1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you missed in 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: history class? From house stuff works dot com. Hello, and 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm to bling a chuck rewarding 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: and I'm fair. And in two thousand nine, a couple 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: of antique dealers from Mexico, Carlos and Laticia Neiola, stirred 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: up a big controversy in the art world. They'd for 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: some time had in their possession a huge, previously unknown 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: trove of material that belonged to renowned twentieth century artists, 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: free to Carlo Now, who's probably, of course, considered one 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: of the most famous painters ever, certainly one of the 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: most iconic painters absolutely, And this trove that they have 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: includes paintings, letters, diaries complete with sexually explicit doodles, recipes, 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and other keepsakes. So this trope sounds pretty interesting, but 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: the way they came by it is admittedly a little 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: bit sketchy. The couple say that they bought it from 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: a lawyer who got it from a wood carver who 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: worked for Diego Rivera, CALO's husband, and they have a 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: letter to the wood carver from Calo, offering the stash 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: to him as payment for some work that he'd done, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: And this is kind of one of their one of 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: the proofs that they have of it. Initially, nobody really 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: paid much attention to the fact that they had this, 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: But just when Princeton Architectural Press was about to publish 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: a book featuring the fines called Finding Free to Callo 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Free to, experts from all over stepped forward to protest. Yeah. 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: According to a article in Newsweek by Jenny Yabrof, twelve 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: Calo experts signed this official letter denouncing the new collection, 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: and the trust that controls Klo's copyright even filed a 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: criminal complaint asking the Mexican government to investigate the fines 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: and to ultimately try to block the book's publication. So 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking a little bit more about how 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: this situation has turned out in the second part of 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: this two part podcast, but for now, we want to 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: consider why are so many people convinced that the material 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: is fake in the first place, especially since scientific testing 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: has dated it to Kala's lifetime and a handwriting expert 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: says that the writing in the letters does match kolos 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: so Yabrov's article goes a little bit into the process 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: of art authentication, which is really interesting, and she discusses 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: how experts will often base their opinions regarding the works 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: authenticity on whether it feels like something the artists would do, or, 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: in the case of letters, whether it just sounds like 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: something here. She would say, so, that sounds pretty inexact, 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: but at least in Colo's case, there might be something 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: to these sort of touchy feely verdicts because her works 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: are so much about her. I mean, of about a 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: hundred and forty three authenticated paintings, fifty five of those 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: or self portraits. So, of course all of this attention 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: is also partly because Frieda's work is just so high 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: they acclaimed, and she's even developed kind of a cult 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: following over the past couple of decades. Freedom maniacs, as 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Stephanie Mensmer calls Calo fans, and an article for The 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Washington Monthly seemed to be at least as interested in 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Kolo's life story as they are in her art. You 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: know all the details and interesting facts about her. In fact, 57 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Mensimers suggests that this is why die hard feminists don't 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: really celebrate Kolo that much, which I find to be 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: really interesting. And it's because some of her feel some 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: of them feel that her fame isn't really related to 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: her work. So in this episode, we want to take 62 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a look at that life story that so many people 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: are drawn to. It's one that involves politics and even 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: a touch of glamour and a tumultuous love story. After 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: we did the Brownings episode, a lot of people were 66 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: requesting more love. Yes, so here it is. And um 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: probably the part that touches people the most just Freeda's 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: pain and suffering. It's a major part of her personality. 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: So pain was something that Frieda Callo learned about pretty 70 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: early on, even though she started out in a fairly 71 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: happy situation. She was born Magdalena Carmen Frieda calo E 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Calderon on July six, nineteen o seven, and she was 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: the third of four daughters, so she came from a 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: mixed ancestry, to which must have made her stand out 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: a little bit growing up. Yeah, her father was Guier 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Moo Callo, a German jew who had immigrated to Mexico 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety one, and her mother was Matilda Calderon, 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: a Mexican Catholic whose heritage was a mix of both 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Indian and Spanish, and according to an article by Phillis 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Tukman in The Smithsonian, Frieda's father really just adored her. 81 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: She was his favorite of all his daughters, and he 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: found her to be very smart and very much like him, 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: and she doated on him in return. And her relationship 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: with her mother, though was a little bit more contentious. 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Frieda seemed to admire her mom. She thought that she 86 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: was smart, but sometimes she thought that her mom could 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: be a little too fanatically religious and also cruel free 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: to herself though, was a fairly obedient child, but she 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: did have quite the quick temper, so the Calo called 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: her own. Family lived in a house known as Casa 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Azul or Blue House, which her father had built in 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: Koya Khan, an area outside of Mexico City. And it's 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: significant to know this because it's a place that Frieda 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: would come back to throughout her life. So she had 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: her first real experience with adversity at only aged six, 96 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: when she contracted polio. We've of course done an episode 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: on that, so you can, you know, get a better 98 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: picture of what that would have been like for her 99 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: and her family by listening to that old episode. Frieda 100 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: of course survived, but after her bout with polio, her 101 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: right leg was thinner than her left and her right 102 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: foot was also stunted. But she really didn't let that 103 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: beat her, didn't let it stop her in any way. No, 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: she didn't. She maybe to prove that her disabilities couldn't 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: keep her down. She became a total tomboy. She played 106 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: sports such as soccer, She did boxing, wrestling, swimming, and 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: she would run around with the boys from her school 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: instead of learning to clean and cook at home like 109 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the other girls might have been doing. She was also 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: exposed to art pretty early on. Her father was a photographer, 111 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: and he taught her some of the tricks of his trade, 112 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: including how to retouch photos, and Frieda also took drawing 113 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: lessons from one of her father's pals when she was 114 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: growing up. So when she was fifteen years old, she 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: started at the elite National Preparatory School in Mexico City, 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: and at that time she was really one of only 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: a few females studying there. And he might, of course 118 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: expect free to college to have been studying art or 119 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: something like that. But she was taking science courses like 120 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: anatomy and biology because her ultimate goal was to become 121 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: a doctor. And of course the things she learned in 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: these classes, you know, anatomy and biology, might have really 123 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: informed her artwork later on and made her pieces more 124 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: realistic when it came to human anatomy, that sort of thing. 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: She was at school when she met d a. Go Rivera, 126 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: a man who, as we mentioned, plays a major role 127 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: later on in her life story. Now Rivera, just to 128 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: give you a little bit of quick background on him. 129 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: He was a Mexican born also Mexican born like Frieda, 130 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and about twenty years her senior. He started drawing and 131 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: studying art at an early age, and by nineteen oh 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: seven he'd moved to Europe to study the great masters 133 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: like Gogan and Matisset, but he was still searching for 134 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: something new, a different style of painting that would allow 135 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: him to reach a wide audience and really express his 136 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: take on what was going on in the world. So 137 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: he returned to Mexico and by nineteen twenty one he 138 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: was painting a series of public murals as part of 139 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: a government program, and these murals reflected his thoughts about 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Mexico and its history and its people. And that's what 141 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: he was doing when he met Frieda for the first time. 142 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: He was painting, painting a mural in her school's auditorium, 143 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: and apparently Colo would play pranks on him while he 144 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: was working, things like stealing his lunch, and she would 145 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: put soap on the steps next to where he was working. 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: And you just think of them as this dignified adult cover. 147 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine these childish pranks of hers. But 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: she was supposedly known for having this great sense of 149 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: humor and for being quite the trickster. So according to 150 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Tukman's article in Rivera's autobiography, he recalls seeing Frieda for 151 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: the first time when he was painting one night. He said, quote, 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the door flew open, and a 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: girl who seemed to be no more than ten or 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: twelve was propelled inside. She had unusual dignity and self assurance, 155 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: and there was a strange fire in her eyes. So 156 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: apparently this older, worldly muralist actually noticed Frieda, even though 157 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: she was only sixteen at the time. But as far 158 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: as we can tell, nothing really happened between them. They 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't get to know each other at this point, so 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Frieda really seemed to be caught up in her studies 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: and her friends. And she had a boyfriend tu named 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Alejandro Gomez Arias. And in nine one of the major 163 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: events of her life happens, and she's actually with her boyfriend. 164 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: When it happened, she was eighteen years old and they 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: were riding home from school one day when a trolley 166 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: car crashed into their bus, and in the accident, a 167 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: metal handraill broke off and stabbed Frieda's body, basically going 168 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: into her abdomen and exiting through her vagina. When it 169 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: was all said and done, her spinal column was broken 170 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: in three places, her collar bone, some ribs, and her 171 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: pelvis were all broken, and then her right leg, the 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: one that had already been affected by polio, was broken 173 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: in eleven places. Her right foot was dislocated and crashed, 174 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of people died in this crash. I mean, 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: you can imagine if her injuries were that bad, and 176 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: initially doctors thought that Frieda wouldn't survive either. She had 177 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: an operation, she was in the hospital for about a 178 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: month and then finally she got to go home, but 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: her recovery process after that was still a long long 180 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: time and quite painful to it was not at all 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: comfortable at lessoned for months, and she had to spend 182 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: the whole time encased in these plaster courses, basically like 183 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: a body cast. Obviously, she couldn't go back to school 184 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: while she was in that state, so that is when 185 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: she started painting. The way she described it, she started 186 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: painting quote without giving it any particular thought. It was 187 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: just sort of something for her to do to pass 188 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the time. And she basically taught herself. I mean she did, 189 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: as we mentioned wed, she'd had those drawing lessons and everything, 190 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: but this was kind of her foray into painting, and 191 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: she did it from her sick bed. Her mom had 192 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: a special easel rigged up for her and had a 193 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: mirror attached to the underside of her beds canopy. And 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: so that's how her self portraits started. And of course 195 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Frieda hadn't been to Europe to practice art and to 196 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: study the masters as Rivera had, but she must have 197 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: had some knowledge of them because she would incorporate little 198 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: bits of their styles into her own paintings. Again, according 199 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: to Tukman's article, she gave her boyfriend a painting of 200 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: herself that showed her with a swan like neck and 201 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: tapered fingers, and she called it your bought of Chili. 202 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: It's really easy to imagine her in bed, staring at 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: this mirror all day, every day for months and trying 204 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: to heal. And it's also easy to imagine that that 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: would lead to a lot of introspection. And it seemed 206 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that during this time, Frieda really started to see herself differently, 207 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: or at least noticed some fundamental changes about herself. She 208 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: wrote in a letter quote, I was a child who 209 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: went about in a world of colors. My friends, my 210 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: companions became women. Slowly I became old in instance. And 211 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: maybe it was partially a result of seeing this change 212 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: in herself. But as she recovered, Frieda, who had always 213 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: had sort of a leftist streak, began to get more 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: interested in Mexican politics. She struck up a friendship with 215 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: Tina Bedotti, an Italian photographer who was a member of 216 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: the Communist Party, and she ended up joining the Communist 217 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Party herself. According to PBS, freed To actually started telling 218 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: people that her birthday was July six, nineteen ten, rather 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: than ninet seven, So that's why you might see some 220 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: discrepancies in her birthday if you're researching her on your own. 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: And she probably chose that year because it coincided with 222 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: the outbreak of the Mexican Revolution, so you can see 223 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: how much she how ardent she was about her political beliefs, 224 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: and how much she kind of internalized those. So of 225 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: course Frieda's entrance into the political world also reformed some 226 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: old connections. So an acquaintance from Frieda's past also happened 227 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: to be Communist, and that was of course the muralist Rivera, 228 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: and that was sort of what his working with murals 229 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: was all about in the first place. It was a 230 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: rejection of elite diesel art and fancy galleries and museums 231 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: and the paintings that rich people would have in their 232 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: homes that weren't as accessible for everyday people. You know, 233 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: you have a mural in a public building, anybody can 234 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: see it. And um Rivera also became a leading proponent 235 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: of a post revolution nary movement called the Mexican and Dad, 236 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: which rejected Western European influences seen among the aristocracy for 237 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: all things considered authentically Mexican. So kind of like air 238 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: quotes there and then running in the same political circles. 239 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps it was only inevitable that Rivera and Frieda would 240 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: of course cross paths again, especially if she had made 241 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: such an impression on him the first go round. And 242 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: this meeting or re meeting probably happened at a party 243 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: given by Frida's friend Medoti, who we mentioned in Night. 244 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: This time, though, when Rivera and Freedom met, the two 245 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: did start up a romantic relationship. By all accounts, they 246 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: were truly the odd couple, at least as far as 247 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: their appearances were concerned. He was six ft tall and 248 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds and really kind of awkward looking, and 249 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: she was ninety eight pounds and five ft three, so 250 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: very small and also considered quite pretty. And we've already 251 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: mentioned the twenty one year age difference between them, so 252 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: that was a big thing too. Even more if you 253 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: go off of Frieda's fake birthday, Yeah, that's true that 254 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: her fake age would have put them further apart. But 255 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: when Rivera started courting Frieda, she was still living at 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: her parents house, Casa Zul, and so he'd stopped by 257 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: under the ruse of critiquing her paintings. After all, he 258 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: was by this time, the most celebrated artist in Mexico 259 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: and she was still unknown, so it would make sense 260 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: that she would want his opinion and tips maybe on 261 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: her art. Their friends and family were skeptical of their relationship, 262 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't take long before Frieda would roll pretty 263 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: much head on into what she described as the second 264 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: accident of her life, which was her marriage to Rivera. 265 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: So that is it for this part of the podcast 266 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: on Frieda Callo. But next time we're gonna give you 267 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more on this accident number two that 268 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: we just mentioned, Diego and Frieda's travels into America, their 269 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: tumultuous love, and of course Frieda's art. We're going to 270 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about those portraits we've been 271 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: mentioning those eyebrows. I'm sure you all want to go 272 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: and talking about the eyebrows, yes, And we'll also talk 273 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: more about the controversy of the recent free to call 274 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: of fines. So with that, I think we will go 275 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: ahead and move on to listener mail. Well, we haven't 276 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: done too much listener mail in a while, so I 277 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: think we're going to read a few emails this time 278 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to make up for it. The first one is from 279 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: listener Jill, and she says, hello, ladies. I just made 280 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: a trip to Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky. On 281 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: the historic tour, visitors get to see booths Amphitheater, which 282 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: is a large platform close to the top of the 283 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: cave that looks out over a huge open part of 284 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: the tunnel. The ranger recounted how the actor Edwin Booth 285 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: once performed Hamlet from the platform to large crowds below. 286 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: He also told the story of how one Booth killed 287 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: the Lincoln and another save to Lincoln. Coincidentally, I listened 288 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: to the Booth Conspiracy episode on the way home from 289 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the trip, which is so cool. I love the idea 290 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: of getting to see Booth at Mammoth Cave for forming 291 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: his signature role of Hamlet. Imagine when he picks up 292 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: the skull or something from a cave. For been there 293 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: but I haven't either, but it sounds like a cool 294 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: place to see a play. Actually, so, we got a 295 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: lot of mail about the Booth Conspiracy episode. Actually I 296 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of figured we did. We would get a lot 297 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: of mail because there are so many Lincoln fans out there. 298 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: But I wanted to share one interesting point that a 299 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: listener Patrick wrote in to share with us. He said 300 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Booth wanted to kill General Grant, as you may know, 301 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: but as everyone knows, he did not attend the play 302 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: or Booth did not come up with a plan for 303 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the event. Uh. The interesting reason why why then rants 304 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: did not attend is that Julia Dent wanted to see 305 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: her children and leave Washington as soon as possible that afternoon, 306 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: and that's what Grant told Lincoln. But more interestingly, many 307 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: believed Julia did not care for Mary Todd Lincoln and 308 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: did not want to attend the play with her. I 309 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of had wondered about that. They went through a 310 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: few theater guest invitations before where they finally settled on 311 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: their port engaged couple. Um, and it seems like, you know, 312 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: people would be happened to go to a play with Lincoln. 313 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I would jump the chance to go to a play 314 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: with the President and his wife. Yeah, I mean it 315 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: sounds like a sounds like it would be an opportunity 316 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: of a lifetime, although clearly things didn't go as planned. 317 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Now we're going to switch gears just a little bit 318 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: and getting our way back machine because we have a 319 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: listener mail here a very recent one from last week, 320 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: but it is about an episode that we did a 321 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: year ago on Paul Morphy, Chess Champion. And it's from 322 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Sarah in New Orleans, and she says, I'm a longtime listener, 323 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: first time writer, inner, and a local TV producer here 324 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. When y'all did your Paul Morphy podcast 325 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: back in June, I was completely surprised and delighted to 326 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: hear that arguably the greatest chess player in the whole 327 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: world hailed from right here in New Orleans. Anyway, y'all 328 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: inspired me to do a short package for our five 329 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: PM news about Paul Morphy. I figured that a lot 330 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: of New Orleaning is, like myself, had no idea who 331 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: he was, and I wanted to spread the word. In 332 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: doing the research, I discovered lots of cool things about 333 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Paul Morphy and things that maybe y'all didn't get to mention. 334 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: The way I see it, he was kind of the 335 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: forest scump of the nineteenth century New Orleans, being that 336 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: he managed to cross paths with more than a few 337 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: major historical people in icons. For example, he was born 338 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: in the house that PGT. Beauregard, a major general of 339 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: the Civil War Confederacy later lived in. At nine, he 340 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: defeated Winfield Scott at chess three times in a row, 341 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: and later he lived in and died in the house 342 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: that is now Brennan's restaurant, arguably the most famous and 343 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: iconic restaurant in New Orleans. And she sent us a link. 344 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll post it on Facebook or something so you 345 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: guys can check out her package that she put together. 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: It's two minutes long. And um, thanks for writing and Sarah, 347 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: it's really cool to know that are telling this story 348 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: inspired other people to tell this story. Yeah, I liked 349 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: her segment to it featured a chess teacher in New 350 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: Orleans and a couple of boys who were who are 351 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: learning the art of chess, just like pal Morphy would 352 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: have um many many years ago. And she said she 353 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: might learn to play chess from that chess teacher that 354 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: she interviewed, same aspiration after we did the Palm Morphy 355 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: episode that it didn't quite play out. Yeah, playing chests 356 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: for me is like knitting. It's one of those things 357 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: that I learned to do. I've learned to do multiple 358 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: times over the course of my lifetime that continue to 359 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: drop it. Yes, exactly. It's a phase that I get 360 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: into for a couple of weeks and then I fall 361 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: out of it, So maybe I'll take it up again someday. 362 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: So thank you all for writing in sharing so much 363 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: stuff about the Lincoln assassination. And yeah, you can always 364 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: email us about really old episodes too. We like to 365 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: hear things like you've produced a news segment based on 366 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: a podcast. That's pretty cool. So we are at History 367 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: Podcast at Discovery dot com. 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