Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa Both part Welcome Back
Speaker 1: to the Truth with Lisa Booth. President Trump called it
Speaker 1: the Laptop from Hell. It was right before the election.
Speaker 1: The New York Post reported about emails from Hunter Biden's laptop.
Speaker 1: Hunter dropped the laptop off at a Delaware computer shop
Speaker 1: for repair in April of two nineteen. He never picked
Speaker 1: it up. He never picked it up. The FBI later
Speaker 1: sees the laptop last year through grand jury subpoena dating
Speaker 1: back to December two thousand nineteen. So, if you remember
Speaker 1: at the time, right before the election, big tech prevented
Speaker 1: people from sharing The New York Post reporting sharing this
Speaker 1: information about Hunter Biden's emails right before an election his
Speaker 1: dad was running for president. The media called it disinformation,
Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. Former Intel officers and officials also tried to downplay.
Speaker 1: They said it was Russian disinformation. So what was on it?
Speaker 1: What were they trying to hide? What were they trying
Speaker 1: to cover up. I'm discussing all of this today with
Speaker 1: the woman who literally wrote the book on it, Miranda Divine.
Speaker 1: She's a writer for The New York Post, She's a
Speaker 1: Fox News contributor, and she is the author of the
Speaker 1: book Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, Big Tech, and the
Speaker 1: dirty secrets the President tried to hide. That's what we're
Speaker 1: talking about this week. Stay tuned. I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: this episode. Miranda Divine New York Post. Anytime I see
Speaker 1: her on Fox News, always stop to listen to what
Speaker 1: she has to say. She's so smart, and she wrote
Speaker 1: this new book, The Laptop from Hell, about Hunter Biden's
Speaker 1: emails which everyone ignored, and now she wrote the book
Speaker 1: on it. Miranda, thanks so much for joining the show.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this conversation. It's such a pleasure, Lisa,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. You know, so, Miranda, let's
Speaker 1: start at the beginning. So so, Hunter Biden, he draw
Speaker 1: opped off his laptop at a Delaware computer store and
Speaker 1: we repaired. I think it was back in April two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. He never went to go pick at back up.
Speaker 1: What happened from there? Well, the laptop repair shop owner,
Speaker 1: a guy called John Paul mac Isaac, who really is
Speaker 1: a hero of an American hero. Um. He sat on
Speaker 1: it for a while, but then he started watching the
Speaker 1: sort of impeachment proceedings or the beginnings of them, and
Speaker 1: recognized as some of the names on the laptops, such
Speaker 1: as Barrhythma, that corrupt energy company that was paying Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden Etty three thousand dollars a month, and he thought, well,
Speaker 1: look what's on this laptop maybe actually quite explosive. It
Speaker 1: was now his property because after Hunter had failed to
Speaker 1: pick it up and pay his bill after three months.
Speaker 1: That's what the law said. So he called the FBI,
Speaker 1: and eventually the FBI in December of nineteen came to
Speaker 1: pick it up and then he heard nothing more. Um,
Speaker 1: he had the contents of the laptop on his computer,
Speaker 1: surdit in his shop, and as the impeachment proceedings wore on,
Speaker 1: he thought, I really need to tell somebody in the
Speaker 1: Republican Party that there's information that's relevant to what is
Speaker 1: happening to President Trump on this laptop belonging to Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1: So he started contacting various Republicans like Jim Jordan or
Speaker 1: various congressmen that he thought would be useful, and none
Speaker 1: of them returned his emails. So he one night saw
Speaker 1: Rudy Juliani, who was then President Trump's lawyer. He saw
Speaker 1: him on Fox News, and I'll try him. So he
Speaker 1: found an email, sent an email explaining what he had,
Speaker 1: and Rudy Juliani's lawyer, Bob cost Gello, picked up the
Speaker 1: email and unlike everybody else, recognized that this was an
Speaker 1: authentic piece of information that could help. So he got
Speaker 1: the hard drive, which was a copy of the laptop
Speaker 1: Federate FedEx to his home in New York, and the
Speaker 1: rest of history. He and Rudy went through it forensically,
Speaker 1: both of them, you know, former prosecutors understand how to
Speaker 1: find crimes, how to sift through information forensically. Um, and
Speaker 1: what they saw really blew their minds. They realized that
Speaker 1: this was a big story, and they spent several weeks
Speaker 1: trying to authenticate the information, verifying that this was legitimate
Speaker 1: and uh. And then late one night, UM, I think
Speaker 1: that almost given up this sort of idea of getting
Speaker 1: it out into the public. It was three weeks before
Speaker 1: the before the election, and they had tried various ways
Speaker 1: of getting it out into the media, and then one night,
Speaker 1: I think there's a last teach effort. Bob Costello just
Speaker 1: sent me a text message with a whole lot of
Speaker 1: photos and information from the laptop. And you know, I've
Speaker 1: spent quite a few hours talking to human Rudy alerted
Speaker 1: my news paper and the rest of history. And so
Speaker 1: I know the the FBI opened an investigation and a
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden uh in two thousand nineteen on suspicion of
Speaker 1: money uttering right, yes, um, yes, money laundering. But there
Speaker 1: are a couple of different investigations. Yes, go through the
Speaker 1: investigations if you don't mind, And then were any of
Speaker 1: those connected to what was found on the lab type do? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them are connected. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, all we know is that there are a
Speaker 1: number of investigations into Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim Biden,
Speaker 1: who is Joe Biden's younger brother, who was involved in
Speaker 1: this influenced pedaling scheme and he Um. Basically, uh, there
Speaker 1: is money laundering allegations, there's tax evasion, and there's also
Speaker 1: a question over um, you know, foreign dealings, and potentially
Speaker 1: I think that would be whether or not there was
Speaker 1: foreign agent registration violations SARAH violations which caught up quite
Speaker 1: a few people in the Trump um or so they're
Speaker 1: not they're serious allegations, but you know, we knew nothing
Speaker 1: about that before the election. It was only after the
Speaker 1: election that Hunter Biden put out a statement on his
Speaker 1: father's president elect letterhead saying that the you know, he
Speaker 1: was under investigation for tax issues. So since Aden, we
Speaker 1: found out for a bit more than that. But who
Speaker 1: knows where that will go. Certainly the FBI has the
Speaker 1: laptop and there is a lot of evidence that if
Speaker 1: they care to look at it, and would be very
Speaker 1: useful to any investigation. It sounded like you said Trump orbit.
Speaker 1: Did you mean Trump orbit or Biden orbit? The Trump orbit?
Speaker 1: Because there were various people who, like I think Paul
Speaker 1: Manafort was one of them, who were in trouble and
Speaker 1: charged with these foreign agent registration violations. Not registering as
Speaker 1: a foreign agent if you are helping someone, you know,
Speaker 1: someone overseas a finer to be the government what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's what, But there's also like such an unequal
Speaker 1: application of it. It seems to only come into play
Speaker 1: when there's politics involved. But you know, it's like so
Speaker 1: many people are guilty of it, but you know that
Speaker 1: goes under the radar. So the New York Post first
Speaker 1: ran the story. I believe it was October obviously, right
Speaker 1: before the election. I mean, there was this wide scale
Speaker 1: effort to discredit the post work. Did that surprise you
Speaker 1: that there was such an effort to to discredit that
Speaker 1: initial story. What surprised us was that big dick rating.
Speaker 1: We expected that the New York Times, from the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: and although those media that were you know, carrying water
Speaker 1: for Joe Biden, that were virulently anti Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: and wants him to lose the election, we weren't surprised
Speaker 1: that would ignore and kind of sneer it out reporting.
Speaker 1: But what was really shocking was when Facebook and Twitter
Speaker 1: wad in and decided to enter our story. Twitter lockdown
Speaker 1: account New York Posts account for two weeks until a
Speaker 1: few days before the election. You know, this is the
Speaker 1: oldest newspaper in America. It is the fourth largest by audience.
Speaker 1: So this was a serious violation, I guess of free
Speaker 1: press to to have these big tech oligopolies decide that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, within a couple of hours of the newspaper
Speaker 1: going of good story going live online, deciding that it
Speaker 1: was somehow suspect, Facebook said all, we're going to stop
Speaker 1: spreading it because of we're going to do a fact check,
Speaker 1: which they have never done. Because I know that they
Speaker 1: have not contacted the other recipients of the emails that
Speaker 1: we reported on, which is the first thing that you
Speaker 1: would do if you were fact checking. Um and and
Speaker 1: Twitter accused us of violating their hacking material hills policy.
Speaker 1: There was nothing hacked about the laptop, and they admitted that.
Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey admitted he was called before the Senate after
Speaker 1: the election and he said, oh, it was a mistake
Speaker 1: to shut down the New York Post and we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done it. And no, they didn't violate our hacked
Speaker 1: materials policy because there were nothing hacked about it. But
Speaker 1: then at the sort of that, the follow up to that,
Speaker 1: which was really the killer blow to the story getting
Speaker 1: out into one half of America, was when John Brennan,
Speaker 1: the former CIA director, and fifty other former intelligence or
Speaker 1: former defense high officials that came up with this really
Speaker 1: scoleless letter that they gave to Politico which claimed that
Speaker 1: the laptop was Russian disinformation in their expert opinion, having
Speaker 1: not looked at the laptop. They admit that in a
Speaker 1: paragraph deep in the letter they haven't seen the laptop.
Speaker 1: They really can't prove the evidence, but they just decided
Speaker 1: that it was Russian disinformation. And had all the hallmarks
Speaker 1: of that anyway, and um, you know, that was really
Speaker 1: a propaganda intervention, and it was very useful to Joe
Speaker 1: Biden because the one thing, it was an excuse for
Speaker 1: the rest of the media not to cover the story,
Speaker 1: and for another, when Joe Biden went in a couple
Speaker 1: of days later to a debate against Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: of course President Trump decided to use the information in
Speaker 1: our stories too against Biden, and he said, they're saying
Speaker 1: you're a corrupt politician, Joe, what do you say about that?
Speaker 1: And Joe Biden then used the letter and he said,
Speaker 1: it's garbage what you're saying. Um, this, We've had the
Speaker 1: intelligence community, who's very eminent, people have had declared that
Speaker 1: this is Russian disinformation and you're the one who's corrupt.
Speaker 1: So it was brilliant. I mean, it worked for him
Speaker 1: so well in that debate because that was the last
Speaker 1: that was spoken about the really damaging information that we
Speaker 1: had published, which was an email from the laptop, which
Speaker 1: proved well, it didn't prove, but it indicated at that point,
Speaker 1: now we have proof, but it indicated that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: had met with Hunter Biden's Ukrainian business partner his benefactor
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. When he was vice president, and
Speaker 1: this at least required an explanation from Joe Biden about
Speaker 1: you know, why he met with this person? Did he
Speaker 1: meet with this person? Um? And and you know, did
Speaker 1: he lie to the American people before the election when
Speaker 1: he said he knew nothing about his son Hunter's overseas
Speaker 1: business dealings. We know that that's not true now well,
Speaker 1: and now Hunter Biden's attorney so that the meeting did
Speaker 1: not happen. Do we know if I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it's sort of you know, irrelevant if he
Speaker 1: was going to meet with them anyways, But do we
Speaker 1: know if the meeting had happened or or what ended
Speaker 1: up resulting with that? Yes, we do know the meeting happened.
Speaker 1: And even though Joe Biden's campaign said it did not, um,
Speaker 1: it did. And we have evidence from the laptop of
Speaker 1: emails from Hunter Biden to business partners UM explaining you know,
Speaker 1: the guest bliss for this dinner that he organized at
Speaker 1: Kafe Milano in Georgetown specifically to introduce his father to
Speaker 1: his business associates from Russia, from Kazakhstan and from Ukraine.
Speaker 1: UH and Um the guests. Lift Um promises to people
Speaker 1: in emails to guess that his father would be there,
Speaker 1: UM and then follow up thank you's from people who
Speaker 1: were there, UM saying thank you to Hunter. And one
Speaker 1: of those emails, as I said, was was the one
Speaker 1: we found. We didn't know all the rest of it
Speaker 1: when we published that story before the election, but all
Speaker 1: everything that we've found since just buttresses um and affirmed
Speaker 1: that's original story. UM. And interestingly, although the White House
Speaker 1: never responded to any inquiries from me Um, the Washington
Speaker 1: Post decided to I published the story about the Cafe
Speaker 1: Milano dinner in the New Post in the summer and
Speaker 1: I think June or July, and and then the Washington
Speaker 1: Post decided to be ignored the story, that they would
Speaker 1: fact check my story. So they went to the White
Speaker 1: House and asked, you know, did Joe Barten go to
Speaker 1: this dinner? And they admitted, yes, he did. He did
Speaker 1: go to this dinner, but he only went very briefly,
Speaker 1: just popped in and it was not for any nefarious purposes. Sure, right,
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's very believable coming from someone who's
Speaker 1: a pathological liar such as Joe By right, you know,
Speaker 1: so what I find interesting is okay, So the timing
Speaker 1: of that email regarding Bresma was also interesting because this
Speaker 1: was less than a year before Joe Biden had the
Speaker 1: prosecutor fired who was actually invested the Ukrainian prosecutor fired,
Speaker 1: who was investigating Breeze Breza holdings, which of course Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden was on the board for Biden. UH put pressure
Speaker 1: on Ukraine threatening to withhold us AID unless they fired
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, what do we know, like, do
Speaker 1: we know how connected that firing or do we is
Speaker 1: there proof of correlation between Joe Biden making foreign policy
Speaker 1: decisions to either protect Hunter Biden or in his benefit,
Speaker 1: Well not directly, but what we do have is some
Speaker 1: very explasive emails from Um hunters Um. The reason the
Speaker 1: handler A G. Called begin poofy Um acquiring for the
Speaker 1: eighty three thousand dollars a month that Hunter was getting
Speaker 1: UM certain things to be done, such as important people
Speaker 1: say over to Ukraine UM to sing the praises of
Speaker 1: Barisma UM and you know, basically UM to to get
Speaker 1: Hunter and his partner Devon Archer Um to pull their strings,
Speaker 1: used their contacts to UM. You know, polish the reputation
Speaker 1: of Barisma and its owner, a guy called Nikolaichevski, who
Speaker 1: was under investigation. Now, Um, just as Hunter and Devon
Speaker 1: Archer joined the Barisma board with no you know, no
Speaker 1: qualifications for it. Um, the owner of Barisma was under
Speaker 1: serious investigation. I mean the British UM had had launched
Speaker 1: investigation in conjunction with the FBI. This was an inter
Speaker 1: Pole international investigation. UM. Lotchevsky's bank accounts with millions of
Speaker 1: dollars in them, had been frozen in London. He was
Speaker 1: in trouble and the Ukrainian anti corruption authorities also were
Speaker 1: hard him. So UM that was you know why he
Speaker 1: hired the son of the vice president to join his board,
Speaker 1: because he was trying to get the authorities off his back.
Speaker 1: And so these explicit emails map out what's expected, what's required. Um.
Speaker 1: We don't know whether Hunter did, uh you know all
Speaker 1: of that. We do know that that the most important
Speaker 1: thing that was done for Barisma was that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: pushed President Poroshenko to fire Victor Shokin, who was the
Speaker 1: chief prosecutor and he was the president was reluctant to
Speaker 1: do that. Um. There are there are phone calls recorded
Speaker 1: between him and Joe Biden, in which he resists that
Speaker 1: he says, well, there is no corruption. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: allegations around my prosecutor, and Joe Biden has gone out
Speaker 1: and he's told the world that that this prosecutor was
Speaker 1: corrupt and that the reason he had to be fired
Speaker 1: was because he was not prosecuting corruption in Ukraine, which
Speaker 1: was the topic of Joe Biden's speeches every time he
Speaker 1: went to Kiev, which was often he would go and
Speaker 1: he would make some airy speech talking about how corruption
Speaker 1: is a cancer to the soul of a democracy. And ironically,
Speaker 1: at the very time that he was pushing for this
Speaker 1: prosecutor to be fired, the prosecutor had an active investigation
Speaker 1: into Barisma and in fact, a few days beforehand had
Speaker 1: seized the property, maybe a few weeks beforehand, had seized
Speaker 1: the property of the Barisma owner in Kiev. He had
Speaker 1: seized plots of land, a couple of mansions, and his
Speaker 1: roles Roth Silver Phantom car. So um, he was actively
Speaker 1: going after Barisma. And also he has since told Ukrainian
Speaker 1: media hasn't got much coverage here, but he said that
Speaker 1: he was about to issue subpoenas for Hunter Biden and
Speaker 1: his partner, Devon Archer. So, um, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: media like the New York Times and The Washington Closed
Speaker 1: reported that there was no investigation at the time going
Speaker 1: into Parisma, which is what Joe Biden was telling everybody.
Speaker 1: They just reported that without doing any of their own investigations,
Speaker 1: which it's not hard to find. I mean, there were
Speaker 1: contemporaneous media reports in Ukraine and elsewhere in Europe saying
Speaker 1: reporting on the this raid into Jevsky's properties, the seizure
Speaker 1: of his assets, that was a big story. So um,
Speaker 1: I don't understand, you know, and then then there are
Speaker 1: documents which show that that happened as well. But I
Speaker 1: just don't understand why the media just swallowed Joe Biden's line. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, once you know that that's certainly circumstantial evidence
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was demanding the firing of the prosecutor
Speaker 1: who was investigating his son's boss. Basically, well, it also
Speaker 1: underscores how un serious the media is because all of
Speaker 1: this was blatantly staring at them in the face, including
Speaker 1: trying believing Joe Biden or not believing him. They probably
Speaker 1: knew he was lying, but at least pushing and you know,
Speaker 1: pushing and peddling this propaganda lies from the Bidens, because
Speaker 1: we when he said he didn't have any involvement with
Speaker 1: his son's business dealings. I mean there's literally photos of
Speaker 1: him when he took his son on a trip back
Speaker 1: when he was vice president to China shaking the hand
Speaker 1: of one of the business partners, and then lo and behold,
Speaker 1: a few days later, Hutter Biden gets this license approved
Speaker 1: in China that he had been trying to get approved
Speaker 1: for for one of his deals. So it's like there's
Speaker 1: been evidence all along that Joe Biden did have involvement
Speaker 1: and his son didn't know about his son's overseas business dealings.
Speaker 1: Yet the media continued to pedal this lie that was
Speaker 1: just so blatantly a lie, it's incredible. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were media on that trip with Joe Biden when he
Speaker 1: took Hunter on air force to to Beijing, when he
Speaker 1: went to meet President's using ping in the high ranking
Speaker 1: CCP officials. I mean, they're media there, um, and it
Speaker 1: just seemed that, um, you know, I guess you know,
Speaker 1: this wilful naivety or gullibility from the media when it
Speaker 1: came to Democrats. Um. You know, you see it with
Speaker 1: the swallowing of the steel dock here, which on its
Speaker 1: face was ridiculous. It was just like some lurid, you know,
Speaker 1: spy novel badly written. UM. But but they're quite happy
Speaker 1: to accept information that they are provided and not do
Speaker 1: any normal apply any of the normal skepticism that journalism
Speaker 1: teaches you about everything that you're given. Um, and uh,
Speaker 1: not not do any due diligence UM. And particularly that's
Speaker 1: egregious when you're not doing your due diligence on behalf
Speaker 1: of the American people on one of the two candidates
Speaker 1: the president. Um. They allowed Joe Biden to just get
Speaker 1: away Scott free um, pretending to be somebody that he wasn't.
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, I think part of
Speaker 1: the disillusionment of Biden voters over the last year since
Speaker 1: he's been president has has been driven by the fact
Speaker 1: that he's not the person they thought he was. The blunders,
Speaker 1: the sort of callousness about Afghanistan. Um. Just the way
Speaker 1: he comports himself is not does not accord with the
Speaker 1: image that was projected of who he was. And that
Speaker 1: is that is the media's fault, because there's no excuse.
Speaker 1: Pandemic is not an excuse. All this information was out there,
Speaker 1: we had published the tip of the iceberg. Um it
Speaker 1: was wrong of the media to cover up for him
Speaker 1: and there to blame for the predicament that America is
Speaker 1: in today. Well, no, I mean I I think Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is actually a terrible human being, is a pathological liar,
Speaker 1: and him and his entire family are corrupt, and he
Speaker 1: uses the losses that he has suffered, which of course
Speaker 1: we all have empathy for as a shield um and
Speaker 1: protection as you know, against being a terrible human being,
Speaker 1: which is what he is. And I think the big
Speaker 1: question for me is, you know, did he profit off
Speaker 1: of his son? And it's not just his son, it's
Speaker 1: his entire you know, family's business dealings. Did he profit
Speaker 1: off of it? Because one of the other big bombshells
Speaker 1: we all know and you know better than all, is
Speaker 1: that deal with China business arrangement with the Chinese company
Speaker 1: and members of the Biden family, including an equity split
Speaker 1: that was for Hunter and then ten percent for the
Speaker 1: big guy. We know Joe Biden was the big guy.
Speaker 1: Did he ever receive that cut? And are there other
Speaker 1: business deals that we know Joe Biden was at least
Speaker 1: supposed to profit off of or might have profited off of. Well,
Speaker 1: what we do know is there is evidence on the
Speaker 1: laptop of um uh you know, Hunted Biden and Joe
Speaker 1: Biden having their finances mingled so shaped by accounts shared
Speaker 1: debit cards. Also, um, there's some evidence that Hunter was
Speaker 1: paying bills for his father, just sort of regular household
Speaker 1: bills like maintenance and upkeep on Joe's Delaware mansion, things
Speaker 1: like painting and rebuilding a retaining wall, fixing some shutters, um,
Speaker 1: you know, replacing the air conditioning on a cottage on
Speaker 1: the property, you know, a few thousand here, a few
Speaker 1: thousand there. Um. And then also there's an a T
Speaker 1: n T bill that I found in monthly one that
Speaker 1: was Joe Biden's that Hunter was paying. And then there's
Speaker 1: also complaints from the Hunter to various family members, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like his daughter, his aunt, that he was
Speaker 1: having to fund the rest of the family. You know,
Speaker 1: he had to go up and do these over overpaid
Speaker 1: inflated salary um. Grayson favored jobs that his father got
Speaker 1: him um from his donors and Delaware uh, and he
Speaker 1: had to to then put the bills for the rest
Speaker 1: of the family. And um, there's one text message in
Speaker 1: which he gripes to his daughter that, UM, you know
Speaker 1: you're lucky that because unlike me, you don't have to
Speaker 1: give half your salary to pop, Pop being Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: And so that's sort of circumstantial, but there is some
Speaker 1: concrete evidence. And then there is because the laptops not
Speaker 1: enough you need. Um. I think of it as a
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzle. And another part of the jigsaw puzzle comes
Speaker 1: from Tony Bobolinsky, who was Hunter's former business partner, a patriot,
Speaker 1: an American hero, successful businessman in his own right, a
Speaker 1: former naval veteran UM and he um he came out
Speaker 1: before the election at great personal risk to say he
Speaker 1: knew that Joe Biden was the big guy, that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden had met him twice to vet him to be
Speaker 1: CEO of this joint venture with China, that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: was heavily involved orchestrating the patriarch of this Biden influenced
Speaker 1: peddling operation. And um, he is material that I have
Speaker 1: the contents of his phone, the WhatsApp messages, the documents,
Speaker 1: the emails, the text messages. They over lap with what's
Speaker 1: on the laptop, but they also buttress and augmented. And
Speaker 1: then there's another part of the jigsaw puzzle which gives
Speaker 1: you some more financial insight, and that comes from UM.
Speaker 1: Chuck Grasley and Ron Johnson sent it inquiry into Hunter,
Speaker 1: Biden and Barisma corruption and that was a really good
Speaker 1: and thorough UM investigation. And they again were produced by
Speaker 1: the Democrats and UM, you know as as agents of
Speaker 1: the Kremlin, peddling Russian infant in this information, which seems
Speaker 1: to be the sort of get out of jail free
Speaker 1: card for the Democrats anytime something you know untoward comes
Speaker 1: to light. But what the Johnson Grassley investigation UM found
Speaker 1: was these Treasury Department documents which suspicious activity reports that
Speaker 1: banks in America are required to file with the Treasury
Speaker 1: Department UM whenever there's money that's suspect from overseas coming
Speaker 1: into American bank account so whether it's from a sanctioned
Speaker 1: country like Russia or sanctioned individuals like these corrupt oligarchs
Speaker 1: or China. UM. And you know we saw from that,
Speaker 1: let's say there was three point five million dollars came
Speaker 1: from Russian oligarch Elena Battina came into a bank account
Speaker 1: associated with Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's partner UM, and that's
Speaker 1: buttressed by emails and conversations on the laptop where Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden met Elena Battery. Just a few weeks I think
Speaker 1: three or four weeks after that money came into the
Speaker 1: bank account, he went and met her at Lake Como,
Speaker 1: at this beautiful, luxurious hotel that's a haven for you know,
Speaker 1: corrupt dollargarch's UM. And there's other evidence that he and
Speaker 1: Devon Archer were trying to find deals for her property
Speaker 1: deals in Chelsea and so on. UM. And then there's
Speaker 1: another tranche of money that it comes up on these
Speaker 1: Treasury Department documents. UM. Just as one example of six
Speaker 1: million dollars that came in from that company CFC that
Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Bidens were doing a joint venture
Speaker 1: with China in UM and that six million dollars that
Speaker 1: came into the bank account of another business partner of
Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden's UM in America. So UM. You know Hunter.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I look at Hunter's life in the
Speaker 1: nine years of this laptop, and he was a raging
Speaker 1: crack addict through a lot of it in and out
Speaker 1: of rehab. Have his personal life was a disaster. UM.
Speaker 1: He would spend his time fighting with his ex wife,
Speaker 1: his his new lover, which was his sister in law,
Speaker 1: his late brother's wife, UM widow, and UM he would
Speaker 1: and he'd have prostitutes his hold up for weeks on
Speaker 1: end at the Chateau Marman or other hotels. UM. He
Speaker 1: liked liked to go to California for his benders, UM
Speaker 1: and he'd have He even admitted in his own memoir
Speaker 1: UM that he called it an ant trail of drug
Speaker 1: dealers and prostitutes that would just swarm through his hotel
Speaker 1: room and steal everything inside, including his phones, his wallet.
Speaker 1: UM you know the cows they'd ordered dom Perignon on
Speaker 1: room service. And he spent tens of thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: every time he went on one of the benders. And
Speaker 1: so we know we've seen tens of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: meant his bank account um and uh you know his
Speaker 1: bank accounts or bank accounts associated with him with his
Speaker 1: business partners. And we also have documents on the laptop
Speaker 1: bank accounts. He photographed, his statements UM and invoices for
Speaker 1: payments from Parisma and so on. And we also know
Speaker 1: that with Parisma, he's within weeks of Joe Biden the
Speaker 1: ending his term as Vice president UM Hunter, Biden's payment
Speaker 1: from Barisma, which was eighty three thousand dollars a month,
Speaker 1: was cut in half. So it's obvious why he was
Speaker 1: being paid. But again, you know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of smoke. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence UM, and
Speaker 1: some that's really quite compelling. But I think you need
Speaker 1: Tony Bobolinsky's own UM testimony because he was right there
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. UM is really compelling, and
Speaker 1: he has handed over his material to the FBI. He
Speaker 1: went and spoke to the FBI. He also gave kristimony
Speaker 1: to the grad Ley Johnson inquiry. So there's ample evidence
Speaker 1: there for UM. You know, the authorities to do something,
Speaker 1: or at least the Republicans if they re take the
Speaker 1: House and the Senate to UM launch their own inquiries.
Speaker 1: Quick commercial break more with Miranda Divine on the laptop
Speaker 1: from Hell. I mean, Miranda, what it sounds like to
Speaker 1: me is just your everyday, wholesome American family. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're just entirely corrupted. It's like, it's it's a mind
Speaker 1: blowing that this doesn't get more attention, and the media
Speaker 1: just seems to look the other way, particularly with what
Speaker 1: we went through with all of the lies trying to
Speaker 1: tie the Trumps to Russia when everything they accused the
Speaker 1: Trumps of the Bidens are guilty of. So it's just
Speaker 1: your classic case of projection. Also, why would the Russians
Speaker 1: need disinformation when there is an abundance of material for
Speaker 1: them to use it against Hunter? Like I saw a
Speaker 1: video I think the Daily mor reported on it that
Speaker 1: you know, Hunter Biden was with the prostitute talking about
Speaker 1: how he went out with a bunch of Russian drug
Speaker 1: dealers in Vegas and on a bender and they stole
Speaker 1: another one of his laptops, which is the reportedly the
Speaker 1: third laptop that has gone missing of his So it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of information do you think the Russians,
Speaker 1: the Chinese, you know, really anyone else has on the Bidens,
Speaker 1: just based off of these laptops that have gone missing alone?
Speaker 1: Well did and um, you know I actually said three
Speaker 1: laptops and we know one of them he left behind
Speaker 1: his the coiacrists house in New Report, Massachusetts, and he's
Speaker 1: the conatists to keep that tried to get to come
Speaker 1: and kick it up, and he just made it deed,
Speaker 1: saying passion and so that he put that in a
Speaker 1: UM in a in a safe and and eventually the
Speaker 1: d A came and raided a nearby pharmacy and he
Speaker 1: was caught up in that raid. Even though he was
Speaker 1: never charged with anything um and never did anything wrong,
Speaker 1: but they the d A actually took possession of that
Speaker 1: laptop and I understand that that was given back to
Speaker 1: Hunter UM. And then the laptop you mentioned about in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I mean he admits this. He wakes up face down
Speaker 1: in this um lappool in this luxury penthouse suite in
Speaker 1: this hotel in Vegas, and um, you know, he obviously
Speaker 1: the drug dealers they thought he was dead drowned, and
Speaker 1: he sort of comes to and and looks around and sees, oh,
Speaker 1: they're just stealing everything, and they took one of his laptops.
Speaker 1: So UM, and he was worried about that because he's
Speaker 1: telling the prostitute in this video that, uh, well you know,
Speaker 1: you don't understand this is this is really quite concerning
Speaker 1: because my father is running for president, and they could
Speaker 1: use this laptop as blackmail. And they know that I
Speaker 1: have gazillions of dollars. So UM, there's that. And and
Speaker 1: you know, we also know that Hunter was traveling a
Speaker 1: lot overseas while he had a crack and a pawn
Speaker 1: and a prostitute addiction. Really for the amount of time
Speaker 1: he did it, he high and escorts. UM. He he
Speaker 1: was very vulnerable, and he would travel in to Moscow
Speaker 1: and into Beijing and into Shanghai, and he was in
Speaker 1: the real inner sanctum of UM Vladimir Putin's allies, these
Speaker 1: corrupt dollargarchs in Russia. He you know, he one day
Speaker 1: he had a lunch at the State Department that his
Speaker 1: father organized, UM and his vice president with Hu jing
Speaker 1: Ping from China. He got on a plane and flew
Speaker 1: to Moscow and had breakfast at the home of one
Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin's closest oligarchs UM and then went on
Speaker 1: and had several other meetings UM. And then it was
Speaker 1: the same in China. He was being dutchessed by the
Speaker 1: very high, high up princelings of these elite families that UM,
Speaker 1: you know, have enormous amounts of money and control everything
Speaker 1: in China and part of the CCP. And he would
Speaker 1: be taken to a private club in Shanghai and applied
Speaker 1: with alcohol and drugs and beautiful women, according to various reports.
Speaker 1: And um, you know that puts him at a lot
Speaker 1: of risk. This is a vice president's sun. And we
Speaker 1: know that the Secret Service was following him for a
Speaker 1: lot of his travels, but he ushered them away, called
Speaker 1: them off, that he didn't want to travel with them
Speaker 1: anymore at one stage. And um, and you know he
Speaker 1: was in very dangerous positions without Secret Service protection for
Speaker 1: any period. Uh, it's amazing that he survived because you know,
Speaker 1: he almost drowned in Vegas, But what what on earth
Speaker 1: was going on in Moscow and in China? Very dangerous people.
Speaker 1: He was surrounding himself with, putting himself at grave risk,
Speaker 1: and yet he always it was as if he had
Speaker 1: a guardian angel looking over him. He always seemed to
Speaker 1: come out unscathed. Whereas his various business partners were jailed, murdered,
Speaker 1: went missing, but Hunter seemed to be okay. And I
Speaker 1: can only surmise there's no evidence of it, but I
Speaker 1: can only surmise that American intelligence at services were keeping
Speaker 1: an eye out for him. They must have been aware
Speaker 1: of what Hunter Biden was doing, what the son of
Speaker 1: the Vice President was doing, even if he didn't have
Speaker 1: the Secret Service with him, UM, and you know, they
Speaker 1: must have been able to get him out of scrapes,
Speaker 1: get him out of dangerous situations, warned him off certain
Speaker 1: people who were really dangerous, because there is some evidence
Speaker 1: of that he is deep into one deal with this
Speaker 1: one prince ling and then suddenly that person disappeared and
Speaker 1: someone else replaced him, and eventually that original princeling was
Speaker 1: arrested and met a sticky end. So someone was looking
Speaker 1: after Hunter. And I think it's really reprehensible if the
Speaker 1: intelligence services did know what he was up to, that
Speaker 1: they allowed the vice president's son to be in such
Speaker 1: a position where he was compromising the Vice president, UM,
Speaker 1: at the very least, in compromising America's national security. And
Speaker 1: you know, when you understand that one of these companies
Speaker 1: that the Biden family was doing a joint venture with CFC,
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden met with Tony bock Lynsky to vet
Speaker 1: him as the CEO of the joint venture, when you
Speaker 1: understand that CFC is the capitalist arm of President Gee's
Speaker 1: Belt and Road initiative, which is their imperialist push to
Speaker 1: basically colonize the world. Um. When you understand that, you
Speaker 1: can see just how damaging it is to America's national
Speaker 1: interest that the Biden family was involved with with the
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party in Belton Road. That's the antithesis of
Speaker 1: America's national interest. But it really makes you wonder now
Speaker 1: when Joe Biden is so soft on President G doesn't
Speaker 1: even ask in their four meetings about you know, the
Speaker 1: Wuhan Lab and can we have access to it to
Speaker 1: find out the origins of COVID nineteen doesn't even ask
Speaker 1: that question. Um, And when when President g is so
Speaker 1: openly disrespectful of the President of the United States that
Speaker 1: after their last meeting he sent warplanes to Buzz Taiwan,
Speaker 1: makes you wonder why Joe Biden is in such a
Speaker 1: weak position. And is it because of that relationship he
Speaker 1: and his family had with presidencies administrations, with the CCP,
Speaker 1: with these business ventures that enriched them. Is Joe Biden compromised? Well,
Speaker 1: I look, the circumstantial evidence is that yes. I mean,
Speaker 1: how can he not be when he and his family
Speaker 1: were doing business with the Chinese with the Belton Road initiative.
Speaker 1: I mean they were doing work for the last two
Speaker 1: years of Joe Biden's vice presidency. Hunter and his partners
Speaker 1: were working on behalf of CFC Belton Road in countries overseas,
Speaker 1: whether it be Romania or passic stand. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: they were they were going and opening doors on behalf
Speaker 1: of CFC using the Biden name. They were buying UM,
Speaker 1: you know, sting that were important. I mean we know
Speaker 1: from another a Hunch's business deals UM that the New
Speaker 1: York Times Lo and Behold reported on UM. This other
Speaker 1: company b HR that he had has well I think
Speaker 1: still has, although they're saying that he doesn't. UM ten
Speaker 1: percent of hr HR brought up of these cobalt minds
Speaker 1: in the congo and UM. Cobalt of course, is you know,
Speaker 1: one of these crucial materials that you need that are
Speaker 1: rare and that you need for battery power for electric
Speaker 1: cards and so on. UM so UM. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of UM deals and involvement in China's aggressive posture against
Speaker 1: America and its allies that the Bidens were involved in.
Speaker 1: And while they didn't get the money from the CFC
Speaker 1: deals that they were doing while Joe Biden was vice president.
Speaker 1: Um I'm told and Tony Boblinsky certainly believes this that
Speaker 1: the money was withheld until after he left office. And
Speaker 1: in fact, there's an interesting there's a passage in the
Speaker 1: book where I have Hunter Biden is in New York
Speaker 1: and he's in a restaurant meeting with the number two
Speaker 1: guy at CFC, a guy called Directors Ang, and he's
Speaker 1: pounding the table and he's saying, you own my family
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars for all the work that we did
Speaker 1: for you the last two years around the world. And
Speaker 1: Directors Ang is that there was quite a few people
Speaker 1: at this meeting. Director's Anger had an entourage and so
Speaker 1: did Hunter, and Directors Ang very impassive and very calm,
Speaker 1: but he's a senior official in the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: and Hunter's partners who were there with him were really
Speaker 1: quite aghast because they thought, you know, you really taking
Speaker 1: a lot of risks being so rude to this guy
Speaker 1: who could have you whacked any any moment. But Hunter
Speaker 1: got his money. The money did come through in dribs
Speaker 1: and drabs later on. You can see evidence of that
Speaker 1: on the laptop and also in the Johnson Graduley Inquiry documents.
Speaker 1: To what extent do we know China was involved in
Speaker 1: the election, because we know they wanted Biden to win.
Speaker 1: We saw the night of the election when it looked
Speaker 1: like Trump was gonna win, China's currency and knows dived
Speaker 1: when it looked like Biden was going to win. It's
Speaker 1: skyrocketed again. We know for Mentell that China wanted Biden
Speaker 1: twin Do we do we know to what extent they
Speaker 1: were involved in trying to shape the election? No, I
Speaker 1: have absolutely, Viewer, there's there's nothing. I mean, the laptop
Speaker 1: finishes in April. Um, there's just nothing nothing on there. Um,
Speaker 1: I I think, I mean, I guess what's what's interesting U,
Speaker 1: the laptop ending in night is that it's almost like
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was trying to put the car bosh on
Speaker 1: his father's election prospects, because it was only a few
Speaker 1: days later that Joe Biden announced his candidacy. UM, so Hunter,
Speaker 1: who you know, hero worshiped his father but also had
Speaker 1: ambivalent feelings towards him and had great anger towards him.
Speaker 1: Especially around that time. Um and Joe Biden spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time trying to reach out to Hunter and
Speaker 1: get family members to reach out to him, to to
Speaker 1: sort of mollify him and get him to come back
Speaker 1: into the fold so that he wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: a loose cannon during the election campaign. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if China tried to get involved. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: we look, we know that you know, everyone overseas tries
Speaker 1: to interfere with um, you know, send box out into
Speaker 1: social media and so on. But I think the biggest
Speaker 1: in intervention election interference that I saw was the meat. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: it was John Brennan with his letter. It was big
Speaker 1: tech centering the stroy You know, if we know from
Speaker 1: some polls that were done after the election, Media Research
Speaker 1: Center found that almost half of Biden voters did not
Speaker 1: know about the scandal of the laptop and they did
Speaker 1: not know that Hunter Biden was under investigation. And what's more,
Speaker 1: one in ten of them, if they had known, would
Speaker 1: have changed their vote. And in an election that was
Speaker 1: decided on four SORR forty five thousand votes across a
Speaker 1: handful of battleground states, that would have made a material difference.
Speaker 1: It could have changed the outcome. That is direct election interference.
Speaker 1: It really is and and it's not just Hudder Biden.
Speaker 1: You know, how extensive is it within the Biden family
Speaker 1: of people trying to cash in on Biden's last name. Well,
Speaker 1: they're just a bunch of grifters, you know, you look
Speaker 1: at it. This has been going on since the beginning
Speaker 1: of Joe Biden Senate career, when he was thirty years old.
Speaker 1: Um he uh, you know, he's in this unique position
Speaker 1: where a he suffered this immense tragedy which no one
Speaker 1: would take away from him. His wife and his baby
Speaker 1: daughter were killed in a car crash. Hunter Biden and
Speaker 1: his older brother Bow were both badly injured. Hunter got
Speaker 1: brain injuries and Bow had some broken legs. And they
Speaker 1: were in hospital for some time. And Joe Biden came
Speaker 1: and um, you know, had a photograph taken of him
Speaker 1: being sworn in next to his you know, motherless boys bedside,
Speaker 1: and that tugged at the heartstrings of America. And he's
Speaker 1: used it in his campaign materials ever since. It's really
Speaker 1: been his magic ticket to um, you know, higher office.
Speaker 1: And and and it also allowed him when he first joined
Speaker 1: the Senate, you know, he left his boys and went
Speaker 1: on to do this very important job. And he was
Speaker 1: taken under the ring by some older Dixiecrats, let's say,
Speaker 1: and they shoehorned him into really powerful positions in the
Speaker 1: Senate on the Senate chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee,
Speaker 1: the chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. This gave
Speaker 1: him immense power back in Delaware, especially because Delaware. This
Speaker 1: other unique aspect of Joe Biden's career is that Delaware
Speaker 1: it's called the America's Lichtenstein, like the Virgin Islands, it's
Speaker 1: really a tax haven. This is why so many corporations
Speaker 1: are incorporated there because it has hardly any transparency um.
Speaker 1: And there then it's got good tax incentives. And so
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was able to do favors for various companies
Speaker 1: headquartered in Delaware, and they were his donors. And they also, um,
Speaker 1: you know, helped him get housing cheaply. You know, he
Speaker 1: has always he calls himself the poorest man in Congress
Speaker 1: and wears that as a badge of honor. Um. But
Speaker 1: in fact he lives like a billionaire. He lives in
Speaker 1: the most you know, has always lived in the most
Speaker 1: beautiful mansions, um, And dresses in fine clothes and um,
Speaker 1: you know, has a lifestyle that is very unusual for
Speaker 1: someone who makes a senator salary. And he was able
Speaker 1: to get grace and favor jobs from his donors for
Speaker 1: a hunter, but also for you know, nieces and nephews
Speaker 1: and siblings. Um. The entire Biden family has had this
Speaker 1: life of entitlement. Every door is open to them, every
Speaker 1: ivy league college, UM, you know, jobs, government sinecures help
Speaker 1: if they get into um. You know, have have some
Speaker 1: spot of bother with the police that seems to be
Speaker 1: smoothed over. I know. I mean I've I've had conversations
Speaker 1: with police in Delaware and they were really happy that
Speaker 1: I was writing this book because they felt that the
Speaker 1: Bidens have gotten away with blue murder for decades. And
Speaker 1: I think there's resentment in some quarters in Delaware for
Speaker 1: the way that the Biden's rule the roost there and
Speaker 1: live these lives of the luxury and entitlement. And really
Speaker 1: it's it's just a story of drifting and Joe Biden
Speaker 1: has done. You know, he's a sort of camminy or politician.
Speaker 1: He's very good at one on one's charming people, or
Speaker 1: used to be. And uh, and I guess it's all
Speaker 1: about relationships, and he internationalized that sort of influenced peddling
Speaker 1: operation to the rest of the world when he became
Speaker 1: Vice president, and it's very well recognized as a way
Speaker 1: of doing business in third world countries, are in countries
Speaker 1: like China. So when Joe Biden arrived on Air Force
Speaker 1: too with Hunter Biden, that was very clear a message
Speaker 1: to Chinese eyes that this was American power come to
Speaker 1: do private business. Because that's the way they do it.
Speaker 1: The princelings are the offspring, the relatives of the people
Speaker 1: in power in China and the top of the CCP,
Speaker 1: and it's the offsprings, the siblings, the family members who
Speaker 1: get paid the bribes, not the CCP member, not not
Speaker 1: you know, President Yujunping, It's the family members. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly how they recognize that the bidens we're doing business.
Speaker 1: And before we go, what was your biggest takeaway in
Speaker 1: writing and researching for this book. I think on a
Speaker 1: personal level, it gave me an insight into Joe Biden's character. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I guess the the thing I always came back
Speaker 1: to was what kind of a father puts his drug
Speaker 1: addicted son in in such temptation? Puts him in front
Speaker 1: of these gushing torrents of unaccountable cash. Makes him your
Speaker 1: bag man. He Hunter wanted to be an artist, he
Speaker 1: wanted to be a writer. Um, he'd suffered this great
Speaker 1: tragedy in the beginning of his life. He was a
Speaker 1: troubled soul. And he writes in his own memoir that
Speaker 1: it was the arrhythma money. And he described, I think
Speaker 1: it's like funny money because he was getting it for nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, eighty three thousand dollars a month. And he
Speaker 1: said that was really what was the sort of straw
Speaker 1: that broke the camels back of any will power He
Speaker 1: was trying to exert over his addictions and he really
Speaker 1: fell off the wagon. And Joe Biden knew that. Why
Speaker 1: would he put his son onto such stress? Uh? He
Speaker 1: he makes out he's this great family man, but he
Speaker 1: does that Twisin son and it really it's a chilling
Speaker 1: fool that gives us a lot to think about. Miranda,
Speaker 1: Divine Laptop from Hell, amazing work. Such a fan of yours,
Speaker 1: so much respect. Thank you so much for joining the show.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Oh, thanks so much, Lisa and
Speaker 1: the feelings mutual. I want to thank Branda Divine again
Speaker 1: for such an interesting interview. Go out and get her books.
Speaker 1: She's awesome. I'm wanna thank you guys at home for
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