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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Moman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my Campadre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, so ointment.

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Speaker 2: Hello Chad. How you doing? Brother?

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Speaker 1: I feel kind of great. You know. I was in

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Speaker 1: the city for the past two days, and I got

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Speaker 1: home last night and I was sitting on the couch

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Speaker 1: with my wife. I was able to distract her long

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Speaker 1: enough from watching yet another season of Arrested Development to

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Speaker 1: talk about how excited I am that we're getting to

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Speaker 1: the star of the season every year in August. You

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Speaker 1: might feel this way too as a professional Better, Like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we are on the precipice of falling

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Speaker 1: apart until these games start. Like everyone is so antsy,

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Speaker 1: everyone is so ready, everyone is so excited, Like we

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Speaker 1: just got to get to some freaking games. We got

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Speaker 1: college football Week zero starting on Saturday. We got Week

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Speaker 1: one for college football the week after. Then we are

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Speaker 1: into NFL. We are in our final installment of our

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Speaker 1: annual NFL Division Preview series. We are discussing the Nfcwash,

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Speaker 1: which I'm psyched about because you have said all offseason

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Speaker 1: the Niners to you have the best roster in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We are going to put that theory to the test.

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Speaker 1: I will also tell you, Simon, I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of text from people over the last forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: about how high you are on the Raiders. One body

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Speaker 1: texted me and said, I nearly fell off the elliptical

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Speaker 1: when I heard Simon say how much he loved the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: And then I got another text from Mike Kerns, who

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Speaker 1: you know is the partner at the Churning Group who

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Speaker 1: approached me to launch Action in May of twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: before any of this existed. He's all on board with

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Speaker 1: you on the Raiders. All on board.

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Speaker 2: It's a sad day when everyone is shocked that someone

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Speaker 2: said the Raiders can go eight to nine. It's dark

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Speaker 2: days right now for the Raiders. But yeah, this this

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Speaker 2: division is gonna be a little different the last division.

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Speaker 2: Right this division actually has some themes that we think

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Speaker 2: can make it to Super Bowl and like the last division,

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Speaker 2: so I'm excited to break this one down. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: episode description. All Right, my enthusiasm, my optimism right now

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Speaker 1: so I am ready to roll today. Simon Foe of

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Speaker 1: Vim and Vigor. As a reminder, as of said in

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Speaker 1: every one of our division preview episodes, nineteen of the

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Speaker 1: past twenty one seasons, an NFL team has gone from

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Speaker 1: worst to first in its division. Well, it happened in

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Speaker 1: the NFC West last year, first place San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: Sisco San Francisco forty nine Ers right now six to

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Speaker 1: in the division, eleven and a half is the win total.

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Speaker 1: Their strength of schedule fifteenth most difficult overall, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: discussed with Warren Sharp, as Chris Raybond has said in

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Speaker 1: the Action Network podcast with Stuckey, which everybody should be

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Speaker 1: listening to, they have one of the worst rested advantages

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Speaker 1: That is not easy. This is a team that historically,

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Speaker 1: as we've already seen in the preseason, will suffer from injuries.

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Speaker 1: Suffer from injuries. Two key players, whether it's McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Debo, whomever,

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Speaker 1: that could have an impact on their ability to reach

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Speaker 1: more than eleven and a half wins. O Line rank

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter though, like I know, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about this, but Shanahan's scheme is so good they

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Speaker 1: line rank second Nick Bosa, Perennial DPOY candidate number three,

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Speaker 1: overall ed rusher Javon Vargrave, Top twenty five, Greater interior alignment.

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Speaker 1: According to PFF, you love this team, You love this roster,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl hangover, he's brought party a manager. Bill Barnwell

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Speaker 1: doesn't think they should pay him big bucks. I don't know, Simon,

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Speaker 2: Even a month ago, I would have said, no, this

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Speaker 2: know the most important guy on this team, Trent Williams,

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Speaker 2: we kept fading them when he didn't play, and it

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Speaker 2: was just basically, they're a totally different team. Kyle Shannan

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Speaker 2: and it's we're talking you know, seven years of data

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Speaker 2: and you know, the fact that if you if you

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Speaker 2: seventy five receptions. It's crazy, it really is. So you know,

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Speaker 2: Chad you said it were two weeks away, like literally

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Speaker 2: and it's totally over. So it's it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: So this is a team that I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: August first. Right, this is a team I've just been

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Speaker 2: I took a step back on just because what you

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Speaker 2: them down my list, like they're not, you know, a

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Speaker 2: in his career, his huge advantage was he's never lost

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Speaker 2: it doesn't sound real, people, but that's the truth. Now

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Speaker 2: there is some weakness there, like there is something we

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Speaker 2: if this is really how their season is going to start,

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Speaker 2: Because if Trent Williams does come in, you think he's

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Speaker 2: just going to pick right up. The dude's like thirty six.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna need a couple of weeks to get his

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Speaker 2: So it is a really interesting scenario right now, Chada,

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Speaker 1: Well, look, Trent Williams, just so we're clear, there are

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan as recently as yesterday, less than twenty four

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Speaker 1: and the stat you're talking about was last year. I

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Speaker 1: directionally accurate enough to show his influence. When Trent william

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Speaker 1: were a five hundred team. Like they are. The lynchpins

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Speaker 1: That is a huge loss for an offensive line. That

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Speaker 1: to say, it's meh, mid blah whatever.

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Speaker 1: The like least enthusiastic, most dismissive face a teenager can give.

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Speaker 1: That is the forty nine Ers offensive line. But here's

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Speaker 1: what gets interesting to me always. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: a coach in the NFL other than Kyle Shanahan, who

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Speaker 1: there's not a coach in the NFL who enjoys playing

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Speaker 1: It makes me less confident they're the best team in

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Rams, because the Rams

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Speaker 1: Rams thirty to one to win the Super Bowls plus

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Speaker 1: the loss of Aaron Donald huge impact on the overall

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Speaker 2: I don't mind it, but it's definitely a team that

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Speaker 2: Like it seems like they're kind of cooking the books

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Speaker 2: Like the fact they lost, you know, they did your DC.

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Speaker 2: That's I want to act like it's not a big deal,

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Speaker 2: I saw they still have his locker untouched, so they're

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Speaker 1: I feel like Aaron Donald had one of the most

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Speaker 1: perfect NFL careers. I'm not sure what the comp is

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan. It's the eternal question, who would

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talk all the time head to head,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan has a lot of guys who have gone

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Speaker 1: on to be NFL coaches from his staff. Sean McVay, basically,

432
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Speaker 1: you shook the guy's hand at some point in your

433
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Speaker 1: coaching career for about four years there you were getting

434
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Speaker 1: a job as a coach in the NFL, Right, And

435
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: I do think there's something that feels the term of

436
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: the moment, if you're paying any attention to politics, I'm

437
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Speaker 1: not making a political statement. Is joy. There's something joyful

438
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: about the way Sean McVay coaches, something enthusiastic that feels

439
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: different than sort of the very business like approach you

440
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: get from Kyle Shanahan. Even in like the way you

441
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: see them communicate with their teams. You've seen you know,

442
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Speaker 1: the behind the scenes or the hard knocks with Sean

443
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: McVay and the way he's communicating with the Rams. And

444
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: we've seen some of the behind the scenes stuff from

445
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Speaker 1: the Receiver show on Netflix with Kittle and Samuel and

446
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Speaker 1: the way Kyle Shanahan communicated with his players. I don't

447
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: doubt his players love them, but it just feels like

448
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more boyish enthusiasm with Sean McVay.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if I'd rather play for Sean McVay than

451
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Speaker 1: Kyle shann I do, like I wonder if I think

452
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Speaker 1: Kyle shann is a genius, He's going to alway, He's

453
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Speaker 1: put me in a position to succeed no matter the situation,

454
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Speaker 1: unless it's overtime in the Super Bowl. Oh what I

455
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: read a play for Sean McVay, who's clearly great at coaching,

456
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Speaker 1: but also just might make it ten percent more fun.

457
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Speaker 2: Would you take the Rams over?

458
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Speaker 1: And now, Yeah, I totally would. Yeah, because of Matthew Stafford.

459
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think about what C. J.

460
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Speaker 1: Straus said.

461
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Speaker 2: I'm saying and I feel like.

462
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Speaker 1: You said this, and this is stuck in my head

463
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Speaker 1: for two years now, we were underestimating how great Matthew

464
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Speaker 1: Stafford is, and I think we have now seen because

465
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Speaker 1: he was injured and then came back, and this team

466
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Speaker 1: got so much better when he's on, He's on in

467
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Speaker 1: any kind of system, and with the talent that they

468
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: have Cooper Cup, Puka naku A, Kyron Williams, you know

469
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Speaker 1: that is a good offensive team with a lot of confidence.

470
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Speaker 1: And I keep thinking about what C. J. Shroud said, like,

471
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Speaker 1: if there's one guy he's watching, it's Matthew Stafford that

472
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Speaker 1: says everything to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I mean I again, people know my

474
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Speaker 2: love for this Rams team. I wish I was higher

475
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Speaker 2: on them. It's just I have to take a step back.

476
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Speaker 1: Yep, I get it. I get it all right. So

477
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Speaker 1: you mentioned Seattle sixty five to one to win the

478
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl plus seven hundred to win the Division. Seven

479
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: and a half is the win totals, strength the schedule

480
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Speaker 1: fifteenth easiest O line rank thirty one, loaded with backups,

481
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Speaker 1: D line of rank seventeen. But I do think it's

482
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Speaker 1: to me, it's seventeen. And if you've got arrows next

483
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Speaker 1: to it, it's a green arrow pointing up because I

484
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Speaker 1: think this unit has a lot of potential because of

485
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's scheme. But I was surprised to say you're

486
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Speaker 1: high on Seattle. I know we're going to get to Arizona,

487
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Speaker 1: but I'm surprised to say you're high on Seattle. I

488
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Speaker 1: didn't have that in our in our sort of cool.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm high in that. I thought they're gonna be

490
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: the worst team in football coming to this season. I

491
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: was like all in on fading this team, and luckily

492
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Speaker 2: someone spoke to me just about what you just said,

493
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, where it's like I should give this guy

494
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Speaker 2: more credit for what he did with the Ravens last year.

495
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: Like he was an incredible defensive schemer. He put all

496
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Speaker 2: his players in the best positions they could possibly be in,

497
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Speaker 2: and even that playoff loss that was not on him,

498
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Speaker 2: Like he did really well against that Chiefs team in

499
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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We all know what that playoff loss was about.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I hated this team coming to the

502
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: season just because Chad just said, you have Gino Smith

503
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Speaker 2: behind arguably one of the worst offensive lines of football.

504
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Speaker 2: To me, that screams disaster, right, Chad, Like, I don't

505
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: know how they're going to make that work. But now

506
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna mix in. They have such a great mind

507
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: on defense where it's like, okay, maybe they'll just play

508
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: super smart conservative, like they can make it work. Can

509
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: they win this division? No, But we got a team

510
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Speaker 2: coming up that might be able to. But this isn't

511
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Speaker 2: the team I'm really gonna bet large futures on just

512
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Speaker 2: for them winning the division. But it is a team that,

513
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Speaker 2: you know, I do have him at seven wins the

514
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Speaker 2: or over runner seven and a half. Thankfully I'm towards

515
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Speaker 2: the under. I don't mind if they're a little on

516
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Speaker 2: the over here. Again, I just like this division. It's

517
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: like I can see it breaking the right way for

518
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: them that you know, if it's Sam Howard, you know

519
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Smith that quarterback. They have the weapons, like we talked about,

520
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: they have really good guys on the outside. It's just

521
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: what are we gonna get from this offensive line. It's

522
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: like that's the biggest question, or that's why I can't

523
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Speaker 2: bet them to win this division because it's like, even

524
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Speaker 2: if I'm running the perfect simulation of the perfect world

525
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: where everything breaks right for them, I never had them

526
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Speaker 2: breaking eleven wins, and I think you need to have

527
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Speaker 2: over eleven wins to win this division. So this is

528
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Speaker 2: the team I am really excited about. But that's the biggest,

529
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Speaker 2: the biggest fear right now. It's just the old line,

530
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: like you're one of the worst in football. It doesn't

531
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Speaker 2: look like there's anything on the horizon. Look, there's no

532
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: guys out there that could add or trades they can

533
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Speaker 2: make to really improve it. At this point, it is

534
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Speaker 2: what it is right So to me, this is the

535
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Speaker 2: team that we're gonna learn really quickly by October kind

536
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: of what their identity is, what their personality is, are

537
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: their new head coach and if he is the savior

538
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Speaker 2: of with this defense, because you like, they got the guys,

539
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Like on defense, they do have a lot of really

540
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: good pieces, even to the secondary. It's like they've been

541
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Speaker 2: drafting for the secondary the last couple of years and

542
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, now you have you have the players,

543
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: you have the first round picks. You just needed the

544
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: teacher to come in and kind of make it work.

545
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: So Pete Carroll got a little bit of a rod deal,

546
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: but they're much better at where they're at right now,

547
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: going with a really sharp defensive mind. When the best

548
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: on football, and they would have been rolling it back

549
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: with another year of Pete Carroll, which got nothing against Pete.

550
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Speaker 2: I just think of all the older coaches, I understood

551
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Speaker 2: the most why they were like, Okay, we need change here.

552
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: So you know, a ton of pressure on Meg McDonald

553
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Speaker 2: year one. It could be a total disaster. I mean

554
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Speaker 2: that's what I really thought it was going to be

555
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. But I've just come around

556
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: on his coaching style where it's like, now you're gonna

557
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: have this defense ready every week. They're gonna be on

558
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: the more prepared teams. The biggest question chat is going

559
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: to be offensive line and can they keep that quarterback healthy.

560
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Speaker 1: I really wish Matt Mitchell you might have to find

561
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Speaker 1: the drop. I believe it was this time last year

562
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Speaker 1: where Simon Hunter might have declared Jackson Smith and Jigba,

563
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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett and DK metcalf as the greatest trio of

564
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Speaker 1: receivers in history. Am I am? I misremembering that?

565
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Speaker 2: You are? You keep mis remembering the end sentence. Possibly

566
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Speaker 2: I don't remember. I left myself. Yeah, don't worry, I

567
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: left myself and out. We went back and looked I

568
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: left myself and out.

569
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Speaker 1: So I don't remember any qualifiers. I just remember the

570
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Speaker 1: enormity of the statement.

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Speaker 4: The phrase he used was arguably the best wide receiver

572
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Speaker 4: room in history. So arguably was the qualifier. Like saying,

573
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Speaker 4: you know, buffalo wings are arguably better with ranch versus

574
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Speaker 4: blue cheese.

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Speaker 3: It's just factually incorrect and it makes you look like

576
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Speaker 3: kind of an asshole.

577
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Speaker 2: Well, I just don't because people don't understand because they're

578
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Speaker 2: up in the middle of nowhere the West Coast. It's

579
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Speaker 2: like DK is a stud, Tyler Lockett's a stud, and

580
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Speaker 2: Jim Budd is just I don't know. I loved him

581
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Speaker 2: at Ohio State, so I.

582
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Speaker 1: Didn't you're he was great last there's no yeah.

583
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Speaker 2: But at the end of that I put that on

584
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Speaker 2: Geno Smith, like he has the weapons, but apparently he

585
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Speaker 2: does not have the old line.

586
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Speaker 1: He does not have the old line. It's interesting. We've

587
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Speaker 1: had so many conversations about coaches in the last two episodes.

588
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: The literal investment we make in some of them. Right,

589
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you talked about Antonio Peers with the Raiders, and you

590
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you are making an investment if you bet the over

591
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Speaker 1: with the Raiders that he is going to be a

592
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Speaker 1: version of Mike Tomlin, a version of Mike Tomlin who

593
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: can get so much out of this team. Like we

594
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: saw at the end of last year, they are not

595
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Speaker 1: very talented. And although there are incredible hype videos of

596
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew working out looking like he's out of the

597
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, I don't know that Gardner Minshew is going

598
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Speaker 1: to turn this team into what we think it can

599
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: really what we might expect it to be. Over six

600
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Speaker 1: and a half wins, who knows. You're really investing in

601
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Antonio Pearce in his ability to turn that team around.

602
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: We just said the same thing about Kyle Shanahan. If

603
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you're investing in the Niners at over eleven and a half,

604
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: or even the Rams at over eight and a half,

605
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: you're investing in the coach's ability to draw out the

606
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: best of their players with their scheme, being able to

607
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: overcome injuries, being able to overcome contract holdouts, etc.

608
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Etc.

609
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, great coordinator at Michigan, great coordinator with Baltimore.

610
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Speaker 1: That's a huge investment and a huge statement to be

611
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: able to say I would go over seven and a

612
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Speaker 1: half because I believe this coach is going to be smart,

613
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: enough to figure out what to do with his defense

614
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and keep them in the game and keep the defense

615
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: off the field because they're running something conservatively offensively old statement.

616
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Speaker 2: That's times what I would do, though, it just seems

617
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: like their identity should be their defense, where it's like

618
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: they just don't have the pieces yet on offense to

619
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Speaker 2: really make that their identity.

620
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Speaker 1: Almost as bold as saying Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf and

621
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Speaker 1: Jackson Smith in Jigma and Jigma are the greatest trio

622
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: of receivers in NFL history, not possibly possibly greatest trio

623
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Speaker 1: of receivers ever. All right, last team in the NFC West.

624
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Speaker 1: I want to love this team, Yeah, I want to

625
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: love this team so much. The Arizona Cardinals. One hundred

626
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Speaker 1: to one to win the Super Bowl plus thirteen hundred

627
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: to win the Division. Six and a half is the

628
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: win total seventeenth hardest schedule. This is what started to

629
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Speaker 1: worry me when I dug in, because you and I

630
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: like superficially been talking about the Cardinals all off season

631
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: and a Kyler Murray upswing. And this is when I

632
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: got scared. All Line rank twenty six, D line rank

633
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: thirty second. They're only thirty two teams in the NFL.

634
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: So their pff D line rank heading into the year

635
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: thirty second. They played so hard last year they were

636
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: two and five in one score games. I know we

637
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: all made fun of Jonathan Gannon before the season began

638
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: last year. He was so awkward socially in those videos

639
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: when he's meeting Kyler Murray or giving pep talks. But

640
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I thought he coached him up and I thought he

641
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: had them playing hard no matter the circumstance. And even

642
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who had a reputation as being someone who

643
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: could be aloof, seemed to be invested in working really hard.

644
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Speaker 1: Keep me on the ledge here.

645
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like the Panthers. The Panthers, we were

646
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: what we took them at eleven, ten to one, nine

647
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: to one to come worse the first. That's how I

648
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: feel about the Cardinals here, Like this is the team

649
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: that I'm betting that thirteen to one to win this division.

650
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: It's just a team that could shock the world just

651
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: because it's all there offensively, Chad like, they got all

652
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: the pieces they need. They have a defensive coach. I

653
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: think he'll be able to figure it out on defense.

654
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Like do you really think this team's gonna win twelve

655
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: thirteen games. No, but there is a world where they

656
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: can do it. Like there is a world where this

657
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: team can turn around and really have an incredible season.

658
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: It's like we've seen that time and time again, and

659
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: it happened in the football right. The team gets in

660
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: the right scenario with the right offensive pieces and they

661
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: can make it work. And that's how I feel here.

662
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: Like the fact they took marmon Aris Junior is my

663
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: favorite draft pick up the whole draft. Like I love

664
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: they could have traded out right, they could have traded back,

665
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: maybe got a couple of D lineman Chad. Instead, they

666
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: went for the once in a lifetime generational talent, which

667
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: I want teams to do. It's like you get the guy,

668
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: you get your Larry Fitzgerald. Now they're good, hopefully for

669
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years at the wire position with marmon

670
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Aris Junior. And you know McBride the tight end and

671
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: no one talks about this guy is an absolute stud.

672
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: If you look down the stretch, he's one of the

673
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: best tight ends in all football. And Kyler Murray loved

674
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: using him, like he felt comfortable throwing to this guy.

675
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: So you know, we got Kyler year two after the

676
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: ACL injury, right, I believe that's what he injured. It's

677
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: a big deal, like we should see him back to

678
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: his old running self and I mean being Chad's worst

679
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: lost of our lives. I think it was on the Raiders.

680
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: We had the Raiders against Arizona. I believe they are up,

681
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen, with a couple of minutes to go,

682
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: and Arizona comes all the way back and Kyler Murray

683
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: ran the length of two football fields on the two

684
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: point conversion and just found a guy in the back

685
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: of the end zone. Like that's that's what we're hoping here.

686
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: It's like this kid does have magic. There's a reason

687
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: he was a number one pick, you know, there's a

688
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: reason that he's still the guy for this team. And

689
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: when I talked to you know, different people that are around

690
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: the team and read stuff by the beat writers, it

691
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: seems like it seems like Chad that he's gotten over,

692
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: you know, his childish stuff of leaving early to go

693
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: play video games. It seems like he's growing up where

694
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: he is the first guy in, last guy out, which

695
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: I know it sounds corny, but to me, that's such

696
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: a big deal when you're the quarterback, like you're setting

697
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: the example. If you're not working the hardest, what's the point,

698
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Like you're the guy, like you know, at the end

699
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: of the day, all that matters is how hard, how

700
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: much execution, how much preparedness this quarterback has. And I

701
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: feel like Kyle Leer's kind of turned that corner. You

702
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of realize you turn into a little bit of

703
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: a joke in this league. So I'm just so excited

704
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: for this team. It sucks too where they're Of all

705
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: the teams we talked about three four months ago, I

706
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: felt like this was the most beloved team by most professionals, right, Chad,

707
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: like even talking Week one, like the pros love them

708
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: when they're plus seven to seven and a half against

709
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: the Bills. I think that linees down to six and

710
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: a half now for Week one. But this is just

711
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: a team that the professionals love, and I think even

712
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: these last moments, I've noticed the fantasy football community loves

713
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: this team now. Right, they do have these guys on

714
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: offense that they do really love. Even if James Connor

715
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: goes down. I like the backup trade Benson, like they

716
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: have good, good pieces all across the offense. You just

717
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: said the question years what is this defense going to be?

718
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: Like they gutted this defense and this was a lot

719
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: of head coach doing it too right, you wanted to

720
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: make this team there's own identity. You're right, Like, could

721
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: this team be one of what the worst rush defenses

722
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: in all football? They could? Like I have them greater

723
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: right next to the Chargers. I do have as the

724
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: thirty second worst rush defense. So Arizona could struggle or

725
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, and the scheme fixes all

726
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: their weaknesses. Right, That's that's the credible part about football,

727
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: is the right scheme can fix so many weaknesses. So

728
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: this is a team I'm extremely high on. And maybe

729
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: maybe I'm drinking a little bit of or having a

730
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: little bit of fools goal here, Chad, but I'm just

731
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: really excited about this team, what they can be and

732
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: the prospects of getting them at thirteen to one to

733
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: win this division. Like it just feels like no one's

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: really believing in them, where I don't think they're that

735
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: far away from this Rams team, Like the difference between

736
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: those two teams don't feel that different. Where last year

737
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: at the same exact time, the Rams defense with the

738
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: thirtieth ranked defense and all the football because they were

739
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: so young and they gutted that whole team. They turned

740
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: it around after a year. And that's what again, that's

741
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: what good coaching can do in this league. It's we

742
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: talk all the time the difference between the best player

743
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: on the starting team and the worst bench player on

744
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: a different team is only that much. Like, that's how

745
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: incredibly good all these guys in the NFL. I mean,

746
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: we joke all the time. You take people like, hey,

747
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: watch the preseason. You're like, literally preseason football. These guys

748
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: would like the worst preseason team. They would wax Georgia

749
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: from last year. Like that's the different step up from

750
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: college football the NFL. So my whole thing in people

751
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: realizing is that that's how why we talk so much

752
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: about coaching, because you know, to me, it goes obviously,

753
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: number one always is gonna be the quarterback, but number

754
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: two is always the coach. Like when I'm thinking about

755
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: the most important pieces to different teams, that's always wherey

756
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: lan And you're right, do I have the most extreme

757
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: faith in this head coach and uh what he can

758
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: bring to the table, I don't. I do have questions,

759
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: but then I go back in. There's certain games last

760
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: year I watch, I'm just like, he can prepare his

761
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: team right and scheme right. I mean that Dallas Cowboys game.

762
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: He was in his bag in that game, like he

763
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: really knew how to attack Dak because he had seen Dak,

764
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, multiple times being on the Eagles staff, right,

765
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: he kind of knew had a rhythm to what to

766
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: do for putting his team in the best position. So

767
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: I think he'll run what he did with the Eagles team,

768
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: which is basically just a prevent defense. It's like, Okay,

769
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: we'll give up five six yards passing, three four yards rushing.

770
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: We'll let you guys go all the way down the field.

771
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Once we get in the red zone, that's when we

772
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: clamp down. I think that's exactly the type of defense

773
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna run this year, where it's like they're just

774
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna let teams kind of run it down the field

775
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: and then clamp down the red zone. They're gonna trade

776
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: out score teams, which again I think they have the

777
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: pieces chat on offense to do it. So Yeah, just

778
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: like the Panthers, this is another worst the first team.

779
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about like, I just really love all

780
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: the pieces they have there, and I could be a

781
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: year early. That's the only fear here is I'm a

782
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: year early just because they do have some holes they

783
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: need to fill. But I can't help it. I'm just

784
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm already into it. I'm already so excited for this team.

785
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm really hoping bank on Kyler Murray taking

786
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: that next step, which we all expect he will now

787
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: that he's putting the work in, he's kind of grown

788
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: up more. I do believe this team will take another

789
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: step and you know, shock the world and win this

790
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: division at thirteen to one.

791
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Chad, look, I was laughing a second ago as I

792
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: put on my glasses and I was looking at my

793
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: notes because I can't wait when I wrap this up

794
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: to remind people of some of our favorite bets from

795
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: our division reviews. And it's so in keeping with how

796
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: disgusting everything we do inbedding and what we ask of

797
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: our listeners to do. It's actually astonishing the three teams

798
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: where if I have notes on this that we are

799
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: most excited about, we have spent the most time talking about,

800
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: we have been most enthusiastic about. I wish I wish

801
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: this could be the show like first Take, where all

802
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: we do is talk about the Cowboys. I wish it

803
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: would make everything so much easier. We just can't do it.

804
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: We're just going to end up investing time in the

805
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and that's where the opportunity is. Kyler Murray's

806
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: growing up. I really hope it's true. Kids do grow up, right.

807
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I have a twenty one year old. I have a

808
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: seventeen year old. If you had told me when they

809
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: were eleven and seven that they would be what they

810
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: are today, which is the opposite of completely idiotic boys,

811
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I would have been shocked. But they grow up and

812
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: they get smarter, and they get more mature, and they

813
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: calm down and they understand their responsibilities and they reprioritize things.

814
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: It's just what happens, and hopefully Kyler Murray has done that.

815
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I was certainly really impressed with how we played last year,

816
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: how we played in turmoil. Last year. A new situation.

817
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: He has a number one receiver, first time he's having

818
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: that other than DeAndre Hopkins, and he really didn't get

819
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: to play with him as much as he possibly could

820
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: have because of injuries and here's what does give me

821
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: hope for this team. Okay, outside their division, they have

822
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they have the Commanders, they have the Chargers,

823
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: they have the Bears, which we know. I believe they

824
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: will go under their overhyped over expected season win total,

825
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: which I respect.

826
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Is when every time I could don't watch a Hard Knocks,

827
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, damn, this team is good. So I

828
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: respect you're kind of pulling it back because they are

829
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: a team.

830
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: Listen, I haven't watched this week's episode yet because I

831
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: was in the city Tuesday and Wednesday night and got

832
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: home late last night and my kid was out doing

833
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: his fantasy draft so he wasn't home and I like

834
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: to watch.

835
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: It with him.

836
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: But and they got the Vikings. That's five winnable games

837
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: outside the division to me for a team that has

838
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: six and a half wins, and they could steal one, right,

839
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: they did it last year. They old games against better teams.

840
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of what we're talking about.

841
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: And they're a team where they have important divisional games

842
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: early in the year, like you know, they started to

843
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: hear with Buffalo. That's that's really tough obviously, but then

844
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: they get to come home and play the Rams, right,

845
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: and then a couple of weeks later they get to

846
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: go to the forty nine ers, Like, we're gonna know

847
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: really early on, this team's gonna be battle tested really early, right,

848
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: they go Bills Rams Detroit, then they come home there

849
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: against Washington. Then they're at the forty nine ers and

850
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: then at Green Bay, Like, we're gonna know really really

851
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: quick if this was a really dumb better, if this

852
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: is like a really good team that you know, was

853
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: slept on by people. So I love how their schedule

854
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: is because it's like they're gonna get some really good

855
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: looks at what kind of offense they're gonna be early

856
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: on against pretty talented defenses.

857
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: So I was laughing before because I'm looking at my

858
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: notes from the past what eight episodes of preview of

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Speaker 1: previews for the division. The teams that we have been

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Speaker 1: so enthusiastic about that we've gone all in on that

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Speaker 1: we are begging people to bet Carolina Panthers over in

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Speaker 1: the division, the Las Vegas Raiders over six and a half,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals over in the division. The good news

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Speaker 1: is we love the Bengals and we have been on

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Speaker 1: that since early in the offseason, so I do feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good about that we have.

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Speaker 2: Still if you want me to be boring, I think

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Speaker 2: I've told you my biggest bets right now for division.

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Speaker 2: One of them is Detroit that's pretty boring. Another one's

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, pretty boring, another one's the Eagles, pretty boring.

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Speaker 2: And then the fourth one I guess is a little

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Speaker 2: more exciting is the Jets. I just love that Jets team.

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Speaker 2: So if you're like, I don't want to bet that

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Speaker 2: ugly Simon, I get it. I do have some chalk

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Speaker 2: out there for you guys if you wouldn't just want

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Speaker 2: to go chalk, which I got no issue doing. If

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tie my money for six seven months,

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Speaker 2: go chalk. But if you do love this show, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna need you to go put a futures on the

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Speaker 2: Panthers and win their division, and go put it futures

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Speaker 2: on the Cardinals. Like that's what we love and makes

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Speaker 2: a show so great. I know it sounds dumb and crazy.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago we gave up the Jags at ten

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Speaker 2: to one to eleven to one to win their division.

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Speaker 2: It came through. So it's like, you know, we're not

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Speaker 2: just blindly making these bets. Not We're not just giving

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Speaker 2: out these fourth place teams all the times. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a little method to this madness, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for you. It's like, Okay, a team

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Speaker 2: that people are really down from last year that me

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Speaker 2: and Chat think the talent's risen above what people perceive

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Speaker 2: as it has from the previous year. So those are

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Speaker 2: the teams where even this offseason, like every day I'm

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Speaker 2: checking the beat writers down to Carolina because I'm just

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how excited for this Panthers team. But

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Speaker 2: it's like, I just I love buying low on teams

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Speaker 2: when they got a new coach, come in when they

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Speaker 2: have a high draft pick like Bryce Young. So it

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Speaker 2: just fits our criteria of teams we like to bet,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I hope people can get there with us.

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Speaker 2: But I told totally even when you're reading out loud,

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Speaker 2: I totally get if people are just like I can't

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Speaker 2: do it. It's like, you know, at Savior Bank Role,

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Speaker 2: we start some real games in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And look, we're going to talk about our best bets

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Speaker 1: next week. We're gonna have Kyle, like we said, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Stucky and Colin on talking college football Week one,

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Speaker 1: and Simon and I will also have the last episode

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Speaker 1: before we get into NFL season, our best Futures Bets

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Speaker 1: summary of everything, anything we've left off the board. We're

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Speaker 1: definitely going to talk about the rond Robin bets we

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Speaker 1: make of Super Bowl matchups, which I love and will

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Speaker 1: one want to talk about in depth.

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Speaker 2: But we'll try to find another one. We get at

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill last year, one or two of those as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think we loved, we loved. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: think it was Kayleb Williams over thirty six hundred passing yards.

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Speaker 2: I checked it was thirty thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just stealing. Had ain't right Even if I

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Speaker 1: have a rational exuberance, which I know, which I don't.

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Speaker 1: All you got to do is watch him roll out

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Speaker 1: fling it like just a flick of the wrist, eight

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Speaker 1: million yards to Roma Dunes against that defense. Oh you

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Speaker 1: know what I wanted to say, here we go. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you made a really good point about bad teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. A couple of years ago, my buddy Matt

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Speaker 1: called me and he's like, do you think the and

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Speaker 1: Bama was killing everybody. He's like, I was just having

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Speaker 1: this debate with one of my kids, do you think

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Speaker 1: Bama could beat Jacksonville? And I'm like, that's idiotic. He

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Speaker 1: goes why. I go, let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: How many people on the Alabama roster right now will

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Speaker 1: end up playing in the NFL. Say there's an eighty

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Speaker 1: man roster, how many of those guys will play in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We landed at like, over that four year cycle,

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Speaker 1: maybe twenty five guys, And that would be a lot.

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Speaker 1: So let's say it's that that would be over exaggeration.

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Speaker 1: So then I said to him, to a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a trick, question, how many guys in the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: can play in the NFL? And except how many guys

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Speaker 1: in the Jaguars roster can play in the NFL? He

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Speaker 1: goes out, He goes, I don't know, I go all

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Speaker 1: fifty two of them, You fucking idiot. They're just better

944
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Speaker 1: football players. They're better, they're stronger, they're faster, they're older.

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Speaker 1: The best of every single college team is playing on

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Speaker 1: the worst NFL team. There's no way a college football

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Speaker 1: team is ever going to beat an NFL team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And a joke I always tellt was when I

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Speaker 2: talking to a guy about the basically exactly what you

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Speaker 2: he was on either BAMO or LSU at the time.

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Speaker 2: He goes he's going to get drafted by a team.

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Speaker 2: He's going to sit behind a guy that played at

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Speaker 2: Stony Brook and UCLA for two years. Like, you don't

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Speaker 2: thing people can't really wrap their head around. That's that's

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Speaker 2: my whole point. Though. It's just coaching so important because

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Speaker 2: all these guys have talent. It's the coaches that can

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