Speaker 1: Hell I Suck at Dating with Dean Angler and Jared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an
Speaker 1: all new episode of Help I Suck at Dating. I
Speaker 1: am Jared have Ben, of course, joined by Dean Angler,
Speaker 1: who I just complimented his hair is looking incredibly well,
Speaker 1: and he responded saying he hasn't washed it in a
Speaker 1: few days, which I'm in the minority. I think hair
Speaker 1: looks better when it's not washed. I told you that
Speaker 1: in confidence, Jared um, But I don't know why my
Speaker 1: hair is the topic of discussion to open the podcast,
Speaker 1: because do it. We have a pretty freaking great episode
Speaker 1: for you guys today. We have from Peter season of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor and from Bachelor in Paradise. If I remember
Speaker 1: see we're How the heck are you? I am doing great?
Speaker 1: How are you guys? Oh? Well? From my hair, I'm
Speaker 1: doing pretty well. Making fun of it. I just said
Speaker 1: it looks spectacular. How is that making fun? Aside from
Speaker 1: Jared in the office of his gastron on gastro uh,
Speaker 1: it looks like a medical exams officer. I got a
Speaker 1: medical I have a first aid kit, I have COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen raping exams, I have a power drill. I have
Speaker 1: everything you could possibly need in these office. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: gastro enologists, I'm mispronouncing that, but that's what I was
Speaker 1: going for. Anyways, Kelsey, how are you? You already said
Speaker 1: you're good. I'm a little scattered brain right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know where my microphone is. I'm recording through my phone.
Speaker 1: I lost my glass of water, but I found that.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good thing. Kelsey, welcome to recording a
Speaker 1: podcast with Dean. I'm you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: let you take the range because you have your life
Speaker 1: lay more to the other than idea. Well, Kelsey, of course,
Speaker 1: everybody knows you from Peter Webber's season of the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: and then you are on Bachelor in Paradise. So what
Speaker 1: have you been up to since we last saw you
Speaker 1: on Paradise? Um, I've been traveling a lot, hanging out
Speaker 1: with my girlfriends, just living life and having fun. Well,
Speaker 1: you're in Nashville. Where's your favorite place to travel? Um?
Speaker 1: In the United States or in Europe? The world? We're
Speaker 1: going internationally, the whole world. Come on. Well, I took
Speaker 1: my first European trip this summer with Kelly and I
Speaker 1: am obsessed with Europe now, so if I can go back, um,
Speaker 1: actually want to do a sombership this year with her,
Speaker 1: so hopefully with COVID and all that will be able
Speaker 1: to do that. What part of Europe? Um? I want
Speaker 1: to go back to Paris? So where have you been
Speaker 1: in Europe? Um? So we started in Paris and then
Speaker 1: we went to Sandra Pa and then we went to
Speaker 1: Athens and then meeting else that you hit some pretty
Speaker 1: good stops. Did you go like, obviously this is a
Speaker 1: dating podcast, did you meet any people you know interest
Speaker 1: while over across the ocean? Well, it's funny you say that.
Speaker 1: So before the trip, I had gone on a two
Speaker 1: year hiatus, no dating, no kissing, like, no nothing, just
Speaker 1: cold turkey. Wait a minute, yeah, how long Peter was
Speaker 1: my last? Was my last kiss? What about Paradise? Didn't
Speaker 1: see you on in Paradise? No? I didn't. Holy crap.
Speaker 1: Well I'm flabbergasted because it only feels like a year ago.
Speaker 1: But holy crap, Holy moly, we're getting old. Continue. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a mental breakdown. So kind of other
Speaker 1: trip is like, you know what, I need to start
Speaker 1: putting myself out there again. So I did make out
Speaker 1: with someone in making nose but not so. But yeah,
Speaker 1: in two years that was my miconos was my first kiss.
Speaker 1: And two years was this like a was it? Was
Speaker 1: it a local Grecian? No, he was European, but um
Speaker 1: not from Greece. Did anything come from it? Come on,
Speaker 1: you just made out with the guy for the first
Speaker 1: time in two years and you didn't try to pursue anything.
Speaker 1: Isn't that how like p s I love you began? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not into that stuff. I just wanted to have fun,
Speaker 1: put myself out there again. I also tried. So I'm
Speaker 1: like horrible at flirting and my one of my girlfriends,
Speaker 1: I was with me and Kelly. They were like, you
Speaker 1: need to start flirting more. It's like, hey, we'll teach
Speaker 1: me something. So they taught me that three second rule
Speaker 1: where you look at someone for three seconds, smile, and
Speaker 1: then look away. It works. Okay, So tell us go
Speaker 1: over this rule a little bit more because I've never
Speaker 1: heard this rule before, and I'm sure a lot of listeners.
Speaker 1: There's surely other listeners that could benefit from it. So
Speaker 1: what's the rule? So you like make eye contact with
Speaker 1: someone that you think is cute or whatever, look at
Speaker 1: that for like three seconds, smile, and then look away.
Speaker 1: They cut month. Okay, it's really weird, but it works
Speaker 1: like the first time. Have no doubt. I have no
Speaker 1: doubt that Dean has been exposed to this rule because
Speaker 1: I can totally from the opposite side of that, imagining
Speaker 1: Dean being on the opposite side of someone staring at him.
Speaker 1: I could totally see someone staring at Dean for three seconds,
Speaker 1: looking away, and then Dean looking at one of his
Speaker 1: buddies and being like, she wants me um one of
Speaker 1: my AirPod just either. So I missed everything that was
Speaker 1: just said, and I'm nothing. We're just making funny, don't mind.
Speaker 1: I need to I need to learn more about this
Speaker 1: three second roule. So okay, so we're turning like we're
Speaker 1: turning flirting into a science, which has been done before.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way there's only to knocket.
Speaker 1: There's definitely like a formula to to kind of this
Speaker 1: whole this whole game. But where did you hear this
Speaker 1: whole three second rule thing? Like? Who told it to you? Kelly?
Speaker 1: Kelly Flan again shop you I know Kelly flan again.
Speaker 1: So she well she could come up with a three
Speaker 1: second rule, but she told you about it. But she's
Speaker 1: like the master flirter, Like you can totally tell timidating
Speaker 1: to watch because I'm more reserves when it comes to
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'd rather be pursued like and she just
Speaker 1: she's a different in a different level, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1: So I've learned a lot from her. Kelly gives off
Speaker 1: very confident vibes, but she's very flirting, like she knows
Speaker 1: how to turn it on. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: She gives also like very confident vibes, like you guys
Speaker 1: compliment each other very well. Then she's the confident, like
Speaker 1: outspoken one in year like the more reserves you guys
Speaker 1: kind of bounce off each other pretty well, I bet right. Um,
Speaker 1: yes and no, So I'm very outspoken to like her
Speaker 1: and I will tell each other how it is. We
Speaker 1: have no problem being belong with each other. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to guys, were completely different personality wise, worse
Speaker 1: than learn a lot of ways. But guys, she has
Speaker 1: a lot more confidence in that area than I do. Um,
Speaker 1: So she's been helping me a lot lately, well so
Speaker 1: so what's the reason that you took a two year
Speaker 1: hiatus from even considering talking or dating other guys. So
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship probably like a year year
Speaker 1: before the show, and one of my therapists had said
Speaker 1: you should take a year off dating, and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way. I'm twenty eight. I want to be married,
Speaker 1: have kids, you know that whole thing. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not taking your off. So then I
Speaker 1: decided to go on the show. Well then I got
Speaker 1: off the show and as like, you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: I should really listen to my therapist and take a
Speaker 1: year off of dating. Well, then a year turned into
Speaker 1: two years. Like I just got very comfortable being by myself.
Speaker 1: I was listening to my friends drama and like the
Speaker 1: highs and most of dating, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: why would I want to be a part of that.
Speaker 1: But then I got to the point where I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, if I don't start putting myself out there again,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna meet someone. So but it was good.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's one of the reasons why we
Speaker 1: didn't see you, um like former romantic connection in Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise because you were kind of just like more
Speaker 1: focused on yourself. No, I just so I'm thirty, I'll
Speaker 1: be thirty one, and like, I think from taking the
Speaker 1: two years off, realized like I'm not gonna just if
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in someone, I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 1: or lead anyone on because I don't want that to
Speaker 1: happen to me. So for me, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: romantic connection with anyone, Like I wasn't even interested in
Speaker 1: kissing anyone. And so I'm like, if I don't even
Speaker 1: want to kiss you, I know I'm not interested in you.
Speaker 1: So I was like hoping I would stay the next
Speaker 1: week just to see if there was anyone else I
Speaker 1: came down that I could be interested in. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to force it. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like make out with someone just to stay. So
Speaker 1: that was kind of my mindset. Yeah, that's good. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably the right approach. Um. Hey, so in
Speaker 1: our email, like we always get these rundowns before you
Speaker 1: know we start these episodes, it says right here, I
Speaker 1: was just skimming through it. You were Miss Iowa. Mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. Did you know that my girlfriend was
Speaker 1: Miss North Carolina. I did. Yeah, Calan and I talked
Speaker 1: about that in Miami really because she must have been
Speaker 1: probably twenty year after me. Wow, that's crazy. And I know,
Speaker 1: like I know that the pageant world it's not like
Speaker 1: a sorority per se. But I guess like once you
Speaker 1: start competing a lot, it kind of becomes like a
Speaker 1: little close knit family. So that's pretty cool. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, I wish I knew more about these things.
Speaker 1: The only because the only thing I have to contribute
Speaker 1: as Miss Congeniality, which I feel like the stereotype did
Speaker 1: not win that so well. Ms Congeniality. Well, what I
Speaker 1: found out about Miss Congeniality is the song from the
Speaker 1: movie where William Shatner's like, she's Beauty and she's Grace,
Speaker 1: she's Miss United States. That's fake because it's Miss America.
Speaker 1: It's not Miss United States. Do you guys know this right? Well, well,
Speaker 1: there's Miss USA and Miss America, so there're two pageants.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that song, though, is not real, right right? Okay? Cool,
Speaker 1: that's all I need to know. It could it could
Speaker 1: be real? Are you sure that they just made it
Speaker 1: up for the movie. Well, because I was trying to
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely made it for the because I was
Speaker 1: trying to research this one day I have. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: move on to something else because we also have Brett
Speaker 1: Robinson who's coming up shortly. Uh and Brett is uh
Speaker 1: from Big Brother and Kelsey is gonna come and stay
Speaker 1: on with us. So it's gonna be us to Kelsey
Speaker 1: and Brett. But before we do that, I do have
Speaker 1: a question for you, Kelsey, because we're talking about the
Speaker 1: three second rule and you said that you had a
Speaker 1: nice makeout sess with a with a gentleman from Europe,
Speaker 1: So I have to know did you do the three
Speaker 1: second rule and that's how the makeout session began? Um No,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more complicated than that. I did
Speaker 1: the three second rule. He then approached me, so it worked,
Speaker 1: but then we didn't make out until when he met
Speaker 1: up with us the next day at the next part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the ice breaker was the three seconds, which is
Speaker 1: what it's meant to do. Okay. So, Kelsey, so you
Speaker 1: had this, you had this variants in Europe and you
Speaker 1: enjoyed the just Europe in general. Did that kind of
Speaker 1: like revitalize you to get back into the Dating World
Speaker 1: or are you still kind of reeling yourself in a
Speaker 1: little bit? No, it did, So what has it been
Speaker 1: like since, like you got back to the USA. You're
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Now, are you like jumping on the dating apps?
Speaker 1: Are you going full steam ahead or are you kind
Speaker 1: of easing into it? What are you doing? No dating apps?
Speaker 1: I've I've never tried the dating apps. I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's something for me. I'm a horrible Texter. I'd
Speaker 1: rather talk on the phone. So, um, yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: done the dating apps and just trying to meet people organically.
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone for about two months that
Speaker 1: didn't work out, But other than that, I've just been
Speaker 1: going on dates and trying to find different ways to
Speaker 1: meet people. And it's funny because Kelly and I both
Speaker 1: are single and work together a lot. So um. What
Speaker 1: I've learned from her too is and like some of
Speaker 1: my other friends, they like to if we're like at
Speaker 1: a sporting event or like at another event, they'll like
Speaker 1: take a picture and then they'll like take random people
Speaker 1: just to see if they can get their attention, and
Speaker 1: then they'll hide the tag, right, and it works a
Speaker 1: lot of the time. People doing that who have met
Speaker 1: I can't say, like, I bet you like Predator players
Speaker 1: are like Titans players or know nothing like that, um
Speaker 1: like bachelor people. No, I'm not going to tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: she's smiling everyone I know you can't see because this
Speaker 1: is a podcast. Because she's smiling. It was definitely you
Speaker 1: don't think I had no problem reaching them? Right right right?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this about help by Second Dating, but we
Speaker 1: have a lot of attractive, successful, nice guys that listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast. All not all, but most of them
Speaker 1: are single guys, some whom live in Nashville. So let's
Speaker 1: say one of them is really interested in getting your attention.
Speaker 1: What kind of advice would you have for someone that
Speaker 1: wants to get your attention, that wants to receive the
Speaker 1: three second rule from you? Like, what's your type? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you what kind of advice would you have
Speaker 1: for someone that's going after after you? Are we talking
Speaker 1: about out in person or just connecting? Yeah, like you know,
Speaker 1: like not like connecting you know, through other mediums. But
Speaker 1: just like let's say you guys are out and someone
Speaker 1: spots you from across the bar, like what's that? What
Speaker 1: do they need to do to get your attention? Come
Speaker 1: up and approach me, keep the conversation going. So even
Speaker 1: if the three second rule isn't doesn't have time to
Speaker 1: develop your total okay with someone coming up and like,
Speaker 1: I would prefer that. I would prefer someone to come up,
Speaker 1: talk to me and pursue me. That's that's what I want.
Speaker 1: I think That's why even on Paradise, I had a
Speaker 1: hard time because I'm like, these guys expected me to
Speaker 1: pursue them because they had the rows, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pursue you. Ay, I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in you, And be like, if this someone is interested
Speaker 1: in I would have, but I was I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in you. I'm not gonna pursue you. Like
Speaker 1: if I really like someone, I'll put in more effort.
Speaker 1: I want to be pursued. My question is I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people out there are find it
Speaker 1: difficult to differentiate between someone not interested in someone playing
Speaker 1: hard to get. So from your perspective, Kelsey, what are
Speaker 1: some of the things that you do that, like do
Speaker 1: you play hard to get? Do you know any girls
Speaker 1: that play hard to get? I know a lot of
Speaker 1: girls that play hard to get and I think I
Speaker 1: need start taking I need to start taking notes from them,
Speaker 1: because no, no, no, I like your approach way better.
Speaker 1: You're forthcoming, you're honest. I am, so I'm very upfront.
Speaker 1: So the last person I was talking to before we
Speaker 1: even met up, I was like, if we're doing distance,
Speaker 1: this is what I expect, and like, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we're dating, but I have self respect for myself and
Speaker 1: I don't want to If you're gonna be talking to
Speaker 1: other people, that's fine, but just take me out of
Speaker 1: the equation, you know, Like I'm very upfront with how
Speaker 1: I want to progress things, or like I want to
Speaker 1: see where things go because I feel like when you
Speaker 1: mix so many people into the mix, it just gets confusing.
Speaker 1: You can't fully invest in someone. Um, and that backfire.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like, maybe I need to start
Speaker 1: Why did that? Why did that backfire? You don't have
Speaker 1: to go into too many details, but I'm curious, Um,
Speaker 1: we just weren't on the same page even though I
Speaker 1: had had that conversation. He claims we never did, and like,
Speaker 1: you guys are stupid, So it's pretty safe to assume
Speaker 1: you given this the dilemma of we either talk just
Speaker 1: us too, or you can go out and date other people.
Speaker 1: And he chose to go talk to other people. Yes,
Speaker 1: well this is this is my thing. If I'm in
Speaker 1: the same city as you, it's it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to like, I understand if you're seeing other people, if
Speaker 1: we're doing distance like that takes a lot of time, effort,
Speaker 1: money into pursuing something. And I'm like, I've already taken
Speaker 1: enough time off dating, Like I'm not going to just
Speaker 1: go have a fling with you for a weekend and
Speaker 1: then you do whatever you want when I'm not there
Speaker 1: and then you come and visit me. Like, that's just
Speaker 1: not how it's gonna work. So before he even came
Speaker 1: to Nashville, I was like, Hey, if you want to
Speaker 1: see other people, that's fine, stay where you are, and
Speaker 1: just don't bring me into the equation. You want to
Speaker 1: know why. I I've always agreed with that, but I've
Speaker 1: never heard someone put it into words as well as
Speaker 1: you just did. And I fully agree. If you're going
Speaker 1: to be doing distance with someone long distance, there is
Speaker 1: a lot more that goes into it. So I fully agree,
Speaker 1: and I'm fully on board with what you're saying. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm when you're camp for all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: because you're right, like, if you're gonna put it in
Speaker 1: the effort and spend the money and go through all
Speaker 1: those steps to see someone, it's going to be someone
Speaker 1: that you are like investing in, not just like some
Speaker 1: random person you're gonna cook up with a couple of
Speaker 1: times and then never really see you again until the
Speaker 1: next time you decide to fly out or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So I fully agree with where you're coming from, and
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for putting your foot down to yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, that's It's a hard thing to do sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think taking the year two years off of dating
Speaker 1: like really helped because it's just like I'm just over
Speaker 1: the games. Well, now that you're in your thirties, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you know a lot more what you want.
Speaker 1: I think everyone can kind of speak to that to
Speaker 1: Jared and I are both in our thirties, and I
Speaker 1: feel like the person I was in my twenties is uh, well,
Speaker 1: I still I am an idiot, but the person and
Speaker 1: I wasn't my twenties wasn't even bigger idiot. So I
Speaker 1: think as long as we start to like bring that
Speaker 1: the idiosity down as much as we can, the thirties
Speaker 1: is a big chip up. So I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: I think that you're doing great, and I think that
Speaker 1: you should keep doing and hopefully, like Jared said earlier,
Speaker 1: what was it a Mama me a moment? Jared, Mama
Speaker 1: miya for the europe guy? Oh no, I said, p
Speaker 1: S I love you, ps, I love you. These wrong coms, man,
Speaker 1: they'll blend together for me. Hopefully we have a p S.
Speaker 1: I Love you moment and you can be reunited with
Speaker 1: the the what's what's the place? The mecan Us guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to be reunited with him. It
Speaker 1: was just like another Meconos man. Did you go to
Speaker 1: Did you go to Lindsay Lohan's day club in Mecanos? No?
Speaker 1: I think it's closed. Okay, I wasn't sure, but I
Speaker 1: just remember hearing so much about it. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: she had a show actually about it, right right right, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll reopen one day. Um. I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Meconos. I have not had the chance too yet,
Speaker 1: but I'm very jealous that Anyways, we're gonna take one
Speaker 1: quick break. Um, we're gonna jump into our guest and Chared.
Speaker 1: Who's our guest again? It is Brett Robinson from TikTok.
Speaker 1: The thirst trap King is what I'm dubbing him as
Speaker 1: I apparently, I guess, I don't know. I looked at
Speaker 1: one of his tiktoks and he was shut listening it. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I gotta say that the guy's got great traps.
Speaker 1: So stick through this break. We'll be right back, all right,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help I suck at dating, Dean, myself
Speaker 1: Kelsey with a very special guest. You know him if
Speaker 1: you are a fan of Big Brother, you definitely know
Speaker 1: him from back in two thousand eighteen. And also he's
Speaker 1: very popular on TikTok. We actually just watched a couple
Speaker 1: of your TikTok's, Brett, and we really need to give
Speaker 1: Kelsey some pointers, and me too, because I suck on TikTok. Dean,
Speaker 1: are you on tick talk? I am on the tick
Speaker 1: as the kids. Well, we probably could all use some
Speaker 1: pointers right here. So it is Brett Robinson. Brett, how
Speaker 1: you doing, buddy? Thanks for coming on. Help I suck
Speaker 1: at dating. Hey, guys. I'm doing great, super excited to
Speaker 1: be here and happy to help you guys with your TikTok's.
Speaker 1: And I guess dating lives. Yeah, well you know, we
Speaker 1: suck at dating obviously, so a lot of your TikTok's
Speaker 1: are about dating. They're about falling in love. So, first
Speaker 1: of all, are you single? I am single? Yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you meet a lot of people on TikTok um?
Speaker 1: Actually no? So this is like a weird Like the
Speaker 1: reason I like TikTok now is because it's like, I
Speaker 1: feel like Instagram became the Facebook, where like everyone's parents
Speaker 1: and everyone's aunts and uncles and like extended cousins and
Speaker 1: like everyone in the world that you knew was there.
Speaker 1: And I feel like when you're on Instagram, you're like
Speaker 1: in a box, like this is what socially acceptable, this
Speaker 1: is what like I'm allowed to post, like this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna think of if so and so takes
Speaker 1: a look at this. And then I got on TikTok
Speaker 1: and I didn't follow anyone because I didn't know anyone
Speaker 1: on TikTok, So I just started posting whatever I organically
Speaker 1: wanted to post and just didn't care what anyone had
Speaker 1: to think about it. I don't know if I answered
Speaker 1: your question at all. There, No you did. I was
Speaker 1: just curious about like because it I think of like Instagram,
Speaker 1: like sliding into the d m s is such a
Speaker 1: common phrase. I'm curious if there's something equivalent to that
Speaker 1: on TikTok Um. I really like, I think I only
Speaker 1: follow like like like thirty people, so I don't really
Speaker 1: slid and up. My d ms are not open on
Speaker 1: TikTok I don't. I don't use it like that because
Speaker 1: then I get in like I've there was a point
Speaker 1: in time where I followed a lot of people and
Speaker 1: I started on following people because I was two in
Speaker 1: my head when I was posting about things like what
Speaker 1: would this person think? And I love just having like
Speaker 1: completely on completely raw, like I want to post this
Speaker 1: because this is how I feel or I think this
Speaker 1: is super relatable where I really like this content and
Speaker 1: I don't really care what anyone has to think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, But I got I got a question
Speaker 1: for you. So you were on Big Brother, right, I was,
Speaker 1: how did how did that go? I've never really watched
Speaker 1: Big Brother, but I've always been like so intrigued by
Speaker 1: it seems like such a fun experience, but like also
Speaker 1: such a mindful that's all very accurate. It was probably
Speaker 1: the best worst time that I ever had. Like I
Speaker 1: don't regret it at all, But it's kind of like
Speaker 1: going to the gym. It's like you're gone your way there.
Speaker 1: It sucks while you're there. It sucks, but like if
Speaker 1: you do really well, you feel really good about it afterwards,
Speaker 1: or like if you ever like pledged a frattorney, or
Speaker 1: if you ever like boot camp for the military, or
Speaker 1: if you ever played up varsity you from a freshman,
Speaker 1: like it sucks, but it's like really such an amazing
Speaker 1: experience and you grow so much from it. It was
Speaker 1: the craziest thing that I've ever done, And you don't
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do until you're actually there. Like
Speaker 1: I had no clue that I was gonna stand up
Speaker 1: and say like these crazy as speeches or like throw
Speaker 1: someone under the bus. And it seems easy when you're watching,
Speaker 1: Like when you're watching, you're like, oh, that's easy, Like
Speaker 1: I would totally have done this. You get there and
Speaker 1: you're like in the moment your face to face with
Speaker 1: someone and you have a lady with pink hair screaming
Speaker 1: with popular face. You're like, holy sh this escalated quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. Whenever I wanted Survivor, I'm always like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are so stupid. I know everything that's going on,
Speaker 1: but if I ever actually be on the show, I
Speaker 1: would have absolutely no clue what's going on. Um, when
Speaker 1: you were on Big Brother, did you leave with a
Speaker 1: love interest or did you have one during the show
Speaker 1: or anything like that. No, you know what, man, So like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's a game, right,
Speaker 1: Like the whole like the whole, like the whole fan
Speaker 1: base of Big Brother is lie, cheat, steal, play the
Speaker 1: game your way to the end. Okay, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: it is. Though. So my game was flirting. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just want to be the most Like, I want
Speaker 1: to be so loved that when someone has to go
Speaker 1: in that room to vote me out, that they just
Speaker 1: like feel so gut wrenched that they can't so like,
Speaker 1: I flirted with the girls, I got bromanced with the guys.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be the most lovable guy. Um,
Speaker 1: but I was. I guess I had my walls up
Speaker 1: because you don't really know what anyone's ulterior motive is. Like,
Speaker 1: no matter what someone tells you your face, everybody's lying
Speaker 1: to your face the entire game. Everybody tells you that
Speaker 1: they're voting for you to stay. Guess what every single
Speaker 1: week that was a lie. That was It wasn't a
Speaker 1: unanimous vote to stay. So you don't really trust anyone.
Speaker 1: And I didn't feel comfortable enough opening up on live
Speaker 1: television and just like having my heart shattered for someone
Speaker 1: who was using you for a half million dollars. If
Speaker 1: you wanted me, you can call me afterwards. Yeah to
Speaker 1: good approach. So before we going on a Big Brother,
Speaker 1: you were in cyber security, right, do you still work
Speaker 1: in cybersecurity? I do? Yeah? Oh say nice. So you
Speaker 1: you're you're one of the few people that go on
Speaker 1: reality to well, not one of the few, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are plenty and plenty, uh present company excluded. I
Speaker 1: would say that go on reality TV and then go
Speaker 1: back to their careers afterwards. That's great. I did a
Speaker 1: little trend. So I was a cybersecurity engineer prior to
Speaker 1: Big Brother, and then I moved into an account executive role,
Speaker 1: so I sell what I used to be an engineer
Speaker 1: of prior, but I'm still in the Yeah, oh so
Speaker 1: you're probably great for like demos and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I do. Nice dude, that's awesome. So
Speaker 1: you were on after being on Big Brother, what you
Speaker 1: want to do reality TV? Again? The way that I
Speaker 1: look at reality TV is it's no different and if
Speaker 1: it head hunter hit me up for another job, I
Speaker 1: am always open to a conversation for another opportunity. If
Speaker 1: I think that that opportunity is better than my current situation,
Speaker 1: I will absolutely do it. I've chatted with tons of
Speaker 1: other shows. I've chatted with tons of other jobs, and
Speaker 1: it just at it's it's all about timing. So like
Speaker 1: when I did Big Brother, I was already on my
Speaker 1: way out the door in the position that I was in,
Speaker 1: I was leaving. I got frustrated at a manager that
Speaker 1: sucked at the time. They hit me with a super
Speaker 1: unique opportunity, and I was like, you know what, screw it,
Speaker 1: Like let's do it. And then I ended up going
Speaker 1: back in and getting a different manager and doing doing
Speaker 1: different stuff. But that's the way that I see It's
Speaker 1: actually that's actually kind of been something that's been like
Speaker 1: it's bitten me in the butt with future jobs was
Speaker 1: they were always worried. They're like, well, if we hire you,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna bail and like go do another TV show.
Speaker 1: And the way that I look at it and you're like,
Speaker 1: well yeah, well, I mean it's no different than if
Speaker 1: if another company hits me up and goes Brett, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna double your salary. You can bet your sweet ass
Speaker 1: I'm walking like I'm definitely gonna go. But it's it's
Speaker 1: completely opportunity driven. I've also talked to plenty of shows
Speaker 1: that wanted me, and the terms were just so terrible
Speaker 1: and horrible that I was like, dude, I like I
Speaker 1: don't need this, Like I really don't. Like I'm open
Speaker 1: to it and it's cool, but I don't have to
Speaker 1: do this. Are you at liberty to say what show?
Speaker 1: What kind of the shows would you be interested in doing?
Speaker 1: Maybe say that instead, what kind of shows that would
Speaker 1: be like really pretty open? I'm really pretty open to
Speaker 1: most shows, like I mean, like within reason, like I'm
Speaker 1: not doing Naked and Afraid or Dating naked or like
Speaker 1: in the UK they got like this crazy show that
Speaker 1: like you show your genitals before the world in the UK,
Speaker 1: I forget I want to say, I forget the name
Speaker 1: of the show, but I swear to God you have
Speaker 1: like you have like a thing blocking you from the
Speaker 1: waist up and you only can see your genitals. There's
Speaker 1: five people standing in front of you and you can see.
Speaker 1: It's not blurred at all. It is not blurred. You
Speaker 1: can see everything. And someone stands on stage and they
Speaker 1: have to pick who they want based on that. It's
Speaker 1: called Naked Attraction. Naked Attraction, that's the show. I think
Speaker 1: Kelsey in that case, I think it's good that you
Speaker 1: live into the rocks because no one wants well, I
Speaker 1: guess people want to see it. It's on television, so
Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, I would do anything. Like I like
Speaker 1: the competition shows because like I did pretty well on
Speaker 1: Big Brother, I think I would do well on a
Speaker 1: competition show. Um, I've never done a dating show. It
Speaker 1: depends on the format, man, Like some of those dating
Speaker 1: shows are pretty whack. But there are something that I
Speaker 1: would be open to doing, Like I love Love Island.
Speaker 1: Like I think Love Island is like the coolest show
Speaker 1: in the way. The UK version is like my favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's pivot real quick and talk more about your TikTok.
Speaker 1: I've got questions for you. So you talk a lot
Speaker 1: about like dating and stuff on TikTok, right or not
Speaker 1: like not like dating per se, but more like how
Speaker 1: would you like how would you describe it? The way
Speaker 1: that I describe it is just it's relatable. Like it's
Speaker 1: like really for me, like what resonates with someone that
Speaker 1: they're like, I love this TikTok so much that I
Speaker 1: want to like it or I want to comment on it,
Speaker 1: or I want to share it. Is just like I
Speaker 1: think everyone in the world has been through heartbreak at
Speaker 1: some point in their life at some or or let
Speaker 1: down or confusion and communication or something. And I just
Speaker 1: like to be totally honest, man. When I made the
Speaker 1: first one and I was like, this is kind of relatable,
Speaker 1: and then I tried to branch away from it and
Speaker 1: nothing else would do well, and it was like I
Speaker 1: was like, if this is what the people want, Like
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess it's just relatable for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: idealized romance definitely sells well on those platforms. Um do
Speaker 1: you ever so? And you said earlier like your d
Speaker 1: ms are closed on TikTok. So do you ever like,
Speaker 1: let's say you're out at a bar or something like
Speaker 1: that and you meet someone, have you ever had anyone
Speaker 1: like approach you and be like I felt like I
Speaker 1: love your tiktoks, like I follow you on TikTok, or
Speaker 1: that I will say the moment that I felt like
Speaker 1: I made it. I always get to get people to
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I love you from big Brother.
Speaker 1: The moment that I had someone come up and they're like,
Speaker 1: I love you from TikTok, I was like, like I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't need Big Brother, Like I made it.
Speaker 1: I have a fan on my own. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: have definitely had people come up to me that recognize
Speaker 1: me from TikTok. Yeah, why don't do you ever do
Speaker 1: like like collaborations, Like because there are like other TikTok
Speaker 1: content creators out there right to, like, why don't you
Speaker 1: like team up with one of these other TikTok creators
Speaker 1: and then you guys become like a super couple of sorts.
Speaker 1: To be honest, for the most part, it was just
Speaker 1: because I lived in locations that didn't have a ton
Speaker 1: of creators and like, like I previously lived in Boston.
Speaker 1: I previously lived in Austin, and I lived in Vegas
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I only recently moved to l
Speaker 1: A on Halloween. Like I've been here a super short
Speaker 1: period of time. I have recently done some collaborations, but
Speaker 1: that was the first collaboration I've actually ever done. I
Speaker 1: don't know if my TikTok at all, but I did.
Speaker 1: And what was that one? I did right before? But
Speaker 1: I ran out of time, so I didn't get a
Speaker 1: look at a lot of it. Did a tick out.
Speaker 1: If you're familiar with Tanna Mojoe, I did a TikTok.
Speaker 1: But yeah, tiktoks with Tanna Mojoe. I think those are
Speaker 1: my two most two of my three most recent tiktoks.
Speaker 1: My my entire TikTok feed is just like d I
Speaker 1: y stuff and dogs like that's entirely all I get personally,
Speaker 1: like what my TikTok feed is. But it's three of them,
Speaker 1: and it was you with your shirt off, playing like
Speaker 1: a slow song every time. Those are the three that
Speaker 1: we saw. It's it's funny you say that because I
Speaker 1: actually avoid almost at all costs doing any content with
Speaker 1: my shirt off because it typically doesn't move as well.
Speaker 1: It really doesn't, because why do you think that is?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly, because of your audiences guys, and
Speaker 1: if I'm hitting the heart with something relatable, like like
Speaker 1: something like I don't always say like when she broke
Speaker 1: your heart or when she did this, I'm just like
Speaker 1: when that one person did something like. There are guys
Speaker 1: that relate to that too, but there are some guys
Speaker 1: that are just like like a girl will like another
Speaker 1: girl's bikini photo, a guy will not like another guy's
Speaker 1: photo with a shirt off unless you're like really good friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like really good friends. I will say that we did
Speaker 1: watch a couple of TikTok's and I was I was
Speaker 1: going on and on about your traps and how dreaming
Speaker 1: they are, the massive, very good traps that I also.
Speaker 1: The other thing is like you always hear of these
Speaker 1: like like I feel like TikTok is super savage and
Speaker 1: Embarrasson Instagra, I'm like, they'll just delete your account, like
Speaker 1: they just don't like it, Like they'll just get rid
Speaker 1: of it. So I don't know, I always just get
Speaker 1: like nervous that there's what about what about like dating apps?
Speaker 1: Are you on any of those. No, I'm not really
Speaker 1: all right. Maybe I'm like the weirdest freak of this generation.
Speaker 1: And this is just like a part like I have
Speaker 1: nothing against dading apps. I think for like most people, like,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful you moved to a new city when you
Speaker 1: meet someone. In my book, for me, if I can
Speaker 1: if there's a day where I can't go to a
Speaker 1: bar and walk up to a girl that I'm interested
Speaker 1: in just say head, love to get dinner with you,
Speaker 1: then there's something in need that I need to fix
Speaker 1: that I'm so scared that I have to hide behind
Speaker 1: the phone. Yeah, I mean that's that's that sounds logica.
Speaker 1: My most viewed TikTok. This is the difference between me
Speaker 1: and you Bread. It's me in a hotel room watching
Speaker 1: Tom Brady where a backwards snap back and it's that
Speaker 1: oh boner alert. It's a good one. I was very
Speaker 1: proud of that lab Jared. Is that what you're saying, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm down? You let you let me and my wife
Speaker 1: actually know I am down. You know what's funny about
Speaker 1: TikTok and it makes me when I was watching your videos,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you can put britt I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: you've recognized this is that you can put so much
Speaker 1: effort into a video and really think that it's so
Speaker 1: good and so perfect and you did such a good job,
Speaker 1: and it lays flat. And then you'll do a video
Speaker 1: where it's just a sound over for eight seconds and
Speaker 1: it's literally just like you filming yourself, and that one
Speaker 1: will get a million views, and it's like, what the hell,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I do know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely familiar with that, and it's just the name
Speaker 1: you Also, the other funny thing about TikTok is you
Speaker 1: never know what side like because if you're doing something polarizing,
Speaker 1: like obviously there's an audience that agrees on one pole,
Speaker 1: or there's an audience that disagrees on another pole, or
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll do things and I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: like people will totally relate to this, and like I'll
Speaker 1: just get a ton of hate from like the polar
Speaker 1: opposite side. So you might just hit a different, like
Speaker 1: a different side of TikTok that you didn't know existed,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, this was not received appropriately, Like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just take this down, Like this was misinterpreted.
Speaker 1: So where do you think the future of TikTok lies? Like,
Speaker 1: what what is TikTok in five years? Is it like Instagram,
Speaker 1: you know, where it just completely continues to blow up?
Speaker 1: Is it like, what's the what was the the app
Speaker 1: that blew up last year? Not chat room that he
Speaker 1: was though, um camp fire or something like that. No,
Speaker 1: it was oh house, like clubhouse was the thing and
Speaker 1: now it's nowhere to be found. So do you think
Speaker 1: TikTok is going more in that direction or like in
Speaker 1: the direction of Instagram where it's just going to continue
Speaker 1: going up and up and up and up. I think
Speaker 1: it'll absolutely I think TikTok is absolutely the future. I
Speaker 1: think anyone who's a creator is completely not doing that.
Speaker 1: They're doing themselves a disservice if they're not on it.
Speaker 1: I absolutely think that TikTok, even for like brand collaborations,
Speaker 1: just for like getting an audience, I think TikTok is
Speaker 1: the future. I think the reason that TikTok is absolutely
Speaker 1: killing Instagram is you get personality, like you actually like
Speaker 1: you can only get so much out of photo and
Speaker 1: unless you're an absolute supermodel that like everyone in the
Speaker 1: world just wants to like look and all at You're
Speaker 1: just so limited what you can do within a photo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thousand percent. It's it's so crazy, man, this whole new
Speaker 1: world of social media. And I'm just trying to just
Speaker 1: post videos of Tom Brady on there, you know. And
Speaker 1: Kelsey just launched her TikTok though, can you give her
Speaker 1: some tips on how she can blow up? Come on?
Speaker 1: So I kind of give you a little bit there,
Speaker 1: like if you have something that if it's not broke,
Speaker 1: don't fix it. Like if you have something it's like
Speaker 1: working and TikTok and it does like keep going with that.
Speaker 1: Like in like I said, I tried to like branch
Speaker 1: away from like doing like like the heart related stuff,
Speaker 1: and every time I did, it would just flop and
Speaker 1: I was like whatever, man, Like I guess this is
Speaker 1: this is my past, this is my journey now. Like heard,
Speaker 1: when you look at a TikTok or when you're making
Speaker 1: a TikTok, you need to sit back and say, what
Speaker 1: is gonna make someone love this so much that like
Speaker 1: would you look at this and send it like texted
Speaker 1: to your best friend or would you look at this
Speaker 1: and like texted or would you tag your like whoever
Speaker 1: you're talking to, if you're if you have a girlfriend
Speaker 1: or boyfriend, whoever it is, like, would you tag them
Speaker 1: in this? And like this is so us, Like what
Speaker 1: would trigger you to share this? Because likes are limited,
Speaker 1: comments don't do as much as you think shares. If
Speaker 1: you can get someone to share a TikTok, that's how.
Speaker 1: That's the difference between like a hundred thousand and like
Speaker 1: a million or two million or three. Like my highest
Speaker 1: TikTok was like binge eating trash food all day and
Speaker 1: I think every mother in the Middle America was like
Speaker 1: I eat oreos during the middle of the day too,
Speaker 1: Like I totally really, Well, there you go if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, and Kelsey, I hope you're listening to
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you would have to pay for that
Speaker 1: advice anywhere else. So Brett, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate it. Be sure to follow Brett
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Brett, what's your TikTok handle? It is Brett W.
Speaker 1: Robinson on all platforms. Perfect, So if you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: go follow Brett W. Robinson on TikTok on Instagram. I'm
Speaker 1: sure on Twitter as well. Um, we hope it's not
Speaker 1: too long until we see on our TV again. Definitely
Speaker 1: won't be long until we see on TikTok again. Brett,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thanks, guys,
Speaker 1: you gonna thank you. Thanks Brett. All right, welcome back
Speaker 1: to help I suck at dating. And of course we
Speaker 1: have a very special guest is back with us this week.
Speaker 1: It is your favorite, our favorite. It is Mark. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna screw up your last name, dude, Moletski. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: such respect. Um, No, that's not how you say my name.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, but not hold on, hold on, I
Speaker 1: don't how many years have we known each other now?
Speaker 1: Do not? Solid? Three? At least? That's it, Dean, Dean
Speaker 1: nailing it. Hey, listen, I show up on time, okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough. And when we send you on my die
Speaker 1: you know where it is. All right, we'll hop out
Speaker 1: an email. This one strikes me as um somewhat above
Speaker 1: our pay grade. But let's see what I can do
Speaker 1: for Tyler. Tyler says, my girlfriend is struggled with depression
Speaker 1: on and off throughout her life, but recently she's been
Speaker 1: going through a really hard time. She barely sleeps, or
Speaker 1: eats or even speaks to me. I want to be
Speaker 1: there for her, but this is the first time I've
Speaker 1: seen her like this, and I think she needs more
Speaker 1: help than I can give her. Every time I bring
Speaker 1: up the topic of seeing a therapist or going on
Speaker 1: meds again, she says she doesn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I want to respect her boundaries, but I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get concerned. How do I approach having a conversation with
Speaker 1: my girlfriend about getting help for her mental health without
Speaker 1: making her feel a cornered or put on the spot.
Speaker 1: Any advice would help, uh? Well, first and foremost, I
Speaker 1: think it's great that he's even asking this question. Um, Kelsey,
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you think. What do you
Speaker 1: think about this? That's a tough one, UM. I have
Speaker 1: friends and family that struggle with very bad depression, and
Speaker 1: it's never an easy topic to bring up to them. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'm a firm believer, and if someone doesn't want
Speaker 1: to get help, you can't help them. So you can
Speaker 1: be there for them, you can support them, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if they're not wanting to
Speaker 1: get better help themselves, there's only so much you can do. Um,
Speaker 1: So when it comes down to it, you either just
Speaker 1: have to be there for them and love them and
Speaker 1: support them, or you have to make the decision and
Speaker 1: walk away. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's that's pretty good advice.
Speaker 1: What do you think is? I think it's just I
Speaker 1: agree with Mark. This is definitely above our pay grades.
Speaker 1: Like you know, definitely still continue to try to see
Speaker 1: is you can go see a therapist or get some help, um,
Speaker 1: because you know you don't want to see anybody go through,
Speaker 1: especially your significant other. I would say it's something that
Speaker 1: might help Tyler is if you suggest that maybe you
Speaker 1: guys go to therapy together instead of having heard just
Speaker 1: go on her own. Maybe there's some way you can
Speaker 1: suggest about you guys going together and doing this together
Speaker 1: as a couple. Maybe that will entice her to help you.
Speaker 1: Should I answer it? On? Oh God, shall dispute myself.
Speaker 1: Ye see who it is? Come on, I'll just coffee
Speaker 1: house allounge. This is jaredy but help you? Are this
Speaker 1: going fresh today? Yes? We can do it to go
Speaker 1: on her? Oh my gosh, absolutely hold on one second,
Speaker 1: excuse me, folks, I have two two aco to go on?
Speaker 1: Er So talk amongst yourself over wow wow wow. Um. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: Jared's got bigger fish to pry. I guess um. I
Speaker 1: do want to say, though, I agree with what Jared
Speaker 1: is saying, I also really agree with what Kelsey is
Speaker 1: saying to you can't kind of force someone to go
Speaker 1: to therapy. In my personal experience, I've been to therapy
Speaker 1: like three different stints in therapy. The first two were
Speaker 1: urged to buy well, the first one by my parents,
Speaker 1: the second one by my dad and I was like
Speaker 1: a teenager. And then the third one I finally went
Speaker 1: to on my own accord, Like I was the one
Speaker 1: that made the conscious decision to go to therapy, and
Speaker 1: the first two stints like didn't have any benefit whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I hated it. I didn't want to be there. I
Speaker 1: was angry at everyone for making me be there in
Speaker 1: the first place, and you get nothing out of it.
Speaker 1: And then by the time I finally decided that I
Speaker 1: want to go there on my own terms, I like
Speaker 1: benefited so much from it. So I fully agree with
Speaker 1: what Kelsey is saying, like, if you're going against your will,
Speaker 1: you're not really going to get much out of it.
Speaker 1: But then what Jared said, I think was great, like
Speaker 1: suggesting that they go to therapy together. I think is
Speaker 1: a really good solution for that. I do too. My
Speaker 1: question is would this make things better or worse if
Speaker 1: you were to go to someone else who notes or
Speaker 1: like maybe her mom or dad, not to like team
Speaker 1: up an intervention with her, because I feel like that
Speaker 1: would go badly, but maybe gets some advice from them
Speaker 1: because they've probably been through this with her many times
Speaker 1: on what he should do. Is there a way into
Speaker 1: hers there, maybe there's some advice from other people who
Speaker 1: know her. Yeah, I think, Uh, well, Kelsey, what do
Speaker 1: you think? I think that if you trust the family
Speaker 1: and their opinion and know that they have her best
Speaker 1: interests in your best interests at heart, then absolutely should
Speaker 1: go and try to figure out a way to make
Speaker 1: this situation better. But I've personally been in situations where um,
Speaker 1: I don't get along with my significant other's family, and
Speaker 1: then it can cause more of an issue. So I
Speaker 1: think it's all based off the circumstance. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: will say too, I think that part of the one
Speaker 1: of the benefits of having a therapist is that they're
Speaker 1: so far disconnected from the situation. So they can kind
Speaker 1: of give like unbiased impartial advice, which is huge. Like
Speaker 1: family members obviously have so much bias involves the in
Speaker 1: the you know, their opinions and all those things. So
Speaker 1: I almost think it's like never a bad idea maybe
Speaker 1: to bring in a family member that is always looking
Speaker 1: out for the best of the person. But I think
Speaker 1: a therapists purpose is so specific and like that third
Speaker 1: unbiased party perspective is super key in my opinion. But um,
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark, I don't disagree with what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I just think that there's like a different different situations
Speaker 1: for each thing you order. Is is is so busy that
Speaker 1: all the operators were busy and Jared had to take
Speaker 1: a call. I mean, just take the call. I'm very
Speaker 1: excited for Mark to listen back to this voice memo
Speaker 1: because he will see he will hear me take the
Speaker 1: order of the b L t Ambrioch with mayonnaise, And
Speaker 1: I gave him a nice detailed explanation of the chips
Speaker 1: that we use on the side at the end like
Speaker 1: a little Easter egg for everyone that sticks through the credits,
Speaker 1: and we have a pickle if you eat it uh
Speaker 1: in in the coffee shop in the in the restaurants,
Speaker 1: I don't get to pick the order, not on the
Speaker 1: to go order. No pickle because pickle to go it's
Speaker 1: like what we wrap it up in a lotting foild.
Speaker 1: I no, no pickles to go. It's inscentivizes. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Jimmy John's all to go. Pickles at Jimmy John's are
Speaker 1: so good. All right, let's get to the next email. Alright, alright, alright, alright.
Speaker 1: I like Dean's idea. I'll put the I'll put the
Speaker 1: order at the end of the episode if you want
Speaker 1: to listen through. Yeah, alright, next email. This is from anonymous.
Speaker 1: I've been dating my boyfriend for a year now and
Speaker 1: he's great. We met on a dating app and we're
Speaker 1: doing long distance, only an eight hour drive away. Not
Speaker 1: bad not bad are very different. What is what is bad?
Speaker 1: If that's not what is bad? I have always wanted
Speaker 1: to be with someone who prioritizes me, but my boyfriend
Speaker 1: is starting to suffocate me. He never hangs out with
Speaker 1: his friends anymore. He always wants to FaceTime every night,
Speaker 1: talk all day, etcetera. It's getting to the point where
Speaker 1: you started to lose his ends, and I'm starting to
Speaker 1: resent him for taking up too much of my time.
Speaker 1: I want him to prioritize me what it matters, But
Speaker 1: I also want if they have our own lives. How
Speaker 1: do I bring this up to him without hurting his feelings?
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt like this, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: back seat here, you guys go, well this email Anonymous.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're a very nice human being, and you
Speaker 1: listen to help my suck a dating, so you obviously
Speaker 1: have great taste. I'm I'm curious if you talk about
Speaker 1: this with your boyfriend and then your boyfriend does take
Speaker 1: a back seat and stops giving you so much attention,
Speaker 1: if you're going to regret your decision, and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss all the attention that you're were getting. So
Speaker 1: what I would say is just be careful what you
Speaker 1: ask for, because if you're asking for less attention, be
Speaker 1: prepared to get less attention. That's all I would say. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that really was very helpful, Kelsey, What do you think?
Speaker 1: I agree? But at the same time, too, you have
Speaker 1: to have your own life, like your relationship shouldn't be
Speaker 1: just the tub, Like you have to have your own
Speaker 1: things for yourself. Otherwise, like I understand you get suffocated
Speaker 1: because I've been in a relationship like that, so I
Speaker 1: understand where she's coming from. Um, but she just needs
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with him. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I mean even even right now, for instance, I'm in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas by myself. Caitlin is in Los Angeles by
Speaker 1: herself because I was like, listen, I we just spent
Speaker 1: Christmas with my family. We were just in Columbia with
Speaker 1: a bunch of our friends. I just need to go
Speaker 1: and be alone. I just need to be alone by
Speaker 1: myself for like a day and a half. And she
Speaker 1: was like, great, see you later. I think just by
Speaker 1: like telling them, like, just tell the other person, like,
Speaker 1: I just need some space, just a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: just like to decompress. That's how I recharged my batteries.
Speaker 1: I've always been this way. Um. And if they like
Speaker 1: don't respond to it, well, then maybe that's not necessarily
Speaker 1: the right person for you, because in my opinion, that's
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest biggest factors in any relationship
Speaker 1: is like, is the person that you're dating going to
Speaker 1: like give you the space that you need when you
Speaker 1: ask for it? And if they say no, or if
Speaker 1: they say yes and don't follow through with it, then like,
Speaker 1: then that's going to be your life for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. If you stay with this person, so
Speaker 1: be clear and like do it, and if they don't
Speaker 1: honor what you're asking for, then either you know, press
Speaker 1: them on a little harder, or you know, start to
Speaker 1: find an exit strategy if you will. I guess it
Speaker 1: might be a little harsh, but that's how I feel
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like you, Deene, I need time to
Speaker 1: myself to like I can be together for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time, but then after that I need my
Speaker 1: alone time. Or I just I mean, I don't understand
Speaker 1: how people don't love being alone. Like being alone is
Speaker 1: one of the best things in the world. I agree
Speaker 1: for a short period of time, I totally agree. I
Speaker 1: like my alone time. The only point I was making
Speaker 1: is that I've just just you know, be prepared for
Speaker 1: less attention. That's all because I feel like I've seen this.
Speaker 1: I've seen this before where my friends are like they're
Speaker 1: too suffocating. I need like, I need time, I need space.
Speaker 1: They asked for space, they get space, and then they
Speaker 1: feel like the other person is stopped has stopped caring
Speaker 1: about them because they're like, well, now he's not doing
Speaker 1: this or now he's not doing that, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you ask for? Space? What do you want?
Speaker 1: So I would just say, you know, try to find
Speaker 1: that middle ground, as difficult as that is. What if
Speaker 1: they asked specifically for the pickle. What if they really like,
Speaker 1: they say, can I just please have a pickle because
Speaker 1: they're delicious at at Audrey specifically? What would you do?
Speaker 1: What if they really wanted to pickle chaired? What if
Speaker 1: you want two pickles two pickles. They come up and
Speaker 1: they beg for a pickle. I'll give him the pickle,
Speaker 1: but you try to get the two pickles. Do you
Speaker 1: know how much pickles are? They're not cheap pickles that
Speaker 1: I buy. If I eat in the restaurant, I get
Speaker 1: a free pickle. If I get a pickle to go,
Speaker 1: do I have to pay for the pickle? No? But
Speaker 1: if you ask for two pickles, you're paying for that
Speaker 1: second pickle. It's fair listen listening to help I suck
Speaker 1: your dating. If you really want to pickle from Audrey's
Speaker 1: Cocktail Lounge, you have to specifically ask for it for
Speaker 1: tack for it's a. It's a marketplace called Belmont. It's
Speaker 1: a local marketplace. They're very good locally. Pickles, you know, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like uh, I don't even know what type of pickle
Speaker 1: would that be called. It's like a cucumber, the gherkin?
Speaker 1: Is that a gherkin? Pickle? Aren't cucumbers? Pickles and pickles cucumbers?
Speaker 1: They are, but it's like a how they're made. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Pickles and cucumbers. That's the name of this episode,
Speaker 1: pickles and cucumbers. All right, Well, I think that's probably
Speaker 1: gonna just about do it for this episode. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think? Yeah, I gotta sell some pickles all there? Great,
Speaker 1: Jared's got pickles, Kelsey's got maybe pickles and marks probably
Speaker 1: a good. Thank you guys so much for joining us
Speaker 1: for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating? Kelsey,
Speaker 1: we are thank you so much for being our co
Speaker 1: host with us this week. Um. We hope that next
Speaker 1: time we talked to you we get a lot more
Speaker 1: of an inside scoop on what's going on through dating life,
Speaker 1: because hopefully there's a lot more to share. We'll see. Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, I just saw your birthday. You were
Speaker 1: born fourteen days before I was, so yeah, we're team Mary's.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's right, that's right. Um big thank you
Speaker 1: to Brett Robinson for joining us on this podcast this week.
Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out his TikTok's Brett W. Robinson
Speaker 1: on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, all that kind of stuff. Tyler.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you figure it out with your girlfriend. It sounds
Speaker 1: like she's in a tough spot, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're a good guy. So hopefully guys be able to
Speaker 1: figure it out together. Um Mark, thanks for reading our emails,
Speaker 1: and uh, I guess there's nothing left to say, so
Speaker 1: maybe next week we'll stuck just a little bit less.
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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcast. All right, what can
Speaker 1: I get for you? Yeah? Of course it usually comes
Speaker 1: on brioche bread. Um, do you want that? We could
Speaker 1: also do chibbatta, We could do wheat bread wrap. Did
Speaker 1: you want to add anything to it? Obviously just comes
Speaker 1: with the biggest lessons man. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to cheese or mayonnaise or anything we do
Speaker 1: as sided chips. Sure, it's just to be able t
Speaker 1: embrios with mayonnaise and a bagg of chips on the side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be ready in five to ten minutes. Thanks man.