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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and

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Speaker 2: today I'm joined by Bobby Burrick, a writer for OutKick

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Speaker 2: based right here in the beautiful state of Michigan. Bobby

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Speaker 2: reports and analyzes the latest media topics and trends, and

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Speaker 2: his latest column caught my interest. I want to dive

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Speaker 2: more into that today, Bobby. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being here.

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Speaker 3: Tudor, thanks for having me. I told you this last time,

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Speaker 3: but it's so rare to talk to other people in

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Speaker 3: media from Michigan. All of them seem to be based

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Speaker 3: in LA or New York or Nashville. So yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think you and I are the only ones that I

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Speaker 2: I think it's great because we have the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: kind of give that Midwest perspective and not a lot

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Speaker 2: of people here from folks in the Midwest. And your

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Speaker 2: column this week was very interesting to me because not

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Speaker 2: only are you talking about affirmative action, but you're talking

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Speaker 2: being crushed by the ESG. But we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of awesome universities in Michigan especially, And I want to

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Speaker 2: get to what you're saying about affirmative action, because obviously

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Speaker 2: You have people on the right defending it. You have

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Speaker 2: But you have kind of dug deep into this and

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Speaker 2: you to kind of explain the background here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when the ruling came out, I think it was

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Speaker 3: I mean, I always opposed the idea of affirmative action,

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Speaker 3: I spent ten days researching it and digging through the numbers,

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Speaker 3: and what I found was affirmative action is essentially what

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Speaker 3: I call excused racism, and it enabled this movement. So

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Speaker 3: the idea is, in order to reach racial equality, we

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Speaker 3: the idea was if you racially discriminate against white people

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Speaker 3: So there's that element of it. But then the idea

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Speaker 3: morphed into something much more than that. You mentioned ESG.

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Speaker 3: The S and ESG stands for social and a big

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Speaker 3: part of it is diversity, equity and inclusion. So as

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Speaker 3: idea is hire less white people, hire more black people,

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Speaker 3: idea is to racially discriminate, but it's excused is to

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Speaker 3: racism that's entirely backwards. Never before would that make any sense.

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Speaker 3: But you look at what happened in the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the things that shocked me

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Speaker 1: That seems illegal to me, But why is that allowed?

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Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't that go either way too?

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Speaker 1: With racism, I mean, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you in a situation where you could either be

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Speaker 1: To totally abuse it too, yeah.

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Speaker 3: They absolutely could. Or they could say no females or

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we are told every single day that

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Speaker 2: And our understanding what we learned when we were doing

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean the worst vice president. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so that overall that hasn't benefited that many black students. Moreover,

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Speaker 3: Affirmative action has actually increased dropout rates among black and

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Speaker 2: But do you think that there were barriers broken with

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Speaker 2: I mean it probably there probably were fewer black faces

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what you described is a policy that

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Speaker 3: It's very similar to what's happening with the LGBT community.

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Speaker 3: we've seen with race too. You're right, there was a

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be better for young black students to be

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Speaker 3: you can, be as smart as you can, and ride

436
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Speaker 3: your own way of success, not ride a system. But

437
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: you see it all the time. You go on TikTok,

438
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Speaker 3: where so many young people are on right now, a

439
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: lot of influences are talking about just that diversity, what

440
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Speaker 3: the country's owed, separating people into oppressors in the oppressed.

441
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: None of this is good, none of us making us

442
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Speaker 3: a better, less racialized society. And you're so right, like

443
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: young black kids they shouldn't be thinking about what they're old.

444
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: They should be thinking about how to better themselves as

445
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Speaker 3: such a young age. And the message has totally changed.

446
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: What is that mentality is to victim mentality? Those in

447
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Speaker 3: charge are telling us that the easiest way to success

448
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three is to be a victim, and

449
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Speaker 3: if you're not a victim, you're going to face challenges.

450
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Speaker 3: That was not the message when I was growing up,

451
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Speaker 3: and so that wasn't the message where a lot of

452
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Speaker 3: people are growing up. So if that's the idea now

453
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Speaker 3: to find a way to be a victim, we're in

454
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Speaker 3: for a long haul to be able to get a

455
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Speaker 3: society back to a place where our skills are knowledge

456
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Speaker 3: to fine who we are, because right now identity trumps

457
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Speaker 3: all else.

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Speaker 2: Well, but again I will say that I think that

459
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Speaker 2: conservatives are doing a terrible job in this area because,

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Speaker 2: first of all, we don't have influencers in that space.

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Speaker 2: We don't have influencers talking about you know, you have value,

462
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Speaker 2: getting married has value. Making sure that you take care

463
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Speaker 2: of your body has value. That you are there's something

464
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Speaker 2: important about you.

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Speaker 1: You have gifts. You need to find your own gifts.

466
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Speaker 2: But our messengers that we do have, I believe take

467
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Speaker 2: it to an extreme.

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Speaker 1: It's especially for young women.

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Speaker 2: The messages that I hear out of the conservative side

470
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Speaker 2: are you only have value if you're married, and get

471
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Speaker 2: married young and put your career on hold, have kids

472
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Speaker 2: right away. Focus on that. That's you can't do both.

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Speaker 2: And you know that is that's going to drive women away.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that isn't my story. I got married, but

475
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Speaker 2: I didn't have kids for many years. I had a

476
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Speaker 2: career for many years before I had children, and now

477
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Speaker 2: I have a career and children. And so why is

478
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Speaker 2: it that it seems that on our side we lift

479
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Speaker 2: voices up that are so far to the right that

480
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Speaker 2: end up becoming like I mean, it's like we're going

481
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Speaker 2: back to the fifties and that's just not going to

482
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Speaker 2: win young people over. So are we doing this wrong

483
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Speaker 2: without showing people how how great life can be if

484
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Speaker 2: you are focused on family and goals. I mean, it

485
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Speaker 2: has to be you have to be focused on family

486
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Speaker 2: the way we tell you to be.

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Speaker 1: That seems to be screwing us up as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that goes back to the first topic here

489
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Speaker 3: about how the right is losing the war of messaging,

490
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Speaker 3: which is really the most important war in battle going

491
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Speaker 3: on right now. And you bring up a good point.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times conservative influencers are telling women get married,

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Speaker 3: have a bunch of kids, stay at home, don't work,

494
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Speaker 3: or the left is telling them, hey, you know, go

495
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Speaker 3: be independent, Go get a job, go get education, go

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Speaker 3: make a lot of money. Well, some of that's dishonest,

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Speaker 3: but I think for most sixteen seventeen eighteen year old

498
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Speaker 3: girls who are getting ready to vote or get more

499
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Speaker 3: into society and understanding politics, of course they're going to

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Speaker 3: side with the left's message at least buy and large,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think a lot of sixteen seventeen year

502
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Speaker 3: old girls want to sign up for a life of

503
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Speaker 3: just being married, have a bunch of kids, and not work.

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Speaker 3: And some do, and that's fine, But I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: The messaging on the right is not very strong, and

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Speaker 3: it goes back to maybe the influencers. Maybe we're lifting

507
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Speaker 3: up and promulgating the wrong influencers. But when somebody writes

508
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: the book on the culture war, the first check has

509
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: to go to left because they've controlled and manipulated the

510
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Speaker 3: messaging far better than their opposition, which is failing. They're

511
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Speaker 3: failing on every topic. I think a lot of times

512
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Speaker 3: they failed during COVID. Sometimes they came across too conspiratorial,

513
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: too resentful to agitate it. That's not how you win this.

514
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Speaker 3: And hopefully over time they realize that because the Left

515
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Speaker 3: is gaining more and more ground culturally because of that message.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough situation for conservatives.

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Speaker 2: We see them. They have gone younger and younger. They've

518
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Speaker 2: influenced younger and younger people, and I believe that the

519
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: left understands, Hey, if we get the kids, the kids

520
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Speaker 2: will push back on the parents, and eventually the parents

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Speaker 2: will either conform or the kids will tell them we're.

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Speaker 1: Out, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so I mean, we've seeing this in other countries

524
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Speaker 2: where they go after the youngest group, and that's effective,

525
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Speaker 2: but also there's this disruption in the country because you've

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Speaker 2: got kids against parents, and that, sadly is effective when

527
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Speaker 2: you are shaming people into going out and voting.

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Speaker 1: We had something interesting happen in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know where this rule came from, because

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Speaker 2: I've been told by legislators this is not a law,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to research did this come from?

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Speaker 1: HHS. Where is this coming from?

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Speaker 2: But again, I got an email yesterday saying your daughter

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Speaker 2: will turn twelve this year and therefore you will no

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Speaker 2: longer have access to her medical records. She can sign

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Speaker 2: you over as medical proxy, but you will have limited

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Speaker 2: access to her medical records because her medical records are

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: now for her to see and not for you at twelve.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean when you have the government saying

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Speaker 2: you are out of your child's medical records at twelve

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Speaker 2: years old? How can she be making decisions with her

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Speaker 2: doctor without me present.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's disgusting and is concerning. And I'm on a

544
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: somewhat lighter note. My friend Lisa booz I just did

545
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: a podcast with her. She always brings up this point

546
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: that I always remember when it comes to these issues.

547
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Speaker 3: When she was fourteen years old, she got a belly

548
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: button ring and regretted it immediately. But the point of

549
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: the story is is that when you're young, you can't

550
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Speaker 3: decide if you should get your belly button peers, go

551
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: to a date with somebody, hang out with a new friendly.

552
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: You're so indecisive and emotionally inconsistent that the very worst

553
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Speaker 3: thing you can do is have control of your own

554
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Speaker 3: medical decisions, because your brain's not formed and capable enough

555
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Speaker 3: at that point to make a decision. So you're right,

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Speaker 3: a twelve year old is hardly capable of deciding if

557
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Speaker 3: they want a PlayStation or an Xbox, but to make

558
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Speaker 3: medical decisions against their parents wishes. That goes back to

559
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Speaker 3: what we've lost, and that is common sense. You go

560
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Speaker 3: back fifteen years ago and tell somebody that, they would say,

561
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Speaker 3: no way could that happen in this America? Twelve years old,

562
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Speaker 3: they don't have to ask their parents to make these

563
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Speaker 3: medical decisions, but apparently where they're now. So you have

564
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Speaker 3: to ask yourself, how do we spiral so far out

565
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Speaker 3: of control that this is now a reality.

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Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is that when you ask people,

567
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Speaker 2: they all go, yeah, I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, legislators, I had no idea. I don't know

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Speaker 2: where that came from. And I think, how is this happening?

571
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Speaker 2: And oftentimes in Michigan. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 2: happening in other states, but I would tell you to

573
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Speaker 2: be aware that at least in Michigan, agencies are formed,

574
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Speaker 2: and agencies somehow can create law. I mean the DNR,

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Speaker 2: they can go after you get a misdemeanor if you're

576
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Speaker 2: not wearing Hunter's Orange, and then if you get a misdemeanor,

577
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Speaker 2: you can no longer have can sell carry. And so

578
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: all of these things somehow are connected. But how does

579
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Speaker 2: an organization like that that does not make law create

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Speaker 2: a rule that can cause you to be considered breaking

581
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Speaker 2: the law. These are the things that I don't think

582
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Speaker 2: that the average public is tuned into or knows how

583
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: to fight back on. And it seems like government gets

584
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger. We just saw that Governor Whitmer created

585
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Speaker 2: a second, essentially a second Department of ED in the

586
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Speaker 2: state of Michigan. She doesn't have control the Department of

587
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Speaker 2: ED in the state of Michigan. The state department is

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Speaker 2: separate from the Governor's office. So now she has one

589
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: that reports to her and the main one. But ultimately,

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Speaker 2: if we look at how Democrats have treated education, big

591
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Speaker 2: d has not really helped us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again more it's but power, right, She's

593
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Speaker 3: trying to gain more unilateral power in we just hearing

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Speaker 3: that about a twelve year old doesn't surprise me hadn't

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: heard about it, but makes total sense given the trajectory

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Speaker 3: we've gone. But those are the times.

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Speaker 1: Send you the email, then you can do all the

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Speaker 1: research for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, my money broke because it's just awful.

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Speaker 3: But those are the conversations we should be having. Those

601
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Speaker 3: are the conversations that should be on the nightly news

602
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: on cable news, on radio. But it's not the conversations

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00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: we're having. The media are so useless in such a distraction,

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Speaker 3: Like some of the stuff about Chris Christie, who's on

605
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: leading every news show now, I mean, it's just a

606
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: complete waste of time, like him talking about Trump calling

607
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: himself fat that who cares? That doesn't affect anybody. That

608
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: shouldn't be the lead news story of cable news. It

609
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: should be conversations like that, particularly on local news. A

610
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Detroit news station should be covering that. Those topics, the

611
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: topics that affect households, dinner tables, that's what needs to

612
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: be highlighted, not the inner workings of DC that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people don't really care about and are not

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Speaker 3: affected by. So it's frustrating to me how poorly our

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00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: news has done as a whole to bring attention to

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Speaker 3: the stories that actually matter.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would argue that in general our side has

618
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Speaker 2: been more emotional than we have been. I mean, historically

619
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Speaker 2: Republicans had been fact driven, and I think they said, oh, well,

620
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Speaker 2: that's not working. But when we tried to take the

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Speaker 2: emotional side of things, we're a little too emotional about it.

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Speaker 2: And so I do think that there is the opportunity

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Speaker 2: for us to with folks like you out there in

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Speaker 2: the media without kick honestly, out there in the media,

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Speaker 2: there is an opportunity to fight back. We haven't had

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Speaker 2: that either. We haven't really had a space in the media.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a few spaces in the media, but

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Speaker 2: there haven't been reporters like yourself who are out there saying, well,

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Speaker 2: let me dig into this.

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Speaker 1: And what I think is.

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Speaker 2: Key for people who are listening today is that you said,

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Speaker 2: I took ten days to go. Do I know enough

633
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Speaker 2: about this to talk about it? Should I research this,

634
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: this affirmative action, how it connects to ESG And to me,

635
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Speaker 2: that's incredibly important that you have somebody who's willing to

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Speaker 2: take the time. I think that's another thing. We're too

637
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: quick to jump on a story and react and react

638
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: with emotion. But I appreciate the fact that you were

639
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: able to step back, do some research and bring it

640
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Speaker 2: to us. Tell everybody where they can find your writing,

641
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Speaker 2: because I think what you do is so important.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate that real quick. When I became a

643
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: journalist or sobe, you'll say I'm not, so you'll say whatever.

644
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: But most important thing for me was to hold the

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Speaker 3: people in power accountable and ask the questions that nobody

646
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: else is asking. And there's not enough people doing that.

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Speaker 3: So it's so important for me to sit back and

648
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: look at an issue and hold the people and charge

649
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Speaker 3: accountable and make them answer questions and at least reveal

650
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Speaker 3: the questions that are not being asked. So that's point

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Speaker 3: number one. But yeah, anyone who can find me, I'm

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Speaker 3: on twitteroutkick dot com at Twitter at burak Bobby Underscore.

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Speaker 3: My handles kind of wonky, but I apparently can't change it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you go different podcasts or radio shows and

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Speaker 3: TV shows throughout the week, and I really appreciate you

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Speaker 3: having me on. I always enjoyed coming on with you

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Speaker 3: and seeing your success of the podcast. I see you

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Speaker 3: all over TV now, so very cool.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Definitely check out Bobby Burrack. He is doing great stuff. Really,

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Speaker 2: I love everything that you're putting out there, and it's

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Speaker 2: important for people to follow folks like you so they

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Speaker 2: know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being on today, appreciate it, and thank.

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Speaker 2: You all for joining us as usual on the Tutor

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Speaker 2: Dixon Podcast and for this episode and others. You can

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Speaker 2: check out tutordisonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there,

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Speaker 2: or head over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts and make sure you join

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Speaker 2: us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have an

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Speaker 2: awesome week.