Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: on Denas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three
Speaker 1: The Fan. We are back here from the s TOWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Dane Brugler, Kevin
Speaker 1: Turner stepped out to do some radio some other radio
Speaker 1: work that he has to take care of. You are
Speaker 1: listening to the coverage of the eighty first NFL Draft
Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five
Speaker 1: three The Fan. We are waiting for the commissioner to
Speaker 1: make his way or I think the commissioner dismissioner still
Speaker 1: do the second round. I think he kicks it off
Speaker 1: and then they and then they had handed off to
Speaker 1: Troy Benson or somebody like that. I used to be
Speaker 1: Gene Washington back in the day. I don't know where see,
Speaker 1: but we are patiently waiting the start of this second round.
Speaker 1: Just to give you a little bit of an idea,
Speaker 1: the picks in this round will be seven minutes apiece.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh that from my experience, they go very rapidly.
Speaker 1: Team have had an idea that they've sat on their
Speaker 1: boards overnight. They've talked about what they need to do,
Speaker 1: and Browns are on the clock, and the Browns will
Speaker 1: be on the clock. So that's the Browns, the Titans,
Speaker 1: and then the Dallas Cowboys. The first three we've talked
Speaker 1: about teams potentially going up and trying to figure this out,
Speaker 1: trying to maybe grab this pick from the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: named Burglar with some of his sources as as confirmed,
Speaker 1: and that potentially this pick, you know, is for sale,
Speaker 1: and teams have offered next year's one to maybe take
Speaker 1: that opportunity. So it seems like they're leaning there's a
Speaker 1: guy here they want. They're not going to pass, all right.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're going to turn down some of
Speaker 1: these offers they've received, which is very interesting. Tells you
Speaker 1: how much they love this player. So I we'll find
Speaker 1: out here in a few minutes who that player is. Jeff,
Speaker 1: These these I was gonna say, these drafts you mentioned
Speaker 1: seven minutes. Is this any different from when you were
Speaker 1: running a draft? I was reading about a Gil Brandt
Speaker 1: article about drafting the sixties where cly the Cowboys put
Speaker 1: the draft on hold for six hours. Yeah, to have
Speaker 1: a doctor drive and check out a player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got yeah, and by the way, yeah, very good, Kent,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. War room cam now available. As
Speaker 1: we look around the room, if you're able to see,
Speaker 1: Jerry Junior would be on the far left and the
Speaker 1: screen Jason Garrett of course, there Charlotte Jones Anderson between
Speaker 1: her father there, Jerry Senior, Stephen Jones, Will McClay and
Speaker 1: chair next to Stephen. And then as the bottom you
Speaker 1: see is Chris Hall, the coordinator of college scouting, who's
Speaker 1: will be on the phone with Robert Blackwell in Chicago
Speaker 1: when the pick in fact goes in. Guys, we got
Speaker 1: a little taste yesterday in war room cam early Gary
Speaker 1: Brown into the draft room. Maybe we'll get some kind
Speaker 1: of some kind of a little tipped off hint here,
Speaker 1: but uh uh, it's it's good to have everybody in
Speaker 1: the room. They're they're studying. Uh, they have an idea
Speaker 1: of what direction they would I'd like to go, and
Speaker 1: we'll just see what happens in front of them. We've
Speaker 1: made the mention about Emmanuel being a guy that they
Speaker 1: potentially like Dane on some intelligence thinks maybe he might
Speaker 1: be a pick at at Cleveland right ahead of them.
Speaker 1: So you always have to be prepared at this time.
Speaker 1: It's a very nervous time for the guys because of
Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going to happen in front
Speaker 1: of you to start the draft. The pick could be moved,
Speaker 1: you could get blindsided quickly that you didn't have the
Speaker 1: intelligence on that. So everybody in the room just getting
Speaker 1: ready to go. And it looks like just looking on
Speaker 1: the monitor here that we have from the NFL network,
Speaker 1: it looks like that they're getting ready to kick this
Speaker 1: this draft off. So how does everybody feel about the night?
Speaker 1: Maybe what we'll see this Day two is always fun
Speaker 1: because you know, we can these are guys that aren't
Speaker 1: the superstars, but they're starters in the league and so
Speaker 1: really eager to see the fit and first round mocks
Speaker 1: are of second rondmarks are even tougher. So a lot
Speaker 1: of unpredictable moves here coming up. Okay, what looks like
Speaker 1: that some some VIPs are making their way to the
Speaker 1: to the stage area. So we'll get this kicked off
Speaker 1: here shortly and we'll go to back to Chicago, Illinois
Speaker 1: for the opening of the NFL job. We got everybody, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you Chicago. We had more than one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: fans here last night and we're ready for mart for
Speaker 1: tonight's second and third round. We are honored to welcome
Speaker 1: Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year. Are underies from
Speaker 1: every team fus NFL legends, including these eight Hall of
Speaker 1: famers from the Chief, Will Shield from the Raiders, Willie
Speaker 1: Brown from the Dolphins, Larry's Unca from the Colts and
Speaker 1: the Rams, Marshall Fall from the Rams, and the most
Speaker 1: recent Hall of Famer, Orlando Pace to my far right
Speaker 1: from the Bills, Bruce Smith from the Steelers, Lynn Swan,
Speaker 1: and from the Browns and Dolphins, Paul Warfield Fault and
Speaker 1: from your Chicago Bears, Dick Buckish. Hello Chicago, home of
Speaker 1: the greatest fans in the world. It's have a great
Speaker 1: time tonight and as always God Bears. All right, thank you, Dick.
Speaker 1: The second round of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft is
Speaker 1: now open. All right, Well that, uh, Dick buckis opened
Speaker 1: at the Chicago legend. Uh so, uh we'll see how this,
Speaker 1: uh this plays out. The the Browns are officially on
Speaker 1: the clock taking a peek at the room. While that
Speaker 1: was all going on, and with the Cowboys, Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: was on his cell phone. Uh. It seems to be
Speaker 1: he's been operating uh that way. Uh, at least through
Speaker 1: the first night. He's been taking a lot of calls
Speaker 1: instead of using the banks of phones in front. So
Speaker 1: obviously some guys got his own private number there and
Speaker 1: uh going that direct route. Uh we'll see if in
Speaker 1: fact what uh what transpires from that. Um A lot
Speaker 1: of really we've talked about this guy's a lot of
Speaker 1: really good football players, uh in in waiting right now
Speaker 1: that could be selected it as we get going in
Speaker 1: the second round, and we've we've also I feel like
Speaker 1: there's been because I guess because they've had a night
Speaker 1: to sleep on it to get their boards ready, and
Speaker 1: then they had another day to get ready. And now
Speaker 1: we're finally getting back on the clock. It's like so
Speaker 1: many rumors about who might do what. I know earlier
Speaker 1: there was talk that, hey, are the Cowboys talking about
Speaker 1: coming to number thirty two. Talk to Stephen Jones earlier.
Speaker 1: I said confirm or deny? He said deny. So we
Speaker 1: kind of see what's happening. And I think being just
Speaker 1: a couple of picks away, I think you start playing
Speaker 1: a game like we all have our rankings of our players.
Speaker 1: We all have our boards set out what we'd like
Speaker 1: to see happen. And you're talking about certain players to
Speaker 1: open it up, Emmanuel Ogbah, the defensive end from Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: And you almost play a game with your team where
Speaker 1: you're watching and you're hoping to hear certain names come
Speaker 1: off just because different people see guys differently. You have
Speaker 1: a different evaluation on a player, and there's a couple
Speaker 1: of names that you kind of hope to hear another
Speaker 1: their team call that name, so that your team doesn't
Speaker 1: have that option, even though a lot of people are
Speaker 1: gonna think, hey, this player is really good. Well, you
Speaker 1: talk about my life in a draft room, right they're
Speaker 1: talking about in Oklahoma State and defensive end right now
Speaker 1: that i'd really like to see go at number thirty two.
Speaker 1: So he's not an option at thirty four. Uh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the other one yes, the other one yes, the other one. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at Cleveland's uh they addressed last night
Speaker 1: they went wide receiver with their with their pick with Coleman,
Speaker 1: and outside they're looking outside defensive lineman, defensive end, uh
Speaker 1: a quarterback possibility and yeah, and then if you're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Wouldn't you have picked a pick sooner? Wouldn't
Speaker 1: you want a fifth year? I don't have to give
Speaker 1: up a pick and they only Yeah, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: sound really strange. I know you're gonna hate me saying this,
Speaker 1: but i'd heard some whispers that they like Kessler from
Speaker 1: from USC. We're in the second round. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've just said, but we've talked quarterbacks Tobot Quarby. It
Speaker 1: might not. They might not hit the guy here earlier.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, Cody Kess, keep an eye on
Speaker 1: that might be. Yeah, it might be that Lake on
Speaker 1: the wind off Lake Erie. Well, Dane, I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you we might be talking tomorrow in this draft. But
Speaker 1: I think back in the day when they had fifteen rounds,
Speaker 1: you could you could maybe talk about that a little bit. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the the just taking a shot at a player just
Speaker 1: tak Cleveland. Yeah, they m evidently have made the pick,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know we've talked about that. Their needs
Speaker 1: are again, defensive end could be a possibility here which
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then the offensive tackle and core and
Speaker 1: U center. Talk to me about again these defensive ends
Speaker 1: we have Spence, we have Calhoun, we have Ogba. Out
Speaker 1: of that group, you know, you've talked about ob a
Speaker 1: bunch and you feel like you're on the right track
Speaker 1: there with Obah. Yeah, just the name that I've said
Speaker 1: as Spen and talked about the most here. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know how he fits that three four. It's interesting,
Speaker 1: but again that's the that's the name that has been
Speaker 1: talked about the most. And then I've heard the most
Speaker 1: not only with the Browns but other teams. At the
Speaker 1: top of the second round, Jeff, is anything any uh?
Speaker 1: You know, we again, I've talked about Spence, how about cheerfuling.
Speaker 1: You said you don't want to take the player at all,
Speaker 1: and you're hoping that the Browns make this pick, right.
Speaker 1: You just want to you want to just take this
Speaker 1: one off your board, don't you. Yeah, that's you know,
Speaker 1: I just I think personally for me personally, I look
Speaker 1: down at my board and you talk about defensive ends,
Speaker 1: and I know the Cowboys have a need at it.
Speaker 1: I like Jonathan Bullard, yeah, you know, and aad ahead
Speaker 1: of the Oklahoma State kid. I like Ronald Blair at
Speaker 1: Appalachian State, and that's one of the guys that I
Speaker 1: think is the hardest to pin where he's gonna go
Speaker 1: because you're talking about small school, bad combine tape against
Speaker 1: a lot of small schools, All Star game where he
Speaker 1: was hurt, all sorts of things with him. But Chalik Calhoun,
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd to me, there's just other defensive ends I prefer.
Speaker 1: So I would love to hear Oba's name called here. Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like the pick is in for the Browns.
Speaker 1: They're talking about it right now on the television side
Speaker 1: of it. Though, we sat down and watched a little
Speaker 1: bit more tape of him. Did you find any positive
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to positives. I mean, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think about the cowboys here, but I may just
Speaker 1: give me some is there's some things that you kind
Speaker 1: of saw from him that you would make you believe that, hey, this,
Speaker 1: you know, there's positives, and I think you can I
Speaker 1: don't even know if you should say start because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of positives. You're talking about a thirteen sack guy.
Speaker 1: That's production, right, You're talking about the measurables at the combine,
Speaker 1: that's athleticism. I think there's a lot of things to
Speaker 1: like about the guy. I think the motor is good.
Speaker 1: I just saw a guy that, to me, he managed
Speaker 1: to get the corner on guys without really having any
Speaker 1: sort of bend. And I don't know how often that's
Speaker 1: gonna work in the NFL, but you're watching a guy
Speaker 1: that he pulled it off. He was a productive player.
Speaker 1: He measures really well. So you said like you were
Speaker 1: prefer like a guy like Calhoun as opposed to Oba.
Speaker 1: I really like Bullard. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: submit the edge those right right in Rusher, So that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I was thinking about right there. So
Speaker 1: they've said that they're going right in Rusher take Noah Spense. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the the Browns. In fact, the pick is in. We're
Speaker 1: just waiting for the commissioner and make the trip. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones is on the phone. He's looking at his uh,
Speaker 1: his legal sheet in front of him, which would be
Speaker 1: his numbers for trade. Uh. He might have a team.
Speaker 1: It's very interested now at least seeing where he's at.
Speaker 1: He's hung up the phone. Uh, And I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: convey that message to the rest of the room. What
Speaker 1: they're trying to move, who's trying to move up and
Speaker 1: to maybe take this pick. Uh. Like I said, the
Speaker 1: Browns pick is in, that would put Tennessee on the clock. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're just not moving along here very quickly. Uh. As
Speaker 1: far as they're walking it in from Cleveland, I don't
Speaker 1: know that. They probably forgot how the Browns. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: they seemed to be trading back and back and back,
Speaker 1: and so maybe they lost track of where their table
Speaker 1: is on this uh on this uh on this draft
Speaker 1: area here. But uh, yeah, you know, I just see.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, though, Damian, we talked about that
Speaker 1: the first kneed. It could very well be. OK. Well,
Speaker 1: here's here's the commissioner. I believe the commissioner is gonna
Speaker 1: make this pick. They had the nice long walk last night,
Speaker 1: and so it looks like maybe Paul Warfield with him.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna guess here, but I did throw that.
Speaker 1: I just didn't guess. How about that Paul Warfield, he's
Speaker 1: a former Brown's great soul. Let's go to podium. Here
Speaker 1: we go. Cleve, please welcome from the Ohio State University,
Speaker 1: the eleventh overall pick of the nineteen sixty fourth draft
Speaker 1: by the Browns. Nineteen eighty three Hall of Fame inductee
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Paul Warfielder Baller. With the thirty second pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, M Cleveland Browns select
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Ogball. Now there you go, explited this is earlier.
Speaker 1: How Emmanuel Ogba has been the name that I heard
Speaker 1: more and more and more. And how's that war room
Speaker 1: looking right now? Because I think this is the guy
Speaker 1: they wanted at thirty four. Yes, well, Stephen Jones is
Speaker 1: working the phone's hard right now and he's I think
Speaker 1: they're trying to move this pick. This puts Tennessee on
Speaker 1: the clock in front of them, and I just want
Speaker 1: to go through potentially what Tennessee's needs are real quick
Speaker 1: for everybody out there. So they have an idea. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones again, it's obviously he's trying to move this pick.
Speaker 1: Will McClay and Jason Garrett and those guys looking up
Speaker 1: at that board trying to figure this out. Uh, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I got they took the they took the offensive tackle
Speaker 1: last night, right, so we're looking at we're talking about
Speaker 1: in Turier defensive linemen, maybe an outside linebacker, maybe a safety.
Speaker 1: Though uh we you know there were alignment again we're
Speaker 1: talking about defensive lineman. There's are there are some guys
Speaker 1: on this board that are inside players. We've talked about buildings,
Speaker 1: we've talked about read. You know, there's now some you know,
Speaker 1: we've got one of the defensive ends picked off. You know,
Speaker 1: could could we see you know, what do you guys
Speaker 1: feel about again, Bullard or Dodd here for Tennessee? Would
Speaker 1: that hurt you? If DoD or Bullard were to go
Speaker 1: for Tennessee? Would that How would that affect you? Right now?
Speaker 1: I think we're looking defensive line here with Tennessee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a team that needs a lot of help
Speaker 1: on defense, and there's a lot of options here they
Speaker 1: can go, whether it's a pass rusher or a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Alabama guys are there. Agba's gone, and we're going to
Speaker 1: see a little run on these pass rushers that yink.
Speaker 1: I mean with the teams that we have here with
Speaker 1: Tennessee up next, Dallas up next? Who are the two
Speaker 1: guys we talked about most about the defensive ends for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at thirty four? Agba and Dodd. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know augu was off the board. What about this
Speaker 1: next pick? It could could have Tennessee Titans pluck that
Speaker 1: other guy that they were considering, and Dodd the picks in. Well,
Speaker 1: the pick is in, and there sat Steven Jones, but
Speaker 1: they're having some trouble in the war room right now.
Speaker 1: The phones just aren't working for me. They went to
Speaker 1: an alternative line to see if they can get Stevens
Speaker 1: trying to make the pick is in. That would then
Speaker 1: put Dallas on the clock. Uh if when in fact
Speaker 1: this pick is in, So Steven Jones trying to move
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones patiently looking at his numbers. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: some math going on. Yeah, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: math going on right now. So look for Dallas to
Speaker 1: potentially move out of this pick. They might have just
Speaker 1: lost their guy. Uh, we'll see you talk about Jeff.
Speaker 1: What do you like about Dodd? If we were Bullard Dodd,
Speaker 1: you seem to like Bollard a little bit better than Dodd.
Speaker 1: But again, does this hurt you though? If you to
Speaker 1: lose one of either one of those guys, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think you can hurt the Cowboys, because,
Speaker 1: like Dana's saying, those are the two names we heard
Speaker 1: the most. Dodd was a guy that visited Valley Ranch,
Speaker 1: but for a guy who was sort of a one
Speaker 1: year producer at Clemson, and to me, it's hard not
Speaker 1: to watch a Clemson game and compare him to the
Speaker 1: guy on the other side. And with Shaq Lawson, I'm
Speaker 1: watching a guy who's so powerful, he's so young. There's
Speaker 1: an athleticism there. And with Dodd the word I kind
Speaker 1: of use is nifty as a pass rusher, like I
Speaker 1: think he's slippery. Yeah, he's creative with the way that
Speaker 1: he uses his hands to sort of keep himself free.
Speaker 1: Nothing about him really jumped out at me as a
Speaker 1: prospect that I love as a pass rusher. But he's
Speaker 1: a guy that just he sort of found a way
Speaker 1: to get it done. So he's an intriguing player. I
Speaker 1: don't dislike the player, but it's just not somebody I'm
Speaker 1: jumping at when I'm basically at the end of the
Speaker 1: first round and make it a pick Dane. He talk
Speaker 1: to me about Bullard real quick, if you could. I
Speaker 1: love Bullard as a left end and a guy that
Speaker 1: can kick inside as a three technique on passing down.
Speaker 1: I love his penetration, the quickness off the snap, his
Speaker 1: block recognition, and his ability to convert that first step
Speaker 1: into power is exactly what you want, whether it's on
Speaker 1: the edge or it's on the interior. He's not that
Speaker 1: you know, speed demon around the edge. He's just you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna capture the edge and have that flexibility. He's
Speaker 1: got a little awkward body type as well. But with Bullard,
Speaker 1: I think he can be a disruptor. Whether you play
Speaker 1: at left end, we probably play him inside. He has
Speaker 1: that versatility. Well, Dallas is apparently on the clock, and
Speaker 1: they've been on the clock now for a while, and
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is frantically working these phones. That the best
Speaker 1: offer here, Brian, you gotta get them all. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Steven is trying his best to field as many calls
Speaker 1: as he can. Chris hauled down in the bottom right
Speaker 1: of the screen is on the phone with Robert Blackwell
Speaker 1: in Chicago. So let's see what Stephen. He just hung
Speaker 1: up the phone and they're they're working hard to figure
Speaker 1: this out. So I think it looks like everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of agreement that they might move this pick. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: saying this, let's see if Chris is If Chris hangs
Speaker 1: up that phone, then they're probably gonna move this pick
Speaker 1: that got a little dicey for them. Right now, let's see,
Speaker 1: well and this is interesting, and well, here we got
Speaker 1: the commission coming. Okay, Chmissier is coming to the podium.
Speaker 1: Let's see who the Tennessee Titans took, and then the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cows beyond the clock right after that to announcy
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans selection. Please welcome from the University of Florida.
Speaker 1: The sixteenth overall draft pick by the Titans in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, Steve Menti, then Javarn Curse, and with the
Speaker 1: thirty third pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: that Tennessee Titans select Kevin Dodd. All right, back tens.
Speaker 1: That's where we talked about defensive ends. There you go.
Speaker 1: First two picks in the second round both gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's Kevin Dodd. So, Dane, you said it earlier
Speaker 1: that these we could get a little bit of a run.
Speaker 1: Will McClay he's on the phone. Chris hallis just hung
Speaker 1: up the phone for Chicago. Will is trying to do
Speaker 1: a little work to himself. And so let's see, there's
Speaker 1: the handshakes are going around. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: shake hands, if you're moving picks. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: let's think about think about some possibilities here. Uh you know, Dallas,
Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, no defensive no defensive ends
Speaker 1: right now that nobody that you really like. We've talked
Speaker 1: about some uh you know, maybe even some linebackers here,
Speaker 1: uh you know, we defensive backs. I mean, could could
Speaker 1: there be any picks that really surprise you? Would one
Speaker 1: of what would one of the the injured players maybe
Speaker 1: surprise you good? I think in a good way, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I guess. My gut over the
Speaker 1: last couple of days has been that I don't know
Speaker 1: how far Miles Jack or Noah Spence would have to
Speaker 1: slide for the Cowboys to actually consider him. Although Steven,
Speaker 1: when we talked to him on the show, he he
Speaker 1: did acknowledge. He said it right to us that yes,
Speaker 1: Noah Spense is on our board right and today talking
Speaker 1: to him, he said, yeah, we've got a couple of
Speaker 1: first round guys still there. And he said, but some
Speaker 1: of them, you know, he mentioned medical and other things.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like they may have evaluated these guys's
Speaker 1: first round players and having there on the board of
Speaker 1: the matter, when will you take and you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about that. Let's we with Jalen Smith and here's
Speaker 1: here's the pick. No trade, Yeah, no trade. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: made this pick. Let's see who they took to announced
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys selection. Please welcome from the University of
Speaker 1: Miami world pick and with ninety the Dallas Cowboys two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven Hall of Fame inductee wide receiver Michael Lury.
Speaker 1: Give enough first, Jerry, you guys. With the thirty fourth
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: sell Jayleen Smith, linebacker. Who would have thought Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: ahead of Miles Jack? Holy cow, unbelievable, Holy cow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when do we anticipate that he can play football? Well,
Speaker 1: the doctors, the doctor Cooper did the surgery on him.
Speaker 1: We've mentioned this, We mentioned this on the draft show.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that that there were some around the league
Speaker 1: that thought Jaylen Smith. They'd rather take a chance on
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith than Miles Jack because with Jalen Smith, it's
Speaker 1: more of a you know kind of we just have
Speaker 1: to wait, we have to be patient. With Miles Jack,
Speaker 1: it's that knees just going south and it's not gonna
Speaker 1: get any better. Yeah. So with Jalen Smith, it's it's
Speaker 1: a red shirt ear But man, this could pay off huge.
Speaker 1: It's a big risk here at thirty four. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: thirty prize. This team is taking risks. I know, it's
Speaker 1: a totally different one from the ones that have sort
Speaker 1: of let him down. But just everything that I had
Speaker 1: heard about Jaylen Smith rush percentages and when he might
Speaker 1: be able to place the opposite of the first round
Speaker 1: the first round pick is win now the second round
Speaker 1: pick is for the future. So it's it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I'll have to I have to admit though, I am
Speaker 1: I am shocked that they took Jalen Smith here at
Speaker 1: this particular time, and with all the things that we've
Speaker 1: talked about with defense, potentially with guys on the board,
Speaker 1: you know, it's far. But again, they don't care what
Speaker 1: we think. It's about what they think. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I would be really I'll be interested to hear the
Speaker 1: description about why they went this route. Uh, Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: the linebacker, he's not gonna play football this year, guys,
Speaker 1: He's not going to play for him and and let's
Speaker 1: see if what happens next year as far as but
Speaker 1: doctor doctor Cooper very fine, uh sergeant here in Dallas, Texas,
Speaker 1: a team doctor for the Cowboys, did his surgery. They
Speaker 1: have the they have the U, the understand ending of
Speaker 1: where he is at medically. He was at the recheck.
Speaker 1: This guy is an outstanding football player when healthy. You know,
Speaker 1: he would have given U He would have been a
Speaker 1: top five selection if healthy, and so you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe he would have been a guy that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would have taken at four if he was healthy. But
Speaker 1: they grab him here at thirty four. I'm again, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very very surprised that they that they went to
Speaker 1: this route. Everybody in the war room looks very pleased
Speaker 1: with the pick. I just find it's a very interesting
Speaker 1: route to go for a team that needs defensive help,
Speaker 1: and they're taking a huge risk here in my opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'll be very interested to hear
Speaker 1: the press conference because because, like you say, this team
Speaker 1: is going to know as well as anybody what it
Speaker 1: means for him medically. Yeah. Well, I had not heard
Speaker 1: anything that made me think Jalen Smith is going to
Speaker 1: be rip roaring and ready to go in even in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Yeah, so we'll see heck of a player
Speaker 1: there again. And some doctors felt better about Smith's than
Speaker 1: Jack's injury because they feel just a matter of time
Speaker 1: and being patient. But again, no one knows more about
Speaker 1: this injury than the Cowboys. That doctor Cooper. Again, I
Speaker 1: can't emphasize the type of surgeon that he is. He's
Speaker 1: you know, they they've got your guy in Alabama. Doctor
Speaker 1: Cooper's right there with him. So this is one of
Speaker 1: those ones where you just you know, you're you're you're
Speaker 1: hopefully betting on the come right here with the with
Speaker 1: the knee, that in fact that he can rehab, he
Speaker 1: can be healthy. Everybody again in the worm is very happy. Now.
Speaker 1: I wonder where Miles Jack is gonna go, Dane, you've
Speaker 1: talked about that. I think now that we saw Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith get picked, I think Miles Jack will be down
Speaker 1: the line, maybe one, two, three picks down the road.
Speaker 1: Picks in right now for the San Diego Chargers. They're
Speaker 1: picking behind the Cowboys at thirty five. Let's go the podium.
Speaker 1: Chargers selection, Please welcome from San Jose State University. The
Speaker 1: twenty second overall draft pick by the Chargers in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three cornerback Gilbert Thank You. With the thirty fifth
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the San Diego
Speaker 1: Chargers select Hunter Henry tight ends Antonio Gates and student. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Hunter Henry is your guy, the tight end. Uh, Jeff,
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Hunter Henry as far as outside.
Speaker 1: I don't catch it his Yeah, I don't think his
Speaker 1: scouting report is very complicated. Yeah. I think a guy
Speaker 1: that'll get down field for you, a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: catch everything, and and I don't that's not being too
Speaker 1: generous with the phrase catch everything. You might say that
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, but with Hunter Henry, it's
Speaker 1: really true. You give him a chance to catch it,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna catch it. You ask him to block it.
Speaker 1: Ain't an organ Yeah, vacuum hands. Yeah, he is one
Speaker 1: of the one of the better pass receiving tight ends
Speaker 1: that you will ever see. Okay, we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: break right here. When we come back, we'll get more
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Speaker 1: Kevin Turner at Cheff Cabinat We're all trying to catch
Speaker 1: our breaths right now. Jacksonville is now they are on
Speaker 1: the clock, or actually they're gonna turn the pick in
Speaker 1: right now. They got this pick from Baltimore for pick
Speaker 1: one forty six. So we go to the podium and
Speaker 1: the commissioner with Jacksonville's pick, please welcome from the University
Speaker 1: of Florida. In the nine eight draft by the Jaguars
Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. Yeah, Fred Taylor would be thirty
Speaker 1: six pick. In two thousand sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars select Miles Jack back there. Who would have thought
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jacked at the Jaguars. That's two
Speaker 1: of the best athletes in this draft. Yeah, Miles Jack
Speaker 1: plays four years in this in this league. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's worth it. It seems like to me that you know,
Speaker 1: all the things that and again it's that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have They're gonna explain to us tonight when they had
Speaker 1: this press conference, you know, and and I guarantee it.
Speaker 1: The you know, doctor Cooper is a heck of a doctor.
Speaker 1: He really really is. And uh, but you know this
Speaker 1: this they just took a guy at uh at thirty
Speaker 1: four that is not gonna play, whereas Jacksonville took a
Speaker 1: guy that is gonna play. He might play for four
Speaker 1: or five years, he might play four games, he might
Speaker 1: play fourteen years. We don't know. Two of the most
Speaker 1: talented players in the entire draft that Jacksonville has drafted,
Speaker 1: now they got one of them in the thirties. Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: say the same thing about the Cowboys. But it's just
Speaker 1: but then my feeling is just that is the linebacker
Speaker 1: that I wanted. Sure, it's just me. That's that is
Speaker 1: the linebacker that I wanted. Do you think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: panicked that all here? Do you think they they Ogbo
Speaker 1: was their guy? He goes at thirty two. They try
Speaker 1: to trade back maybe and still get Smith. A trade
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, can't get it done. They just take their
Speaker 1: guy there. You think maybe a little bit of panic
Speaker 1: or yeah, I think I don't know. I mean it
Speaker 1: looked like to me there was a lot of grabbing phones,
Speaker 1: a lot of trying to move. That question needs to
Speaker 1: be asked. You know, as you watched the war room
Speaker 1: cam go on, you were scared that somebody was gonna
Speaker 1: take Jalen Smith in the thirties. Yeah, well, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you Jerry and Stephen Jones will tell us that Belichick
Speaker 1: and then we're probably where's New England picking Newing Am
Speaker 1: picking there at sixty one one or something like that,
Speaker 1: or sixty one of those picks, he probably would have said, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they'll just they're gonna, they're gonna grab it. I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I felt like that that uh,
Speaker 1: there's other players on this board that they could have
Speaker 1: used to help right now, immediate help if if in
Speaker 1: fact it uh that Jalen Smith works out, you know
Speaker 1: down the road he works out. You know, That's that's
Speaker 1: just the thing about it is, It's that's the unfortunate thing,
Speaker 1: uh that we have to uh that uh, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know that That's yeah, I don't right here,
Speaker 1: I am, because we don't know the conversations. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know, and and we we do need to
Speaker 1: figure it this out though, about what we saw in
Speaker 1: that war room. Sure, Stephen Jones trying to trade Okay,
Speaker 1: Kansas City, real quick, k Kansas City. It was on
Speaker 1: the clock. Uh, they were behind. They got this pick
Speaker 1: from San Francisco and uh so let's see this will
Speaker 1: be the pick uh thirty seven uh for uh but
Speaker 1: for the for the for the draft and then for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs it will be at the second round pick.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, Well, I was just gonna say, like
Speaker 1: the word panic was still add about the scene, and
Speaker 1: it was telecommunications insanity in there. There's six or seven
Speaker 1: phones and twelve people and twenty four arms, you know,
Speaker 1: hitting numbers like, but we have no idea what the
Speaker 1: discussion was. It did sure up here like they were
Speaker 1: trying to trade out, though, didn't it look like? I
Speaker 1: mean they were just staring at the trade chart and
Speaker 1: making calls. But like, is that what we where we thought?
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Smith, is that I was three or
Speaker 1: four rounds ahead of where I thought. Jalen Smith, well,
Speaker 1: not where I thought he would go. I heard or
Speaker 1: had seen people picking him to go much earlier. But
Speaker 1: where I would take the risk that from everything that
Speaker 1: I've heard about that injury, where I think that risk
Speaker 1: is worthwhile is like the fifth or sixth round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was at the top of two with first
Speaker 1: round players on the board. Yeah, and he's probably one
Speaker 1: of the first round players on talent. But you're talking
Speaker 1: about a board that's sitting there with Noah Spence and
Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Andrew Billings. The commissioner is coming with
Speaker 1: a pick here, Yeah, here we go. The Chiefs have
Speaker 1: got the selection, and uh, let's see what direction they go.
Speaker 1: Commission Chiefs Election, Please welcome from Auburn University, an undrafted
Speaker 1: free agent in nineteen ninety five and recent inductee into
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Ring and Hall of Fame, fullback Tony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Back to with the thirty seventh pick. And in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, the kansidy To Chiefs selected Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle miss And there you go, Chris Jones, the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Mississippi State. I'm still shaking up over here.
Speaker 1: I don't I think we need stunned. I'm still stunned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that we just need to take our breath
Speaker 1: and get a circumposure back. People asking us on Twitter
Speaker 1: if y'all could just clarify what the injury is to
Speaker 1: Jalen and why it's so dangerous. I guess a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of questions about that. We could pull
Speaker 1: that and then we could pull that up if we could.
Speaker 1: About Katie, you had that in front of you though, Well,
Speaker 1: the original injury, it's it's a torn a cl and
Speaker 1: lco right, that was the original injury in the Fiestable
Speaker 1: in January on New Year's Day, and then he had
Speaker 1: surgery and the question was it was it dropped foot?
Speaker 1: You know that that's the kind of the issue he
Speaker 1: has to regrow basically attendant. Yeah. Uh. And so it's
Speaker 1: it's and it sounds as difficult as it as it
Speaker 1: is half a half I've heard half a centimeter a month, right,
Speaker 1: or a half an inch a month? Excuse me? How
Speaker 1: many inches do we need? It's attended And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like I'm at but it's just
Speaker 1: this year is out of the question. Now the next
Speaker 1: year can you get him back? That's the that's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, this is clearly a take the players,
Speaker 1: stash the player and hope like heck that it all
Speaker 1: comes back. And there's been people that said that it
Speaker 1: could be a he's got a ten percent chance coming back,
Speaker 1: a twenty. I had one team telling me that their
Speaker 1: doctors said there's twenty percent chance that Jalen Smith would
Speaker 1: ever play again. Yeah, and now obviously that's one team's opinion,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys they have more intel than anyone else
Speaker 1: with doctor Cooper team doctor performing the surgery. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's I don't want to, you know, start bashing this pick.
Speaker 1: You know, let's let's we have to wait and see
Speaker 1: how it plays out. But it's awfully risky. I mean
Speaker 1: that it's absolutely fair to say this is a very
Speaker 1: very risky pick. And you know, people are kind of
Speaker 1: impatient though when it comes to that. We just did
Speaker 1: the let's go win now move and go get Zeke
Speaker 1: and then you follow that up with the guy who's
Speaker 1: not gonna play next year. Yeah, that's a lot for
Speaker 1: fans to process. I totally understand that. Yeah, picking top
Speaker 1: thirty five in the draft, you want an instant contributor,
Speaker 1: and that's not the case here. Okay, it looks like
Speaker 1: to me just looking down that the Miami Dolphins are
Speaker 1: on the clock. So this is a pick that went
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville to Baltimore. Now it's my AMI's pick. It's
Speaker 1: a pick two thirty eight. Pick is gonna be in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get an interview here before Yeah, throughout a
Speaker 1: guess anybody like, let's talk about really what the team
Speaker 1: needs a little bit for for the Dolphins are Well,
Speaker 1: they go ahead, they want a running back? Great, there's
Speaker 1: an Alabama running back. Al Alabama running back available. Let's see. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see what that? What else we got? Uh? Running
Speaker 1: back available? Cornerback would be a need. They need a cornerback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell's kind of their best guy. And yeah, oh
Speaker 1: they don't mind small guys, do they. Brent Grimes was
Speaker 1: a small guy. Yeah. Mckensey Alexander a big good spot
Speaker 1: from mckensey Alexander. Yeah. Well it's a new it's a
Speaker 1: new regime down there too, general manager, new coaching staff.
Speaker 1: How did Miami get to this pick? This? This is
Speaker 1: a this was a It looks like to me the
Speaker 1: pick went from Jacksonville to Baltimore. That Baltimore probably moved
Speaker 1: it to again, moved it again, so Miami straightened up
Speaker 1: to get their guy. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see here.
Speaker 1: But uh, we talked about the quarterback running back. Uh
Speaker 1: let me let's talk two needs. Yeah, well, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this though you talked about we all kind
Speaker 1: of understand Dickson, Booker, Henry, those guys. Talk to me
Speaker 1: about these corners. Alexander Howard, Yeah, I think and Howard
Speaker 1: Fuller attack. I mean they it might be to go
Speaker 1: with some size here. I think they need to go
Speaker 1: defense with this pick, right, and I think those those
Speaker 1: corners you mentioned are all worthy at this point. Xavian
Speaker 1: Howard to me was the fifth corner off the board,
Speaker 1: or that's where he ranked on my rankings. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: he's not the prototype in terms of fundamentals and you know, mechanics,
Speaker 1: but he's got ball skills. He has his instincts, he
Speaker 1: knows how to play the position. Yeah, Jeff, can you
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what you think about if
Speaker 1: they go running back? How about about Henry or go Dixon, Booker,
Speaker 1: He one of those guys you want to pick if
Speaker 1: they go running back. Yeah, if you go running back,
Speaker 1: I've got Kenneth Dixon and DeVante Booker, both ahead of
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Yeah, because I think those are the guys
Speaker 1: that are your your three down backs in terms of
Speaker 1: run it, catch it block, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: Adam Gase is looking for the new head coach Miami.
Speaker 1: He needs a guy that's going to be a big
Speaker 1: part of the passing game. Yeah, and that's been a
Speaker 1: little bit of a question with Derrick Henry, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that could play a uh, you know, a part into
Speaker 1: this pick. Well, the doll And said they got this
Speaker 1: pick Jacksonville originally when the Days started, had this pick.
Speaker 1: It then went to Baltimore. Now it belongs to Miami,
Speaker 1: and we've we've talked a little bit about minas. Watch
Speaker 1: them take Xavian Howard. Do you like Davian Howard? Just
Speaker 1: NFL over six foot It's it's what the NFL loves
Speaker 1: in their cornerbacks right now. Like McKenzie. Alexander's a really
Speaker 1: good player, but being five ten, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you start dropping rounds and guys who are over six
Speaker 1: foot it's like bang, bang bang they come off the board. Okay,
Speaker 1: well real quick. Ken Garrison, some producer on the flight.
Speaker 1: We got the Jalen Smith secret audio. Let's go to
Speaker 1: that on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five
Speaker 1: three the fan Jay. Let this Jerry Jones with a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy. Are you doing, Darry Jones? Well, we're doing fine,
Speaker 1: and it's great to be talking to a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Well. Listen, we're excited. You've got a lot
Speaker 1: of support around this place, and so we're very excited.
Speaker 1: You're a hell of a hell of a player, but
Speaker 1: you come into a hell of a place and some
Speaker 1: great coaches. Yes, sir, thank you so much. And then
Speaker 1: here's our head coach, Jason Garrett. He won't say something
Speaker 1: to Jalen. How you doing, I'm doing great? Congratulations man, Oh,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate you so much. Well, we're
Speaker 1: so excited to have you and uh, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna love it here and I just want to say
Speaker 1: congratulations and can't wait to get you down here and
Speaker 1: get you worried. I appreciate you so much. Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: you got it all right. We're back there from Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: Call seemed very happy, very relieved. Well, hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully this goes well, and we can't say it enough
Speaker 1: that this team's doctors and training staff know as much
Speaker 1: as anybody, if not more, about that player. So hopefully
Speaker 1: after Rolando McClean plays out this contract to get into
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and all of a sudden, it's Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: standing next to Sean Lee. That's I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the positive picture you want to draw about it. Yep.
Speaker 1: Never a dull moment with the Dallas Cowboys. Never a
Speaker 1: dull moment with the Dallas Cowboys. It looks like Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell's up. Yeah, he's at the podium and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: have the elections. Please welcome from Syracuse University. The eighth
Speaker 1: overall pick in the nineteen sixty eight draft by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven Hall of Fame inductee fullback Larry Tuka.
Speaker 1: You're just a claud for me because I looked like
Speaker 1: buttkas nice. In the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins select Xavien Howard defensive back from Baylor.
Speaker 1: So Xavian Howard guy. We talked about different regime down
Speaker 1: there now, different general manager, out with the little corner,
Speaker 1: out with the big game out with the big We've
Speaker 1: talked about him. Uh. We all love his size, we
Speaker 1: all love the ability of him to play press man. Uh.
Speaker 1: Just doesn't miss a lot of tackles, looks back for
Speaker 1: the ball a lot of good Uh. I mean in
Speaker 1: my notes, I don't have him as one of the
Speaker 1: really truly sticky cover guys in terms of man to
Speaker 1: man defense. Yeah, some questions about zone coverage if I'm
Speaker 1: right about that, KT and and Dane right, some of
Speaker 1: some maybe some issues there. And the thing was Havian
Speaker 1: Howard is not always gonna look pretty, but he gets results.
Speaker 1: He does a lot of wide receiver like things at
Speaker 1: the catch point the ball. Skills are there. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he needs technique work, There's no question about that,
Speaker 1: especially with his pedal and the way he collects his
Speaker 1: footwork on the move. But he's instinctive. He's always in
Speaker 1: phase with the wide receiver. You know, you rarely see
Speaker 1: him when he's not in within arm's length of the receiver.
Speaker 1: So he's always he always keeps himself in position and
Speaker 1: make a play on the ball. A little handsy sometimes,
Speaker 1: but lit, yeah, a little. But he's not like Eli Apple,
Speaker 1: who's very gratty. Oh my god, the giants. We've seen
Speaker 1: that that thing goes okay, So, uh, Tampa Bay is
Speaker 1: now on the clock. Tampa Bay's needs coming in looking
Speaker 1: at uh, they're looking at some off assume some defensive
Speaker 1: lineman either inside outside that could be defensive end, uh
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. They addressed it with the corner uh yesterday.
Speaker 1: Still maybe looking for some defensive help here. Maybe one
Speaker 1: of the needs we talked about was, uh, the defensive end. Uh.
Speaker 1: On my board, I still got I still got guys
Speaker 1: like I got Noah's Spence on my board. I've got
Speaker 1: Calhoun on my board. I've got you know, I've got buildings.
Speaker 1: They could use some inside help there. Read you know
Speaker 1: guys like that Calhoun is. Let'll ask you this, you know.
Speaker 1: And I when I said Noah's Spence, everybody kind of
Speaker 1: perked up a little bit. Yeah, you know, is this
Speaker 1: about the time now that you stick thirty nine? Yeah
Speaker 1: we're thirty nine, I thought, yeah, yeah, I mean, is
Speaker 1: this is this too simple? Where Tampa Bay goes in
Speaker 1: and and they take like I said, they take Spence Calhoun.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying that. I
Speaker 1: think it's thirty nine. You could tell me Spence is
Speaker 1: gonna miss four games every year and I'd pick him.
Speaker 1: Yeah at thirty nine. Goodness, Well, let's do this then, Okay,
Speaker 1: if if we talk about Okay, we touched on those
Speaker 1: interior guys, we touched on the interior guys, the billings
Speaker 1: and then the reads, those times of guys who maybe
Speaker 1: the Tampa if they could use those such But let's
Speaker 1: talk about Spence. We haven't really talked about him. We
Speaker 1: all understand his situation. There's some teams that think, like, well,
Speaker 1: this guy might be a little bit of con artist.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they don't believe in all his whole thing.
Speaker 1: But his transgressions, I said it, a bunch is far
Speaker 1: more removed than everyone else is transgressed long ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just whenever you talk about a drug addiction, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it doesn't matter if it was five years ago
Speaker 1: or last week. It's just it's tough to you know,
Speaker 1: that drug addiction. That's that's a tough subject. And so
Speaker 1: I don't know I would have taken a chance on
Speaker 1: this player in the late first round. You know, just
Speaker 1: people I've talked to, they speak kylie of him as
Speaker 1: a person as football character, as personal character, his teammates
Speaker 1: while doing the drug. He was on the basically honor
Speaker 1: roll of school. I guess every everything that he did. Yes,
Speaker 1: the guy liked to party on the weekends. Give him
Speaker 1: credit for not bolting for the NFL when he was
Speaker 1: kicked out of the Big ten, he went down the
Speaker 1: level of the FCS, rebuilt his image, and you know
Speaker 1: here we are now where Yeah, well, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: there's some teams that, like I was saying, there's some
Speaker 1: teams that are just not too happy. This is the
Speaker 1: we're looking right now at Buck's war room. They might
Speaker 1: be happy. They're all shaking hands. They've they've obviously got
Speaker 1: somebody in mind. So Tampa is on the clock. And
Speaker 1: here's the commissioner with the pick, which would be pick
Speaker 1: number thirty. Now see Tampa Bay Buccaneer selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from LSU overall selection in the nineteen ninety nine draft
Speaker 1: by the Buccaneers defensive tackle Anthony McFarlane park. Thank you.
Speaker 1: This pick gives me great pleasure. With the thirty ninth
Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, my Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: selected Noah Spence line backwards. He's too cloud. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I mean, Noah Spence, I think to me, and then
Speaker 1: just looking at my board, there's some really good football
Speaker 1: players that come off this board in the last several picks.
Speaker 1: When you look at the Miles Jacks and the Noah Spences,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it reads like the top five. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know and again it's hey, it's it's their board,
Speaker 1: it's what they want to do. And uh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how these guys all play, especially
Speaker 1: Noah Spence. I think that he is. Uh. I thought
Speaker 1: he was the best pass rush in the draft. I know, Dane,
Speaker 1: talking to you and working with you all all this spring.
Speaker 1: We we've talked about maybe some issues of playing against
Speaker 1: the run, but uh, talk about him. It's not that
Speaker 1: he's terrible against the run. He's just he needs some
Speaker 1: work and he doesn't have the longest arms. He's not
Speaker 1: the strongest at the point of attack. But his specialty
Speaker 1: is getting after the passer and he does that pretty
Speaker 1: darn well. I thought he had a good week at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. And this is a player. Again, if
Speaker 1: not for the baggage, he's a top fifteen pick um.
Speaker 1: But at this point in the draft. Talk about tremendous value.
Speaker 1: Vernon Hargrave's in the first, Yeah, Noah spends in the second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's two darn good players right there for the Bucks.
Speaker 1: The best pass rusher in the draft never falls to
Speaker 1: forty Who I think? I mean, I know, I've gone
Speaker 1: on the ledge and said that I thought he was.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be great down there, and I'm, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not alone. I mean I am. I am totally
Speaker 1: okay with this guy. A matter of fact, Dallas gets
Speaker 1: to play him this year too, so you know, keep it,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that one as we as this materialized.
Speaker 1: But he starts off at Ohio State. You talk to
Speaker 1: people at Ohio State, they will tell you he is
Speaker 1: better than the player who was picked third overall last night.
Speaker 1: And we we have a lot of respect for Joey Bosa,
Speaker 1: but hey, that's what it is. Okay, the Giants are
Speaker 1: on the clock. It looks like they're picks in. They
Speaker 1: need to receive. Yeah, they a receiver here badly. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's run through the receivers. Michael Michael Thomas. We'd like shepherd,
Speaker 1: everybody's Shepherd. That'd be good opposite of ODB. Yeah Shepherd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we'll tell us or Michael Thomas or
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Okay, Shepherd, it's one of the better route runners.
Speaker 1: And tell you, okay, tell me about you, tell me
Speaker 1: about Thomas. And then and then Jeff, you tell me
Speaker 1: about Shepherd. I know, and this is I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a both guys that Jeff really likes a lot
Speaker 1: who used to be a former wide receiver in college. Right,
Speaker 1: one of Michael Thomas, one of the guy who gets
Speaker 1: separation has that size at six three, kind of herky
Speaker 1: jerky motion. Very good competitor, always gets open. It's one
Speaker 1: thing you notice all the time. And you can say
Speaker 1: the same thing, although he didn't have the same size
Speaker 1: as Thomas, you can say the same thing about Shepherd. Okay,
Speaker 1: quick thing, we're about Shepard. As they walked the card. Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just let him make the picks. See
Speaker 1: which one they got. Talk about you, But you think
Speaker 1: it's you think it's a wide receiver here right, all right?
Speaker 1: Giants got the selection in advantage. Please welcome from the
Speaker 1: University of Georgia. The twenty fourth overall select shit in
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety draft by the Giants running back Rodney
Speaker 1: him with the Friday period in two thy sixteen d
Speaker 1: I Lugo Giants lick Sterlets Shepherd. Oh god, here's this
Speaker 1: the part where Jeff quits this. Oh my god, take him.
Speaker 1: We talked about this is the board. It was. It
Speaker 1: was the board was set up for a run, and
Speaker 1: you know, you just had to had to be on
Speaker 1: the train. Nobody's nobody's trading out of these pits. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you've seen a couple of trades, Welcome Shepherd and
Speaker 1: welcome duckson to the NFC. Yeah, boys drafted a corner
Speaker 1: in a second so they can cover beam In. Shepherd
Speaker 1: Sterling one of my I tell you what, this guy's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players. Really. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you couldn't like him. In honestly, I was like to
Speaker 1: the party on Shepherd because I he was about my
Speaker 1: tenth wide receiver at the end of the season, and
Speaker 1: then watching him at the Senior Bowl, watching more on
Speaker 1: him throughout the process. I've got this guy too low.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, he's better than this guy. Right.
Speaker 1: It was in this guy and he was in a
Speaker 1: finished you know, when I finished my rankings in March.
Speaker 1: He was at my number five receiver in this draft. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a great pick for the Giants, and it definitely
Speaker 1: gives Eli another toy to play with. He does such
Speaker 1: a good job of playing with multiple speeds out there
Speaker 1: to tease defenders. Throw a defensive backs off throwing in
Speaker 1: the year. I have a quick Senior Bowl memory, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, that they do one of the squads practice
Speaker 1: at a field in this kind of town across the
Speaker 1: bridge over there and the Farrells raining. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was raining, and the field was not in really
Speaker 1: good shape. And we're sitting there on the sideline and
Speaker 1: starring Shepherd's flying all over the place. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I thought he was really good route runner. He can't
Speaker 1: even plan his foot and stick and will The field
Speaker 1: wasn't really bad shape. So like White discount that day
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl practice, and great pick for for
Speaker 1: the Giants there at forty and now the Bills are
Speaker 1: on the clock at forty one. Okay, picks in for
Speaker 1: the Bills quickly. There needs an outside linebacker rush. This
Speaker 1: was all going in inside linebacker quarterback. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: we talked about we still got a guys. Well, we got,
Speaker 1: we got like any linebacker. I mean we've maybe a
Speaker 1: linebacker here. I mean there's several lets. Yeah, another trade
Speaker 1: up here in Chicago. I've got a first round linebacker
Speaker 1: on my board. Still, if they're taking a linebacker, I'm
Speaker 1: taking Reggie Raglin here. If if, if I'm Reggie exactly,
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at them and they're saying inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: it's one of their team needs. And I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my board and I'm sitting there right now at forty one,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Reggie Raglin right here that Rex Ryan defense
Speaker 1: already had in Shack Lawson, Oh hey that Burton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: chan Gaylor is not going to get an offensive player
Speaker 1: here getting ready. It's gonna be all about But if
Speaker 1: if if, if I'm looking at their team needs, and
Speaker 1: I say inside linebacker being one of them, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking one of the best outside linebackers is on this
Speaker 1: He hits anything that moves, he's gonna come up and
Speaker 1: thump you. And he's a form tackler, explodes through his hips,
Speaker 1: through his target, and mean, he just he's violent and
Speaker 1: that's the way he plays the game, and that's the
Speaker 1: way he'll always play the game. Now, obviously questions about
Speaker 1: some on third down. What is he now? He's a
Speaker 1: rushing I mean he remember he was rushing now man,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's not what he does. Can he hold
Speaker 1: up in coverage now? I mean he'll stroke guys over
Speaker 1: the middle? Uh? You know he said he can draw
Speaker 1: play a little bit of his own, right. It's interesting
Speaker 1: if that's if that's where they're coming up to get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought Spence would have been a team for Buffalo.
Speaker 1: That would have made a lot of sense. A player
Speaker 1: for Buffalo, that would have made a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. You look at their needs. They
Speaker 1: do need linebacker help. Reggie Ragland from Alabama makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense assuming they've done their work and made
Speaker 1: sure that the uh, the hard issue is nothing that
Speaker 1: they see to be a long term issue. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the commissioner's making his way to the Podimos like he's
Speaker 1: got Bruce Smith in tow, and let's see what the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills do with pick. This would be number forty
Speaker 1: one in the second round Buffalo Bills selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech, the number one overall pick of the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five draft by the Bills two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine Hall of Fame inductee defensive band Bruce Smith. Now
Speaker 1: I'm saying place, but the first pick in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Reggie
Speaker 1: right there you go. Yeah, do you tell me you
Speaker 1: need an inside linebackers one of your team needs. And
Speaker 1: my guys sitting there in the first round, I'm taking
Speaker 1: him every single time. Reggie Raglan, no brainer. They're very fine. Uh,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, mic linebacker from the University of Alabama. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's some talk about him and some heart stuff and
Speaker 1: all that. I think the vibe you get not hard
Speaker 1: as a player, a heart as a medical condition. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge It wasn't a deal breaker that you're
Speaker 1: the hard issue. It's yeah, not ideal, but not a
Speaker 1: deal breaker. Baltimore up next on the cloud. Because there's
Speaker 1: been a few trades for right, this is the pick
Speaker 1: that originally started off in my AMMI. So this is
Speaker 1: pick number forty two. You know, as we as as
Speaker 1: we get going here. Sorry it's didn't me talk over there,
Speaker 1: but they addressed one of their team needs with Ronnie
Speaker 1: Stanley yesterday. Right, and then you start to think maybe
Speaker 1: cornerback might be an option for them. And I look
Speaker 1: back and I see McKenzie Alexander way up there on
Speaker 1: the board, still open. No one's chose him. And I mean,
Speaker 1: McKenzie Alexander is a guy who, you know, you started
Speaker 1: getting into the draft process, and when that was beginning,
Speaker 1: people were talking, Man, is this guy top ten picks?
Speaker 1: This guy top fifteen pick, you know, kind of in
Speaker 1: that area. And now you're sitting here like, dang, he's
Speaker 1: at forty one, right, So I just wondered, like, what
Speaker 1: are team thing that went wrong with him? Is that
Speaker 1: bad interviews? Is that? You know? Yeah? And I think
Speaker 1: the issue there what I heard was when teams put
Speaker 1: him on the white board and really started talking concepts
Speaker 1: and coverages with him. You know, he was all talk.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't really connect the dots, you know,
Speaker 1: like he want to. And so he really needs to
Speaker 1: be built up from the ground up in terms of
Speaker 1: his knowledge of coverage. And he's just going out there
Speaker 1: on athleticism right now. So a redshirt sophomore, you know,
Speaker 1: the personality, he kind of he follows the beat of
Speaker 1: his own drum. He's got a little Josh Norman to
Speaker 1: him in that respect, So I think that's been a
Speaker 1: turn off for some teams. But we're still talking about,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a first round player. So somewhere here
Speaker 1: in the mid second, whether it be a Baltimore or
Speaker 1: one of these other teams coming up, that they're gonna
Speaker 1: get a good player team needs for the Ravens coming
Speaker 1: in was outside linebacker, corner and an inside linebacker here. Uh,
Speaker 1: getting outside linebackers on your boards. You really like some
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know how the Ravens play defense.
Speaker 1: They will rush the heck out of rush. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a passer. Because you talk about Corre, Sucks and Duberville
Speaker 1: are both signed through twenty seventeen. Correa that right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well here it looks like the commissioner was gonna walk.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the picks up the talk about,
Speaker 1: oh we're gonna interview first talk about Korea though, if
Speaker 1: you would. I mean what you saw on him, the
Speaker 1: Ravens are there, get after your team. Now, this could
Speaker 1: be one of those titles. I like what you're saying
Speaker 1: right here. I you know Correa, what I've got on him?
Speaker 1: A guy that you can stand up outside, also puts
Speaker 1: his hand in the dirt as an end, I thought
Speaker 1: he was probably better standing up. But a guy that's
Speaker 1: got some of that burst, one of those guys six
Speaker 1: three two forty five. You know, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: mold that you see in college football now, the guys
Speaker 1: that are six three six for two forty five sort
Speaker 1: of that outside stand up right after the quarterback kind
Speaker 1: of guy. And he's one of those guys in this
Speaker 1: draft that we think is a second round sort of player. Well,
Speaker 1: that's uh, that would be very very ch any other
Speaker 1: guys you have in mind there? Yeah, the boys kid, right,
Speaker 1: you taught you taught state. I'm sorry, Boysey kid. If
Speaker 1: Day tries to get my guy to change positions one
Speaker 1: more time, oh he'll do that. Tyler Facrol is a
Speaker 1: really good football player, Sir. At his position, he's very good.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But no Korea. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a very quick footed athlete. He uh you know, had
Speaker 1: a great sophomore year. Stats fell off a little bit
Speaker 1: as a junior, but uh, teams need pass rush. You know,
Speaker 1: we saw the guys fly off the board in the
Speaker 1: early second round. Karrea is that next guy at least, uh,
Speaker 1: you know Corey in our ranking so right, it would
Speaker 1: make sense here. Yeah, well if you look at it
Speaker 1: that the teams are now kind of figuring this out
Speaker 1: as the guys that we've kind of had on our board. Uh,
Speaker 1: Korea was one of those guys. So so we have
Speaker 1: really a special guest right now joining us on the
Speaker 1: line is uh the Cowboys second round pick from the
Speaker 1: fighting Irish of Notre Dame, Jalen Smith. Jaalen, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Uh. We're very excited to have you here.
Speaker 1: All the guys here from Dallas Cowboys dot com. We're
Speaker 1: covering the draft. We're very happy to see your name
Speaker 1: being called though. It has to be a very exciting
Speaker 1: time for you right now. Absolutely, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: blessing from my name to be called so quick, you know,
Speaker 1: in the second round. A great organization, a great city.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the DNA part of the family. Jayleen.
Speaker 1: The first thing is just how are you feeling. I
Speaker 1: know nobody has any questions about Jalen Smith, the guy,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, the football player that we've seen on tape.
Speaker 1: How are you coming along? How are you feeling physically?
Speaker 1: I'm coming along great. I've been running for three and
Speaker 1: a half weeks. Now everything is just by GRASSI taking
Speaker 1: a day day by day. Were you surprised when you
Speaker 1: got the phone call or it's about the area that
Speaker 1: you thought a team might take a chance on you?
Speaker 1: For me, I wasn't worried about when I was going.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go. So the go early makes
Speaker 1: it that much better. Jeeland, I know it's hard to answer,
Speaker 1: but do you have a goal in mind for when
Speaker 1: you want to be on the field and start a
Speaker 1: game as soon as possible, as soon as possible? Is
Speaker 1: it just you know, doctor Cooper here to find the
Speaker 1: team doctor for the Cowboys did your surgery, so we
Speaker 1: know you're in great hands with that. Has he has
Speaker 1: he talked to you about any type of uh you know,
Speaker 1: I know, dangerous actual? But has there any timetable though
Speaker 1: in your mind for that? I mean, is we gotta
Speaker 1: take this whole we go take this whole year off
Speaker 1: and then think about going forward in twenty seventeen, you know,
Speaker 1: for me headed to Dallas, I'm gonna put you know,
Speaker 1: all of my trust into the team doctors, the team physicians,
Speaker 1: the whole medical staff, with all my trust in in them.
Speaker 1: Um I'm gonna work my that off and and whenever
Speaker 1: I'm cleared, and um, you know, I feel ready it.
Speaker 1: You know, we're definitely be back out there, uh at
Speaker 1: a dominant level. Well, Jaylen, talk to us about the
Speaker 1: interactions that you had with the guys in Dallas, with Jerry,
Speaker 1: with the coaches. Uh, how much did you talk to
Speaker 1: them in the pre draft process and and did you
Speaker 1: get the feeling? What did you like about them? What
Speaker 1: did they like about you? Just a perfect fit, you know,
Speaker 1: you know with my brother already playing there. Um, you
Speaker 1: know Ezekiels my boy. You know, we grew up playing together.
Speaker 1: So just a great older off fit. You know. I've
Speaker 1: always watched Dallas Cowboys, you know, considering that they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're the um, you know, America's team, So it's just
Speaker 1: an honor to be to be able to play for them. Well, Challen,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us here. We look
Speaker 1: forward to, uh to seeing you here in Dallas. We're
Speaker 1: very very happy for you as far as you're going
Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to play here. You're you're coming
Speaker 1: to a final organization, you said, and everybody here will
Speaker 1: take care of you and introbrace you, and everybody's excited
Speaker 1: because you're an outstanding football player. We look forward to
Speaker 1: seeing you on the field here as soon as possible. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. They thank here all right, thank
Speaker 1: you Jaylen Smith for the newly drafted by the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys second round pick. Okay, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: break right now. We come back. We got a couple
Speaker 1: of picks that have been made Baltimore. How to pick
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Speaker 1: all things NFL Draft. We'll go to the podium real quick.
Speaker 1: We could. It looks like the Open Raiders will announce
Speaker 1: their selection to a couple of things for us ladies
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Speaker 1: let's get on with business. Up to four to fourth
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and sixty NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Mighty Mighty mighty Open race. Select Jehan Board defensive end Illinois.
Speaker 1: Here we go, jehad Ward holding up the defensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're doing a nice job. Reggie McKenzie and those guys
Speaker 1: ly found a GM that it's a they can stick
Speaker 1: with for a long time and actually build something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got they got a coach. Jack Dorel does a
Speaker 1: nice job out there as well. So jehad Ward defensive
Speaker 1: end from Illinois. While we were on the while we
Speaker 1: were visiting with Jalen Smith, Austin Johnson went the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Penn State to Tennessee. Uh, Korea who we were
Speaker 1: talking about the linebacker from Boise State and in fact
Speaker 1: go to the Ravens. They're in Baltimore, so they get
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Uh that Uh. I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 1: I loved watching him on tape. So and then we
Speaker 1: talked about Baltimore taking Reggie Raglan there at forty one.
Speaker 1: So this would mean that, let's see, is Tennessee Tennessee
Speaker 1: back on the clock just a pick that they got
Speaker 1: from the from the Los Angeles Rams in a trade.
Speaker 1: Real quick about Ward? If you want to throw a
Speaker 1: thumbnail on him, if he could. Yeah, a player who's
Speaker 1: very raw and he's coming into his own played end
Speaker 1: uh for Illinois. But he's over three hundred pounds, so
Speaker 1: I think he fits what Oakland wants to do with
Speaker 1: their hybrid front three four man fronts complete inside, can
Speaker 1: play outside. So all he needs is coaching and the
Speaker 1: athleticism is there. I mean, you feel good about where
Speaker 1: Ward could be in a couple of years. Kat give
Speaker 1: me some Austin Johnson. Yeah, Johnson. And it's interesting that
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson does go ahead of you know, jarn Reid,
Speaker 1: Ashan Robinson and something's going on there, but it plays
Speaker 1: the one tech mostly and just what I saw was
Speaker 1: just a lot of agility and quickness for a three
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pound guy. Now, we thought he
Speaker 1: didn't shine at the Senior Bowl, which kind of concerned everyone.
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys I was really looking
Speaker 1: forward to watching at the Senior Bowl. He didn't really
Speaker 1: flash as much as you would like to see. But still,
Speaker 1: you know, the tape was better though, right, tape was
Speaker 1: a lot better. Yeah. At Penn State for him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gets some really good competition as well. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting now he goes at forty three and Tennessee on
Speaker 1: the clock now at forty five with those two picks
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about for a long time that
Speaker 1: were the Rams picks and we were hypothetically doing Cowboys
Speaker 1: trade down options Noah a month ago. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And I'm a big fan of of Austin Johnson. He
Speaker 1: was one of those guys when we first were starting
Speaker 1: to do We're breaking down. Austin Johnson was like the
Speaker 1: bottom of the first round maybe, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you start moving around a little bit, so
Speaker 1: maybe you know it's it's it's tough, Like the evaluation
Speaker 1: is so interesting because Austin Johnson is one of those
Speaker 1: guys when we first watched him, really really loved him,
Speaker 1: went to the Senior Bowl and saw less than we
Speaker 1: expected out of him. But then you go back to
Speaker 1: your notes and the games that the notes are on.
Speaker 1: It's Ohio State, it's Michigan State, and the notes is
Speaker 1: about fighting single and double teams and sort of dominating
Speaker 1: Ohio State Center and finding ways to crash to the ball.
Speaker 1: And that's a pretty darn good football player. You know,
Speaker 1: my memories of the Senior Bowl comes into the disappointment.
Speaker 1: But then you go back and look at notes and
Speaker 1: you remember, man, I really really liked the tape on
Speaker 1: that guy. Well, this is U with Austin Johnson. You know,
Speaker 1: I think the production matches the tape. Rarely do defensive
Speaker 1: tackles interior players finished top three on the team and tackles.
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson did last year or seventy eight tackles, and
Speaker 1: I think that match is what it showed on tape.
Speaker 1: Very productive, not rangey. The motor is always going. He
Speaker 1: moves well in short areas. Hands yeah, exactly. He create
Speaker 1: movement with his hands. So again, a player with a
Speaker 1: production matches the tape. Okay, the Tennessee Titans were on
Speaker 1: the clock. It looks like their pick is in. This
Speaker 1: is second round action. We're talking about pick number forty five,
Speaker 1: defensive line, defensive back, wide receiver. Wellb I mean they
Speaker 1: could go to me. They got a lot of picks.
Speaker 1: Could they go best available player? Could could Who would
Speaker 1: that be? Is that Michael Thomas? Is that the defensive tackle?
Speaker 1: Is it billings Back? See, That's what I mean. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but so many picks And I've sat in war rooms before,
Speaker 1: h and and and all of a sudden you're like,
Speaker 1: you're so you know, You're like, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of picks. Who's the best player on that board? And
Speaker 1: you're sitting there at forty five and you're thinking about, Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe why is that guy still there? So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe of guys from me we talked
Speaker 1: about you said, billings Read, I can't talk about Bullard
Speaker 1: talk about why? I mean some offensive help. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: And I mean they may have had to pick up
Speaker 1: in the off season. Yeah, with a running back DeMarco.
Speaker 1: They added DeMarco. They've gone running back early before with
Speaker 1: Bishop Sankey. They they it's funny because they've done things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've done things by committee before. Right, Okay, we've we've
Speaker 1: said about We've talked about Dixon, We've talked about Booker,
Speaker 1: We've talked about Procise, We've i mean, you include Henry
Speaker 1: and this stuff. That's what I was kind of getting at.
Speaker 1: I mean, could Derrick Henry be in this conversation, you
Speaker 1: know you he wouldn't hurt you to take some miles
Speaker 1: off DeMarco Murray and not making him have you know,
Speaker 1: a ton of carries. Yeah, I've kind of thought of
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry as a third round guy, but maybe somebody
Speaker 1: would take him as a second round player. I'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: You're essentially writing off Bishop Sanky, aren't you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm writing off Sanky. You're writing off and you would
Speaker 1: be telling there're going two guys, DeMarco and whoever you
Speaker 1: pick here. If you pick a guy, there's a new
Speaker 1: general manager obviously in tendency, John Robinson, first year here
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. So Bishop Sanky he's he's the other regimes pick.
Speaker 1: So he's got no ties to him this. You know,
Speaker 1: John Robinson, he went out and he picked he got
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray. He stole DeMarco Murray from the Eagles. But
Speaker 1: you know, DeMarco Murray also had his struggles last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, can you really really I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: Murray's a good player, but can you rely on him
Speaker 1: fully going into next year? I mean just throwing out there,
Speaker 1: Marco Murry is a really good football player. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: day yeah. Uh man, they would be uh grabbed and pound,
Speaker 1: you know, Henry and Murray. What does that do to help?
Speaker 1: What if they do take a remback? We named all
Speaker 1: those guys we talked about Henry. Does Henry help what
Speaker 1: they're doing? I mean, it's got to help the young gure.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why you got DeMarco Murray because he
Speaker 1: can he can run, he could blitz, pick up, he
Speaker 1: can catch. I mean, does Henry help a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially prosise help a young quarterback young quarterback that didn't
Speaker 1: play you know, the entire season last year year because
Speaker 1: of injury too. It may maybe helps him. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't have to drop back, you know, thirty forty
Speaker 1: times again, Let's keep him on his feet this year
Speaker 1: and build up that offensive line. A little bit. Getting
Speaker 1: a guy running back, you know, a couple of running
Speaker 1: backs that you can give the ball to, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty forty times a game makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Not a bad idea. After you've already put Conklin in
Speaker 1: there to play with Taylor the Wan. You've got a
Speaker 1: couple of road graders there, and as the Utah player
Speaker 1: they drafted, as we last year. As we look into
Speaker 1: the uh the Titans war room, Mike Mularkey is on
Speaker 1: the phone. Uh so he's uh that they say the
Speaker 1: pick is in. I'm sure the commissioner will be walking
Speaker 1: to the podium with the pick. Here shortly you mentioned Henry.
Speaker 1: Let's keep Booker and and here I mean I like
Speaker 1: the idea. I like the idea about a running back
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, uh, here we go, get curses gonna
Speaker 1: work out here. He's gonna go up there and get
Speaker 1: to make a pick. He hadn't need the commission the
Speaker 1: sixteen l draft, the Tennessee Titans choose Derek Henry running back.
Speaker 1: We go game Burglar. Nice job, that's interesting. There you go.
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting interesting is the word I'll
Speaker 1: go with two? I would I wouldn't have assumed you
Speaker 1: would use a top fifty pick on the back when
Speaker 1: you just brought in de Marco. I thought DeMarco would
Speaker 1: be getting the ball. What's what's right now? Let's what's
Speaker 1: the argument? You use it for the Cowboys. But they
Speaker 1: got two backs and they drafted a guy four overall
Speaker 1: themselves as a running back. Neither one of those guys
Speaker 1: is making DeMarco Murray money. Yeah, you've got You've got
Speaker 1: a big money back there, and now you're bringing in another.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is what the load. Maybe this is for
Speaker 1: one year for DeMarco Murray. You know, maybe this maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe DeMarco Murray is going to be the bridge at
Speaker 1: so interesting pick game. Burglar was all over at best
Speaker 1: available player. They want to go power. Oh sure they do.
Speaker 1: They want to go power. They went offensive line with
Speaker 1: Conklin over Tunsil. They want power up front. This fits
Speaker 1: that m O. Yeah, okay, Detroit Lions are on the
Speaker 1: clock right now. We look at the Lions offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Going in offensive tackle was a need defensive end in
Speaker 1: tior defensive linemen, so we had defensive end in tier
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Tackle was addressed. You think, right here, we've
Speaker 1: got it. Alma. We got a bunch of Alabama cats
Speaker 1: sitting on this board. Keep the Alabama trend going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody tell me a little bit about about Reid. Somebody
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about Jaron Reid. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. The middle of the Abama defensive line. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can go with both of them. I mean I've
Speaker 1: heard I've heard Dame talk about a Shawan Robinson and
Speaker 1: some of things he likes about him. So I'll let
Speaker 1: him to do him in a second. But yeah, Jaron Reid,
Speaker 1: I think to me, he's just he's so strong. He
Speaker 1: is a refrigerator in the middle of the field and
Speaker 1: watching him. The thing that actually jumped out to me
Speaker 1: about Jaron Reid is to be that big, strong, sort
Speaker 1: of nose tackle. Yet the number of times that I
Speaker 1: see him knocking a running back out of bounds on
Speaker 1: the sideline six or seven yards down there, I was like,
Speaker 1: where did that big guy come? Yeah, but they got
Speaker 1: two of them. Abama, you got Read and you got
Speaker 1: a Shan. Yeah. Let me be a little bit about
Speaker 1: a Shawn Robertson there. Dame Burglar guy that looks like
Speaker 1: he's forty years old, and he was nicknamed the man child. Yea,
Speaker 1: his mom growing up because his mom had to take
Speaker 1: the birth certificate everywhere they went. Yeah, but this is
Speaker 1: a good player. Well, here's Detroit's pick. Let's see who
Speaker 1: in fact it is. We'll get the commission pot. Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions selection. Please welcome from the University of Virginia. The
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick in the nineteen one draft by the
Speaker 1: Lions wide receiver Herman Moore. Hey, Hermi moorehun twenty two Castle,
Speaker 1: make you feel old on it? Yeah, they can still play.
Speaker 1: The twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions selected a
Speaker 1: Shawan Robinson had Away boys. Nice job. Yeah, hey, that
Speaker 1: big boy guy. He doesn't look forty. He looks thirty
Speaker 1: eight and a half. Thirty eight. Yeah no, And he's
Speaker 1: kind of the poster boy for the scouting motto traits overproduction. Right,
Speaker 1: So the stats don't look great. He didn't always show up,
Speaker 1: but the traits are there. What you want from a
Speaker 1: player like this, uh, you know, six four or three
Speaker 1: oh seven? Uh he and you have to look at
Speaker 1: what he was asked to do it Alabama. He was
Speaker 1: asked to clog things up, you know exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: two gap and beat that type of player, and unselfishly
Speaker 1: he did that just fine. So I think this is
Speaker 1: a player that fits even fronts. He fits odd fronts. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's going to Detroit, so they'll be in a four
Speaker 1: man front. Strengthened that defensive line. Yeah, well again, that's
Speaker 1: a I think if the one thing that I kind
Speaker 1: of did not like Abama, I think he plays a
Speaker 1: little tall sometimes. You know, he gets up out of
Speaker 1: his stance and for a big man, you know, he
Speaker 1: he could get moved a little bit because he does
Speaker 1: tend to play tall. They're gonna have forty. You gotta extend,
Speaker 1: You're gonna stretch it out, Gotta get those pads down there,
Speaker 1: young fellow, they're gonna take you for some rides in
Speaker 1: uh here in the National Football Like okay, New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints are now on the clock. We uh. The Saints
Speaker 1: addressed one of their needs defensive lineman last night with
Speaker 1: a rankings. We all love the rankings. Pick guard, quarterback,
Speaker 1: safety would be some of the remaining needs. Uh. If
Speaker 1: we think about the about the Saints guard, quarterback, safety, corner,
Speaker 1: wide receiver line. A lot of holes there over in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Yeah, I'm gonna thought a couple of names. Okay,
Speaker 1: had a couple of names. Defense. You said, cornerback mckensey.
Speaker 1: Alexander is still there, Okay, he said, safety. I believe
Speaker 1: Von Bell still there. He is still there. And then
Speaker 1: we do talk about a wide receiver. They're kind of
Speaker 1: look for that big wide receiver to kind of go,
Speaker 1: and there's there, there's Michael Thomas. I like Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: Some names out there. Preach, preach all right. Then he scout,
Speaker 1: he threw it. He threw a name at you. Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: talk to me about it. I like the fit because they,
Speaker 1: just like Hayti said, they are looking for that Marquise
Speaker 1: Colston type of receiver, a big player, possession guy. And
Speaker 1: that's what Michael Thomas is. He's not a burner, but
Speaker 1: he is a detailed route runner and he does get open,
Speaker 1: create some room to work. He could do some damage.
Speaker 1: Move the chains. Be your red zone target for Drew
Speaker 1: Brees down in New Orleans. So I do I do
Speaker 1: like the fit here. If that is indeed the direction
Speaker 1: Saint side to go, can we throw out one hundred
Speaker 1: different names? I want you to talk because you're kind
Speaker 1: of my wide receiver expert Okay, how you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted the greatest wide receiver in the history of
Speaker 1: Abelin Christ was an official statistic. Katie talked about him, though.
Speaker 1: Dane gave you a nice little thumbnail though, first round
Speaker 1: player for you right here they're getting potentially forty seven.
Speaker 1: It was for me. He was for me. I like
Speaker 1: big receiver. I like I mean, I like the size um.
Speaker 1: I really like the way that he runs routes because
Speaker 1: I think for a bigger guy, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: all over the place. I think that herky jerkiness, it's
Speaker 1: so it's so hard to predict what he's gonna do.
Speaker 1: I think he sets up corners really well with that.
Speaker 1: To me, it was almost a little bit of the
Speaker 1: same field that you had with Michael Crabtree was at
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, a guy who's a full size receiver. But
Speaker 1: the route running there's a there's an explosiveness and there's
Speaker 1: an unpredictability, and it just they know how to set
Speaker 1: you up and they know how to get some separation.
Speaker 1: And I think with Michael Thomas there's some after after
Speaker 1: the catchability there too. I think you see a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. I think there's there's enough speed. I
Speaker 1: think I think Michael Thomas is a really good player.
Speaker 1: So the guys that Kat brought up there, it is
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas the guy that we seem to to cove
Speaker 1: it at this point in time. We know the Saints
Speaker 1: love big receiver. We've seen them play and they got
Speaker 1: some small but you know, Colston's a guy that they're
Speaker 1: you know, moving on for. But this guy, this guy's
Speaker 1: got some got some juice to him. I think when
Speaker 1: you talk about Michael Thomas a little bit, so it
Speaker 1: does and a good player, and you guys mentioned the
Speaker 1: Hercy jerky, but he knows exactly what he's doing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like it's out of control. He's he's detailed.
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing in those routes to get open.
Speaker 1: So we have to mention, you know, nephew Keyshawn Johnson
Speaker 1: obviously has some bloodlines there. And this is a player
Speaker 1: who struggled to adapt to the playbook when he arrived
Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and that's I think that's why he's
Speaker 1: still on the board here at forty seven. Um. There
Speaker 1: are some questions about how long it'll take for him
Speaker 1: to adapt to the pro game. You might not be
Speaker 1: an instant success in the NFL. There might be a
Speaker 1: learning curve, so that is something to keep in mind
Speaker 1: as well. But obviously that New Orleans offense very passer friendly.
Speaker 1: In those Drew Brees is the perfect guy to help
Speaker 1: you adapt to the pro game and be introduced to
Speaker 1: some pro concepts. Drew Brees can get Benjamin Watson like
Speaker 1: forty thousand yards. Frew Brees can make it work for you. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go the last, the last four of the last.
Speaker 1: Give me the last five picks that we could go a.
Speaker 1: Shawn Robinson went to Detroit Lions at two forty six,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry went to Tennessee at two forty five. Jahad
Speaker 1: Ward went to the Oakland Raiders at two forty four.
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, the defensive tackle from Penn State, went to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans at two forty three. And and that's
Speaker 1: just where we're at siding out. We're waiting for the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. It looks like to me their pick
Speaker 1: is in. This is pick again. Two forty seven recap
Speaker 1: Top five available on my board. McKenzie Alexander at the
Speaker 1: corner from Clemson, Jaron Reid Alabama defensive tackle, Cody Whitehair,
Speaker 1: the interior offensive lineman from Kansas State, Jonathan Older at
Speaker 1: the defensive end, this guy's gonna be a steal and
Speaker 1: then five would be Andrew Billings and Baylor defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: So still good players left on the board. Six and
Speaker 1: six would be Michael Thomas. I've got I've got two
Speaker 1: first round names left on my board, and that's Billings
Speaker 1: and read both those one techniques. So we'll see how
Speaker 1: that all plays out. How about you, guys, anybody that
Speaker 1: particular just jumping out at you right now? The only
Speaker 1: ones I've got left is Andrew Billings, Jaron Reid, and
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas, I'm sorry, I forgot Michael left.
Speaker 1: That's right. And for New Orleans, I think that one
Speaker 1: just looking at what their team needs that kind of
Speaker 1: jumps off the page at you, is the right guy
Speaker 1: to pick. Yeah, okay, well we will see, so just
Speaker 1: do that New Orleans. Don't do anything different. Pick the
Speaker 1: right guy. Everybody just picked the right guy. They'll need
Speaker 1: to build that defense up a little bit. But yes,
Speaker 1: is what you're saying. They're running through a lot of
Speaker 1: names right now that I would love to have on
Speaker 1: my football team. By the way you went through those
Speaker 1: last five names, right, and the depth of this draft
Speaker 1: and the level of player that is still out there,
Speaker 1: that it is a whole good at this point in
Speaker 1: the draft. I think there's a lot of outrage in general.
Speaker 1: What do you think the fan base thinks of the
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith pick? Real quick, dude, we are talking about
Speaker 1: these good names, and you think, man, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys I'd like to have on my team.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay, So I think it's not. I
Speaker 1: think it's important to note because I'll start with I
Speaker 1: was stunned for about the next half hour, stunned that
Speaker 1: it was Jalen Smith and not Miles Jack or any
Speaker 1: of these guys that I'm still going off the board
Speaker 1: that I would love to buy my team tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: I think it is. It's just so important to note
Speaker 1: that this team knows as much or more than anybody
Speaker 1: about what's going on. So when Dane says that a
Speaker 1: team a team told somebody that they think a certain percentage,
Speaker 1: this team probably has the best idea. Yeah, well here
Speaker 1: we go. The Saints selection, in fact, is in the
Speaker 1: commissioner's walk in the pody. Let's see if it is
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, who we all think it might be. Please
Speaker 1: welcome from the University of Mississippi. The pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and one draft by the Saints, running back
Speaker 1: Deuce Callister picks juice, We're not fullback, right, hook you
Speaker 1: guys on, Will Smith, We love you. Nice, well done.
Speaker 1: With the forty seventh pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints select Michael Thomas, white receiver. Nice boys,
Speaker 1: Come on, who's next? Yeah? Who's next? Be an easy one?
Speaker 1: Is another easy one? Well, they're coming off the board,
Speaker 1: and that's h And that's the great thing about putting
Speaker 1: together a board like a Dane Burglar and then Jeff
Speaker 1: and I Katie five three. It's pretty easy. When you
Speaker 1: have your board set up and you know the team
Speaker 1: seem to be kind of going down the line, it
Speaker 1: looks like, yeah, it looks like another trade. Am I right, Dane?
Speaker 1: Is this Green Bay Thompson moving up in the Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: Teddy Thompson, exactly right. Well, we got a resident packer,
Speaker 1: we got an owner. We got an owner with us
Speaker 1: tonight for the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, it's so much
Speaker 1: more like a family thing. Well, we got an owner
Speaker 1: cowboy again. So let's talk about this though. If Green
Speaker 1: Bay in fact is on the clock and we think
Speaker 1: that maybe this is a trade that belonged to the Colts,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hearing some things that maybe that it
Speaker 1: might be the packers in fact on the clock. So
Speaker 1: but let's talk k Yeah, it is, in fact, the
Speaker 1: pick is in for green Bay. Kat give us a
Speaker 1: little green Bay Packer thought right now if we could.
Speaker 1: I mean, their whole whole goal was to move Clay
Speaker 1: Matthew's back outside so inside linebacker or something, and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of interest in Reggie Raggle, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought, right, you know, this is the
Speaker 1: type of thing. And knowing that Teddy Thompson likes the
Speaker 1: I think it's too early, like a Pac ten type guy.
Speaker 1: I always think they took Kenny Clark, the Frogman from
Speaker 1: UCLA and around one like like a guy, and I
Speaker 1: think it's too early for him. But I like Blake
Speaker 1: Martinez from Stafford or something, would not surprise me with
Speaker 1: Teddy Thompson in the way they seem to always pick
Speaker 1: pack ten guys but honestly, the trading up is something
Speaker 1: Green Bay doesn't do very much. No, it's always interesting
Speaker 1: when Teddy Thompson's in the market and making some moves.
Speaker 1: I did some shows. I did some shows this week
Speaker 1: with them, and they took they took Clark uh in yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe that they would look at Billings
Speaker 1: or thought maybe they look with b J. Rogie and
Speaker 1: Dane even brought that point up. Uh. You know, let's
Speaker 1: look at the Packers and what their needs is. They
Speaker 1: drafted Kenny Clark in the first round, right, did they
Speaker 1: double up one? Maybe the front seven? I mean they
Speaker 1: might hit Clark at ends. Yeah, here comes Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I think you move these guys around, Mike Daniels,
Speaker 1: Billings and Kenny Clark. Well, there's any outside linebacker, it
Speaker 1: might be factul. This might be an outside linebacker. To
Speaker 1: announce the Green Bay Packers selection, please welcome from Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: Selected in the third round of the nineteen ninety five
Speaker 1: draft by the Packers wide receiver Antonio Freeman, the Duck
Speaker 1: Chicago Loves Packers only in Chicago. With the pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers select Jason Spriggs Indiana. Here we go, Teddy Thompson,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Owner? You got yourself
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle? Yeah, I mean I don't really care
Speaker 1: about the things too much, to be honest, but you
Speaker 1: have more worded with the Cowboys go. But they did
Speaker 1: have a lot of depth that hues. Yeah, on their
Speaker 1: offensive line last year they were they were running out
Speaker 1: spare parts to finish here in Jason Spriggs makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. You know, there was there was talking
Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs. You know maybe someone late in the first
Speaker 1: round would take absolutely. Yeah, Seattle took Effetti and uh
Speaker 1: they're one of the names that flew off the board.
Speaker 1: But uh, Springs Spriggs is the next tackle on my board,
Speaker 1: I believe, And that makes a lot of sense right there.
Speaker 1: I thought Spriggs to me was more of an athletic guy,
Speaker 1: more of a quick on his feet sort of athletic
Speaker 1: guy than he was a power guy. Um, what do
Speaker 1: we have him as a sort of a third round
Speaker 1: picks You're probably in the right area. This was the
Speaker 1: next tackle that I think we had on our board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was when Tunsil, Conklin, Stanley, and deck Are all
Speaker 1: went that was gonna be the next one to go off,
Speaker 1: and that's a third round player right there. But the
Speaker 1: guy that the Packers picked at two forty eight felt
Speaker 1: like they had to go up to the Colt spot
Speaker 1: and grab this guy. Maybe maybe they felt like that.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a big drop off there if
Speaker 1: you look at from say the third the second or
Speaker 1: third round tackers down to where those you know, the
Speaker 1: Kyle Murphy's, the Robertson Clark, Yeah, all those guys. So
Speaker 1: there is a definitely a huge drop off in Spriggs.
Speaker 1: I gave him a solid second grade, and I think
Speaker 1: he goes right there in the middle of the second
Speaker 1: I think it fits. It's yeah, it's a good value
Speaker 1: for the for the Packers, and they moved up, you
Speaker 1: know what, almost ten spots to go get him. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break right now. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we'll have some more of the second round
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Speaker 1: coverage for the eighty first NFL Draft. Seattle has obtained
Speaker 1: this pick, the forty ninth pick. It did belong to Chicago,
Speaker 1: It now belongs to the Seattle Seahawks. My old intern
Speaker 1: John Snyder up there making some picks. He traded up
Speaker 1: here to pick his end. The first thing that came
Speaker 1: to my mind was Jaron Reid did it because they
Speaker 1: need to replace Brandon Mebane. They need to rebuild that
Speaker 1: defensive line. They need to rebuild both lines. They did
Speaker 1: so in the first round, which Romaine Fetti. So either
Speaker 1: Cody white Hair to help on that offensive line. Jaron
Speaker 1: Reid gives you that note. They went to tackle last
Speaker 1: night late right offensive tackle that is right, and they
Speaker 1: need a nose tackle to replace Mebane. So you could
Speaker 1: see it. Jeff talk about Jaron Reid a little bit,
Speaker 1: what you saw of him. You know, I just we
Speaker 1: talked about him a little while ago. Jaron Reid is
Speaker 1: he's one of the ultimate. That guy is a refrigerator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't move him. Yeah, He's just a guy that
Speaker 1: is just so hard to move. You can use one
Speaker 1: guy you can use two guys. You can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want. Jaren Reid is going to be where jarn
Speaker 1: Reid is going to be. And sometimes even flashes the
Speaker 1: ability to push a pocket or get you a little
Speaker 1: bit of a pass rush. But mostly I think he's
Speaker 1: just he's a great anchor that the motor never stops.
Speaker 1: That you see a three hundred plus pounder going sideline
Speaker 1: to sideline chasing down running backs. The guy works. You
Speaker 1: mentioned that motor, and he is the guy that led
Speaker 1: to Alabama defensive line of tackles the last two years.
Speaker 1: Not Robinson hcase. He wrapped up ten of him over
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. So well, exactly speaks to that motor
Speaker 1: that you know this three hundred plus pounders moving and
Speaker 1: not only and that's not only a motor thing, but
Speaker 1: it's an instinct thing. He's able to track the ball
Speaker 1: and anticipate where that run is going, so that those
Speaker 1: tackle numbers matches Jaren Reid. Last man standing in the
Speaker 1: war room, Yeah, in the green room up Chicago is Well,
Speaker 1: let's see if his weight is over Kent Garrison. Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks are at the body who's gonna ghost to announced
Speaker 1: see Seattle Seahawks selection. Please welcome from the University of Alabama.
Speaker 1: Selected nineteenth overall and the two thousand Seahawks running back
Speaker 1: Sean Alexander is still gonna den SMI. That's one of
Speaker 1: the picks that the Cowboys that we gave up for
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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks selection is Andrew Woodruff. Andrew, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what a great thrial for that kid. Whoa. Andrew is
Speaker 1: thirteen years old and undergoing treatment for bone cancer at
Speaker 1: Saint Jude, but that does not stop him from being
Speaker 1: an active Andrew is a big Seahawks fan. He's from
Speaker 1: the great state of Washington. Andrew finished the game with
Speaker 1: the forty nine pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Jarraff,
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks select Jaren Reid. There you go, Alabama,
Speaker 1: There you go, Jaron Reid. Last man standing in the
Speaker 1: green room is Kat gave you a little scouting report there.
Speaker 1: Who's the next one? We gotta knock down their pick? Correct?
Speaker 1: I got a good feeling on this. I'm gonna jump
Speaker 1: out to Atlanta and Atlanta had a need at safety
Speaker 1: that they covered in Round one with Keanu nil. Okay,
Speaker 1: I look at offensive line with him. I know that
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, you know, a defensive coach. I totally get that.
Speaker 1: But I think I want to throw out white hair.
Speaker 1: Let's go white white hair or play right here. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm That's where I'm just predicting. Okay. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: linebacker is an area of need as well, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything there. Like Reggie Raglan would
Speaker 1: have been a guy they might have been interested in guy.
Speaker 1: I thought they might have been interested in the first
Speaker 1: round and when they shocked everyone and took Keian O'Neil.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go out on a lamb here and say,
Speaker 1: Cody white Hair, Christian Westerman, couple of guards right here? Uh?
Speaker 1: For the Falcons. I don't know how much they need
Speaker 1: d line, but I'm just gonna say Andrew Billings until
Speaker 1: he gets picked because I like him. Andrew Billings every
Speaker 1: pick until he does. You think on deck at fifty one,
Speaker 1: you think Todd Bowles will take Andrew Billing he goes.
Speaker 1: That'll make a lot of sense. Sure, let's go well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this then a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: you're saying with the with the Falcons that uh that
Speaker 1: they could you feel like it's gonna be all about
Speaker 1: the defense though, right? Is that? Everybody? Well? I mean no,
Speaker 1: I well you said white hair, but you really feel
Speaker 1: like defense here? No, I think I think white hare.
Speaker 1: That's my pick. Here go white. I'm sorry I was offense,
Speaker 1: but I think you know you think about dan Quinn though,
Speaker 1: you know, well, it looks like it looks like up wait,
Speaker 1: it looks like Houston's got this pick now two fifty okay,
Speaker 1: two okay, well Houston, Houston's got it here. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the pick's gonna go in. So let's see what's going
Speaker 1: on here with this is this makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: From Billings up in front of the Houston jumped up
Speaker 1: in from Hackenburg. Oh well, let's see. Let's let's go
Speaker 1: for Let's go for a little bit some names. Shocker,
Speaker 1: let's go with a little bit every pick. Okay, A
Speaker 1: tier defensive line wide receiver, which they addressed last night, guard, center,
Speaker 1: tackle combination. So I mean, think about that white hair, Martin, Martin, Martin,
Speaker 1: white hair. You want somebody who can somebody somebody flipped
Speaker 1: me real quick. You give me white hair, you give
Speaker 1: me Martin. Okay, all right, and let's go for it.
Speaker 1: White white Hair's Zach Martin light, I mean a college
Speaker 1: left tackle. You're not allowed to use a Martin name
Speaker 1: because I got Martin next. You can't use him. He's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys left guard or right guard's uh, he's a
Speaker 1: light version of that because he's excellent at staying balanced,
Speaker 1: staying square to rushers. He doesn't have the length to
Speaker 1: stay outside at tackle. He's gonna move inside guard or center.
Speaker 1: This is a you know, a try hard guy, competitive kid.
Speaker 1: I'm I mean it's a steel try hard Huh. That's
Speaker 1: who he is a bit better than try hard. Don't
Speaker 1: you think try hard guys such an insult. He's not
Speaker 1: an insult because that's who he is. He gives you
Speaker 1: everything he has out there. All right, I got you
Speaker 1: you feeling okay? Now you got it? Go ahead. Nick
Speaker 1: Martin's a real try hard guy. No, Nick uh you know.
Speaker 1: Watching Nick Martin, the thing that jumped out is, of
Speaker 1: course he's the little brother of the cowboys Zach Martin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's not his brother. He doesn't have the power
Speaker 1: that Zack Martin has to move guys right, But as
Speaker 1: far as from the center spot, being able to make
Speaker 1: reach blocks, being able to stay in the way, being
Speaker 1: able to be assignment sound, everything about him I think
Speaker 1: is technically very good. The only thing I thought he
Speaker 1: was lacking was just an ability to sort of get
Speaker 1: a push on guys, to be as strong as his
Speaker 1: brother is. But I think he's a good help walker.
Speaker 1: He's pretty smooth and pass protection, really good getting the
Speaker 1: way kind of guy. And I don't mean that is
Speaker 1: an insult. I just mean not. I think you're right
Speaker 1: about you off them. Yeah. I think he's right though
Speaker 1: about the power. I mean, it's a getting away, it's
Speaker 1: not really gonna He's not his brother. Brother's got that
Speaker 1: core strength, that strength. Yeah, I think you're both right there.
Speaker 1: He's not his brother, But like his brother. I think
Speaker 1: he also was versatility center. He can play any of
Speaker 1: those three interior line spots. Yeah, now that we've said
Speaker 1: so much about two guys, they better pick one of them. Well, Kat,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on it. We now we all
Speaker 1: know about buildings, We all understand what Billings is. I
Speaker 1: mean he could be and we may talk about him
Speaker 1: in a minute. Yeah, we may talk about him in
Speaker 1: a minute. But let me let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: between between white Hair and Martin, which way you going
Speaker 1: on our board? We had white Hair in the second round,
Speaker 1: we had Martin in the third round. White Hair does
Speaker 1: play with a little bit of nastiness and a little
Speaker 1: more strength than Martin. But Martin, he saw a guy
Speaker 1: who understood how not to get beat, which is not
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it's he's not gonna plow anyone
Speaker 1: over very often. And I just to me, you know,
Speaker 1: white Hair is the better player, but you know some
Speaker 1: teams may you know, I assuming teams are gonna play
Speaker 1: a white Hair at guard. I mean he played some
Speaker 1: tackle in college, but I'm assuming teams look at him
Speaker 1: as a guard. Uh So, you know, Nick Christian Westerman
Speaker 1: would make some sense as well, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: if they want a guard. But you talked about the
Speaker 1: flexibility of the versatility to play all three positions, Nick
Speaker 1: Martin does make a lot of sense. I still think
Speaker 1: if they need the line help though, Andrew Billings makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. So in my seventh round walk
Speaker 1: I had Martin going to the to the Texans. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good fit. In your seven round
Speaker 1: Mark you had it, yeah, and I thought that the
Speaker 1: one you scrapped three times on the way to the
Speaker 1: I don't want to which one did you have Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith going thirty four? Which that was the one I'm
Speaker 1: doing to night. No, but Martin, I think fits Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien's offense. Um, but so does white Hair and you
Speaker 1: I think either one of you, who's the tougher of
Speaker 1: the guy? Who would you say that is the mean
Speaker 1: tough guy in terms of aggressive you know, a guy
Speaker 1: I would go the other way? Would you go Martin? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: and I think but when they were asked what they
Speaker 1: were asked to do, and white Hair is more because
Speaker 1: we saw him a left tackle, you know, so he
Speaker 1: wasn't the aggressor a lot of times where Martin as
Speaker 1: on the interior was more the aggressor. So not that
Speaker 1: white Hair soft but or you know, I'm not we're
Speaker 1: not saying that. But so white Hair is a soft
Speaker 1: guy to you, basically is what I just But I
Speaker 1: think softer than Ronnie Stanley. Nastier in power powerful though,
Speaker 1: Like let's say, is there a difference in that, like
Speaker 1: it was the more powerful player. I would say, but
Speaker 1: you guys think it's do you think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: an You think it's gonna be an interior offensive line? Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see there. I'm like that. But I
Speaker 1: Texans jumped up in front of the Jets. They moved
Speaker 1: up two spots to get in front of the Jets. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna pick pick one ninety five, which is
Speaker 1: a six round pick now belongs to the Atlanta Falcon.
Speaker 1: And here's the commissioner walking into every pick fifty one
Speaker 1: the Jets to announce THEE. Houston Texans selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from the University of Louisville, the tenth overall pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven draft by the Texans defensive
Speaker 1: tackle of mobi Ya Koyer. Yeah, long history of players there.
Speaker 1: Houston's okay, Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, thank you, thank you. First,
Speaker 1: I want to send my uncle dolesist all the flawed
Speaker 1: victims in Houston. Uh, you know, everybody knows we've been
Speaker 1: going through a lot over there, and uh, keep up,
Speaker 1: keep keep up. If everyone running in prayers, because um,
Speaker 1: we're going through a lot, and so just keep on
Speaker 1: praying for us. Yeah. Okay. With the fiftieth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixty in NFL Draft, the Houston
Speaker 1: Texas select Nick Martin. Hey, all right, Martin gone, Hey,
Speaker 1: well we thought maybe white hair. He's second round grades
Speaker 1: on our board. And Nick Martin, you talk about versatilities
Speaker 1: a center guard, right, football playing family too, so that'll work. Well,
Speaker 1: they'll get to see each other in the uh in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Okay, this is gonna be an interesting pick
Speaker 1: to me because it's the New York Jets. Tell him, Katie, Katie,
Speaker 1: who do you got? Well, I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 1: back billings because said there there is a Mohammed Wilkerson,
Speaker 1: Uh thing hanging up, hanging up. It's the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room right there? Are they gonna get rid of him?
Speaker 1: What's going on with Mohammed Wilkerson? You want to fix
Speaker 1: that very quickly. Here's Andrew Billings, our final first round
Speaker 1: player on our board, putting in the Hackenburg call. Let's go,
Speaker 1: you know what, That's what I mean. At the right thought, maybe,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, Houston was doing maybe jumping over
Speaker 1: the Jets for Hackenburg because the Jets and Hackenburg have
Speaker 1: been linked. It's it's a possibility here. I think this
Speaker 1: is you think they were sweating into the room maybe
Speaker 1: at the Jets on this one, if in fact, I
Speaker 1: mean they were worried about the Houston jumping him. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just gave all that money to Ustwiler. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they thought, you know, but the Bill O'Brien connects,
Speaker 1: you just never know. That's a wild card. Sure, But
Speaker 1: for the Jets, they have been connected here. They need
Speaker 1: a quarterback of the future. They're going to resign Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: at some point. It's going to happen. But they do
Speaker 1: need a guy that pass the past on Packson Lynch
Speaker 1: in the first round, so I mean Hackenburg it makes
Speaker 1: sense here. Okay, let's do this. Okay, it looks like
Speaker 1: the pick for the Jets is in that's gonna be
Speaker 1: picked fifty one in the second round. And this is
Speaker 1: something that in my in my mock draft that I
Speaker 1: did last night at two in the morning, I put
Speaker 1: Christian Hackenburg to the Jets at fifty one. Okay, Mike mccagnan,
Speaker 1: he wants and he wants a quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: And you know, we thought about maybe Packson Lynch in
Speaker 1: the first that didn't happen. Let's see where they go here, Well,
Speaker 1: the commissioner's walking into the podium, k Garrison, here we go.
Speaker 1: Now see New York Jets selection. Please welcome from Marshall University.
Speaker 1: Pick in the two thousand draft by the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: This is the quarterbarterback Chad Pennington. All right, chat with
Speaker 1: the fifty first pick in the two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft to New York Jets. Jets select quarterback Christian Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that. Dane Burglar with the mock and Jeff
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh with the call Christian Hackenburg. That'll be my only
Speaker 1: hit of the night. I'm gonna leave the rest up
Speaker 1: to you guys. You got it from here, got it
Speaker 1: from here? Yep. Okay, we'll talk about hackingburg though, I
Speaker 1: mean sure sure want me to talk about go ahead,
Speaker 1: bring him over here. I make excuses for Hackenburg. I
Speaker 1: was gonna go okay, I'll tell your way. He was
Speaker 1: gonna he was gonna be mean to the guy. I
Speaker 1: make excuses for him, like I take Connor Cook's completion
Speaker 1: percentage and I bury him for it, and I make
Speaker 1: excuses for Hacks. I just for me. If you're going
Speaker 1: to take a chance on a quarterback and it's not
Speaker 1: a first round guy that you think can step in
Speaker 1: and start to me, I would err on the side
Speaker 1: of a guy that at one point people thought he
Speaker 1: was a threat to be a number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: I would err on the side of a guy that
Speaker 1: had those sort of tools, you know. And you don't
Speaker 1: want to make too many excuses for a guy, because
Speaker 1: there's plenty of things that were wrong with the Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenburg tape that we're one hundred percent on him. Accuracy
Speaker 1: thrown to a guy five yards away from you, where
Speaker 1: you're too lazy to move your feet and you missed
Speaker 1: by five yards, that's on you. But the fact that
Speaker 1: you don't you're not surrounded by a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: You're on your back a lot. You lost your head.
Speaker 1: Coach that you had a really good thing going with.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of excuses for Christian Hackenburg
Speaker 1: for a reason, and I think there is a lot
Speaker 1: of talent in there. And if he's not already broken,
Speaker 1: you've got a shot to find a good quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think that's the point, if he's not already broken. And
Speaker 1: that last part, because the non positive with the quarterback
Speaker 1: is that he's damaged goods already and that's not something
Speaker 1: that I know or anyone else can really know. The
Speaker 1: game just moves at light speed for him and I
Speaker 1: you just don't see signs of it slowing down. And
Speaker 1: you know, just like you know Jeff said about kind
Speaker 1: of you know, you can't make too many excuses, but
Speaker 1: you do have to make some. Because the offensive line
Speaker 1: was terrible. He lost Alan Robinson after that two thirteen season,
Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien, that coaching staff, the coaching staff the
Speaker 1: past few years did him no favors. But a lot
Speaker 1: of it's on Hackenburg as well, holding the ball way
Speaker 1: too long, his accuracy way off. His completion percentage went
Speaker 1: down every single year, and it's just it's tough to
Speaker 1: see him becoming this sixty five percent completion percentage, type
Speaker 1: of window guy, and the confidence has to be rebuilt.
Speaker 1: And can't it going to New York? Can that happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have my doubts. But Bryce Petty
Speaker 1: selection they're gonna develop him and Petty together and they're
Speaker 1: gonna play with two quarters, maybe trade one of them.
Speaker 1: I want you liked Petty a little bit. And it's like,
Speaker 1: what is that? Say? What they think about Bryce Petty?
Speaker 1: Maybe he says I shouldn't be out here scouting anymore
Speaker 1: is what they ought to say. But no, I I
Speaker 1: see both both all right. And I didn't have a
Speaker 1: second round quarterback, but this guy was the top of
Speaker 1: it on our board, by the way, number he was
Speaker 1: the third round cornerback quarterback. Excuse me? So with Golf
Speaker 1: and Lynch and Wentz and then Hackenburg in the third round. Okay, enough,
Speaker 1: Christian Hackenburg talk right there. The Atlanta Falcons, I mean
Speaker 1: we had to take that way. Yes, the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: are on the clock. That's pick two fifty two. It
Speaker 1: is in. Let's go back to the white hair called
Speaker 1: let me give you Atlanta's neat linebacker safety they addressed
Speaker 1: last night and defensive line Okay, you didn't say linebacker.
Speaker 1: I want to throw a linebacker out there. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about a couple of those, because I do think white
Speaker 1: hair makes a lot of sense. But you start to
Speaker 1: look on the board and I see Facral still on
Speaker 1: the right. What about Dion Jones. Uh, you know, run
Speaker 1: and hit very speed guy very I mean like that's
Speaker 1: a gets a guy who might make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense for h for Atlanta, guy run around on defense
Speaker 1: for dan Quinn. Yeah, I kind of like that. I
Speaker 1: like the guard call Moore, but I think Deon Jones
Speaker 1: might be something they could take a look at playing inside.
Speaker 1: And Deon Jones, he is a good player. I really liked. Uh.
Speaker 1: He didn't get his chance. He was a special teamer
Speaker 1: up until this year, right um, and then as a
Speaker 1: senior you got a chance to start. And Kendall Beckwith
Speaker 1: is kind of the line the linebacker LSU. But Deon
Speaker 1: Jones was one that jumped off the tape to me.
Speaker 1: He could cover, he could play both sides. Runs. Speed
Speaker 1: is outstanding, and that's what you talk about dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: that the defense get him some speed. I worry about
Speaker 1: the size because he's under he's undersized and that lack
Speaker 1: of lane because of that. The Seattle that Seattle scheme
Speaker 1: though they do play with some undersized linebackers, right, they
Speaker 1: can help mask some of those deficiencies. So I like
Speaker 1: where Katie's going with this. It does make some sense
Speaker 1: in this scheme. And anybody want to argue when we
Speaker 1: talk about defensive line U they really have not much
Speaker 1: of a pass rush. It still is a priority according
Speaker 1: to our needs here. Uh, you know, Babada will be
Speaker 1: thirty five years old. Any defensive ends we've talked about Calhoun,
Speaker 1: I think to me, Shaliq Calhoun and Jonathan Bullard are
Speaker 1: kind of the two to me that are the best
Speaker 1: ones left on the board. After that, I start looking
Speaker 1: at Ronald Blair and I start going towards those small
Speaker 1: school guys, whether it's Blair, Matt Judon, whether it's David Perkins.
Speaker 1: I think, out of the big school guys left that
Speaker 1: are in the second third round conversation, Shaliq Calhoun and
Speaker 1: Jonathan Bullard are the two to me. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think I was about to say that, like we're getting
Speaker 1: to the point of the night where we do start
Speaker 1: having Ronald Blair and cycles of our conversation especially as
Speaker 1: we get closer to sixty seven start looking towards Grand
Speaker 1: Valley Stadia. Yeah, with the situation, do you think if
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have taken Neil Atlanta, would this been a
Speaker 1: spot then? For von Bell? Yeah? Yeah, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a guy, that's to say. And then Alexander is Alexander
Speaker 1: the corner? Is it the height problem there? Dane? For
Speaker 1: von Bell? No, excuse me, for Alexander? Oh yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely the issue there because his teams
Speaker 1: are worried that he's just maybe just a slot corner.
Speaker 1: But also, and I mentioned this before, or I don't
Speaker 1: want to beat up the kid, but the personality things,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of he marches to you know, the
Speaker 1: beat of his own drum, you know, he kind of
Speaker 1: does his own thing. Not the most astute when it
Speaker 1: comes to coverages and concepts, So I think that was
Speaker 1: a turn off for some. But I am very surprised
Speaker 1: that he is still on the board outside top fifty. Okay,
Speaker 1: so just too gonna recap the previous selections. At two
Speaker 1: fifty two, Christian Hackenberg goes to New York Jets. Nick
Speaker 1: Martin at two fifty goes to Houston. Jaren Reid at
Speaker 1: two forty nine goes to the Seattle Seahawks. Jason Spriggs,
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Indiana, goes to Kat's Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas, the wider SI from Ohio State, goes
Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints. At two forty two. We're
Speaker 1: still waiting for Atlanta's pick. They say it's in. That
Speaker 1: pick is at two fifty two. We've discussed a lot
Speaker 1: of different guys uh and here, and it will be
Speaker 1: interesting to see in fact who that selection is. Good
Speaker 1: question for you, who would you rather have Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: with a number two pick or Christian Hackenburg with the
Speaker 1: fifty first pick? Hackenburg, how can I answer neither? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess you said the word. You just say neither, Yeah, neither, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you have to take one of those two at that
Speaker 1: at one of those two values I mean yeah, and
Speaker 1: neither one are going to start for me next week?
Speaker 1: Can you even up there? Can suck it? Can we
Speaker 1: get some criteria here? Can you say Carson Wentz not
Speaker 1: just at number two, but what was given up a
Speaker 1: ticket that package to get there? Or Hackenburg in the fifties?
Speaker 1: Does that change your answer and mine would have been
Speaker 1: Hackenburg either way. Right, Yeah, I think you know, I
Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz Prize is a better chance to develop.
Speaker 1: But better as in terms of the massive value from
Speaker 1: the fifties to number two, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: that big. And Philly's gonna make it tough to develop
Speaker 1: him because I don't think that is a roster. That's
Speaker 1: sort of state you brought if you if you took
Speaker 1: a developmental quarterback and you brought him into Dallas where
Speaker 1: you put him behind this line and you had Dez
Speaker 1: and Witten and now you get Zeke behind him. But
Speaker 1: I guess I'd have to take that away if I'm
Speaker 1: putting a quarterback in, you know, if you put them
Speaker 1: in an environment like that, I feel like you got
Speaker 1: a pretty good shot. And Philly now you don't have
Speaker 1: the picks to surround them with and they're jettisoning all
Speaker 1: the players Chip brought in. I think that's a tough spot.
Speaker 1: It is a tough spot there. What was your answer there?
Speaker 1: Brought us? Oh, I had I had wins is a
Speaker 1: first round game? Now I know you did, but you
Speaker 1: have to take him my two and so the value
Speaker 1: or you would you rather have the value of Wins
Speaker 1: at two or the value of Hackenburg at fifty one.
Speaker 1: I think there's more to Wins than there is to Hackenburg.
Speaker 1: It's not the question, sir, No, there is. I take
Speaker 1: winch at two at Hackenburg. I just I think you're
Speaker 1: right about the scarring and all that stuff like that, right,
Speaker 1: I do. I think there's something too that. Okay, Hey, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: the pick finally in. The commissioner walks to the podium.
Speaker 1: I hope we will be able to hear that pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: my trusted executive producer is not in the bill. It
Speaker 1: looks like that, Uh, we won't get the Douglas. Atlanta
Speaker 1: is on the clock right now, and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the Commissier's pick. Here. Patrick Curney draft in twelve years
Speaker 1: resurrected his career. Was Patrick Curney. What's no that would?
Speaker 1: Go up? Go up, Go up, Go up? Douglas? The
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, Dion Jones, good night, everybody, six ft two twenty.
Speaker 1: This guy is on on fire. Who's the next one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go Washington. Washington's on the clock. Now, look at
Speaker 1: some needs here. Then, come on, what the Redskins need.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you some redskin needs. Uh could call
Speaker 1: their dan inside linebacker. That's what their needs going in
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, corner, safe, the running back, interior, defensive line, billing, center, tackle,
Speaker 1: or quarterback. I don't think corner is as much of
Speaker 1: a need anymore. With Norman, Yeah, okay, so safety Von Bell? Uh,
Speaker 1: Jeremy cash is you know, what do you plan it?
Speaker 1: It could be like a linebacker type. I guess another
Speaker 1: guy who's kind of that linebacker safety type hybrid and
Speaker 1: maybe figure it out. And depending on the team is
Speaker 1: Sue Cravens. That can make some sense. Running back, you're hot, though,
Speaker 1: who's your pick? You're hot? I think they didment your
Speaker 1: running back. So let's throw out Pro Sie and Keneth
Speaker 1: Dixon and and Devontae Booker as Derrick Henry went, you
Speaker 1: know about ten picks ago, I'm gonna go with Von
Speaker 1: Bell safety from Washington. Okay, vonn Bell? Anybody else want
Speaker 1: to throw a guy in there? I'm possibly going to Washington. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm picking Andrew Billings. Every peck that's Billings. That's kind
Speaker 1: of you gotta pick somebody besides, all right, then Billings
Speaker 1: this time? All right? Give me Kenneth Dixon. Okay, running
Speaker 1: back boy Doxon and Kenneth Dickson and Kenneth Dixon. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take all my skill position players that I want
Speaker 1: on my team. You feel good about that? No, not really,
Speaker 1: But I'm just I got to pick a guy, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to take Billings. Okay, who do you
Speaker 1: not want them to take? As a as a you know,
Speaker 1: following them in the division, who do you not want
Speaker 1: them to take? What's fine? Who are they gonna take?
Speaker 1: The Commissioner's walking the card to the podium, Kick Garrison,
Speaker 1: what do we got to announce thee Washington Redskins selection?
Speaker 1: Please welcome from the University of California, Berkeley. The twelfth
Speaker 1: overall pick in the nineteen eighty eight draft, linebacker Ken Harvey,
Speaker 1: good player Tim's dad. With the fifty third pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Washsta reds Cancer leg
Speaker 1: Sua Cravins. Sua Cravens safety. So that's a pick that
Speaker 1: I don't mind at all as a person who's supporting
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. All Sue craven just darn good football player.
Speaker 1: I know he didn't test off the charts, but I
Speaker 1: loved his tape. To me, this is a player who
Speaker 1: I would have considered in the late first round. I
Speaker 1: think he's that good of a player. And so where
Speaker 1: do you play him? That's kind of the that's the conversation.
Speaker 1: Is he a linebacker? Is he Safety's a hybrid version,
Speaker 1: but he's just he's instinctive. I think he has the
Speaker 1: athletics him the cover. He's not necessarily a speedster a
Speaker 1: guy who has explosive movements, but he does have a
Speaker 1: little bit of twitch to him with his hips and
Speaker 1: the way he can cover. So he did a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything for USC. I mean he led the
Speaker 1: team of tackles, tagers for law sacks, interceptions. I mean
Speaker 1: he was without Suet Craven's on that USC defense, it
Speaker 1: would have been a disaster. So he's a good player.
Speaker 1: You know what, You're absolutely probably right about the player.
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Speaker 1: a great field for the player. I'll trust your word
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Speaker 1: coverage of the twenty sixteen and FL Draft on Dallas
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Speaker 1: Back here with the NFL Draft, the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen version, the eighty first NFL Draft, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin
Speaker 1: Turner to take a little break, coming back here in
Speaker 1: a minute, and then Dame Burger. Brian brought us with
Speaker 1: you here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. K Garrison doing
Speaker 1: the executive producing for us tonight. Right now, the war
Speaker 1: room cam is covered, so anyone trying access that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: once it's available, we'll show that. Yeah, can't thank you
Speaker 1: very much. We haven't had a much action in the
Speaker 1: war room per se the Cowboys. We can go back
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys opening the third h third pick in
Speaker 1: this round, Jalen Smith. It's the lowest graded pick on
Speaker 1: NFL dot com. Yeah, Jalen Smith, and probably the most
Speaker 1: questions about and it'll be interesting to see what they say. Again,
Speaker 1: We've talked about this a bunch the Cowboys. Doctor Cooper
Speaker 1: did the surgery on Jalen Smith's need. They have a
Speaker 1: full understanding of what he is as a person, as
Speaker 1: a player, and so this is when somebody's gonna sit
Speaker 1: out for an entire year and we'll see how he
Speaker 1: comes back. Okay, Vikings were on the clock. Now they're
Speaker 1: about to hand the pick in. Let's go to the
Speaker 1: podium and the commissioner for the Viking selection, He's welcome
Speaker 1: from the University of Central Florida. The eleventh overall pick
Speaker 1: of the nineteen ninety nine draft by the Vikings quarterback
Speaker 1: don't take Colepepper. Thank you, oh radio voice. With the
Speaker 1: fifty fourth pick in the twenty sixteen NFL draw the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Let McKenzie defensive Clipson, here you go. All right,
Speaker 1: that's a great pick. McKenzie Alexander. We talked about him,
Speaker 1: how rub some people in the wrong way. I had
Speaker 1: him as a top corner this year and Mini Josh Norman,
Speaker 1: he just I understand the concerns with him, but quick reflexes,
Speaker 1: very very competitive, very confident what he can do. Zero
Speaker 1: interceptions in his career. Obviously that's not ideal, but I
Speaker 1: think it's because they didn't throw at him acc quarterbacks
Speaker 1: stayed away from him. He hasn't given up a touchdown
Speaker 1: since his freshman season September of a freshman season. So
Speaker 1: I think he's a very good player. And he's going
Speaker 1: to a good situation with Zimmer up there in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and they've got some corner depth, so I think it's
Speaker 1: a good fit for both sides. Yeah, I'll be interested
Speaker 1: to see Mike Zimmer trying to make him play square
Speaker 1: because he plays sideways and that's trail bailed technique and
Speaker 1: he's almost running sideways and Zim is a is a
Speaker 1: technique guy. He will be all in this kid's kitchen
Speaker 1: to get him to play. But you talk about the quickness,
Speaker 1: all those things about him. Very positive. Okay, since nay
Speaker 1: Bengals would be the next team on the clock, it
Speaker 1: looks like the pick is in the commissioner making the
Speaker 1: walk to the podium. Let's listen to with the Bengals
Speaker 1: adds two fifty five to announce thee Cincinnati Bengal selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from San Diego State University, the fifteenth overall
Speaker 1: selection in the nineteen seventy three draft by the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Isaac Curtis with the fifty fifth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, our Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: select Tyler boy good thick wide receiver Pittsburgh. And in
Speaker 1: the first round, Cincinnati got shut out of those wide
Speaker 1: receivers that run, and so they get their wide receiver here.
Speaker 1: Shepherd's off the board, Michael Thomas is off the board,
Speaker 1: Braxton Miller, Tyler Boyd, that's the new that's the next
Speaker 1: wave of receivers here. And so it's a good pick.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Boyd, it reminds me a lot of maybe
Speaker 1: a Jarvis Landry type of role. I think that would
Speaker 1: suit him. Use those routes, use us strong hands. I
Speaker 1: think that he could really be a nice fit there
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Yeah, well, we'll end to go over in
Speaker 1: the middle into traffic, makes some tough catches. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm only concerned with Tyler Boyd is just how much
Speaker 1: is he gonna give you after the catch? Yeah? Where's
Speaker 1: the explosion from the player? Uh? It is something we
Speaker 1: should note. One of the thirty visits that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had ten picks away from about about ten to twelve
Speaker 1: picks away from where the Cowboys select, So that was
Speaker 1: one of the guys the Cowboys had in for a workout.
Speaker 1: So h Tyler Boyd to the to the Bengals right
Speaker 1: there at fifty five, my wide receiver scout, Do you
Speaker 1: like this pick? Yeah, I called Brexton Miller. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Something about Cincinnati made me think that Brexon
Speaker 1: would Paul Brown. Even though we had Tyler Boyd as
Speaker 1: in front of Brexon Miller on our board, I'd try
Speaker 1: to get cute and try to make a pick and
Speaker 1: miss because I didn't just go straight down on the board. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Paul Brown, who's who was the founding founder of the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, worked at Ohio State, so Braxon Miller could
Speaker 1: have made a whole heck of a lot of sense
Speaker 1: right there. So I liked I liked Tyler Boyd when
Speaker 1: we watched me. I think the game against Iowa where
Speaker 1: it was him against Desmond King. We'll talk about Desmond
Speaker 1: King next year. At this time, that was a fun
Speaker 1: battle to watch she. I think the way that they
Speaker 1: used him and just tried to find ways to get
Speaker 1: the ball to him. I think he's a really smart player.
Speaker 1: I think he's aware against zone coverage and finds openings
Speaker 1: athleticism not perfect, but I liked the way he catches
Speaker 1: the ball. I liked the way they did multiple things
Speaker 1: to get it to him. I like the way he
Speaker 1: has a field for the game. Okay, well, the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears are now on the clock. It looks like they're
Speaker 1: picks in at two fifty six. They've done a lot
Speaker 1: of trade now they have. They seemed like they haven't
Speaker 1: made any picks, but they're they're they're gonna make one here.
Speaker 1: I believe we've talked about their needs going in. We're
Speaker 1: defensive end. They got Leonard Floyd. They got Leonard Floyd.
Speaker 1: And then the quarterback, tight end, corner back, quarterback? Is
Speaker 1: there already a fuller? There? Is there a fuller? Should
Speaker 1: grab another one? About a second fuller? Kendall Kendall Fuller? Uh?
Speaker 1: Kind of talk about all the trade around though the
Speaker 1: Bears have done. Yeah, they move back twice, picked up
Speaker 1: a few picks next year as well. So how about
Speaker 1: running back there? Lankford And yeah, I'm looking at my board,
Speaker 1: my top guys, Cody white Hair, Yeah, like, yeah, why
Speaker 1: is he still here? I mean, he's a darn football player. Okay,
Speaker 1: make a case. I mean, well, I don't have to,
Speaker 1: because we've talked about him. He's I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: good player that is being looked over by these teams.
Speaker 1: And so you look at we're at pick fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Yet you know at this point in the draft, um,
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at Okay, Chicago's up now, then
Speaker 1: we got Indianapolis, Pittsburgh. One of these three teams has
Speaker 1: to take Cody white Hair because he's too good of
Speaker 1: a player to last into the sixties. Again. Left tackle
Speaker 1: gonna move inside, a guard can play center. A former
Speaker 1: you know, just no star recruit who's really been a
Speaker 1: self made player. I've got all the respect in the
Speaker 1: world for him. He's one of my favorite players this year.
Speaker 1: And and you guys have been selling him too as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all look it up board. Well he's here,
Speaker 1: and we got a second round grade on him. And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're sitting there at fifty six,
Speaker 1: and you know, if we're if we're smart or any
Speaker 1: good at our jobs, and we say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we got a second round grade on this white here,
Speaker 1: a kid. You think we need to make this pick?
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you're gonna do your due
Speaker 1: diligence and and evaluate players, and you got second round
Speaker 1: grades on the board, you know, I mean that guys
Speaker 1: that potentially could have you know that you really really like.
Speaker 1: I think you owe it's yourself to make that pick.
Speaker 1: Let's throw out some some running backs though, because I
Speaker 1: got some second round running backs on my board, Kenneth
Speaker 1: and right right now, Look, Jeremy Langford is a guy
Speaker 1: who we didn't like a whole lot last year. I
Speaker 1: didn't like a whole lot last year, right, And I
Speaker 1: know it wasn't one of j favorite players. He stepped
Speaker 1: in for Forte when he got hurt, and he had
Speaker 1: some solid production. But I don't think anyone looks at
Speaker 1: Jeremy Langford is you know, a really really good starting
Speaker 1: running back in the league. So maybe that's an area
Speaker 1: they might addressed as well. But I think Cody White
Speaker 1: here makes a lot of sense and try to keep
Speaker 1: Cutler upride for once, especially with I think running back
Speaker 1: probably stretches a little bit better than that quality of
Speaker 1: offensive line play where it seems like maybe there's two
Speaker 1: left interior offensive lineman that you really like, right, maybe
Speaker 1: him and Western Westerman. Right, Yeah, So I was surprised
Speaker 1: that Garnett was the first interior offensive line trade up
Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, I thought it would have
Speaker 1: been Whitehurd Kiss. Well, here we go, Here we go
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears. Are they've got their pick in,
Speaker 1: They've got the contingency of Bear folk. Up on the stage,
Speaker 1: Dick and I are joined by members of Chicago's Window
Speaker 1: Phillips Academy football team. Like twenty people U there undefeated
Speaker 1: last year, the first Chicago Public League high school to
Speaker 1: win the Illinois state championship. Oh, just getting there, some kids,
Speaker 1: just a team to Troy McCallister, got right to announce
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears selection. Please welcome from the University of Illinois,
Speaker 1: the third overall pick in the nineteen sixty five draft
Speaker 1: by the Bears. Nineteen seventy nine Hall of Fame inductee
Speaker 1: linebacker Dick Buckets. Still love that man, don't they all? Right?
Speaker 1: With the fifty six pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, to Chicago Bears select Cody White here
Speaker 1: guard from route time. Here we go, a nice called
Speaker 1: Dame Burglar. That was a pick right there. We went
Speaker 1: through all those needs and really guard wasn't one of them.
Speaker 1: It's just too good of a football player. The thing exactly.
Speaker 1: At some point, you know, you have to look and say, shoot,
Speaker 1: Cody white here is still hit on the board. We
Speaker 1: gotta take him. We can't pass it again. I think
Speaker 1: he offers position versatility. He played tackle, but I think
Speaker 1: he a guard center. He could play any of those
Speaker 1: three spots. He's going to help that Bears offensive line
Speaker 1: and it has some issues. You know, where's Kyle long fit.
Speaker 1: They signed Bobby Massey. I think he's going to help
Speaker 1: add some depth in the interior there. Okay, Well, the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears take Dame Brugler's guy, our guy as well.
Speaker 1: We had a second round grade on him as well
Speaker 1: on the one oh five three board. Cody Whitehair is
Speaker 1: now a Chicago Bear. This means that the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: are on the clock. This is a pick that they
Speaker 1: got from the Green Bay Packers, where the Packers jumped
Speaker 1: up there and took Jason Spriggs from Indiana. Got a
Speaker 1: prediction for you, but no name attached to it, just
Speaker 1: a blind prediction. Ryan Grigson loves to make poor decisions.
Speaker 1: Did finally draft somebody that plays on a line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: which he needed a bunch of Okay, now that he's
Speaker 1: done one, I don't think he'll do it again. You
Speaker 1: can make a bad decision, So it'll either be a
Speaker 1: skill position player on offense or a secondary player on defense.
Speaker 1: Because it's the Colts and they need help on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, I will predict they don't do it well.
Speaker 1: And the Colts right along with those at the Colts
Speaker 1: like forty times, they like test guys that test really well.
Speaker 1: So all right, well, let's see. Let's see if in
Speaker 1: fact that is the case. Looks like that Marshall Falk
Speaker 1: who when I was at Texas A and M we
Speaker 1: recruited as a defensive faction. It's gonna make from San
Speaker 1: Diego State University the second overall pick in the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four draft by the Colts two thousand and eleven
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductee running back Marshall Falk. Yeah, recruited
Speaker 1: him as a defensive that's smart. For the fifty seven
Speaker 1: pick of the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Coats select T. J. Greene defends, Yeah, it's forty
Speaker 1: time day and a forty time that goes on. We
Speaker 1: got rule the NFL. If you're over six foot and
Speaker 1: over two hundred pounds and you can run a four
Speaker 1: to three, you go five rounds, two high. This is
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting players in this draft. Where
Speaker 1: do you play him well? And that's that's exactly why.
Speaker 1: He was a wide receiver when he arrived at Clemson,
Speaker 1: but as Jayron Curse says, he couldn't catch, so they
Speaker 1: moved into the secondary. He plays safety him