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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellancamps and cameradge Edge.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Alexia. We are recapping Real

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Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County. I felt like this episode at

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Speaker 2: moments I enjoy I like laughed. It wasn't so heavy

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Speaker 2: this episode. Did you agree? I agree?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, obviously there were some you know, instances

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Speaker 3: where it was a little heavy, but I like that

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Speaker 3: the girls had fun.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I always love when they go away on trips because

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Speaker 3: I feel like we see the best of them and

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Speaker 3: you get the best of both. It's kind of like

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Speaker 3: we have our moments, but we also have fun, and

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Speaker 3: they're they're actually a lot of fun, so it's fun

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Speaker 3: to watch.

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Speaker 2: What trip would you have rather gone on? Big Bear

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Speaker 2: or Looking Okay? So I love Tamara and I love

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Speaker 2: her house. I would love to go with tamoraw.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if Alexis was there, but I

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Speaker 3: would want to be on that on that trip, because like,

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Speaker 3: she doesn't shut up, and then all she talks about

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Speaker 3: is John. Like I liked her when we were at

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Speaker 3: iHeart she had other conversation thank God she didn't talk

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Speaker 3: about John. But I feel like every time she's with

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Speaker 3: the ladies, all she wants to talk about John, So

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Speaker 3: because I would have picked.

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Speaker 2: Do you think maybe she didn't talk about John so

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Speaker 2: much because we all talked so much, so we didn't

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Speaker 2: give her the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: No, she talked, but she was just being like light

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Speaker 3: and fun, and you know, we saw a different side

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Speaker 3: to her, thank god, because I mean it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't even want to watch her scenes.

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Speaker 3: I want to like fast forward because all she has

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Speaker 3: to talk about Johnny John.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I you know, yes, Well it starts

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Speaker 2: out where Heather tells Emily that she went so hard

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Speaker 2: on Jen about her rolex at dinner. Emily doesn't get

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Speaker 2: why Jen doesn't sell or hide the rolex if she

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Speaker 2: owes a bunch of people money. Emily says, the rolex

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Speaker 2: doesn't even work. She asked her what time and said

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work, do you Okay, Well, let me say

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Speaker 2: something about rolics.

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Speaker 3: Unless you wear your roles, unless you shake it, you know,

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Speaker 3: and unless you wear it every day, it's not going

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Speaker 3: to stay on time. So that doesn't mean that she

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Speaker 3: has the rolics. That doesn't work. It's just that you

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Speaker 3: have to wear your rolics like every day for it

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Speaker 3: to like stay on time. And I know that because

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Speaker 3: I wear like I don't wear mine. I don't set

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Speaker 3: my watch like, you know, for the time. And I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of us don't, you know, because we're

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Speaker 3: so used to the phone and we rely on the

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Speaker 3: phone that we really don't use the rolics for time.

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Speaker 2: But pro tip, if you have a Rolex and you

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Speaker 2: don't wear it every day, all you have to do

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Speaker 2: is shake it really hard and then it comes back alive.

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Speaker 3: So bad it does, but you have to like reset it,

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Speaker 3: you know. It depends Like I don't wear mine all

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Speaker 3: the time, so that that happens to it. But even

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Speaker 3: when I put it on, I don't even care to

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Speaker 3: set it properly because I rely on my phone.

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Speaker 2: My data's ever correct. I can say that for sure.

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Speaker 2: God I can't say that. Yeah, but I feel like,

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Speaker 2: but I love the fact that everybody's more offended about

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Speaker 2: the rolex discussion versus the being called dumb, Like I'd

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Speaker 2: be more said about being called dumb then, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I caught that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody even addressed that but you know, sometimes when

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Speaker 3: you're in it, like we get to see it, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they went back and said God, like I

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Speaker 3: would have been offended for that too, but like at

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Speaker 3: the moment, you just it doesn't register.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then, but I think.

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Speaker 3: She went too hard on her. I mean, and besides that,

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Speaker 3: like how much is her rolics? It's like a stainless

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Speaker 3: steel rolics. And besides that, you know, how much how

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Speaker 3: much money does she owe? I don't even think that

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Speaker 3: didn't pay her rent, but it's not like she owes

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Speaker 3: a bunch of people money.

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Speaker 2: But also, let's be very clear, to resell your rolex,

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Speaker 2: it's like reselling your engagement ring. You ain't getting much

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Speaker 2: for it. A resell value on something you've already worn.

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Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, we don't even know what model it is.

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was like a mean comment to

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Speaker 3: make you know just everything she's going through.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't think it was like the right moment. Well,

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Speaker 2: I asked Emily about it on popping Off, not about

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Speaker 2: this particular situation, but before when she made the comment

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Speaker 2: about money, and I said, like, why did you make

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Speaker 2: that comment? She said to me. Jen opened the door

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Speaker 2: by making fun of herself. So once she started making

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Speaker 2: fun of herself about the money stuff, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was fair game. Do I am I justifying what Emily said?

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Speaker 2: Did No? But I do think. I mean, Emily heckles

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Speaker 2: me all the time on the podcast, and I've just

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Speaker 2: we laugh it off.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not easily offended in that way. And you

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Speaker 3: have a different relationship with her as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're not like in that group setting.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's a little bit too much, honestly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't like those meeting digs. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then Shannon tells Katie and Gina that she got

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Speaker 2: a letter from the law firm that says that she

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Speaker 2: owes John seventy five k plus interest and attorney fees.

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Speaker 2: Gina says, Alexis is now with two men who both

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Speaker 2: sued Shannon and Shannon is floored by what came out

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Speaker 2: of Tamra's mouth at dinner. What'd you think about this?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think everybody was floored about what came out

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Speaker 3: of Tamora's mouth at dinner. Wouldn't you say that? I

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Speaker 3: would say, and I've read a lot of comments, and

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Speaker 3: you know, people are not liking, you know, what Tamora's

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Speaker 3: doing because you know, there were friends no matter what,

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Speaker 3: and it's really hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: I was so grateful I can say this as Tarma's

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Speaker 2: good friend, to watch this episode where she had a

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Speaker 2: good episode this week. I was like, yeah, thank you, Tama,

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Speaker 2: thank you Tamra, because I needed I needed you this

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Speaker 2: like the fact it's just so much fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I loved watching her, like I know that

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to watch.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I would have loved to be

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Speaker 3: much fun she is and you know how great she is.

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Speaker 3: But you know that scene with Shannon, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on, but she's being really harsh on her.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you don't have that much anger

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Speaker 2: without love, and I think that's the problem. That's a

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Speaker 2: good point. Yeah, sure, you know, like if you don't

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Speaker 2: I mean whatever, you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: But I think when you have that much builts why

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Speaker 2: she fights so hard yeaheah, that's a good point. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think Tamara loves hard and she fights hard, and

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Speaker 2: that's what makes her. You know, when you're when you're

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Speaker 2: Tama would do anything for me unless I did her.

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Speaker 3: But what about for Shannon? I me, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: going to see you know, I'm really hoping that at

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Speaker 3: some point that they're going to get back to a

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Speaker 3: that and support that because I'm not you know what

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Speaker 3: happens with these situations. And honestly, if you're really concerned

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Speaker 3: would want to see, you know, a good result, and

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Speaker 3: Shannon and kind of like forget about everything that happened

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't hold your breath on that, mm hmm. I.

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Speaker 2: Then Gina is telling us she's selling Elizabeth Vargas's home

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Speaker 2: and Lakina for eight point nine ninety five. Gina is

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Speaker 2: bringing the ladies with her to check on her house.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Elizabeth Vargas was a housewife, right she

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Speaker 2: was for one season. Hm. I don't know. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to think, like I mean, I know I've done Poppins,

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Speaker 2: pop in just to show my hungry koy, or if

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Speaker 2: I would have just let it be. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think for her it was like a win situation

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Speaker 3: because she's going to have her house featured on the

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Speaker 3: Housewives call it. Well that's a scary part, right that

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Speaker 3: we don't know what's going to come out of these

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Speaker 3: that doesn't really say much, but the fact that somebody

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Speaker 3: She was a housewife. She should have known what she

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Speaker 3: was getting herself into. But the home is spectacular. I

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Speaker 3: mean that home in Miami would cost twenty million dollars

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean those houses and Lakinta. But

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Speaker 2: here's the difference. You can live in Miami all year long.

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Speaker 2: Lakina like, there are three to four months you cannot

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Speaker 2: live there. It is scorching hot, like everybody that lives

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Speaker 2: in that neighborhood they leave for the summers, Like that

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Speaker 2: would be hard if I'm going to spend ten million

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Speaker 2: dollars on the house. Yeah, Like I want to know that.

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Speaker 2: I I mean, granted, I would buy a house there

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Speaker 2: that's a big chunk of money to pay to go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but we won't be there for summers, and I have

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Speaker 2: kids in school. But I don't think she wanted to leave.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what time production was, Like, I, Elizabeth, right,

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Speaker 2: it's time. It's time for you to go. We saw

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Speaker 2: your house, We see that you gave Gina the listing.

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Speaker 2: Do we think it's convenient that she gave Gina the listing?

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Speaker 2: Do you think she'd be so to be on the show?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think it was great for Gina, and and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that was like her selling point, like you know,

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Speaker 3: a feature your house on the show. So that's how

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons why she probably got the listing,

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Speaker 3: a good realtor, and I'm sure she'll sell it for her.

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Speaker 3: But I think it was a great opportunity for both

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Speaker 3: of them. How do you think about her bringing the

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Speaker 3: girls though, well, that was kind of like the only

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Speaker 3: well not really, they could she could have done a

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Speaker 3: scene at the house where she's showing the house and

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Speaker 3: maybe not inviting the girls. Would you invite the Housewives

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Speaker 3: to like one of your properties if you had that listing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think clearly if you have that, if

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Speaker 2: you have multiple houses that you can sell for that

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Speaker 2: price point, if somebody spills an espresso martini on the rug,

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Speaker 2: it's probably not that big of a deal. If it

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Speaker 2: was your one and only house and you had this

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Speaker 2: amount of money, like I think that would be different.

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Speaker 2: But if it's like your vacation house and it is

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Speaker 2: what it is, like, yeah, sure, why not let's show

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Speaker 2: I did laugh about Shane.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Now they're all packing up to go, Shane says, do

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Speaker 2: So but then I get awkward and lakinta that then

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Speaker 2: I saw this and tells Gina that Emily is out

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the problem. I think when you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so typical in these friend groups, you know,

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Speaker 3: Always confused about all that. So who do you believe?

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Speaker 3: three months. It was like somewhere in between, and then

432
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: it was too late already, you know, the Domiti had

433
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: already been done.

434
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: I think Gina finally thought she was going to be

435
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: able to stir up some shit and then she just

436
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: couldn't like land the plane and panicked and pulled out,

437
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: and then that's where it ended up happening. But then

438
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: Tamra tells Katie that she got set up and questions

439
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: Gina's motives, and it's Katie seems pretty like, Okay, what

440
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: tam was saying makes sense. Mm hmm, she does. I

441
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 2: got that from her too.

442
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she's like not trusting in Gina now because

443
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: she says, you know what, maybe what you're telling me

444
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: is the right story and the right version that she

445
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 3: set me up.

446
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: And I went for it. I mean, clearly when you

447
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: see what Gina's doing to her best friend Emily. But granted,

448
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: whatever Emily was doing, even though it was not the

449
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: best behavior, she could have just told Emily, but she didn't.

450
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: She told she chose to talk behind Emily's back, blindsider

451
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: about it. And if I were to read between the lines,

452
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: my guess is this idea that Gina has about being

453
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: upset with Emily and Tamra's friendship has to do with

454
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: you realize that they're both under too teas in a pod.

455
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

456
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: I did realize that, and I thought, maybe Emily, what

457
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: about the choice and the girl groups and went on

458
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: the trips? Like didn't make sense the groups to you?

459
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: Because I thought Emily would be with Tamra.

460
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: I think they did that on purpose because they knew

461
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: that Gina had talked shit about right Emily first, and

462
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: I think production probably chose.

463
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: But right yeah, I mean so it can make sense

464
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: for what was going on in the groups and make

465
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: them uncomfortable and have to talk about it.

466
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 4: Sure. Yeah.

467
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Then Jen thought camera would suggest real estate or a

468
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: podcast to make money, but they decided posting feet only.

469
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: Fans and I only fans is always like the answer,

470
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: right it? Like is it a joker or do people

471
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: really think that?

472
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: I Mean, here's the thing I think like at this point,

473
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: like that that could pay for my big bear house,

474
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm ready. Are you considering it? You're ready?

475
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if I had something worth selling on my body,

476
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: I think I'd probably do it. But I mean I

477
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: don't what would I saw. I'd be like, here are

478
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: my nugget hands?

479
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: Like, well, there's a market for everyone, I'm telling you,

480
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 3: like it's you just have to find it.

481
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: You just have to find it. Well, maybe there's a

482
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: market for John Jansen because then Tamer tells Alexis that

483
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: she heard from Shannon that John has a big wiener.

484
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Alexis says not to say the S word.

485
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: You can't say don't say the S word when you

486
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: already said you have s four times a day. It's

487
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: act me. My favorite part about Alexis this episode, Like listen,

488
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: I've seen the memes and the things, like Alexis is

489
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: so just delusional. That's what makes her a good housewife

490
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: and it's funny and whatever. I love that when she

491
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: said don't say the S word, meaning I thought she

492
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: meant sex, but she meant shannis. Well, I was all confused.

493
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: I said, shouldn't it be the D word? But because

494
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: she's you know, instead of the S word, because that's

495
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: what I was thinking.

496
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: And then after I also, you know, thought about the

497
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: sex thing, and I was like, and wait, why is

498
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: even Shannon talking about like her man's penis, Like that's

499
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: the stupidest thing. Like I hate when let the girls

500
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: talk about that, because I was like, you're so dumby

501
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: if you're not with this guy forever and you're talking

502
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 3: about how huge this penis is, Like everybody's gonna want

503
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: to like have sex with him, Like even oh my,

504
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: I have a.

505
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Question if you heard, because this is where I am

506
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: very different, like if so, not me, But there's a

507
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: lot of women at Girl. If somebody were to tell

508
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: me like, oh my god, my husband, Roger, he has

509
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: a giant penis, I wouldn't be like and Roger was

510
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: not my type. I wouldn't be like, oh, Roger, I

511
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: need to I want to ride you. Like for me,

512
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: it takes more than just a big weener.

513
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: I know, baby, that's you. But you know how many,

514
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: like other women or whatever. I mean, they just I'm

515
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: telling you it's happened to my friend, like our real lives.

516
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: I've seen it happen, and I'm always like telling my friends,

517
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: please do not talk up.

518
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't want to know about it.

519
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: And second of all, don't be stupid enough to say

520
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: something like that, because you don't know who's listening and

521
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: who's gonna want to f your guy after just because

522
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: of that or one crazy like drunk night or whatever.

523
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what about when Katie said Alexis is Badge

524
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: needs a break? Yes, that was funny, and then we

525
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 5: continue on.

526
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: I was a little bit frustrated when we got through

527
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the Gina and Mlni fight that Gene then Emily never

528
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: actually got to have the fight because the guy turned intobody. Heather.

529
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it turned into Heather and Gina, and so they

530
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: still have something to resolve because obviously nothing happened between them.

531
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: No, nothing happened. She wasn't able to get it out.

532
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: I can't tell, and I can't really ask Emily. I guess,

533
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: but I can't tell. If maybe Emily was maybe a

534
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: little tipsy at this point, so she was like the

535
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Emily I know would have just like come for it.

536
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's because she's so close

537
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: with Gina that she was more reserved or she was

538
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: just like, I can't deal with this right now.

539
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, since Heather took over and she

540
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: did say it on her confessional, well yeah, you know, Heather,

541
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: you know, made it about her, so you know, she

542
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: kind of like got a free pass at that moment,

543
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, because it's better that way. You know, sometimes

544
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: you just can't have two conversations. Yeah, and you know,

545
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: conversations like that, deep conversations, you know, when and then it.

546
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Becomes a gang up. Also, everybody's fighting with the same person.

547
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: But then we get to this part. Jen questions when

548
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: Alexis is going to stop the attacks on Shannon, Alexis

549
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: explant she's defending John, whose name was smeared by Shannon. John.

550
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: I do think that, and I'm going to give we

551
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: did hear this when we were in San Francisco. Alexis's

552
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: mom passed away right before filming, so she was going

553
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: through a lot. We haven't really heard much about it

554
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: on the show. John was there for her. That's I'm

555
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: going to give her her fall. That's the wrong reason

556
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: to get into our relationship. But I can see it

557
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: happening because but they're said vulnerable and the whole thing.

558
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: And she did tell us that, Yeah, she did tell

559
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: us that they but just because we did.

560
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: That, we don't know his real motives though, right, I mean,

561
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: you know she wants to say that it's because he's

562
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: so kind and he's so loving and he's so perfect.

563
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: But is that the real reality? We don't know yet.

564
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: Time will tell.

565
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: But then Alexi so But then in that same token,

566
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: she says, Alexis as she can bring out videos of

567
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: Shannon that would ruin her. Tamra says, it's videos of

568
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Shannon the Night of Dui. Alexis says, if Shannon doesn't

569
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: stop lying, John will expose the videos. I also want

570
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: to point out, but did she come on this show

571
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: for this? I mean, did this?

572
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Did Alexis and John Johnny like she calls them calm

573
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: on the show, like just for them and to get

574
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: their story out.

575
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: But I also want to talk about toxic relationships in general.

576
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: I can say with one hundred percent certainty, I have

577
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: never been in a fight with Edwin, and while we

578
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: were arguing, thought to bring out my phone and video him.

579
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: It's never gotten to that magnitude where I felt I

580
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: needed to capitalize on this proof. I do know couples

581
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: that do do that, h and most of the time

582
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: it's because it's repeated behavior. We're hearing that he didn't

583
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: actually video it. It's ring camera video footage. I don't know.

584
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Regardless of whatever it is that shows that the relationship

585
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: is so toxic, let's stop talking about it. I guess

586
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: what he'll do.

587
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: If he did that with Shannon, he's gonna do it

588
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: with Alexis. Also, I mean if if the relationship does

589
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: get to that point, because it's probably a pattern that

590
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: he has, you know, with all the women that he

591
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: needs proof and he has to be defending himself.

592
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: But also if a relationship is so inconsequential to you

593
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: don't talk about it, Like was my ex husband in

594
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: total dream? Yeah? He was great? Did he do anything

595
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: stup to me? No? Do I need to talk about him? Well,

596
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: you don't have to lie. I mean you don't have

597
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: to lie about it either.

598
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: No.

599
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: But I have no reason to talk about him good

600
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: or bad. Oh okay, yeah, but you know what I'm saying, like,

601
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: there's no reason for me to ever But this is

602
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: like a threat. I mean, this is I saw that

603
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: like as a threat.

604
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Shannon, doesn't you know, shut up or

605
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: she's not quiet, then you know we're going to bring

606
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: out this me that's a threat.

607
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: But what are we going to see that she's the worst,

608
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is that she's drunk, she's yelling, she's jealous,

609
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: she's upset, and she's sloppy. We already know that, and

610
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: she herself has said that. And but then in the

611
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: same token we heard last episode Shannon saying I will

612
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: prove what John said. My guess is the same. He

613
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: was drunk, he was sloppy, he was aggressive. He like

614
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: what they're blaming each other for, they both did regardless

615
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: and everything both participated and your new relationship be moving on.

616
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: That's great, you've had growth. I just I really.

617
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: Don't get I really don't understand that either. Like it

618
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: really makes me, like makes me aggressive to like watch this.

619
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: I was like, how do they even allow this? Like

620
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: it's all like who cares? I feel like Alexus is

621
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: just there to like bring down Shannon and just to

622
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: defend John's name. Nobody cares about John, Like, no, he

623
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: was not part of the show. He's not a cast member.

624
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's not that, he's not relevant. The only

625
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: reason why they're talking about him is because Alexis is there.

626
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: Because if not, Channon.

627
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Would have just had you to talk about her.

628
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: Exactly, but not, you know, nobody wants to, you know,

629
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: like I feel like John's becoming like the new Lenny

630
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: on the show. Like you know that all we talked,

631
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about and you know, Lisa had

632
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: everybod to talk about Lenny because she was going through

633
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: it in real time. But she was married to this

634
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: man and she had a family with him, like Shannon

635
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: was with this guy for three and a half years,

636
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: and that's it. I mean, she should be able to

637
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: say her story and that's it, I mean, but just

638
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: keeps on bringing it up.

639
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: Like it's well, it's also sad that it's like, you know,

640
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: Alexi's mom has just passed away, and it feels like

641
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: she's susceptible to fall hard and fast, and that she

642
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: feels like she has to fight John's battles for him.

643
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Like if John wants to fight these battles, come on

644
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: the show and film.

645
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: Do you think he's using her? I mean, I've even

646
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: thought that myself. I was like, why is she his mouthpiece?

647
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Like every scene is like going in to defend John.

648
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: John is not part of this, unfortunately. He was a

649
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: part of Shannon's life, Okay, And if you want to

650
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: ruin your life now, go ahead and do it, But like,

651
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: don't give.

652
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Him so much time and energy. That's my point. If

653
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: he was in a situation right now, like if this

654
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: was something to give Alexis freedom, well, like let's say

655
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Alexis thinks she's going in to share her full life,

656
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: her story or whatever, and in the midst of sharing

657
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: her entire life, she's also sharing stuff about her relationship

658
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: with John. But we're only seeing her relationship with John. No,

659
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: and she's and she's really.

660
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: Not talking too much about her relationship with John except

661
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: that she has sex with him all the time and

662
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: how amazing he is.

663
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: That's all she says.

664
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: But all the other conversations are about how crazy Shannon

665
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: is and how about John and Shannon's relationship. She's really

666
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: not talking so much about her own relationship.

667
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: Do you think she has a disadvantage because she's a

668
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: friend of.

669
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think that she has

670
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: She has a big presence and we can already see that.

671
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: We've seen her in every episode except episode four.

672
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: I think the fact that she can walk down the

673
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: stairs and not even notice that Jen and Katie are

674
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: standing there, Yeah, that's concerning. Maybe that's why she can

675
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: be with this man.

676
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: She's not aware, you know, and unfortun I mean, I

677
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: think she's a good person, you know.

678
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: I think she's a good girl. I think she's a

679
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: good one.

680
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: You know. I think she's a good person. But she's

681
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: just like caught up in this craziness. You know, people

682
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: with this man.

683
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: Want love and want that like feeling more than they

684
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: want reality.

685
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: And and you know what, when it's so good like

686
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: that in the beginning, like Run for the Hills, yeah,

687
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: because it's just like not like normal.

688
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: Straight let's hope, let's hope for them that their relationship

689
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: gets better and they stop focusing on Shannon.

690
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: And I really do hope so because I honestly, it's

691
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: really hard for me to watch because it's like this

692
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: is like the whole thing is about this, Like I'm

693
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: not enjoying it.

694
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're having fun moment and it's like why

695
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: they're in Big Bear, why they're going down the slopes,

696
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: why they're doing this, like even while they were cooking,

697
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: and how they're trying to get cut open the pineapple.

698
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Like there are moments where you're like, gosh, I get

699
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: why all these ladies are friends. Katie I thought had

700
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 2: a good episode. Gina clearly did not, but like everybody

701
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: had moments where I was like, oh I like them,

702
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And I could relate to each person for

703
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: the most part. But that's where it was a little

704
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: tough for me at the end. But we're not gonna listen,

705
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: We're not gonna pummel, We're not gonna pummel Alexis anymore.

706
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: But let's see, I don't know about her too much,

707
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: but I mean, maybe that's what she wants, but also,

708
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how many more episodes? What episode are

709
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: we on? Episode six? We just finished watching six, so

710
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: we finished watching six. How many episodes do they have?

711
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you that. I what I heard

712
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: was they're potentially gonna have eighteen episodes. But I mean,

713
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: everything changes, okay, But Alexis is not show I own

714
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: in any pictures on the cast trip, So my guess, oh,

715
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: thank god, no Alexis and John.

716
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I like Alexis, but because only John comes

717
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: out of her mouth, I'm like, I'm not interested.

718
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess she'll probably be at the Sonoma

719
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: cast trip, but I don't think she goes to I

720
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: forget where they went, London, somewhere like that, but I

721
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: poor for four. It's a lot, and we're hooked. So

722
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: thank you, guys. Yes, thanks for tuning in for another episode,

723
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: and it was good talking to you this week. I'll

724
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Bye Teddy, Bye, guys, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 4: Bye