1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario, I cannot believe I am sitting here 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: recording my final episode of the year. Man, Where did 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four go? But I guess first of all, 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: I have to say thank you to you for tuning 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: in every single week and being part of this amazing 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: tribe that we've built and that we're continuing to build, 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: and just showing up. I really appreciate you, and you know, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: upon reflecting on this entire year, I have to say 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm super proud and grateful that this show came to be. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I was always craving long form interviews and conversation because 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: I think those are the moments that we really get 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: truth and reality right. It's different than a carpet where 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: you have two minutes with someone. I mean, I love 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: a carpet, don't get me wrong. But I was craving connection, 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and I think so many of us are craving connection. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: So I want to thank my guests for coming on 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable and open enough to yes, celebrate the 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: work that we love, but then to really have this 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: in depth, serious, heart to heart conversation, and we all 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: can pull something from what my guests share, which I 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: think is the most beautiful thing. It's that we're not 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: in this world alone. No matter how much success or 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: fame or money, or how perfect someone's life may seem, 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: guess what we all go through the same things. We 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: all feel the same, We are all humans. So I 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: hope if there's anything you get from the show, it's 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: that we all are cut from the same cloth. And 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of bringing that to this show. So 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: in honor of that, today I am celebrating six or 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: seven or eight moments that have stayed with me far 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: beyond the microphones, far beyond the conversation that I had. 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: These moments have stayed with me for most of the year, 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: and they all share something different about my guess, but 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: they're all something that I think, in some way, shape 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: or form, we can relate to. And if you can't 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: relate to it, it's a good reminder for us. So 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I hope you like these little pieces of wisdom I pulled. 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it's really great to go into a new 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: year reminding ourselves of some really important lessons, and this 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: is what I hope that you will remind yourself of 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: as you enter a new year. So thank you for 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: tuning in every single week. I love you guys, You've 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: become family. Let's revisit what some of my guests have 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: never said before. Okay, First up, we have Katerina Scorsone 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: from Grey's Anatomy, who talks so beautifully about grief. She 47 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: totally reframes what our relationship with grief should be, and 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: she says something so beautiful. She says, grief is the 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: process of reconciling with what is. Grief is something we 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: all feel, it's something we can't turn off. But through 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: her words, she really helps us navigate how to work 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: through the ups and downs of all the feelings that 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: come along with grief. So is there something that you've 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: learned a really amazing, incredible life lesson since starting the 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: show that has always kind of stuck with you? 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yes, So I think something that has been 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: coming to me, like in like Beautiful Waves especially. I mean, 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: obviously it accelerated during the pandemic, but you can see 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: it in Grays and through the twenty years of Grays 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know, my house burned 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: down like last January. 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm so sad to see that on social media when 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: you posted that. 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a super intense situation. But again, 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: like that happened, and then like in the aftermath, like 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: so much community came and like helped us rebuild our 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: lives and like brought toys for the kids and toothbrushes 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: and clothes and like it ended up being this really 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: beautiful regeneration. But it was kind of like the end 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: of like a kind of a chapter of like pandemic 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: and COVID and like all of this like intense you know, 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: world loss. And I think you see that in Grays 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: as well, Like through the twenty years, there's been so 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: much intense, intense tragedy. And I think that the way 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: people survive, and I don't mean survive, like even in 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: the pandemic, people died, but the spirit survives, it's by 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: learning how to create a positive relationship with grief. And 78 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: I talked about it at Paileafest, and that was kind 79 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: of the first time some of those words had come 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: out of my life, and it's really been refining in 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: my mind that that we kind of look I think 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: in American culture especially, we look at grief as something 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: terrible that we don't want to be near. But actually 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: grief is the process of reconciling with what is, and 85 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: what is in every moment is actually full of love 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: and life. And so as long as we haven't grieved, 87 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: we're in the past trying to experience something that's not 88 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: here anymore. So our experience is actually more hollow and 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: thin and not nourishing because we're over here and actually 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: life has become here. And so until we realize that 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: grief is our opportunity to like make out with reality, 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: which is here, we're not going to end up having 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: the full the full experience of our entitlement to our moment, right, 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: And so grief is beautiful. And the more we like 95 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: look at it with curiosity and like romance and go, okay, 96 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: what is left to grief? What am I still holding 97 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: on to that isn't real or isn't here now was 98 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: real and now there's this new reality. The more we're gonna, 99 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, get in touch with the vitalness that's 100 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: going to create an amazing now and a more grateful 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: future where you're looking at everything that actually still is 102 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: with like, holy cow, I can't believe I get to 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: like experience all of this like life, like I'm here 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: and I can see, and I can touch, and I 105 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: can love anyway. I think that I think grief is 106 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: kind of the key to life at this point, and 107 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: that's something that I think Gray's Anatomy teaches us over 108 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: and over again. 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Wow, I got chills with you saying that, because I 110 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: think we so often think of grief as this horrible 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: thing and it makes us sad and maybe makes us cry, 112 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: and we don't want to experience it, but we do, 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: and it can be really debilitating and make you not 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: want to maybe live in that moment because it hurts 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: so badly. But you're saying it's necessary to appreciate and 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: be present and live your life and it's. 117 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: Okay to grieve and not let that paralyze you. 118 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it also tells you, like what you cared 119 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: about if you're grieving, I mean, even like, give me 120 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: a small example. If you're grieving, you know, or like 121 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: a breakup, you get to find out that, like you 122 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: really were attached to the idea that life would look 123 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: like this, or you loved that person, or you love 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: that moment in your relationship or that time right, and 125 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: so you get in touch with your values because you're like, 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: oh God, that was so important to me that I'm 127 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: feeling this intense pain now because it's something I wanted 128 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: so much and it didn't go the way I wanted 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: it to. I feel so disappointed that it didn't that 130 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't get to have it now. But that's what 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: I value. So where is that in my now? And 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: what do I need to do to be around more 133 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: of that thing that I loved or loved so much 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: in mine now? 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: Wow? 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have me over here getting all 137 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: emotional about all of this. 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: That's Oh, that's powerful. 139 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: That's powerful because I think we all can relate to it, 140 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, well, that's that's amazing. And thank you 141 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: for reframing that in a way that makes it feel 142 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: okay and less scary and. 143 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: We don't beat ourselves up over it. 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: So I think that's a really cool perspective and an 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: interesting way to frame it. And I've never really heard 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: that before from anybody, so I appreciate you mentioning that. 147 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: In this clip with Oliver Stark, who of course stars 148 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: in nine one one, he talks about the importance of 149 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: nurturing friendships and he's at a point in his life 150 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: where he wants to form quality relationships and he realized 151 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have as many in his life right 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: now that he would like to because of work and 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: focusing all his attention on trying to get to where 154 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: he is in his life, which I think is really relatable. 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: Right. 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: We sometimes neglect the things that we love or the 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: relationships we want to form because we are so ego 158 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: eyed on that end goal. And hearing him talk about this, 159 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: especially as a man who wants brothers, as he says, 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: in his life to open up to, I think is 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: really powerful to a great reminder. So take a listen. 162 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: Okay, So kind of I guess on the same path 163 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: of what we were talking about earlier about in your 164 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: twenties and finding yourself. 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 5: And I guess maybe in some ways I'm going to 166 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: contradict myself because I said one of the things I'm 167 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: proud of myself for is committing to kind of life 168 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: outside of the job. 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: Right. 170 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this recently, and you know, one 171 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: thing I wish that I had been better at in 172 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: my life, and I think this is a thing that's 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: maybe important for certainly young men in their twenties is 174 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 5: I wish that I had committed more to like nurturing friendships. 175 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: Like I know a lot of people in my life, 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: but I don't know how many like friends I have 177 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: because I kind of just explain, Yeah, I don't know 178 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: if I put myself out there enough to keep friendships 179 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 5: alive and thriving. And so I know a lot of people, 180 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: but I don't know how many people. You know, maybe 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: not more than I could count on my fingers. Could 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: I like really go to with stuff? So I think 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: I think there was one thing that I could do 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: differently about the last I don't know, ten years of 185 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: my life. It would be to focus more on like 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: building friendships. And I think anybody that's kind of in 187 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 5: the early to mid twenties, I think, yeah, focus in 188 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: on that because those are the people that you're really 189 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: going to want to have around you and be able 190 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: to lean on. 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: M That's a really important point. 192 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: Is that something that is challenging to do now with 193 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: the job you have or you're kind of working on 194 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: that now, it is challenging. 195 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to do more of it. But it's also 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: it's like when you're in your late twenties or thirties, 197 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: so where do you meet new people unless you work 198 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: with them? 199 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: You know, like I'm not out going to bars every weekend, 200 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: and yeah, it's like, so where do you meet friends? 201 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's interesting. 202 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 5: So I hope to have the possibility to continue to 203 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 5: work on it, but yeah, I do. 204 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: It's something that I struggle with. 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for sharing that. 206 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important point, especially in this 207 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: day and age with social media and screens and tablets 208 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: and people living on their phones and devices and you know, 209 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: these replacing human interactions. 210 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: I think that's a really good. 211 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Reminder to continue making those quality connections right, quality. 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, that quality over corn. 213 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: This clip is with Breezy, who of course stars an 214 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: All American and I couldn't love this conversation more. It's 215 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: a reminder that there is no love like self love 216 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: and the importance of being good to ourselves. And I 217 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: think the big headline for me is you can't fill 218 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: other people's cup if you aren't able to fill your 219 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: own cup first. So for anyone out there who needs 220 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: a little reminder about the importance of loving yourself, this 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: one's for you. And I wrap up every episode with 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: a question based off the title of the show, And 223 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: that question is, what is one thing you've never said before. 224 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I know you've done a lot of interviews, you put 225 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: a lot out there. You have such a big heart, 226 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: so you do. You share a lot, But is there 227 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: something that you can think of that you haven't shared before. 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 6: I would say that I never shared the truth that 229 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 6: I have never loved myself properly. I've never said that. 230 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 6: I've never even said it out loud. This is my 231 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: first time saying it. It's always it's a it's a 232 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 6: about a year old thought and just to continue on 233 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 6: with what you do to take care of yourself and 234 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: mental health and things like that. Like that's what led 235 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 6: me to that figuring that out, the journey of loving 236 00:12:50,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 6: myself better and not being so accessible to everything and everybody, 237 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: you know, kind of just going inside and shutting the 238 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 6: door sometimes and just really taking care of yourself and 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 6: then going out when you're ready, you know, Like that's 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 6: the journey. I'm one now, So no, I've never I've 241 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: never I never said it one two, never admitted that 242 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 6: you know, or even new or acknowledged it. It's all 243 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 6: it's all new to me right now. But it's a 244 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 6: it's a part of my life that I'm dealing with now, 245 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 6: but that I'm also happy to share and knowing that 246 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 6: it's one of those things that I'm sure there's somebody 247 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 6: watching going through the same thing. 248 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: When was the moment where you realized that when you 249 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: when you thought, oh my god, I don't think I've 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: ever really loved myself? 251 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 6: I would say last year around what am I thinking of? 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 6: Maybe April May of last year. I just I woke 253 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 6: up one morning and I just looked in the mirror 254 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: and I just hated everything. Hated what was around me, 255 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 6: hated what my personal life was, the relationship I was in. 256 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 6: I didn't like any of it. And I was like, 257 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 6: what are you doing? Why are you doing it? What 258 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: part of all of these things that I'm now seeing 259 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: in the mirror in this one moment, what about all 260 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: these things are good for you? And none of it was? 261 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 6: And I was like, wow, Like it was just it 262 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: was sad, It was hurtful, It was painful, It was 263 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 6: a painful thing to get through. I would say that today, 264 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: you know, way further past that just heavy feeling of 265 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: it all than I was last year, but still gradually 266 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: working at it every single day. But it was just 267 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: it was just the realization that nothing I was doing 268 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: was for my benefit or for my good or was 269 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 6: filling my cup. For lack of bad. 270 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: Words, M and did you feel that most of your 271 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: life but suppressed that until it just you couldn't suppress 272 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: that any longer a year ago, Yeah. 273 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 6: I think that, you know. I just in that moment 274 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: I realized that my cup was empty. I just I 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: felt depleted in every way emotionally, mentally, physically. I was like, 276 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 6: what am I doing? What am I doing? And that 277 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 6: was a hard question I had to ask myself, and 278 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 6: the realization of everything around me that I mentioned it 279 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 6: was it was very hard to accept. But for some reason, 280 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 6: I was just like, I'm not doing any of it. 281 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 6: I don't have an explanation. I don't even know why. 282 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 6: I don't have nothing to talk about. I'm just not 283 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: doing it. And I have not looked back since that day. 284 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 6: So now I'm just like forward thinking, forward movement, only 285 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 6: if it's not And again I have my own stuff 286 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 6: that I'm still dealing with, but I'm not doing that anymore, 287 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And it absolutely has to 288 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 6: be beneficial to me, and I have to be able 289 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: to replenish myself and energize myself and make myself happy 290 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 6: and love myself, you know, at a certain level before 291 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: I expect somebody else to, you know. So that's what 292 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 6: I'm working on. 293 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: Now. 294 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing that you share that, because I think people 295 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: look at you and they say, she has success and 296 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: fame and hit show after hit show, and it's so 297 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: popular and has millions of social media followers. But you, 298 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, weren't happy right in 299 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: that you let me. 300 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: Take something happy. 301 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 6: What you just said was the hardest pill for me 302 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 6: to swallow because the perception of who I was or 303 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: who people think I am, even now you know what 304 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 6: I'm saying, had not matched my reality. So I also 305 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: felt like I can't even do that anymore. So if 306 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 6: I can't sit here and talk to you as a 307 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 6: friend and like be honest with you, then we actually 308 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: just can't have a conversation, you know what I mean. 309 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: So a lot of the oh my god, you're this, 310 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 6: and oh it's that, Oh my god, you did congratulate, 311 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: and I was like, I want to hear it, you know, 312 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: and it became like it just became uncomfortable you know, like, no, like, 313 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 6: how how do I go? How am I the person 314 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 6: that people look up to so much? People think I 315 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: got all the answers and I do all the things, 316 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 6: and I'm just the best of this and the best 317 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 6: of that. I'm like, I ain't shit, not like in 318 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: a crazy way, but I'm just like, you know, I'm 319 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: coming to all these realizations about myself and this is 320 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: the exact opposite of what people are thinking, you know, 321 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 6: about me. And I'm like, not that I don't possess 322 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 6: any of those things, but in totally in totality, I'm sorry, no, 323 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 6: you know, and the bad parts were outweighing the good, 324 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 6: and I'm like, I have to. I have to make 325 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: a change, you know. And I'm happy to share in 326 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 6: along my journey because I'm interested to see what part 327 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: of that helps people too, you know what I mean. 328 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 6: Because I'm like, I can't be the only one. Can't 329 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 6: be the only one, you know what I mean. So 330 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 6: I'm happy to and you know, it's a very vulnerable 331 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 6: time for me as well, but I'm okay, like I 332 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 6: feel like I have someone who absolutely loves and protects me, 333 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 6: you know, so so I feel safe, you know, And 334 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 6: being able to be comfortable in my vulnerability. And that's 335 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 6: so important too, like the people you have around you, 336 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: you know, especially if you're if you have a partner 337 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 6: in an intimate way of some sort, you know that 338 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 6: that's so important. And that's kind of where it starts, 339 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: because you go outside, but you have to come home 340 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 6: every day. 341 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 4: You know. 342 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 6: It's like the person you'll deal with the most. So 343 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 6: I've had the luxury of having a special person that 344 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: has helped me through all this, but it hasn't been 345 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: It hasn't been easy, you know, but I'm still like 346 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 6: standing strong in the pursuance of my own happiness. 347 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: This was a powerful conversation. This is with Jared Padalaki, 348 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: who you know and you love, of course from Supernatural 349 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and most recently Walker and I want to put out 350 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: a trigger warning. We do talk about mental health and 351 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: suicidal ideations. But this is such a beautiful and important 352 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: conversation because he shares a part of his mental health 353 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: journey for the first time, and he shares this in 354 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: hope of helping anyone out there struggling and to show 355 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: the importance of getting help. He cannot stress enough how 356 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: you need to get help if you feel like you 357 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: need it. So for anyone having ups and downs or struggling, 358 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: this is for you. Well, we have come to that 359 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: point of the show where I ask every single guest 360 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: who comes on, what is one thing that you have 361 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: never said before? So whatever you're comfortable with sharing. I 362 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: know you guys over the years have done so many 363 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: interviews and have talked about so many things, so it 364 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: might be challenging, but can you think of anything that 365 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: you have never said before? 366 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 7: Never said before? Admittedly, that is, like you mentioned, difficult 367 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 7: to try and figure out having done interviews and conventions 368 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 7: and whatnot. I've been proudly open about my own relationship 369 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 7: with mental health and the Always Keep funding campaign has 370 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 7: been a great help for me and I think for 371 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 7: many of us that have expressed that it's helped them. 372 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 7: So I'll say this. It was twenty fifteen, at a 373 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: really low moment. I was open about going back and 374 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 7: going to therapy and going to a clinic. But I 375 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 7: was letting my brain, letting my thoughts kind of take 376 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 7: over and going to a place of like dramatic suicidal ideation. 377 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 7: And called my wife and she said get home, and 378 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 7: so got home, went to a clinic for a couple 379 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 7: of weeks and looked into it and haven't been suicidal since, 380 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 7: not for a moment that hadn't been said. There are 381 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 7: still highs and lows that we talked about earlier, like 382 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 7: you're not You're a human, I'm a human, She's a human. 383 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 7: Everybody who's listening to this presumably as a human going 384 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 7: to be a human. So there are highs and lows, 385 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 7: and I don't know about what I have never said, 386 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 7: but I will say this for now as I said 387 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 7: here today, today's a low. I'm fine, nothing to worry about, 388 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 7: but there's a lot of I have a lot of 389 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 7: sadness about UH Walker the family, and again my tears 390 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 7: aren't for myself, but I know I'll be fine because 391 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 7: I'm talking to you about it. I talked to Jen 392 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 7: about it, I talked to my friends about it. And 393 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 7: so just to please please be open, please share, Please 394 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 7: find somebody, whether it's a friend or professional, and UH 395 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 7: and speak and speak of truth. And just because you're low, 396 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 7: now you know meet with triumph and disaster and truth. 397 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 7: Those two imposters just the same. I know the other 398 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 7: shoe will drop, and I have friends, I love, a 399 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 7: new friend I love, uh and the family I love. 400 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 7: So I'm just excited to be out there, be open 401 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 7: and something you said earlier or Jen said earlier, will 402 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 7: see just those two words or one contraction and one word, 403 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 7: but we'll see, you know, something seems great, might not be. 404 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 7: We'll see something seems terrible. We'll see. Like keeping an 405 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 7: open mind and looking to tomorrow, looking to next week, 406 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 7: next month, next year has helped a lot. So just that, 407 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 7: just thinking about like, hey, we'll see. 408 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for thank you for opening up about that. 409 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, and Jim, before we get to you, Jared, 410 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I think that it's so import more and more people 411 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: talk about that. And you brought up something specifically that 412 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I do want to touch on a little further because 413 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people would feel safe 414 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: or often enough to reveal that. And you mentioned a clinic, 415 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and I presume that's a place you actually went for 416 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: a period of time to get some help. And I 417 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if you've if you've talked 418 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: about that before or not, but I thank you for 419 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: that because I don't think people there's such a stigma 420 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: surrounding that. Still there's a huge stigma around mental health still. 421 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean I've lost a friend to her mental health struggle, 422 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: which was a horrifying time in my life. And I 423 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: don't think people talk about that enough. But people certainly 424 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: don't talk enough about going to a place to actually 425 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: get the help. So thank you for sharing that and 426 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: for people listening who might feel like that's something they 427 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: could never bring themselves to do, even though they might 428 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: need to do that. 429 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: What would you say, Well, first, I don't think everybody 430 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 7: needs it. I got to a place where I needed it. 431 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 7: I needed a full reset. I had spent you know, 432 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 7: fifteen years in this industry where I was. You know, 433 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 7: when you go to an audition or a red carpet, 434 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 7: they don't want like, Jared, how are you doing today? Oh? Man, 435 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 7: today was rough and like I didn't sleep. They want like, 436 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 7: oh it's great, like excited to be here, excited to 437 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 7: be you know. So I had done that for so long, 438 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 7: trying to focus. Like we talked earlier about like what's 439 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 7: best for the person who's talking to me as opposed 440 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 7: to like just being honest. And there's a time of 441 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 7: place I would say, it's it's I don't I don't 442 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 7: wear it as a scarlet letter, like it's not like 443 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 7: I'm shameful, Like, hey, I see a therapist. I've been 444 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 7: to a clinic. I like were proudly, like I put 445 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 7: it on my face and like tell everybody, like yeah, dude, 446 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 7: if you don't, if you're not in the situation where 447 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 7: you need that degree of help, then don't seek it. 448 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: But I needed a surgeon, not literally, but you know 449 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 7: what I mean, Like, yeah, I needed it, and here 450 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 7: I am and I've never been Like I said, today's 451 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 7: a hard day. It's been a hard month since we 452 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 7: found out. But I'm in a great place with my wife, 453 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 7: our children, my friends, my family, and so I'm certain 454 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 7: without Jen and without my time is spent really going 455 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 7: like okay, these feelings and thoughts are real feelings and thoughts, 456 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: but they're not reality, Like how do I put those 457 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 7: over there? And you're like, Okay, I'm feeling really excited, 458 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 7: that's going to change. I'm feeling really down, that's going 459 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 7: to change. I'm feeling really anxious. That's going to change. 460 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 7: So just learning to look seek help, open up even 461 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 7: if you don't think you need it, like even if 462 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: you're doing it, like hey, you're fit you're healthy, why 463 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 7: not talk to an Trishnans? Why not get a personal 464 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 7: trainer to show you how to properly do your squads? 465 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 7: Like why not, like we spend all this time? You know, 466 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 7: we have financial planners. If you're fortunate not to have 467 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 7: a job, you have prosfit trainers or Orange theory or 468 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: whatever showing you how to properly do a row, Like 469 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 7: why not look into your brain? Like you live in 470 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 7: your brain? You know, we don't have a brain. We 471 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 7: are a brain and our body just follows. So why not, 472 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 7: Like it seems so silly to not want to look 473 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 7: into it, but not silly. I don't want to want 474 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 7: to make it sound flippant. But if you have the opportunity, 475 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 7: there are a lot of resources out there, so please, please, 476 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: please please look into it. And it's great. 477 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: It feels great, So for all my parents out there. 478 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Jennifer Loview it opens up about her fears as a mom. 479 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: I think many moms and dads will find this useful. 480 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: You may not have all the answers, but you will 481 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: always figure it out, even Jennifer of you, it feels 482 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: that way right. There's no guide book to parenting, and 483 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a parent, but I have many friends who 484 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: are and you do the best you can. And I 485 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: think this reminder from Jennifer is a really good example 486 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: that everybody has some fears and levels of anxiety as 487 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: they are raising their kids, but at the end of 488 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: the day, you're going to figure it out. 489 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 8: Oh boy, here we go. 490 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: The name of the show. Oh you know what's coming. 491 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: It's called I've never said this before. And the show 492 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: was born. 493 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Because I cover a lot of red carpets and junkets, 494 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: and you get like three minutes maybe six minutes if 495 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: you're lucky, at a junket to talk to people. And 496 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: I just saw this longing in people's eyes, wanting to 497 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: talk about things a bit more substantial, right, and are 498 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: a bit more real life, which we've done a lot 499 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: today already. But I'm wondering, is there anything that comes 500 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: to mind for you that you've never said before that 501 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to say or share today, whatever that means 502 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: to you. 503 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it does sort of fit with what 504 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 9: we have been talking about a little bit. 505 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 4: I do. 506 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 9: I think I've never set out loud before to anyone, 507 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 9: maybe other than my husband, that I have a real 508 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 9: fear as a mom about the kind of. 509 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 8: Mom I'm going to be when my kids are teenagers. 510 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 9: And it kind of goes back into what we're talking 511 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 9: about before in that I just don't have like I 512 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 9: never went to high school, like walk down to high school. 513 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 10: I mean, I did the school work of high school and. 514 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 8: I graduated and I but I did it on a set. 515 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 9: I never went to a high school party other than 516 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 9: can't hardly wait. I haven't had those experiences. And right 517 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 9: now I feel like I really thrive as a mom 518 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 9: because the kid in me can throw a magical party 519 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 9: and it can you know, make a magical movie theater 520 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 9: moment or you know, whatever it is. 521 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 8: And like the kid in me is thriving as a mom. 522 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 8: But when it comes to being a teenager. 523 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 9: Or a grown up, you know, kind of going into 524 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 9: your grown up place as a I really worry, like 525 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 9: it panics me a lot that I'm not that I'm 526 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 9: going to fail somehow because I don't have those life experiences. 527 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 9: And thankfully my husband does and he he was he 528 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 9: lived a very normal teenage life. But I don't want 529 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 9: to fail them that way, Like I really want to 530 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 9: thrive and be there for them and do that and 531 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 9: not like weirdly want to show up at the prom 532 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 9: because I never about to go to one. Like I 533 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 9: could just see myself like also coming down the stairs 534 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 9: and she's all that moment and Autumn being like, not now, 535 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 9: this is not your time, you know, Like I just 536 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 9: want to. I just want to be there for them, 537 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 9: and I want to I want to know all the things, 538 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 9: but I don't have those life experiences, and it gives 539 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 9: me a lot of anxiety. 540 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: So how do you calm that? Or can you not? 541 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 8: I can't. I mean I think I just have to 542 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 8: do my best. Yeah, Like I think I'm just gonna 543 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 8: have to do my best. 544 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 9: And and I think maybe I said it to Autumn 545 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 9: the other day because she's eleven now, and you know, 546 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 9: we a kind of talking about it. 547 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 8: And she was like, what was it like when you 548 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 8: were eleven? And I was like, oh boy, here we go. 549 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 9: I was at auditions, like I have no I have 550 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 9: no reference for her that's going to be helpful. 551 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 8: But I told her how I felt inside. 552 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 9: And so I feel like maybe I'm just gonna have 553 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 9: to go with my gut and maybe I'm just going 554 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 9: to learn a lot, Like I feel like I'm I 555 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 9: feel like, maybe there's a part of me that's going 556 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 9: to go and experience it, maybe for the first time, 557 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 9: and I'm going to have to be okay with that, 558 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 9: and maybe there will be something beautiful that comes out 559 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 9: of it. 560 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 8: But it makes me very afraid. 561 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, after reading your book and after talking to you 562 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: for almost an hour, it's clear you know what you're doing, 563 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: and your family is very lucky to have you, and 564 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I think you know it's it's normal to feel all 565 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: those things. But yeah, something tells me you're going to 566 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: be just fine. Just don't show up in the prom 567 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: ball gown. 568 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: Please can't wait? 569 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I won't. 570 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 9: Maybe for my fiftieth I'll throw myself a prom How 571 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 9: about that? 572 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 8: Oh that would be so cute, Right you want to 573 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 8: call me? 574 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I am a great you. 575 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 8: Can come it from. 576 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I had such a great conversation with Justin Hartley, and 577 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: this clip you are about to hear is one of 578 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: my favorite things of the whole year, I think because 579 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: it's such an important lesson that sometimes you need a 580 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: reminder of. I need a reminder of, and it's that 581 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: you're the company you keep right. You want to surround 582 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: yourself with those who lift and inspire and motivate you. 583 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: And that's something that sometimes, with the craziness of life, 584 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: we can forget. But I think it's a great reminder 585 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: from justin take a listen. What is something you've learned 586 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: about yourself through all of these years as a working actor? 587 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're going from job to job and you're 588 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: hustling and it's a very unconventional business. Is there something 589 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: that you've really learned that has helped you kind of 590 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: in this in this career, choice, in this path, in 591 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: your personal life that you can share with people today 592 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: that might help them. 593 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 11: Find the right partner. Find the right partner, find someone 594 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 11: who finds someone who someone who will walk to the 595 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 11: end of the earth with you, who trusts you. Surround 596 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 11: yourself with with the best of the best. Uh, And 597 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 11: don't worry so much about pleasing everyone, because I think 598 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 11: the I think the people that that get you, that 599 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 11: get your heart, didn't know who you are, the really 600 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 11: understand you your kindness. 601 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: I don't. 602 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 11: I don't think any of that factors into it. 603 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 8: I don't. 604 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 11: I don't think making sure that you're pleasing other people 605 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 11: really has anything to do with that. I think it's 606 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 11: being present in the moment. It's an easy thing to say, 607 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 11: a very very hard thing to do, but yeah, find 608 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 11: the right partner and that could be that could be 609 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 11: in a in a in a spouse, that could be 610 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 11: in a sister, that could be in a mother, that 611 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 11: could be in anybody your team. Just just pour into 612 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 11: your team. Find the right people. Surround yourself with people 613 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 11: that are like minded, that that appreciate themselves and that 614 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 11: appreciate your help, and that you can ask advice from, 615 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 11: that you can trust, and when you have that, you 616 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 11: have and your health. 617 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 4: The rest is cake. 618 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, Okay. You know and love Lana Paria from 619 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time, a fan favorite show, and in 620 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: this clip she opens up about her anxiety and how 621 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: she calms down her mind and a big, big thing 622 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: for me that I got out of this is the 623 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: importance of putting down devices and how much that can 624 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: actually trigger stress and anxiety. Even more so, I love 625 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: that she opens up a bit about her mental health 626 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: and what she does to really unwind and maintain her anxiety, 627 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: because it's not something that ever fully goes away, but 628 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: according to her and many people, you can definitely control it. 629 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's such a good lesson as we 630 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: go into the new year. Right, it's not beating ourselves 631 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: up for having anxiety, it's just learning how to manage 632 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: and deal with it. With everything going on with such 633 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: a busy career, with this work ethic that you can't 634 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: seem to turn off, how do you take time for you? Like, 635 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: is it hard for you to unwind and just be 636 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: still and be present? 637 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 8: Yes? And I don't think it's only my fault. 638 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 10: I think it's the fault of these devices, because I 639 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 10: yesterday I like to go on these walks. I do 640 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 10: these like walking meditations, and they are quiet. It's just 641 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 10: me and nature with my dog and listening to the 642 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 10: sounds around me. And sometimes you want to like put 643 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 10: on that audible right, or you're like, oh, let me 644 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 10: make that phone call. But I have to force myself 645 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 10: to just turn off. I put my phone on do 646 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 10: not disturb, and I just walk and I let sort. 647 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 8: Of the gods that be to speak to me. 648 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 10: And that's how I work through whatever I'm struggling with 649 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 10: At the moment. I think about, okay, where I am. 650 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 10: You know how we love working on ourselves and how 651 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 10: could we improve? 652 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 8: Why do I do that? What could I do. 653 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 10: Instead, I think about my career, and I think about, 654 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 10: oh my god, is that it? Like this strike really 655 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 10: screwed everybody up, and now everyone's out of work and 656 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 10: we're all trying to figure it out. And how do I, 657 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 10: you know, stay positive? How do I continue to manifest 658 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 10: the things that I want? Like that's I guess that's 659 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 10: how I spend my time, which isn't really like completely 660 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 10: turning off, but it is. It's very relaxing for me, 661 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 10: and it's time with myself, and I think that's critical. 662 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 10: I think anytime you can turn off the device and 663 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 10: just step outside and be in nature, it's like a 664 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 10: little mini vacation. So I try to take those like 665 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 10: three times a week. 666 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: And we have to remind ourselves to do that. Like 667 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm here in New York City and I found myself 668 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: walking from point A to point B looking at my phone, 669 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm in the greatest city in the world. 670 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: Why am I not looking up and around and taking 671 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: in the sun And oh, there's Central Park And I 672 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: don't need to answer this text. I don't need to 673 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: be scrolling Instagram as I'm walking the streets of New York. 674 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Like enough you know, it's a reminder that we have 675 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: to keep telling ourselves, like put it away, It's okay, 676 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: you know. 677 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 10: It is, and it's very you know. I know I'm 678 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 10: older than you, but I know I'm one of the last. 679 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 10: Our generation knows a world without these devices. And I 680 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 10: started thinking, like, I have a lot of fans who 681 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 10: asked me questions about like what do you do when 682 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 10: you're struggling with anxiety? 683 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 8: You know, I don't know what I want to do 684 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 8: with my life. 685 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 10: Even a relative yesterday called me and said, I just 686 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 10: feel like I'm not listening, I'm not as focused, I 687 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 10: can't retain information. And they're twenty one years old, you know. 688 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 10: And I said, I don't envy kids today. I think 689 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 10: it's really hard for them. The pressures, I mean the 690 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 10: pressures that we have of like did you get my text? 691 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 10: Did you get my email? I'm like, wait, when'd you 692 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 10: said it? Like twenty minutes ago? You're like, what, I 693 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 10: was in a shower. 694 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 4: You know. 695 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 8: It's just there's so much more pressure. So I feel that, especially. 696 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 10: As an adult, and when our world started shifting from 697 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 10: like home voice mail machines to you know, cell phones 698 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 10: and and you know scripts now that we have to 699 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 10: print out or read online, and you know, it's just 700 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 10: not I feel like I'm sounding like one of those 701 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 10: old people that really just was like it was better when, 702 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 10: but it was I think psychologically and just health wise, 703 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 10: like it was better, you know, only because we didn't. 704 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 10: We trusted more. We trusted people more, you know, we 705 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 10: weren't spying and like trying to find out things on 706 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 10: their phone or you know, if someone didn't call you 707 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 10: right away, you didn't think that they were in a 708 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 10: car accident. You just thought they're like, oh whatever. You know, 709 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 10: you left a message on their machine and sometimes they 710 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 10: get back to you two days later, and you didn't 711 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 10: worry that something was wrong, you know. And I do 712 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 10: miss that time. I miss the freedom of the mind 713 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 10: that can go in so many different places because you're 714 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 10: not bogged down by this device. 715 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 8: And that's that's like it actually brings tears to my eyes. 716 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 10: It truly does, because it I guess it's also why 717 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 10: I did that movie, because it felt like, oh my god, 718 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 10: you guys, what are we doing? 719 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 8: What are we doing to ourselves? 720 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 10: Like I know, metas whatever, and probably gonna get banned 721 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 10: for saying all this, but like. 722 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 8: I just I just think this world is so beautiful. 723 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 8: Step outside, look at the trees. Hut, what a freaking tree. 724 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 10: I hug the trees in the neighborhood all the time. 725 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 3: These people just see you. People just see you hugging 726 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 3: trees around town. 727 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 10: There are these oak trees that are like so three 728 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 10: hundred years old, and they're so beautiful, you know, and 729 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 10: I just like I feel the energy coming from them. 730 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 8: What's the energy that we need to connect to? 731 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: Truly, I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me 732 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: Tommy Dedario. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi 733 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. 734 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 735 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: Duran podcast network on iHeart Podcasts. For more rate review 736 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 737 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy de Dario. 738 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 11: Yeah.