Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am so excited because the gangs all here. Guys.
Speaker 3: I haven't forgot about us.
Speaker 2: I know, I mean Easton, I know, I love you.
Speaker 2: You popped on the other like the other week. But
Speaker 2: then we have Mark.
Speaker 3: Two, like, and people have been commenting asking for Where's Mark.
Speaker 4: Where's Yeah they have If you go on the wind
Speaker 4: Down on uh whatever iTunes and you look at the reviews,
Speaker 4: it's like Jana sexex, Where's Mark Easton?
Speaker 2: So it's like it's they're asking where you guys have been?
Speaker 2: So I feel like I kind of need to get
Speaker 2: a catch up Mark, where have you been? What have
Speaker 2: you been doing? Like, how's happy?
Speaker 1: Do you? Guys have been doing the show early and
Speaker 1: so it doesn't work out with the Seacrest schedule. So
Speaker 1: that's the only reason that I haven't been here because
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Everything's been, you know, it's been,
Speaker 1: of course, the weirdest some forever. We did not go
Speaker 1: back to Wisconsin for the first time in our kids' lives.
Speaker 1: Eighteen years since we didn't go back to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: Did you do Wisconsin for like a fourth of July's
Speaker 2: or just was it always just like a summer vacation.
Speaker 1: It was always summer vacation off and around the fourth
Speaker 1: of July, and always made it back, except for this year.
Speaker 5: We didn't make it back.
Speaker 1: It's just it's two airplanes scare us, and some members
Speaker 1: of the family we've heard of not taking it very seriously,
Speaker 1: and so we can't trust that.
Speaker 5: So we just decided to stay here. But my daughter
Speaker 5: was in.
Speaker 1: A musical, which was I guess commendable that they gave
Speaker 1: it a shot. They were so careful, they had the
Speaker 1: temperature checks, always in masks. They did the whole show
Speaker 1: either in face shields or in their own cubbies, which.
Speaker 5: Made it a little bit hard to follow the storyline.
Speaker 5: But they gave it a shot, and I respect it.
Speaker 5: If there was something to do this summer.
Speaker 2: I mean, how are they like, was it hard for
Speaker 2: them or is it just was it harder for you
Speaker 2: to see that versus how it was for them to
Speaker 2: enact that summer theater with one of those space shields on.
Speaker 1: I think it was a challenge for them, but they
Speaker 1: enjoyed having a place to go, something to do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: She was with a lot of her friends and she
Speaker 1: made new friends, and so it was a great summer activity,
Speaker 1: as strange as it was, but as strange as everything
Speaker 1: is now. And they're resilient. They're amazing how they just
Speaker 1: kind of rolled with everything. I mean, they have hard
Speaker 1: days like we all do, but in general they're doing fine.
Speaker 5: And next week they go back to school.
Speaker 2: Okay, so California is oh on the computer, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I think this is this whole thing is just a
Speaker 3: testament to remind all of us adults how resilient kids are, right,
Speaker 3: they roll with the punches better than any anybody else.
Speaker 2: Like this morning, Jolie, when we dropped her off, she's like, Daddy,
Speaker 2: get your mask and yeah, without even skipping a beat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not that, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just it just goes to show that like we
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we understand the ways that it affects
Speaker 3: us greater than it does our kids. But it's just
Speaker 3: it's inspiring and fulfilling to see that resiliency out of
Speaker 3: your kids, because it just like reminds you, like, all right,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay, Like we're good. It's not the
Speaker 3: end of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when is it ending?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Actually, Mike, I just got home about five
Speaker 2: minutes ago. Right now, it's what is today, Today's Thursday
Speaker 2: when we're recording this. But he's like, oh, did you
Speaker 2: just go get an IVY because I had a like
Speaker 2: a little blood thing or what are those things called,
Speaker 2: like a compression. He's like, did you give blood?
Speaker 3: Get?
Speaker 2: No, I went and got an antibody test. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so I hear they're not like super accurate, but I
Speaker 2: still wanted to go because I'm still not super convinced
Speaker 2: that I didn't have COVID.
Speaker 3: I mean, even those doctors and nurses were surprised that
Speaker 3: you kept getting negative tests.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had I caught like pneumonia a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. And so but I mean the whole
Speaker 2: thing with what's Alyssa Milano because she got all those
Speaker 2: negative tests she had she was super sick, and then
Speaker 2: she got a positive antibody test. So it's just I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just in the back of my mind,
Speaker 2: I'll I'll say I got a test for that reason.
Speaker 2: But also because you know, we're filming a movie right
Speaker 2: now and we have to I don't know how much
Speaker 2: I can actually like legally say, but we had to
Speaker 2: shut down again because a few of the actors tested positive.
Speaker 2: So we have to shut down, and we did yesterday.
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're you know, we all have to
Speaker 2: be retested again and we're all like re quarantining and
Speaker 2: you know, but I was in the scenes with the
Speaker 2: two girls or the two people that did and so
Speaker 2: I have to really like be like and as I've
Speaker 2: started to get like nervous, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: my chest felt really heavy and was like, of course
Speaker 2: I'm going to get like I didn't have my mask
Speaker 2: on because we were in the middle of the scene,
Speaker 2: and like it's just like now I have all this
Speaker 2: anxiety and of like I'm freaking out, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it, and am I going to be
Speaker 2: the case that's like down and out? And oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I just had pneumonia, so like does that mean my
Speaker 2: lungs are more compromised? And so I just start to
Speaker 2: kind of like go down that rabbit hole and it's
Speaker 2: just kind of it's just scary and I hate it.
Speaker 2: It's like there's so much like the fear is so
Speaker 2: incredible with this disease or the you know, the pandemic it.
Speaker 3: Goes back to everything from the beginning. It's unknown the
Speaker 3: whole thing with like, what is it the Ohio senator
Speaker 3: or whatever that was supposed to go to the White
Speaker 3: House and he got tested four days in a row
Speaker 3: and he tested positive, the negative, positive, the negative, and
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, the governor, whoever it was. It's just like,
Speaker 3: what are you supposed to do when you get that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff?
Speaker 2: Well, and so did Stafford too? Do you see this
Speaker 2: stuff with Michael Stafford or Matthew Stafford the Lions quarterback?
Speaker 2: I mean, he kind of the same thing. And the
Speaker 2: one of the people that got tested there was another
Speaker 2: person on the crew that as well got tested positive.
Speaker 2: She had corona in June, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's reports whether you can have it or you can't
Speaker 2: have it again. So it's just there's so many conflicting reports,
Speaker 2: and you know, I feel awful for myroducers because they're
Speaker 2: they're stuck in a rock and a hard place. They're
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, continue on and in such a
Speaker 2: weird time, and you know, they're all abiding by the
Speaker 2: rules and they have the all the face shields and
Speaker 2: the masks, and you know, we like nothing. Everything is
Speaker 2: prepackaged foods and like I've been living on in crustables
Speaker 2: and it's just like they're doing the best they can,
Speaker 2: and they made the right decision by you know, halting production,
Speaker 2: sending everyone home, right, But it's just it's it's just
Speaker 2: crazy because it's like are these tests even accurate?
Speaker 3: You know, It's gonna be interesting because we have Eric
Speaker 3: Winter and Russell and Sanchez on later today and She's
Speaker 3: about to go film something and so it'd be interesting
Speaker 3: to have this conversation with them too on you know,
Speaker 3: their thoughts about going into this kind of stuff and
Speaker 3: they're both working actors, so to see their experience with
Speaker 3: it too, because you're experiencing at firsthand right now, and
Speaker 3: that's got to be stressful.
Speaker 2: Well, it's stressful because like I just I want to work,
Speaker 2: you know, but I also want it to be safe
Speaker 2: for people. But I mean, again, the producers are doing awesome.
Speaker 2: They're you know, they're they're doing the right thing by
Speaker 2: making sure but it's just I just wish there was
Speaker 2: a definitive test, Like I is that too much to
Speaker 2: ask for? I feel like, how is this the best?
Speaker 2: You know, like in Armageddon, you're saying that of all
Speaker 2: the people we got, this is the best idea NASA
Speaker 2: can come up with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like this is the best, great reference, great reference. I
Speaker 3: appreciate that, but it's like, I mean, it's how I
Speaker 3: feel about our presidential candidates.
Speaker 2: But it's very true, like this is the best.
Speaker 3: You got, the greatest country on Earth has to offer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, I just like, can't something in
Speaker 2: life just be one hundred percent accurate?
Speaker 3: Nah? Nah, too easy that way.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Mark, what are your thoughts on all
Speaker 2: of it and going back into work versus not or
Speaker 2: all those things?
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: We we had a plan to go back at one point,
Speaker 1: but then everything started to spack again and they scrapped
Speaker 1: that plan. And there's been no other words of going back.
Speaker 1: And that was at least a month and a half ago.
Speaker 1: So I don't see us going back this year. And
Speaker 1: you know, we go back and forth on traveling. Is
Speaker 1: a hotel safe? We did do a hotel it seemed okay.
Speaker 1: It's it's all it's so much of its fear based
Speaker 1: that I think we will have a test eventually that works.
Speaker 1: It's just it's all so new. There's still so much
Speaker 1: we don't know about this virus. There's still so much.
Speaker 1: They say kids may transmit it to adults, they may
Speaker 1: not transmitted to adults. They say kids may have a
Speaker 1: there may be something in your eye that's causing people
Speaker 1: to get it, but kids don't have that is developed yet,
Speaker 1: so they're not a step.
Speaker 5: Like, there's so much we don't know, and so you
Speaker 5: just kind of got to hole up and wait it out.
Speaker 5: And who knows how long it's.
Speaker 3: Going to take.
Speaker 2: I know, that's the thing. I'm like, guys, we're going
Speaker 2: to be filming this movie, like take.
Speaker 3: Three months to shoot it shoot one week a month.
Speaker 2: Well, and kind of like the sad running joke is,
Speaker 2: you know, we started shooting on a Monday. I caught
Speaker 2: the pneumonia on Wednesday, and then you know, we went
Speaker 2: back to work the following Monday. Within wednesdays when we
Speaker 2: shut down again. So it's like we can't even make
Speaker 2: it to a Wednesday. Like but I know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I hope you know they're they're doing everything they can again,
Speaker 2: Like the producers are awesome, Like they're doing everything they
Speaker 2: can to make sure that you know, we're getting all
Speaker 2: tests and being safe and stuff. So you know, the
Speaker 2: the upper respiratory thing that I do think that was
Speaker 2: what I had too, but like you know, who knows,
Speaker 2: but like the doctors are like, that's going around now too,
Speaker 2: and you know, even with like more allergies in August,
Speaker 2: so you just don't know. But you're like any time
Speaker 2: you have a symptom, you're like, oh God, Like I
Speaker 2: take their temperatures every day I'm going around. I take
Speaker 2: Mike's temperature, I take the kids mind temperature.
Speaker 3: Every Well, you kind of did that even before the pandemic,
Speaker 3: so now you have a valid reason for I really did,
Speaker 3: didn't I.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One thing that's kind of cool is we are adapting.
Speaker 5: Like like my daughter, my other daughter is in a
Speaker 5: dance class. They have started them up again in.
Speaker 1: A parking lot, spread out wearing masks, and it's like
Speaker 1: these businesses have to figure out something or they're all
Speaker 1: going to go under. So it's been kind of interesting
Speaker 1: to see that and it kind of works. You know,
Speaker 1: they say that you can get your haircut if the
Speaker 1: barber is wearing a mask and you're wearing a mask,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay almost for sure. And so if
Speaker 1: that's the case. We can start to adapt as a society.
Speaker 1: We can have dance classes, we can go to restaurants
Speaker 1: kind of. And so that's been interesting to watch the
Speaker 1: resiliency of kind of the people like, Okay, got it.
Speaker 5: We can do this. If we all work together, we
Speaker 5: can make this happen.
Speaker 3: Especially all those small businesses. I don't remember who else
Speaker 3: talking to recently, but in La, you know, there's so
Speaker 3: many little strip malls with all these mom and pop
Speaker 3: businesses and stuff. And even when we're living there, Jana
Speaker 3: and I would always kind of comment it's like, how
Speaker 3: does this random place that specializes in this one little
Speaker 3: niche product or service stay open in this random part
Speaker 3: of North Hollywood or in the valley when there's another
Speaker 3: one just like it a few blocks away that's a
Speaker 3: completely different company. So with all this stuff, like, how
Speaker 3: are these businesses in a place like LA or New
Speaker 3: York that's just so on top of each other when
Speaker 3: there's so much to choose from? Are they even I
Speaker 3: would feel like there'd be empty strip malls like every
Speaker 3: other block now with all this stuff going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even in here too, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the small, little, small city towns. You know,
Speaker 2: mm hmm. It's kind of sad think about that, you
Speaker 2: know what not to like get like super negative. But
Speaker 2: I have been thinking about this that I brought up.
Speaker 2: Is it too? I'm not going to like say who
Speaker 2: it is bring it, but I'm curious to kind of
Speaker 2: get marks thing because this has kind of been wayne
Speaker 2: heavy on me. So I'm not going to say who
Speaker 2: it is, just to be mindful of their their business
Speaker 2: and stuff. But I know someone that is on basically
Speaker 2: life support. They thought he went under for COVID, but
Speaker 2: turns out like while he was under, they found out
Speaker 2: that he had a really aggressive lung disease, like he
Speaker 2: had lung cancer. So now he's on this ventilator keeping
Speaker 2: him alive, but they want to get him healthy enough
Speaker 2: to basically wake him up so he can say goodbye.
Speaker 2: And I guess I was trying to think in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what would you do you want to be
Speaker 2: woken up to say goodbye to your family only to
Speaker 2: know that you're gonna die, or would you want to
Speaker 2: not be woken up and not say goodbye?
Speaker 5: Wow, that is a heavy question.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm sorry, it's just really been weighing on
Speaker 2: me because I'm like, well, of course i'd want to
Speaker 2: say goodbye, but then I'm like, I don't know when
Speaker 2: I don't want to know I'm dying and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to be gone, Like I don't know if I
Speaker 2: could like hold on to that too. So I'm just like,
Speaker 2: it's just been a I never like heard what you thought.
Speaker 2: So I thought it'd be interesting to bring market on
Speaker 2: this too, because I'm like, I don't know what I
Speaker 2: would I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll answer it for me. For me, this is easy,
Speaker 3: wake me up. I want to know, really, because you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like even in that state, like when he's
Speaker 3: on a machine to be breathing, right, his mind's still
Speaker 3: his soul's still alive, so his mind's thinking, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna pop out of this you know,
Speaker 3: COVID stuff. I'll get over it. I'll be fine. And
Speaker 3: then if all of a sudden he's gone and his
Speaker 3: soul is just like, man, what what the hell happened?
Speaker 3: Like I just you know, died. He didn't know that
Speaker 3: That would just feel unsettling for my soul to know,
Speaker 3: like I didn't get the explanation, and they just like, no,
Speaker 3: let's not wake him up. I would want that.
Speaker 2: Oh, they obviously like if he can wake up, that's
Speaker 2: what they want. Like, but like he's you know, so
Speaker 2: like it's not like they're not waking him up because.
Speaker 3: It's a choice, no, for sure, but they're.
Speaker 2: Just like they're holding out hope and not pulling the
Speaker 2: plug to hope that he can.
Speaker 3: Wake up so they can tell him he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna die, so they can tell him he's gonna die.
Speaker 3: Right, I would, Yeah, I would want to. I would
Speaker 3: want to for hope to be held out so I
Speaker 3: could wake up and I could find out myself and
Speaker 3: then I could say goodbye.
Speaker 5: That's hot, Mark, I mean, I agree to a point.
Speaker 1: I think that I'm not sure about the whole soul thing,
Speaker 1: but I think that if I'm in a coma and
Speaker 1: I'm just going to fade away, it's.
Speaker 5: Almost the easy way out. It's almost a cop.
Speaker 1: Out on my part to just just head into the
Speaker 1: darkness and catch you later.
Speaker 3: So the emotional aspect of it.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly right, because it would be very emotional and
Speaker 1: heart but I would also want to create a memorable,
Speaker 1: wonderful last moment with my family, with my daughters where
Speaker 1: I give them some wars of wisdom, I make them.
Speaker 5: Laugh one last time.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd want to have a memory that they
Speaker 1: can hold on to forever, rather than just watching me.
Speaker 3: Fade right, because they all go that you you know,
Speaker 3: that person goes under is in a coma, and everyone
Speaker 3: close to him is like not thinking they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to say goodbye, right right, So it's like, exactly, it's
Speaker 3: almost more for your family or your kids.
Speaker 1: They're going to have a last memory of you, So
Speaker 1: let's craft a good one rather than have it be
Speaker 1: whatever random last thing was before you.
Speaker 5: Fell into it.
Speaker 3: I want to give you know, I want my kids
Speaker 3: to be able to hug me yeah, and get a
Speaker 3: hug in return one more time. Let me squeeze them
Speaker 3: with all I have and tell them Daddy will always
Speaker 3: be there.
Speaker 5: It would be so hard to resist the being like
Speaker 5: there's buried treasure and it's.
Speaker 1: Something like or like I never told you the family
Speaker 1: secret your Aunt's.
Speaker 5: So hard to resist that kind of thing, So I
Speaker 5: don't think I could do.
Speaker 3: He wants to be able to wake up so he
Speaker 3: can mess with his family. I can troll my children
Speaker 3: one last time before checking out. I have a million
Speaker 3: dollars buried in and fade out. Your kids, It's been
Speaker 3: the rest of their lives, digging up everywhere.
Speaker 5: I pulled the doctor, and I'm like, okay, you got
Speaker 5: to pull the plug. Like when I close my eyes,
Speaker 5: if I keep going and checkt.
Speaker 3: Me with something I don't know, he doesn't pull it
Speaker 3: yet You're like, doc.
Speaker 2: Now now, I mean, I mean, ultimately, I would obviously
Speaker 2: want to say goodbye, like that's ultimately. But I was
Speaker 2: struggling with that.
Speaker 3: No, I get it is tough.
Speaker 2: It is tough because I would never want to know
Speaker 2: when I'm dying well.
Speaker 3: It's like the question that we've talked about before. It's like,
Speaker 3: would you rather know how or when you die?
Speaker 2: Well? And this is the case in that scenario when,
Speaker 2: because then I would know how many days I have
Speaker 2: left to cherish them. But in this one, it's like
Speaker 2: you're up, you're down, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: Not like I mean, yeah, I mean you don't know
Speaker 3: how long you this question would have but yeah, it's
Speaker 3: but if you.
Speaker 1: Know when, Like if I knew on a specific day,
Speaker 1: I would just like wrap myself in bubble wrap and
Speaker 1: get in bad.
Speaker 5: And I'm not moving because you can't get me.
Speaker 3: It's like final destination, your ceiling, your ceiling field will
Speaker 3: fall down and like cut your head off. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: going to find a way step it.
Speaker 5: I read a great.
Speaker 1: Book called They Both Die at the End, and it's
Speaker 1: about uh in a world where you get a call
Speaker 1: that morning saying you are dying today so you can
Speaker 1: get your affairs in order and enjoy your last day
Speaker 1: on earth, and at some point during that day you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna, you're gonna die. It's a great book,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spoilt the ending for you're
Speaker 1: gonna ask that question. I mean, that's the tides of
Speaker 1: the book. But but that's that questions if.
Speaker 5: You know when, but you don't know, how how do
Speaker 5: you live that final day?
Speaker 2: I think I'm just so honestly, I think, like with
Speaker 2: the core of it, I think I'm so afraid of
Speaker 2: dying because of my kids. Like you would be fine
Speaker 2: my kids, Like no.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I don't know, like you mean, like
Speaker 3: i'd be fine if you died, or I'd be fine
Speaker 3: if I died, know.
Speaker 2: Like you would be okay, Like you wouldn't be okay,
Speaker 2: But like you'll survive if I died, Like my kids
Speaker 2: like to not have like their mom, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I think I've just like ever since i've had Jase,
Speaker 2: I've just been like and I think with the Corona stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to die. Like when I
Speaker 2: was in the hospital, you know, for the morning thing,
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you think I have COVID? Am I
Speaker 2: going to die? And then nurses like, you're not going
Speaker 2: to die. I'm like, but how do you know? Like
Speaker 2: I'm going to be the one like and she's like,
Speaker 2: you need to breathe, take a xanax, Like, but I
Speaker 2: just I just get scared because it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I just I'm so scared. But I know I shouldn't
Speaker 2: because I believe in God and I believe in all
Speaker 2: those things. But I'm still scared.
Speaker 3: Well, it's normal to be fearful of dying, I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're a little bit more paranoid than I
Speaker 3: am about it, but I share the same fears and
Speaker 3: feelings still, like I don't want kids to live without
Speaker 3: me or their dad or I mean, it's deep stuff.
Speaker 5: It's deep, but you're not fraid for you.
Speaker 1: You're afraid for your the people you leave behind, that's
Speaker 1: what you're afraid for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Oh, anyways, how do we lighten this on? Sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: here's one thing I will say, though, I'm starting to
Speaker 2: learn how to manifest and think positive. So that's what
Speaker 2: I've been doing lately.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get you to do that for years.
Speaker 2: Well I'm doing it now. I had a girl, so
Speaker 2: I am like, when I get that thought in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you're not Jana. You're going to be fine.
Speaker 2: It's all going to be good. You're going to live
Speaker 2: a long, beautiful life.
Speaker 3: All right. I'll lighten this up and just say something
Speaker 3: A story out of left field. You've heard this one before,
Speaker 3: but Mark talking about a book made me think of it.
Speaker 3: Where when I was a kid, my parents would give
Speaker 3: me like summer reading. So I don't remember the name
Speaker 3: of the book. But so my mom comes home one
Speaker 3: day from work. It's later in the summer. I should
Speaker 3: have read it by that, and she goes, all right,
Speaker 3: do you read the book? I was like, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: let's sit down, let's talk about it. Like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's do it. So she grabs a book she kind
Speaker 3: of looks at it and she's like, uh so, what
Speaker 3: was it about? And I started giving her some you know,
Speaker 3: notes on what it's about. And then she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: what was the main character's name? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't actually have an He didn't he didn't have
Speaker 3: a name. And she's like, really, you didn't have any
Speaker 3: I was like, no, they went through the whole book.
Speaker 3: He didn't have a name, just called him him or he.
Speaker 3: She flips the book over, reads the back, like summary
Speaker 3: of the book. On the back of the book. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it shows right here his name is Danny. Like you
Speaker 3: didn't even read the back of the book. You're gonna
Speaker 3: sit here and lie to me and not even read
Speaker 3: the ten words on the back of the book that
Speaker 3: say to main character's name is like Danny. I was like,
Speaker 3: you got me. Yeah, I was like ten years old, Like,
Speaker 3: ah my bad. Classic.
Speaker 2: Well, we should probably get someone on that can help us,
Speaker 2: like a child therapist, because I really would like to know,
Speaker 2: you know, just because of the situation like when you
Speaker 2: were a kid, and then you.
Speaker 3: Know, or we can get some other parents and Eric
Speaker 3: Winter and Ruslyn Sanchez.
Speaker 2: Well actually they're in the waiting room. So let's take
Speaker 2: a break and let's get him on boom.
Speaker 3: So, like we said, we wanted two other super parents
Speaker 3: to join in on some of the topics we were
Speaker 3: talking about, and they have some exciting things going on.
Speaker 3: So let's welcome Eric Winter and Rosalind Sanchez.
Speaker 6: For having us.
Speaker 2: Lah okay, because we just started. We were just talking
Speaker 2: about Corona and everything going on. So I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: doing a movie right now. And we had to shut
Speaker 2: down because of some positive tests, and so I've just
Speaker 2: been like semi freaking out and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it did I have it? Am I gonna get it?
Speaker 2: You know? And I heard that you guys had it?
Speaker 2: So what were your symptoms? How did you get it? Like,
Speaker 2: I just I need to know.
Speaker 7: We don't know how we got it. The Yeah, we
Speaker 7: were like super crazy, super crazy careful.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 7: A little boy had he's trying to have he had
Speaker 7: a fever one night the day before. The nanny was
Speaker 7: like came to work with like allergies, you know. I
Speaker 7: mean like like she's like I don't feel well. I
Speaker 7: think I have allergies. But we didn't think anything of
Speaker 7: it because she's super responsible and she works here all
Speaker 7: the time, so we're like, okay. The next day, Dylan
Speaker 7: gets a fever. Sunday the daughter gets a fever. So
Speaker 7: not both kids have a fever.
Speaker 6: No, no sniffles, no, nothing like twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 7: So I was like, I'm not happy about this. So
Speaker 7: I texted the nanny saying, how are you feeling, you know,
Speaker 7: because the kids have a fever, and she's like, you
Speaker 7: know what, I'm not feeling great. I don't think I
Speaker 7: should go to work Monday. I'm going to do the
Speaker 7: COVID test. We're still in denial thinking it's not COVID.
Speaker 7: You know, there's no freaking way. We're so careful, there's
Speaker 7: no way they're not. Fast forward to Tuesday, she's positive.
Speaker 7: Then by then I am wiped out in bed fever.
Speaker 7: I'm dying and everybody's possied.
Speaker 6: But the range went completely all over the place. So
Speaker 6: our nanny was probably never more than like a solid cold.
Speaker 6: I got symptoms the same day she did, but later
Speaker 6: in the day I was never worse than like a
Speaker 6: solid cold.
Speaker 7: No, the nanny will had diarrhea. Danny did it.
Speaker 6: No fever, So she's thrilled that you just said we
Speaker 6: love it, but still like that doesn't make you think COVID.
Speaker 6: You could have a you could ate something bad. You know,
Speaker 6: her symptoms were mild. She wasn't in the hospital, no
Speaker 6: breathing issues, mind, I was pretty mild. The kids were
Speaker 6: over it, whatever symptoms they had. In twenty four hours,
Speaker 6: my mom got it zero symptoms, completely asymptomatic. She's gonna
Speaker 6: be seventy next year, had pneumonia last year, so she
Speaker 6: should be super high risk, totally asymptomatic. And then raz
Speaker 6: has like I would say, like a solid high end flu.
Speaker 6: And that was like the extent of it really bizarre.
Speaker 6: I mean, you did get the bad loss of taste.
Speaker 7: I lost, like when they tell you you can't taste
Speaker 7: or smell anything is no joke. Zero That would zeer
Speaker 7: me out, zero zero, It freaked me out.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 7: It is the most disturbing, like like nothing nothing. Then
Speaker 7: you don't want to eat because I know for the
Speaker 7: for the three days I didn't eat. Then when I
Speaker 7: started eating, I kept telling Eric, I don't want I
Speaker 7: don't want to eat. I can't taste anything, like I
Speaker 7: feel like I'm eating nothing. It is the most bizarre
Speaker 7: symptom to me. I mean, besides the fever and the
Speaker 7: body aches, I was miserable, but the taste was out
Speaker 7: of control.
Speaker 6: Here's what I will say. The testing system is a mess,
Speaker 6: all well, and.
Speaker 2: That's and that's the thing, because it's like the one
Speaker 2: girl that tested positive had it in June. The other one, like,
Speaker 2: you know, she has zero symptoms. The one other one
Speaker 2: has the stuff you knows, so like, okay, maybe, but
Speaker 2: it's just I feel like you're there's so many false negatives,
Speaker 2: false positives, like I'm just like and then you know,
Speaker 2: when working on a movie too, and the marazzlyd you're
Speaker 2: about to leave for you know, five weeks to shoot
Speaker 2: a movie. It's like when someone gets it, it's like
Speaker 2: you have to shut down. It's like and then you're
Speaker 2: just like left worrying like when and are we going
Speaker 2: to finish this?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 7: Oh my, So so what's what are they telling you?
Speaker 7: What is production telling you? You shut down? Like when
Speaker 7: can you come back two weeks?
Speaker 2: Well, it depends if they get If the people get
Speaker 2: two more positives, then we shut down for fourteen days.
Speaker 2: But if not, if they are like if they get
Speaker 2: two negatives in a row, then we can go back
Speaker 2: on Monday. So it's just okay, it's a waiting to.
Speaker 6: Get you guys. Did they do nasal swab with you guys? Yeah,
Speaker 6: So that's the most accurate that we found because we
Speaker 6: did a bunch of We did nasal and we did
Speaker 6: the oral saliva.
Speaker 7: Even blood work you did because of well, I did.
Speaker 6: The finger prick. Finger prick says I'd never even been exposed.
Speaker 6: So that's how inaccurate that is. I'm like perfect, I'm
Speaker 6: perfect with the finger prick, the saliva I had it once,
Speaker 6: didn't have it two other times, and then with the
Speaker 6: nasal swab had it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really there's confusing.
Speaker 6: Thousands and thousands of people doing these like the oral
Speaker 6: swab in LA and they're all probably being tested negative
Speaker 6: and guarantee you twenty five percent were positive.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's so crazy. It's just like the fact
Speaker 3: that whether it's the governor of Ohio or US or
Speaker 3: anyone getting tested, the fact that it's just false negative.
Speaker 3: Oh it's probably a false positive. The fact that false
Speaker 3: negative positives being thrown around that much just gives me
Speaker 3: no reassurance at all. Because Jana, our story actually almost
Speaker 3: mirrored what you guys were saying about the kids, because
Speaker 3: like a week and a half ago, same thing. Our
Speaker 3: daughter comes home running nose, has it for two days,
Speaker 3: then our son gets it, same thing, nothing more than
Speaker 3: a running nose. Then Jana and I a week and
Speaker 3: a half ago, get it. Mine was like you eric,
Speaker 3: like a cold. I was good after twenty four to
Speaker 3: forty eight hours. I was good. And Jana hers ends
Speaker 3: up turning it into pretty much pneumonia and she was
Speaker 3: like going to the hospital and was They actually had
Speaker 3: to cut three days of production last week because of her.
Speaker 7: Okay, here you are blaming the COVID pace.
Speaker 3: And then and then they can't even get a full
Speaker 3: week because three days in the shoot they had to
Speaker 3: cancel because of her. And now this week you get
Speaker 3: those people that test positive for COVID. They haven't even
Speaker 3: been able to get through a Wednesday yet.
Speaker 2: Oh my, but like, but I test a negative.
Speaker 6: And I don't know, think you just had like a
Speaker 6: like a cold or flu.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Even the doctors and nurses were surprised that she got
Speaker 3: another negative test.
Speaker 2: When she was feeling that bad, I went and got
Speaker 2: an antibody test just to see even though I know
Speaker 2: those are inaccurate too, but like just to like see
Speaker 2: Drew blood.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's supposed to be the most accurate. If
Speaker 6: you drop blood. Okay, what did you say?
Speaker 2: I get it in two days?
Speaker 6: Okay, so if it then, then you'll know because if
Speaker 6: you've never been exposed, then you were definitely negative.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. But okay, but how okay? Can this gives
Speaker 2: me so much anxiety? Like does it not as anxiety
Speaker 2: or is it just me?
Speaker 6: It's somebody's making a lot of money off these tests.
Speaker 6: Somebody is making a lot of money off these tests,
Speaker 6: because I'm telling you all these city tests half for
Speaker 6: a bogus.
Speaker 7: You know that I have to go to much money.
Speaker 7: I have to go to what is it Toronto, and
Speaker 7: I have to be in quarantine for two weeks inside
Speaker 7: a hotel room. I cannot get out if they catch
Speaker 7: catch you right, it's seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine.
Speaker 6: They bring all the food to your doorstep and leave
Speaker 6: it there.
Speaker 7: They I have to order like this. There's a pa
Speaker 7: in charge, and then he'll bring me or she will
Speaker 7: bring me breakfast, lunch, dinner. We'll leave it at the
Speaker 7: door so I can grab it, and I said, but
Speaker 7: what can I go to the gym one day? Can
Speaker 7: I go his? Absolutely no contact. You're inside the room
Speaker 7: for two weeks. I'm already freaking out.
Speaker 3: That sounds like vacation. That sounds like vacation.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like that does sound like here?
Speaker 3: That sounds like the vacation right now? Dream?
Speaker 7: No, I think I love I love it the first
Speaker 7: two days, but then I'll be I'm lustrophobic.
Speaker 2: I don't know, same girl, I would be like that
Speaker 2: sounds like jail to me, Like, oh my god, so
Speaker 2: closed the phobic, Like I'll oh, I know, I know
Speaker 2: what Eric, would you want to do that? Or you
Speaker 2: on my husband's side?
Speaker 6: Or would I be fine with two weeks? Yeah? He
Speaker 6: stressed out, like would the kids do? I'd be like
Speaker 6: thinking about all that. Right, No, this this guy is.
Speaker 7: Yes, this is the guy that cannot sit still in
Speaker 7: a hotel room for five minutes. He will make himself
Speaker 7: busy with rubbish, with nothing, just just to go out
Speaker 7: and do whatever. So there's no more you're gonna be
Speaker 7: able to be two weeks inside a hotel crazy.
Speaker 6: So I can mentally prep myself for it and just
Speaker 6: get a bunch of things to bin, binge, watch and chill.
Speaker 2: Maybe. So, so then you're gonna go when do you
Speaker 2: leave for that movie? Monday? Oh my goodness. And then
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have the kids in huh, Eric.
Speaker 6: I'll have the kids, I mean our nanny abible to
Speaker 6: help my moms down the streets. I'll have a support system.
Speaker 6: But then I start work mid September, so that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Oh so you guys go back to filming too, yeah.
Speaker 6: Which I don't know how they're what they're gonna do.
Speaker 6: And that's what you were in l A and I.
Speaker 6: I mean there's gon me no real quarantine so that
Speaker 6: we get tested I think every couple days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So you can't
Speaker 2: go past two days of not getting tested.
Speaker 6: Oh my stuff just shoved up your nose every two days.
Speaker 7: No, well they'll do the saliva thing.
Speaker 6: I don't think they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sag Yeah, you just probably get numbed to
Speaker 2: it at some point you're just like okay, there you
Speaker 2: go and then like there's no I feel like this
Speaker 2: this is kind of mean, like silly to say, but
Speaker 2: like they just they kind of go up in your nose,
Speaker 2: Like they don't even tell you their name, Like they
Speaker 2: don't say thank you, I don't even know you, Like
Speaker 2: I feel violent, and then it's like I'm left in tears.
Speaker 2: They just walk away. I feel, so, can you at
Speaker 2: least tell me your name? Oh my goodness, I hate it.
Speaker 6: Did they separate your trailers and stuff? Because I've heard
Speaker 6: that we're gonna have one separate trailer for makeup, one
Speaker 6: trailer for hair. They're gonna have plexiglass shields between each station.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean everybody has to wear the face
Speaker 2: shield and a mask. It's all like prepackaged foods. You
Speaker 2: can't so like there is no catering, Like it's just
Speaker 2: like uncrustables. So I feel like I'm five again. I've
Speaker 2: had more incrustables than like I've ever had.
Speaker 3: Well the one day I told Jane because she was
Speaker 3: coming home poor thing, because she's a pick your eater,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, all right, I'll make you.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not that I'm a pick your eater.
Speaker 2: I just I don't really on set, Like I don't
Speaker 2: like the head like healthier food, Like I don't like
Speaker 2: the heavy mashed potatoes. And I'm like I just would
Speaker 2: like a nice salad with the grilled chicken, you know,
Speaker 2: like and.
Speaker 3: So so the first day, I'm like, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna pack you like a construction worker, like cooler lunch spots. Right,
Speaker 3: So I had everything. I was like proud of it,
Speaker 3: like grilled shake in, all this stuff ready for her.
Speaker 3: And that's the day. She didn't even eat it because
Speaker 3: she comes home that day sick and I haven't made
Speaker 3: it for a since. No.
Speaker 2: All right, So in quarantine though, how were you guys,
Speaker 2: Like did you did you kind of get into a
Speaker 2: groove or were you guys feisty? And I mean obviously
Speaker 2: I know the feistiness there with you, babe, but like
Speaker 2: were you was there any bad fights or how were
Speaker 2: you able to control the quarantine inside the house.
Speaker 6: We started so yeah, like the first few a couple
Speaker 6: of months were great. We're like, wow, this is fun
Speaker 6: with the kids like it was. It was actually good
Speaker 6: the first couple of months. Then we had a couple
Speaker 6: of months where did the fan and it was kind
Speaker 6: of like a rough couple of months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it just like the communication or what was it?
Speaker 7: And Eric had two surgeries, one low back surgery on
Speaker 7: a neck surgery while we're doing the quarantine and he
Speaker 7: it's just very massive surgeries, and he gets a little
Speaker 7: bit impossible.
Speaker 6: She lacks compassion. What did you say you lacked compassion?
Speaker 7: I do like compassion because you arenoying. So that's that's
Speaker 7: the problem. That's the problem. If you were nice. I
Speaker 7: tell him, you know, Eric, do you have to learn something?
Speaker 7: And it's been fifteen years and you're still not getting it.
Speaker 7: When you go into a hole mode, what you're gonna
Speaker 7: get is a lack of compassion.
Speaker 2: What is a hole mode?
Speaker 7: I'm curious, moody, like moody and snappy and.
Speaker 3: Morning honey, kind of like that.
Speaker 6: You know, wouldn't be babe, you just went through a
Speaker 6: couple of big surgeries. I understand why you're moody. Let
Speaker 6: me figure out how I can make you feel better.
Speaker 2: Your mind exactly.
Speaker 7: I guess all right, I guess no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 7: It's the first two months were great. Then he had
Speaker 7: his old the health issues, and then I and I
Speaker 7: have you know what, Yeah, I have I have an issue.
Speaker 7: You know, it's been it's been like a really self searching,
Speaker 7: soul searching thing for me to comprehend why I'm not
Speaker 7: more compassionate or when he's in pain, well.
Speaker 6: When she's in pain, the world shuts down.
Speaker 2: No, no, I will say this though, you know, I
Speaker 2: know Michael is like putting his finger up like that.
Speaker 2: The thing is is, I feel like when and I
Speaker 2: might be generalizing, but when when men get sick, like
Speaker 2: when Michael gets sick, you know, he doesn't he just
Speaker 2: he's dead, like he's in bed. He can't function. And
Speaker 2: I feel like when I when I get sick, I
Speaker 2: still have to do things. So I feel like my
Speaker 2: compassion level isn't as high for him because I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't get the luxury to stay in bed and
Speaker 2: you know, and do whatever I did this.
Speaker 3: Last time you do. The thing is is I'll get
Speaker 3: sick once a year, and I'm down and out when
Speaker 3: you're saying I don't feel good every fourteen days, my
Speaker 3: it's really hard to be compassionate too when I hear
Speaker 3: that once a month, but once a year when I'm sick, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Daddy wants to lay in bed for a day and
Speaker 3: be left alone.
Speaker 2: I can't cant with you.
Speaker 7: You know, women, we are more, we feel more, you know,
Speaker 7: like I'm very in tune with my body. So if
Speaker 7: my ovulation is strong, I want to be in bed.
Speaker 7: When I get my period, I want to be in bed. No,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't how do you guys rebound from like because
Speaker 2: I know for us too, like we kind of went
Speaker 2: through the same things of like the ups and downs
Speaker 2: of quarantine, and it's like, what is your way of
Speaker 2: how do you guys shake it off?
Speaker 7: After like three or four rough days, then we get
Speaker 7: up one morning and we kind of like apologize, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean we started to kind of like apologize and
Speaker 7: then maybe he tries to be a apologizer.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, and.
Speaker 6: I am I have no problem saying sorry. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. And we I'm the more of the talker,
Speaker 6: you're less of the communicator.
Speaker 7: Too much of a talker.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then which is it's a great eventually talking after
Speaker 6: a few you know, a few I mean, we talk
Speaker 6: it out right away, then we kind of like, I
Speaker 6: have to feel each other out energy wise for a
Speaker 6: couple of days, and then we start talking about it
Speaker 6: more a few days later because we realized we're all
Speaker 6: trapped and we had two kids, so you got to
Speaker 6: work through it.
Speaker 7: And then the talks go. Some of them are very
Speaker 7: beneficial and some of them are very enlightening, and we
Speaker 7: are able to understand each other's point of view. But
Speaker 7: that's out of five talks. Maybe two are that lovely,
Speaker 7: the other the other three, the other three, the other three,
Speaker 7: you know, because the thing with and we make it
Speaker 7: work through humor. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: you know, and I just don't pay a lot of
Speaker 7: attention to him.
Speaker 6: So then what.
Speaker 7: Happens is I'm very black and white, you know, and
Speaker 7: when I'm done with the conversation, because I think we
Speaker 7: we already established the points and I'm clear we can stop.
Speaker 7: Eric is what a psychology? What do you have, like
Speaker 7: a degree in psychology or something? So he's all about.
Speaker 2: It's all about.
Speaker 6: He's all about I don't know.
Speaker 7: He's always about the mind. To him is very fascinating
Speaker 7: to talk about a fight with my feelings, and he
Speaker 7: talks and talks about the same thing over and over.
Speaker 7: And I said, I got it already.
Speaker 6: You're tired of having the same fight over and over
Speaker 6: and over again.
Speaker 7: But I don't know if it happens to you, Dana,
Speaker 7: that when he repeats himself over and over again, I
Speaker 7: go from understanding so now I'm annoyed.
Speaker 2: I so I hear you, but it's you're now Mike
Speaker 2: in the situation, and I'm now Eric because I even
Speaker 2: today we had a we had it. We were we
Speaker 2: were fighting and you know, we were in bed. We
Speaker 2: started to talk at I don't know what time was
Speaker 2: it early morning, like seven, and we finished it around
Speaker 2: like noon, so like you know, it was, but it
Speaker 2: was one of those where like I I repeat myself
Speaker 2: because I feel like he doesn't hear me or he
Speaker 2: doesn't empathize with me, and so I keep repeating until
Speaker 2: I feel empathy, and you know, he's like, you're annoying.
Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm like, but but like, why
Speaker 2: do are you saying the same thing over because I'm like,
Speaker 2: because I don't think you understand, because you aren't empathizing
Speaker 2: with my feelings.
Speaker 3: She just I'm just a beaten batter dog. And then
Speaker 3: I finally realize, like, Okay, I actually hear you now
Speaker 3: after hour five of going in circles, you got my
Speaker 3: white flag. Is here's my empathy.
Speaker 7: That they would be you know what with Eric at
Speaker 7: the beginning, he was so big and like you have
Speaker 7: to say sorry, you have to apologize. And when I
Speaker 7: when you don't think you're wrong or like I don't
Speaker 7: think I did anything to apologize for, it will give
Speaker 7: me a really hard time to comprehend why I have
Speaker 7: to back down and apologize. I haven't done anything. But
Speaker 7: just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that
Speaker 7: I'm wrong. Now, like after fifteen years, sometimes I just
Speaker 7: go Let me just say I'm freaking sorry, and he'll
Speaker 7: get over it very fast.
Speaker 6: Everybody has their truth of the situation. Yeah right. So
Speaker 6: like if if you did something that I relaves to
Speaker 6: a fight whatever that bothered me, it's easy just to
Speaker 6: be like, I understand you, I understand what I did.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry for that. I don't think I'm wrong. I
Speaker 6: didn't do anything wrong. In your mind, you didn't do
Speaker 6: anything wrong, but in my mind you did. I think
Speaker 6: you can go both ways, where you could just apologize
Speaker 6: and find the common ground.
Speaker 3: Apologizing doesn't have to admit fault.
Speaker 7: Yeah right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the deal, though, If I just say
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he doesn't go ahead, go ahead, no, but
Speaker 2: you want more of like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when Jana says, well, when I have to
Speaker 3: apologize to Janna. It's gotta be I'm talking you turned
Speaker 3: on the Lifetime movie like I gotta be down and like, honey,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Like I could be hired as an actor
Speaker 3: maybe because of my apologies, Like they're fantastic, that's not
Speaker 3: Her stories are like hey, what's that player? I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: All right, like pat on the butt and then like
Speaker 3: walks out the room and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, no, no, no, no, not at all. That's awesome. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I love you guys. Hey, you guys have
Speaker 2: podcasts too that you're doing right, Yes, yes, cool? He said,
Speaker 2: Is that so fun? It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: And you know, it's so funny. I just did this
Speaker 7: thing for the Latino market this this show this morning,
Speaker 7: and they were asking me, like how do you get
Speaker 7: out of out of the podcast? And I said, you
Speaker 7: know what, it has become like a like a like
Speaker 7: a therapy session, you know, because we we talk about
Speaker 7: a lot of things that are kind of like intimate,
Speaker 7: you know, and and we are very real and we
Speaker 7: have worked out arguments while we do the podcast with
Speaker 7: a lot of humor, you know, and at the end
Speaker 7: it's it's very refreshing. We actually go like you know
Speaker 7: that that was fine, that was good. That was good.
Speaker 3: It helps a lot, that's awesome. Good for you guys, Well,
Speaker 3: good luck with that. And we appreciate you guys coming
Speaker 3: on ours and kind of doing the same thing with us.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Eric and Ratlin, thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: And that's awesome and we can we can do this, okay, marriages.
Speaker 2: Marriages is a good fight. Okay, we can do it.
Speaker 1: It is
Speaker 7: Good luck on your thank you Mama, Thanks you guys.