 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: And I'm definitely a perfectionist, and I hated that. I 895 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: felt like it made me left of a person. And 896 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: I know that the entire most of my life and 897 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: then especially in the first year and all the way 898 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: up until now, I still UM experience UM imposter syndrome. 899 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: Crazy like this, this inability to understand how powerful I 900 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: can be and how much how much experience I've already garnered, 901 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: and you know, in the last two decades, and I 902 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: don't give myself enough credit on a daily basis, and 903 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: particularly as females, um we do that to ourselves. So 904 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 1: for the people that don't feel like they're enough, you 905 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: definitely are. And it's it's there. It's just it's about 906 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: it's about getting to that point and realizing your dream 907 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: and absolutely not giving up. Just don't give up and 908 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: don't stay quiet. Do you believe in something? Because I 909 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't and I still never thought that we would get here, 910 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: but we did and we're still going and that's what 911 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: it takes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we we talked about that 912 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, And I know for some people 913 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: they hear it and they're they're you're when you're in 914 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: that like low place, and you you just think, no, 915 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't need someone else telling me that I have 916 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: to keep trying. But it's true. That's true. It is. 917 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you like in the before I did 918 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: where before I founded the company, like there were months 919 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: at a time where I would try on a daily basis, 920 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: literally on a daily basis, there were people that basically 921 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: told me, oh, that's a cute idea of when I 922 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: talked to them about my business plan, I like, you 923 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: want it eat a dick right am once again. So um, 924 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not easy, it's never and it 925 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: doesn't get easier. I'm going to be really honest, but 926 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: it does become more and more and more rewarding and 927 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: it and I I've always felt like a high purpose, 928 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: but today I feel like I have more purpose and 929 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: I did definitely have more like to deal with. And 930 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: definitely the imposter syndrome doesn't go away, it doesn't get easier, 931 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: but it sure as I was rewarding. There you go, beautiful, 932 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: there you go. We're so excited to have you. And 933 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: we should say this isn't a sponsored episode. We're just fans, 934 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: and we also think it's important to discuss, like we've 935 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about female pleasure lately and how 936 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: it's so yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not a sponsored episode, 937 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 1: just just fans. Yeah, my name on that waiting list 938 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: somewhere so I can find that. I'm not gonna lie. 939 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: I keep telling, and he was like, we gotta, we've 940 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: gotta talk to her. We gotta talk to I need 941 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: to know. I need to know what it's gonna come out. 942 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little too excited. Maybe we've been like on 943 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: a ram page this morning too. I'm just like perfect 944 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: on all of the issues. I love it. Yeah, good 945 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: good fit. Yeah. Samantha always gives away her scheme on air. 946 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,479 Speaker 1: I don't know why you do that. I do, don't. 947 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: I always give away your plan, your master place. Why 948 00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a good like this for anyone, Because you're 949 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: already going to know how to know. I think that's 950 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: the perfect nemesis. Um. So, Laura, I know you gave 951 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: the website. Is there any other place you want to 952 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: shout out where people can find you or any other 953 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: resources or anything like that. Yeah, I mean we're on 954 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: social media and um, we're actually we're growing really faster. 955 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: To really please be sit down in a during a 956 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: marketing meeting, it was like, holy moly, really that's great. Um, 957 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: but you can find us on Instagram and on Twitter 958 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: at Laura de Carlo. Again that's l O r A 959 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: d I c A R l O underscore h q 960 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: um and you can find me personally. Um, I'm linked 961 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: to both. Um in the in my last name is Haddoc. 962 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: Probably actually gonna change my name to de Carlo because 963 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: people are really confused about it. But um, people are 964 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: calling me Mr Carlo all the time, like yeah, yeah, yeah, 965 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And we're also on Facebook, uh so um yeah, 966 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: coming and come and find us because we do have 967 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: some pretty funny that we put up and we do 968 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: talk about some of the hard issues um so uh 969 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: And like I said, I've got a great social media 970 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: team that we're putting together. In our digital marketing team 971 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: is is pretty amazing as well. So um, they've always 972 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: got really great content and just like yes, harms up 973 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: in the year please so awesome. Well it's fun. Yeah 974 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: that sounds fun. Yeah that team yeah hey wait oh sorry, 975 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: you should definitely expect that out listeners. Um. You can 976 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: also find us on Instagram as stuff I've Never Told 977 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: You and on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast an emails 978 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: at stuff Media, mom Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 979 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Laura for joining us. Yeah, I'm 980 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: so excited. I know, I can't wait. I'm We're getting 981 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: so quotes and I'm just like it's pretty much selling 982 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: itself right now, right I am. Yeah, I'm I'm just 983 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: a balling nerve pretty much all day every day and lately, 984 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: but it's I think it's all good, all good. Thanks, yeah, 985 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: thanks as always to our super producer Andrew Howard Andrew, 986 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 1: thanks to you for listening stuff I've never told you. 987 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: His protection off I Heard Radio's How Stuff Works. For 988 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my Heart Radio is the I Hear 989 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Radio app, Have a podcast, or wherever you listen to 990 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.