1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Official pod is presented by win Bet Betting is a 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: team sport bet together at win Bet. Eric Allen here 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive with one of the busiest men 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, that's assistant GM rex Ogan. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here as always. What's it been like 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody's been busy. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: It's it's chaos, but it's a controlled chaos. It's fun, man, 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: it's you know, the scouts can come back in and 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: we have meetings with the coaches and leads up to 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: the draft and then the draft itself and then the 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: fury of post draft, getting undrafted free agents signed and 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: in addition to balancing the some of the free agents 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: who we've recently have signed as well. 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: But you've been doing this for a couple of decades. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Can you take me through Monday where you guys actually 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: we're going to tape a podcast on Monday, and you 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: told me a little bit bit and a couple of 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: minutes later, we see Adam Schefter reporting a deal between 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Packers, and then it's officially announced 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, press conference on Wednesday, and oh, by the way, 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: you have a draft on Thursday. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just all mix it all together and 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: let's roll. 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: So we just adapt, man, our college college scouts, our 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: pro scouts, our player personnel department does an unbelievable job 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: of being able to balance everything and adjusting to what 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: needs whatever hat needs to be worn, and how we 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: take each piece of the puzzle leading up to the 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: draft and then go straight to the draft. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: You guys have been working on Rogers for a long 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: time and when it was finalized. What's the reaction to 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: the room amongst you and Joe and Nus and Jet, 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Alexander and company. 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Well, Joe had to step out of a meeting to 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: finalize some calls with it, and we were still in 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: there waiting, and so I was able to step out 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: and see him and just had this huge smile on 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: his face, and it was just like this sense of relief. 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Like we got it done. And so then just brought 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: him in. 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Man, everybody was clapping, cheering, you know, hugs and high fives, 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: and the excitement of that room was pretty cool. 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Man. 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: It was a special moment to see that after the 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: work that Joe had put into it in terms of 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: negotiations with the packers. 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: So it was a cool moment. It was really good 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: to be a part of it. 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Can you take us inside January where hey, listen, everybody 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: from a leadership perspective, starting with Woody Johnson said, hey, 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: quarterbacks been the missing piece for us, and Robert and 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: Joe articulated that, listen, we're going to be on a 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: hunt for a veteran quarterback. So can you take me 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: through the stages here going back? 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we couldn't have done it without the 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: support of Woody and Christopher right to get the okay 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: because you know, it's a huge undertaking to take that step, 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: and they were they were all awesome, incredible. 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think. 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: Adjectives describe how how we feel about what they the 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: Wy've done and given us the opportunity to do. 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: But you know, getting you know, setting. 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: That up first, and then you know, talking to the 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: coaching staff and then hiring Nathaniel Hackett and Todd downing 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: uh zach Azani, you know, adding to our offensive coaches 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: staffs and what their philosophy is going to be and 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: how that would would marry up with the available quarterbacks 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: and free agents, and you know, obviously it. 70 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: Worked out but it was cool just to go through 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: that process and to hear their individual perspectives and experiences 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: with with Aaron or other free agent qbs andve qbs. 73 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: So it was it was a meticulous process and discussions 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: and and then you know, Joe spear headed the negotiation 75 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: aspect with with the Packers and finally came to fruition, 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: like a lengthy time later. 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Obviously you guys had to get permission from the Packers 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: to go out and talk to Rogers because he's under 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: contract at that time in March. But when he goes 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: on Pat McAfee and declares his intentions that I'm going 81 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: to play in the National Football League next year and 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I want to play for the Jets, yeah, it was 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: it was wild. 84 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean you heard it here in the building. There 85 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: were probably five of us packed in my office, and 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: it was. 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: Like jubilation where like yes, yes, all right, finally finally 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: we hear those words and get to enjoy that moment. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: And then little did we know it would be five 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: to six weeks later before that all finalized. But definitely 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: worth the way. 92 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: Can you talk about your experiences in the league. You 93 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: were with the Chicago Bears for more than a decade. 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: What was it like competing against it guy? 95 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was asked that question at a press conference. 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: I think I answered with, you know, we got our 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: hearts ripped out so many times by him because what 98 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: he doeses on the field, and how any moment that 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: you know, he can throw a dart that's going to 100 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: strike and it could be six points and the guy 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: just the way he sees it field, the presence that 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: he has, the arm, talent, the consistency, how he's done 103 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: it over eighteen years. It's great to be on this 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: side of it now and see him hopefully rip some 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: hearts out of some other opponents. 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Would your report be if you had to write something 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: up by Aaron Rodgers as far as those first couple of. 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: Graps, Yeah, we were talking about it. 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: Arguably the most natural passer in the history of the game. 110 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Are one of the most natural passers in the history 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: of the game. He can change arm slots, he can 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: throw from different levels, execution from the pocket, outside the pocket, 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: if it's quick game. 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: If he has like drops, if he needs to read 115 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: the field. 116 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: He can do it all man, and still do it 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: at a high level, even at this point of his career. 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of McAfee, Peyton Manning was just on McAfee this 119 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: week and he said, I think Aaron Rodgers is going 120 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: to have success with the Jets, and he pointed to 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the familiarity with the system. How big is that because 122 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Aaron made it clear that he wanted to be here, 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: but he's also come to a spot that has an 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that he experienced a ton of success with 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: and he knows this system inside and out. Because we 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: think of Manning it, Yeah, they give him the keys 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: in Denver, but he had emerged some things there and 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: then Brady under arians that's a completely totally new system 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: as opposed. 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: To what he was doing Annoyingland. 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was huge for us because of the relationship 132 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: with Hackett and the time that they've spent together in 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Green Bay. The way Hackett understands Aaron, the way Aaron 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: understands Hackett, and what each one of them want and 135 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: how they're on the same page. And we've already been 136 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: able to see it and witness it here the last 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: couple of days that they've been on the field together, 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: and you know, with the offense and just how Aaron 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: understands it, how Hackett understands it how Aaron's able to 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 3: communicate the smallest details to each one of the guys, 141 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: and how he interacts with the guys on offense and 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: then when he'll see some guys on defense give him 143 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: some subtle and reminders of you know, how to play 144 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: whatever coverage or whatever it may be. 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: But it's really. 146 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Cool to be able to step out the practice and 147 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: see that that interaction and that just his extreme ownership 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: of the position and the offense. 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: What's he like is a guy and obviously you're not 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: his teammate, but you're watching the way he communicates with 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: those guys. One thing that struck me on draft weekend 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: was Robert was saying, this is an extraordinary person. You 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: can tell that he cares about the people around him. 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, just standing off to the side or you know, 155 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: upstairs watching you can see a unique ability to connect 156 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: and relate to everybody, whether it's it's Veto snapping the 157 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: ball to him and then he flips around and is 158 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: acting like he's rushing, rushing him as a defensive lineman. 159 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: The subtle communication that he'll have with the receivers or 160 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: tight end or offensive line and he'll slide over and 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: somebody else will be standing over on the side and talking. 162 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: The next thing you know, he's he's talking to Thomas 163 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Morstead and probably I don't know what they were talking. 164 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: About, but I'm sure it's about how many years you've 165 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: been in the league, how many what you know with 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: Thomas's you know, experience with Drew Brees, right, So I'm 167 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: sure they touched on that, but uh no, it's it's 168 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: really I mean, I can't, again loss of words. 169 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: To describe how cool it is to be able to witness. 170 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, what I've thought of a lot lately, was 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you guys hired Robert Salad January twenty twenty one, that 172 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: first training camp joint practices with the Packers. Of course 173 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Rogers on the other side at that moment, but can 174 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: you talk about the transformation of the roster. It's got 175 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: to be like plus ninety five percent since then. 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just talking to Seth about it. I 177 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: don't know the exact numbers, E, but they're significant. I mean, 178 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: with with the number of draft picks that we've had 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: over the last couple classes alone and how that that 180 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: has changed, and with the undrafted free agents that we 181 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: added in addition to the pro free agents that we've added, 182 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: there's a ton of turnover. It's just kind of the 183 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: way this day and age is is right now in 184 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: the league with the free agents and the one year 185 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: deals and so guys are moving around more frequently than 186 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: ever before. But yeah, the turnover has been huge, and 187 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: we went from being, you know, last year had a 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: significantly young team and that twenty twenty one team. As 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: we made the transition from twenty twenty and then this year, 190 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: I think we've transitioned into more balanced in terms of 191 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: the younger guys who are now in either year two 192 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: or year three, and also infusing them with the with 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: the free agents that we've added and the vet experience 194 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: and leadership that we've added on both sides of the ball. 195 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: Well, ninety five percent is probably a stretch, but it's 196 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: a ton. When you hire a new coach, a new 197 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff, you know it's going to take time. And 198 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you guys also embraced the youth process. Were you thinking 199 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: all long year three? I mean, obviously you want to 200 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: win every game, and you come out that first year 201 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: and you play young guys all over the place, win 202 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: four games. Then last year you see guys take the 203 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: next step. Almost doubled your win total. You were positioned 204 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. You probably make the postseason had 205 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: not a number of injuries occurred down the stretch. But 206 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: with that being said, uh, you know, and you've been 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: doing it for a long time, you've been part of rebuilds. 208 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: You're thinking, yeah, you knew it was going to take 209 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: some time exactly, but you never want to say the 210 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: mantra of wait till next year. 211 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody wants to win now. 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: That's the expectations for for us, that's the expectations for 213 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: the organization, that's expectations for the fan base. And we 214 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: do want to win now. We always want to win now, 215 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: and we're we're going to focus on that. But we 216 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: have to have to adapt, and you know when they're 217 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: when there's turnover in the coaching staff, whether or not 218 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: it's head coach or coordinator, there's always going to be 219 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: attrition because there's going to be a change of philosophy offensively, defensively, 220 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: whether or not if you switch a coordinator, there's gonna 221 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: be some some changes that occur. So we have to 222 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: adjust with that, and then we have to to build 223 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: and add according to those changes that we need to make, 224 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: and I think we've done a really good job of 225 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: that and how we've composed a roster and how we're 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 3: going to continue to try and build and we're always 227 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: looking to add and always looking to upgrade the. 228 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: Talent Jets fans, we're in our final push and the 229 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: clock is ticking. 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You 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: see Jeff albrick elite a defense that made it tremendously 245 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. And then offensively, you have a 246 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: coordinator who comes in with his system, who has succeeded 247 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: at the highest level with your new quarterback. So this 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: is not most of the time when you're thinking about 249 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: teams having new coordinators. This is entirely new. But you guys, 250 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: it won't be for you guys. 251 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the systems are very similar with what he's come 252 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: from Green Bay and what he used in Denver. The 253 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: terminology might be a little bit different, but the concepts 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: are very similar. And then with Todd Downing and Keith 255 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: Carter coming from Tennessee, they have ran a very similar system, 256 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: very similar style, and we're gonna help that helps and 257 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: eases the transition for everybody with the new coaching staff, 258 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: with the players who have been here and the guys 259 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: who have been in those systems before as a player 260 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: or coach coming in, and it. 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: Helps because it hopefully speeds up the process because of 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: the communication that goes on in the position rooms with 263 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: the coaches and then on the field with the players 264 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,239 Speaker 2: and their familiarity. 265 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Can we go back to last January. Obviously this is 266 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: a win business. But NFL honors. When you see Saus 267 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: Gardner grab Defensive Rookie of the Year honors, Garrett Wilson 268 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: grab Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, how much pride 269 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: did you guys take in that? And as an organization 270 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: because obviously you guys brought them in here, the scouting 271 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: staff and then the coaching staff has to help them 272 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: develop and go to the next level. 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was special, man. 274 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: Again, our it goes to our player personnel department and 275 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: the job that the college scouts do on the road, 276 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: the job that everybody else does in house with their 277 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: evaluations and the communication to identify and find the guys 278 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: that fit us like what we want with the character, 279 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: the off field and the on field performance, the guys 280 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: that we want. 281 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: It. 282 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: It was special. 283 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: It's you know, again, it's only happened three times since 284 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: I think they tracked it in nineteen seventy, So a 285 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: lot of it goes back to what we did and 286 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: how we added and yeah, not only those two guys, 287 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: but the other guys too, the way the way Breece 288 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: was performing before the injury, Jermaine Johnson and then Max 289 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: Mitchell and Michael Clemens and those guys as a group 290 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: that the performance how they over exceeded expectations was awesome. 291 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: But it again it goes back to the relationship between 292 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: player personnel and the coaching staff of Hey, this is 293 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: our vision of who we want. 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: This is a vision a type of player we want. 295 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Right, I want to talk to you about some free agents, 296 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: but since the draft just happened last weekend, thoughts on 297 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: fifteen Will McDonald. A lot of people externally like why 298 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: you guys getting another edge, But when you listen to 299 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Robert talk and Joe talk, you got some insight on 300 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: where they're thinking. From a scouting view. What do you 301 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: like most about McDonald just. 302 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: On the philosophy of it. With it, it's the O 303 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: line and D line. Those are going to be the 304 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: engines of our team on both sides of the ball. 305 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: We're always going to want to On offense, we're going 306 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: to want to protect first, and we're gonna add want 307 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: to add playmakers. On defensively, we're always gonna want to 308 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: rush and we're always gonna want to cover. So as 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: you know Joe that you know being a former offensive lineman, 310 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: he has no problem adding the offensive linement and he 311 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: knows the value the defensive alignment and the pass rush. 312 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: So really we just trusted the board. 313 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: Uh you know, we're there at fifteen with the with 314 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: the flip, and so we just let it come to us, 315 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: and we had our eye on on Will. We identified 316 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: him as a really natural pass rusher. He's got great size, 317 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: he's got great athletic ability and length for a player 318 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: of his size, and a really natural ability to trim 319 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: the edge and bend the corner as a pass rusher. 320 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna move him outside more consistently as a as 321 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: a nine technique and use him as a wide nine 322 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: and use all of his traits and kind of get 323 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: it out of his body. What when he was inside 324 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: a little pinched more as a four eye at Iowa State, 325 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: he didn't always get that that opportunity because of the alignment. 326 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: But we're excited, man, We're excited to add another wave, 327 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: another guy who is going to play a significant amount 328 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: of time and add to our. 329 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Rush and what we need. 330 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: And you know, Aaron Whitecotton loves adding that group and 331 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: having different waves as you've seen. So guys are gonna 332 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: be fighting for playing time, which is a good, good 333 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: problem to have. 334 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I made the argument that this was tied directly to Rogers, 335 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: because yes, you could say it's indirect because he's playing 336 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. But the thing 337 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that Joe Robert talked about is we anticipate we will 338 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: play fourth quarter leads next year, and we want to 339 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: get to the head of the snake, as Robert always says, 340 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: and that's the quarterback. This guy got to the quarterback 341 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: as well as anybody in this draft class. Forty two 342 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: tackles for loss, thirty fourth sacts, big ten record, and 343 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: then can you speak to how he can help you 344 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: guys close games? We see the ten force fumbles as well. 345 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously we have to get leads, and Bill Doo's 346 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: going into the fourth quarter, so hopefully we'll be able 347 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: to do that. But our philosophy is going to be 348 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: we've got to get after the quarterback. We've got to 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: get off the field in passing situations, we got to 350 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: get off the field and third down. And Will has 351 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: shown not only his ability to cause pressure to hit 352 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: the quarterback, but to make sacks. And not only that, 353 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: like you talked about, either the ten force fumbles there's 354 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: an art to that and the timing of it and 355 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: being able to locate the ball and strip it or 356 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: force it out and generate the turnovers because it gives 357 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: us another opportunity to put the ball back and aaron 358 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: in the offense's hands, and that's what we're always going 359 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: to look to do on defense. 360 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Joe Tipman, is that unique for a six foot six 361 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: guy with that reach to have the kind of feet 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: he does. 363 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, and I think that's why what led 364 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: us to taking him were those traits of Joe, because 365 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: he's typically taller than your normal center would be or 366 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: you know, the prototypical center throughout the career of the 367 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 3: NFL or time in the NFL. But Joe has a 368 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: unique ability at his size to bend and change directions, 369 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: and the way he moves and run can get in 370 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: space for what we're going to do in the run game. 371 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: Is going to be truly helpful for us. 372 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: How he moves in pass protection is another thing with 373 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: that size and the ability to move his feet and 374 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: match movement is key. 375 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: And while being able to do that at sixty six, 376 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifteen or three fifteen plus is a good, 377 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: good problem. 378 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: To have, and you got to be a good player 379 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: to wear them all like he does. Oh yeah, he's 380 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: a good player. Coming right from Wisconsin. Potentially you could 381 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: have a former Packer quarterback taking the ball from Tipman 382 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: on opening day. We'll have to see how that competition 383 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: plays out. Okay, yeah, you stick on the offensive side 384 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. Cart Warren local kid Patterson Jersey of Paterson, 385 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: New Jersey play predominantly. I guess he played solely left 386 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: tackle a pitch. But do you guys project him as as. 387 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: A swing in the night? Yeah? That was the value 388 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: of him is his ability to pass protect and being 389 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: on the left side of the ball. But he's got 390 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: size and the strength and ability to handle the right 391 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: side if we need it. Because of the past pass 392 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: protection value, it was a situation where, hey, we've got 393 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: to protect and we've got to add playmakers, and we 394 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: knew we wanted to do that, but at that point 395 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: in the draft of where the board fell and the 396 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: way offensive tackles were coming off the board, we felt 397 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: really good about the value of Carter at that point 398 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: and took him there in the fourth. 399 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: Hey, so after Friday Night concludes, do you and Joe 400 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: and the guys how often say, you know what, doing 401 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: good so far? We got to get some more picks. 402 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that and that was one of the things because 403 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: the phone didn't really ring really on day one and 404 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: day two, and there were no viable options really and 405 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: legit options for us to be to be able to 406 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: move back. And so that's why we made the picks 407 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: that we did when we did. 408 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: But but yeah. 409 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: We we even talked about it jokingly, was like, where 410 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: our phone's broken? Is there something going on with the 411 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: new phone system? And so, you know. 412 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: We talked about it that night about hey, you know, 413 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: we'd like to get some more picks and and to 414 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: do that, and we we again talked about it again 415 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: Saturday morning before the draft, and you know, we we 416 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: had a plan that if teams were calling, we'd be 417 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: open and and we were able to get those two 418 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: extra picks and felt great about it. 419 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: You guys are crushing value with the running backs in 420 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: the draft. You get Breese Hall last year in the 421 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: second round, you move up in the fifth round this 422 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: year is Euvana Khana from Pittsburgh. 423 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah are you looking are Brooklyn kid? 424 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 425 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: Exactly? 426 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: Are you shocked when he's on a board in round five. 427 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: We were shocked, Yeah, because we thought he would go 428 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: in in the at least on Friday night, he'd be 429 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: off the board by then. 430 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, probably one of the top one hundred 431 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: tight players. And so yeah, so when he's sitting there 432 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: in day three, we man, he'll he'll. 433 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: Be gone before we pick. 434 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: And then the situation unfolded with the offensive lignment and 435 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: the tackles, and so we made the move to Carter. 436 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: But then as we saw him fall down the board, 437 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: and he's such a good fit for the run game 438 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: that we want and the offensive scheme that we have 439 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: in mind, and what his he did production wise at 440 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: pit and you know with his speed when he hits 441 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: the second and third level the kids acceleration and top 442 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: end speed is awesome. So felt just like we got 443 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: a gift sitting in the fifth. 444 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: Can you speak to why he is a perfect fit 445 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: for the system. 446 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's in terms of the outside zone, you 447 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 3: want guys who who have the patience to string it 448 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: out on an outside zone once they see a crease 449 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: or once they see the whole can stick their foot 450 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: in the ground and make one cut and then accelerate 451 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: and outrun you. Know, outrun the defense and outrun the leverage, 452 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: and that's what he brings. 453 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: Roberts said after the draft, you got a lot of 454 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: guests in that running back room. 455 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: You really do. 456 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's talking about how Breesall is looking very 457 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: good on his comeback as far as what he's been 458 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: doing off season workouts. Michael Carter, you picked up Zonovan 459 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: bam Knight last year on drafted free agent. He performed 460 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: well for you. You got to strength to numbers. 461 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we feel good about it, especially after the draft 462 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: and where that room is looking, and we always want 463 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 3: to add guys with speed or unique skill sets like 464 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: Michael Carter has in terms of Michael's quickness has changed 465 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: the direction, his all three down ability, and his ability 466 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: to stop start contact balance. So he's a little bit 467 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: different than the other guys. But I think you always 468 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: want to have not only fastballs, but you want to 469 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: have an off speed pitch too. 470 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: What about the other three guys? To conclude the draft, 471 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: what jumps out at you about those guys? And gee, 472 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: talk about the freak factor as far as your last 473 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: draft back? 474 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: Sure? Sure? So yeah. 475 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Next with Zaire Barnes was a guy that our scouts 476 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: identified in terms of the traits that we talk about 477 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: that fit our defense and fit the mold of what 478 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: we want a linebacker. And Steag's went through Western Michigan 479 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: and talked about this guy and how he'd be a 480 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: great fit because we went guys with speed, toughness, instincts, 481 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: and length and Zaye hit those and we were able 482 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: to see it and see him during the fall All 483 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: Star Games and then he shows you know, he didn't 484 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: go to the Combine, which was a little shocking for us, 485 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: but we knew we were going to bring in on 486 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: a thirty visit and uh, we really enjoyed him on 487 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: a thirty visit. He was a great fit for us, 488 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: you know, defensively, great fit for us. Again with the character. 489 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: And did that help you that he didn't go to 490 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: the combine? 491 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it does. 492 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: And the next guy we're going to talk about, Jerreed 493 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: Bernard Converse, didn't go to the Combine as well, but 494 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: but tested off the charts, you know, really high level 495 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: tester in terms of his speed, explosiveness and vertical jumps 496 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: and the change the direction. So you know, when when 497 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: you're looking at those guys later on in the draft, 498 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: you want to identify, like, hey, we're some guys with 499 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: some high end traits that can offset maybe something they're 500 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: they're lacking in either experience or one area of their 501 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: their physical development, that they still have some upside And. 502 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: So Zayer still has that. JBC still has that. 503 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: And then and then Zach Kootz when getting to him 504 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: in the seventh round, very unique guy being six seven 505 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: plus two hundred and fifty pounds plus and test and 506 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: run and move the way that he did. And you know, 507 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: obviously with our tight end situation where we're at a 508 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: great point with what we have in terms of depth 509 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: and youth and vets, and at seventh round, when you 510 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: see those traits at that size, let's take a shot. 511 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: So swung the bat on on Zach and feel good 512 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: about what he's going to bring and how unique of 513 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: an athlete a his size he is. 514 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: JBC, I call him a defensive back. Are you guys 515 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: going to start them out at safety? And he's got 516 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: some nickel ability or what are you forgee? 517 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 518 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: Especially you know he's been he's been a nickel, he's 519 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: been an outside corner, he's been a safety during his 520 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: career at Oklahoma State before he went to LSU, and 521 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: LSU like to move their guys around and that showed 522 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: the position versatility that we like. You know, we we 523 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: have guys on on third down at free safety. We 524 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: want to roll down and play playing that big nickel 525 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: role and match up whether or not it's a tight 526 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: end or a slot receiver. And they're added value of 527 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: being a previous outside corner who demonstrated the ability to 528 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 3: play man coverage like he has was was a no 529 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: brainer force at that point into the draft with his versatility. 530 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Can you talk we're talking about value Chuck Clark seventh 531 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty four. Can you talk about 532 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: the process of acquiring him? 533 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we had we had heard in communications 534 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: that that he was was coming available, and you know, 535 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: I can't remember the total number of games he started. 536 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: I don't think he's missed a snap in the last 537 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: three games. 538 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: So he's been an iron man for him, right, And 539 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: a lot of us had gone through Virginia Tech when 540 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: he was when he was there and coming out and 541 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: the you know, Chad's experience with being being there at 542 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: Baltimore and knowing how the guy is wired and what 543 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: he brings from a leadership, what he brings on the field, 544 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: he's a great fit for US. Man to tag him 545 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: up with with Jordan Whitehead and Tony Adams and Ashton 546 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: Davis and Will Parks. 547 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: It was. It was great for. 548 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: Us and tangible's off the charts absolutely And like you 549 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the durability they draft Hamilton last year signed Marcus 550 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Williams of free agency, Chuck Clark was never off the. 551 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Field, No, No, he still had a great role for 552 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: him man and and play made a lot and was 553 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: a great teammate. And that's all we had heard. 554 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: Like, this guy's a consummate teammate, he's got a leadership, 555 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: and he's a real dude at the end of the day, 556 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: like on the field and off the field. And that 557 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: holds weight when when you hear that about a guy 558 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: and what he's going to bring and add for the 559 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: substance of a of a locker room in a position room. 560 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: You mentioned, that's one of the guys he told me 561 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: to watch out for last year as far as undrafted 562 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: free agents are concerned, What do you think about him 563 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: in year one and what his future might look like. 564 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just worked his butt off from day one 565 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: and he had had a mission to come in and 566 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: take somebody's job, and not only that. 567 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: But to develop each day. And Ta does it the 568 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: right way. 569 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: Man. 570 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: He's been here all the time in the off season. 571 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: The guy's as diligent in as daily approach on the 572 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: field and off the field. And he's he's showing what 573 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: when you have talent and an overachieving mindset, how you 574 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: can break through the glass of whatever your ceiling is 575 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: or whatever you're projected. And yeah, I give just whatever 576 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: kudos to Ta or whatever you want to say. Man, 577 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: that guy he's earned every bit of it. 578 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: Love it. 579 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: You've worked with a ton of coaches in your tenure 580 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Hecket's unique, isn't he? 581 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 582 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: And has he been fun for you guys to work 583 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: with as far as what he likes, his system, his 584 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: flexibility in the way he approaches everything. 585 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he keeps it light, man, it's great. The banter 586 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: of movie quotes to go back and forth with him, 587 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 3: we're awesome. And he's got a huge appreciation for. 588 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: It like we all do. So that keeps it light. 589 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 3: But he just got a great ability to you know, 590 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: how Aaron connects. He's got a way to connect with guys, 591 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: connect with the staff, and he's connected with us and 592 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: player personnel and about what his vision is for players 593 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: and what fits and what works. So it's great man 594 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: and he comes in with a big smile on his face, 595 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: and he's always got a one liner, a joke to crack, 596 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: and players are talking about it too, and how his 597 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: personality shines through in their meetings with him. 598 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: I was talking to him about this the other day, 599 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: but how valuable it can not only Rogers be on 600 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: the field, but some of these recent acquisitions, whether it 601 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: be Tim Boyle in the quarterback room or Billy Turner 602 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: up front, or Alan Lazard in the receiver room and 603 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: now Randall Cobb as well. 604 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it's that familiarity that they have with the system, 605 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: the familiarity with Aaron, the way they've done things in 606 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: Green Bay or Denver, with Billy being there in Denver 607 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: with Hackett. So it's great because they can give them 608 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: all the tidbits of or the terminology difference. So one 609 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: of the receivers was giving me, like talking about how 610 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: Tim Boyle the first day he was out there, he 611 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no, this is what you guys 612 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: had last year because he's been in both systems, and 613 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: he was like. 614 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: No, this is what it is and correlated it to 615 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: him and they were like, oh yeah. 616 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: And then they go into the position room afterwards, and 617 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: so Hackett was de tailing it and I guess he 618 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: looked back and they were like, man, he's spot on. 619 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah he knew. 620 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: He knew exactly how Hackett wanted to say it, and 621 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: what how the conversion terminology? 622 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: Why is what it meant? So it's cool just to 623 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: give a little insight on the value. 624 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: But I love that you came close to getting a 625 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: ring in Chicago. Yeah, close, lost title gave him Manning 626 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: actually getting back getting back. 627 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: To Peyton Manning. 628 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: Have you thought looking at this roster? I know you 629 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: guys take it a day at a time and transaction 630 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: at time. What what potentially this team could be? 631 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you always try and stay in the moment of like, hey, 632 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: what's what's our next step, What's what do we need 633 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: to do that this day? 634 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: What do we need to do this next week? 635 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: And and look just for a farther enough ahead to 636 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: keep it like logical without without changing your expectations. 637 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's there, It's there. In the distance. 638 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: So I think if you focus on what we're doing 639 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: day to day, week to week, month to month, that 640 00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: that will. 641 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Take care of itself. The first season. 642 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: The first thing Joe Douglas said when he was hired 643 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: as GM, and he said, I want to create the 644 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: best culture or professional sports. When you walk around these 645 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: offices every day or you go out there on the field, 646 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: is there that sense that, hey, listen, we got something 647 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: building here and it could be very special. 648 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and guys who came in on free agent visits, 649 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: who who didn't sign here would would communicate about, man, 650 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: that that place it's different. It's not the same old Jets, 651 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: which you know, you get tired of hearing that, but yeah, 652 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: it's not. 653 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: It's not. Man. 654 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: You step into this building, you feel the energy and 655 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: the excitement of what the team has and the relationships 656 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: that are that are developing in all levels of the building. 657 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: That translates to the field. 658 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: And that's when when you're around teams that that have 659 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: that and that connection, those relationships, that when that's when 660 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: it grows and that's when it builds, and that's when 661 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: when you get the product on the field that you want. 662 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: All Right, this is cool. You got a vacation plan 663 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 1: for a June post a veteran. 664 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll just let Christy tell me which where 665 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: we're going for youth sports throughout the summer. So you know, 666 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: between my daughter McKenna and her sports, and my son 667 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: Ryan and my daughter Aaron, there's some weekends where we 668 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: just all all three we'll go different directions, so just. 669 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: With the sports. 670 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: So we've built our summer vacations around youth sports so 671 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: to speak. 672 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: So well, you're loving that. And also one judge drive, 673 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: we can see the dogs again this year. 674 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: We don't know nash Knock's doing great, man, They're just 675 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: they're wrecking shop, tearing up the yard, tearing up the house. 676 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: So Christy does a good job of keeping them in line. 677 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: But they're they're fun, man. I would love to get 678 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: the dogs back on there. 679 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: They're grown, they're huge, They're they're again wrecking shopping, chasing 680 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: cars and chasing people in. 681 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: The front yard. 682 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Sounds good, Thanks, brother, appreciate it.