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Speaker 4: Ar Hey, everybody, welcome to a on location edition of Naked.

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl Week festivities are insane. We're at Radio Row.

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Speaker 4: I have a very special guest and I have been

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Speaker 4: doing some chatting with him off the record, which still

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Speaker 4: of some things that I think you guys will enjoy.

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Speaker 4: Uh Kobe Turner no tackle for the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 4: I will admit I am biased because I grew up

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Speaker 4: in LA. I'm a diehard RAMS fan. I'd like to

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Speaker 4: talk to you about in general, because on Naked, we'd

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Speaker 4: like to figure out who you are before we find

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Speaker 4: out where you're going.

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Speaker 5: Do you love LA, because I know you're not from LA.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 6: It's different. I don't know if I can say I

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Speaker 6: love LA yet I love Thousand Oaks. That's where we're at.

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Speaker 6: It's a nice little quiet.

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Speaker 5: Space, you know, not necessarily LA proper.

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Speaker 6: Though, right right, I mean, I go into La whenever

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Speaker 6: I need to get into something fun, find some good food.

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Speaker 6: But me and my fiance are settling in nice and easy.

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Speaker 5: You like it, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So it's interesting because you have been described as a

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Speaker 4: part of a rookie class, specifically with the RAMS that

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Speaker 4: is special that probably for many was surprising considering where

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Speaker 4: you were drafted.

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Speaker 5: I believe it was third round, right, you and Puka.

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Speaker 1: I was in the third. B Y was in the third,

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Speaker 1: Steve was in the second, Pooka was fifth. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Just think about that because the RAMS didn't have any

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Speaker 4: first round options and you usually think that, Well, that's

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Speaker 4: I love the story of a diamond in the rough

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Speaker 5: What would you.

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Speaker 5: How would you describe what you all have for the

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Speaker 5: Rams in terms of.

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Speaker 4: This rookie class that has broken records and you guys

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Speaker 4: are ready to receive all awards. You already won ap

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Speaker 4: Defensive Rookie of the Year right or of the month

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Speaker 4: the month of the month of the month. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: tell me about all of the How do you feel

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Speaker 4: this is all coming out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I feel like we're a special group of guys, you know,

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Speaker 6: with all of that, it was a lot, But this

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Speaker 1: Like we're all just grateful to be a part of

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Speaker 5: You know what's interesting.

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Speaker 4: You just say the word character, and I don't necessarily

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Speaker 5: And I'm a little curious about your background.

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Speaker 4: You grew up in Virginia, you went to Wake Forest

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Speaker 4: and if you haven't seen a football game, or more specifically,

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Speaker 4: And my research tells me that you were a major

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Speaker 4: moment could not be playing football, up for finalists.

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Speaker 5: For Defensive Rookie of the Year. You could be a

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Speaker 4: You could be doing music right now, but you chose

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Speaker 5: Tell me a little bit about your interest in music.

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Speaker 5: Why that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So music has been a part of my life

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Speaker 6: I was doing multiple choirs. Really a lot of my

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Speaker 5: Let me get this straight.

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Speaker 4: Let me just get this straight, guys, because pay attention

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Speaker 4: to what we're saying. He is up for the finalists

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Speaker 5: He did not wanted you eight. He wanted to go

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Speaker 4: About that, because you cannot just assume someone is one thing,

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Speaker 5: Do you just sing care freely?

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Speaker 5: You know where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 6: I do some I do some covers. I can I

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Speaker 6: I was in choir throughout college at Richmond, and I

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Speaker 4: So there is a song that's out right now that's

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Speaker 4: I Call You Rose?

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Speaker 8: Have you?

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Speaker 5: Can I Call You Rose? Okay? What song would you sing?

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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 4: Like like if you just wanted to impress people with

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Speaker 6: So there's like a I do a couple of different things.

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Speaker 6: I can vote a little bit. I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: I think you might surprise us. I think you might

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, aw right, just fuck. I used to know,

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Speaker 2: What was I made for?

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Speaker 4: So bravo, bravo, guys. Kobe is a renaissance man. You

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Speaker 4: People are walking past, and he, without any any hesitation, said,

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Speaker 5: And how big you? How tall are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm like six two three quarters.

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Speaker 1: Like three hundred, like two ninety five.

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Speaker 4: A voice is special and delicate, and I am positive

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Speaker 4: I've seen you trash talk also on the field, so

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Speaker 5: We do it all. Do you sing over somebody after

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Speaker 1: Nah, I just gotta you, just gotta get the you know,

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Speaker 4: Get And what is the choir doing because he's known

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Speaker 6: Something something like smooth and chill, like Eric Whittaker, ass

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Speaker 1: It's just take a deep breath, get up there, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious, when this this football thing is over, do

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to be a high school choir director.

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Speaker 6: For me throughout high school, like, choir was a thing

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Speaker 6: to be able to express myself.

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Speaker 1: And my high school choir director. Her name is Lynn Babcock.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Lynn. Shout out to Lynn.

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Speaker 6: She's been incredible. She was just such a huge impact.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like the music side that she gave me,

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Speaker 6: through the structure of music, through just being able to

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Speaker 6: be a part of something greater than myself and being

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Speaker 6: an acchoir, that's something that I want to attempt to

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Speaker 6: give back, and so I don't think I can do

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Speaker 6: it like her. She is a special human being. But

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Speaker 6: definitely to have even a quarter of the impact that

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Speaker 4: Wow, Kobe, I'm so impressed by you. Not only are

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Speaker 4: you amazing on the field, but off the field, you

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Speaker 4: offer so much more. And that's what I wanted people

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Speaker 4: to know. All right, So talk to me about your name.

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Speaker 4: I assumed your name was Kobe, based after my favorite

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Speaker 4: athlete of all time, Los Angeles Laker Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 5: May he rest in peace.

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Speaker 4: Today is his birthday, by the way, Okay, as we

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Speaker 4: this won't air on his birthday, but today is his

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Speaker 4: I absolutely love that for you, And I also love if,

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Speaker 4: if we're being honest, what it represents like a life

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Speaker 5: It was a life jacket and a fish.

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Speaker 6: Expectations come and they go, and I just have to

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Expectations. Pressure all a privilege. Pressure a privilege, so says

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned tonight, we are recording this. This will

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Speaker 4: last questions. Tonight, NFL honors finalists for Defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 5: Keep it a buck. Don't you care about winning? Like,

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Speaker 4: She could you imagine it's a song coming about the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Kobe Turner nos tackle for the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 4: He led all NFL rookie defensive players with nine sacks.

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Speaker 5: I can give him many many.

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Speaker 4: Accolades, but the best thing that I can say about

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Speaker 5: Your parents did a good job. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 4: Hey everybody, So I am letting you know this podcast,

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Speaker 4: As mentioned. However, he has done something that I think

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Speaker 4: We're making sure that these people look like us, talk

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Speaker 4: the National Football League. Sit back and relax and enjoy,

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Speaker 4: my dear friend, as we get into it in Kicky

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Speaker 4: a little bit, Coach Mike Bockski skiks, we are here

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Speaker 4: a radio row in Las Vegas, and it is special.

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Speaker 4: If I could set the scene for you, guys, because

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Speaker 4: you don't have the visual for you all. Rather, media

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Speaker 4: outlets from all over the world are here to cover

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Speaker 4: this Super Bowl. But what we're doing here on the

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Speaker 4: Naked Podcast is talking to folks who are making a difference.

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Speaker 4: You know, I love to do that on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: I like to talk to people who are doing things

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Speaker 4: at a high level for the good of mankind, and

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Speaker 4: it just so happens to be in sports.

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Speaker 8: My guests Coach and Mike Locksley almost called you lock

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Speaker 8: You told me I got the essen there. It's like

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Speaker 8: Robin out of Locksley. Coach, Mike Locksley rich to give

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Speaker 8: to the poor. University of Maryland been my friend for

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Speaker 8: a very long time. Please forgive me complete brain fart,

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Speaker 8: But that's okayen happens in the.

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Speaker 7: Middle of talking. I sometimes forget what I was talking about.

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Speaker 7: So welcome to the club.

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Speaker 5: All the time it's it's called aging.

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Speaker 4: So how long have you been here in Vegas, Sin

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Speaker 4: City enjoying yourself while doing some work?

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm actually I got in late last night.

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Speaker 7: We had signing day yesterday at Maryland, and so we

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Speaker 7: signed three players, which the February signing date is and

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Speaker 7: media coverage of it. But nonetheless still had a lot

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Speaker 7: of work to do in January with recruiting and retention,

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Speaker 7: and so now I'm working on my part time job.

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Speaker 7: I flew in last night. I'm here as the president

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Speaker 7: and founder of the National Coalition for Minority Football Coaches,

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Speaker 7: I had to come here to Radio Row the second

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Speaker 7: year in the row. We've done this because the three

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Speaker 7: pillars of our organization is to prepare, promote, and.

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Speaker 5: Produce, care, promote and produce.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so we prepare aspiring coaches from the Youth

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Speaker 7: Football League, high school, college NFL that want to become

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Speaker 7: head coaches. We prepare them by having programming throughout the

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Speaker 7: year with our organization chalk talks or zooms or again,

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Speaker 7: we created an academy where we brought in our top

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Speaker 7: coordinators and we pair them with athletic directors for a

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Speaker 7: year or two in a mentorship role. The NFL just

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Speaker 7: recently had four minority hires in their hiring cycles. So

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Speaker 7: the promotion part is coming here and doing a great

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Speaker 7: job of getting with the media people that really influence

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Speaker 7: hiring to let them know that we've got some really

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Speaker 7: good coaches that are prepared to do and lead. And

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Speaker 7: then the last is produced and you know, through the

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Speaker 7: the tools necessary to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Here's what's interesting, because this has been a conversation a

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Speaker 4: conversation I've had. We've had that's in the in the

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Speaker 4: obviously in the media zegeist, if you will, how there

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Speaker 4: are not enough minority head coaches, lots of coordinators, but

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Speaker 4: just that next level. People point out certain coordinators like

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Speaker 4: Eric b Enemy and they say, why why didn't he

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Speaker 4: have a job. This man seems like he's perfect, He

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Speaker 4: seems like he should be working. Most recently let go

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Speaker 4: out of DC with Ron Rivera and his staff. I'm

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Speaker 4: curious about, and that's Washington commanders. I am curious about.

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Speaker 4: Why is there why is it so hard for somebody

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Speaker 7: You know what, that's the question as an organization we're

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Speaker 7: working really hard to come up with solutions for because

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Speaker 7: there's no reason eb should not be a head coach

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Speaker 7: in the NFL or running somebody's college program. He has

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Speaker 7: too much to offer. You know, it's ironic as you

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Speaker 7: say that and you ask the question, because you know,

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Speaker 7: when we started this organization, and Mike Tomlin has been

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Speaker 7: a huge part of this organization, We've got a board

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Speaker 7: of directors of guys like Nick Sabe and Ozzie Knwsom,

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Speaker 7: Doug Williams, Rick Smith, Desiree Reed Francois down at Missouri

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Speaker 7: has been there from the inception of this organization. People

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Speaker 7: are not hiring us because of our ethnicity. They're hiring

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Speaker 7: not hiring us because they don't know us. And here's

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Speaker 7: what I just saw, all right. We had four hires

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Speaker 7: in the NFL just recently, and of those hires, Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 7: All right, Arthur Blank had familiarity with Raheem. Sure he

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Speaker 7: worked under there, under Dan Quinn there as a coordinator.

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Speaker 7: You look over at the New England Patriots and Gerard Mayo,

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Speaker 7: he played for that organization. The owner knew him, all right.

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Speaker 7: Demico Ryan a year ago was drafted by the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 7: Of course they would hire him because they know him.

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Speaker 7: They're not hiring us, not because of our ethnicity or

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Speaker 7: we can't do the job. They're not hiring us because

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Speaker 7: they don't know us. And I lived that firsthand because

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Speaker 7: I went to work for Nick Saban as an analyst,

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Speaker 7: a senior analyst, and I didn't know Nick and he

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Speaker 7: didn't know me. But after six months on the job,

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Speaker 7: he promoted me the co coordinator. A year later he

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Speaker 7: makes me the coordinator and because of me, being under

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Speaker 7: his umbrella. I get recycled after being fired at New Mexico.

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Speaker 7: I get my dream job, which is to come home

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Speaker 7: and lead the University of Maryland. But it was only

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Speaker 7: because Nick Saban found out who Mike Loxley was. And

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Speaker 7: so what we've got to do as an organization is

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Speaker 7: keep partnering and mentoring and putting people together because if

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Speaker 7: they get to know us as minorities, some of these

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Speaker 7: hiring officials, yeah, they'll find out we're capable of doing

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Speaker 4: And when you say get to know, it's really interesting

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Speaker 4: to me because I find that in my business too.

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Speaker 4: Some people say, well, we're looking for some really qualified,

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Speaker 4: diverse journalists, and I'm like, they're in abundance. And so

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Speaker 4: there's only so much that you can do as an advocate.

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Speaker 4: The ownus you know, should be on these teams to

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Speaker 4: really truly want that, And if you only hire the

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Speaker 4: people you know, and you like, how do you ever

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Speaker 4: solve the problem, because you can't go you can, but

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Speaker 4: I feel like that would be a tough task to

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Speaker 4: go door to door and say, let me, here's ten

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Speaker 4: more people you should be looking at, because if they

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Speaker 4: already have somebody in mind, they're gonna go with who

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Speaker 7: Well, that's why they need to come to our convention

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Speaker 7: next week here at the Horseshoe in Vegas, UH in

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Speaker 7: a two day setting. If you really are interested in

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Speaker 7: getting to know minority coaches, we've got our convention here.

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Speaker 7: And I know as a young coach when I was

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Speaker 7: part of the BCA where guys like John Thompson, Nolan Richardson,

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Speaker 7: John Cheney Temple, and George Raveling out at USC they

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Speaker 7: all were the forefathers of standing up for and advocating

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Speaker 7: for minorities. I can remember John Thompson and our in

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Speaker 7: of Prop forty two with his tiel on the shoulder.

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Speaker 9: You know, our conventions next week.

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Speaker 7: You if you're interested in hiring a diverse pool or

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Speaker 7: getting to know what a better place than coming to

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Speaker 7: a convention and spending quality time. I mean a lot

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Speaker 7: of business deals are done on the golf course, why

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Speaker 7: because of the relationship piece.

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Speaker 5: It's all about the relationship.

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Speaker 7: What we've tried to do through the coalition and that

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Speaker 7: academy that we started when we opened up the doors

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Speaker 7: to our organization is we pair our our top guys,

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Speaker 7: I mean the Josh Gaddises of the world. Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 7: was a guy that was part of our academy, the

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Speaker 7: first class. Who's the head coach at Notre Dame. Well,

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Speaker 7: we paired them with you know, Greg Burn at Alabama

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Speaker 7: for a year and a half to two years where

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Speaker 7: they really got to know. It's like you're you do mentoring.

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Speaker 7: I see your stuff with you.

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Speaker 4: You have to introduce the people, you have to make

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Speaker 4: the connection with the other part you talk about golf.

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Speaker 5: It's the humanity of it all. If they don't see

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Speaker 5: the humanity in.

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Speaker 4: The minority head coach, the black head coach more specifically,

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Speaker 4: and what I mean by that is if he doesn't

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Speaker 4: remind them of a friend, a family member, so when

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Speaker 4: they can relate to it becomes difficult. What advice do

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Speaker 4: you give out to these coaches who get a little

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Speaker 4: frustrated like eb and wonder, how do you see the

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Speaker 4: humanity in me?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's hard to fight that battle individually for yourself.

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Speaker 7: And that's where having an organization like ours and having

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Speaker 7: media people like you to come let me get on

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Speaker 7: and talk about this. It's my job and our job

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Speaker 7: to fight this battle for eb because it's hard to

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Speaker 7: sit up in front of an owner and pound your

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Speaker 7: chest about what you deserve. I think it's so much

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Speaker 7: better and I find this in recruiting. Third party validation

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Speaker 7: is usually the key to getting and closing a deal. Yes,

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Speaker 7: somebody else that they trust or to believe in. When

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Speaker 7: any really expensive decision you got to make. I'm not

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Speaker 7: going to buy a house and just look at it

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Speaker 7: and I'm gonna do research who built it, what kind

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Speaker 7: of houses have they built? So somehow, some way, we've

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Speaker 7: got to kind of figure out that piece of it.

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Speaker 7: And that's what this organization and when I say promote, prepare,

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Speaker 7: and produce well a promotion piece, we have a responsibility

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Speaker 7: I do as the president and founder of this organization.

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Speaker 7: You do as a media member that covers football to

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Speaker 7: talk tell the stories of the great opportunities and jobs

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Speaker 7: that some of these minority coaches have been able to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you do have some success stories. There are

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Speaker 4: plenty more to be told. We've come a long way,

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Speaker 4: still a long way to go. I often get asked,

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Speaker 4: do you think women in the business have come a

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Speaker 4: long way? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sure, but there's still so much more.

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Speaker 4: Work to be done because it is changing the mindset

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Speaker 4: that has been in place for so long, and the

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Speaker 4: people who make the decisions have that same mindset exactly.

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Speaker 3: Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion,

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Speaker 3: a champion and carry champion and carry chat. Be out

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Speaker 3: a champion and carry champion and carried chat great entertainment, connect,

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Speaker 3: carry champion and carry champion is to be a champion,

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Speaker 3: a champion and carry champion, be out a champion. They

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Speaker 4: Naked, I ask you, as someone who is a leader

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Speaker 4: of men, do you ever and this is you know,

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Speaker 4: the podcast is called Naked, do you ever get discouraged?

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Speaker 4: Because you sound so positive and so and so uplifting

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Speaker 4: and that's what we need. But when you get discouraged,

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Speaker 4: what does that look like? That's Part A, and then

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Speaker 4: part B is how do you?

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Speaker 5: How do you stay the course?

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Speaker 7: So I do get discouraged, we all do, and I

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Speaker 7: usually handle mine in private. You know, I can tell

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Speaker 7: you that I've been this is thirty year thirty four

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Speaker 7: for me in the college coach. I've been at major

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Speaker 7: college football. You were twenty two, Yeah, you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: Benjamin Button. My age backwards. You were twenty two, yeah,

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Speaker 7: thirty three years in this business. And the two week

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Speaker 7: window after we played Rutgers and got to win number seven,

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Speaker 7: I can tell you for the first time in thirty

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Speaker 7: three to thirty four years in this business, I went

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Speaker 7: home and said, I don't know if I'm if I'm

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Speaker 7: reaching these guys because this nil piece and this whole

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Speaker 7: landscape has really changed it from you know, football is

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Speaker 7: my first love. It was football. It's been so good

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Speaker 7: to me. I'm married to this game and it has

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Speaker 7: been so good to me. And you know, I've the

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Speaker 7: first person in my family to go to college and

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Speaker 7: get a degree and graduate. And because of that, all

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Speaker 7: four of my kids went to college and got degrees.

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Speaker 7: And this game has done so much that I owe it.

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Speaker 7: And I still believe that the most value that you'll

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Speaker 7: ever create for yourself is when you do something for

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Speaker 7: others or calls bigger than your own.

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Speaker 9: It just makes you feel good.

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Speaker 7: It's like when you go to church and you write

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Speaker 7: that big checking me out here, just you leave there

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Speaker 7: saying I'm gonna make a difference.

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Speaker 9: And so I'm upbeat.

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Speaker 7: Because we had four coaches hired minority coaches hired in

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Speaker 7: the NFL, and that's huge, and that's huge. Now here's

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Speaker 7: the disappointing piece of it is when you look around

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Speaker 7: the landscape of sports, all right, the NBA, they are

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Speaker 7: well represented by minority head coaches. Most of them are

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Speaker 7: former players major college or Major League Baseball. Most of

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Speaker 7: the head coaches or the managers in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 7: all played the sport hockey the same. Well, for some reason,

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Speaker 7: football where eighty percent of the players that play it

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Speaker 7: in NFL, seventy percent of them in college. But yet

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Speaker 7: we don't have the representation. Well, that's where the money is.

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Speaker 7: There's the money in college football. There's the money in

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Speaker 7: the NFL. They print money. So what we've got to

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Speaker 7: figure out is how to get in front of these people.

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Speaker 7: I saw Ran Carthon, one of my former players at Florida,

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Speaker 7: get the general manager job with the Tennessee Titans through

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Speaker 7: an accelerated program like our academy that I want to

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Speaker 7: say that the NFL hijacked. They took my deal, but

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Speaker 7: they took a bunch of gms and they took them

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Speaker 7: to the owners meetings and had minorities that that would

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Speaker 7: hang around the owners and have a cocktail and get

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Speaker 7: to know each other. And through that he met the

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Speaker 7: owner of the Titans and they've hit it off and

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Speaker 7: they connected kind of like you know, I've ran into you,

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Speaker 7: say come on, Kerry, put me on your show. Connected,

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Speaker 7: I'm here now, you got it done. That's the connection.

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Speaker 7: And so getting to know people and familiarity is why

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Speaker 7: he was hired, because that's it. They saw you outside

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Speaker 7: as just you know, a guy on TV. They got

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Speaker 7: to know you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I you know, I really admire what you're doing,

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Speaker 5: and I do.

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Speaker 7: I admire what you're doing. And you know what, you

704
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 7: came on my show before everybody was doing podcasts. I

705
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 7: did that Late Night with Locks, Instagram Live.

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Speaker 5: You did Pandemic as you put it over.

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Speaker 9: The side of Roags you was driving from Vegas.

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Speaker 7: I think, but I'm gravitating and I'm on the back

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Speaker 7: nine of my coaching career, and I'm gonna slide over

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Speaker 7: to your side of things eventually help me out.

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm trying to learn this media game.

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Speaker 4: I will. I think you're doing just fine and you're

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Speaker 4: a great interview. I really do wish you the best

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Speaker 4: of luck, and it's because of you we're able to

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Speaker 4: see a difference, uh, the difference that I think we

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Speaker 4: all deserve. We want to we want our our our

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Speaker 4: our places of work, the places that we go and

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Speaker 4: visit and watch to look very much like the diverse

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Speaker 4: world in which we live in.

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate all that you're doing. Good luck.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to make it next week. Please do

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Speaker 4: because you're honoring my hill. I'm gonna try to I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna try to award well. We're gonna try to make

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Speaker 4: that happen. And this was an impromptu Naked interview, but

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Speaker 4: it was great. And I appreciate you, Coach Lucks, because

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Speaker 4: you've been nothing but good to me. You really have.

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Speaker 9: Well, let me go put some clothes on.

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Speaker 5: On this podcast. His knees out. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, thank you so much for listening to this

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl edition of Naked. We are in Vegas having

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Speaker 4: a wonderful time. I know everyone thinks it's all about

734
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Speaker 4: the parties, but it is also about the work, the

735
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: work at hand to make sure that our voices are

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Speaker 4: still heard even when we are still trying to celebrate

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Speaker 4: and just enjoy a good game, making sure that we're

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Speaker 4: representing the culture. And it's also important that we're making

739
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Speaker 4: sure that you can see us, see what we feel,

740
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Speaker 4: see what we need, see how we actually bring a

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Speaker 4: certain type of lifestyle to this sport here called football.

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Speaker 4: I would like to just take a few moments to

743
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Speaker 4: thank everybody and I heard who helped make this possible.

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Speaker 4: I was a little late arriving to Las Vegas because

745
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Speaker 4: I missed my flight.

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Speaker 5: No surprise there.

747
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Speaker 4: However, I want to thank everybody at our iHeart for

748
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Speaker 4: helping out. Everybody on Team Naked, everybody at Black Effect.

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Speaker 4: It really was a team effort. They coordinated with me,

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Speaker 4: they stayed on top of me. I'm always all over

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Speaker 4: the place, but they gave me the opportunity, and so

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you problem when you have so many different jobs.

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Speaker 4: But I said this to you at the top of

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Speaker 4: the podcast that you probably already know by listening to

755
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Speaker 4: this who won the Super Bowl? When this airs, the

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Speaker 4: winner of the Super Bowl will have already taken home

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Speaker 4: that Bence Lombardi Trophy. But I'm gonna make a wager here, guys,

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Speaker 4: and you can tell me if I'm wrong. I really

759
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Speaker 4: do believe, I really do believe that forty nine ers

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Speaker 4: are gonna win. I really do believe it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a shootout. I really do believe Brock Purdy is going

762
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Speaker 4: to really make a name for himself.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be special. Hopefully I am right.

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Speaker 4: When I listen back to this podcast when it drops

765
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Speaker 4: on Monday, I'll tell you that I'm arguably, I'm arguably

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Speaker 4: gonna bet that I'm right right. That's the only thing

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Speaker 4: that can happen. I know there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: Chiefs fans in the house. You guys love you some

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and heaven of for a bid, let me

770
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Speaker 4: not talk about Travis and Taylor. I know you guys

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Speaker 4: want that to happen, but and I know many of

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Speaker 4: you think it's scripted that the Chiefs will win because

773
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Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift. I'm not even getting into that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm not getting into any of those conspiracy theories. I'm

775
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Speaker 4: giving it to the Niners. I have to rematch of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, and these folks are going head to head,

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Speaker 4: and I think Brock party and then will come out

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Speaker 4: victorious because of all the weapons that he has. I

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Speaker 4: also will add I may just be here for the

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Speaker 4: usher concert. I may just be here for the Usher concert, y'all.

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Speaker 4: I have an opportunity to listen to his album. Coming

782
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Speaker 4: Home was a listening party that he threw while he

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Speaker 4: was here. I had an opportunity to sit and talk

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Speaker 4: with Usher, and I was just like, Wow, He's never

785
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Speaker 4: not been the one meaning, He's always had bangers, He's

786
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Speaker 4: always had really good music. He's always been a great performer.

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Speaker 4: I don't ever think there was a time in his

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Speaker 4: career and we were like, Oh, Usher's whag. I just

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Speaker 4: maybe perhaps I don't remember. He's just he's been on

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Speaker 4: a nice coast. It's been a nice not even a coast,

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Speaker 4: it's been a nice ride for his career. And right

792
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 4: now he's he's putting his foot on the gas and

793
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Speaker 4: what he is doing is really special. His album is special.

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Speaker 4: I can gear wrong, Tee. Even though I haven't seen

795
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Speaker 4: the performance, the performance will be special. I know there'll

796
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Speaker 4: be some special guest. I think it's gonna be nice.

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna bring a little Atlanta to Las

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Speaker 4: Vegas and for the world to see. We'll see how

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Speaker 4: that all pans out as well. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 4: to this edition. Super Bowl Edition of naked,