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Speaker 1: All right, Well, our guest is our guest is.

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Speaker 2: Ready to be like to I like, this is a

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Speaker 2: man that I just loved so much and it's so

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen him in a while, but he is

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Speaker 3: an ECW original. He is big sal he grows the ogo.

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Speaker 3: What's with the mask?

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Speaker 2: Son?

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Speaker 3: Where are you?

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Speaker 4: I just I'm actually uh, I left work and I

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Speaker 4: was am in between visits.

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Speaker 5: I'm in between appointments today.

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Speaker 3: Well, I thank you for fitting up.

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Speaker 4: In because it's you, and you're like, oh, you never talk.

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Speaker 3: To me, never, No, you don't you ignore me?

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Speaker 5: Gonna make I am gonna make time for friends because he.

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Speaker 3: Puts shut up. You put my husband over every chance

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Speaker 3: you get. But when it's me, it's just like I

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Speaker 3: don't even care. Or but I was. I was explaining

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Speaker 3: to people who had you know who who either think

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Speaker 3: How different you look now?

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Speaker 5: I got a lot of Valpuccio heat.

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Speaker 3: Did you funny? Not funny? Not funny that you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not making late of death or anything, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can see it a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Really from where he was like six foot.

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Speaker 3: No he was bigger than sixteen.

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Speaker 5: No he was not. I thought, anyhow, what do you

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Speaker 3: One here and argue?

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Speaker 5: Can we just arguing? You're the one?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I thought of the other day

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Speaker 3: after I spoke to you. You don't remember Sam and

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Speaker 3: I were like friends, like outside and I used to

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Speaker 3: the business, right, Like, it wasn't just I sawmn you know,

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Speaker 3: remember the time when we tried to make a movie

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Speaker 3: and you you were the guys.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, the guys.

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Speaker 4: Uh the the we were supposed to just do clip

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Speaker 5: It was fucking ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, So we were trying to make like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I guess it was a horror movie.

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Speaker 4: It was a hard it was a horror it was

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Speaker 4: it was supposed to be a clip of a horror movie.

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Speaker 4: And it was supposed to be something that someone like

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Speaker 4: found footage. So we wanted to make it look like

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Speaker 3: Like killed witch sare witch project thing, right, and it.

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Speaker 5: Just and just nothing worked. Out for me. It just

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Speaker 5: none of it worked.

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Speaker 3: The funniest is I'm sitting in a chair right.

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Speaker 4: There was a movie on in the background too. We

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Speaker 3: But Sale is telling me, okay, like you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to to like be like a killer kind of thing,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and choke you.

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Speaker 4: All we needed to do is get a clip, one

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, he kept like he's choking me,

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Speaker 3: and it's the it's like the lightest choke ever. And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Sal, what's some energy and a weird something? Right,

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Speaker 3: He's got his hands around me. I what was I

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Speaker 5: But it was nothing. It was nothing.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't anything dead, No, it was it sounds it

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Speaker 4: sounds horrible like now now like saying it.

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Speaker 5: It sounds terrible.

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Speaker 3: We have to do you have that which I have?

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Speaker 5: So I have?

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Speaker 4: I had, I had all these different stuff that like

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Speaker 5: Spinning a ship all over the place. I had all

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Speaker 4: When I moved from back from Kentucky back to Jersey,

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Speaker 4: all the tapes disappear. Like when I say disappear. When

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Speaker 4: The only thing I could think of, I'm like, did

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Speaker 4: because it would be great if this somewhere turned up somewhere,

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Speaker 4: like the landlord found all these.

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Speaker 3: The landlord found them and opened the YouTube channel, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't even know random people throwing up blood

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I just thought of that, and I

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And before we get into like wrestling and stuff, tell

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Speaker 3: everyone about the mine cup because this thing. Chad doesn't know. Chad,

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Speaker 3: did you do?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Sal?

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Speaker 1: I never met Sal. I just you know, I've heard

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Speaker 1: him on different podcasts before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm like an idiot. Hey, what's up? So

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like an idiot.

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Speaker 3: I'm the idiot.

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Speaker 5: That's okay, it's all right.

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Speaker 3: Well I did it, Okay. I was just so jazzed

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Speaker 3: to see you because I haven't seen your beautiful face

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Speaker 3: in a very long time. So there we go. So,

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Speaker 3: so chat, there was this thing called the mine cup,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna let Sal explain it. But if you knew,

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Speaker 3: you knew, and that's all I have to say.

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Speaker 5: So okay, let me let me ask you question. Chad.

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Speaker 4: When you were a kid and you were bored and

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Speaker 4: I think your mom and dad were doing something and

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Speaker 4: you were stuck there with him, that was your most

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Speaker 5: Look for shit to do. Yeah, coldly, get right.

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Speaker 4: So, and that's when you become an asshole kid, and

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Speaker 3: An asshole adult.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: This all came from us waiting for to do promos,

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Speaker 4: waiting for checks, waiting for everything. We were always stuck

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Speaker 4: to collect big gulp cups like the old just the

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Speaker 4: I had I had a collection, no joke. I didn't

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Speaker 4: for more shit, and we saw we saw Raven walk by.

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Speaker 4: talking into the cup. You know, these people are preposterous.

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't stand this I'm hearing. I have

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Speaker 4: start talking as if I'm the voice inside of Raven's head.

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Speaker 4: So Kirino's laughing, I'm laughing, and that's how it's It

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Speaker 4: So at point me and Steve Corino are dying and

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Speaker 4: Franny comes walking in, she goes, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: through we just had something to say about it. Well,

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Speaker 4: their mind had something to say about it. And we

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Speaker 4: I wrote on the side of the glass mine cup

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Speaker 4: can hear everybody's inner thoughts, so great, And when Dreamer

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Speaker 5: Twenty four. That's the only thing that walks in. I

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Speaker 3: That's so great. Oh my god, I never got to

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Speaker 5: No, you were always sitting up top, were we Well?

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Speaker 3: I think I played that because I didn't want you

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Speaker 3: that cup. I have to. But that's one of the memories,

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Speaker 3: you know. There were so many positive things that came

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Speaker 3: to bring the mine cup up. Because that was so fun.

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Speaker 4: Or the day the day Ravens found out about the

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Speaker 5: And I threw the mine cup away. I said, well,

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Speaker 4: I threw the plastic mind cup away in front of him,

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Speaker 5: It wasn't disgusted.

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Speaker 3: It was so great. Do you want to talk about

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Speaker 3: the past or what you're doing now? What do you

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, Sal, how'd you get into wrestling?

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Speaker 4: I walked into a game and I paid a man

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Speaker 4: three thousand dollars. Yeah, fall and.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Who was your trainer?

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Speaker 5: Sal, Johnny Runs, Tommy and Taz And uh.

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Speaker 3: Do you regret that day? No?

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Speaker 4: You know what, there were points where I did and

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Speaker 4: never and never because it was Johnny like honestly, being

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Speaker 4: being a marked going into the business. Everybody is right

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Speaker 4: because everybody's like, oh, I can't weed to do it,

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Speaker 4: and and you know, you think when you're back in

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Speaker 4: I remember him.

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Speaker 5: It was a job or people say that ship.

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Speaker 4: And you're like, okay, well, now the time is coming past.

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Speaker 4: You realize guys like that are fucking legendary because they

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Speaker 4: made they made their fucking life in this business that.

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Speaker 5: Is so uncertain. You don't know if you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: your job tomorrow, right, you know, Hey, Jerry Brisco, how

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Speaker 4: No great guy's been around forever, But like those guys

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Speaker 4: have done these these these they keep their their spots

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Speaker 4: because they know how to work their professionals.

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Speaker 5: And I am, I am.

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Speaker 4: Never never have I been so thankful that I've worked,

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Speaker 4: and that I was trained by guy, a guy like

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Speaker 4: Johnny Rods and guys like and I got to meet

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Speaker 4: guys like Dreamer and Taz and all those dudes who

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Speaker 4: you say whatever you want about him. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: socially they are probably stunted to kindergarten levels, But.

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Speaker 5: It's those guys.

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Speaker 4: I love all of you. I love I love all No,

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Speaker 4: stop it. I don't need a job anymore from any

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Speaker 3: Don't you can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I say with this interview though. People

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Speaker 4: But that's and here's the thing. I was an eighties

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Speaker 3: Sorry I disappointed you.

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Speaker 4: uh you know Francine's last name. Everybody knows where what

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Speaker 5: They all know.

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Speaker 4: They all know because no Number one, because your husband

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Speaker 3: No he does not. I did. I put a picture

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Speaker 3: That was in Japan. I'm over in Tokyo, but not

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Speaker 4: I trained. I trained with Devon. I trained with Tommy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I trained with them, and that's when I

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Speaker 5: Uh, Devon I met, you know, he came through.

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Speaker 5: A video clip.

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Speaker 4: There was basically a promo tape of me just constantly,

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Speaker 5: It was so I was.

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Speaker 4: I did it on two VCRs of me just dropping

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Speaker 4: Meat like whipping Divon with a with a money bag

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Speaker 4: And it was just me beating the ship out of

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Speaker 4: found out Paul everybody watched him.

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Speaker 5: Everybody fucking watched it. I was liked.

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Speaker 4: And Paul, you know, I came I came into Queen's

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Speaker 5: I did it.

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Speaker 4: I did the deal with Spike. And I come walking

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Speaker 5: Like what happened.

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Speaker 4: Spike comes in the back and normally, you know, Spike

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Speaker 5: Okay? And Shane goes, you did it. I can't believe it,

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Speaker 5: And I'm like what what the fuck? What the fuck

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh ship, oh ship, oh ship, and then

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Speaker 5: Pants?

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Speaker 3: How fun?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I remember when you first Yeah, when you first came in,

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Speaker 3: I think it worked so well for you.

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Speaker 5: I like they want to do with me?

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Speaker 4: They were they were gonna make me, uh they put

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Speaker 5: No, it was I was always in the Schmas with

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Speaker 4: And then they were gonna put me with Danny and

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Speaker 4: I'm like no, Valente and he goes and he looks

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Speaker 5: You're a mora, You're you're a big Idiot's good for you.

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Speaker 3: I love the Perrys with edo Y and what else

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Speaker 5: So ironically on you.

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Speaker 3: That's what everybody says.

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Speaker 5: Kathy's came out and they were doing the bit and

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what the fuck is happening? And I

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Speaker 4: that ain't gonna last.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 4: I remember thinking the maker the show, the show, and

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Speaker 4: I like the show, they're like cool ratings pulled Furst

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's funny how life works out, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then to go ahead and meet people that I've

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Speaker 4: Like people who like don't don't lived in our area.

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Speaker 4: and come to find out, Greek god Papa Don used

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Speaker 4: It's just so fucking weird that through the business, all

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Speaker 3: Do you consider it the best time of your career.

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Speaker 5: Of my career? Sharks?

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Speaker 3: I've never I've never talked to somebody from e c

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Speaker 5: You know, And you know what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's because we're all fucked up. It's because

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Speaker 3: Like to think it's because we're all friends and we

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Speaker 4: Why are we friends because we're all fucked up all

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Speaker 3: Okay, some of us more than others. We just have

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what you thought, what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: or girls. It was a thousand other things. But we

446
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: were all fucked up, and that was the thing. The

447
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 4: thing was we didn't want to be anywhere else, right,

448
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like we all were happy

449
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: being there because we were all accepted.

450
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Speaker 5: With each other.

451
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's nice that you mentioned that, because I tell

452
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Speaker 3: a story on here. I've told a story. Rather when

453
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: I got offered to jump to WWF, and it was early,

454
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: or I was with I think I was with the Pimples.

455
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 3: It was very early, and I was so comfortable with

456
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: ECW and so green, and I was number one. I

457
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: was afraid, but for the most part, I loved everybody

458
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Speaker 3: in the locker room and I didn't want to go,

459
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: no matter how much money they were going to offer me.

460
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: I stayed making peanuts because this was my home and

461
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: this is where I wanted to be. If you got

462
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: a call, maybe you did. I don't know if they

463
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Speaker 3: wanted to pull you. Do you think you would laughed

464
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: or didn't so you got an offer.

465
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Speaker 4: It was it wasn't WWE, but yeah, w c W

466
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Speaker 4: And then I just tell us here's the other thing too.

467
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Speaker 5: I'll I a little inside baseball. I guess I didn't

468
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Speaker 5: know what to do at this point.

469
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Speaker 4: So I got I had an agent come to me,

470
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: and uh, he was like, oh, you know, I wanna

471
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Speaker 4: I want to do movies and this and that. I said, okay,

472
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: cool man, I'm down. But then he wanted to get

473
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 4: more involved in wrestling. He was more of an entertainment agent.

474
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: He wanted to get involved in wrestling, so he wanted

475
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Speaker 4: to get his foot in the door that way. And

476
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: he's like, oh, we can do this, we could do this,

477
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: we can do that, we can do all kinds of things.

478
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Speaker 4: And I didn't want to because, like I number one,

479
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: I was still I was like a couple of a year.

480
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 5: In at ecw okay.

481
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, well I don't I don't want

482
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: to leave here, number one, and I don't want to

483
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: rock the boat that I'm here.

484
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: So at that point, you know, I wound up.

485
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Speaker 4: I went separate ways with the agent because I'm like,

486
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: we just want two different things. You want to get

487
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: in and I don't want to bring you in here

488
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 4: because it's not my place.

489
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know anything. I'm still green here.

490
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: So did he want to get into maybe be in

491
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: the business or did he want to get in to

492
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: use other talent for.

493
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: His conjects went on to work with a couple of guys,

494
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: like a couple of big names, and like, you know,

495
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 4: no issue with him, I have no heat. But it

496
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: was just at the time, I didn't want to go anywhere.

497
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: I didn't want to I didn't want things to change.

498
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: You know, great, Yeah, if they were offered more money,

499
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: i'd been like, yes, please, but I still like, I

500
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: just I didn't want to leave. I didn't want to

501
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 4: change what I was doing.

502
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: What is the w c W story.

503
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's more or less the story that so.

504
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: This agent came from Atlanta and he.

505
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: Knew, he knew people, he had, he had an end,

506
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: he had some people that he was talking to, YadA, YadA, YadA,

507
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: and I just I decided not to go.

508
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm not interested in that. He's like, no,

509
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: but it could be more money, it'll be more less travel.

510
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 5: I said no, I'm good. Oh okay, So.

511
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't really know what the offer was.

512
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 5: Well here, that's the thing.

513
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: This isn't a I'm not gonna I just don't want

514
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: to like throw out his name because like I said

515
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: his name, But again, like it was, it was offered

516
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 4: to me to do this and i'll we can get

517
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: you in, and I didn't want to because also I

518
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: think there's I think and again, I don't want to

519
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: make this a fucking deep show on psychology.

520
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: Psychology, No you can, because that was the theme of

521
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: our patriots.

522
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 5: You missed that.

523
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: I actually cried my eyes out earlier, and that's why

524
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 3: we made it.

525
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: Okay they so we all, I think we all have

526
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 4: some of us have a self sabotage thing where we

527
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: don't want to We didn't want to put ourselves out

528
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: there like somebody would have came and said we're gonna

529
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: put you in a w W E as the champ

530
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: top top shelf ship.

531
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 5: People would be like, oh yeah, I'd love that.

532
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure with that because you don't

533
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: know if you're going to keep that job for more

534
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: than a week. So again, it's one of those things

535
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: that I'm good where I am. I can build on

536
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: what I'm doing here.

537
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: I liked being a big fish in a small pond.

538
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: I like that a lot rather than being in deep

539
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: waters and not knowing my way around.

540
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: That scares me and uh, you know, the fish nickname

541
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: never stuck with you, thankfully.

542
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: Thankfully, yes, but now that's interesting. I didn't know about

543
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: the the w CW things, so see you heard it here.

544
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: First I deliver this exclusive as always tell everybody what

545
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: you're doing. Now.

546
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 5: I'm working. Actually I went back to a company that

547
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 5: I was working with a while back.

548
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 4: Actually last time we were together, and I did I

549
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 4: did an interview with Bill after yeah, and uh, I'm

550
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: working back with special needs adults were working in the

551
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: community and I job coached them.

552
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: God forbid. Okay, you're the coach.

553
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 5: Dare you?

554
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: You're sitting there in big sale walks in as your coach.

555
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: Do you use the mind cup? Do you let them detect?

556
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: No?

557
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: See, I can go in and it's funny because I

558
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: go in and I'm very like I'm trying to try

559
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: to be I try to be casual with them, with

560
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: with my guys, and they just they just are all.

561
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: I'll come in, so how are we doing to and

562
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: the guys like today fucking sucks like whoa, whoa whoa easy,

563
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: don't filter it.

564
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: It's wonderful.

565
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: It is one great job though. You're you're doing good.

566
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what I got such a jump

567
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: on working with developmental disability disabled people from working in

568
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: easy w.

569
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I got.

570
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, you're an idiot. I do love Yelle,

571
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: but you're an idiot. Are you still doing the thing

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: over on Versu's network? Do you want to plug that?

573
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: We do The Conspiracy Horseman, okay, and then we have

574
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: The Hard Junk Yard, which is my show me, my

575
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: friend Chuck and our friend Cat. We review awful, awful

576
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 4: horror movies. I love it, video games, we cover all

577
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: of it. Everything in the horror business.

578
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 5: We try.

579
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: And it started out kind of as a let's let's

580
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: do this, like you want to do it? Like, okay,

581
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: let's do it. And then we just started doing it

582
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: and Ben was like, we'll put it on the network.

583
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

584
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 5: We've made it a full show out of it. Now

585
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, uh, okay, so I.

586
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Can I get let me just interrount. I guess say,

587
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: The Conspiracy Horseman is is great. I mean, there's there's

588
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: no two ways around it. I mean that you want

589
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: to talk about some topics that come by that can

590
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: really mess with the old noodle and get you thinking

591
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: it's it's always fun to get the four different takes

592
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: that you guys have.

593
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: We just had Richard Gage on, one of the architects

594
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: for h He has the you know, he follows that

595
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: the truth of nine to eleven, and he has all

596
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: the scientific facts and all these issues that people ignore.

597
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: So he came on. He was he was a great guest.

598
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: I'll be honest.

599
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be really stiff and stodgy,

600
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, I wasn't kind of looking forward

601
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: to it. I was worried he got on. My man

602
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: was he was ready to go. He took his jacket off.

603
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: He threatened Stevie.

604
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: Jacket off.

605
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he pulled his jacket off the end of the show,

606
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: and we're like, anytime you want to go, and he

607
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: goes right now, he took his jacket off, and he

608
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: goes and I'll go right after that guy on the

609
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: right lower hand corner.

610
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: And it was so we just Richard Gage wants to

611
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: punch Stevie Richards right in the face.

612
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I pay to see that. I pay a dollar for

613
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: that match. That would be good.

614
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

615
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: So if they want to see you, they go to

616
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: the Roof Network and you got a couple of things

617
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: going on.

618
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: And then hamin Media Network where the Hard junk Yard.

619
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: So we got and we got some more stuff coming up.

620
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna be maybe going to more conventions once.

621
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Speaker 5: I hope.

622
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: So I hope to see you next year. I'm not

623
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: doing anything this year just because this year it was

624
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: a shit show. Well you know, a little little thing

625
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: here and there is happening out there if you didn't

626
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: hear about it. But hopefully twenty twenty one we can

627
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: get the gang back together and get that mine cup

628
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: flowing again. I would enjoy that. So, you know, I

629
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 3: kind of I kind of miss you.

630
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: I'm trying to who was it?

631
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: Somebody was somebody sent me the video of after You

632
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: and you and Beautiful Billy doing an interview, and I

633
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: kept walking through.

634
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: He kept coming through and trying to like interrupt, and

635
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: I just kept going, said, would you get.

636
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: The hell out of here, Like here's a thing.

637
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question. Now you've you you

638
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: were there, you've seen it at any point? Did it

639
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: see like I have heat with you?

640
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I think Bill thought, I think we're such

641
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: good workers, that Bill.

642
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: Because somebody sent me the video of the link and

643
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: they're like, I didn't realize you had heat with Franny,

644
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: and I'm like, wait, when I watched the video, I'm.

645
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: Like, how do you get heat out of that? I'm like,

646
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: if anything, Like, just what is it?

647
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: We were just kidding around with each other. That's what

648
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying people, because people don't know the dynamic between

649
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: you and I are between anybody in that locker room,

650
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: Like we could go on social media and have a

651
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: fake fight and and they'll believe it. And then we're

652
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: texting each other. Oh my god, do you do you

653
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: believe that they're falling for this? I mean.

654
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: That convention, I walked by, there was a group around

655
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: RVD and I walked by and I showed.

656
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: It him right.

657
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: And I showed him and he walked and he went

658
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: out and I go, move your fucking arm, and I

659
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: just kept walking right and he stopped and he looked.

660
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: Somebody caught a picture of him doing this. M yeah,

661
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: and it's like did he turned around and he's like, oh, hey,

662
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: John's how what's up? And I'm like hey, but I'm

663
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: like how he's going?

664
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: And so we started. But they completely didn't take those pictures.

665
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: They got the picture of me fucking bumping him and

666
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: him turning like this and give him the fucking look,

667
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's.

668
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: Great because they want to stir stuff up. Everybody's like,

669
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: that's what we were saying earlier. You always hear of

670
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: negative things because people love controversy. People don't put over

671
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: the positive enough in life, and it's it's unfortunate, but

672
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we're workers. We're workers until we die. We

673
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: can work anyone. So that's that's just inner blood. That's

674
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: how it is. I hate your guts. I never want

675
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: you on my show again.

676
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: Leaves, And it was a pleasure to have him.

677
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to be so mean to him, jeez,

678
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was such a pleasure to have him on.

679
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest asshole I've ever met in my life

680
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: is right there on the screen. But seriously, I have

681
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: not talked to you. What do you say.

682
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: I thought you were talking about measurements of assholes, and

683
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: I said, I know a girl who has a way

684
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: bigger asshole.

685
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 5: Oh my don't.

686
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: I don't know.

687
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: But it was actually, oh, you do know why.

688
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that later. But this was fine. This

689
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: is I love getting the boys on and going down

690
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: memory lane. So I'm glad you finally came home because

691
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: I've only been after you for I don't know months now.

692
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: Yes, she said that, and then this will be this

693
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: will be the uh ah, you're never around.

694
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: Hey, what are you doing? What? I can't do it today?

695
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: How about is me?

696
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: Did I not invite you and your wife to my

697
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: house right after you got married? Yes? How long have

698
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: you been married?

699
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: Bad memories?

700
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: How long have you been there?

701
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: Dude? I try not to remember.

702
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: How long have you been married?

703
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: Hang on? So ten, twelve, thirteen, seven.

704
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Years, seven years, seven years ago, I say to sal

705
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: come over, have dinner with me and my family seven years.

706
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: Seven years ago. I might be getting out by now.

707
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, Nick, anyways, offer still stands if you want to

708
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 3: come over after the pandemic. Okay, whatever, We'll keep in touch.

709
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on. Oh where can people find you?

710
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: You don't tweet?

711
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: No, I don't. I'm off Facebook. I don't tweet. You're

712
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 5: the worst Instagram things.

713
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: You're not good. You're not good with the social media media.

714
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: FU everybody on it.

715
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: Okay, well, fuck you and thanks for coming on and

716
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: love you, and uh but we will wait.

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: I got plugs, I do have to Okay, go ahead.

718
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 5: So and I'm terrible.

719
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: It's it's like I, if I did not have the

720
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 4: guys with me on the show, I would never put

721
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: my own ship over.

722
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: So I don't remember it.

723
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: That's why social media is important.

724
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: The hard junk Yard at ProtonMail dot com. That's how

725
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: you can get us in the hard junk Yard. I

726
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: have a phone number. It's a hot line.

727
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: You can call us. But I don't remember right now.

728
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 5: So that's a great perk. You can't remember.

729
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: He's the worst. He's the worst.

730
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I mean Media network. You can look

731
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: on there. You can get the Horsemen, you can get

732
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: all of our shows. You're on the Russo Network.

733
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: No I'm not. I'm off of the network.

734
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 5: What do you do?

735
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: I pulled myself why because I have a Patreon and

736
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: people were getting confused. Why do I have to go

737
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: on Russo's patreon when I'm on your patreon. They couldn't

738
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: hear my podcast? Oh so I said, this isn't helping Vince.

739
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

740
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm to be honest, like everybody's involved in the

741
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 4: Vince Russo Vince Russo brand stuff, and Vince is another

742
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: guy I knew back from Johnny Rod's days when he's

743
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: in a video store.

744
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: Right, he discussed that on my show as well his

745
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 3: video store. Yes, all right, soal well, get on, get.

746
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: On on Twitter, get us live on which Conspiracy Horsemen with

747
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: twitch tv backslash Conspiracy Horseman something like that, and then

748
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: Hard junk Yard we do. We don't do it live,

749
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 4: but after on Wednesdays, my producer Chuck, we do. Uh again,

750
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: it's twitch tv, twitch tv dot com, Backslash Hard junk

751
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: Yard and we do live video game streaming.

752
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 5: So we funk off there and just make fun of people. Awesome.

753
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: Well, when this comes out, we will promote your stuff

754
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: because you don't, so I will and I will help you.

755
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: I have other people to do it. They want to

756
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: do it.

757
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: Well, I got people good. Okay, you're good, You're You're awesome.

758
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: Glad to see you. Keep in touch.

759
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: Yet, it was very nice meeting you. Tell your lovely husband.

760
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 4: I will speak to him soon.

761
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: He will speak to you soon. Talks more than him

762
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: than he does to me. Thanks a lot. All right,

763
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: love to talk to you, you big jerk.

764
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: And there goes big Seal.

765
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: I got that in or not so big, sal, I

766
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: mean he's not as big as he used to be.

767
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: No, and that's why I said, a lot of people

768
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: probably won't recognize him. He lost a ton of weight,

769
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: so he walks into conventions and like everybody's like, who

770
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: is that guy? Yeah, I'm like, oh, that's big.

771
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 5: Sale grows on you.

772
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, and for our people, I mean, we talked

773
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: about Sal a couple of weeks ago when we talked

774
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: about the Scott hall An e CW we talked about Sal.

775
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the reference. Yeah, he's an old, old, dear

776
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: friend of mine and one of the people I keep

777
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: in touch with. But I haven't really seen him, you know,

778
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: we see each other at conventions. But tried to get

779
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: him the comfort dinner and lazy.

780
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: I love the story though about the mine cup, Like

781
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: that's the cool shit I like to hear about backstage. Yeah,

782
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather hear that shit all day long than foods dropped.

783
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Toe Hold was better than the other guy.

784
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: We we did so many things with the mine cups

785
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: in different towns, Like that coup was all over the place.

786
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: It was just it was such a such fun just

787
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: just you know, keeping ourselves busy.

788
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: And but like you said, waiting for checks and waiting

789
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: for promos and we know you had to finally, you

790
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: had to wait a long time for both of those,

791
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, a lot of time.

792
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: It was nice to have him on. Just know that

793
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: we love you and we appreciate you, and we thank

794
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: you for being a part of our family. And that's

795
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: a wrap.

796
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: The love, the ro