1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: What is up straight firefam? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: Fire for Christmas Day, Thursday, March twenty first. Yes, the 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament for me is the equivalent of Christmas Day 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: when it begins. And I'll challenge anybody to this. I 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: know the Super Bowl is awesome, it's also like four hours, okay, 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: like Conference Championship Sunday awesome, great, two games, six hours. 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: We're talking about four days of wal to Wall basketball begins. 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: Now Basically everything else shuts down. I don't even know 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: if there's NBA games the next four days. Obviously there 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: are no real NFL news. Can can crowbar in here 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: to interrupt the games? It is wal to Wall basketball 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the next year days and then I think starting at 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: pretty much noon, Yeah, starting at noon East Coast time 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: or maybe one. You get Saturday and Sunday a lot 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: of games. 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Now. 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: This weekend will be a challenge for me as my 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: daughter's team's playing in the fifth grade championship, trying to 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: go back to back Like I'm Jordan ninety six ninety seven, 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: Oh I may no, I can't play that Drake song. 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. We might win. We should win. I 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: think we're favored. The other team asked me to push 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: the game back an hour. Get this, because their team 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: is celebrating. There's this thing in LA called Adventure Guides. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: At Rob's kids too young for this, but basically the 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: schools you get together groups in like your grade and 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: you go on like trips the build bonding, like camping 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: or they call it glamping out here in LA. Some 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: people do ski trips. I skip all the ski trips. 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: Some people go Palm Springs and live it up. And 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: our opposing team is going to be in Palm Springs 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: for their last like Adventure Guides trip, and they're like, 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: can you push the game back an hour? I'm like, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: all right, we'll see what we can do. So we 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: moved it back and my son, he's in the semifinals 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: Saturday and if we win final Sunday. So it's a 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: tough weekend with the tournament for me. You know, I 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: love the tournament. And we're gonna start with one quick 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: story on the tournament. That's kind of it made some 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: noise yesterday and that was Tom Izzo, the great Michigan 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: State coach, the legend coming out and kind of sort of. 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was aggressive, but people interpreted it 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: this way. And this is what happens with social media. 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes stuff gets lost in the sauce. Back in the 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: days where the newspapers were gatekeepers this kind of thing, 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: I don't think this would happen, right. So Izzo comes 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: out and is talking about the size of the field, 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: and he said he would like it expanded. You know, 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: he would certainly like it expanded. So teams outside of 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: the projected field, for instance, who lose out to bid Steelers, 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 3: You guys know what they are, a team that wasn't 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: supposed to win their conference, was a mediocre team eighteen 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: and sixteen or whatever, and then they just get hot 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: and make the field. And Izzo comes out and then 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: they take a spot from a big school like I 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Saint John or a seat in Hall this year, and 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: Izo said, I feel for some teams that didn't get 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: in when you have those automatic bids, I'm not sure 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: I understand why. But the conference tournament things, you can 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: go like Purdue seventeen and three, dominate the conference and lose. 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 3: It's okay if the second place team, but I think 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: that makes it hard why some teams will get left out. 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: So I think what he's saying is, let's expand the field, 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: and we kind of sort of need the big boys 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: in the field. And I guys, there's no denying that. Okay, Yes, 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: upsets are good. Everybody roots for a Cinderella story opening weekend. 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like, no disrespect to Fau. Quickly, if 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: I asked, you quit named the final four from last 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: year Connecticut they won San Diego State. I think you 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: guys remember them hit a shot at the buzzer in 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: the final four against wait for Fau, Yukon whooped up 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: on Miami. Okay, it was kind of a forget about 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: final four. I mean the games weren't close for Yukon. 76 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: Now San Diego State had the buzzer shot, but the 77 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: ratings were kind of abysmal, And I think what ISO 78 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: would like, and again Io wants this. I'm usually a 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: fan of underdogs. I kind of side with him. We 80 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: need I'm fine with expanding the field just for the record, 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: but we need like the good teams making runs like 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: that's just the reality. It's like, you don't want backup 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: quarterbacks deep in the NFL playoffs, you don't want, you know, 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: Brian Windhor said it that really well with the NBA playoffs. Ideally, 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: if you could pick an NBA finals, the league would 86 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: love Lakers versus Lakers, because if the Lakers, of all 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: people are that they're polarizing. No disrespect to FAU or SDSU, 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: but they just they don't register the way at Duke 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: of Kentucky does. I'm not saying those teams should be 90 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: in it every year, but I think ISO makes a 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: decent point. Now I'll add this Rob before you attack me, 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: if you want to attack me. NFL playoffs has expanded 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: the season by one game. They have expanded the playoffs 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: as well. NBA now as a play in college football's 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: expanding the playoffs. I love the NCAA tournam as much 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: as anybody. I don't have a problem if they say, oh, 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna bump it from sixty eight to eighty, I 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: don't care. Really, it doesn't really impact me. Just make 99 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: sure you keep the same format, just four days, right 100 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: and try not to tinker too much with the schedule, 101 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: which is awesome. Four days this week Thursday through Sunday, 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: and then next week Thursday through Sunday and then you 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: get the final four. What is adding I don't know, 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: sixteen teams. Is that gonna mess things up? Maybe you 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: end up giving the number one seed buys I don't know, 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: so they don't have to lose to sixteens that had 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: never happened before, and now it's happened twice in the 108 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: last I don't know, five years, So Rob, I don't 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: really have an issue with Izzo's comments. Of course, there 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: was outrage on social media, but that's what social media 111 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: is for, right phony outrage. 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it's for. And it's one of 113 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: the reasons why this podcast is booming because you got 114 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: a lot of fake outge over Jason's takes about Steph 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Curry or Kitton Clark or what Cam Newton and that 116 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: kind of bills the audience. But when I saw is 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: those comments, I interpreted them differently. I interpreted them through 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the lens of something that SEC Commissioner Greg Sankie said 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: last week or mayb about a week and a half ago. 120 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: Now. 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: He was talking to ESPN's Pete Damil front of the 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: show about the idea of changes coming to the tournament, 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: whether it be expansion like as you alluded to or 124 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: just fundamental changes in the way that it's structured, and 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: what he actually floated out was not expansion but contraction. 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: And the reason why he said that is he specifically 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: referenced UCLA making a run from the first four to 128 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: the final four and twenty twenty one and Syracuse getting 129 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to the sweet sixteen from the play in in twenty eighteen, 130 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: and he was basically saying, like, hey, this just shows 131 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: Power Conference teams that are quote unquote on the fringe 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: are more capable of making a deep run than these 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: mid major programs that are not ever really considered as 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: making it deep run. Like you know, I know right now, 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Long Beach State I went to college. They're getting a 136 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of pub right now because Dan Monson got fired 137 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: and then they win the tournament and now they get 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: into the tournament. So it's a fun story, but nobody's 139 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: actually expecting Long Beach Day to do anything in the tournament. 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Wow, so they drew Arizona, I mean. 141 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean Arizona. Arizona always finds ways to screw things up. 142 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: But anyways, so flash forward to Wednesday morning, and part 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: of that conversation about the expanding tournament that you allude 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: to with tom Izzo. He said this quote, I'm a 145 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Division two guy, you know, so I'm always looking for 146 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the little guys. I'm not very big myself, so I 147 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: always have an appreciation and maybe that would be a 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: reason to expand. But then he adds here, I just 149 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: think what's happening now. Everybody likes the upsets the first weekend, 150 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure moving on that's what's best for 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: the game. I think it's got to be looked at 152 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: more seriously. So that to me sounds like he kind 153 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: of sides with SEC Commission Greg Sanky. Everybody he says 154 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: that they love the tournament because of the Cinderella story, 155 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: because you can have a VCU, you can have a Valparaiso, 156 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: you can have an FAU from last season making a 157 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: deep run, and everyone gets so excited about It's the 158 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: little engine that could is something everybody kind of gravitates to, 159 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: and that's part of the appeal of the tournament. So 160 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: we thought, because if you just look at last year's 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: tournament and you alluded to it, there right at the 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: top the final four, San Diego State, Ukon, FAU and Miami, 163 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: despite having the highest rated opening weekend and tournament history. 164 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: The ratings slowly went down as the Cinderella teams kept advancing. Okay, 165 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: the Elite eight was down fourteen percent, the Final four 166 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: down seventeen percent. The National Championship down nineteen percent from 167 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,359 Speaker 1: the year before, which made it the least watch championship 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: game in college basketball history. I know that the ratings 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: can be fudget a little bit. You've talked about this before, 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: how you know the way we consume television is different 171 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: than it was before. But I think that that is 172 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: actually holding water because when we say we want to 173 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: watch college basketball and we watch the tournament, we're not 174 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: saying we want to watch it because we want to 175 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: see Long Beach State against Arizona. We're saying because we 176 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: want to see and we're hopeful that we're gonna get 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: Yukon in North Carolina, that we're gonna get the heavyweights 178 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: that have been duking it out in the top five 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: all season long, that eventually one of them is going 180 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: to get to the Final four and they're gonna go 181 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: toe to tone. We're really gonna find out who the 182 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: best team is. I mentioned this on the Pot earlier 183 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: this week. The way the tournament is structured fundamentally, is 184 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: not designed to actually find the best team. It is 185 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: designed to get viewership, to get people to watch and 186 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: tune in, because anything can happen in a one and 187 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: done format. And I think what Izo and Sankee and 188 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: guys like that are suggesting is it sounds good in theory, 189 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: but all of the numbers say what people really want 190 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: is the Blue Blades. 191 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: It's just like in college football, you know, like Alabama 192 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: Georgia was great, you know, great games, but really was 193 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: it was more regional than anything, and the rest of 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: the country is kind of getting tired. So now they're 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: expanding it. You toss Washington in against Michigan, You're like, oh, 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: Michigan Harborball. Like a lot of it is storylines. The 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: weird thing is I've you know, I talked to a 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: lot of people about the torm who you got final 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: for blah blah blah, and I had somebody say to me, yeah, 200 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm into it. I got some brackets. I'm more interested 201 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: in Caitlin Clark and Iowa. And it's like, oh, well, 202 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: that's because more people know Caitlin Clark a lot, even 203 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: though our Baycott's been at UNC for like fifteen years. 204 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 3: Nobody knows who he is. Here's a big six to 205 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: eleven guy, rebounds and dunks and nothing special about him. 206 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: R J. 207 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: Davis has been around. There just aren't the name players, 208 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: Like who's the biggest name on Connecticut? If you're outside 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: the Northeast, it's like, oh yeah, they had a first 210 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 3: team All American Tristan Newton. They got the seven footer 211 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: like Houston. I know, friend Rachella loves Houston, came on 212 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: here talking about Shed and how good their team is. 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: But like a lot of people don't know like Duke Sky, 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: Philip Kowski. Kentucky's got three young young dudes who are 215 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: really good colect kind of banged up for Marquette. Like, 216 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: there just aren't that those names in college hoops. So 217 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: what ISO is probably hoping is the Brands breakthrough. Well, 218 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, what about a Creighton final four against 219 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: I don't know Iowa State. Is that gonna work? We'll 220 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: have to see, but Rob will quickly give our final four. 221 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm in a million brackets, not a million, but many, 222 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: even where it's like twenty bucks a bracket. I'm doing 223 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: five brackets in that just so I can have five 224 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: different champs and have my chance to spread out. I 225 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: will give you Auburn in the East. I think they 226 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: take down Yukon. I will go Houston in the South, 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: so two number ones. I will go Tennessee over Perdue 228 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: narrowly in the Midwest, and then in the West, I'm 229 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: going Arizona, Arizona. So I've got one, one, two, two, 230 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: not out on many limbs I do have. You know, 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: I've got Iowa State in one bracket. I've got Purdue 232 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: in several. I really like UNC a lot. I have 233 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: money on futures on them. But I don't have any 234 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: nobody out. Let's see, I don't have anybody outside the 235 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: top four. I don't think cracking the final four. I 236 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: definitely have no five. Let me see the other fives. 237 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I don't have Gonzaga. I have Saint Mary's making a 238 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: run to the final four in one bracket, but they 239 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: might be out bounced by Grand Canyon. sEH. I'm very 240 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: fired up for the torm. It's gonna be all over 241 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: the place. So I have a lot of brackets. Who 242 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: you got, rob Well. 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: I've only done two brackets because, unlike you, I'm out 244 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: a degenerate gambler and I don't have money to blow 245 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: like that. And I've actually already had to adjust my 246 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: bracket twice since I first submitted it, and the reason 247 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: being the biggest one, which the news broke yesterday, that 248 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: kid from Kansas was ruled out for the tournament. Now, 249 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people who believes that coaches play 250 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: a huge role in whether or not your team advances, 251 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and I'm a big believer in bill self, So I thought, 252 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: even though it might have been the best team that 253 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: they've had, I had them making runs to the final four. 254 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: And as soon as that kid was ruled out, I'm like, well, 255 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: cross that name off the list. Let's go ahead and 256 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: redo this thing all over again. So I've settled. And 257 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: what's funny is my brackets are the same across, so 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't really help myself if one of them bus, 259 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: they both bust. 260 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: But here we go. 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I got Yukon and North Carolina both in the final four. 262 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's much of a shock to anybody. 263 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: When I had to remove Kansas, I settled on Tennessee 264 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to be my third and my fourth one. I have 265 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason for picking this team other than 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: when John Henson was on the show a couple of 267 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: weeks ago. He was swearing by the Florida Gators and 268 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: what he liked from them as a long shot dark 269 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: horse to make a run in the tournament. And sure enough, 270 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: the day that we had him on, I believe they 271 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: played Alabama that night and they crushed out about him. 272 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: And he's like, once that happens, the odds are gonna shift. 273 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: Now they kind of fumble a live down the stretch. 274 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, John Henson does this 275 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: for a living. I like to think he's a sharp guy. 276 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: He signed real sharp on this podcast. So I put 277 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Florida as my fourth final four team. 278 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: Ooh spicy as a seventh set as a seventh seed, yes, sir, 279 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: so interesting. They might face Marquette this weekend. And there's 280 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: a lot of speculation on Tyler Kolek. He is practicing. 281 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: I'll just say I had a I know someone who 282 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: was a practice and said, yes, colk practice, but he 283 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: was not one hundred percent. He did practice the whole time, 284 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: but he ain't going all out and I just I 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: do worry about the turnaround for two days later, coming 286 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: off the oblique injury to play against it. What's a 287 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: pretty rugged Florida team. Now Florida had an injury. I 288 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: think their big guy got hurt. But again, like these 289 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: are all minute show. I do think that that little 290 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: quadrant Kentucky's kind of good. But I think Oakland, you know, 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: we've talked about it. Oakland could cover, and Texas Tech 292 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: and NC State should be a battle. So yeah, that's 293 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: an interesting pick on Florida. 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If memory serves rob, he is now 326 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: on the lead announcing team for ESPN. 327 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Right, that is correct. 328 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that's got to be a first an announcer in 329 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: a sport is partner with the sport's biggest name on 330 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: a podcast. I can't think that's ever happened. I mean, 331 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: you know, Joe Buck's not calling a Super Bowl and 332 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: doing a podcast with Patrick Mahomes. You know, nobody's really 333 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: made a point of that. I thought the interesting angle 334 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: here was so remember JJ Reddick went at it recently, 335 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: going after folks on ESPN, Kendrick Perkins and these other clowns, 336 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: and essentially was like, hey, listen, the NBA audience is dumb. 337 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: You guys just want to talk about firing a coach. 338 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: This guy the goat blah blah blah. I broke down 339 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: a video of Zion and nobody watched it. But the 340 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: second I say this coach is underwhelmed, it's like two 341 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: million views going viral and he's like disappointed in NBA 342 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: fans and the hot take artist over there at ESPN. 343 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: So what happens, Like what three weeks later, a month later, 344 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: Lebron partners with Reddick. You see he's playing I'm just 345 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: telling you, Lebron, is he gets it. So now Lebron's 346 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 3: got a pot and he pops off in the first one, 347 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 3: and Rob, you and I are both Lebron fans. This 348 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 3: he's got. He's doing this not an agenda. I don't 349 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: want to make it sound duplicitous, but he's very thoughtful 350 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 3: with what he says. I'm not saying it's scripted or 351 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: fake or phony, but I think he has just like 352 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: all of us, Lebron has takes and thoughts that are 353 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: non mainstream, and he gets them off and then it 354 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: starts a discussion. For instance, he says, Jason Tatum has 355 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: accomplished so much. Why do people why is there a 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: pushback against him? He's been to four conference finals and 357 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: he's not even twenty six years old. What the hell? 358 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: And the most influential guys I've ever seen in the 359 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: league are Stephan Iverson said interesting. I don't know, Rob. 360 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to get two conspiracy theorists here, but 361 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: both of those felt like they had allior motives. I'm 362 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: just curious. I'll speculate to you. Mine on Tatum was 363 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: could we just pump the brakes on all these European 364 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: guys dominating the league? Look at fricking Jason Tatum. Every 365 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: year he's in the conference final, his numbers are incredible, 366 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: He's put his first team All NBA. Why are we 367 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: only giving the international players credit. Let's give some to Tatum, 368 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: who's almost undervalue. Like Jokic was getting this treatment last 369 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: year and then he wins a championship and now yo Yogic. 370 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, top twenty player. I admit I fall 371 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: victim to that. Now. My second take on the Curry 372 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Iverson thing is it's just a little ding on whether 373 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: or not Jordan was influential, and you could say Jordan 374 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: was part of the dream team that globally helped grow basketball. 375 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: But he was part of the team. I think the 376 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: big guy on that team, honestly that the name because 377 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: of his mouth was Charles Barklay. He was talking a 378 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: lot of trash, and I'm almost certain remember in Charles 379 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: Barkley's problem he was like MVP of league and just 380 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: an absolute truck because at six ' six he was 381 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: bored in going coast to coast and donkey and like 382 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: the international people were like scared of him. I mean, 383 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: there's been much has been written about this, so I 384 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: almost think Lebron's trying to say listen, yeah, sure without 385 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: saying sure. Jordan's massively influential with the Sneaker brand, of course, 386 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: yeah sure. And Space Jam and I did Space Jam 387 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: two and we set records. Yeah, but you went influential. 388 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: Iverson impacted the streets with a swag, and Steph Curry 389 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: impacted the suburbs with his swag. And I don't know, 390 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm not being this non negative, not a negative take, 391 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: just I'm trying to get inside the head of Lebron, 392 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: which is tough. But I don't know. Rob, your your 393 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: thoughts on his takes? 394 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: Well, first off, I think the word you were looking 395 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: for with Lebron is he's very calculated. 396 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: Yes, there it is. 397 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: No like he does. He doesn't do or say anything 398 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: ever unless it's well thought out, probably discussed with members 399 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: of his team so that he knows it's not going 400 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: to negatively impact his brand, right, Like you know, I 401 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: don't think complimenting Jason Tatum or Steph Curray Allen Iverson 402 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: is ever going to be viewed as like a negative 403 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: thing unless you're actively trying to make it a negative. 404 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two as far as the way 405 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: this pod. I watched the podcast. I thought it was great. 406 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: You know, Zach Low, friend of the show that he 407 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: hasn't been on. We both like Zach Low. Zach Load 408 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: also does a lot of x's and o's and breakdowns 409 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: of the way the game is played. So it's not 410 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: like these types of podcasts are not out there if 411 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: you're willing to go look for him. 412 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: Right. 413 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: It's just that what you see on television usually is 414 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: not what you're gonna get in that space, because, as 415 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: you alluded to, most sports fans are dumb. Like, most 416 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: sports fans don't necessarily break down film. Most sports fans 417 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: don't necessarily care about a box and one and a 418 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: two three zone and the flex offense. They just say, hey, 419 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Lebron passed up the game winner, like that's that's all 420 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: they that's all they know about, right, So I understand 421 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: that part. I will say, however, it's funny that JJ 422 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: and Lebron when they put this pot out there, that 423 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: they build it as this is the one that's going 424 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: to show you how the mind of a basketball player works. 425 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: It's going to show you the deeper side than what 426 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: you would see normally on sports talk television, radio, podcast 427 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: but the two biggest headlines that come out of that 428 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: podcast had nothing to do with x's and o's and 429 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: breaking down film and YadA YadA. It was Jason Tatum 430 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: and whether or not he's being unfairly criticized by members 431 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: of the media for not winning a championship, and whether 432 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: or not Alan Iverson and Steph Career are really the 433 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: two most influential players in modern history. So, you know, 434 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: I like, did the intentions really hit their mark? Probably 435 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: not as far as what you said the influential commentary, 436 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: and whether or not it's a conscious effort to kind 437 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: of undercut Michael Jordan, I would lean no. I think 438 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: it was more of a conscious effort to blow up 439 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: Steph Curry than anything else, because Lebron James and Steph 440 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: Curry are going to be forever linked in their NBA 441 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: history because they faced off so much in the finals. 442 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Steph obviously got the better of Lebron more times than not. 443 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: You know, as much as you want to give the 444 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: three to one come back a lot of credit, the 445 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: fact is that Steph beat him three out of four times. 446 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: So if you're Lebron James and your clutch sports and 447 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: you're part of his camp, and you want to frame 448 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: the discussion in such a way that like, yeah, we 449 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: may have lost to Steph Curry, but we also lost 450 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: to the most influential player in modern NBA histor, We 451 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: lost to the greatest shootout of all time. We lost 452 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: to the guy who single handedly changed the way basketball 453 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: is played moving forward. So all of those things are true, 454 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: and I think plenty of people probably even believe that. 455 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would agree that Steph Curry, 456 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: pound for pound, is arguably the most influence you'll player ever, 457 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: not even just the Monero history, because of the way 458 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: that his shooting has changed the way the entire league plays, 459 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: not individual players. The entire league now is playing this way. 460 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: So that's true. But if you're Lebron James, you saying 461 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: that is a way to push your own agenda quietly 462 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: while also not alienating a large group of fans, if 463 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: that makes sense. 464 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: So this helps him nudge Curry into the top ten, 465 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: if you will, if you're into that discussion while simultaneously 466 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: helping his case. Like Lebron, Michael could never get past 467 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas and Bird Celtics just couldn't until the very 468 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: end when they were done. But Lebron he got past 469 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: Curry with the greatest comeback in the history of the sport. 470 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: The only guy he only think he can't relitigate is 471 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks one, right, right, the I don't know, 472 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: it's funny Dirk. Dirk never comes up in any of 473 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: these discussions, does he. No. 474 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: I mean, the only person who ever brought him up 475 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: was Chris Brussard, and he got roasted for that on 476 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: social media for weeks when he said that. I think 477 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: he said that if Victor wember Yama had a career 478 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: that ended up being Dirk novitzky b disappointment. I don't 479 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: know if you remember that one. 480 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: I mean, hold on, I'm just spitballing here. Dirk or 481 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: Charles Barkley, who had a better career Dirk? Yeah, they 482 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: both got the MVP once Dirk won a finals MVP. 483 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: Dirk won a championship. But Barkley is a name, he's 484 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: out there, he's a wild man, he's on t end 485 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, right. 486 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Interesting, Dirk suffers from a lot of the same things 487 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: that Tim Duncan suffers from because he's not necessarily a 488 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: star in the in the way that we discussed them 489 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: the you know, the personality, the showmanship and all that 490 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that his game is very underappreciated historically. 491 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: So he's almost in like, you know, the great classic 492 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather. So Floyd Mayweather was a really really good boxer, 493 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: but he wasn't getting the purses that the big guys were, 494 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: so he he totally shifted and instead of just being 495 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather, he became Money Mayweather, throwing money around, buying vehicles, 496 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: being an asshole, like an ostentatious douche. But guess what, 497 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: his profile rose immensely. Everybody loved him and he got 498 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: mass He got the bag, if you will. So you know, 499 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: Mayweather was a very calculated move. Thank you for that 500 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 3: word earlier, Dirk. That's just that's that's not who Dirt is. 501 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: He was never gonna be that guy. Honestly, I don't 502 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: know that Curry's gonna be that guy to pump himself up, 503 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: do you. I mean, Tatum certainly is not going to 504 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: be that guy from what we know so far. Kevin 505 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: Durant is that guy, but I don't think that he's 506 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: got kind of the I don't think he has enough 507 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: in the in his his tree, do. 508 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: You no, No? And you know what's funny about Steph 509 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Curry is I agree with you. He's not the kind 510 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: of guy to publicly declare himself the great even calling 511 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: himself the greatest shooter, like he waited until after he 512 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: broke the record before I guess now you can say that, right, 513 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: So he's always been very publicly humble. The one thing 514 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: I will say, and I always kind of eats at 515 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: me a little bit, is that Steph Curry is one 516 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: of the most flamboyant trash talkers you know, historyonic guys 517 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: on the court that we've ever seen. The difference is 518 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: that because he's smiling, because he can barely grow a 519 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: beard and a go tee, nobody ever holds it against 520 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: him in the same way they might hold it against 521 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: like a Gary Payton or a Kevin Garnett. 522 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 3: Right that Gary Payton was in suffrable. I mean at 523 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: the time everybody loved him. He had the nickname right mouth. 524 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: And then you know. 525 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: But like you've seen, you've seen clips on social like 526 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Steph will get in your ear from all the way 527 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: across the court, like the things he says the Jalen Brown, 528 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: which the cat on Hot Mike and Jason Tatum, you know, 529 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: during the regular season and even in the playoffs, like 530 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: I own your ass like him, I don't think yeah yeah, 531 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: And then he he there's him talking to Chris Paul. 532 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: There's videos of him talking to Jahn Morant when the 533 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: Grizzlies had their run. Like, Steph is quietly a killer. 534 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: The problem. The thing is is that he has this 535 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: baby face that nobody really holds it against him. 536 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: The baby faced assassin. That's right, and that might be 537 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: why Chris Paul hated him back in the day. Remember 538 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: Steph hit the shimmy and then Chris Paul I think 539 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: it was Game six and the Rockets beat him, and 540 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: that series was epic, and Chris Paul, you know, hit 541 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: a big shot and the shimmied in Steph Curry's face, 542 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: and I remember being at a bar and Rockets fans 543 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: were like going crazy. Within like a minute, Chris Paul 544 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: comes up with a hamstring injury, dotting for the player. 545 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: It's like, don't tip the basketball gods. Anyways, all right, Rob, 546 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: I know everybody's fired up to the tournament. We back 547 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: tomorrow with a lot of tournament talk. Obviously, I'll be 548 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: putting some picks on the gram. Everybody, enjoy the first 549 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 3: day of the madness. We'll talk you tomorrow.