WEBVTT - What is an Ig Nobel Prize?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark. With me is always Charles W. Chuck Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>You sound like you're smiling big as you are. This

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<v Speaker 1>is stuff you should know. Of course I'm smiling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why not. We're in the We're happy chairs, Chuck. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like August mid late August? August right mid August.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what that means, don't you. It means

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<v Speaker 1>as hot as hades, and it is. It's gross, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps, it keeps raining just long enough to soak

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and then boom the sun comes out and

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<v Speaker 1>it's muggy. Yeah, awful. Yeah, it's I actually spoken to

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<v Speaker 1>people who have lived in New Orleans and they say

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<v Speaker 1>that it is as bad as New Orleans. He's really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it, Thank you, Al Gore. Stupid global warming,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what you were going to talk about anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I just totally sidetracked. You didn't, I yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>went with it. This is my way. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>August mean? August means that we are to know one

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<v Speaker 1>month and change away from the ignoble Awards. Right, not

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<v Speaker 1>to be confused with the Darwin Awards. No, which, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people sent us when we did that spontaneous

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<v Speaker 1>human combustion? Sent us that Darwin Award clip of that

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<v Speaker 1>that Indian man on top of the train, Yeah, getting electrocuted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very distressing, it is. And only about half

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<v Speaker 1>of those said be warned what you're about to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>The others were like, check this out, Kentucky Fried dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>normally like I don't like watching people die, but that one,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I thought it was kind of interesting, distressing. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So was he a dar Win Award winner? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember what four, but he was definitely an award winner.

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<v Speaker 1>The Darwin Awards are a different deal. Those those people

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<v Speaker 1>are generally chided for stupidity and the IG Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>winners are not made fun of. Plus, the Ignoble Awards

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<v Speaker 1>actually recognize honest to goodness, genuine scientific research, left of

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<v Speaker 1>center scientific research a little bit, but scientific research nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Ignoble Awards are coming up. As I said

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<v Speaker 1>October one, they're actually going to have a live webcast

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<v Speaker 1>this year, really, yeah, beginning at seven fifteen Eastern Standard time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I imagine you'll be able to find the webcast

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<v Speaker 1>or at least a link to it on Improbable research

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Right. Well, NPR every year broadcasts at um

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday after Thanksgiving. This year it's the day before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, so we'll look at you. Yeah, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to wait and you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>it live as it happens, yeah, Friday November, the day

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<v Speaker 1>after Thanksgiving. So what are these, dude? We should go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and tell people it's a riff on two things

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<v Speaker 1>on the Nobel Prize and the word ignoble, which means

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<v Speaker 1>of low character or inferior quality. Right, And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Mark Abrams, the guy who is the

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<v Speaker 1>editor of Improbable Research, which is a scientific humor magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a website. Um, he kind of does a

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<v Speaker 1>little fancy footwork here there. What do you mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he says that they're they're not. Yeah, He's like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not making fun of people, but we're making fun of people.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of the Ignoble Prize, Right, he's saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually the too spark curiosity and science, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're celebrating research that shouldn't be replicated or reproduced. He's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all over the place. He wants to have

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<v Speaker 1>his cake and eat it too. A little bit he does,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy, how he does he? Ever, since I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've done, They've handed out Ignoble prizes for all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and uh, it's I like it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun, sure, and most people do take it lightheartedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very famous case that I can go

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<v Speaker 1>into later on that someone who did not take it

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<v Speaker 1>very lightheartedly. But it's meant to be very humorous. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at some of the the award winners

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<v Speaker 1>every year, you can see why. So each year they

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<v Speaker 1>give a prize out for in ten different categories, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you let me go through those might as well. Those categories,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh are nutrition, peace, archaeology, biology, medicine, cognitive science, economics, physics, chemistry,

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<v Speaker 1>and literature. And this, like I said, this is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually legitimate research. Sometimes they're given out to

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<v Speaker 1>patent holders, but a lot of times also if you've

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<v Speaker 1>had a study published in a legitimate journal, you can

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're a candidate. You can be a candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they get like five thousand nominations every year

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<v Speaker 1>and they sort through all of them. Right, you can

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<v Speaker 1>nominate yourself, right, and the study what the study doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to have been done in the year that the

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<v Speaker 1>prizes are given out. Yeah. Actually, chuck um back in

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<v Speaker 1>some researchers UM at right Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>We're working on a project that UM they entitled Harassing, Annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>and bad guy identifying chemicals, right, and they saw seven

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<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars for research grants. Is a real deal,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I've actually seen that the documents from the

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force UM and basically what they were coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with was a non lethal project of UM, you know

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals that one of them was her basically a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>that would they would launch behind enemy lines and it

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<v Speaker 1>would arouse the ire of uh stinging insects in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>so they go and attack the the enemy. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>was to uh create I think chronic or prolonged halitosis

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<v Speaker 1>among enemy soldiers so they couldn't stand to be around

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<v Speaker 1>one another. And then there was the one that got

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<v Speaker 1>the Ignobell, the infamous gay bomb. Yes, it says that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is under the category I'm sorry category three chemicals

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals that affect human behavior, so that discipline and morale

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<v Speaker 1>in enemy units is adversely affected. One distasteful but completely

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<v Speaker 1>non lethal example would be strong effrodgiacs, especially if the

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<v Speaker 1>chemical also caused homosexual behavior. So yeah, the the the

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force was working on a gay bomb. How much

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<v Speaker 1>money did they put towards this? Well, hold on it

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<v Speaker 1>one the two thousand and seven Ignobell Peace Prize, the

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<v Speaker 1>prize how much money seven point five million, and that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know what exactly what exactly came of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And the Air Force didn't take kindly to this, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of they did not show up to receive

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<v Speaker 1>the award, right, I don't think they ever had a

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<v Speaker 1>statement to the contrary that they were upset, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't show up and say hey, thanks. This whole

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<v Speaker 1>gabon thing didn't work out, but thanks thanks for the props.

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<v Speaker 1>Who judges these things? Actually, what's crazy is that some

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Award winners, like real Nobel Award winners, serve on

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<v Speaker 1>the Board of Governors to decide who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>get an ignoble prize? Right Ena, who also has the

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<v Speaker 1>professor from Gilkins Island? No, yeah, holy Castle Johnson served

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<v Speaker 1>one year. Apparently they do that. They get celebrities and

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<v Speaker 1>certain actors and athletes to be on the panel. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said regular street Joe's your average Joe off the street.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll put them on the panel to Yeah. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>held at Harvard. Yeah, what used to be an m

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<v Speaker 1>I t announced at Harvard. They have a big ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>every year. And I think the prize laureates are able

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<v Speaker 1>to give a one minute acceptance speeches. All yeah. They

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<v Speaker 1>have little miss Hutie Poo who has to who basically

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<v Speaker 1>shouts them off stage when they start exceeding their minute. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the criteria for little miss cutie Pooh is that

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<v Speaker 1>she must be an adorable eight year old with ice

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<v Speaker 1>water in her veins and from the Boston area. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually looking for applicants right now. So yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening in Boston and you're an eight year old terror, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to apply with a shrill voice. Bring it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The the award itself, Josh, is different every year, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool. They have different designs each year,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them was the was a cereal box

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<v Speaker 1>labeled Ignoble ohs. And that actually, uh kind of leads

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<v Speaker 1>as a nice segue into the discussion about this one

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<v Speaker 1>guy who very famously uh derided the Ignoble Awards as

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<v Speaker 1>stifling science or at the very least, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>making fun of it, serious scientific, you're not happy about it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob May, it was. Bob May was the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Science Ministry uh in for the UK. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty big cheese. I imagine you could put him

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<v Speaker 1>on par with maybe the Surgeon General or the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the um uh National Science Foundation here um. And

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<v Speaker 1>he came out and he wrote a letter to Improbable Research,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also had one published in Nature where he

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<v Speaker 1>just railed on the Ignoble organizers and improbable research. He

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<v Speaker 1>said not to ever award another one to anyone from England. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of like, hey, thanks the people

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<v Speaker 1>who were getting the award that year had been doing research.

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<v Speaker 1>They were from the University of East Anglia, who I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say is a university that produces some really

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining studies. Um, but this one was the research into

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<v Speaker 1>the effects or what makes soggy serial or serial saggy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good research, right, Well, he don't give it to

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<v Speaker 1>these people, don't ever give it to another British scientist again.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually he thought, you know he was. He had

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<v Speaker 1>just put the final stamp of disapproval on it. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>created this huge outcry in the scientific community about how

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<v Speaker 1>stuffy the British scientific and certainly not doing very much

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<v Speaker 1>to quelle. No, he wasn't. And in two thousand his

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<v Speaker 1>successor actually went no. Two thousand two actually went to

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<v Speaker 1>the ig Nobel Awards to basically show that hey, great

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<v Speaker 1>Britain's you know back on board, baby, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>science the more you can um laugh at certain things

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<v Speaker 1>and have fun with it the better, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to turn other people onto science. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn them off by thinking that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're also stuffying uptight that we can't laugh at ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gave me yet another segwe speaking of turning

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<v Speaker 1>people on um. The two thousand Nobel ig Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>winner for Medicine was a guy named Dr Peck van Andel.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a real name, Yes it is, he's Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's Dutch. Sounds like a pseudonym. He won

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand You you would think it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>He won the two thousand ig Nobel Prize for Medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh for making the first m ri I video of

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<v Speaker 1>human reproductive organs while they're engaged in the act of coitus.

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<v Speaker 1>And dude, yeah, if you came, I did, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is an mri I porner. It's crazy. So basically he

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<v Speaker 1>had he had two people performing intercourse inside an MRI

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<v Speaker 1>machine for this, and uh, yeah, he has a video

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<v Speaker 1>of it and it's up on YouTube. Actually it's an

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<v Speaker 1>improbable research number one nineteen, I believe. And I should

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<v Speaker 1>probably say if you are listening, you're watching, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this at work and you're about to open

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<v Speaker 1>another tab, you might want to take it easy, wait

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<v Speaker 1>till you get home. And if you're twelve, don't watch

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<v Speaker 1>this yet, at least don't tell your parents that it

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<v Speaker 1>was Josh and Chuck who told you about this? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we talk about some more of these prizes? Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time. I think Robert Lamb, who wrote this awesome

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<v Speaker 1>piece of work, probably had a lot of fun with

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<v Speaker 1>this one. He wrote that. Um. In two thousand three,

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<v Speaker 1>Keys W. Mulliker did a study on the existence of

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<v Speaker 1>homosexual necrophiliac ducks. And this is all real. Yeah it

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<v Speaker 1>actually the study led to dead duck Day in the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 1>Now really, well, it's funny you should say the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was one in New Zealand about exploding pants

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<v Speaker 1>among New Zealand farmers in the nine thirties. Someone studied

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Yeah, what was up with that? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. I didn't I didn't see the final outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I I went on the improbable research and found some

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<v Speaker 1>other winner's chuck. Um. There's some pretty wacky stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very least, I mean, you have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. When somebody undertakes this this a study, they're

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<v Speaker 1>very serious about it. They want to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of it. And obviously if you look at it

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<v Speaker 1>like the gay bomb, they didn't say the gay bomb. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, arousing steam bees and there's legitimate research associated

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<v Speaker 1>with it's the gay bomb. They're picking out the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>angle of looking at this, but there is some legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>There is very much legitimate research put into this, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to imagine it's funding for this research. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>said Okay, yeah, go check out necrophiliac homosexual ducks and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's published. Yeah, usually in a medical journal. I

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<v Speaker 1>have one from last year that was pretty funny in

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<v Speaker 1>the field of chemistry. Um Sherry and Pierre Joseph Hill

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<v Speaker 1>and Deborah Anderson discovered that coca cola is an effective

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<v Speaker 1>spermicide and see why Hong c c she pe Wu

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<v Speaker 1>and b and Chiang accidentally proved that it is not

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<v Speaker 1>an effective spermacide in the same year. So they were

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<v Speaker 1>both award the award for chemistry, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny, and they all showed up to receive it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the studies. Um. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>last year, Chuck that uh Ivan are Schwab and Philip

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<v Speaker 1>are A may Um won the prize for ornithology. What

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<v Speaker 1>was that they researched Why woodpeckers don't get headaches really

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<v Speaker 1>or why they give people headaches is what I would

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<v Speaker 1>follow up with No, uh, last year and nutrition. This

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<v Speaker 1>one I thought was pretty funny. Brian Wantsink investigated people's

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<v Speaker 1>appetite for mindless eating, and his trick was he had

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<v Speaker 1>a self refilling bowl of soup in front of them

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't realize was constantly refilling itself. He would

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<v Speaker 1>study if they would just keep on eating and eating

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<v Speaker 1>without thinking about it. Awesome. I could go for a

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<v Speaker 1>self refilling bowl of soup. Really yeah, depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>soup loaded baked potato definitely. Um, I've got one. You're ready. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ignoble Prize for Mathematics in a two thousand in

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<v Speaker 1>seven UM went to nick's Vence Venson and Piers Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>of the Australian Commonwealth Scientific and Research Organization. They calculated

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<v Speaker 1>the number of photographs you have to take to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody in a group photo will have their eyes closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have the stat No? I don't, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you want the stat you can read the June two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six issue of Velocity and the articles called

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<v Speaker 1>blink free Photos Guaranteed. I've got one for you too.

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<v Speaker 1>We could do this all day, we could, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one is actually could be real have real applications in aviation.

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<v Speaker 1>They discovered that hamsters recover from jet lag more quickly

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<v Speaker 1>when given viagra, So there might be something to that

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<v Speaker 1>jet lags, you know, a problem for some people, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something in the viagra could actually help humans because

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<v Speaker 1>rats and hamsters and humans all kind of are wired

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<v Speaker 1>the same. Well. I don't know if it's groundbaracking research

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<v Speaker 1>as much as it is, you know, just proving conventional wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, do you think so with viagra? Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows viagra? Here's jet lagging rodents? Okay, sorry, you got

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<v Speaker 1>another one? I do? Can you tell by the look

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<v Speaker 1>on my face? Yeah, you were gasping. Two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the Medicine Prize went to some researchers from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Tennessee College of Medicine. They did some research into

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<v Speaker 1>terminating hiccups by digital rectal massage and digital in this case. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was out. You know, that's funny. I read that earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how can you get a digital rectal massage?

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking digitizing, all right, I wasn't thinking fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Do you got any more you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do another couple. Actually there was one what the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who studied strippers and found that strippers get more

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<v Speaker 1>tips when they're ovulating. Yeah, they won the Economics Prize

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I thought that was pretty pretty interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>in essence, it's a lot of fun. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of poking fun, but it is some legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>research going on, and I just think it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. And if you're interested in checking it out out,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, the ig Noo Bell Prizes are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on there's gonna be a live webcast at seven

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen Eastern on October one if you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>out who ends up being miss Cutie Poo for two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine in a wig, eight year old, steely cold. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could hear it. Yeah, so Chuck. I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>it right. If you want to read this, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you said, Robert Lamb wrote a great article.

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<v Speaker 1>I agreed. I think this article has one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best introductions on the site. It's a good one. You

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<v Speaker 1>can find that by typing in EIGG and then space

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<v Speaker 1>and Nobel on the handy search bar on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. And since I said that, that means

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<v Speaker 1>my friends that it is time for listener may all. Yes, indeed, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna call this answer to our query about

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest badass of World War two. Yes, Chuck, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about this one. We got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>respond section. We called it, if you remember correctly, just

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<v Speaker 1>to recap, we did a thing on jaff any stragglers. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the way back machine and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>what we said in contrast to u COI was the

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<v Speaker 1>baddest dude in World War two. Probably as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I invite our listeners to email us by

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who can who want, any single individual who can

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<v Speaker 1>top the man we're about to talk about as in badness. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and Josh will personally email you back and

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<v Speaker 1>debate you. And there it is. So. We we posited

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<v Speaker 1>the Onada was one of the biggest uh rambos of

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<v Speaker 1>the war, and we challenge people sendance went bad and

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<v Speaker 1>people did. Yeah, we got a lot of responses. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was one that had overwhelming uh support. There

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<v Speaker 1>was there are actually a couple we want to give

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<v Speaker 1>a special uh uh. I guess you would call it

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<v Speaker 1>a runner up to Audie Murphy. Yeah, famous American actor

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<v Speaker 1>and soldier. Yeah, baby face like a buck. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I started shooting at him. He went crazy and he

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome and he was super bad. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a little attention because he was a real

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<v Speaker 1>small guy and he was American, and he was American.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like such a chairb base like people think, wow, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's extra bad because he was tough and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little We got some boats. There was some British guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty bad. Another couple of Japanese dudes. But

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<v Speaker 1>wait what you got another one? But we have a winner, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>clear winner. This guy is so bad. This is uh

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<v Speaker 1>semo hia Hija. The nickname for him was white Death. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell this guy's story please? All right? So

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<v Speaker 1>he was a Finnish farmer and he um was just

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<v Speaker 1>basically doing his own thing when the Russians invaded Finland

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<v Speaker 1>the Winter War. Yes, he didn't like this one bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically he took a standard bolt action rifle without

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<v Speaker 1>a sight. Yeah, no no head site, no scope, no

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<v Speaker 1>scope sorry yeah uh and went out into the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>the sub arctic woods of Finland, where it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>about forty degrees below fahrenheight and just basically sat up

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<v Speaker 1>in trees or in blinds and waited. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait very long. Over the course of one year,

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<v Speaker 1>just using this old rifle, he killed five hundred Russians,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and five as a sniper. As a sniper,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people. When the Russians were finally

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<v Speaker 1>alerted that there was one sniper out there there was

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<v Speaker 1>causing them all these problems, they sent detachments with the

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<v Speaker 1>specific mission of going to kill him. Find the White Death. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when he got the name the White Death. So

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<v Speaker 1>they send, they send detachment after detachment out and he

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<v Speaker 1>just murders every single one of them too. He killed

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred people with a submachine gun, so that would,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess would be like the close up fight. So

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and five seven five confirmed kills in a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally somebody gets close enough to him to shoot him

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<v Speaker 1>in the face with an explode name pullet, and it

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<v Speaker 1>still didn't kill him. Yep, he was shot in the jaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Rumor has it that he shot the other sniper before

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<v Speaker 1>losing consciousness, So the guy that just shot him before

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<v Speaker 1>he passed out, he killed him immediate retribution. And the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who wrote in with the best email says, unofficially

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<v Speaker 1>he had over eight hundred kills and this was an

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<v Speaker 1>under one hundred days. It was less than a year. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said it was just a killing machine. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That is at least five kills per day

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<v Speaker 1>plus two hundred kills with the World War two submachine gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And he still didn't die. You know, he lost consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>and woke up apparently the day World War two ended. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lived until So I think the White Death

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna vote for him. Oh, hands down. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest badass of World War Two. Yeah, although some

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to write in and say, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was sniper stuff and Autie Murphy fought people with

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<v Speaker 1>like a knife. And I gotta tell you, Autie Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>is to me a very close second. But the White Death,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, alone forty degree, he's below fahrenheight just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out there sniping Russians. I mean, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wins the award in my opinion. He does.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to give credit where credit is due here.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to thank carson Um from Toronto. Actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. I'm making a joke. He's actually from Edmonton

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<v Speaker 1>and he said please don't say him from Toronto. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also said something about eating heaven euros and mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>that so his friends would know it's really him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Carson, we've done so. So Carson from Edmonton, Timman

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City, Devon from Georgia, and Adrian all

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in with White Death and I think they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>more stuff I left you off. Yeah, I know they're definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>don't snipe me. And also there's a really cool uh

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<v Speaker 1>article craft dot com about Rambo or basically actual life

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers who Rambo looked like something or other. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that was worth reading. And if you want to send

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