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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four

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Speaker 1: thirty two, Episode three of The Daily Case, the production

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody who's been listening into those. My name is

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray aka your Boy Kusama, the Lord of Lancersham,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co host today. Again,

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Speaker 1: Please welcome today's guest co host, Jamie Lovedace. Oh, Jamie,

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Speaker 6: You lean into being the bad if you're one of

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Speaker 4: Little Shop of Horror's lore is so terrific.

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Speaker 4: Let's not do that.

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Speaker 1: And I agree, decision made, let's not do that.

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Speaker 4: She's she's a genius, she's a gem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Colin, what's something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 2: From commanity today.

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Speaker 6: So number one video game Metal Gear Solid two Sons

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Speaker 6: And this game goes on to criticize, like Proxy Wars,

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Speaker 2: It was it was like really on the nose. So

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Speaker 1: You gotta go play. I I remember it when it

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people didn't like that.

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Speaker 1: Because like, because what Phantom Pain is like the latest right.

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Speaker 6: Of Right And that's the one where today Okajim was

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Speaker 6: Dropout, dot TV, baby baby, game change or play it

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Speaker 2: Dimension twenty relatively yourself, crowd control control.

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Speaker 4: So true, so true.

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Speaker 6: We see you, We see you, j we see you,

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Speaker 6: and you know, we see Sam despite his his vertical

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Speaker 2: We still see you Sam.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, profit share too, for everybody. It's like profit It's

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Speaker 4: Like I I feel like there's uh, like everyone's always like, well,

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Speaker 1: Everyone's a person yea.

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Speaker 1: It works. It's I mean, I think, yeah, for that

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Speaker 1: I'm also such an admirer of everything they do over there,

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Speaker 6: You do anything?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I've always been like, because

440
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Speaker 1: I know if you're the people that drop out over there,

441
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm always like, yeah, we actually need to have more

442
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Speaker 1: of them on. But the fun ones are so busy

443
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: because they're so fucking successful. Madison's Square, fucking Brendan, come on, please,

444
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you have seven hundred thousand things on. Yeah,

445
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair, but show he can come on here,

446
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: come on, No, no, absolutely, I don't know, it's not like,

447
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: it's not shade, nothing shady.

448
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: You're starting a public Yeah yeah, with one of.

449
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: The most liked people on the internet.

450
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Speaker 3: Right.

451
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all heard about this guy.

452
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: No, he just makes little shoes all day.

453
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly American girls, exactly, exactly. All right, let's take

454
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Speaker 1: a quick break and when we come back Iran right

455
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: after this, and we're back and just the state of

456
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Speaker 1: the US Israel war against Iran. It even though Trump

457
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: is like uploading videos like whoa, look at that bomb

458
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: that we just dropped on an ammunition depot, Isn't that crazy?

459
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: That's about the only feel good factor there is I

460
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: think for people rooting for the US is that you

461
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Speaker 1: can just root for like high like three sixty killcam

462
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Speaker 1: footage and be like, yeah, this is sick, because I mean,

463
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Speaker 1: I think if anything else, this has been a fantastic

464
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Speaker 1: stage for the world to see American hegemony begin to

465
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: crumble in real time and traditional allies have noped their

466
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Speaker 1: way out of getting tangled in the Strait of Hormuz

467
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Speaker 1: or any kind of offensive actions in Iran and have

468
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Speaker 1: flat out just said no again, like to any kind

469
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Speaker 1: of military action well, now even more European nations are

470
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Speaker 1: flexing their sovereignty as they are wont to do in

471
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Speaker 1: other ways to make a point that they don't want

472
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Speaker 1: fucking anything to do with this bullshit, even as the

473
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Speaker 1: illegal war affects their energy supply. So on Monday, we

474
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Speaker 1: learned that Spain was not allowing any American aircraft involved

475
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Speaker 1: with attacks to fly over their airspace. And you're like,

476
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Speaker 1: oh shit, okay, well you know, Trump's like, it's fine anyway,

477
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Speaker 1: We'll remember. I won't be buying any more Spanish things

478
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Speaker 1: after this. Then we found out France didn't allow plane

479
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: planes carrying weapons to Israel to fly over their territory.

480
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: Trump responded to that with that tired ass truth social

481
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: post that was like we will remember, sure, dude, but

482
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Speaker 1: you can't even remember what we were in. Yeah.

483
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Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna try to pull a pull

484
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Speaker 4: out of freedom for es.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's been like, the thing is like, oh,

486
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Speaker 1: so you don't want to get entangled in this, I'm

487
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna remember that you could. Oh you'll see, like it's

488
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: just like this veiled threat that's like meaningless and the.

489
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Speaker 6: Nonsense, you know, the the unnecessary war that we started

490
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Speaker 6: for no reason that we said we won fourteen times

491
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Speaker 6: that he still also says NATO isn't coming to our rescue,

492
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Speaker 6: like why do we need it?

493
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Speaker 3: Right?

494
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Speaker 1: Last week I played what last week? I played a

495
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Speaker 1: clip where he was like, that was a test when

496
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Speaker 1: I asked NATO allies to come to the strain of

497
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Speaker 1: horror moves and they failed, And you're like, dude, no,

498
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Speaker 1: you asked and they said no, and you're humiliated. So

499
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Speaker 1: now you're doing this like petulant teenager things like I

500
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Speaker 1: actually even want it, and it was like a test,

501
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: and they're all bad friends anyways, start not coming to

502
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Speaker 1: my birthday.

503
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Speaker 2: All right, Well that's not a petulante, that's an inceel.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, exactly truly. And then then we found out

505
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just the French. The Italians are also not

506
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Speaker 1: allowing US bombers to land at their basis before going

507
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Speaker 1: to the Middle East. Hmmm, okay, And finally we just

508
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: found out too. Poland just denied an informal request from

509
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Speaker 1: the US to relocate the Patriot missile defense systems to

510
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: the Middle East because the US has just been sending

511
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: up all kinds of basically social money that could be

512
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: used for social programs in the United States in the

513
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Speaker 1: form of missiles that are exploding because they're fighting. They're

514
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Speaker 1: like using like fifty thousand missiles to take out like

515
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Speaker 1: three hundred dollars drones and the math aane really math

516
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Speaker 1: in there. So it's all it's all just a terrible

517
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: blunder that every administration has seen coming and why this

518
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Speaker 1: was never happening until again, as we found out he

519
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: thought that the Venezuela Maduro kidnapping went so well. He

520
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, okay, this will be this is

521
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, and it was not and is not.

522
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: And also this just felt like all of the resistance

523
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: to being caught up in the illegal war just felt

524
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: so long overdue, especially when you consider the Trump and

525
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: heg Seth like threats to invade Greenland and like other

526
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: fate like threatening other NATO allies. And now they're blundering

527
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: in Iran just going to lead to like untold amounts

528
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Speaker 1: of chaos and suffering, not to mention like how difficult,

529
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Speaker 1: how prices are going to go up in the region.

530
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Speaker 1: But then us AID being cut back all over the world,

531
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Speaker 1: there's this is going to this is going to manifest

532
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: and a lot of instability that I think Trump is

533
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: just merely trying to cocoon himself into thinking like, oh,

534
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: the line is going down in the stock market or

535
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: gas prices, Like It's so much more complex than that,

536
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Speaker 1: And I find it now interesting that the world is

537
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: like kind of making it clear that Israel in the

538
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: US are on their own. Trump has also began begun

539
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: really earnestly, talking as if the job is done. Like

540
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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt reiterated did what he said was that the

541
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: reopening of the straight up horror moves is no longer

542
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: a quote core objective of the war, not war military

543
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: operation operation. Yeah, yeah, and yeah even now, like on

544
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Monday there was that truth social post where most people

545
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: were like, is this market manipulation? Because on Mondays he

546
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: does like a market manipulation post. Uh day Friday, Yeah

547
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: exactly that he goes in and then came in and

548
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: said great progress has been made to end the war.

549
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: The Iranians are like, who are you talking to?

550
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: All the bad news comes out on Friday after Market's Clothes,

551
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 6: and then every Monday he makes right before bullshit about

552
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Speaker 6: how things are going great.

553
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Hopefully you know, stabilize things. And now,

554
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: like even people like Hannity and like other propagandists and

555
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: influencers are all saying some version of this, this whar

556
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: is actually going to be over in a matter of weeks,

557
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: so then then we'll just move on. It's just truly

558
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: like inn l you know, like of the highest order,

559
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: like from those in the diplomacy military world are all

560
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: calling this a strategic defeat, and you're like, oh, yeah

561
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, like that's where you end up

562
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: worse off than where you started, and somehow your adversary

563
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: is now in a stronger position than when you started.

564
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: That's called a strategic defeat. You completely self owned and

565
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: now you know, Iran is like, oh, maybe we'll just

566
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: start taking tolls through the straight of Horn moves I

567
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: mean this yeah, why not? Well why not? Like the

568
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: US is completely blundering. What's to stop anyone? So yeah,

569
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: unclear how this is going to end, but Trump seems

570
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: to be like looking for a way to cut his

571
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Speaker 1: losses and act like everything is fine.

572
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Speaker 4: And then in the meantime it's I think conservatively over

573
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred Iranian civilians are.

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Speaker 3: Dead because of the US and Israel. I just I've felt, like,

575
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Speaker 3: I mean, the way that this war has been spoken

576
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: about online versus other conflicts I found very I'm curious

577
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: what you both think about it, because I feel like

578
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: it's both very under discussed and also, you know, obviously

579
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: this is in conversation with so much of what the

580
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: US and Israel have been doing together for years and years,

581
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: but particularly over the.

582
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Speaker 4: Last couple of years. And I'm not the.

583
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Speaker 3: People who were vehemently defending Israel's genocide and Gaza and

584
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 3: the us is involvement with it are awfully quiet about Iran,

585
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: almost as if it is indefensible and incoherent like what

586
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: they're doing. But I'm maybe it's just like my feet

587
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: in particular, but I'm not even seeing an attempt at defending.

588
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: It's just sort of a like I close my eyes

589
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: and I don't see it, which of course doesn't.

590
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen the appetite to defend, at

591
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: least people who were huge defenders of like the IDF

592
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: and everything militaristically that Israel does, like that enthusiasm, like

593
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: just on a continuum, has just gone consistently down. And

594
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Speaker 1: I just even with this, I didn't there were Obviously

595
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: you do get the people who are completely bought into

596
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: every day again and they're like, no, this is to

597
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: ensure the safety of not just the US, but Israel

598
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: and people like.

599
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: And it's just spread democracy and also to Yeah.

600
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Speaker 3: Also, and did you hear there's one homophobic person and

601
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Speaker 3: and that's why we had to kill two hundred chiltern

602
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Speaker 3: that whole.

603
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

604
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you found out I don't know if you remember

605
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: that thing where like there was a headline about how

606
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Speaker 1: US intelligence had like some kind of learned that the

607
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: new Iatola was gay or had like a relationship with

608
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: a man, and like that was completely just manufactured because

609
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: the shitheads in the White House are like that might

610
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: be like a weird thing to put out because like

611
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: the like they would maybe people would be accepting. So

612
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's just throw anything out. Absolute nonsense, Yeah,

613
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: completely incoherent.

614
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this isn't exactly a spicy hot take.

615
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 6: But the fact that in I think Trump went going in,

616
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: maybe he personally thought it would be a Maduro situation.

617
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: Will kill the Itola, we'll get in, we'll get out,

618
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 6: and then it will just do a little regime change.

619
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: But it seems pretty clear that it's not Israel's goal

620
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 6: and the fact that you know, they went on to

621
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 6: kill like the second and third and fourth person in

622
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 6: the line of succession.

623
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: Uh, and that Trump was like, Oh, I don't know

624
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: who's gonna run the country. They're all they're all dead.

625
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know Israel is going to do that.

626
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: The one we are talking to got killed, right, Yeah.

627
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 6: But there's also there was a report from The Guardian

628
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 6: at the end of February that there are also Israeli

629
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 6: strikes on the home of mir Hussein Massabi, who helped

630
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 6: lead the Green Revolution back in the two thousands.

631
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Speaker 2: So he's he's like one of the most credible opposition figures.

632
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 6: In Iran who yeah, you know, has organized for well,

633
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 6: he's been a house rest for twenty eight But the

634
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 6: fact that they're even going after opposition suggests that like,

635
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: Israel's goal isn't to put a better government in place,

636
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 6: like they want Aron to become a failed state.

637
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: They prefer to have a failed state than anything, and

638
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a victory for them. And get for Trump

639
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: and the Pentagon, I'm sure. I mean, obviously, the people

640
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: who have been in the war business song enough for like, dude,

641
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna get pulled. This is we're getting pulled into

642
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: some nonsense. But they can't tell that to Trump because

643
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: they'll throw a fit, and they have to keep just

644
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: presenting it as like, here's some things that blew up

645
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: today and we're doing good. Okay, there's no other dimensions

646
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: to really consider.

647
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: We blew up a girls' school, but it was just

648
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 6: collateral damage. It was an accident, so we can move

649
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: on from AI.

650
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: It was the AI made a mistake, and you come

651
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: to find out like there was an analysis that was

652
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: botched by like the programs they were using, Like, oh my.

653
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: God, I the AI.

654
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: The AI excuse is so busy are where you're just

655
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: like I thought you wanted to to to like that,

656
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Speaker 3: like I recognize that it's a.

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Speaker 6: Lie, but yeah, And they just did their whole big

658
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Speaker 6: sales pitch about why they need to move from anthropic

659
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Speaker 6: to open eyes so they can use AI for the military,

660
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Speaker 6: and then they say, oh, but military isn't very good

661
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Speaker 6: at using AI.

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Speaker 1: It turns out, yeah, which is it? Yeah, how about you,

663
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Speaker 1: how about you just come to grips of the fact

664
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Speaker 1: that the AI is bullshit to start off and stop

665
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Speaker 1: propping up that entire you know, leg of the economy

666
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Speaker 1: that's built on AI growth.

667
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Speaker 2: Let's call it a bubble, not a leg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a bubble leg. Unfortunately, that whole

669
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Speaker 1: all your weight is on a you think it's a leg,

670
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Speaker 1: it's a bubble. So I wouldn't put all my weight

671
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Speaker 1: on there, just because if that goes poof, you're gonna

672
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Speaker 1: take a big tumble, because I mean that was yeah

673
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Speaker 1: with the Sora announcement, and a lot of people were like, oh,

674
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Speaker 1: your little video slop machine down, but here it was.

675
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Speaker 3: It was so satisfied seeing that announcement, being like, hey,

676
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Speaker 3: if you made something on.

677
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: So it was meaningful, you're so valid.

678
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Speaker 4: And then everyone was like, no, it didn't.

679
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Like it was.

680
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Speaker 2: Montage of Sam Alton getting kicked in the balls here

681
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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, yeah, or just like those dancing JD Man

683
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Speaker 1: JD Vans rames or whatever.

684
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Speaker 3: You're like those those images you made of Mickey Mouse,

685
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: like fucking Lightning McQueen's tailpipe.

686
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Speaker 1: That was so valid.

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Speaker 4: It is valid, but you should pay a real artist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's and that's still more impressive to

689
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Speaker 1: be like, no, I commissioned this sloppy art.

690
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Speaker 3: Being a private like that should be financially ruinous to you,

691
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: and it should and it should keep an artist life.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, just to talk about like possible exits here, because

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Speaker 1: I think to start off, every foreign policy person was

694
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Speaker 1: when the attack started. They're like, you have no off

695
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: ramp now because you've put the entire Irani in government

696
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Speaker 1: in an existential moment now, And there is no off

697
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Speaker 1: ramp if you are in an exist if you are

698
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: cornered in an existential situation, there is no there is

699
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: And again, but the escalation is gonna be straight of

700
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Speaker 1: horror moves. Now, what are you gonna do? You can't

701
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Speaker 1: do anything unless you just meaninglessly kill a bunch of people,

702
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: and people not many people in the US have the

703
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Speaker 1: appetite for that, as the polling suggests. And now you're

704
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Speaker 1: dealing with the fall out of the gas prices, which

705
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Trump has to fully fucking own. So the Wall Street

706
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Journal report a few days ago quote President Trump told

707
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Speaker 1: AIDS he's willing to end the US military campaign against Iran,

708
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: even if the straight of horror moves remains largely close.

709
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Speaker 1: He decided that the US should achieve its main goals

710
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Speaker 1: of hobbling Iran's navy and its missile stocks and wind

711
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: down current hostilities, while pressuring Tran diplomatically to resume the

712
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: free flow of trade. If that fails, Washington would press

713
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Speaker 1: allies in Europe and the Gulf to take the lead

714
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: on reopening the strait. So they now want to act

715
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: like a puppy who shits all over your house, makes

716
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: everything unaffordable, and then says, all right, I'm gonna take off.

717
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: This is all your mess, right, you got this cool?

718
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Cool heg Seth is now making all kinds of sounds

719
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Speaker 1: about how he like, you know, being asked by his

720
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Speaker 1: own Pentagon press corps that are all hand picked stooges,

721
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: mind you, and like a lot of times you see

722
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth up there and he's like, here's the thing

723
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Speaker 1: you gotta understand. You think, like, oh shit. Some journalists

724
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Speaker 1: get in there and ask like hard questions like no,

725
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: these are your own SIKA fans who are just asking

726
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: like basic questions that they think, yeah, you gotta be

727
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Speaker 1: able to answer this, right. This is when he was

728
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: asked about like okay, so given this idea that like,

729
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Speaker 1: you know, Trump also said, it's like it's up to

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Speaker 1: you now, England, go get your own oil. He's like,

731
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I've already laid waste to the whole place. You just

732
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: got to go and get it. Heg Seth was asked like, okay,

733
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: so you're saying it's everyone's responsibility for the mess that

734
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Speaker 1: we created, and here's his answer about you know, who

735
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Speaker 1: should do what now.

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Speaker 4: I think the President was clear this morning.

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Speaker 5: It is truth that there are countries around the world

738
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Speaker 5: who ought to be prepared to step up on this

739
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 5: critical waterway as well. It's not just the United States Navy.

740
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Speaker 5: Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big,

741
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Speaker 5: bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things

742
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: like that as well. So he's pointing out what.

743
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Speaker 1: Is the point of that, like trying to shame the

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Speaker 1: UK And last time I checked Royal Navy, that's a

745
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: fraction of our fucking name our navy. Because we spend

746
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: so much goddamn money on the military, it pales in

747
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: comparison to our navy, Like it's not even comparable. But

748
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Speaker 1: he's still doing this thing of like right last I heard,

749
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, you like it's like you set someone's

750
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: out like you're like an apartment complex on fire and

751
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, you're gonna put us Like,

752
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Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, last time I heard you guys

753
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Speaker 1: got a fire hose up there. Maybe you should do something. Yeah,

754
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I started it and I'm not gonna do anything about it.

755
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Speaker 6: This is the whole thing with NATO that he like

756
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Speaker 6: fundamentally doesn't understand because he's always been like, oh, like,

757
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Speaker 6: we're putting more into NATO than anyone else. It's not

758
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Speaker 6: fair not understanding that that was a strategic thing that

759
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Speaker 6: US did on purpose back in the fifties and sixties,

760
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Speaker 6: thinking oh, if we invest in.

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Speaker 2: NATO, we can have the weege dominant military power.

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Speaker 6: Right yeah, And so they don't have a military because

763
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Speaker 6: of US foreign policy goals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I didn't know that, right, probably.

765
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Speaker 3: Say well, this is this is besides the point. But

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Speaker 3: just in the source tweet there on truth social do

767
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Speaker 3: you call your post truth?

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Speaker 2: Do you sure?

769
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Speaker 3: Do?

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Speaker 1: He shared his truth this morning because I was like, at.

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Speaker 4: First it sounds religious.

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Speaker 3: It is, yeah, it's like in his truth this morning,

773
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Speaker 3: I'm like that sounds like something a priest would say it.

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Speaker 4: But then I was like, oh, that's just what it's

775
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 4: like the equivalent of a tweet.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and you read truth.

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Speaker 4: I think you read truth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you reach reach and I read truth. That truth.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna walk into the ocean. Yeah, that's brutal.

780
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Speaker 3: I'm happy that I've made it this far without acquiring

781
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: that knowledge, but really devastating to know that that's what's

782
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Speaker 3: going on over there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because then he was even asked to like

784
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Speaker 1: a simple question about like, you know, the president's acting

785
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Speaker 1: like the objectives have been achieved. That it's right, it's

786
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Speaker 1: a success. So what does that mean for? Like what

787
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: the end is here? This is him just being like

788
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Speaker 1: it could be it could be anything.

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Speaker 5: Guidance and things were military objectives that were moving toward

790
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Speaker 5: and things that we look at, and has he articulated.

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Speaker 1: This wind up? You can just tell he's so full

792
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: of shit, you know what I mean? And then just

793
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: like objectives and you're like, you're you're gonna you're about

794
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: to just say a dumb lie to me, but okay,

795
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Speaker 1: you're saying a lot of words. Okay, points for that

796
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Speaker 1: calculated you.

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Speaker 5: Know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight

798
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Speaker 5: weeks three, it could be any any particular number, but

799
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Speaker 5: we would never reveal precisely what it is because our

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Speaker 5: goal is to finish those objectives and and we're well

801
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Speaker 5: on our way. And the Truman and I look at

802
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Speaker 5: this every single day. It will be the president's determination

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Speaker 5: and the president's determination alone.

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Speaker 1: That's not true, but go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Also, it's he's saying, we have a we have a

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Speaker 6: real number, but we're not gonna tell you because it's secret,

807
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Speaker 6: and it'll be whenever the president decides.

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Speaker 2: So is there a real number?

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Speaker 1: It's there is, it's the one the president decides, But

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Speaker 1: we won't even tell you, dude, because that would be

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Speaker 1: dumb if we told you we were going to be

812
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Speaker 1: done in two weeks. You get that? Get that?

813
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Speaker 4: It all makes sense when you think it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, seriously, what a fucking frightening prospect. So that's

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Speaker 1: the state of things right now. The blundering continues at

816
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Speaker 1: the expense of human life. And I mean the build

817
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Speaker 1: the troop build up in the region is terrifying. There's

818
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Speaker 1: like over I think over fifty thousand troops right there

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Speaker 1: in the region, and you already have people be like

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna do anything. It's just trying to show

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Speaker 1: for it's just this is what you do. You pull

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Speaker 1: your fist back and you're like, oh, don't make me

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Speaker 1: kill all these innocent, enlisted people. I'll do it too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's the part that's like really terrifying,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, the president is such a narcissist and egomaniac

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Speaker 1: and he's senile and has no grasp of what the

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Speaker 1: actual situation is. That it's purely whatever like sort of

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Speaker 1: very overly positive description that he's being fed by heg

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Speaker 1: Seth or other people in his cabinet to be like

830
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Speaker 1: they're like, don't fucking know them.

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Speaker 7: This is the worst fucking thing that ever happened. You

832
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Speaker 7: say it, we blew something up and that was good

833
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Speaker 7: or else he's going to fucking lose it. And that's

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Speaker 7: the person who has the ultimate decision here.

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Speaker 1: And that's all right.

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Speaker 3: It's like someone who we demonstrably know is very happy

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Speaker 3: to kill innocent people to save face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, Well let's take a quick

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Speaker 1: break and when we come back, we'll talk about just

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Speaker 1: those social media verdicts being actually pretty bad if you

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Speaker 1: take the longer view on it, and we'll do that

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00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: right after this and we're back. So As I mentioned

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Speaker 1: up top last week, we talked about the decision that

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Speaker 1: was made or the jury verdict against Meta and Google

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Speaker 1: that they were found quote negligent in the design and

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Speaker 1: operation of their platforms. The case was brought by a

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Speaker 1: young women who'se addiction to their social media platforms quote

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Speaker 1: exacerbated her depression, anxiety, body dysmorphia and you know, thoughts

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Speaker 1: of self harm. And you know, at the time, people

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00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: are like, oh yeah, I mean, we've all seen the

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Speaker 1: different But there's like the Meta whistleblower who was like, no, no, no,

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00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: everybody at the company knows how bad this is. We

853
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: just have to ignore it because it's all about engagement

854
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: and revenue. So by oh no, no, we know it's bad,

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Speaker 1: Like we won't even let our own kids use this crap.

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00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: So on the surface, seems like a win, right, because

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Speaker 1: we're sort of in this era where it feels like corporations,

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: especially tech companies, like running rough shot over everything in

859
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: our rights included. So big tech company punished for profiting

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00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: off children suffering that I think that could work again.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody who brought my attention to really

862
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: like the larger issue here, and also there's a great

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: video from Taylor Lorenz and Cat ten Barge from Smithfire

864
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: News for calling like just total bullshit, especially on how

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media was covering it, because the narrative was

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Speaker 1: so misleading, like if you the headlines were like whoa

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Speaker 1: Shoote's decision going against these social media companies. I fell

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Speaker 1: for it hook line and Sinker because I.

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Speaker 4: Think it was effective.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like, I think it's partially because it

871
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Speaker 3: benefits from everyone's like the general understanding that.

872
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: That is true.

873
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the desire to see literally anyone, any institution

874
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: care about it.

875
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: So it's like, I don't know, I fell for it. Yeah, yeah.

876
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: I think also we're such an in an era where

877
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: we're trying to find some green shoots of hope emerging

878
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: that feels like, Okay, we can fucking hold onto this.

879
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Maybe this can turn into something. But again, like I

880
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: think off Mike Jamie, he were saying, it's like now

881
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: there's like we can't even believe there's ever fucking good

882
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: news anymore because it's like it's shrouded in some other things.

883
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: So I also talked about how there was a decision

884
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: in New Mexico where meta Facebook was you know, they

885
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: had to pay a fine like three hundred and seventy

886
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: five million for you know, not adequately protecting children. Well,

887
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: that case in New Mexico stemmed from an investigation into

888
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: child predators on Facebook that was called and I'm not joking,

889
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Operation metaphile. So yeah, exactly, Yeah, they take child endangerment

890
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: seriously because we're doing mad magazine punts. Okay, that's that's

891
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: that's how you know this is a real thing. And

892
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to defend Meta or Facebook, but

893
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: their reps were even pointing out that the sting operation

894
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty more unethical to begin with and and

895
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: involved in trapping people with real life pictures of actual

896
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: children obtained without their consent. But their defense against that

897
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: to be like, well it was fine because those kids

898
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: quote lived outside of the United States Jesus Christ, which

899
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: is such like an American view of like, oh, American children,

900
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: that's one thing. And even then there's that's that's not.

901
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: Even there's a lot of asterisks about what we consider American.

902
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, or children or children or children or life. You know,

903
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: it's like because we don't do anything with mass shootings,

904
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: but it's it's so selective. It's fucking disorienting.

905
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

906
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: The second that I started to like read the story,

907
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, of course there's nothing to feel good about.

908
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: Of course this is like, yeah, like.

909
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: We gotcha with other kids pictures. And it wasn't because

910
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it wasn't because they like found

911
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: crimes or something. They were just like, we're doing it

912
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: to catch a predator operation, and this is how it's

913
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: going to work related all this this.

914
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: So this is here saying maybe that maybe I've fully

915
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 6: misunderstood something here, But I was reading about how Heritage

916
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 6: Foundation is actually one of the big groups pushing for

917
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 6: mandating teen accounts, you know, for on Instagram, Facebook, and

918
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 6: it's part of their like their forty year plan, the

919
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 6: same way as they started in the eighties, their plans

920
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 6: to overturn row. They want to start with teen accounts,

921
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 6: and they want to start with banning porn, and that

922
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 6: that eventually leads to banning no cause, no fault, divorce

923
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 6: and restricting women's ability to make decisions.

924
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean everything is just to take out any

925
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: ability for people to have community over something or whatever,

926
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: especially with the Internet. I think they found that that's

927
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: like a huge thing because they're losing the propaganda wars.

928
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like right, even like even broadly, like the US,

929
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: Like there was a thing Marco Rubio sent out to

930
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: all the embassies saying, like you need to begin engaging

931
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: locals who will amplify America's stories because like we have

932
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: to battle the disinformation that exists about America. And you're like, sir,

933
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: they're eating the dogs. Yeah, what do you mean, what

934
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: do you mean they're the only The only way out

935
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: of this is if you change some shit, like on

936
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: an actual, you know, policy level. It's not because you're

937
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna get people doing selfie videos like at the fucking

938
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: mall at DC, like this is such a beautiful country,

939
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: Like no, yeah.

940
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

941
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 6: Trump said the other day that communism doesn't work in theory,

942
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 6: but it does work in practice in China.

943
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: No, pretty magnificent.

944
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff like, oh my god, every day

945
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: there's something it's funny too, like my appetite for like

946
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: whenever he says dumb stuff, it's it's fallen off really

947
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: hard in like the last two months. Like there's still

948
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: some stuff where he says some dumb shit, and other

949
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: times I'm like this guy's just saying fucking crazy shit

950
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: all the time because he's needs. He shouldn't be anywhere

951
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: near anything like decision making only things you just figure

952
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: out how if you want large fries or a large

953
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: diet coke when you got a McDonald's, like do that.

954
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Stay the fuck away from everything else. But so the

955
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: big outcomes with these trials, those two trials specifically, is

956
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: that they will ultimately benefit the same tech companies they

957
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: ostensibly punished, and also some of the worst people on

958
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: the planet. So, for one thing, in all of these cases,

959
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: the plaintiffs were pushing for online age verification to quote

960
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: better protect kids. And we've talked about how like online

961
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: age verification laws are like a disastrous and they also

962
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: just help giant companies like Google and Facebook because quote

963
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: they are the only entities with the resources to build

964
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: costly compliance systems and absorb potentially massive fines. So smaller platforms,

965
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: on the other hand, will simply be forced to shut

966
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: down because they can't comply with these new laws. And

967
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: this already happened in the UK, like with their Online

968
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: Safety Act. There was like just one specific example, like

969
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: a place called hamster Forum had to shut down because

970
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: it just didn't have the means to have all the

971
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: compliance systems in place, and they were merely the quote

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: home of all things hamstry.

973
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: Can't have a safe space with hamster Forum, what do

974
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: we have, Well, it was the point of the internet.

975
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: If Hamster Forum can't thrive.

976
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 6: For Bilk's sake, you'll remember twenty years ago when when

977
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 6: we were all kids growing up and we were told like,

978
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 6: never put your real information on the Internet, like it

979
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: is for your own personal safety.

980
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: You have to be anonymous. And then now let's to

981
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: go on fucking hamster dot com.

982
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: You gotta give them, you have to say, you have

983
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: to give them your social Security number three drops of

984
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: blood to be like cute hamster.

985
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. And you know, and Meta they love a

986
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: bit of age verification. There was a person on Reddit

987
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: we made headlines when they exposed Meta funneled quote over

988
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: two billion dollars through shadowy nonprofits to push age verification laws.

989
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: And they were doing this to shift responsibility to Apple

990
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: and Google's app stores rather than their own services. But again,

991
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: their goals don't seem that dissimilar from the plaintiffs, and

992
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: like in pushing for these things, and if Facebook is

993
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: forced to include age verification. That just means that they'll

994
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: have access to even more fucking data. This is like

995
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: the again, we know, this is how they make their

996
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: money on being like right, not only do I have

997
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: an idea who you are? I got your ID. Now

998
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: I got everything, Baby, It's not even I'm not even

999
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: guessing anymore. I know this is you and this is

1000
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: what you are doing because.

1001
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: Andrew you're talking to and who your network is.

1002
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: Buying what you're buying, I can track all that, baby.

1003
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: And again a lot of these age verifications, like surveillance

1004
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: verification programs, are run by other odious tech companies.

1005
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: This is where I truly broke Yeah, and you're like,

1006
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: there is where I broke here enters uh you know.

1007
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six is current anti Christ obsessed tech

1008
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: oligarch Peter Teel. He backs He's a there's a Teal

1009
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: backed company called Persona Identity and provides that provides the

1010
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: company would quote extensive surveillance of users and appeers designed

1011
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: to serve federal agencies like this has been used like

1012
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: this is like at a time when Discord was potentially

1013
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: going to use it, and then they were like, actually,

1014
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: maybe we won't be using persona as now this has

1015
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: come to life, come to light, And I think one

1016
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: of the even bigger, even bigger concern is that the

1017
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: precedents set by these cases weakened Section two thirty of

1018
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: the Communications Decency Act of nineteen ninety six that states, quote,

1019
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: with some exceptions, internet companies are not legally responsible for

1020
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: the content they host if it was published there by

1021
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: someone else. So if I go on Yelp and I'm like,

1022
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: I got the worst diarrhea from Taco Bell, Taco Bell

1023
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and also Taco Bell, you know, I'd never get diarrhea

1024
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: from you because we're tight.

1025
00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: Okay, been wacka Bell, I did different, Happily, I'll be back.

1026
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: I'll be back, but I have to. That's my truth.

1027
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I get it, and hey, and that's

1028
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: the beauty of the Internet. But again, if someone writes

1029
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: something like that, Taco Bell can't they can't suit Yelp

1030
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: because that was the place that this claim was made.

1031
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: But the thing that these.

1032
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Last suits six words that made the Internet.

1033
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, the like the way these lawsuits were approached,

1034
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: they didn't want to go they didn't want to tax

1035
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: section two thirty directly. They began to sort of talk

1036
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: about the addictive quote design. It's the design of the

1037
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: apps that is actually flawed and needs to be reckoned with.

1038
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: And this again allows them to sort of sidestep the

1039
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: like sort of the the attacks on section two thirty

1040
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: and again another pathway to censor content that quote unquote

1041
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: harms children. And the judge in California bought the argument

1042
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: and ruled that quote. Because the claims were about product

1043
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: design and other non speech issues, section two thirty didn't apply.

1044
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Uh okay, I see so again non speech. Yeah, what

1045
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of content could be deemed harmful to minors? Well,

1046
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 1: if you know section two thirty is you know, sort

1047
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: of capped down to nothing, it's pretty clear when you

1048
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: look at the people that are hurrahing it, it's it's

1049
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: all bad. Like Senator Marshall Blackburn, you know, the Alliance

1050
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: of a Better Future, which includes again influential people from

1051
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation, the Foundation for American and the Family

1052
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: Policy Alliance all just anti LGBTQ, anti anything that's not

1053
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: cis had white Christian America. These are the people who

1054
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: are like, this is great, this is great. You know,

1055
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we need. And a lot of

1056
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: people are like, oh cool, there was even the National

1057
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: Center on Sexual Exploitation, and you're like, oh, oh okay,

1058
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: maybe they're they're also haraying this.

1059
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: Well.

1060
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: They're the same anti port group that used to be

1061
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: called Morality and Media uh and previously went after Cosmopolitan

1062
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: magazine for being quote hyper sexualized. That's that's their legacy.

1063
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: And so you know, if internet sites are accountable to

1064
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: the government for spreading content that's harmful the children, that will,

1065
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: no doubt include LGBTQ plus content and anything else that

1066
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: doesn't fall in line with the state's agenda, because then

1067
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: they'll be able to say that a place where people

1068
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: are offering support to young kids who are, you know,

1069
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: having questions about their own identity or gender expression, they

1070
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: can say, oh this someone is harming them in this

1071
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: in this venue. And again, these are all the screws

1072
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: they start to tighten to sort of just take away

1073
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: the ability for people to have community, to exchange ideas,

1074
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: and to even support each other just in a general

1075
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: like human to human way.

1076
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 6: Because when we've seen in Texas hlaries and policies like

1077
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 6: that to actually take kids away from their families, right, yeah.

1078
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, it's just it is.

1079
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: Truly staggering to me how many of these issues and

1080
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: rollbacks of rights, whether they're effectively framed as a win

1081
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: or not, like boils down to how the American government

1082
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: is classifying a child worth protecting and what the value

1083
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: of a child is. I mean, we were talking about

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Speaker 3: it earlier of like, you know, how whatever, who do

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Speaker 3: we consider a child?

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Speaker 4: A white cis child an American?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, like to your point, it's it's

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Speaker 1: even doubly offensive because at the end, they don't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck about children at all. It's that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the rhetorical tactic they used to pull on people's heartstrings

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Speaker 1: to have them convinced that this is some kind of

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Speaker 1: a net positive for humanity, Because if you gave a

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Speaker 1: fuck about kids, then what where the fucks that were?

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Speaker 1: Is gun control? That If you gave a fuck about kids,

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Speaker 1: why are you raw rahing a genocide in Gaza? If

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Speaker 1: you gave a fuck about kids, Why are you turning

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Speaker 1: a blind eye to all the Epstein ship that's going on?

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Speaker 2: Why are you trying to remove for schoolunches?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Just at every level, right.

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Speaker 3: Like every major like policy, and the same thing with

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Speaker 3: conversion therapy. Yeah, like it is just like, who do

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Speaker 3: we can? Like the line that we're doing it for

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Speaker 3: the children isn't even working for people who would normally

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00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: fall for that, I think, and which kind of made

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Speaker 3: this story stand out to me because I felt myself

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Speaker 3: falling for it because they wanted to believe that we

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Speaker 3: were making a decision that could positively impact children and

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Speaker 3: we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, just looking at the last couple of years, right,

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Speaker 1: like the just exchange of ideas and information about Palestine,

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: about documenting ice thugs and where they're at and what

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Speaker 1: they're up to Epstein files stuff that's all possible because

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00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: it's section two thirty, like, and you can tell when

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: they look at that, they're like, those are the kinds

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00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: of things that all of these like the tech billionaires

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: and just you know, moneyed classes that have a vested

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00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: interest in sort of eliminating that kind of speech or

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00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: that kind of communication. Are those values? They're like, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 1: this is this feels like a very efficient way to

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Speaker 1: just get to the heart of the matter. Because before

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: we've talked about all the time, all like the counter

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00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: propaganda that has to be put out there to try

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Speaker 1: and get people to see things one way, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: when people are just sort of confronted with the humanity

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Speaker 1: of a situation, they tend to only move in one direction,

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Speaker 1: which is towards their humanity and be like, well, this's

1127
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: fucking bad. There's no amount of like hot soldiers you

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: can show me doing like TikTok dance challenges that's going

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Speaker 1: to change my fucking view on that, although they will

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Speaker 1: try so anyway, very very important issue to be thinking

1131
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: about because also Marsha Blackburn just introduced a Trump America

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Speaker 1: ai Act, and inside this two hundred and ninety one

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00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: page document they tucked away a repeal of section two

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Speaker 1: thirty in there. So these are all things that we know,

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: just got to have another thing to throw on the

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Speaker 1: list of existential threats to.

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Speaker 6: Our Maybe the other one one relevant thing to play

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Speaker 6: there is, you know section two thirty is it's an

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Speaker 6: American law, but a lot of American law about the

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 6: Internet affects the broader global internet right and internationally, like

1141
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 6: shit like the Arab Spring happened because section two thirty

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00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 6: protected speech like that on Twitter. And so when you

1143
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Speaker 6: think about organizing against authoritarian fascist regimes here or overseas.

1144
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Speaker 6: When these platforms have an excuse to start or a

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 6: mandate to start taking down speech like that, it's pretty

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 6: easy to imagine that spiraling out of control.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're all going to be talking in

1148
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: weird code words. What would be the next evolution of

1149
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: our doubles?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love everything that is happening right now. Oh shit,

1152
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: he said that, I know what that really means. Well, Colin,

1153
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on the dailyeit Geist.

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: A pleasure and an honor. Where did the people find you?

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00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: Follow you, consume your show, your other work, and is

1156
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: there a work of media you've been enjoying social media

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00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: or otherwise traditionally even Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, so, first of all, folks should follow our podcast,

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00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: The Future of Our Former Democracy. We're finishing up our

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 6: second season right now. Each season explores how another country

1161
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 6: does their elections and why it might be relevant to

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00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 6: us in the US. So the current season's looking at Germany.

1163
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 6: And so if you think, oh, how does a government

1164
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 6: respond to a growing fascist state and build something new

1165
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 6: that comes afterwards? Hopefully there's some lessons that you can

1166
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 6: draw from that. And on our YouTube channel, we just

1167
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 6: put out a documentary American Troubles, a Tale of Two

1168
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Speaker 6: Democracies that looks at the island of Ireland and Portland,

1169
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 6: Oregon for similar reasons. So those are both, I think

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 6: genuinely more or less positive stories that give you maybe

1171
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: a little glimmer of hope of how something could be better.

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Speaker 6: So maybe that's nice. You should also set up for

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Speaker 6: a mailing list at more Equitable Democracy. Our website's Equitable

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Speaker 6: Democracy to o RG or a five O one C

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Speaker 6: three nonprofit. We'd love to get more folks on the

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Speaker 6: Maryland list. And if you want to follow me personally,

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Speaker 6: I'm on Blue Sky at Colin J. Cole and I'm

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Speaker 6: on Instagram at relican r E L I K E N.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is that a reference to something that is

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: way back.

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01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: In like nineteen ninety nine when I was playing.

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Speaker 6: StarCraft, all these people had cool names and I wanted

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01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 6: a cool name, so I just put some syllables together

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Speaker 6: that I thought sounded cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've been using it achieved.

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Speaker 4: I was what.

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Speaker 1: Is that a location? Yeah? No, I was actually looking

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Speaker 1: at a Pelican and I just said, what if that's right?

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Speaker 1: Are the relic it is? Yeah? I used to call

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Speaker 1: my friend by his what's the what's the other one?

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Speaker 1: After StarCraft Warcraft Warcraft? His name was dnribor uh, and

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: we used to always call him Dendribor and he never

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: lived it down because he shared it once and he's like,

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01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm a night elf, and I'm like, dentri boor, what

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? Shout out to dentro Bor. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're listening. Is there a work of media you're enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Cong Yeah, So I'll give a traditional media, The Pit.

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Speaker 6: You gotta watch it. So it's it's a medical drama

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Speaker 6: co created by Noah Wiley, who was on Er. Here's

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 6: my forty five second sales pitch for The Pit. My

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 6: partner works in healthcare and spent a number of years

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Speaker 6: working at the emergency department in our Seattle area largest hospital.

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Speaker 6: And whenever she would come home from work and I'd

1204
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 6: be like, oh, like, what happened today, She'd be like, oh,

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 6: I fucking can't tell you, Like too much happened for

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 6: me to be able to explain. And this show each

1207
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 6: season is just a one, you know, twelve hour ship

1208
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 6: to the hospital, she and many other healthcare workers say,

1209
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: is actually pretty accurate. To the pace at which things move,

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Speaker 6: and she was able to say, oh, like, you know,

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Speaker 6: all those times you ask like what happened, I couldn't

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Speaker 6: tell you. Watch the whole season of the show and

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01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 6: then imagine that was one day at work and ask

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Speaker 6: me what happened?

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Speaker 1: Right right?

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Speaker 2: It's really good and it's.

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Speaker 6: They I mean, if you like Gray's Anatomy and people

1218
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: having sex in the room closet, you don't get much

1219
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: of that, but it is confidence.

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Speaker 1: Hospital. I'm like, well, no, I'm talking about for that.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. That's yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you what happened today.

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Speaker 6: I could never watch highly competent people being good at

1224
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Speaker 6: their jobs, really great acting.

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Speaker 1: You just check it out. I love the I like

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01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: the first season. The second one. The writing is too aggressively,

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: like on the note, like it's like trying to be

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01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: like this, Like it's almost like they're looking in the

1229
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: camera and telling you something. And I'm like, Okay, we

1230
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: can do this a little bit more elegantly. But I'll

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Speaker 1: keep watching because I.

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Speaker 2: Like, not not that you're wrong, but media literacy in

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Speaker 2: this country.

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Speaker 1: Is really bad, and I think people were missing the

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01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: first season all of the stuff just went over them.

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01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: They're like right, like, hey, hey, hey, you're looking at me. Okay,

1237
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: so that's bad what happened, right, Okay, this is why

1238
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: sickle cell anemia needs to be talked about more in

1239
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: mainstream media. But I did appreciate that though, and I

1240
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Speaker 1: love as like a kid who grew up on er

1241
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: seeing no. I would have been cool to see if

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Speaker 1: that if they actually got because the whole thing was

1243
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: they were supposed to make that like a that was

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: the idea. R oh man, he could have saw George Clooney.

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Speaker 6: You know, the same thing about with the dumbing down

1246
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 6: language happened with the boys where they found out like

1247
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 6: people were uncritically thinking Homelander was a good guy, and

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Speaker 6: so they had to be like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, we're gonna make it really obvious.

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Speaker 1: That he's bad. Yeah. Yeah, Now like like, is there

1251
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: like a high media literacy cut? I can see, Yeah,

1252
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't need that.

1253
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: You can pass a test like I can.

1254
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: You can handle the nuance.

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: The nuance cut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, I'm a lover of nuance. That would

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: be fantastic. Yeah. Every healthcare professional I know, like you

1258
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: know Jack's wife, she's also like a doctor they're all like,

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01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: it's it's so I don't need to watch it, like

1260
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, spot On, but don't need to watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's Yeah, they're they're doing they're capturing it. Jamie,

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Speaker 1: how about you.

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Speaker 4: Oh man. First of all, just lovely to be back.

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Speaker 3: I'm mainly on Instagram right now at Jamie christ Superstar

1265
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 3: to this morning. We the Unhoused podcast I produce that

1266
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: is created and hosted by Theo Henderson, was nominated for

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Speaker 3: its second WEBB I'm very, very excited for THEO and

1268
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: for our whole team. So if you have a second

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: having zech gang in the in the votes would be terrific.

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Speaker 3: You can vote every day from today until April sixteenth.

1271
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's and if you haven't listened to We

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Speaker 3: the Unhoused, it's the best show in the world.

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Speaker 4: It's I think. I'm just I'm so proud to be

1274
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: a part of it. THEO has.

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with the show, THEO started it

1276
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: when he was living unhoused on the streets of la

1277
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, started making the show on his phone

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: and has since grown the show into this platform where

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: not only are stories that affect the Unhoused discussed every

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Speaker 3: single week, but also the un house share their own

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: perspectives and their own stories, which is still I wish

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: that there were more shows like that, but as far

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 3: as I know, it is still kind of the only

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Speaker 3: one for sure. I like you definitely check it out

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: if you haven't, and if you've got a second to

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01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: vote for the show and the Webbys, that would be great.

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. We will put a link to the Webby's voting

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Speaker 1: in the footnotes, so you know, to make sure you

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: check that out so you can cast your vote. Is

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Speaker 1: there any work and media that you're enjoying, Jamie, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Was thinking of I just wanted to generally recommend the

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Speaker 3: comedy of my good friend Kylie Vincent. She's over at

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Speaker 3: on Instagram at k Vincent has Risen. I was thinking

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Speaker 3: of her because of the pit recommendation where she has

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Speaker 3: been doing a lot of stand up but she was

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Speaker 3: recently diagnosed with MS and has been performing and sort

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Speaker 3: of talking about that on stage. And I visited her

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Speaker 3: in the hospital when she was in the process of

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Speaker 3: getting this diagnosis, and I live in Burbank. She was

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Speaker 3: at a hospital nearby, and every single medical professional that

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Speaker 3: entered the room.

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Speaker 4: Was like, hey, did you know that we shoot the

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Speaker 4: pit next door?

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Speaker 3: Because I guess that there's like a wing of like

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Speaker 3: a shut down wing of the hospital where they shoot

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Speaker 3: the pit. It's not like generally on a sound stage

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Speaker 3: like you would expect, but every single part, like Kylie,

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Speaker 3: we were you could set a watch by it. Kylie

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Speaker 3: was like, whoever walks in her next I don't care

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Speaker 3: who the fuck it is, They're gonna start talking about.

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Speaker 4: The pit, and I'm gonna get mad because they're like,

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Speaker 4: have you seen the pit? It's really good?

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Speaker 1: Did you need a Mandarin translator? Maybe the wrong room?

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Speaker 1: Did you know that?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, but you know what? You shot the pit here right? Okay?

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Speaker 4: It make it makes me laugh every single day since

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Speaker 4: it happened.

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Speaker 3: Where Kylie very kindly said to whoever it was, with

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Speaker 3: all due respect, I'm not really trying to decompress by

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Speaker 3: learning about a freak medical shay right now. Not really

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Speaker 3: my idea of a good time currently my lived experience.

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Speaker 1: So I just she is.

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Speaker 4: She's so funny, and so you know, check out her work.

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Speaker 4: She's the best.

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Speaker 1: Amazing you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: out and appreciate everybody who's checked out the new show.

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Speaker 1: a post from at okay, but still that guys dot

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Speaker 1: Social in parenthesis says completely humiliating myself and ruining everything.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's wind thing all right, let's wind this

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Speaker 1: thing down. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think kind

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Speaker 1: yeah cool, yeah, let's wind it down. Now. You can

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna link off to the information we talked

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Speaker 1: Catherine Long, co produced by Bee Wang, co produced by

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