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Speaker 1: Jeff Crueer analyzes and debates the critical issues facing our

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Speaker 2: Good to everyone, Jeff Creer here, it's Ringside Politics on

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Speaker 2: You know, folks, when the election was stolen in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: here in Ringside Politics, right here in Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Career with you. We'll be right back. A lot

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Speaker 2: Legal Foundation, and Mike how are you sir? Welcome, good

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Speaker 4: Jeff, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thanks so much for your time, and

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Speaker 2: Who did I mean? I'm a layman, I'm no expert.

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Speaker 4: A couple of things.

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Speaker 5: First of all, this is an indictment, so this is

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Speaker 5: And then the second charge was obstruction of a congressional proceeding,

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Speaker 4: They wanted to change the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Now if he lied about that in front of Congress, he.

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Speaker 2: So again, Mike, Yeah, go ahead, and I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll keep our fingers crossed and over some

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Speaker 8: not only was that.

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Speaker 3: A gracious, kind of virtuous thing to do, it's effective

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Speaker 3: because when your.

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Speaker 8: Opponent see this guy kind of respects me. We kind

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Speaker 8: of disagree here, but he kind of enjoys me, and

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Speaker 8: he's thanking me for being here, and he's telling me

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Speaker 8: he appreciates the trust I have in him and sharing

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Speaker 8: my views. I thought, this guy can teach you something.

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Speaker 8: I've been spending the last week reading about him, and

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Speaker 8: so last night I was at NYU Catholic Student Center,

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Speaker 8: about two hundred students there. This is what they talked about.

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Speaker 8: This is what they talked about.

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Speaker 2: And of course he's right. He had that kind of

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Speaker 2: respect for people on the other side, inviting dialogue, debate,

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Speaker 2: and you know, was so effective and so influential because

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Speaker 2: he touched so many people and turned him around from

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Speaker 2: the indoctrination towards the truth. All right, we want the truth.

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Speaker 2: What about the truth about Oklahoma City and the bombing?

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Speaker 2: So many things we've been told or lies about so

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Speaker 2: many of these big events in American history. We've got

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Speaker 2: a real expert on it. Next right here on Ringside Politics,

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Speaker 2: on Real America's voice will be right back. Thirty years ago.

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Speaker 2: You had the Oklahoma City bombing that rocked the nation

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Speaker 2: in April of nineteen ninety five, and among the victims

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Speaker 2: of that tragic event were two young young boys, the

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Speaker 2: grandsons of our next guest who has really embarked upon

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Speaker 2: an incredible investigation into what really happened, been there digging

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Speaker 2: a lot deeper than the official narrative her book, Shadows

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Speaker 2: of Conspiracy. Let's welcome Kathy Sanders to the Ringside Politics Program. Hey, Kathy,

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Speaker 2: how are you welcome?

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Speaker 7: I'm fine, Thank you, Jeff. It's good to be here

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Speaker 7: with you this morn afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you've been digging all these years to try

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Speaker 2: to get to the truth. The official narrative it was

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Speaker 2: Timothy McVeigh with help from one guy, right, Terry Nichols.

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Speaker 2: Is that the truth, Kathy.

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Speaker 4: No, that isn't the truth.

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Speaker 7: You see, just a few days after the bombing, and

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Speaker 7: after we buried my grandchildren, I had a dinner at

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Speaker 7: my home with some of the parents of the nineteen

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Speaker 7: children that were killed, and one of the mothers alerted

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Speaker 7: us that the bomb squad.

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Speaker 4: Had been downtown before.

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Speaker 7: We didn't labor, And then we found a whole office

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Speaker 7: full of people, and we were concerned, what did the

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Speaker 7: world with the bomb squad have been doing downtown before

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Speaker 7: the bombing. I think they had prior knowledge and I've

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Speaker 7: spent thirty years investigating.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so prior knowledge of what exactly what are we

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Speaker 2: talking about here? Timothy McVey part of a broader network?

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Speaker 2: Was it even Timothy McVey? Was Terry Nichols involved? How

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Speaker 2: vast of a network are we talking about here? Didn't

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Speaker 2: they initially say it was some sort of person with

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Speaker 2: Timothy mvay there was Middle Eastern looking? Am I wrong

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Straight here, Kathy, You're.

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Speaker 4: Right, you're right.

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Speaker 7: You know, right after the bombing, the largest man hunt

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Speaker 7: in American history was going on for John Doe number two,

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Speaker 7: And in just a couple of weeks, the FBI says, hey,

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Speaker 7: you know what, we made a mistake.

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Speaker 4: There is no John Doe number two.

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Speaker 7: And it's like, what twenty four eyewitnesses that saw John

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Speaker 7: Doe number two downtown the morning of the bombing, and

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Speaker 7: not one.

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Speaker 4: Saw him alone.

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Speaker 7: Many of them described the same dark skinned man with

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Speaker 7: the hat with the flames on the side and the

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Speaker 7: tattoo on his arm. I don't think twenty four people.

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Speaker 4: Could be wrong. You know, the manhut for John Doe

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Speaker 4: number two.

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Speaker 7: He even had a two million dollar reward on his hand.

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Speaker 7: There was something just fishy to me about that. And

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Speaker 7: I went to Stephen Jones, Timothy mcvay's attorney, and I said, look,

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Speaker 7: if you want to point the finger at someone else,

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Speaker 7: I'll help you because I want everybody round up and

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Speaker 7: brought to the party. And that that's exactly what I

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Speaker 7: started doing. I was an asset to the Jones team

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Speaker 7: because no one wanted to help McVeigh and they wouldn't

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Speaker 7: talk to the to the defense team. But as a victim,

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Speaker 7: I could go talk to him. Therefore, I was privy

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Speaker 7: to all the documents. I learned about Carol Howe, an

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Speaker 7: ATF informant that had warned her ATF handler people at

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Speaker 7: Ellaheim City, where she was planted were planning a bombing.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So you were getting all this other information together.

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Speaker 2: The public wasn't getting it. Timothy McVeigh was executed in

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Speaker 2: record time, wasn't he didn't he admit? Didn't he admit

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Speaker 2: to his role though in this bombing.

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Speaker 7: McVeigh did admit to his role. I'm talking to Stephen Jones,

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Speaker 7: he told Tim. He goes, Tim, I think you're lying.

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Speaker 7: I think there's other people involved. And Tim said, well,

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Speaker 7: how would tell him the truth change anything? And Jones

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Speaker 7: reluctantly said, well, I guess it wouldn't, and then McVeigh

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Speaker 7: stuck with.

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Speaker 4: His story that he was the only one.

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Speaker 7: Most people aren't aware he was given a light at

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Speaker 7: hector test and he failed it.

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Speaker 4: When it came to did you act alone? He said yes,

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Speaker 4: and that was all right.

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Speaker 2: So you're the expert on this. Who was this other

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Speaker 2: individual that was with him? Who was it, Kathy.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm not sure. I have several suspects that I

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Speaker 7: believe that it could be.

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Speaker 4: Quickly. I'll tell you.

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Speaker 7: Jennifer McVay said she was laundering one hundred dollars bills

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Speaker 7: for her brother that came from bank robberies. And there

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Speaker 7: was a group of men staying at Ellaheim City where

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Speaker 7: the ATF informant was that the FBI had named the

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Speaker 7: Midwest bank robbers.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's very possible. One of my strong

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Speaker 4: suspects would.

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Speaker 7: Be perhaps Richard Guthrie. I have several ideas, but why

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Speaker 7: I pick on Richard Guthrie. He was arrested after the bombing,

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Speaker 7: but not for the Oklahoma City bombing, and he told

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Speaker 7: an LA Times reporter, I'm getting ready to blow the

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Speaker 7: lid off the Oklahoma City bombing, and the next day

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Speaker 7: he was found hanging dead in his cell.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what Richard was going to tell him,

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Speaker 7: but I think that the money that Tim's sister was

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Speaker 7: laundering for her brother came from the bank robbers that

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Speaker 7: the guys at Ellaheim City were involved in because they

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Speaker 7: were wed.

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Speaker 2: I'm gled about it minute, Kathy. Was the Iraqi government

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Speaker 2: involved in this? You think, now, I any Middle Eastern

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Speaker 2: connection here?

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Speaker 4: No, I did not see one. One of the most

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Speaker 4: poignant things I found.

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Speaker 7: I called Danny Coulson, FBI agent Danny Colson, who was

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Speaker 7: called in to be the lead investigator on the Oklahoma

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Speaker 7: City bombing case.

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Speaker 4: I found out he retired.

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Speaker 7: I called him, I said, I want to talk to you,

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Speaker 7: and this was ten years after the bombing. He agreed

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Speaker 7: to talk. I took all my evidence files and I

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Speaker 7: met with him. I showed him my files and Carol

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Speaker 7: how in the ATF reports where she warned him these

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Speaker 7: people are planning a bombing.

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Speaker 4: I showed him Jennifer mcvay's confession.

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Speaker 7: I showed him this phone calls that McVeigh made in

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Speaker 7: Ollahima City, and Danny Colson told me, wow, he goes,

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Speaker 7: you probably have more information than anyone.

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Speaker 4: Anyone know what the point of the story is.

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Speaker 7: That he said, Kathy, I understand now. After the bombing,

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Speaker 7: I was called in to be in charge of the

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Speaker 7: bombing case and I was put on leave and that's

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Speaker 7: where I stayed for ten years until I retired.

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Speaker 4: And he didn't.

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Speaker 7: He wasn't privy to all the information I was showing him.

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Speaker 2: Well you do. Really, you've done the public of great

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Speaker 2: service here with your investigation and the book. We need

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Speaker 2: to learn more. It's just another case where the public

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Speaker 2: hasn't been told the truth about a major event in

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Speaker 2: American history. And thank you for your courage and putting

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Speaker 2: all this research together. Thank you for writing the book.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to having you back on. Kathy Sanders with us.

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Speaker 2: A book is Shadows of Conspiracy, all about the Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City bombing. Thank you, Kathy. All right. You know, Kathy

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Speaker 2: is exercising her rights as an American to write about

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Speaker 2: an issue. I'm exercising my rights as an American to

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Speaker 2: speak out. We do have free speech rights, thankfully. And

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Speaker 2: we have a guest who has written about that. She's

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Speaker 2: a clinical psychologist and best selling author. Doctor Chloe with

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Speaker 2: us from the Free State of Florida and doctor how

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Speaker 2: are you welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Joff.

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Speaker 10: It's great to be with you and the free speech community.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so free speech is under attack here, doctor Chloe.

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Speaker 2: We certainly saw a killer, you know, take out Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 2: who believed in free speech. He was on campuses to

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Speaker 2: promote free speech. I've been worried about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in college campuses for years because it seems to be

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Speaker 2: so one sided, such just left wing and doctrination. When

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Speaker 2: I went to college, it was more of a debate

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Speaker 2: atmosphere where all sides were welcomed, and I think there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people that don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: from conservatives on college campuses. That's the threat to free speech,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely In fact, they considered a threat to their existence

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Speaker 10: right to hear from people that they don't like. And

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Speaker 10: you're absolutely right, Jeff, that when you went to college

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Speaker 10: and when I went to college, the skew of liberal

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Speaker 10: faculty was certainly always stronger than to conservatives, but it's

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Speaker 10: nowhere near it like what it is now. For example,

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Speaker 10: in New England, the liberal to conservative faculty ratio is

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Speaker 10: twenty eight to one. And so we have these phrases

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Speaker 10: like words or violence flying around to the point where

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Speaker 10: people feel justified in using actual violence as quote self

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Speaker 10: defense against speech that they don't like. As a psychologist,

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Speaker 10: I think it's psychotic.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm glad you've written about this, and you

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Speaker 2: know you've talked about Can I say that of one

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Speaker 2: of your books, how free speech matters and how to

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Speaker 2: use it fearlessly? Boy, Charlie Kirk was certainly doing that.

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Speaker 2: He was fearless. He knew there were threats against him,

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Speaker 2: he knew people wanted to shut him up. He went

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Speaker 2: out there anyway, and he lost his life because of it.

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Speaker 2: We certainly see, seemingly to me a lot of left

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Speaker 2: wing violence that is occurring now. They're going after conservatives.

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Speaker 2: The rhetoric that we see from some of these politicians

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Speaker 2: on the left, Nazi Hitler, you know, Gestapo, I mean

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Speaker 2: that just riles up people that are already deranged and

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Speaker 2: they commit acts of violence. So these are real concerns

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Speaker 2: for those of us who who do believe in the

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Speaker 2: First Amendment, believe it free speech absolutely.

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Speaker 10: I was at one of Charlie's events this past summer.

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Speaker 10: I mean, what an amazing man. But to your point,

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Speaker 10: as far as the politics of this, I mean, I

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 10: think free speech should be owned by people on all

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Speaker 10: sides of the aisle. It's for all of us. However,

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Speaker 10: as I explain in my book, can I say that

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Speaker 10: there is something unique coming from the left here? There's

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Speaker 10: two things which I think are related. One is what

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Speaker 10: I call dialogue intolerance. So liberals are statistically more likely

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Speaker 10: than conservatives to disinvite a speaker, defriend on Facebook, drop

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Speaker 10: in real life, distance in real life, or decline to

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Speaker 10: date over political differences. They're also statistically much more likely,

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Speaker 10: like we're talking double to eight times more likely to

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Speaker 10: endorse or celebrate political violence. And as a psychologist, this

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Speaker 10: makes perfect sense to me, because when you have a

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Speaker 10: teach them.

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Speaker 2: To use their words.

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Speaker 10: So the left, I think that I try to be compassionate.

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Speaker 10: I'm assuming that they Meanwhile, they're shutting down in dialogue

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Speaker 10: because they are misinformed. They think the right is truly

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Speaker 10: hitler and whatnot, So then they don't want to talk.

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Speaker 10: And as a psychologist, we know that when you don't talk,

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Speaker 10: that's when you're more vulnerable to acting out with violence.

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Speaker 10: So we need to reach them.

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Speaker 2: How did this happen. I mean, how did it get

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Speaker 2: people that have lost touch with their children because their

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Speaker 2: children are more left wing. They've become alienated, friendships have

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Speaker 2: been lost, and it's usually the left winger that is saying, no,

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Speaker 2: I can't be friends with you if you support MAGA

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump. I've experienced that with people on the left.

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Speaker 2: So how did this happen? And unfortunately only have about

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Speaker 2: a minute, so tell us yeah too.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, to your point, you know, whether it be powerful

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Speaker 10: politicians that are suggesting, you know, that mega equals you know,

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Speaker 10: Gestapo and slave trade, or large amounts of media where

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Speaker 10: you hear, you know, Steven Miller being called an absolute

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Speaker 10: white supremacist, and so therefore they feel as if they

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Speaker 10: are just simply being virtuous there. And I think unfortunately

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Speaker 10: vast majority of Americans who are liberal are being very misled,

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Speaker 10: factually misled. And so I look to politicians and to

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Speaker 10: general media as well as to most of academia for

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Speaker 10: truly that's where the true misinformation I think is coming from.

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Speaker 2: Yes, doctor Chloe, your work is valuable. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your voice, Thank you for your courage and

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Speaker 2: speaking out and thanks for being with us, you know,

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Speaker 2: speaking of that left wing violence. It's not just here

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Speaker 2: in this country. How about Italy. They didn't like the

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Speaker 2: fact that Palestine hasn't been recognized by the Italian Prime Minister,

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Speaker 2: and TIFA went on a rampage. Let's check out clip

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Speaker 2: number three. And one place here in this country where

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Speaker 2: they've certainly made their mark is Minnesota. So here's a

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Speaker 2: little example of the next tourism video you're going to

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Speaker 2: see for the great state of Minnesota. Let's check out

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Speaker 2: clip number four.

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Speaker 11: Welcome to Minnesota, where every moment is an adventure. From

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Speaker 11: the tranquiled natural beauty of our waters to the rich

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Speaker 11: culture of our cities. Minnesota is where unforgettable memories are made.

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Speaker 11: Step into friendly neighborhoods, you feel right at home the

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Speaker 11: moment you'll arrive. Stroll through vibrant streets, soaking the energy

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Speaker 11: of our dynamic nightline, or indulge in a shopping spree

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Speaker 11: at one of our world class boutiques. And behind it

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Speaker 11: all is strong leadership and inclusive policies that create a

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Speaker 11: place where everyone can thrive. Minnesota, We're ready to be

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Speaker 11: your next adventure.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful our friends in Minnesota are going to make

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Speaker 2: some new decisions as far as their political leadership goes.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to get to as we roll on.

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Speaker 2: Springs up politics here in real America's voice. We'll be

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Speaker 2: right back.

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Speaker 4: Resubpolitics.

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Speaker 6: We will put don.

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Speaker 7: See you up front, resub politics, politics and subfus reside flances.

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Speaker 4: Now this sim we're still queer.

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Speaker 2: Your host, all right, welcome back. You know, my wife

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Speaker 2: has been telling me that she doesn't like to go

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Speaker 2: buy meat from the grocery store any longer. She thinks

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Speaker 2: it's fake. Doesn't like to go to a lot of

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Speaker 2: fast food places any longer. She thinks the meat is fake,

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Speaker 2: not like the meat that she enjoyed years ago. She

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Speaker 2: thinks that we're really going in the wrong direction, which

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Speaker 2: is why I'm excited to bring on our guests here,

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Speaker 2: Lee Bothel with a switch to USA beef dot com

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Speaker 2: because they have the real deal. And Lee, how are

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Speaker 2: you welcome?

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Speaker 9: And I'm well, Jeff, you have quite the variety of topics.

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Speaker 9: But yes, I think you should listen to your wife.

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Speaker 2: I try, I try, I really did. She's a conservative,

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Speaker 2: which helps. But tell a little bit about switch to

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Speaker 2: USA Beef. So how good is this beef? Because you know,

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Speaker 2: my wife's watching, she wants to hear all about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, and your wife's right.

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Speaker 9: I mean when you talk about you know, beef and

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Speaker 9: you think back to when we were kids, and you know,

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Speaker 9: the flavor, the quality, the value were the key things

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Speaker 9: that we were looking for. And we've got all that.

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Speaker 9: But the real key is that people just don't know

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Speaker 9: what they're getting when they go to the store anymore.

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Speaker 9: So it's about trust and stewardship and integrity and knowing

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Speaker 9: that you know, what the label says is actually what

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Speaker 9: it is.

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Speaker 2: So you've got grass fed beef from a US company

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Speaker 2: which gives us two checks in your favor, tell us

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Speaker 2: some of the other parts of what you're offering. And

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Speaker 2: as far as hormones, what about hormones? Is that involved

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Speaker 2: at all in any of the beef that we have

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Speaker 2: from Switch to USA Beef.

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Speaker 9: Well, there were thirty years in the making and that,

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Speaker 9: you know, gives us a superior genetics, which you know,

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Speaker 9: lend to the quality and the flavor. But we've got

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Speaker 9: you know, never any antibiotics or added hormones, and that's

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Speaker 9: really key, and part of that's the stewardship where the

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Speaker 9: calves stay with their mothers for the first two years.

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Speaker 9: They their first year on the rangeland their second year

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Speaker 9: in the high lands. They eat from meadow grass that's

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Speaker 9: grown by us non GMO, so the you know, and

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Speaker 9: beyond that, we've got a state of the art processing

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Speaker 9: facility right on the ranch. The cattle aren't shipped anywhere

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Speaker 9: and traumatized by that or and we don't lose control

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Speaker 9: of the process. So we have the you know, integrity

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Speaker 9: to be able to say that you're getting exactly what.

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Speaker 2: We have on the label, and so that means the

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Speaker 2: u fully integrated, are vertally integrated. That's what you're talking

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Speaker 2: about right from from the whole process is something that

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Speaker 2: you control correct.

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Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, and that's really the only way that you know,

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Speaker 9: I mean, even if you go to the butcher, you

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Speaker 9: have to ask that question. You know, where is it

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Speaker 9: processed and you know, how is it combined with other things.

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Speaker 9: There's lots that happens behind the scenes that people can

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Speaker 9: easily find on social media. But we've got a two

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Speaker 9: hundred and ten thousand square foot state of the art

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Speaker 9: processing plant built right on the ranch and a seven

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Speaker 9: hundred and eighty thousand square foot cooler where the beef

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Speaker 9: is aged for twenty eight days to maximize the flavor

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Speaker 9: and quality.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it sounds delicious, and it's a US company, so

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Speaker 2: you know there are live advantages. Now, I'm sure for

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Speaker 2: this kind of high quality, we're talking about super high

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Speaker 2: prices rightly.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know they really are able to buy it.

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Speaker 9: Being fully integrated control the prices then bring you the

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Speaker 9: best value. So you'll find it fifty dollars less than

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Speaker 9: butcher box and wow, you're able to save another fifty

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Speaker 9: dollars with shopping at the partner wellness store. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: we've got we're the only one that can say that

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Speaker 9: we're fully integrated, and we're one of two that are

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Speaker 9: never any antibiotics or hormones added.

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Speaker 2: So it's super high quality, great prices, and people can

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Speaker 2: just conveniently order it and have it delivered to their home.

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Speaker 9: Right Yeah, ten pound bundles, various cuts of meat, you

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Speaker 9: can add in additional up to fourteen pounds. You can

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Speaker 9: get it once a month or once every other month, so.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of variety. So to get started, we

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Speaker 2: just go to switch to USA Beef Dot Calmly.

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Speaker 9: That's right, Switch the number two usabef dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm looking at it right now. I'm getting

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Speaker 2: hungry just looking at all the great pictures of this

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Speaker 2: delicious beef. And I've recommended to you all of our

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Speaker 2: wonderful viewers. Thank you at Lee Batha with us from

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Speaker 2: switch the number two usabeef dot com. Check it out, folks,

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Speaker 2: you'll definitely be very pleased. All right, I'm not pleased

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Speaker 2: with the baseball announcer for the New York Mets. Let's

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Speaker 2: check out clip.

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Speaker 12: Number five star player Matt Shaw was friends with Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 12: who was a fan of the team. After Charlie's murder,

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Speaker 12: Erica Kirk asked Matt to come to the memorial. He did,

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Speaker 12: and he missed a game to do so. Now we

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Speaker 12: come back to the Mets, whose announcer is under fire

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Speaker 12: for these comments.

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Speaker 13: I don't want to talk about it. I think the

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Speaker 13: politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team

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Speaker 13: in the middle of a race for any reason other

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Speaker 13: than a family emergency really strikes me as weird.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it was so weird that a guy wanted to

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Speaker 12: go to his friend who had been gruesomely murdered in

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Speaker 12: front of millions.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 12: It's funny that same announcer didn't think it was weird

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Speaker 12: at all that a moment of silence was held for

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Speaker 12: a career criminal who had overdosed on fentanyl while the

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Speaker 12: players covered their faces outside while cardboard cutouts of people

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. And finally, you want to give kudos to a

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Speaker 2: smart bunch of dogs, Let's check out clip number six,

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Speaker 2: Old girl, it's liberals, liberals, Liberals hit them.

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Speaker 1: Liberals.

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Speaker 2: What didn't have to take some lady list born with it?

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna check out our memes of the week.

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Speaker 2: The first one is from Susan in the Great State

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Speaker 2: of California, and that is Yes, look at old James,

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Speaker 2: comey there, founding some seashells. Good one, Susan. The next

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Speaker 2: one here is from john S in Texas and just

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about there, Charlie Kirk memorial versus the

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Speaker 2: BLM memorial. Well done. And our final one here from

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Speaker 2: the team is Robert in Virginia the Leftist Dilemma. I

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Speaker 2: had to take your tolin all while mascalone in your

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Speaker 2: car are great? And now, without further ado, one from

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Speaker 2: the great outstanding raft team in Denver. We've got our

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Speaker 2: next one ready to shire all right. Excellent, excellent, excellent,

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Speaker 2: always deliver they always deliver good ones. All right. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to our great team in Denver for there a great

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Speaker 2: work in making this show so fun and enjoyable, and

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Speaker 2: thanks to all of you for joining us. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back next Saturday to do it again. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: check me out on the radio and WGSO thoughts, comments,

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Speaker 2: I do you suggestions email me at Jeff AWGSO dot

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Speaker 2: com and don't forget keep it right here on Real

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Speaker 2: America's voice for the best programming in the country. Glad

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Speaker 2: to be with you, have a great week and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you next Saturday.