1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: It's time to catch a Cheater. Only on the Tubile Show. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Kim is on the phone today for to catch a cheater. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: She's been with her husband Rob for four years, but 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: now she thinks something might be going on. So in 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: a few minutes, we're going to call and see if 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: we can catch him if he is cheating, but hopefully 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: he's not. Kim, what's going on? Why do you think 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Bob might be cheating on you? 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Basically, when we met, we met at a time. 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: When we were just kind of done with the. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Whole dating scene. Bob had actually been married before before 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: we met. They separated amicably. They all still keep in touch. 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: You know. They had met at Berkeley and they both 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: were kind of like weird hippie types, so they clicked. Rob, 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: in his own words, is kind of like grown up 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: since then, and he's happy where he's at. We don't 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: really fight much at all, and he's never really been 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: the laundering eye type of guy. He still is very 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: loving and doting and after fourty years, like he still 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: treats me to romantic nights out and gives me gifts 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: and buys me flowers. That kind of feels a little 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: silly that I'm even calling. 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: But basically. 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: Rob's ex wife, Emily, like I said, they still talk 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: a little bit. We've met a few times. She's been 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: our wedding. She's wonderful kids. They have a son, but 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: he's grown and older, and nothing like trying them. 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Really together much, you know. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: And also with having a son, I understand there's going 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: to be co parenting, there's going to be conversations together, 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: and so that's not a problem with me. They are 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: on good terms and I appreciate that. I've never felt 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: threatened by his relationship with her until lately. So basically 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: the last three weeks, it seems like they've been talking 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: a lot more than usual. Again, not like a big deal, 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: but he's been secretive about it, like when she calls, 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: he kind of leaves the room or text he'll like 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: get up and walk away. I've tried really hard not 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: to pry. He's a drama free kind of guy, so 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: he's very open and usually shares everything with me. So 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: I thought it was weird that he was kind of 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: sneaking away sim if there's anything wrong, if there was 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: anything I could do to help him, you know, because 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: he seemed a little closed off and He just basically 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: responded like, don't worry, I'm handling things and left it 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: at that. So I don't know. I just want to 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: know if there's something I need to worry about, if 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: he's rekindling something with his ex, or maybe there's something more. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: I just don't know. That's something that's super vague, he says, 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm handling it. 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: It makes it sound like there's a problem. 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not like it was an emergency situation. 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: It just seems like I don't know. 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: They're having a conversation. 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: He doesn't want me to see it or hear it. 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: And that's Yeah, it's been four years and everything's been cool, 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: and now you're having concerns. That means something's changed. You'd 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: be surprising you like your birthday son. 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: The other thing is, like, you know, I said, she 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: and I are We're not close by any means we 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: know each other, but it would be weird that he 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: would plan. 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Something that'd be a strange person to plan your birthday. 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Went all right, well, well, yeah, plas I come back. 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: You already told us what a grocery store he's a 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: rewards card member at, so we'll call and pretend to 67 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: be from the grocery store and say that every single month, 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: we choose one random Rewards card member who gets free 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: flowers delivered from our florial department, and we'll see if 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: he sends them to you or to somebody else. Okay, 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: sounds good, Thank you, I appreciate it. Plas on, come back, 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: get your to Catch a Cheater next. If you're just 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: joining us for today's to Catch a Cheater. Kim is 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: on the phone and she's been married to her husband, 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Bob for four years, but now she thinks he might 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: be cheating. So in a second, we're going to call 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: him and tend to be from the grocery store that 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: he's a Rewards card member at, and say that every 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: single month, we choose one rewards member who gets free 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: flowers delivered from our floral department, totally free, and see 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: if he believes us, and if he does, see who 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: sends him to if he sends him to his wife 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: or to someone else. So, Kim, before we do that, 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation. 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband and husband, Bob and I have been 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: married for four years. He was previously married to his 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: ex wife, Emily. They stayed in communication, but not much, 88 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: and lately he's been sneaking off to speak with her 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: and it's making me a question thing. 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you ready? First to Colin? Yeah, okay, 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: here we go. 92 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: Hello. 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Corbyn calling from So I was looking 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: for our Rewards card member named Bob. 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me, Bob. 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call. 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm actually calm to say congrats. Here this month's big winner. 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh what surprise or is there? Yeah? 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Every single month we choose one Rewards Card member to 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: say thank you very much for shopping with us and 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: being a loyal customer. You've just won thirty six long 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: stem red roses, a box of chocolates, and a card 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: to be delivered to anybody that you want within the 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: fifty United States. 105 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: Oh cool, awesome. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: I can take the information down over the phone. 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: I know. 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: Go, I'm going to send it. This I can tell 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: you over the phone. 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: So first I'll need the first and last name of 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: the person who likes to send them to. 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: Kim. Okay, same as mine. We're married. 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh, your this is your wife. 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: In my wife? Yeah? 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: Anything you want to put on a card. 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: Sure, I'll say I love you too, and we should talk. 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Well, I guess you can talk to her right now, 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: because Bob, this is actually the Jubile Show. It's the 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: radio show. My name is Jubil Hi. I'm Nina Hi, 120 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: and I'm Victoria and we do a segment on the 121 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: show called to Catch a Cheater where if you think 122 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: your significant other mind me messing around, you can try 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: to see what they send flowers to. And your wife, 124 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Kim is actually on the. 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: Phone, Taiba, see what's up? Why I'm a little bit 126 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: colls guard. Why did you set this up? 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, I am. 128 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: I wasn't really sure what else to do. 129 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like there's something going on with 130 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: Emily that you're not telling me. 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, are you? 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: I mean there's yeah. So I don't really want to 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: be doing this over the fun. But Emily, as I 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: told you, is still working in economic development to developing 136 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: programs around the US. She's obviously had a more lucrative 137 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: career than me, so the hippie stuff that we used 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: to do did not help me in the same way 139 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: as you have joked. She's an economic specialist, as I've 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: told you, But she recently started a new job at 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: the Peace Corps and she's being sent abroad to a 142 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: particularly dangerous place. But there is a good chance that 143 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: she won't come back. 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we've been communicating more than her we normally 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: do since the news of her relocation. 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean I believe that because I know you 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: did mention. 148 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: That she was working for the Peace Corps. 149 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: But I still don't understand why the sinking around. 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: So it's pretty sensitive information, Like she didn't ever want 151 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: to say what she's doing over there, and so she 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: wanted to meet me in person, and I suspected that 153 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: she wanted to tell me something other than just details 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: about the job. I suspected maybe she felt something for me, 155 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: and I was right. She said that she still loves 156 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: me very much, and I was clear about the fact 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: that I love my wife, you Kim. Last week we 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: talked for some time and she told me this. She 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: wanted to tell me in person before she left because 160 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: there's a solid chance that she never would see me again. 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: She told you that she still loves. 162 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: You, like she's just going to be working over there 163 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: and not coming back. 164 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: Like, what are you saying? 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, because this is kind of intense, like it's I 166 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: don't know, this is the conversation has changed. 167 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: It is really intense. I mean the nature of her 168 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: work over there and just the location. It's like incredibly dangerous. 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: So there is a so so of. 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: Course you say that you love somebody if you think 171 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: that this is going to be the end, right, I 172 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: don't understand. 173 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: But okay, I understand that I do. 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: But she expressed feelings for me and we did have sex. 175 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, whoa Okay. 176 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: I am really ashamed of it, and the it was 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: a mutual choice to do it. I regret it. I 178 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: think in the moment it felt like I might never 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: see this person again. 180 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Is that what you said you need to talk about 181 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: in the card? 182 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I've been planning to tell you today or 183 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: the next time we got a chance. I know we've 184 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: been in and out the last few days. I haven't 185 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: really called each other at a good time. 186 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: But I know I don't know a lot about the 187 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: Peace Corps. But is it normal for them to be 188 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: in places that are so dangerous that they're risking their 189 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: lives to this extreme? I thought sometimes or is this 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: her using this as a way to get to you 191 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: by saying that I'm not going to see you, because 192 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: that's also really disturbing. 193 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: I I kind of don't know what to say right now. 194 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Obviously we need to talk in person. Yeah, I just 195 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: think I'm sorry that we went about it this way. 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm going to probably come home right now 197 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: and we'll talk about them. 198 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: You're apologizing to him told you that he slept with 199 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: his ex wife, mostly. 200 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: To you guys in the listener right now that oh. 201 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Don't apologize us to go handle your business. I mean, 202 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: it's totally, totally, totally. I'm glad you found out, even 203 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: though it sounds like Bob was going to tell you anyway, 204 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: but you never know. 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry for a lot of reasons and a 206 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: lot of things, but I'm also sorry for you finding 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: out this way. But I'll be it. I'll be at home, okay, all. 208 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Right, Well, kim uh, let us know if we can 209 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: help in any way. 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you guys, thanks for having me on the show. 211 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: Hi, I appreciate it. 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry for all of the things. 213 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: Good luck, Thank you. 214 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: The Jubile shows to Catch a Cheater