1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. You're listening to the 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Balance of Power podcast. Catch Just Live weekdays at 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: noon Eastern on Appocarplay and then Proud Otto with the 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts, 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: or watch us live on YouTube. 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Politics Drive. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: A lot of conversations on this program, including one that 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 3: we're about to have Kaylee, following a ruling today by 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. They've been adding opinion days of a 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: lot of cases left. This one brings us to the 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: bump stock. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: Band Yeah, six to three ruling the Supreme Court effectively 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: gutting the ban on bump stocks that was put into 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: place during the Trump administration after the Las Vegas shooting 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: in October of twenty seventeen that killed six sixty people 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: wounded hundreds more, the deadliest mass shooting still in modern 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: American history. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: That's right. 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: That's why we're glad to spend some time with Congresswoman 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: Dina Titus, who represents Nevada's first district and had a 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: visceral reaction to this ruling earlier. Congresswoman, Welcome to Bloomberg 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: TV and Radio. We appreciate the time you're giving us today. 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: You tweeted following this ruling, the Supreme Court just got 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: it a year's long bump stock band. You call it terrifying, 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: and you end your message with the line and angry 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: lawmaker is a motivated one. The fight is far from over. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: Will you provide a legislative answer to this ruling today? 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I already have done that. 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 5: In fact, I first introduced the bill in twenty seventeen, 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 5: right after the shooting that was in my district, and 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 5: I brought it back every session since it has some 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 5: bipartisans support, and if it came to the floor, I 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: believe it would pass because the public opinion is so 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: in our favor. We predicted that the Supreme Court would 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: do this from the very minute that the ATF took action. 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 5: We knew somebody would sue. So the best way to 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: deal with the problem then and now is through legislation. 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: Well, Congressoman, as I noted, this did go into effect 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: during the Trump administration, and we know that Donald Trump 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 4: does have a close relationship with Congressional Republicans. We saw 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: that on full display here in Washington yesterday as he 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: met with Republican members of both the Senate and the House, 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: all of whom seemed to be for the most part 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 4: behind him. Is it actually Donald Trump who needs convincing 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: here to push for a legislative answer? 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: Well, I don't have any sway with Donald Trump, and 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: I don't think this is very high on his agenda. 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 5: And most of the Republicans have been in bed with 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: the NRA for such a long time that they resist this. 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: The ATF under Trump made this ruling to try to 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: circumvent legislation, probably knowing full well that it would be 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 5: struck down by the course. We knew it. I don't 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: know why they wouldn't know it, So it was a 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: symbolic gesture, and it's just taken this long to finally 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 5: have the truth come out. And in the meantime, we've 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: been trying to get that legislation passed so we wouldn't 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: be so to the ruling of this very conservative and 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: insensitive Supreme Court. 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: The shooting in Las Vegas in your district that brought 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: us to this point of having a bump stock ben 61 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: is still the largest, the deadliest in modern American history. Congresswoman, 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: what are you hearing from people in your district? 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Today. 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 5: Well, we've been working with some gun violence advocacy groups. 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: Moms Demand Action is very active in my district. They've 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: put crosses up on the site where the shooting occurred. 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: There's a lot of support, and in fact, Nevada legislature 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: passed above stock bill. Eleven states have done that as 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: well as the District of Columbia. Those laws won't be 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: affected by this decision because it was narrowly written just 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: on basis of a technicality, so those will still stand. 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: But that tells you something about how the people in 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: Nevada field, and Nevada is a wild West state with 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: a lot of people guns, but they know these aren't 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: for hunting or for four bump stocks are strictly for killing, 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: and that's what they do. 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: Well, Congressman, that really gets to the heart of the 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: question that was before the court, which is whether a 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: bump stock converts a semi automatic weapon into a machine gun. 80 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: The court today ruled that it doesn't. Would your constituents disagree. 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And look at the descending opinion. Just as 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: Sodermyer says, if it walks like a duck and it 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: talks like a duck, it's a duck. They looked at 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 5: some kind of pulling of one finger as opposed to 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 5: the overall function of the guns. Of the bump stock, 86 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 5: you attach it to a gun, it will allow you 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: to fire four hundred to eight hundred rounds in one minute. 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: Think of the people you can take out in one 89 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 5: minute with that many bullets. So it's very clearly a 90 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 5: transformation of a regular gun to an automatic gun that 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 5: machine guns we outlawed in the thirties. 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: There will be another Supreme Court decision come up on 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: whether certain that risk individuals should be able to apply 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: for a gun license, those who've been involved in domestic abuse. 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: Does this ruling today make you worry about the next Well, 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: I worry. 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 5: About everything that comes out of this Supreme Court frankly, 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 5: but yes it does. You know, there's a lot of 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: talk about we need to deal with the mental health problems, 100 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: keep guns out of the hands of people who can 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 5: do harm. It's not the gun, it's the person. And 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 5: yet here's a measure that does just that. We'll see 103 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: if they strike it down or not. Likely they will 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: because the NRA uses the argument knows under the tent 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: any little thing that we do, they say, attacks your 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: second Amendment rights. That's absolutely not true. I'm a gun owner. 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 5: I grew up in the South dead and went hunting 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: all the time till had two little girls who saw 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: bamby and that put an end to that. But we're 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 5: not trying to take away guns. We just want responsible 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: use of guns the way they're intended to be, for 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: sport or for. 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: All Right, Congresswoman, we appreciate you joining us today. That 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: is Democratic Representative Dina Titus of the first District of Nevada, 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: her district, of course, show, including the Las Vegas Strip 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: where we saw those events take place in October of 117 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. Perhaps not a surprising ruling from the Supreme 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: Court we got today with the six to three decision. 119 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: The Congresswoman herself said that she expected it, and yet 120 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: one that certainly is getting a lot of attention here 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: in Washington. 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: Two weeks of opinions left. 123 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: We've got a lot more in some big ones too, 124 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: including presidential immunity Kayleie, that we'll be talking about before 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: the end of this month. 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The billboards are out though, 142 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: after Donald Trump described the city in the key swing 143 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: state where his convention will be held next month as horrible. 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: That would be Milwaukee, The DNC is now launching billboards 145 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: in ten locations across beautiful Milwaukee featuring the president's former 146 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: presidents insults of the city that again will be home 147 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: to the RNC next month. Rick Davis is so us 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: this day after Seersucker Thursday, Bloomberg Politics contributor and Genie 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 3: Shanzano was back in the mix as well. 150 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Great to see you both. 151 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to our panelists on this Friday, Jeanie. I know 152 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: it's silly season here, but is this the strategy the 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: DNC wants to be pursuing for the next six months? 154 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 6: And I'm sorry I missed yoursucker Thursday. 155 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: You know that it was cool. 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 6: So much about yesterday was just a reminder of the 157 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 6: craziness that Donald Trump brings. Everything from him and Nancy 158 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 6: Pelosi potentially being together, to Hannibal Lecter to Taylor Swift. 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 6: I mean, this is what the man is talking about 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 6: his first time back in the Capitol Complex since January sixth. 161 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 6: And of course, the Milwaukee is horrible rings large. You know, 162 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 6: we saw the cover of the Milwaukee Sentinel Journal today. Yeah, 163 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 6: I suppose it's not the first time we have heard 164 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 6: a candidate or a presumptive nominee say something bad about 165 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: a swing state or a swing city. But yeah, the 166 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 6: Democrats are going to ride it through all its worth. 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 6: It's all we'll see when we go to Milwaukee. So 168 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: it should be a lot of fun. 169 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 170 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the front page of the Journal Sentinel. Rick, I'm 171 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: looking at it now in my terminal Trump, this big 172 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: bull head of Trump. 173 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: Milwaukee horrible. Now. 174 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: To be fair, the Trump campaign tried to clarify his 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: remarks and see he was talking about crime in the city. 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: He wasn't trying to insult the city. But Rick, you've 177 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: run conventions before. Is this the right way to roll 178 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 3: into Milwaukee? 179 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of tough on the Post Committee, who's 180 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 7: out there raising tens of millions of dollars to support 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 7: the Republican National Convention. You know, when your nominee, who 182 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 7: you're going to basically spend all this money celebrating, thinks 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 7: you've got a horrible city, you know. But I think 184 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 7: there's even bigger things at stake here. I mean, as 185 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 7: you mentioned, this is a battleground state. Every poll we've 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: in the last six months has basically called this thing 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 7: dead even And just as a reminder, Biden only won 188 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: this by twenty thousand votes in twenty twenty, so this 189 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 7: is one of the key states. Biden has to win 190 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 7: this state, we think, in order to win the presidency, 191 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 7: and Trump gives them a gift like this. I mean, 192 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 7: they can explain all day long what they want, but 193 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 7: these billboards are going to remind people that he called 194 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 7: our city horrible. I mean, Spinach is horrible. How can 195 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 7: a city be horrible? That's such over the top. 196 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: All right, so this is too good. 197 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: Producer James answers, the call Biden Harris campaign is already 198 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: up with not a horrible city T shirt. You've got 199 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: the map of the state here thirty two dollars, by 200 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: the way, and the coozies are in. 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Look at this. 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: I love Milwaukee coozies with the mug of beer Genie. 203 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: I guess we've already answered the question. This is how 204 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: you respond if you're the DNC. 205 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 5: Oh it is. 206 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 6: And I want to tell Rick Popeye is not going 207 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: to be happy. Spinach is not horrible. It's very healthy 208 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 6: and very good, as is Milwaukee a beautiful city. 209 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: You know. 210 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 6: But it was it was comical to hear the Republicans 211 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 6: come out of this meeting and every Wisconsin Republican was saying, well, 212 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 6: he didn't say it, well he said it, but he 213 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 6: was talking about crime or you know. It was this 214 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 6: back and forth, you know, as if he was your 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 6: crazy Grandpa at Thanksgiving dinner who just was tired and 216 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 6: drank too much and was just you know, going on 217 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: and on, and they were held responsible for what he 218 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: was saying. And of course, the reality is is that 219 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: this is what we are going to be faced with 220 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 6: for the next rest of this campaign and if he wins, 221 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 6: for the next five years. And this is a gift 222 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: to the Democrats, not just this statement in Milwaukee, but 223 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: the fact that Trump is back, and Trump is back 224 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: being trunk. And while this gets his base gin and 225 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 6: people laugh, there are a big coalition of people who 226 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: are saying, the man goes back to Capitol Hill and 227 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 6: talks about Hannibal Lecter not being so bad because he 228 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 6: invited a friend. I don't even know what that means 229 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 6: beyond the you know, it's it's reminiscent of the sharks 230 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 6: in Arizona the other day. This is what we're in Stofford. 231 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: Do we really want to turn over the nuclear codes 232 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 6: to him? And that is a big problem for Republicans 233 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 6: and the Trump campaign. So Democrats say, go at it, 234 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 6: keep talking Donald, because it's not good. He was better 235 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 6: off Twitter, in his contained bubble of you know, social media, 236 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: where nobody sort of paid attention to every little thing 237 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: he was saying. But he's back now, wow. 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 239 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: Five of the ten billboards will feature Donald Trump's remarks 240 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: in full quote Milwaukee, where we're having our convention, is 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: a horrible city unquote. The other five billboards will include 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: the tweet from Jake Sherman at punch Bowl with the 243 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: siren and including that same line. I don't know, get 244 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: your koozies and T shirts now. All I know, Rick 245 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: is there's a debate coming, and this is serious business. 246 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: We can fool around with T shirts and coozies all day, 247 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: but the clock is ticking here, and Joe Biden is 248 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: going to be in three different time zones over the 249 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: course of this two week period. He was in France 250 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: last week, is in Italy today. He's got to get 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: him a red eyre Well. I guess that's on Air 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: Force one fly overnight to California for the big fundraiser 253 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: with George Clooney this week, and he's on other stuff 254 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: next week. Would you need to take the president in 255 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: this case or your candidate aside and say, sir, it's 256 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: time to start preparing for the debate. 257 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is really troubling the schedule that they're putting 258 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 7: Joe Biden in, and I'd say even beyond the debate, 259 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: just his own ability to perform at a high level 260 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 7: is really being I think put in danger. I mean, 261 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 7: two trips to your Europe in a month, back and forth. 262 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 7: Why wouldn't you just stay over there, do a little 263 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 7: gardening and somebody's placed in Germany and hang out for 264 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 7: a while and recover from one big event to another. 265 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 7: And now they're going to put him on a whirlwind 266 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 7: back and forth across the country in order to get 267 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 7: him ready for a debate. 268 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: I really think. 269 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 7: I mean, I've now been through debates since Roma Reagan's 270 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 7: nineteen eighty debate and virtually every Republican president since then, 271 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 7: and the one thing you've got to do is be rested. 272 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 7: You have to be fresh, You have to be able 273 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 7: to sit and think. And usually that goes along with 274 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 7: a pretty aggressive debate prep sessions that have to be 275 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 7: built into the schedule, and incumbent presence always made the mistake, Oh, 276 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 7: every day on my job is debate prep. 277 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 8: That's bunk. 278 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 7: It's not debate prep. You're doing your day job. And 279 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 7: usually the president in power for the first term has 280 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 7: a horrible first debate, and we can go through them all. 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 7: I mean, they're like legendary and I've cried through every 282 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 7: one of. 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 8: Them, and so like, I think these guys have to 284 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 8: wake up in the White House and realize that their 285 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 8: candidate's going to be tired and he's not going to 286 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 8: be prepared and they should not expect him to do well. 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 7: And the whole idea was this was this wild card 288 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 7: debate that he had to do well in. 289 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Genie, it's less than two weeks away. Are 290 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: you getting nervous here? 291 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this would be a lot to ask for 292 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: a twenty year old to be doing all of this 293 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: travel right now. I realize they've set aside some time 294 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: at camp David. I guess in that week before the debate, 295 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: is that enough? 296 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: You know? 297 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 6: The reality is is that Joe Biden has debated Donald 298 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 6: Trump before. He's prepped for two debates with him. So 299 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 6: there is that reality. It is curious to me because 300 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 6: of course Biden's camp chose this time. They knew there 301 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 6: was going to be a G seven, they knew there 302 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 6: was going to be the normandy. Those are both important. 303 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: They have this fundraiser this weekend, so they chose this. 304 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 6: You know, what we can say is expectations of Joe 305 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: Biden couldn't be lower. I mean, if he comes out 306 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: in his mildly conscious and able to, you know, say 307 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: basic things, I think it's going to be a win 308 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: at this point. But you look at the other side. 309 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 6: You have Jason Miller out there saying Donald Trump doesn't 310 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: need any prep. He's not going to be need to 311 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 6: be programmed by staff. He's going to demonstrate elite stamina 312 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: like he doesn't the rallies, I mean, they are going 313 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: on and on about how Donald Trump has this thing 314 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 6: wrapped up, no prep. You know, expectations will be bet 315 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 6: and so, you know, I think the other side of 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 6: this is going to be fascinating as well, considering we 317 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: basically are looking at an incumbent on incumbent debate and 318 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: so I'm not sure Donald Trump is any more prepared 319 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 6: for this than Joe Biden is. And last time around, 320 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 6: Donald Trump was very, very office rocker, and Joe Biden 321 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 6: had a pretty good performance. And I don't know that 322 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 6: that won the election for him, but it certainly helped 323 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: him in the polls. 324 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: Elite stamina I think I saw that stuff at seven eleven. 325 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Rick. 326 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: Is this a traditional murder board, as you guys call it. 327 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: Do you put the incumbent in a room at a 328 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: podium and somebody else is playing Donald Trump? Or is 329 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: Joe Biden beyond that? 330 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 7: Nobody's beyond that. And if Joe Biden thinks he is 331 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 7: beyond it or that by debating Donald Trump twice and 332 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 7: arguably winning because Donald Trump lost it somehow prepares him 333 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 7: for this, It's all nuts. These are all circumstantial. Everything 334 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 7: has changed since twenty twenty. And if he doesn't think so. 335 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: Look at his approval rating. 336 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 7: You know, he's at thirty nine to forty percent and 337 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 7: he was at fifty four percent and twenty twenty. Joe 338 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 7: Biden doesn't have anything to give back to the field. 339 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 7: And so yeah, I mean, why in the world would 340 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 7: you not have somebody who's going to perform the antics 341 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 7: that Donald Trump will perform on the debate stage standing 342 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 7: next to next to Biden. And the thing you have 343 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 7: to worry about Joe Biden right now, because we've seen 344 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 7: the quick temperate lately, is him losing his cool? You know, 345 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 7: Donald Trump, I'm sure is going to get up there 346 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 7: and try and get the guy to go after him 347 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 7: and talk about non presidential, talk about outside your comfort zone. 348 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 7: Last thing you want is dark Brandon showing up on 349 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 7: the stage. 350 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: Well, what's he gonna have to do with triple gainer 351 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: when he comes out here to prove to everybody that 352 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: he's not too old for this genie? I mean, I 353 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: do I wonder where the bar is for both of them. 354 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is suggesting they be drug tested because he 355 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: thinks they gave Joe Biden something for the State of 356 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: the Union. And I do wonder what does Joe Biden 357 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: do if Donald Trump, to rix point pulls you know 358 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: a classic What if he shows. 359 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Up a half an hour late just to psych him. 360 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 6: Ount he could do anything. It's Donald Trump. I'm still 361 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 6: wondering if he shows up at all, given that there's 362 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 6: no audience. But you know, we'll have to see. But 363 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 6: you know, for Joe Biden, he does know how to 364 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 6: handle this. Does he need debate prep? Absolutely? Does he 365 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 6: need rest? Absolutely? I think a week is enough. But 366 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 6: you know, we'll have to see. But don't forget Donald 367 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: Trump also has to perform, right, This is not all 368 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 6: about Joe Biden and Donald Trump has to perform, and 369 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 6: he can't perform the way he did quite frankly yesterday 370 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 6: in the House talking about Taylor Swift, Hannibal Lecter, Nancy 371 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 6: Pelosi and him being a good item. I mean, this 372 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: is craziness. And if that is the Trump that shows up, 373 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 6: that is more of a problem, I think than Joe 374 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 6: Biden having less, you know, stamina than people might imagine. 375 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 6: The bar is low for Joe Biden. People don't hate him, 376 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 6: they don't think he's crazy. They just think he's old 377 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 6: and he is old. Donald Trump, they think is crazy 378 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 6: and potentially dangerous. So he can't bring that Donald Trump 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 6: to the show. 380 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't don't even know what to say. 381 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: She's not a Hannibal elector fan. Geenie Shanzino and Rick Davis. 382 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Balance of Power podcast. 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As Joe Biden wraps things up at 388 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: the G seven in Italy a bit later on today. 389 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: This is the last big day of the confat before 390 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: he comes back to Washington, knowing that there's been a 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: lot of discussion, not only about Ukraine, and we spent 392 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: a lot of time on this yesterday, this new security 393 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: deal between the US and Ukraine. We brought you Joe 394 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: Biden's bilateral news conference with President Zelenski. 395 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: But of course Israel came up. 396 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: I believe it was our own Josh Wingrove who went 397 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: there asking for an update on a cease fire, and 398 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: we didn't get too much of an answer on that. 399 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: With news today that things are not cooling off in Israel, 400 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: The New York Times reporting on this, and it's pretty 401 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: heavy duty, with strikes increasing in southern Gaza and now 402 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: new attacks against Hezbolah in Lebanon, and we've been talking 403 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: about the potential for a new front to the North, 404 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: if we can't already call it that, and not the 405 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: first time that we've discussed this with Michael Allen who 406 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: joins US now, I'm glad to say on our Friday edition, 407 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: managing director partner at Beacon Global Strategies, you spent time 408 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: as special assistant to the President's Senior director for Counter 409 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: proliferation Strategy, just the voice that we want now. It's 410 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: great to see you, welcome back, Thanks for reving. Are 411 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: we going to have a second war in Israel? We've 412 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 3: been waiting for something to break here with Hesbeala. It 413 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: sure feels like we're close. 414 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 9: I think we are. I was there a month ago, 415 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 9: and across the political spectrum in Israel they say our 416 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 9: psyche the way we are post October seventh, and even 417 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 9: after Iran took direct shots at us, we can no 418 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 9: longer rely solely on our military deterrent. We have to 419 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 9: look at the capability of our adversaries and then make 420 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 9: a judgment of whether we can live with that. And 421 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 9: Israel cannot live with another genocidal terrorist organization just over 422 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 9: their border. They're a small cun They can't forever have 423 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 9: an evacuated space where no one is Honestly, Israel's almost 424 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 9: been at war for the last eight months with Hesbela. 425 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 9: They hit them all the time, they do senior leaders constantly. 426 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 9: But I do think it's going to become a hotter 427 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 9: war as Gaza finishes. 428 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: The skirmishes or the shell across the border that we've 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: seen what does that mean then, because it's not the 430 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: first time that you've warned us about this. Yeah, what 431 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: does that mean for a potential ceasefire with Hamas? 432 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: You can't have both, can you? 433 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 9: I don't think you can have both. The Israelis, by 434 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 9: the way, don't want a two front war. I think 435 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 9: they would rather wrap up let's call it major combat 436 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 9: operations in Rafa and in Gaza. They'll always be there 437 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 9: forever more. I think in some limited fashion, I think 438 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 9: they want to get that done. They want to move forward. 439 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 9: President Biden and his administration are unalterably opposed to Israel 440 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 9: declaring war on Hesbala. So we're heading loggerheads again with 441 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 9: Israel about what the right thing for them. 442 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: To do is. 443 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: So we can where Joe Biden can take that ceasefire 444 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: proposal folded up and put it back in the drawer. 445 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 9: For now, it sounds like well, also, Hamas is just 446 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 9: saying no all the time. Now we can debate whether 447 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 9: Biden has been too anti Israel. So Hamas is hanging 448 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 9: back and saying, I'm going to get more of what 449 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 9: I want if I just wait. Because the world, including 450 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 9: Israel's best friend in the United States, isn't standing with them. 451 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 9: But also Hamas put forward twelve to fifteen other things 452 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 9: that they wanted out of a ceasefire deal, and I 453 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 9: think most of them were total nonstart. 454 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: What was to trap this idea of a permanent ceasefire? 455 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: Why not just deal with phase one six weeks because 456 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: Hamas says it's not signing anything unless it's permanent. It 457 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: Israel says it won't be permanent until the elimination of Hamas, 458 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: So what are we doing. 459 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 9: The only leverage I think Hamas has is the hostages, 460 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 9: and the more that they let go or the more 461 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 9: they get rescued, I think they think they lose leverage 462 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 9: and the only thing they want is a complete cessation 463 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 9: of hostilities. And they can read the newspapers Nanna who says, well, 464 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 9: no matter what we put forward in this agreement, we're 465 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 9: not going to be able to give up going after 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 9: Hamas if there's still a military force there. So I 467 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 9: think at the end of the day, that's what Senoar's 468 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 9: calculation is, which is I can't get everything I want, 469 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 9: so I'm not going to even start this process. 470 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: As we spend time with Michael Allen at Beacon Global, 471 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: strategies of the throws of a dangerous world and a 472 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: dangerous Middle East. Imagine Israel declares war against Hesbalah, what 473 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: happens to US Iranian relations, if I can even use 474 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: that term. 475 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 9: So I think the United States should try to get 476 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 9: a little tougher on Iran. They are making in what 477 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 9: for well, sanctions or at least to enforce the sanctions 478 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 9: that are already on the books that we're not currently 479 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 9: implementing or otherwise enforcing. I think that they have to 480 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 9: look to the head of the snake. It's Iran. They 481 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 9: need to put pressure on them, rather than always putting 482 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 9: only pressure on Israel. 483 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: To curb its hostilities. 484 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 9: It's got to be both sides of the equation if. 485 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: They want to have success. Well, boy, that's something. 486 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: And you wonder what Anthony Blinkoln thinks about that as 487 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: he continues shuttle diplomacy coming off his eighth trip. Now, 488 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: these have not been terribly effective. 489 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 9: They haven't. There is actually an alternative. There is a 490 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 9: diplomatic path in Lebanon. It's a guy named Almos Hawkstein. 491 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 9: He has been requested by the people in Lebanon to 492 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 9: come over to try and broker some sort of deal. 493 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: This is a senior advisor to senior advisor to Presdice 494 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: on this program before and always helped to shepherd the 495 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: energy policy at the Exactly, this is about relationships, as 496 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: your point. 497 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 9: Exactly, They've asked him to see if he can figure 498 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 9: out a way to get Hesbela to withdraw north of 499 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 9: the Latani River. That would give Israel more confidence at 500 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 9: least that the terrorist organization isn't going to run over 501 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 9: in the middle of the night and massacre everyone. 502 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. 503 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: So we go from Bill Burns, the head of the CIA, 504 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: to a presidential advisor. Is being able to turn the 505 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: key to some diplomatic solution. 506 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: Not the Secretary of State. 507 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 9: He Almos Hostein needs some backing. Though he can't just 508 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 9: solve this diplomatically all on his own. He needs some leverage, 509 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 9: and I think that means they have to go through 510 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 9: Tehran and not just wow television. 511 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Does that happen? 512 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 9: It's hard to see because I think there's what meetings 513 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 9: take place. Well, if you believe this Wall Street Journal 514 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 9: article from about ten days ago, the administration doesn't understandably 515 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 9: doesn't want any more problems in the Middle East. Before 516 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 9: the election doesn't want a regional escalation scenario, and they 517 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 9: asked the Europeans, according to the Wall Street Journal, to 518 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 9: not punish Iran for their new nuclear transgressions. So I 519 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 9: don't know that the administration is conditioned in this way 520 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 9: to think, let's put more pressure on Iran. But I 521 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 9: know it's not going to work. When I go to 522 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 9: Israel and I talk to everyone there, and everyone across 523 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 9: the political spectrum says we've got to do something about 524 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 9: Hesbelah before September. First, kids need to move back into 525 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 9: their communities, get back to school, and get back life 526 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 9: back to normal. 527 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: Well, if it does feel like we're on the verge 528 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: of something. Lastly, after what we heard from Joe Biden 529 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: yesterday speaking I think specifically to Patriot missile systems, but 530 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: maybe consider this even more broadly with our commitments to Ukraine. YEA, 531 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: does that slow weapons deliveries to Israel. He made it 532 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: clear that we will fulfill our obligations to Ukraine before 533 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: anything goes anywhere else. 534 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 9: So you have to go weapon system by weapon system, 535 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 9: and I think that we have a great relationship with 536 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 9: the Israelis on iron Dome. Iron Dome goes arrow and 537 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 9: the rest and uninterrupted, uninterrupted. We're working on that jointly. Patriots, though, 538 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 9: are in demand all over the globe, and we're trying 539 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 9: to get a bunch of Europeans, like the Spanish or 540 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 9: the Greeks to say, hey, you know what, maybe we 541 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 9: don't need these so badly and we ought to transfer 542 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 9: them to the Ukrainians. 543 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 3: Well, we also try to increase manufacturing capacity on these missiles. 544 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 9: Right, that's hard to do, Roger, I'm glad the NDAA 545 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 9: just passed. We need to rebuild the defense industrial base. 546 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what Raytheon can do about that. I 547 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: know that they're expanding down south as well. Beacon Global Strategies. 548 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: Michael Allen, what a Treat's good to see you. Safe 549 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: travels until we see you again. He's just about always 550 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: about to get on an airplane when we talked to him. 551 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm Joe, Matthew and Washington. Thanks for being with us here. 552 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: On the Friday edition of Balance of Powers, we turn 553 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: our attention to Capitol Hill. 554 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: What a day that was yesterday. 555 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: With Donald Trump making his return to the capital for 556 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: the first time since the January sixth attacks on the Capitol. 557 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: Spent time with lawmakers. He was feted by the House 558 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: and the Senate Republican lawmakers, and then spoke to the business. 559 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Community at the Business Roundtable. 560 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: We walked you through all of his movements yesterday across town, 561 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: and Zach Cohen joins us now with the view from 562 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: the Capitol Bloomberg Government Congress reporter, Zach, it's good to 563 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: see you. I wonder just the the broader impact of 564 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: what we saw yesterday shaking hands with Mitch McConnell. He 565 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 3: even got Mitt Romney in the room here. So it 566 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: does seem that the establishment on Capitol Hill is all 567 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: behind Trump now is that official? 568 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 10: It does seem like the majority of both House and 569 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 10: Senate Republicans, with a few notable exceptions, attended these meetings 570 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 10: that were just off of the Capitol Building and party 571 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 10: offices on Capitol Hill, and Trump was really fed it. It 572 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 10: sounds like in both situations they wished a happy birthday, 573 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 10: which I believe is today, And certainly no lack of 574 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 10: unity among these two parties or excuse me, among the 575 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 10: party as they head into the November elections, where both 576 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 10: the White House as well as Congress, both chambers will 577 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 10: be hotly contested and so you had people like Senator 578 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 10: Susan Collins, Lisa Brokowski, more moderate members who actually voted 579 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 10: to convict Trump and his impeachment trial after the January 580 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 10: sixth insurrection op not to attend. Romney himself initially thought 581 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 10: he wasn't going to make it, but it's like the 582 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 10: Palm Beach was canceled, he told a few of us, 583 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 10: and so did end up going as well. So a 584 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 10: good indication that Republicans are trying to rally around the 585 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 10: flag here, despite the federal convictions, despite the attempts to 586 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 10: overthrow the election, and despite in some states the really 587 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 10: difficult politics with Trump at the top of the ticket. 588 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's seventy eight years old today. 589 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: Huh, So the former president got a big birthday bash 590 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: here in Washington. Happy Flag Day, by the way, Zach, 591 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: I haven't said that to anyone yet. 592 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: You're writing about. 593 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: Some of the folks we saw gather around the President 594 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: when he spoke yesterday. I mean, he had half the 595 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: Republican Senate behind him at the NRSC standing at the podium, 596 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: none beaming more I would argue than jd Vance. But 597 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: as you write, Senator Marco Rubio jd Vance, Tim Scott, 598 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: all praised by Donald Trump yesterday, all three competing to 599 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: be his vice presidential candidate, his running mate in this race, 600 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: and Zach If it's any of these three, his choice 601 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: is going to have an interesting downstream effect on the Senate, 602 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: which is something you're writing about today. 603 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: What should we be bracing for? 604 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 10: Right And in that meeting, I have heard from some 605 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 10: sources that make of this what you will that Trump 606 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 10: ended up praising Tim Scott, the Republicans from South Carolina, 607 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 10: a little more effusively than Marco Rubio and JD. Vance, 608 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 10: who are two other Republican senators who are in contention 609 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 10: for the vice presidential nomination nomination. Trump has said that 610 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 10: he plans to make that announcement just in time for 611 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 10: Milwaukee when the Republicans meet there to formally nominate him 612 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 10: as their pick for president. And so we got a 613 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 10: little bit of color there. But I've been thinking more 614 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 10: ahead to next January. If in fact, one of these 615 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 10: three or four senators that are in contention becomes the 616 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 10: next vice president, that would create not just an opening 617 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 10: in their Senate seat, but potentially openings in Senate leadership. 618 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 10: Tim Scott, for instance, is currently the ranking member on 619 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 10: the Banking Committee with jurisdiction over Walls Street in the 620 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 10: financial industry more broadly, and if he ends up going 621 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 10: to the White House, then Senator Mike Browns from South Dakota, 622 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 10: which holds billions of dollars in trusts, he would take 623 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 10: over potentially that chairmanship the Committee if Republicans do flip 624 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 10: the majority, and so you could see a lot of 625 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 10: turnover not just in the White House but the Senate 626 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 10: depending on who this pick is. 627 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: It's pretty remarkable. 628 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: I love the Marco Rubio geography issue here, by the way, 629 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: is this real? Somebody's got to move right either. Donald Trump, 630 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: if he chose Marco Rubio, would have to make his 631 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: permanent address back in New York, and I guess he 632 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: could do that pretty easily, certainly on paper. 633 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: But Marco Rubio has even. 634 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: Suggested he might move out of Florida or would be 635 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: willing to to be Donald Trump's running mate, which is 636 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: more likely. 637 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 10: I mean unclear at this point. But yes, there is 638 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 10: this constitutional requirement that both the president and the vice 639 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 10: president on a national ticket can't be from the same 640 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 10: state and they can't contest and the votes in that 641 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 10: state if they are not, And I can't imagine Republicans 642 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 10: would give up the opportunity to win in Florida's electoral 643 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 10: College votes given how far the state has swung in 644 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 10: their direction in recent elections. There's actually some president on 645 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 10: that some of the mind in earlier today, then Governor 646 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 10: George Bush of Texas chose Dick Cheney as his running mate. 647 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 10: Cheney moved his official residence from Texas back to Wyoming 648 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 10: so that they would not conflict with that constitutional prerogative. 649 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 10: And so I do think the residential issue is one 650 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 10: that they would have to figure out if Rubio, who 651 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 10: is a telegenic rising star in the party for sure, 652 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 10: a former presidential candidate in his own right, if Trump 653 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 10: were to pick him, but Tim Scott Tom Cotton from 654 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 10: Arkansas in the mixed Doug Bergen, we hear a lot 655 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 10: about the North Dakota governor. So certainly it's not a 656 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 10: done deal yet. I think the residency issue for Rubio 657 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 10: is one they have to consider. 658 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: That's a big question about Senate leadership, which you've already 659 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: referred to. Interesting to see Donald Trump with Mitch McConnell. 660 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: They're not friends. Donald Trump has repeatedly insulted his wife, 661 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: and it was the first time that we saw these 662 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: two together since January sixth, But boy, it was all smiles. 663 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: Same of course for John Corner, who wants to have 664 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: the job. John Thune wants to have the job. Will 665 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: Donald Trump essentially call this if he wins reelection, who 666 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: the next Senate leader will be. 667 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 10: Well, McConnell steps down in November, Certainly a lot of 668 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 10: Republican senator is going to be wondering if Trump makes 669 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 10: an endorsement in that race, which he hasn't yet, that 670 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 10: would certainly sway a lot of their decision making. Now, 671 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 10: a lot of jockey has already happened behind the scenes. 672 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 10: You've got some senators that have already pledged that publicly 673 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 10: are privately to either as you mentioned John Cornyn from Texas, 674 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 10: a former party chairman, a former whip, John Thune from 675 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 10: South Dakota, there's another South Dakota senator for you. A 676 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 10: number of pledged their support to him, is what I've 677 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 10: been told so. And then there's Reck Scott from Florida, 678 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 10: who is clearly angling for a Trump endorsement. He actually 679 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 10: told me in Florida just a couple of weeks ago 680 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 10: that he's hoping Trump gets involved, but hasn't predicted that 681 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 10: would essentially be the case. Trump certainly has a lot 682 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 10: of influence on this party and among this conference. But 683 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 10: at the end of the day, this is an elections 684 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 10: this behind closed doors, on a secret ballot, and so 685 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 10: it's really hard to whip for anybody. And you're all 686 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 10: Trump's influence is certainly present here, I'm not sure it's determinative. 687 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 3: Always a treat to talk to Zach Cohen, our Friday 688 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 3: treat today from Bloomberg Government. 689 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Zach, it's great to see you. 690 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for listening to the Balance of Power podcast. 691 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already, at Apple, Spotify, 692 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts, and you can find 693 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: us live every weekday from Washington, DC at noontime Eastern 694 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 3: at Bloomberg dot com.