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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, October thirteen, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number forty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Morgan Studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Got Nave, Dave and Nick with me. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: joined by Bucky Brooks here in a bit. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the New England Patriots offense versus the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Dve Vince. Before we do that, though, there a

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Speaker 1: start first with injuries. What are we keeping an eye

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Speaker 1: on this week? Dave, you just came from the coaches

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Speaker 1: this week? We're keeping an eye on guys coming back?

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Speaker 1: Derek Oh, who's coming back? Well? Coming back might be premature,

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Speaker 1: but they're starting, they're starting their journey back. Calvin Joseph

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Speaker 1: is going to be limited in practice today. Donovan Wilson

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Speaker 1: There was a Sean mccun thank you. You see you

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Speaker 1: those three will be limited in practice. Um, he can't practice,

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Speaker 1: but we know it sounds I think the lyall Colin

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Speaker 1: You have a three week a three week exemption for

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Speaker 1: Diggs is out around him when he was a high

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Speaker 1: school wide receiver and watching him him run rouse and

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Speaker 1: watching him catch passes, and then watching him flipping go

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Speaker 1: on the other side. You see all of those skills

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Speaker 1: translate fear from other corners when the ball is in

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Speaker 1: the air because they can't figure out where the ball

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Speaker 1: is going or how to judge in flight. He plays

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Speaker 1: it like a wide receiver, and so he is exactly

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Speaker 1: what you want to see in a conversion prospect meeting

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Speaker 1: a guy who converts from wide receiver to dB. You

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Speaker 1: want to see them pick up the skills of a

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Speaker 1: defensive back while retaining the ball skills of a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Dix has that, and so that has made him

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Speaker 1: a very dangerous playmaker on the backside because I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody expected the game to click for him this

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Speaker 1: early in his career. But you gotta give him his

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Speaker 1: prost because he is playing at a high level. Hey, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Thinking back to March, the Patriots gave a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to Hunter Henry and John hu Smith, and the

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Speaker 1: talking point was kind of, oh, they're going back to

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Speaker 1: a decade ago when they add Hernandez and Gronk together

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Speaker 1: and they were kind of revolutionizing passing out of twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel and being able to do this, that and the

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Speaker 1: other with these tight ends. I don't get the impression

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Speaker 1: from the little I know about the Patriots that it's

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Speaker 1: really working that well. So far, am I mistaken about that?

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Speaker 1: Or are these what do these guys look like in

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Speaker 1: this offense? Well? I mean it's still a team in transition.

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Speaker 1: I will say this about the Patriots. The Patriots do

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Speaker 1: this better than anybody else in the league, and they've

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Speaker 1: always done it. The way they start a season isn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily the way they end the season in terms of

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Speaker 1: the way they gain planning and the way they kind

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Speaker 1: of build their team and build how they go about

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Speaker 1: their approach each week, and so the first part of

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Speaker 1: the season for them is really much like the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Who are the players, who are the guys that we

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Speaker 1: can lean on? And then once they figure out their

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Speaker 1: best course of action. They didn't build a plan early

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Speaker 1: in the year. Jonathan Smith and Hunter Henry have not

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Speaker 1: been contributors. Some of that is on the quarterback. Some

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Speaker 1: of that is just the way the game is played out,

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Speaker 1: but those guys have not been as big as we expected,

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Speaker 1: a bigger part of the team as we expected in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. But they can line up in twelve personnel,

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Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends, to wide receivers and become

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Speaker 1: difference makers. You just never know, because this is a

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Speaker 1: team that they're gay plans at night, snowflakes. They never

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Speaker 1: look the same on a week to week basis, So

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Speaker 1: this could be the week that we see more twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel and watch those two guys go off. Hey, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: As I was doing some study on this new England

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Speaker 1: Patriot offense, I noticed something really interesting. They actually throw

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot relative to the rest of the

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Speaker 1: league their eighth right now in passing attempts. They also

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Speaker 1: run the ball as little as like one of the

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Speaker 1: lower teams in the league. They're twenty eighth in rushing attempts.

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Speaker 1: Is this a situation where this is happening because as

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Speaker 1: strategic decision for them, or is this just the nature

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Speaker 1: of the games that they've been in and they've just

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Speaker 1: been in situations where they've had to pass a lot

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Speaker 1: more than they've run. The struggles of the offense a

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Speaker 1: line for them from playing the way they wanted to play.

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Speaker 1: They would like to get in twenty one personnel. They

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Speaker 1: kind of run it and pound it and grind it out.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been able to do it. And so when

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Speaker 1: you watch the Patriots, the Patriots kind of operate like

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Speaker 1: a service academy when it comes to their approach. They're

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Speaker 1: what we call a sequential play calling team. So they

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Speaker 1: started the game out and if something doesn't work, then

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Speaker 1: they'll go Hey, let's spread it out. Let's go empty,

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Speaker 1: let's go quick dinking up game. If we can't get that,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the screen game. If we can't get that,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the tricks and gadgets to try and

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Speaker 1: create an explosive play. And so as you're watching them,

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Speaker 1: you will see them just kind of go down this

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Speaker 1: checklist if they're getting stopped early, and whatever they hit

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Speaker 1: on they tend to stay in. And so they haven't

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Speaker 1: been able to successfully maintain an identity because they just

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Speaker 1: haven't had those successful drives down after down, week after

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Speaker 1: week after week. And so that's why they're a bit

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Speaker 1: of a hodgepode On offense right now. When I look

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Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks Alabama that they've had, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: under Sabin, most of them haven't had a ton of success.

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Speaker 1: I guess this jury still out on tour and all that.

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Speaker 1: But but what did you like or what did you

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Speaker 1: how did you evaluate Mac Jones. He's got all the

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Speaker 1: talent around him. What did you see from him when

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Speaker 1: he was coming out? Were you a big fan of his?

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Speaker 1: In this quarterback class of Avengers right super heroes, I

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Speaker 1: call Mac Jones iron Man because Mac jones superpower is

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Speaker 1: nothing innate that he has. It's all the suit, it's

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Speaker 1: all everything that is around him. It is the supporting cast,

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Speaker 1: it is the coaching staff, it's the plan. And what

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Speaker 1: he does is he distributes the ball to the open guy.

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Speaker 1: But if you ask mac Jones to do it by himself,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have any special talents. When you think about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, they all

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Speaker 1: had extraordinary individual pology, whether it was the armed talent,

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Speaker 1: the letticism, something about them that allowed them to dominate

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Speaker 1: the game on their own. Mac Jones doesn't have that.

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Speaker 1: Now we can talk about his IQ and his ability

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Speaker 1: to process, but that's not necessarily a superpower in the

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Speaker 1: same light. So he was dependent upon the system and

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Speaker 1: where he landed more than any other quarterback. Now he

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Speaker 1: landed in a perfect system for him. But if the

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Speaker 1: game ever gets out of whack where they can't protect

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Speaker 1: it or they can't call it on the script, mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is helpless. He doesn't have that ability to get

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Speaker 1: you right. So he is a guy who needs everything

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Speaker 1: around him to be right, and he can deal in

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Speaker 1: dead vein, But if it becomes a sandlot football game.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones can't thrive in that environment because that's not

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Speaker 1: how he's built. Along that same line, I can't help

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Speaker 1: but notice, I don't think he's even averaging seven yards

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Speaker 1: per attempt this season, just a lot of short stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody made a big deal. I don't. He

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Speaker 1: was averaging five yards per attempt against the Bucks the

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Speaker 1: other day. Is that is it an unwillingness to take

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Speaker 1: shots that are there? I'm sure they don't want him

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Speaker 1: taking a lot of risks giving his level of experience.

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Speaker 1: But what does it look like on film to you?

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Speaker 1: Is it like a reluctance? Can the Cowboys afford to

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Speaker 1: sit on everything short? What's it looked like? It's a

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Speaker 1: combination of factors. I'm not saying that if he won't

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Speaker 1: push the ball down the field, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: has the playmakers that will allow him to push it

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Speaker 1: down the field when we line up, and the first

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Speaker 1: thing that dan Quinn and the staff have to do

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Speaker 1: is they got to look at, Okay, who are the threats.

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Speaker 1: Who are the guys that can hurt us? They have

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Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar, they have Kendrick Bourne, they have Jacoby Myers.

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Speaker 1: Then they have the two tight ends, Jonah Smith and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. If you privately ask the Cowboys defenders who

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Speaker 1: are they scared of, none of them. And so what

560
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Speaker 1: they have to do is they have to spread you

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Speaker 1: out and see if they can catch you in zone

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Speaker 1: coverage and beat you a bunch of five and six

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Speaker 1: yard rouse and eventually you miss a tackle that turns

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Speaker 1: to fifteen yards and they methodically dribe it down the field.

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Speaker 1: But this is a team that lacks the explosive playmaking

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Speaker 1: power of some of the other teams. That's why we

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Speaker 1: see the double passes, the fleet flickers, the reverse throws,

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Speaker 1: because the only way they can generate chunk plays is

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Speaker 1: about deception and misdirection. They don't have the ability to

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Speaker 1: line up and say, we're better than your guy on

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Speaker 1: the outside, so we're gonna throw it over your head.

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Speaker 1: And so that has made Mac Jones have to be

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Speaker 1: a deacon dunk passer because of talent around him doesn't

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Speaker 1: allow him to push you down the field. So, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite things that you've done this year

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Speaker 1: and added to your staple of writing is the your

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Speaker 1: Blue Chips article. These are the best players on the

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Speaker 1: other team. Tell me who the studs are. Every week

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Speaker 1: that you've done it, it's been like eight to ten guys.

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Speaker 1: So do they have eight to ten guys? I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you? I mean, do they have that many what

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Speaker 1: you would call blue chip players. No, they don't. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that many guys. So typically come from them. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it might be most of their players. All the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, they have about four or five guys.

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Speaker 1: But it takes eight to twelve blue chip guys to

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Speaker 1: field the championship team. This is a team that is

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Speaker 1: probably sitting at six maybe seven, And that's being very

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Speaker 1: generous when you compare their players to the players around

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Speaker 1: the league. It has always been the system. And maybe

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Speaker 1: now I have to say, maybe Tom Brady didn't really

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Speaker 1: elevate the team more than I gave them credit for.

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Speaker 1: But right now, this is not a team that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of A level players. They win because they

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Speaker 1: typically a sail at the dbos don't beat ourselves penalties, turnovers,

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Speaker 1: those things, explosive plays. When they don't give those things up,

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Speaker 1: they put it on you to beat them. And more

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Speaker 1: times than not, teams mess it up by making mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the Houston game. Houston was better, but

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Speaker 1: they messed it up. Not that the Patriots necessarily went

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Speaker 1: out and beat them, all right, But we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: you go. Man. We're gonna get back with you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this defense, the Patriots defense versus

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. We're going to also take our final

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Speaker 1: the Star Real quick. Before we end the show, I

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Speaker 1: did want to talk a little bit about the Dallas defense.

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Speaker 1: I want to zero in a little bit on Michael

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. He led the team with eight tackles this

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Speaker 1: last game. He had three quarterback hits. My question for

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Speaker 1: you guys, is he more impactful at defensive end or

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Speaker 1: at linebacker? And I want you to think about it

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Speaker 1: from Samue. There have been now a couple games where

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Speaker 1: he's been primarily doing both. Where do you think he's

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Speaker 1: more impactful for this team in this defense? I think

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Speaker 1: there's two elements to consider. Their one. I mean, rushing

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Speaker 1: the passer is more impactful. Those guys make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. That's why we said when they drafted Parsons,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't that thrilled about it because I was like,

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Speaker 1: he's got to have a pass rushing element if this

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Speaker 1: is going to be worth this pick. And then on

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Speaker 1: top of that, it's just easier to see that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's easier to see what the guys are doing chasing

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Speaker 1: the quarterback out of the pocket than everything that a

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Speaker 1: linebacker is bringing the table. Micah had a hell of

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Speaker 1: a they wound up scoring. It was the dry It

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Speaker 1: was the same as the Cocks play, but he's stuffed

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Speaker 1: a goal line run. Just blew the guy up right

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Speaker 1: in the hole, right there at the goal line. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like he didn't make an impact. And I

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Speaker 1: don't love the question to be honest with because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: just let the guy play football, let him kind of

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Speaker 1: feel this thing out. I'm I don't like people saying like, well,

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Speaker 1: he needs to be an end full time or this,

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Speaker 1: that and the other. I think I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that dan Quinn is changing what he's doing with him

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Speaker 1: based on the opponent. I think it's fun. I think

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Speaker 1: it's good for him, and it's good for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: defense agree hundred percent. Also, you know, when when d

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Speaker 1: Law comes back, you know, and Randy's playing pretty Randy's

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Speaker 1: playing at a very high level right now too, just

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Speaker 1: because he is pushing guys back. He's playing with strength

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Speaker 1: that we didn't necessarily know he had, you know, like

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Speaker 1: or you know, and he's he's a little older now,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, he's playing with leverage and strength.

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Speaker 1: So those guys together, I can't wait to see those

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Speaker 1: guys at the ends together. That being said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to see Parsons play linebacker, but I also

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Speaker 1: love the element of him doing his thing, So I

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Speaker 1: think he's a linebacker. He once he starts even being

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Speaker 1: more aware of what's happening, he will be sidelined to silent.

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Speaker 1: He'll play even faster. But every now and again, he's

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Speaker 1: going to line up in a spot you don't recognize.

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Speaker 1: If they see a mismatch, he can whip this guard.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know what's coming, but it's gonna come on

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Speaker 1: third nine. And I love that element. So I would

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Speaker 1: agree with Dave. I keep him the way where he

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Speaker 1: is mostly linebacker but occasional rushing the passer. I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there should be a split every week, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't always have to be fifty fifty. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: in favor of that. I would say this, and I

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Speaker 1: heard somebody mentioned this yesterday, and I think it got

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Speaker 1: me excited because I was like, think about it like this.

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Speaker 1: Once Tanks back, you get into December, you get into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and you get into passing downs. What if

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Speaker 1: you had Micah Tank kicked down the defensive tackle, OSA

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Speaker 1: and Randy all rushed in the passer. That gets me

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Speaker 1: really exciting. And the reason why it gets me really

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Speaker 1: excited is because I always go back to that Giant's

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Speaker 1: team that went to the Super Bowl and won it

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Speaker 1: and did it against some really great offenses that they

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Speaker 1: took down along the way, including the Cowboys, and I

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Speaker 1: think that the reason why they did that because they

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Speaker 1: had a front four that could get after the quarter back,

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Speaker 1: and so it allowed them to be able to basically say,

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Speaker 1: we can come get your quarterback and we can apply

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Speaker 1: a ton of pressure with four guys. Any defense that

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Speaker 1: can do that, especially when you got guys on the

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Speaker 1: back end who are ballhawks, it gives you a really

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Speaker 1: great advantage defensively, and I think that would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: And so from that's end, when that side again, I

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Speaker 1: agree both you guys. I think he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: defensive man. I think he's gonna be a linebacker. But

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Speaker 1: I love the idea on passing downs, especially when you

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Speaker 1: get to Marcus back of putting them at defensive in

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you're being imagined him enough

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because that was a very

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Speaker 1: straightforward four man front. We've already seen dan Quinn do

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Speaker 1: some goofy stuff. You could line up on a third

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Speaker 1: and eight with Osa and Gallimore at tackle, Randy it

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Speaker 1: right in, tank it left in, and then just overhang

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Speaker 1: Mica off of that as a stand up rush. What

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Speaker 1: have you come up the gate eight? Yeah? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: because what that does is that makes your running back

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Speaker 1: and your guard and all that stuff. That's what they're

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Speaker 1: focused in, so you don't have to worry about dumping

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Speaker 1: screens to these backs or whatever. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: worry about that part him right up the minute. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we've seen it. I loved it though

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Speaker 1: before when Jalen was still here. Against the Eagles, they

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Speaker 1: would mug the a gap with Jalen on passing downs

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Speaker 1: and Michael would be brushing on the edge and it

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Speaker 1: was Curse that was playing behind all of that as

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Speaker 1: kind of the guy who could catch everything if it

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Speaker 1: got past him. Jalen is not that fast. Imagine doing

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Speaker 1: that with Micah when you've got ends that are on

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Speaker 1: the outside of it. I mean, there's just a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun stuff that they can do. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put Micah Parsons in a box.

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Speaker 1: I want him to be able to do whatever he

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Speaker 1: wants to do. And I guess really the point of

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Speaker 1: that is more once Tank is back, they can really

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Speaker 1: freelance a lot more with Mica. And that means defensive end,

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Speaker 1: that means linebacker, that means just wherever you want to

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Speaker 1: line him up. You can line him up as safety

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Speaker 1: if you want to and figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: get him involved in the play. I just think you

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Speaker 1: got a lot more flexibility of being able to move

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Speaker 1: him around and do whatever you want to do when

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Speaker 1: you get Tank back. You got three guys right now

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Speaker 1: that are playing in positions that are you don't really

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Speaker 1: know what their position is. Mica is one of them.

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Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill, I mean you know his position, but he

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Speaker 1: can play it like a safety. And Jalon curses another

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Speaker 1: and those guys right there giving you so much flexibility versatility.

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Speaker 1: When the guys get injured. Donald Wilson can come back,

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Speaker 1: he can play safety, and you can maybe slade a

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Speaker 1: guy inside. I mean, there's just you got a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that I wouldn't call him tweeters, but they

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Speaker 1: can just do multiple fox too. Jabril Cox is in.

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Speaker 1: They see how much they'll use him over the next

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Speaker 1: There are safeties in the league that bigger than him,

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Speaker 1: but he plays linebacker and is one of them. But

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Speaker 1: that I mean just to play just to catch Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and the flat I mean that was a that

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Speaker 1: was a safety type explosion from the speed standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: know okay, but it hit like a linebacker. That just

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Speaker 1: gave me an idea of where the mail bag is

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Speaker 1: going in the future because people people spent years trying

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Speaker 1: to move Sean Lee to safety and so now it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Jabril Cox for sure. It's like, well he

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Speaker 1: can play safety, Kenny. Yeah. What I love about to

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Speaker 1: seem like that they don't worry about putting labels on

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Speaker 1: guys and I'll just line them up and they just say,

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Speaker 1: go play football, you know, And honestly, it's a fitting

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Speaker 1: week to talk about it. That's the Patriots are famous

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Speaker 1: for it. They're like, we got two cornerbacks who can

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Speaker 1: handle the boundaries and everything else is kind of up

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Speaker 1: for grabs, and it's I love it. It's worth It's

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Speaker 1: the best way to play offenses in this day and

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00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: age when it's so tilted the other way. And you

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Speaker 1: know this, this goes for life. This isn't just football.

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Speaker 1: But the best people in the world are the best

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Speaker 1: or you know, the best teachers, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: explaining football on a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to get ready,

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Speaker 1: or explaining algebra, whatever it is. The teachers, you know,

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Speaker 1: the best teachers are the ones that know how to

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Speaker 1: get that can relate things. And I gotta give the

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Speaker 1: credit to the Patriots for doing that. They do it

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Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, and that's what dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn is doing. He's doing it in a way that

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Speaker 1: these guys understand. But yet offensive coordinators are still having

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Speaker 1: trouble with it. All right, we appreciate you guys, you

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Speaker 1: want us, we'll be back tomorrow. We're going to jump

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Speaker 1: into the new England Patriot defense versus the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 1: Still then for Nick even Danny McCrae, oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: forty forty. I don't want, you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go upstair and have Danny McCay like, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: mean I did have a T shirt as a kid said,

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Speaker 1: here comes to the next Bill Bates. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: seven years old. He was forty. I loved Bill Bates.

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Speaker 1: But you know, hey, we gotta watch Survivor to night.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, check out my guy Danny A.

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Speaker 1: Knight on Survivor and yeah, we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: So far, they are just running rough shot over everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So what's your favorite forty Derek? Danny? Okay, well, did

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Speaker 1: you have something. You thought I was gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe a dream for from Devin White. Devin White forty

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Speaker 1: here also, So we're just we're just we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: have somebody. Somebody on Twitter is like thirty eight John L.

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Speaker 1: Williams played for Seattle, and I'm like, that's not the

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Speaker 1: game we're doing. You're right, I'm sorry. Cowboys numbers only

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Speaker 1: from now, All right, guys, let's see outmow. This has

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