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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: I got you stuck off the realness. We be the

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Speaker 2: infamous you heard of us, official Queensbridge murderers. The mob

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Speaker 2: comes equipped for warfare. Beware of my crime family, who

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Speaker 2: got enough shots to share for all those who want

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Speaker 2: your brain with your nosebone. You all alone in these streets,

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Speaker 2: cousin every man for they self fished land. We be

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Speaker 2: gunning and keep the shug crews running like they supposed to.

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Speaker 2: They come around, but they never come close to I

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Speaker 2: could see it inside your face. She in the wrong place,

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Speaker 2: cow was like, you could get their whole body laced

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Speaker 2: up with bullet holes and such. Speak the wrong words, man,

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Speaker 2: and you will get touched. You could put your whole

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Speaker 2: army against my team, and I guarantee you it'll be

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Speaker 2: your very last time breathing. Hey, welcome to the Black

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Speaker 2: Autils podcast. Your host Rod, and we're in the house

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Speaker 2: on a Monday. I think maybe Supergirl comes back for

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Speaker 2: real this time. I hope. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know everything. A'm I supposed to be? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but uh ages a shield back and like it's literally

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Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is a bullet ball

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Speaker 2: extreme Uh. And of course we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff to talk about and get into. Let me just

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Speaker 2: tell you all this real. Randomly, send your girls some

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Speaker 2: flowers at work today. Okay, do it, because that bitch

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Speaker 2: that don't like her at work, she ain't getting no

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Speaker 2: That bitch is Monday off horrible. Make her week be terrible, Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I was just mad at you. When you're getting flowers,

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Speaker 2: somebody let them know even if they don't value her.

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Speaker 2: That company, that's somebody outside. And I'll say, send it

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Speaker 2: to the job. Okay, I don't mean don't don't have

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Speaker 2: the flowers for when she gets home. Don't you know,

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Speaker 2: do the flowers? Uh you know at lunch? No, send

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Speaker 2: them to the job. So they got to put it

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Speaker 2: who's sitting those Oh what happened? Is something happened? Like

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Speaker 2: just nope, nothing, I'm loved unlike the rest of you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Ah, y'all judging me every day?

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Speaker 2: Mad because I listen to my headphones. Now look at

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Speaker 2: you over here, mad and alone and jealous. You gotta

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Speaker 2: do it, guys, all right, the right, Thank you baby,

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Speaker 2: No problem. All right, Let's talk about all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy star Jesse Williams and his wife Aaron Drake

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Speaker 2: you know Jesse, and I know his dms are probably

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Speaker 2: he woke, he light skin. They're handsome and uh, well spoken,

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Speaker 2: he got a job, you know, I don't you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have kids and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's I mean, it's it's one of

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Speaker 2: those things I think people when you hear about something

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Speaker 2: I just remember Jesse Williams's wife being like so many

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Speaker 2: people's like, oh, you know, like because he had a

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because a brother that's woke and got a

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Speaker 2: almost a year. They were married September twenty twelve. We

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Speaker 2: the ebroji app Oh she Gonna Be Reached Forever, which

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Speaker 2: to everybody involved in that. Man. They mentioned kids in there,

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Speaker 2: not an article. Let's see what else happened. A smuggler

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Speaker 2: got caught with six vows of human seemen. He was

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Speaker 2: trying to sneak the laos to be used by surrogate mothers,

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Speaker 2: thing a dozen times.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Seemen smuggling care.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm yep, okay, so.

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Speaker 3: When when we get pregnant? Man, I'm just confused.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys seen, you know, smuggling that semen

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Speaker 2: Nyhan On, I don't know how to pronounce this, lasing

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Speaker 2: that's right. Twenty five was traveling to Laos when he

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Speaker 2: Can got keep it on ice? Don't just thy your

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Speaker 3: What is this the sock? I mean I guess, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess since she she nobody, you don't want it fresh?

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Speaker 2: Uh. He admitted doing the same thing a dozen times

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Speaker 2: which is one hundred and thirteen pounds, on each occasion.

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Speaker 2: He was trying to make take the fluids to a

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Speaker 2: Kai checkpoint between northern Thailand and neighboring Laos. Nithanod was

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Speaker 2: fined two hundred thousand taied bats for smuggling for being

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Speaker 2: said during investigation, Nithanon said he was hired to carry

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Speaker 2: He said it came from four clinics in Bangkok. I

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Speaker 2: mean they was banging some cocks, all right, and he

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Speaker 2: had done it twelve times. Before the tanking vals have

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Speaker 3: How's this even center? What's happening here?

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Speaker 2: For inspection with test results expected on Monday. If the

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Speaker 2: up the three years in prison for violating the surrogacy

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Speaker 2: law wage for business smuggling the semen. Damn, they got

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Speaker 2: a law on it. This just having a lot for.

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Speaker 3: Them to have a law for him to even tip that.

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Speaker 3: It got to be a money behind it, because people

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Speaker 2: Man, that's wild. It's difficult to find seamen. You know.

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Speaker 2: I've been giving it away my whole life. I just

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Speaker 2: didn't know it all. Didn't know about the market value.

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Speaker 2: I guess the price of the brick just went up.

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Speaker 2: Care Yeah, run my coin.

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Speaker 3: The price of the seamen, not the tool. That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: When women go, they gonna give me the seaman. You

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Speaker 2: Good point. All right. Let's see uh revealed finally through science, guys,

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Speaker 2: we know how to pick out the cleanest cubicle in

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Speaker 2: But don't you want to know how to pick out

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Speaker 2: the cleanest one? You gotta use the bathroom, but you

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Speaker 3: Okay, the most use? It depends the setup in the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Using a public toilet can be an unpleasant experience. The

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Speaker 2: til the final moment. Fortunately, a doctor has now revealed

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Speaker 2: which cubic is likely to be the cleanest in any toilet,

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Speaker 2: whether it's in the theater, foyer or an airport terminal.

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Speaker 2: shared this theory in response to a question on medical

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Speaker 2: advice forum Sharecare. Doctor os is playing that most toilet

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Speaker 2: users tend to skip the first doll in favor of

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Speaker 2: the ones further away from the door because they want

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Speaker 2: dollars often the least use, it contains the lowest bacteria levels.

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Speaker 2: Instead of skipping the first doll choose it to help

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Speaker 2: avoid possible infections. However, scientific research at Lives by New

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Speaker 2: a mistake. That's the opposite the tick tack toe. When

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Speaker 2: so you want to go outside of that. I think

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Speaker 2: Let's see what else happened. A decorated Navy Seal has

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Speaker 2: been moonlighting as a porn star. Oh Navy Chief Special

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Speaker 2: Welfare Warfare Operator Joseph John Schmidt the Third has been

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Speaker 2: living dual lives as a member the Navy Seals. The

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Speaker 2: forty two year old boast a chest of ribbons and

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Speaker 2: and Coronado shipmates. He's been the married father who has

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Speaker 2: given pep talks to a special needs children, to special

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Speaker 2: for the elite Naval Special Welfare Warfare Teams I can't

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Speaker 2: even serving as the face of the Cell program on

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Speaker 2: its website. Schmidt is also Jayvoon, the actor in at

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Speaker 2: least twenty nine porn flicks during the past seven years,

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Speaker 2: from Apple Smashing Lap Dance to Strippers Come Home Horny

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Speaker 2: from the Club. Porn titles have totally changed since we

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Speaker 2: got the Internet. Now it's just a description appens in

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Speaker 2: the scene. Used to add the guests. There used to

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Speaker 2: be some art to it. Sugar walls ninety five? What

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Speaker 2: is that? E your mean? What is sugar walls? Snap back?

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Speaker 2: Puts it thirty seven? Snapped it just to push his

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Speaker 2: snap back? Do you come?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Now now it's just straight up like dad comes home

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Speaker 3: But the sad part about it is that I don't

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Speaker 2: because you just you never know, really, Peter activists crash

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Speaker 3: Can ooh you know what? And and and y'all have

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Speaker 2: So you don't refer I don't give fuck Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently she was promoting her new book, WOA Baby,

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Speaker 2: argue with foods, not a rolling nose, not today, security,

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Speaker 2: either got paid or if it got a freebie, only

432
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Speaker 2: using hashtag sp instead of hashtag sponsor you using just

433
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: partner saying thanks at brand, so thanks at NIP and

434
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Speaker 2: fab for these pads. Hashtag ad at CIVS pharmacy at

435
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Speaker 2: MS rohodral at nipping hashtag nipping fab and that's m

436
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Speaker 2: rida or whatever. So yeah, the FCC is careful to

437
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: say that it doesn't have specific wording requirements. If you

438
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: use hashtag sp you're not going to jail immediately. But

439
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: let's say there's a good chance that this is now

440
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: with the FDC considers the fluor transparent disclosure to your

441
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: audience of a material connection between you and a brand.

442
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: The idea that here is that a normal person should

443
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Speaker 2: be able to immediately understand someone was paid. That includes

444
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: getting free shited to post. I've been doing a column

445
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: for BuzzFeed where I investigate whether very celebrity and social

446
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: media posts or ads or not. And one thing that's

447
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: clear is that even those of us who are pretty

448
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: savvy about this kind of stuff are often truly confused

449
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: about celebrity Instagram posts.

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

451
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: I can imagine. You know that's weird too, because sometimes,

452
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean, we're kind of celebrities to a certain extent,

453
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: and sometimes I don't even think like if like today

454
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: I got have my socks from Luke Crate that had

455
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: the ages of shield Hydra logo and the shield logo

456
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: on the socks and out before I went on Instagram

457
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: Live and was like about to go ball on these

458
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Speaker 2: niggas hell Hydra, and I didn't even think about like,

459
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I guess somebody could view that as look

460
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: at this advertisement or whatever. So I don't know, just

461
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: something to think about, I guess.

462
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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be interesting because that's how funny when

463
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: they come in and crack down a lot of shit

464
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: is so they can find you and make money. So

465
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: it's like they're gonna they gonna you wonder, what if

466
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: the world ain't gonna be how they're gonna filter it,

467
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, because they don't show up on this it's

468
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: some way to make money, not try funny money off

469
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Speaker 3: of it. Like I said, maybe it's just me, but

470
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: I just assume a lot of people get get shipped

471
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: for free, which everybody else does. And y'all didn't sit. No,

472
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: they didn't really set any rules regulations for Hey, this

473
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: is the makeup my makeup brand, and people do it

474
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 3: all the time for that the make up for their

475
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: own personal lines.

476
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: Right, so now I.

477
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: Got to sponsor, uh, sponsor my own personal lines. I

478
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: can't just be like, look this is some shit that

479
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: I like, and it is my ship, my own hair products,

480
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: my own makeup, my own nail polish.

481
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

482
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Speaker 3: I mean because I said, when they come to them,

483
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: you don't know where they're gonna draw their lines and

484
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: what they're gonna dig into.

485
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: That's true.

486
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Speaker 3: I don't, you know, because sometimes people ain't always telling

487
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: shit for other people.

488
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Let's see what else. Oh,

489
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: this is uh something I thought was obvious. But maybe

490
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: you guys don't know. But if you been eating at

491
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: your desk, your cuemates may be seaving. That's right, guys,

492
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: people in your office might not like that you eat

493
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: at your desk.

494
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I don't care.

495
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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I missed about working in the offices.

496
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: I used to like to bring in fish and just

497
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: warm it up in the microwave. And now that's how

498
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: you gets just leaving in there for a few minutes

499
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: and just throw it in the trash.

500
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't care. I used to be concent. I

501
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: give zero fucks, But I feel like picking up something

502
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: coming to here, I sit it down, eat it, sip

503
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: my sit my chicken flu lane, keep it pushing. I

504
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: give zero fucks, because you know what, when y'all come

505
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: in and PLoP your ass down, you don't ask me

506
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: for knowhing. Fuck you.

507
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: I like to just go to other people's part of

508
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: the office, in a different department and go in their

509
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: breakthrough and just set the microwave to five minutes with

510
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: some popcorn and just.

511
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: Walk out and vernon.

512
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: Yep, let's keep it, keep it spiced up around here.

513
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Guys keep everybody on their toes. Yeah, but apparently there's

514
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: some things that bother some people, according to this Gallop.

515
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Speaker 3: Pole, because most of those childish.

516
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Sixty seven cent of American office workers eat it that

517
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: desk with it once a week, it's a growing phenomenon.

518
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety, more than half of Americans took at

519
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: least thirty minutes away from their workstations at lunch time,

520
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: and number that is decline considerably according to Gallop. Are

521
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: you guilty of some of these behaviors chewing and lip smacking?

522
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: One of the pesky office baits was a former boss

523
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: of Mind. One of his irksome habits eating with his

524
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: mouth open. Yeah, chewing with your mouth open. I'm sure

525
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: that pisces people off. I don't have on headphones, so

526
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to tell anyway me either. Yeah,

527
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: sometow I feel like people don't have headphones in their

528
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: jobs just so they could be annoyed. I'm like, nigga,

529
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: you put some headphones on, I don't want to talk

530
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: to you about this either, Come.

531
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: On, dog. And that's really made me mad when jobs

532
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: try to band headphones. You was like, nigga, studies and

533
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: assistants show that people are more or they could get

534
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: more shit done when they're not distracted, and that kind

535
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: of funny. And maybe this is my boys, if you

536
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: don't wear headphones at work, I assume you're fucking nosy.

537
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: I just assume your nose. If you don't wear headphones,

538
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: you're just fucking nosy. My pinion.

539
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand that. I think, Yeah, sometime I

540
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: just feel like you just want to be in people business.

541
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: Right, and you want to hear everything and you drop

542
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: on everybody's conversation and things like that. I said, for

543
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: for uh people that work in cube, because it could

544
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: be something else, because you know, we're quote unquote all

545
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: supposed to be adults, but most people, most grown adults

546
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: are not adults. When it comes to like the working environment.

547
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

548
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I put like this, as long as your

549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: shit not directly affecting me, I just keep it pushing.

550
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Yep. Uh.

551
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: Smelly food now yeah, not that is understandable.

552
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Now, who the signe?

553
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: What?

554
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: Smelly?

555
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: Though?

556
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: That's true too now, you.

557
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: Know, Like I like, I remember I remember choking on

558
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: family guy American dad. They talked about like, oh yeah,

559
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: it's like the dude that always warms up foreign food

560
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: in the microwave. And I'm like, I wonder if, like

561
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: if I worked in India and I warmed up a

562
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: cheeseburg in the microwave, they'd be like, what the fuck

563
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: is that? Who is cooking cheeseburgers in here?

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: You know?

565
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't eat that bullshit? You know what I'm saying,

566
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Like I wanted to. You know, there's like a place

567
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: on Earth where they're like lasagna, h put some fish

568
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: back in the like a way. This is terrible. I

569
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna throw up. I think I'm gonna throw

570
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: up pizza.

571
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: And it might be a cultural thing, you know, a

572
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: particular hand in America, you know, because you got the

573
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: Americans not trying funny when you start talking about them

574
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: quote unquote, you know how it's been racist. A lot

575
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: of white folks talk about them other people food, you know,

576
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Indian and Asian type of foods and shit like that.

577
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: You know, they get the acting motherfucking food up in there,

578
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: about the smells.

579
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, hygiene, slurping and other noises, you know, rattle

580
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: in paper bags, bringing chips, slurping down your drinkswing ice,

581
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.

582
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.

583
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: So it's one of the things too. And like you

584
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: said beginning an article, for a lot of jobs, it's

585
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: so much to do a lot of times they underpand

586
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: overwork people that a lot of people actually don't take

587
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: breaks like they should. Like they don't take their fifteens,

588
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: they don't take their thirties, they don't take their I like,

589
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: I actually leave my desk for my out. I don't

590
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: sit up my desk. I'm on break, I'm gonna break.

591
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Don't ask me about shit, don't bother me. I actually

592
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: physically get up and leave whatever. If I don't do that,

593
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: So they actually take their breaks, and they actually they

594
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: lunch at their desk.

595
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Plus I mean people's desk getting nasty and stuff.

596
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: They don't clean off they desk after they eat. You know,

597
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: you eat all these meals at your desk and you

598
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: just wipe it off with a napkin or some shit,

599
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: But you got a deep clean some of this stuff. Man,

600
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: keyboard be looking like bacteria city, and shit, that's got

601
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: four hundred times more bacteria than toilet seats, which is gross.

602
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: Breadcrumbs scattered all over file, sticky keyboards, yuck. It can

603
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: attract bugs. I remember I saw a dude that have

604
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: antswer this desk one time. It freaked me the fuck out.

605
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: It's like, what have you been doing to make ants

606
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: come to your desk at dog right?

607
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: How they find you?

608
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Don't kitchen craziness cover your food when you heat it up. Yeah,

609
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: that's the worse. When people have no respect for public

610
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: and shared microwaves and ship you open up the microwaves,

611
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: just fucking pizza sauce everywhere. You're like, who who boiled

612
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: soup in the microwave? Don't you know that this is

613
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: not a good look? But it's true. People do that shit.

614
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: Uh, it's public, so they don't be a lot of

615
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: people don't give a fuck about it. It's publicly shared.

616
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: Yep. But I just thought that was an interesting little

617
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: list to uh to run through. All right, let's see

618
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: what else is happening. Uh, men are committing sexual assault

619
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: by stealthy. Okay, so I had never heard of this before.

620
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: You mean, like like the stealth and the movies where

621
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: you're going clear undercover.

622
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: No, it's not that.

623
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

624
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: There's a new study that sploids the phenomenon of stealthy,

625
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: which is the practice of non consensually removing a condom

626
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: during sex, giving a name to enact many people have

627
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: experienced as extremely violating but may not have had the

628
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: words articulat or explain. The study argues that stealthy is

629
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: an act of gender based violence and likely violates several

630
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: civil and criminal laws. The study, yes, can right, that's see,

631
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: that's the thing, right people, She.

632
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: Said yes, which is fine, But she said yes with

633
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: the motherfucking condom. Now for condom breaks or something like that.

634
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: I trying to find that's a whole nother story. But

635
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: if you remove it and she doesn't know because most

636
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: of these I'm probably sure men do it demand but

637
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: let's keep it real, and most time it's men doing

638
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: it to motherfucking women's goddamn rape. She did not consent

639
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: to being having sex raw. If she did, cool, but

640
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: if she didn't know, No, you can't change the times

641
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: because you fucking felt like it.

642
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. I don't even know how that's a debate,

643
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: but well I know I was the debate. Men don't

644
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: want to seed any ground to the shit, and many

645
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: men participate in this. There's like online communities built around it.

646
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: There's people Reddit threads and shit like that with it. Yeah.

647
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: The study by Alexander Brodsky from the Columbia Georgian Journal

648
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: of Gender and Law is an important addition to the

649
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: literature and conversation about how we define sexual assault, sexual violence,

650
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: and rate both colloquially and legally. She interviewed survivors of

651
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: stealthy while also researching the online communities and spaces that

652
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: advocate for the practice. That advocate for the practice online

653
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: communities and spaces that advocate for the practice. This is

654
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: a very important distinction that I'm making right now, because

655
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: it's gonna come back up in a second. Unsurprisingly, these

656
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: communities consist of men, both gay and strait, who believe

657
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: that they have a right to spread their seed and

658
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: who root their support for stealthy in the ideology of

659
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: male supremacy, in which violence is a man's natural right.

660
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: Brosky told the Huffing and Posts, Here's why that's important

661
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: because right now they're men listening to this. There were

662
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: a couple of them on my Facebook page. I had

663
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: to fucking warn and they're thinking, but what about when

664
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: women poke holes and condoms and stuff like that? One,

665
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: why did you try to turn it and make the

666
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: focus about men? And when I put something up that says, yo,

667
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: these cops shot are unarmed black men, y'all don't come

668
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: through my threads and be like, well, what about when

669
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: black people shoot the cops? Y'all? Never say that? Shit?

670
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Why cause you realize how insensitive and stupid that is. Two,

671
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: it's not the topic and it's not the same. It's

672
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: not the fucking same. Okay, so already you got that problem. Two,

673
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: you also want to make this false ultimatum or this

674
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: like we have to talk about both these issues at

675
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: the same time, as if they're both equally important. Know

676
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: the fuck they aren't. One happens a lot less than

677
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: the other, and one is you know, and the other

678
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: thing is one of it. In the power structure, is

679
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: men who are this this uh uh, this non oppressed,

680
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: non marginalized group doing this shit to an oppressed marginalized group.

681
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: So you're dealing with women who often have their issues

682
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: of uh of like birth and for like challenge. You

683
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: have issues of abortion challenge, issues of consent challenge.

684
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

685
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: You know the idea that most most women are gonna

686
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: be the people who are victimized and sexual assaults and

687
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So this isn't about trying to assert

688
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: that there's no men that ever have problems. We ain't

689
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: talking about your ass right now, and you will deal.

690
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: It will be okay. You know when we talk about

691
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: sexual assault, there's always that person has to be like, well,

692
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 2: so you know, men get sexual sault it too. We're

693
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: not saying they don't, no one, no one's You just

694
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: want to derail the present conversation. You don't want to

695
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: have that conversation. You want to skip to the point

696
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: where can we get back to talking about men because

697
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: we don't talk about men enough in this country. Men

698
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: just don't have a platform enough guys. Same thing with

699
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: fucking with violence. Some dude email me last week when

700
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: we talked about the violence against women. I didn't even

701
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: dignify I responding on the show, because honestly, it felt

702
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: like a loaded question. I know, he says, we emailed

703
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: back and forth, we said it wasn't, but it felt

704
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: like a loaded question to me because he asked, basically, well,

705
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: how you feel about women hit men? Well, I guess

706
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: that's okay. Then a shit, just beat I mean, hey,

707
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: you gotta beat a man, just beat his ass. I

708
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck what he did. I don't care

709
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: if he's anything. He ain't got your food ready? Like,

710
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: why would you think I would be okay with anyone

711
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: having non consensual violence in the household between an especially

712
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: in a romantic relationship or partnership. But it's just that

713
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: idea of can we switch the topic to men? That's

714
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: really all it's about. No, we can't. When that article

715
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: comes up, we'll read that fucking article. But for this one,

716
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I would like to stick to the fucking topic at hand,

717
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: because even when it comes to that shit where oh

718
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: women Pokos and Connors and shit, which she's a phenomenon

719
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: that while I'm certain some people have done it, I

720
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: can never be sure how much that's real you are?

721
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: You know, most don't because most women don't want the problem.

722
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: Well not just that, but like some like there's also

723
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: an impetus for men to there's an incentive for men

724
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: to actually lie. In that case, there is an incentive

725
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: for men to lie. Many cas to be like I

726
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: don't want to take care of a kid. You know.

727
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: I knew a story of a dude that told my

728
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: dad that, uh, yeah, I had sex with this woman

729
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: and then she took a straw, stuck it up over her,

730
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: stuck it from her mouth intoever Johnny pushed the sperm

731
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: mount and my dad was like, so that's why I

732
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: can't pay you in the check, because you can't have

733
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: a bank account because you've been dodging child support for

734
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: sixteen years or whatever the fuck? Like what that's all

735
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: you need? Like honestly, your sold story, you know, like

736
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: it just don't sound. It ain't adding up, bro, it

737
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: ain't adding up. But yeah, it's that type of shit

738
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: that I find to be ridiculous and very frustrated man

739
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: to do dues. At least two dudes came through, if

740
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: not three came to and tried to turn it into

741
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: a but what about this fuck that talk about that

742
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: on a different time, this ain't your time, This isn't

743
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: your shine, this isn't your spotlight. God, I hate that shit, man, Cause,

744
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: like I said, we definitely get frustrated when white people

745
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: do that shit, when white people do that shit, when

746
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: we talking about some black shit, like, yo, did you

747
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: see this hate crime? And they well, you know, sometimes

748
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: black people do hate crimes white people. Every last one

749
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: of us be looking at them like, if you don't

750
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: get the fuck I mean, like, y'all, okay, when a

751
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: black person hit somebody because they're white, Well, no, normally,

752
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: but you're about to experience it if you don't get

753
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here, you know what I mean.

754
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was very disrespectful and stupid and predictably bad,

755
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: and male fragility was all over the place. Just you

756
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: gotta stop being so fucking sensitive and trying to put

757
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: yourself in the fucking middle in the center of every story.

758
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: Some shit just ain't for us, and sometimes it's time

759
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: to listen, and sometimes it's just time to be like, oh,

760
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: this is a problem. I'm not standing in your way,

761
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do tick for tat, like

762
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: what about this? Okay, we can talk about the other

763
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: thing when it comes up that that that that's a

764
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: fair back. But if you only bring that ship up

765
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 2: in response to the fact that we're talking about something

766
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: that makes you uncomfortable, you are part of the fucking problem.

767
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: And you sound like one of these people that does

768
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: this ship And then and even the fact that be

769
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 2: callously academic in the face of a very I'm sure

770
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: a terrifying idea and terrifying thing. Yeah, it's it's fucked

771
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: up and sick.

772
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're gonna get mad, like when you

773
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: a fucking rapist, Why are you defending this, because you're

774
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: defending the bullshit right right.

775
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: It's that thing. It's I'm not defending it, but you

776
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: are derailing the conversation, which isn't fruitful either. No, it's like,

777
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: we can't have this conversation to we had this other one.

778
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: What about the men that have falsely accused of rape,

779
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: Like those people, we're like, well, that's a very small percentage,

780
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: but there's a very real problem of women being raped.

781
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's okay for these guys. I don't

782
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: want to anybody go to jail for a rape they

783
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: didn't commit. But at the same time, you're saying this

784
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: so that the ultimate conclusion will be that's why we

785
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: need to stop believing women you don't want to have.

786
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: You don't have the ball to come out and say

787
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: that shit, so you couch it in this, like, yeah,

788
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: but what about I knew a guy that you know?

789
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: You couch it in everything but the fucking topic at hand.

790
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: Learn how to have a discussion where you discuss the

791
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: topic at hand. Bring up your shit on your own time. Anyway.

792
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: For survivors of STEALTHIAN, they may experience many of the

793
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: same traumatic effects of other survivors of sexual violence do,

794
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: but because STEALTHA is not clearly defined the sexual assault,

795
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: they may feel confused as to why they're feeling that way.

796
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: Not having the language to explain what happened can also

797
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 2: make it harder to seek support for the trauma. Keep

798
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: in mind, we're talking about condor's being removed, You're dealing

799
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: with pregnancies, you're dealing with STDs. People could be playing

800
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: with your mother fucking life, and you know, if they

801
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: do it to you, you ain't special. They probably try

802
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: to do it to everybody like this isn't about and

803
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: the fact that they the mentality behind it is the

804
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: dangerous parts. I am entitled to your body despite the

805
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: fact that you agree to consensual protected sex. I, as

806
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: a man, am entitled to quote unquote spread my seed

807
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: and you have to deal with it. Is fucking sick.

808
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Wiki leaks Julian Nassange. This is what he's accused of.

809
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: He's accused by multiple women of tampering with or not

810
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: essentially removing the condom during sex. That dude won't come

811
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: back to the United States. Mster transparency. Mister, your government

812
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: is doing you dirty.

813
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

814
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: Nigga can't come back. Uh. The UK officials determined that

815
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: there was probably cause for him to be extradited to

816
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Sweden to face rape charges. On top of the shame

817
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: confusion the trauma that survivors of stealthy must deal with,

818
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: they also face all the potential consequences of unprotected sex,

819
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: like pregnancy and STIs. One survivor in the study called

820
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: the act of stealth and rape adjacent. Adding to the

821
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: feelings of shame and confusion can be the fact that

822
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: the offense was perpetrated by someone the person had begun

823
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: having consensual sex with, So the violation occurs in the

824
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: situation where at some level of trust that has been

825
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: established and abused. This is consistent with the statistics regarding

826
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: rape in general. The majority of rape seven and ten

827
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: coordinate rai NN are perpetrated by someone known to the survivor.

828
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: In the sexual and domestic violence fields, advocates already have

829
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: a name for this type of violence, reproductive coercion. The

830
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: American Congress of Obstetrician and Gynecologists defined reproductive coercion as

831
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: a behavior that includes explicit attempts to impregnate a partner

832
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: against her will, control outcomes of pregnancy, coercial problem a

833
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: partner to have unprotected sex, and interfere with contraceptive methods.

834
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: This kind of violence often happens within abusive relationships, and

835
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: there's another way that abusive partners attempt to gang control

836
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: over their partners. The challenge with this kind of sexual violence, however,

837
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: is how difficult it can be to prosecute. There's another

838
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: reason I don't want to hear men try to come

839
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: in and change the fucking conversation, because what we're talking

840
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: about already has to be damn near impossible to go

841
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: to court and get and prove your you were right,

842
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: And who knows what kind of slap on the wrist

843
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: punishment they're given out for this shit. Who knows? You know, Like,

844
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: that's the thing. How do you prove somebody legit like

845
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: it's your word against theirs? In many cases they can

846
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: lie all common bro, people don't keep that kind of

847
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: evidence and shit like it. It's so much shit to it, man, Like,

848
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: how do you you would have to prove You would

849
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: probably have to catch them red handed saying something recorded

850
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: or it's in electronic like texting or some type of

851
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: communication to get a court of law to actually consider

852
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: the fact that this person did this on purpose. You know,

853
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, it's fucked up, man. I don't even

854
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: know how you can how you can prosecute it. The

855
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: element of yeah, he says, the majority of rapes aren't

856
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: prosecuted for many the same reasons. The element of he said,

857
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: she said makes the burden proof impossibly how in many cases,

858
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: but also because there's no clear legal statute that addresses

859
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: the act of stealth condo removal. For the record, this

860
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: is the part is that I'm just gonna cut off

861
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: at the past. That's gonna uh, I hate to be

862
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: right type of thing. If and when laws are passed

863
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 2: specifically against this. What you will have is a backlash

864
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: of a lot of people who didn't say shit, a

865
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: lot of men who didn't have who didn't say anything

866
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: about how fucking disgusting this was, who didn't feel for

867
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 2: these women that were victimized by this, that will suddenly say,

868
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: y'all trying to throw men in jail. What, I can't

869
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: even have sex, so if a condom break, y'all gonna

870
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: send me to prison. You will suddenly have a bunch

871
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: of vocal, cowardly, fucking dudes who didn't say a goddamn

872
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: thing about this disgusting tactic. The fact that these motherfuckers

873
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 2: have online communities, the fact that these dudes are already

874
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: grouping up and this is malicious, intentional sexual assault. You

875
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: will not have dudes say anything about that. But the

876
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: second that somebody says, well, you know what, they just

877
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: passed a law in Virginia that says, if you do

878
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: this shit, you're going to jail, all of a sudden,

879
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: it's gonna be these fucking women want to lock everybody up. Well,

880
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: then don't have sex? Then well then I mean, what

881
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: if I just forget So I forget the condom and

882
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: then Oh, so we get halfway through and you like,

883
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: you're gonna get all of that shit, all of that shit.

884
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: You know, every dude's gonna have that time heat that

885
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: the condom broke story and be like that I could

886
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: have went to jail, Like that's what this law is about.

887
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: That's that's what it's gonna turn into. Watch I would laugh,

888
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: but I'm not even being funny. I'm fucking serious. That's

889
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: exactly what's gonna happen. It's the same way if they

890
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: pass along street harassment niggas all of a sudden that

891
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: didn't have a fucking word to say when women were like,

892
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm scared, this is dangerous, all of a sudden, you're

893
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: trying to send me to jail. So I can't even

894
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: say Hi, I can't I'm a nice guy. Why you

895
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: gotta assume I'm saying something. But it don't be rude,

896
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be those niggas that come out of nowhere.

897
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: They didn't say shit all this time. So yeah, man,

898
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: stop trying to change the fucking subject. Listen, understand the

899
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: difference because oftentimes you know, uh, and they're not I

900
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: was gonna be blaming the victim or you couldn't tell,

901
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be that shit. It's like if I say

902
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: no and you do something and then go, or you

903
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: couldn't tell. I obviously not motherfucker. I said no. You

904
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's so so ridigulous, But yeah,

905
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: they think a new statue could be the best course

906
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: of action. This would not only help survivors with suit

907
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: criminal charges that they choose to, but the clear language

908
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: can help people understand what happened to them and hopefully

909
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: receive support and at the math of the violation. One

910
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: of my goals with the article and the proposing a

911
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: new statue is a provider vocabulary, create ways for people

912
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: to talk about what is really a common experience that

913
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: is just too often dismissed. Is just bad sex instead

914
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: of violence. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting because like

915
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: I said that as soon as I put it up,

916
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: and it's my page. So it's not like most of

917
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: these other motherfuckers. There were men that tried to find

918
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: a way to center themselves in the conversation.

919
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 3: You know, question what did they say when you start

920
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: talking to them, be like.

921
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: Oh, they didn't they deleted it. They apologized, I didn't

922
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: mean to derail it. That's not what I was trying

923
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: to No, they didn't argue with the women. They just

924
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: I posted this link essentially to the same article, and

925
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: it was, so, what would we call it when a

926
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: woman poke a hole in the condo? I mean, is

927
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: that non sexual assault? Or I mean, I'm just interested

928
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: in what that would be. Why are you interested in

929
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: that in this conversation. I just want to know, because,

930
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: like I said, when someone says, yeah, two gay dudes

931
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: got beat up at a bar because they were gay

932
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: and they got called homophobic slurs and it's a hate crime,

933
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 2: you don't roll through and say, well, I'm just interesting

934
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: because a gay dude. If a gay dude beat me up,

935
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm a counselor. I do these

936
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: things for a living academically. If a gay dude beat

937
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: me up with you, you would be fucking you would

938
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: look so stupid. You would never do that. But when

939
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: it comes to women's issues, men are just very comfortable

940
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: speaking over and just taking over the issue and being like,

941
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: this is my issue, now, what about me? What about me?

942
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't care about you whatever. I mean, y'all do

943
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: it too. Even if that was the case, that's still bad.

944
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: Right, It's not right?

945
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: Right? What do you think you think that's the thing.

946
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: It's just like the dude to send the email out

947
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: the violence against women thing. It's like, I'm not trying

948
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: to I really don't like you know, I was very patient.

949
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: I tried not I didn't call them any names. But

950
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: in my mom I'm like, what do you think my

951
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: answer would be?

952
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: Right?

953
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm that kind of person? That's like, well,

954
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: you know what is different? When a woman beat up

955
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: a man, you know, that's fine. If a man is

956
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: being abused in the relationship, hey, tough shit, bro, Like, no,

957
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: that's I don't think anybody should be bothered. Surprise, surprise, guys.

958
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm not on the abuses okay bandwagon at any point

959
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: in time, you know, I'm not on the If a

960
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: woman's poking holes in people's condoms and shit, that also

961
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: would be bad. It's interesting they don't form online communities

962
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: about it, isn't it though? It's interesting they don't have

963
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: a pathology to it where they sit around and go right,

964
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: it's interesting that they don't do that. Also, let's keep

965
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: it one hundred Okay. So the reason that men want

966
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: to take off a condom, is that they feel ownership

967
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: and entitlement to women's bodies. One for the feeling.

968
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: Of raw sex.

969
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh, that's to be wrong, you know, like that's the

970
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: number one. They want to feel certain way too. They

971
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: then say, well, this is so because I have a

972
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: right to flare my seed. This is my it's my

973
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: right to put my seed in your body. That is

974
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: what I can do, and you gotta deal with it.

975
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: If we are keeping it all the way funky when

976
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: it comes to trying to get pregnant, such as not

977
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: taking your birth control or poking a hole in a condom,

978
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: women have been dealing with certain amounts of subjugation and

979
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: oppression and unfairness that in that case, the idea is

980
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 2: I would be either a trying to make money off

981
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: of having someone's child write the child support or whatever,

982
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: or I'm trying to keep this person in my life

983
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: via the fact that I am going to get pregnant.

984
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: So either like, it's like we put women in a

985
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: certain position where they would have to do something desperate

986
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: as it I'm not saying individually, but just generally, we

987
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: put women in a position where they have to do

988
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: desperate shit and then we're like, yeah, desperate bitch. You know.

989
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like dudes that get mad at women

990
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: for looking attractive. You know, she gets more likes on

991
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: her jokes on Facebook, and she's a woman and she's

992
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: good and dudes want to fuck her, Well, then you

993
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't you be mad at the dudes? What are you

994
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: mad at her for? They liking shit because they want

995
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: to fuck her? Is her in that day fault? You

996
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: mad at women? You walking around mad and women are

997
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: goddamn day Like, that's the difference. So yeah, it's like

998
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: and for the record, I'm not even saying that it

999
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: well this is okay and the other ones not. I'm

1000
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: just saying, if you really wanted to get into why

1001
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: people view one as less egregious than the other, that's

1002
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: why I personally think all of it's fucked up. But

1003
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: in general, if there was gonna be a lesser of

1004
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: two evils, you're probably gonna end up with the idea

1005
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: of a woman getting pregnant because you're gonna end up

1006
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: being a mother to that child, and it's probably to

1007
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: have some type of attachment to either you or the

1008
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: money for that baby to a compared to a dude

1009
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: that I got a pregnant now out, or a dude

1010
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: that's in the up. I'm already abusing this woman, so

1011
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make her get pregnant so she can't go nowhere.

1012
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Like it's all fucked up. But yeah, yeah, the power.

1013
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: You can't take away the power dynamics of this discussion

1014
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: just so you can be like, uh, they do it too.

1015
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: If that's all that it matters to you, that's the

1016
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: most important thing, then you're saying that so you can

1017
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: be dismissive. You just want to get to a point

1018
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: where you can be like both sides and then walk

1019
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: the fuck away discussion. All right, let's get into uh,

1020
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: let's get into some other things. And I think I

1021
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,959
Speaker 2: was gonna get that ripped up, but here we are.

1022
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't believe like people on my page

1023
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: are saying that shit, Like I.

1024
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: Go right your page. I'm like, shit, niggas, I don't know

1025
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: bettle Yeah.

1026
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: I try to keep ashy motherfuckers the fuck away from me,

1027
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: and they try to be nice about it. I'm like,

1028
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't not even know nice guy. Shit. Just stop

1029
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: think before you say something, right, think? All right, Uh,

1030
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: play some guests. I mean some fucking with black people.

1031
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking with

1032
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1033
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 2: That's right, guys, Time to play the game. We all

1034
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: hate to play fucking with black people. The game. We

1035
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: go all around the glow. We find different articles make

1036
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: us feel fucked with, and we score them in intervals

1037
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: of twenty five from zero to one hundred contestants. A

1038
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: lot of people, all right, Shaye, Moisture is in the building.

1039
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 2: They put out a hot fire ad, Karen.

1040
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: I think when I got off work. You saw it

1041
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: when I got out work. But you can play in

1042
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: the chat rooms. People they hadn't all.

1043
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: Right, I would try. I just think, let me put

1044
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: it in there.

1045
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: I look like, what the fuck is this?

1046
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1047
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: I know as I came home and they was twinting

1048
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: on everything, I was like, what did they do?

1049
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just seen the Naturalistas and all the sisters

1050
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: on my timeline was livid and I said, I don't

1051
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: know what's happening.

1052
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 3: I know it was a fuck you hashtags Moisture.

1053
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Listen, let me tell you something about being a man. Okay, guys,

1054
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't know much about the politics of black women's hair.

1055
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the history of certain products

1056
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: and bands, and they're fuck ups and they're not fuck ups.

1057
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: It's just didn't it didn't work and went back, Oh okay,

1058
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: all right, let me see give me one second, guys. Uh,

1059
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know enough about it too solidly

1060
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: have an opinion. Uh. What I do know is I'm

1061
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: always welcome to shut the fuck up, so it sins

1062
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: I ain't know, I ain't have nothing to say, but

1063
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: I have to refresh. It's freezing. I'm giving a second guys.

1064
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: Uh hate when it does that. Yeah, of course, m h.

1065
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I knew enough to know to shut the

1066
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: fuck up.

1067
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1068
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: I was just sitting up there like, yeah, I don't

1069
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: have to have an opinion on this, so I'm gonna

1070
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: leave it to that, you know.

1071
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: Full fledged mad. I mean it was literally I got

1072
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: off working log d in and all I seem was angry.

1073
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, Yeah, sometimes people are mad

1074
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: when I'm not mad. And the reason isn't that I'm

1075
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: such a better person than them, is just that I

1076
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: don't know what it is they're mad about, correct, and

1077
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: I can't relate to it. So I just step back

1078
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, I don't know, and I don't have

1079
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: to have an opinion. I don't have to have a

1080
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: hot take. I don't have to come in and try

1081
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: to talk over people I don't know, as opposed to

1082
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: a lot of brothers who see this and get the

1083
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: calling card to come from under the bridge and start

1084
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: trolling black women. Let me see, is it Shawn yet? Yes,

1085
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna see if I can play. I'm

1086
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: trying to blow it up, make it big. But yeah,

1087
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, I saw a lot of brothers jumping in

1088
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 2: front of the line of fire.

1089
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: Thanks rows up in my hair, and then I'd just

1090
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: be walking and there'd be like little paper balls in

1091
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: my hair. I hated it because it's like, oh, I

1092
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: have this and people make fun of me for it.

1093
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: That's like a light skinned, natural hair black woman, okay,

1094
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: giving her a story about her hair, and it says fact,

1095
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: hair hate is real. It is all right. It was

1096
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: lots of days steering in the mirror like I don't

1097
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: know what to do with it.

1098
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like I was supposed to be

1099
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: a red hat. I dyed my hair blonde for seven

1100
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: years of my life, platinum blonde.

1101
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: I didn't really embrace.

1102
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: So that appeared to be a white woman talking about

1103
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: dying and hair blonde because she's a redhead.

1104
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: Okay, it's my natural hair. But then you know, as

1105
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: I got older, I learned how to do it, and

1106
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I learned how to love it.

1107
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: Says break free from hair hate with a million ways

1108
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: to love your hair.

1109
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: Instead shame, wish sure, holy girl right here.

1110
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: It just gives us all the results that we need.

1111
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: It's kind of that go to product. I think a

1112
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: good hair day is the best kind of day. I

1113
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 3: feel like I have conquered the world. I love my hair.

1114
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: I love the volume, I love the curl, I love

1115
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: the texture. I love everything about it. Everything about it.

1116
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody, everybody gets love.

1117
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: So suddenly it was what appeared to be three out

1118
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: of the four windows were white women. And then that

1119
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: one sister, that the light skinned curler sister that started.

1120
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Which is interesting because the logo on the way out

1121
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: is a bunch of brown women on the way out.

1122
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: Like you know, at the end of YouTube videos, it'll

1123
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: be like, here's our logo. It's like the products a

1124
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: bunch of brown women and the products in a dude

1125
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: blind dude. So then it say it's basically go to

1126
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: Target and get it. So I'll just ask you, Karen,

1127
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: as a black women, because I don't know enough about this,

1128
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: how did how did you feel? And what was what

1129
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: do you think was the problem with the ad for

1130
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people?

1131
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a lot of things. But the problem with

1132
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: the ad itself is that they're known for products for

1133
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: black women. Black women have been supporting that product for years.

1134
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: So much that it's like a pejorative amongst people that

1135
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: don't like black women or that try to be funny.

1136
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, shaye, butter Twitter and shade Twitter was

1137
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: saying this, that and the other.

1138
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: And also the problem is too and I've realized this

1139
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: about their products too. They changed their formula, and the

1140
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: thing about black women's hair. When you change formulas, people

1141
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: are like, hey, my hair isn't responding the same. So

1142
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: now only did you change your formula, you change your

1143
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: formula and then you do this fuck as commercial and

1144
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: you don't really include any dark skinned brown people and

1145
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: your commercial is like a fucking Panteen commercial. And it's

1146
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: one of those things where okay, and the thing is

1147
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: if you want to quote unquote strike out and start

1148
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: a new brand, a new line. That's why I ain't

1149
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: starting new line right. And I think nobody had a

1150
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: problem of you, like, hey, this is our new line,

1151
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: and you could have did this not TD funny in

1152
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: my opinion, you could did the same commercial, but like, hey, y'all,

1153
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: we're starting a new line. But for the fact that

1154
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: you're pumping it and you're promoting it the same and

1155
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: for a lot of women who actually heavily use this product,

1156
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: and I've seen it and I've expended myself, you've changed

1157
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: it and the same thing. Some people talking about Carol's daughters,

1158
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: same thing. They change some of.

1159
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: Their they got a business now too.

1160
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: I think they're only online now or something like that. Yeah,

1161
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: because they're not the same. They changed their formula. And

1162
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 3: for for particularly and particularly with people with curlier hair

1163
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: like your your four seeds and your three seeds hair,

1164
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: people that fought on a very almost curlier and kinkier sign,

1165
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: a lot of them used this product. In this product

1166
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: it was it was a way for you to get

1167
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: a hold of a product that you didn't have to

1168
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: spend an arm and a leg for, you know, you

1169
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: didn't have to know somebody didn't know somebody type of thing,

1170
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 3: and they didn't have.

1171
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: To go to the Asian store, that the Vietnamese store,

1172
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: Korean store.

1173
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: That shit right, And a lot of black women wanted

1174
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: to support black things. That's that's the thing. A lot

1175
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: of black women support black things. Like I said, I

1176
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: have a lot of very so my mind might be

1177
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 3: all over the place about this because it's a variation

1178
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: of things that I want to talk about. It was

1179
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: a lot of Black women who don't use the product,

1180
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: which is fine, but I seen a lot of women

1181
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: who don't use the product who was like, well, I

1182
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: don't use the product, but I feel bad for the

1183
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: women that use the product though I used to use

1184
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: the product, and you know, because they changed their funding.

1185
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: Those women are fine, but it was a lot of

1186
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: women who don't use the product, never use the product,

1187
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 3: and act like these women was pointless for these women

1188
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: getting mad over the product in the first place. I

1189
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: have a problem with that because both of Carrol's daughters

1190
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: and Shaye Moisturizer when they first started started you know,

1191
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: black owned and all that stuff, and I think both

1192
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: of them, I know for a fact that Shaye must

1193
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: Risers is actually like an investment firm kind of bought

1194
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: them kind of things, so it's no longer black owned,

1195
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: but you still pushed and you still promoted your product.

1196
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: Your product is overall known, not trying to funny as

1197
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: a black product. I don't know, you know, I've never

1198
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: went to a white place. I did they at that

1199
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: time be there so soon I did, y'all. I do know,

1200
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: y'all not pushing it, you know the same? You know,

1201
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: so you have a product that's actually not targeted for

1202
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: them as far as how they've been pushed and promoted

1203
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're trying to target this audience.

1204
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with you talking this audience,

1205
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: but it's a proper way to target this audience. The

1206
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: way you did it was it was really fucked up.

1207
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: Like I said, you like any generic white Like I said,

1208
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 3: your panteens, your perk, pluses, your shore. It's like you

1209
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: look just like those commercials. And my thing is that

1210
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: you try to cover it up by putting a light

1211
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: skinned black woman on there. And I have no problem

1212
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: with that light skinning black woman being there, but the

1213
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: problem is that she was a light skinned black woman

1214
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: she didn't have any and she wasn't dark and the

1215
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: dark people you put at the very very end of

1216
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 3: your commercial you should have had more color. And then

1217
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: on top of that, in my opinion, like I said,

1218
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: and because of my ignorance on a lot of things,

1219
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: I didn't know white women used the product. Cause I'm

1220
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: gonna tell you that free, I didn't know that this

1221
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: was popping in the white community.

1222
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people said that. They also said, like,

1223
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: why would they use it because it will matt their

1224
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: hair down? Possibly like the products just aren't designed for

1225
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: white hair, which is maybe why they change their formula

1226
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: or something. They are selling it in Target now, but

1227
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, just just kind of throwing black women under

1228
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: the bus to like switch off. Uh, you know, very

1229
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: common I think in general for people that, oh, we

1230
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: want a new level of access and so uh, some

1231
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: people started framing it it's hate hating on shade butter, like, oh,

1232
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: y'all hate don't shave moisture because they trying to diversify

1233
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: and reach out and make more money. See, this is

1234
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: why black people. Businesses can't never do nothing because black

1235
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: people hold them back and ship like that. People are like,

1236
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: we don't have a problem with them selling their products.

1237
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: But if at the expense of the black people you

1238
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: already have, it feels inauthentic and fucked up, right and.

1239
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: And and and that's where that's where the problem comes at,

1240
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: because you have a lot of deaf tone people in

1241
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: your marketing tone deaf people in your group. Because this,

1242
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 3: this commerc had to pass get the proved civil times,

1243
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people that laid their eyes on

1244
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: this commercial for it to be approved. A lot of

1245
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 3: people seen this, a lot of people. Commercials just don't

1246
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: pop up out of nowhere. So many the people seen this,

1247
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: and nobody at one period of time was like nah

1248
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 3: dall and people didn't have power with the white women

1249
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: being in it. It's just for the fact that they

1250
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: were the focus, which was the problem.

1251
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Well also, I mean it did come off very all

1252
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: hair matters come I mean, like I said, I don't

1253
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I can completely understand because it's just

1254
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: I think I would need to have understood the history

1255
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: of the product because people were telling me they fucked

1256
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: up before in the past, and they've apologized before, and

1257
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: it's like, man, I just need to do better. Also,

1258
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: sometimes I think Uh, it's difficult for black businesses to

1259
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: reconcile with the fact that our business is going to

1260
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: be a black business and it's gonna do as well

1261
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: as Black people feel about it, and it's gonna do

1262
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 2: as well as Black people spend about it. I think

1263
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: in an industry and in a time where you look

1264
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: at other companies and you watch what they can do,

1265
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: because whiteness is very much, you know, it's so big

1266
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh man, it's not fair that we

1267
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: cater to a very specific community and we're so good

1268
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: at it, we make so much money, but we'll never

1269
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: get the recognition. We'll never get the money they get

1270
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: while they're just being mediocre. I completely understand. But that's

1271
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: your lot in life. And like we said yesterday, it's

1272
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: so fucking ironic. Literally yesterday, we were like, if you

1273
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: fucking mess up with black women and you do anything black,

1274
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: it's going to come back to haunt you. You will

1275
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: not be able to deal with your community because black

1276
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: women are the name people that support this kind of

1277
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: shit and black hair nigga, you know that's black women.

1278
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: They also fucked up on social media because Tarita not Shed,

1279
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: who's a well known misogynist and black woman hater went

1280
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: on his podcast, went on a rant on his Twitter

1281
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 2: account essentially the meaning black people and saying, y'all make black,

1282
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: y'all want black business not to grow and all this shit,

1283
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: and so in Shay's social media account, rep I don't

1284
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: know who it is, must be somebody that's not very

1285
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: familiar with black Twitter or Twitter in general. They thanked

1286
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: him on Twitter and like retweeted him because he was

1287
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: being very defensive of him. But they didn't realize that

1288
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: ultimately he's only being defensive of them so he can

1289
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: take a shot at the Black women that are their customers.

1290
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: So it was just very tone deaf. It made it

1291
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: way worse.

1292
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: It's almost like they didn't know their market. And that's

1293
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 3: what happened. When it's the difference between when you own

1294
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: something and you have investment group. Investment group give zero

1295
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: fucks about anything other than profit. Just keep that real.

1296
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 3: When somebody coming in he says, here's some money, produce

1297
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: a return on my investment. They don't care anything about

1298
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: anything else. And that's the problem too.

1299
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: It's a disconnect and even trying to equate white women's

1300
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: like I had red hair, guys and I dieded blonde.

1301
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: Even equating that with literally the texture of a black

1302
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: woman's hair is so fucking stupid, even the idea of

1303
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: what black women go through with that hair and the

1304
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: beauty status of America and how their eurocentric to then

1305
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: equate that to white women that just have I have

1306
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: blond hair, guys, and it just was not working for me,

1307
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: And you're like, who gives a fuck like that, that's

1308
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: not the brand for this product you do.

1309
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that the part plus commercial and collon

1310
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: a fucking day, and that's.

1311
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 2: It's like, how silly. It's like, how silly, no offense,

1312
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: but how silly would bebble. Look if all of a sudden,

1313
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: bel Wo just started having ads for white dudes, It's like, well,

1314
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: you know what I have, of course, curly white hair

1315
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: and sensitive white skin, and there's just not enough products

1316
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: out there on the line for me, so I have

1317
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: to use So I'm gonna start using bevil. Like everybody

1318
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: would be like, white man, we don't believe you. You

1319
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I just had the hardest time

1320
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 2: fitting in with my beard and it wasn't until I

1321
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: used BEVL. We'd be like, really, white man, none of

1322
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: the products on the market was good enough for you. Nothing,

1323
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: nothing was white enough for you. Dog for real, you know,

1324
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: it's that thing. And even worse, there might be people

1325
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: like that. If you do an ad catering to those people,

1326
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: when you built yourself as the black brand, people are

1327
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: gonna be like, what the fuck are you doing?

1328
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: And I guess my problem, why can't you extend over

1329
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 3: to whiteness without erasing blackness? And that's always a problem

1330
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 3: anytime anything black a lot of times expands over to whiteness.

1331
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: It a lot of times people consciously or unconsciously will

1332
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 3: always won't to erase blackness. And I don't comprehend that.

1333
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: Why can't you just be across the board? You know?

1334
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: And that becomes a problem because and there's several things here.

1335
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 3: When you have people like Pantein who realize that black

1336
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: women are honestly black women. We buy stuff for our hair, right,

1337
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, literally, black women spend billions of dollars a

1338
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: year in fucking hair products, just black women. It's not

1339
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: clue white women. And so when you have people who

1340
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: don't know anything about hair, like like like Panteine, let's

1341
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 3: just keep this real, Panteen quote unquote got a black

1342
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: line that shit will dry your hair to fuck out, right,

1343
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: but people would buy it because they go, oh, it's

1344
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: a black line. I try to eat drive because it's

1345
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: not makes my fucking texture of hair. You want to

1346
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 3: make money off of us, but you don't know how

1347
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: to make shit for our hair, right, But yet we

1348
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: got shipped for us, and you want to come up

1349
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: here and take that away. And not on top of that,

1350
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 3: let's let's get rid about it. Let's talk about the

1351
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: fucking years and decades of going to the goddamn grocery

1352
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: store and you see hundreds of selections of white people

1353
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: shit when it comes to hair, and what do you

1354
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: get too, fucking products of black shit. Some blue magic

1355
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: and some pink old moisturizer. That's what the fuck you're

1356
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: gonna get in the black section. You know, you may

1357
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: get an optimum or something like that, but you're not

1358
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of choices and a lot of selections.

1359
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: And black women been having to deal with this for years.

1360
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: It's like black men have been having to deal with it.

1361
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: When it comes to to shaming products and shit like that.

1362
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: It's a problem, and it's very irritating. When we have

1363
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: shit and we love shit, and we support shit. And

1364
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: and I will always go back to this. Black women

1365
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: are tired of people shitting on them. But with your

1366
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: fan base, you push, you promote. You want the money,

1367
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: but you don't want an opinion. You don't want to

1368
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: You don't want us telling you you're wrong, and you

1369
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: one's calling you ound, but you want our money. And

1370
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: that becomes a problem. Also something else that became a problem.

1371
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm and and and in this situation, it can't frustrating

1372
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 3: quick telling them black women to make their own fucking product.

1373
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: Everybody don't want to make their own goddamn products. Some

1374
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: people just want to take that money and purchase some ship.

1375
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 3: They don't they do not want to make.

1376
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: Time not an inclination. I gotta learn. So so because

1377
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: this brand fucked up, I gotta stop supporting any brands.

1378
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 2: I gotta stop spending my money anywhere. I mean, I

1379
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: use all your hair made stuff for my for my beard.

1380
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: And they're a great company and they do good, good work.

1381
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: But if like they fucked up somehow, I wouldn't just

1382
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: be like, well, I guess I'm gonna go out and

1383
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: start fucking planting trees so I can, so I can

1384
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: do my beard. I feel like I'm gonna go find

1385
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: something else.

1386
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 3: And and and in this instance, it's it's stupid because

1387
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: a lot of times when when people tell people to

1388
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: build their own, you know what, they're fucking people out.

1389
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: You're building their own And shout out to all the

1390
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: black women that started going on social media was like, hey,

1391
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: I got prought up. I got like like like it

1392
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 3: was a lot of black women that was had had

1393
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: they for sale signs up. And that's one thing about

1394
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: black women. Black women be going getting an entrepreneur. Somebody

1395
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 3: sitting that scene shame Morst Rider was fucked up. And

1396
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: that was like, hey, hey, I know y'all out here

1397
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 3: looking for some shit. I got some shit for our

1398
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: had So shout out to the sister that was like,

1399
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: hey y'all want some fuck them, I got some shit

1400
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 3: for you. So it was a lot of people waiting

1401
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: around to to consume them up. Because that's the thing

1402
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 3: is so many options now. So it's very frustrating. Like

1403
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: I said before, when everybody don't have the time, they

1404
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,480
Speaker 3: don't have the money, they might not be motivated. Everybody

1405
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: can't build their own. People do not talk about how

1406
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: what building your own takes, building your own text of

1407
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: fucking lock people. It's real easy to tell people to

1408
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 3: build their own shit when you ain't doing shit, nor

1409
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: are you in the spot where you where you're pulling

1410
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: that void that needs to be filled. You just say

1411
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: build your own because it fucking sounds.

1412
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: Good, a right, build your own social media platform. If

1413
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: you don't like people complaining, Uh, New Orleans, Oh wait

1414
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 2: zeo TI heard it?

1415
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: Oh that, Oh they get a one hundred. And before

1416
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 3: we move on, like I said, I understand why they

1417
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: was mad. And back to some of the things we

1418
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: said before, and we touched on some of these things.

1419
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: When black women be mad, just let them be mad.

1420
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: I do not know what's so complex about it was

1421
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 3: so complicated about it, and what's so hard about when

1422
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: you see black women trending on social media, regardless of

1423
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: whatever the fucking platform is, Just let them be mad.

1424
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: It's okay to let them be mad, let them be angry,

1425
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: let them be frustrated, let them go at people, let

1426
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: them drag people. Just allow them to do it. Didn

1427
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: nobody actually your fuckings opinion, didn't nobody ask for We

1428
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 3: got to hear two sides didn't nobody ask for you

1429
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 3: to insert penis here button that you apparently seen that

1430
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: you felt like you got to come in and tell

1431
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: me how to feel and what to do and all

1432
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 3: this shit. I don't care about your crocodile tis. I

1433
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: don't care about if I hurt your feelings. I don't

1434
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 3: care because a lot of times I was talking about

1435
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 3: some shit, you come over and then I say, fuck you, nigga,

1436
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 3: I'm the problem. No, don't nobody asks you to be here?

1437
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm You know, the thing that I thought I

1438
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: was interested in is I remember when I saw this

1439
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: earlier today, going I knew enough to know, I didn't

1440
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: know enough, and I was like, I don't have anything

1441
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: to contribute, you know what I mean. I don't know

1442
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: the particular inner workings of the idea like you need

1443
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: to know. But I saw so many dudes that couldn't

1444
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 2: wait to say something if even if it was basically

1445
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: to tell black women shut up right, like just but

1446
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: you could have said nothing because it was obvious as

1447
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: because they would bring up questions that black women would

1448
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: answer and the answers would be like, well, clearly these

1449
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: black women know it because they've been dealing with it

1450
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: and you don't know it because you just you just

1451
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: saw this for the first time today. Black people are

1452
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: always getting mad about some bullshit and then just went

1453
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: in saying any you know any Yeah, it's just ridiculous.

1454
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: I've seen black pop. I've seen dudes get mad about

1455
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: someone saying something stupid in a press conference at a

1456
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: sports at sports game or a sporting event, or somebody

1457
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: going to a different team, or somebody not not getting

1458
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: a recruit you want to do go to your favorite college.

1459
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: I've seen people go off about some stupid shit like

1460
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: that and and nobody comes in and bothers them and

1461
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: chastise them. Why you care or you always mad about

1462
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: some bullshit? Like they leave them alone. They're able, They're

1463
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: seen as validly angry or whatever their emotions are about it,

1464
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: and people leave them alone, like sisters don't just start

1465
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: trolling them, and they got sisters that follow them. Sisters

1466
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: don't spend all day trying to tell them how they

1467
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: how much they don't care about that bullshit. So yeah,

1468
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: it's really frustrating. It really feels it feels purposeful in

1469
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: my opinion, it.

1470
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: Does, and I think for me personally, and I guess

1471
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 3: just being a black woman is just very frustrating. When

1472
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 3: we party, the ash comes, we're mad, the ash comes.

1473
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: If we're sad about something, the ash comes. The only

1474
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: time the ash don't come, and sometimes it does come,

1475
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 3: is when we're fighting for black men, and sometimes the

1476
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: ash comes and tell us we ain't doing enough right.

1477
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: That's true, and as.

1478
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: A black one, I'm fucking stick and tired of it.

1479
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know the shade and shade moisture was

1480
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: really shady. That's the part that surprised me. What happened

1481
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 2: to that dude? So one hundred for me as well. Okay,

1482
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 2: just a supportive of one hundred because, like I said, man,

1483
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't know this, you know what I mean? Like,

1484
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: I love my black women and everything, but I I

1485
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: can't I'm not a black woman. I don't know everything.

1486
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm not as I don't have the vistual reaction sometimes

1487
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: of shit because I don't know enough to have it.

1488
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: All I do is listen and try to learn and

1489
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: be like. So that's what that's about.

1490
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, it's a lot and sometimes not trying. Funny,

1491
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: most dudes don't know what the fuck the women using

1492
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 3: their hair anyway, I'll look aside. Most dudes get shade

1493
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: moisterizeder y'all. Some of you, the niggas had to google

1494
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this? What the fuck is a

1495
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: Carol's daughter?

1496
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: Like?

1497
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 3: You had to google the shit and the woman was

1498
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: complaining about because you didn't have no idea what it was.

1499
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like I said, I don't understand, and

1500
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can only imagine it would be

1501
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: like if there was some hip hop clothing brand that

1502
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: was supposedly a very black thing, and then white people

1503
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: just started doing it and the ad for the brand

1504
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,959
Speaker 2: showed a bunch of white people doing it. Like, for example,

1505
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: if those African medallions were like a brand, Like if

1506
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they had to add where black

1507
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: people was wearing African medallions, I would be like, what

1508
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: the fuck is this ad?

1509
01:18:59,680 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 3: Like?

1510
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: How are y'all selling to them? That's the most I

1511
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: can approximate what it must feel like, because I've seen

1512
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: people are hot, you know what I mean, And I

1513
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: was like, oooh, they hot. I don't even know what happened.

1514
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 2: Somebody fucked up. I don't even have nothing to say

1515
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: about it, you know. I like y'all got it. New

1516
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Orleans is going to take down a prominent Confederate monument.

1517
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: New Orleans removed the first of four prominent Confederate monuments

1518
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: under the cover of darkness early Monday, the latest Southern

1519
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: city to sever itself from symbols view by many as

1520
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 2: a representation of racism and white supremacy. Truckers arrived around

1521
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: one am to begin removing the Liberty Monument, which commemorates

1522
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: whites who tried to topple a biracial post Civil War

1523
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: government in New Orleans, Liberty Monument and that the opposite

1524
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: of liberty, liberty for us. I don't know what you

1525
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: niggers think you're doing with it. The workers started early

1526
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: in an attempt to avoid the disruption from supporters who

1527
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: want the monuments to stay. Some have even made death threats,

1528
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: according to officials, Now, why the fuck do they care

1529
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 2: that much? What are you really fighting against? New Orleans

1530
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: Mayor Mitch Landreu said the Liberty Monument was the most

1531
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: offensive of the force set to be taken down. He

1532
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: added it was erective to revere white supremacy. If there

1533
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: was ever a statue that need to be taken down,

1534
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: is that one, he said, workers who were expecting the

1535
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: statue ahead of his removal could be seen wearing flack

1536
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: jackets and helmets they expected to be shot at. Y'all.

1537
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: Police officers watch the area from a top the parking

1538
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: garage of a nearby hotel. Three other statues to Confederate

1539
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: Generals Robert E. Lee, PGT. Beauregard and Confederate States of

1540
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: American President Jefferson Davis will be removed in later days

1541
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: now that legal challenges have been overcome. There's a better

1542
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: way to use that property. These monuments are on and

1543
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: away that better reflects who we are, said Line Drew.

1544
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: New Orleans is a majority African American city, although the

1545
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: number of black residents and fallen since two thousand five's

1546
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: Hurricane Katrina drove many people from the city. The majority

1547
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: black city Council in twenty fifteen voted six to one

1548
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: to approve plans to take the statues down, but legal

1549
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: battles over the fate have prevented to removal until now,

1550
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: said land Drew, who proposed the monuments removal and rode

1551
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: to victory twice with overwhelming support for the city from

1552
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 2: the city's black residents. Come through black people. That's what

1553
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: I talk about when I say voting your local shit. Okay,

1554
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: this president shit, it sucks, It might not always work out,

1555
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: but motherfucking your local shit, man, go voting your local

1556
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: shit so y'all can get some power and some people

1557
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: that care about you in the local district man. Because

1558
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: that's a hell of accomplishment, Because I know that's a

1559
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 2: battle they fought. White people don't ever want to give

1560
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: up white supremacy without a fight. It doesn't matter, and

1561
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: they're couch it in everything but the fucking truth, which

1562
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: is I don't want to give up. I didn't own

1563
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: those slaves, but I damn sure want to feel like

1564
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 2: I did. Come, let me go to the next segment

1565
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: real quick, guys, give me on a second, be right,

1566
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: mac m m.

1567
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 3: Other than that, it makes no fucking sense. Why are

1568
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 3: you so adamant about something? Right?

1569
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: You mad as fuck?

1570
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 3: You didn't own tho slips, It didn't matter. Tell the

1571
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 3: fucking bitch, damn wat should it matter?

1572
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: Right? I don't know that? Like, they don't want none

1573
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: of to blame. They don't want to hear about reparations.

1574
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: They don't want to hear about people feeling some type

1575
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: of emotional attachment they tried to. It was for Staates, right,

1576
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: it was for uh everything but slavery, you know what

1577
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean. It's always like it was a battle over

1578
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: Staates rise. It was about heritage, not hate and all

1579
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: this shit. Then you go, Okay, we're gonna tear it down.

1580
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: Whoa woa woe niggers.

1581
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 3: We need those.

1582
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, you know this is a matter of fact.

1583
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: This is a good time to talk about this. Okay, guys,

1584
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: this is some nerdy shit I'm about to bring up. Okay,

1585
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: so you guys might not some of you guys aren't

1586
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: gonna know what the fuck I'm talking about. And that's okay,

1587
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean a hundred I mean, well zero

1588
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: for them taking it down obviously. But one of the

1589
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: things that our article reminds me of is this big

1590
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 2: fucking debate that's been going on in Nerd, comic book reader,

1591
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 2: social media about Captain America Steve Rogers and Captain America

1592
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Sam Wilson. Who you, guys, if you watch the movies,

1593
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 2: that's a Falcon, the black dude. He's the new Captain

1594
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: America in the Marvel universe. Yeah. Yeah, And I remember

1595
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 2: a year or two ago when they announced they were

1596
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: doing this, and I was very nervous about the idea

1597
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: of them making Sam Wilson Captain America because I said,

1598
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't want them to pull aady punches, And I

1599
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: just didn't know if Marvel had the balls, the temerity,

1600
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: the ovaries to look America in the face and pull

1601
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: no punches and say, look, this country is a racist place.

1602
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: If we had a symbol of America that was a

1603
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: black person, we would not treat that person well. And

1604
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: more importantly, they would treat the office differently than a

1605
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: white person would. Essentially, in this position would be Captain America. Okay.

1606
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: In the comic books, Steve Rodgers said, something happened to

1607
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: him when he ages all the way back to his

1608
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: like his actual age and shit, like he's a ninety

1609
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: year old man or some shit as opposed to you know,

1610
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: this guy who was frozen in ice and then his

1611
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,879
Speaker 2: body was unfrozen and he stayed fucking thirty five eternally

1612
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, so he's an old man. So somebody

1613
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 2: has to pick up the man on the shield falcon.

1614
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 2: The black dude picks it up, and he becomes Captain

1615
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: America and immediately and you can see how they wrote

1616
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: the book, Nick Spencer, this white dude wrote this book.

1617
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: He wrote book, both books, and I'm like surprised, I'm amazed.

1618
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for him to fuck it up some

1619
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: house so I can be like, I knew that a

1620
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: white man couldn't do this for too long, but so

1621
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: far he's been outstanding. But his essential in my opinion, right,

1622
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with you guys. It's my opinion,

1623
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: it's my show, my platform. I want to give you

1624
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: my opinion. This motherfucker, Sam Wilson got so much pushback, y'all.

1625
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking. And they did a great job in the

1626
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: panels and it was almost one hundred percent split among

1627
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: racial lines, many many white people. That's not my Captain America.

1628
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: That he'll never be the real Captain America. What he

1629
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: needs to do is give that shield back, get a

1630
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 2: shield back, take back the shield. They were like advocating

1631
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: for him to give the shield to anybody but his

1632
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: black ass. The first thing that Sam does, the first

1633
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: like fight that he really gets involved in, is one

1634
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 2: over immigration, and it's and it's a fight over immigration

1635
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: that eventually leads to the fact that they're doing the

1636
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: legal testing on some people who don't have rights in

1637
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 2: America because they're legal uh there, they're undocumented people. And

1638
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: then it all, it goes all the way up to

1639
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: change to like corporate America and shit, and he ends

1640
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: up in a horrible position because there's like he literally

1641
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: wants to shut these companies down, but there's nothing he

1642
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 2: really can do because companies have taken over our government

1643
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: so hard that if he were to strike out against them,

1644
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: any blow he did would also be a blow against

1645
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: the American people. But you know, he finds ways to

1646
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: navigate that stuff. But the victories don't feel like punching

1647
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: Hitler in the face. The victories feel a lot like

1648
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: their internal problems. Okay. See Captain America. Steve Rogers is

1649
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: a person that historically hasn't a guy that takes on

1650
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: the problems of the quote unquote world. He's a symbol

1651
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: of World War two America, where we always know right

1652
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: from wrong, and we always come in and help other

1653
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: people fight their battles. And you know, he's fighting the

1654
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: Germans and the Nazis and punching, you know, punching Hitler

1655
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: in the face, and you know, going to other nations

1656
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 2: and helping those guys and stuff. But he's not really

1657
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: a guy Captain America. Steve Rogers is not a guy

1658
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: that takes on racism in America. He's not you know,

1659
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: he's a guy that has black friends. So we acquit

1660
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: him of well, he's not racist, so that's good enough.

1661
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: But he's a guy that can look at black kids

1662
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: getting killed in the street and that's not a problem

1663
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: for him because he's a white dude. That's never that's

1664
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: par for the course for him. He's not. He doesn't

1665
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: mean he's actively rooting for those people to be killed,

1666
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: but he how does that affect me? My problem? When

1667
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 2: I took this shield in this mantle up, I looked

1668
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 2: at problems outside of the United States and said, how

1669
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: can I help there? Sam is different Sam. He can't

1670
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: turn the blind odd to people in need in his

1671
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: own country. And the final kind of arc of Sam's

1672
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: run has him deal with but essentially, black lives matter.

1673
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: I can't like, I can't believe how good this book is.

1674
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 2: It's a privatized police organization that is unjustly and unfairly

1675
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 2: policing black and brown spaces and poor people, and they're

1676
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, being very violent. They're being caught on camera

1677
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: and things and people want uh and they're called the

1678
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: Americ corp or something like that, a MERRICORPS cops or something,

1679
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: and people want say them to like step up, and

1680
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: like black people are like, you need to help us,

1681
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, like what do we How are we going

1682
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: to fight this by ourselves? And you're this symbol of

1683
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 2: justice and truth and all this shit, don't you see?

1684
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: We're in pain and this is wrong. And he tries

1685
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: to fight him in several different kinds of ways, but

1686
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: he and he tries to stay out of it. But

1687
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: when he took the man on, he told Steve something

1688
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: that immediately to me was like and that's why you're

1689
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 2: a better man than Steve, cause he said, I can't

1690
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: ignore this stuff because Steve told him to stay out

1691
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: of these inner turmoils in America. He just said stay

1692
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: out of it, like immigration, this corporate corporate control of politics,

1693
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: racial shit. He was like, just leave it alone, like

1694
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: concentrate on other shit, go fight hydrant shit, leave this

1695
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: shit alone. And Sam's like, I gotta do it my way,

1696
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 2: and him and Steve went head to head over that shit.

1697
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: But eventually Sam was just like, I'm I would rather

1698
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 2: be the unpopular person that did the right thing. Then

1699
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: this popular symbol that says and does all the fucked

1700
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: up shit, you know. And it's essentially that Sam's blackness

1701
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: doesn't allow him, it doesn't afford him the ability to

1702
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: ignore this shit because he's trying to be true to himself.

1703
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: So he eventually takes on the AmeriCorps and his friend

1704
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: and other hero, Rage, who the symbolism man if y'all guys,

1705
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 2: I hate I'm spoiling this with ya. Nigga should have

1706
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 2: read it by now. Anyway, the symbolism like Rage is

1707
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: actually a kid, but when he his superpowers that he

1708
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 2: absorbs like people's emotions and shit, and he can get

1709
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 2: like he was like a big ass grown man. Message

1710
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: he's black. He's a black kid, by the way, if

1711
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: it was a DC book and call him black Rage.

1712
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: But anyway, but Rage like essentially gets framed for a

1713
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: crime he didn't commit. He gets beaten and brutalized by

1714
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 2: this these privatized police. It's caught on video. He neglects

1715
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: to cause. Sam Wilson is like, I'm Captain America. Look,

1716
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: I'll just talk to him we'll get you out of this.

1717
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 2: I'll explain it. And he goes, no, I'm going to

1718
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: go to court. I'm going to go to trial on this.

1719
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: And Sam's like, but you will probably lose and they

1720
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: might crucify you and all this shit, and He's like,

1721
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: I know, but I need people to see what's happening.

1722
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: I have the eyes of the world on me. I

1723
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: want them to see how unjust this system is and

1724
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 2: what it does to people that don't have resources. And

1725
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: Sam's like, well, let me bring in this, like, you know,

1726
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: one of my Shee Hulk or somebody that's like a

1727
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: Matt Murdock, some one of these great lawyers that's a

1728
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: superhero shit. He was like, no, I want a public

1729
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 2: defending like everybody else got a public defender. And they

1730
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: had this big, dramatic case and all this stuff, and

1731
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 2: in the middle of the trial, Sam gets his hands

1732
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: on footage that actually sort of really exonerates Rage. It

1733
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: shows these villains that went into this place and and

1734
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: stole this ship, and how he came in to fight

1735
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: him and stop him and got beat up and and

1736
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: got framed for this crime. Right, and he gets this

1737
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 2: evidence and the judges like, yes, inadmissible. It was gathered

1738
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: in a way that I'm not comfortable with, and the

1739
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: jury cannot consider this in deliberations, and so they find

1740
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: Rage guilty. And Sam is at this most impotent, his

1741
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 2: most frustrated, his most angry, you know, and he's defeated,

1742
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: but not by there's no bad guy to beat him up,

1743
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 2: America beat him up. It's such a beautiful, brilliant story.

1744
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: So he like, he's so he's so heartbroken that he

1745
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 2: essentially leaves the position behind. Like he's like, I can't

1746
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 2: be Captain America in any good conscience. And it's not

1747
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: that you know, I failed at this, but this it's

1748
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 2: the story of a country felling a man. It's almost

1749
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 2: like the Barack Obama version of Marvel, right, and it's

1750
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 2: beautifully written, Nick Spencer, Just like I said, I could

1751
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 2: not have been more impressed. Man, Like I know, the

1752
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: popular thing among most black comic book readers is the

1753
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: shit on the big companies and say all the indie

1754
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 2: companies are doing the right and all the shit. But

1755
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerning this Marvel story specifically is

1756
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 2: really well done. So the controversy is this the new

1757
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: Steve Rodgers gets his youth back at some point, right,

1758
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: so he gets his youth back, and it's after Sam's

1759
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: been Captain America for a few months. So it's almost

1760
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 2: the worst possible thing to happen to Sam. It's one

1761
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: of the reasons that he is support erodes even further

1762
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: because once Steve Rodgers is young again, everybody's like, well,

1763
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: just give a fucking tightle on the shield back, go

1764
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 2: back to being falcon and let Steve be Captain America again.

1765
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 2: And Steve is playing it in public like, no, he's

1766
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: Captain America. I stepped down. There's there's more, there's room

1767
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: for a lot of people to be this, but but

1768
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: Steve has. Sam has to kind of seed some level

1769
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 2: of power back to Steve because it's like the world

1770
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: won't except that Steve's there and not Captain America. So

1771
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 2: it's like, we'll both be Captain America. It's cool, I'm

1772
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,919
Speaker 2: compromising with you because and especially in the last episode,

1773
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: it was almost it was very emotional because the last

1774
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: episode of Sam Wilson's last issue of Sam Wilson's Joint

1775
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: is his letter kind of to America that he's resigning

1776
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: as Captain America and he's basically saying like I maybe

1777
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 2: I underestimated the hate, which is the exact words when

1778
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: Obama kind of talked to Tanna hosen Coach in that interview,

1779
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: is like, if I on anything is I could not

1780
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: have fathomed how hateful, how fucked up this country could

1781
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: be towards me, you know, And just I can't imagine

1782
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: trying to grapple with that from that position, you know,

1783
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: how do you do it? And what do you realize?

1784
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: What do you do when you realize how feudial it is,

1785
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 2: Like even your best self is still an offense to them.

1786
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: The fact that you're even in that White House, you

1787
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So anyway, Steve Rogers in the

1788
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: first issue coming Back, is revealed that he's he's a

1789
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 2: Hydra agent. He's undercover Hydra. Motherfuckers lost their mind. Now

1790
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: here's the thing. People said, they've been doing this thing

1791
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: with her, like Hydra is the Nazis. Y'all made captain

1792
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: to a Nazi. Now that's a good buzzword, that's a

1793
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: good way to try to spend it. Truth of the

1794
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: matter is, Hydra has not been considered like literally the

1795
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Nazis until that white man did that. People like Ages

1796
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 2: of Shield has an entire storyline right now National TV

1797
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: every Tuesday about Hydra and people are were not offended

1798
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 2: at all. They didn't go, this is tasteless. You guys

1799
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 2: have turned them into the Nazis. You got They went, oh,

1800
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 2: this is like I have Hydra socks. They put socks

1801
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: to sell. They sell cosplay items with a Hydro on it.

1802
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Hell Hydra. Being Hydra as a hell turn has been

1803
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: a comic book trope that has been met with like, well,

1804
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 2: this is just a story like if anything, it's something

1805
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: that has been a placeholder for the idea of being

1806
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:37,440
Speaker 2: a secret agent or evil, but it's never been completely

1807
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 2: one in one with you're a Nazi, you're fastest, You're

1808
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 2: and he is the fastest in this In this book

1809
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Captain America and the things he does, he undermines women

1810
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: and people of color color to get to see his power.

1811
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: It's it's so fucking brilliant, right, like he undermines Maria Hill. Now,

1812
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: so many people do things for themselves that make them

1813
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 2: look bad, but he he undermines them while looking great.

1814
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: He does it while not looking malicious at all. Though

1815
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 2: American people think he's a great person, they everyone agrees.

1816
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 2: They don't know how fucked up he is because he

1817
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: never reveals his whole hand and his whole plan. It's

1818
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 2: like how white supremacy makes people. It sabotages people and

1819
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: then goes, this is your fault. You know, why don't

1820
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 2: black people just stop doing crime? It's that kind of

1821
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: thing where it's not it's like, hold up, now, you

1822
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: know you took a lot of options away from these communities.

1823
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 2: You robbed them on things, you gave them no place

1824
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 2: to go, and then you went, what are you doing

1825
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: trying to do crime? It's like, well, it's only the

1826
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: only ways to make money. Then you incarcerate them and

1827
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 2: make money off of that. It's that kind of shit,

1828
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 2: you know. It's the silence, the fact that Captain America

1829
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have a stand like Steve Rodgers. Captain America. He

1830
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: doesn't have a stance on America Corps, he doesn't have

1831
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 2: a stance on immigration. He doesn't because he's fine with

1832
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: how things are going, which is fucked up. You know,

1833
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: He's like, that's fine with me, So yeah, I know

1834
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm not out, which I just need to deal. So

1835
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people got like super upset about

1836
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: this and I and I was like, why are people

1837
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: so upset? You know what I mean? Because because like

1838
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 2: a he'll turn someone being evil. It's a comic book,

1839
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: you know, they always redeem the hero at some point,

1840
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: even if it's you know, you'll think, oh my god,

1841
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 2: they kill Batman and Batman comes back, oh Wolverine's like,

1842
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: they always do something that eventually restores this person. Right,

1843
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: But yet I've never seen people so fucking mad over

1844
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: essentially a book that many of them don't read, right, Like,

1845
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: most of the anger started when people were seeing these

1846
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 2: preview panels and these articles that are purposely misleading. They

1847
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: take context out, they present panels out of without telling

1848
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 2: you how they earned that moment in the story, and

1849
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So all the stuff to say, I

1850
01:37:56,479 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: realized yesterday when I was just thinking about it, they're

1851
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: mad because a white dude that was the symbol of

1852
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 2: propaganda for America that had they had the nerve to tarnish.

1853
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: That's it, and people are trying to catch it. Well,

1854
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 2: it's now really the time with fascism raising in the world,

1855
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, actually now it's the perfect time to talk

1856
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 2: about it the same way it was the perfect time

1857
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 2: in the Civil rights era to have the X men

1858
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 2: come through. Like, that's when comics are at their best,

1859
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: when they're talking about shit that's happening through the metaphor

1860
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: these comics, when they're teaching you about the right and

1861
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: the wrong of how things can be through these comics,

1862
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: they don't go fascisms, okay, because Captain America is doing it.

1863
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 2: The fucking book is saying, listen, even the symbols that

1864
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 2: are being built to like make us feel hope can

1865
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: be used against us, Like even that that blind patriotism

1866
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 2: is wrong, it is evil. It does matter what the

1867
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: fucking purpose of a person is. So I bring all

1868
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: that back to this. These manu is coming down and

1869
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the white people that are willing to threaten people to

1870
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 2: keep them up. They exist. This is twenty seventeen. This

1871
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 2: isn't They're not being embolden because Captain America's fucking h

1872
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 2: They are fucking this way and they have always been

1873
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 2: this way. This country was founded and built on this shit.

1874
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: You cannot convince me. I didn't really understand why I

1875
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 2: love this Captain America story as much as I do

1876
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 2: until I really sat and thought about it. I was like,

1877
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 2: because this is what I think America is. I think

1878
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 2: he is pretty in the pictures. I think it is

1879
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: a blond hair, blue eyed man wearing a fucking flag

1880
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 2: and saying all the right things, and then behind you

1881
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: he's undermining black people. He's undermining people of color. He's

1882
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: trying to put a press of regime in the place

1883
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: he thinks he wants to bring lawin order back to

1884
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: the streets. You know, I do think that. I don't

1885
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: think America is Trump, but I think America are the

1886
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: people that vote for tr but they don't say it

1887
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 2: when they're but they're Tom Brady. America is Tom Brady

1888
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Captain America. Steve Rodgers is essentially Tom Brady. He will

1889
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: be in face, he'll he'll never voice any political concern

1890
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 2: or anything you would ever disagree with. But behind Joe back,

1891
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: he's wearing that make America great again had like every

1892
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: other motherfucking person that you call it racis. That is

1893
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 2: essentially the story, that is essentially American life. If you

1894
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 2: are black or just studied history, you know that this

1895
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 2: country will give you such propaganda about the highs and

1896
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: the best parts of our country, but they will not

1897
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 2: fucking they will write two paragraphs and say that was

1898
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: slavery in your history textbook. But then they will write

1899
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 2: a fucking big ass chapter on World War Two because

1900
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: we get to look like heroes that came in and

1901
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 2: save today. That's America, that's Captain America, Steve Rogers, and

1902
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 2: most of us in this country feel a lot like

1903
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 2: Sam Wilson right now, especially if you're black and brown,

1904
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 2: you feel a lot like Sam did, where you're like,

1905
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I feel so fucking helpless,

1906
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 2: and I know I can't fight back through the systems

1907
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 2: that they rigged up to win. I know I can't

1908
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: do it that way, so I gotta find some other

1909
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: way to fight this. And I just think that it's

1910
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 2: so it's such a beautiful book. And part of the

1911
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: reason I love it is because white people are mad

1912
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: as shit. And you know what, be mad then, because

1913
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: you'll never be as mad as I am. You'll never

1914
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 2: be as mad as I am at the lives of

1915
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 2: this country built up and at the promises this country

1916
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 2: let us down. You worry about a fucking job, I'm

1917
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:42,919
Speaker 2: worried about living. It just ain't the same. You'll never understand,

1918
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 2: and that's fine, you know, but at the same time,

1919
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 2: you being mad about this fucking comic book. I hope

1920
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: you are mad at this country as you are that

1921
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,839
Speaker 2: goddamn comic book, you know. I hope you are mad

1922
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 2: at the White House full of white supremacists that you

1923
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 2: are about these fictional fucking Nazis in a goddamn comic book.

1924
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 2: I hope you get that kind of mad when you

1925
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 2: look at the shit, because a lot of people that

1926
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: spend all day online argue about a goddamn fictional comic book,

1927
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: but they don't got shit to say about the very

1928
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 2: real bigotry that exists in our White House and in

1929
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 2: the administration. We have white supremacists in the administration, We

1930
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 2: have Nazis in the street punching people in the face,

1931
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,759
Speaker 2: and your ass sent up him mad at a goddamn

1932
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 2: comic book because they took away your symbol. That symbol

1933
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 2: never existed. I never even fucked with Captain America until

1934
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: last couple of years, because that's some real shit. That's

1935
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 2: America to me. So yeah, I fucking stand for that

1936
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 2: book man, protecting expense at all costs till he fuck up.

1937
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: He a white man, he gonna fuck up, We know it.

1938
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: But until he fuck up protecting expense at all costs. Man,

1939
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's writing the shit like I read

1940
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 2: it every month, expecting him to then be like, ah,

1941
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 2: fucking with y'all guys, and every month, every month, I

1942
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: would read it and I'd be like, that is how

1943
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 2: it be. That's exactly how it be, you know what

1944
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean. So, I don't know if he's stealing some

1945
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: black women's writing work or some black like. I don't

1946
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 2: know if he's exceling being into what. I don't know

1947
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: how he's getting down. Yeah, I don't know why he

1948
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't know he just taking credit for people ship.

1949
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. What I do know is this motherfucker

1950
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 2: is writing that hot fire that I can't wait to

1951
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 2: read every goddamn mom. So shout out to uh to

1952
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 2: Nick Spencer. Yeah so yeah, zero for taking down those monuments.

1953
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: But it isn't it amazing that there's a resistance to that?

1954
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 2: Come on, doll, isn't it like, shouldn't we all be

1955
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: a little bit surprised that there's a that that somebody's

1956
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 2: pushing back on the idea that you know, we would

1957
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 2: be like, we should take down this racist monuments that

1958
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,600
Speaker 2: that praise the people that didn't want black people to

1959
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 2: have rights, and people are saying but that that that's

1960
01:43:54,760 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 2: but that's my granddad. But I'm not racist though, you know,

1961
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: I add one more before we move on. Brooke Hogan

1962
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: speaking of I'm not racist though, Brooke Hogan defended her father,

1963
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan, and said she was once told white people

1964
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 2: smell like bologney, and that's racist. She said, I feel

1965
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 2: bad for my dad, but I also feel bad for

1966
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 2: African American fans and stuff because they don't know. He

1967
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 2: didn't really, he didn't mean it. You know, it would

1968
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,799
Speaker 2: be offensive. But this is something that we have to

1969
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 2: put a stop to every day because I'll be honest

1970
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 2: with you, I had a black guy called me a honky,

1971
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 2: and I also been told that white people smell like bologney.

1972
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 2: I don't take offense to it. I just laughed at it.

1973
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 2: It's the same as institutional racism and uh bigotry and

1974
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 2: criminal justice system and all that shit. Same thing, you

1975
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 2: guys know how this is like, oh okay, that's the

1976
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 2: same as when somebody would say to a white person,

1977
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 2: you smell like bologney. Meanwhile, her father said he didn't

1978
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: want her dating niggers. But keep in mind he didn't

1979
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 2: mean it. Somebody must have meant that Bologney comment, cause

1980
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 2: that stuck with her. But we're supposed to get off of racism.

1981
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,879
Speaker 2: She still remember somebody saying white people smell like Bologney.

1982
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 3: That's the worst they doing, dog.

1983
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 2: That's the worst they doing. That's okay, that's what they

1984
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 2: got for him. Uh alright, fuck her a hundred, that's

1985
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 2: what I say here. All right, let's get to some

1986
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: white people news. Alright, we need to need to calm down.

1987
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Let's see what I can find here on my playlist.

1988
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 4: Oh no, not that one. Mm alright, here we go,

1989
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 4: Here we go. How about a lot of black people

1990
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 4: on this list?

1991
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 2: Is not what I was looking for? Uh, I don't know.

1992
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 2: How about this? Wait the white people listen to I

1993
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. That felt a little too black.

1994
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm fine with these white folks. All right,

1995
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 4: here you go, white folks.

1996
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, actually, I have the perfect song for

1997
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 2: white folk niggas. Hold on a second. Oh man, you

1998
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 2: guys are gonna love this. I forgot. I forgot all

1999
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: about this. I saved it specifically for this segment and

2000
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 2: fucking almost forgot because we didn't do it yesterday. But uh,

2001
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have it for y'all today now, I will

2002
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: say in advance, don't be mad at me. Okay, guys, sorry,

2003
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 2: all right, I'm just trying to this is what white

2004
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: people listen to, and we're just trying to make sure

2005
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 2: that that you guys can appreciate and get some coaching

2006
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 2: in life from these white folks. Okay, all right, so

2007
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 2: let's listen to this, uh what I like to call

2008
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy jam here? Wait, why is it starting? The thirty seconds?

2009
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 2: Can I make it started? One second?

2010
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 3: You put the screen up?

2011
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 2: Did it come up? Good? Good? I wanted to start it.

2012
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: I mean I want you to see it. Okay, uh like,

2013
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't have problem with y'all see in it live,

2014
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 2: but everybody listening to audio later, don't be mad.

2015
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 6: Uh I reject I remember sirup sandwich if I'm allowing

2016
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 6: system ness ahead or with some counter town counting this

2017
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 6: Puma jung with counting.

2018
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 3: In fact, I'm down in this. Noo say with my bat.

2019
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 5: Girl like them buy you walk the world with my

2020
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 5: paste stuff.

2021
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 3: Oh that's so so good. Once you're sitting there is

2022
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 3: down my.

2023
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 5: Chaste plus I get away too, Faddy's lovely to the

2024
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 5: ex strass, pull up on your block that break it

2025
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 5: down me play in ten stress am the PM p

2026
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 5: M to the AM funk let down shirt for d M.

2027
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 5: You just got that hate them funk. If I quit

2028
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 5: your b M, I still writing me save this funk.

2029
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 5: If I quit this season, I still be the greatest funk.

2030
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 3: My left shoke just went vibe step.

2031
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 5: A little baby in the sky rough soprano.

2032
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 2: See, we like to keep it on a high.

2033
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 3: You know it's levels to you, and I know shit.

2034
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 6: Three humble, sit down, three humble, sit down, be humble,

2035
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 6: sit down, be humble.

2036
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 3: All right, I'm about a double time and here we

2037
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: go doble time claiming to be humble.

2038
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 5: But you always had a cocky got a color verse.

2039
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 5: Somebody better stop the comments at the top. And I

2040
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 5: had like a Rockies when a guy got on top

2041
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 5: of a lady coming back with out of a hobby.

2042
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 5: This music thing way more than a hobbies hobby.

2043
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 3: The party, don't lock coming up with the body. Seven

2044
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 3: Hello goals and I'm never giving up. Put a little

2045
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 3: floor out there for the rush. No wanna know I'm

2046
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 3: known for a dunko. Go well, go, don't have.

2047
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 2: Fun not owning.

2048
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 5: I'm going I'll show off the home team so cold.

2049
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 5: They tell us at the Omie, don't ever show you,

2050
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 5: and I say, lofty, back to the bottle.

2051
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,799
Speaker 6: People here, when you know, be humble, sit down, be humble,

2052
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:27,440
Speaker 6: Sit down, hey body, purpose.

2053
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 2: Sit down. Look, this is white people, do this is

2054
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 2: what this is?

2055
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 3: God damn cast me on keyboard. What's happening here? Mm hmm.

2056
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 3: I reject a hundred, you get a hundred.

2057
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 2: There's nothing they can't see themselves doing. You know what

2058
01:49:54,840 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean? There's literally nothing you can't they can't see

2059
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: themselves like you wouldn't just be like that is for

2060
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: black people. I can't even say some of the words

2061
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 2: in this because they're profane and not for me. But

2062
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 2: you're just like, fuck it, I'm gonna do this.

2063
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 3: I don't gonna try to rap, just try to rap, like, no,

2064
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 3: come on, now, you don't know ken, you don't breathe.

2065
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 3: What's happening now?

2066
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 2: Hit us? You had to say hit us because you

2067
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 2: could say niggas. Mm hm hmmm. Oh well, then he

2068
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 2: tried to put his own bars at the end.

2069
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 3: Skip the whole bart Hey, hey, you get all that

2070
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 3: you like? I can't do none of that.

2071
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: M m what happened to this step? Way too crazy?

2072
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 2: Ay you do not amazing? Like we couldn't get that.

2073
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 2: We had to get uh your I'm gonna double time

2074
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 2: it now. Walk into the street and I get some

2075
01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 2: windy's look at me and all oh, man like, oh boy,

2076
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 2: well you know what, man, muss It's fine.

2077
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 3: You know.

2078
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 2: You gave it a you gave it to gave it

2079
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 2: an honest try. Ye took that. Nigga one is not amused.

2080
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Kate Middleton is less than impressed than when a cheeky

2081
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 2: London marathon runner sprays water at her and Prince William

2082
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 2: as they cheer competitors on. They may be royal, but

2083
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 2: that didn't stop cheeky London marathons from splashing Kate and Wills. Wills.

2084
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: I swear rich white people and poor black people, same people,

2085
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 2: same people. Uh, I'm gonna name my kids something crazy.

2086
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name my kids something crazy. Wills.

2087
01:51:58,439 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 3: Oh that's the baby.

2088
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Wills is the name of somebody, Like, that's

2089
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 2: somebody first named Kate and Wills. Prince William I guess

2090
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 2: they call him Wills, Like, what's the next thing? I mean,

2091
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Prince Will made it? Come on man ah anyway with

2092
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 2: uh with water as they cheered from the sideline. The

2093
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: Duke and Duchess were handing out bottles at water Water

2094
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Stop when several runners spotted a golden opportunity to have

2095
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 2: some fun. The smiling Prince, who has dubbed themselves a

2096
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 2: modern monarch, appeared to take the joke slightly better than

2097
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: his other half, who seemed less than impressed as water

2098
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 2: dropless landed on her fleece. Prince Harry managed to avoid

2099
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: the spray, but was seen jokingly shining away from one

2100
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 2: particular sweatery runner who wanted to hug him for a selfie.

2101
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: What did they How did they make their money?

2102
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,799
Speaker 3: Football? At tack of them? Taxes? Taxes?

2103
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: So they really do get people. They give these motherfuckers

2104
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 2: money from they change pay for all that shit. I

2105
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 2: don't know, but if niggas told me my taxes was

2106
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: going to some niggas so they could feel royal, I'd

2107
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: be like, if you don't give me my motherfucking coins back,

2108
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 2: that should be like that optional thing you doing? Your

2109
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 2: tax turns like you want to give two dollars to

2110
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party or the Repeblican Party, like they should

2111
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 2: let you think It's like it won't come out of

2112
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 2: the return, like they should let you do that. For

2113
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: this shit was like, you want to get two dollars

2114
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: to the Royal family or not the royals who champion

2115
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 2: the marathoners official charity. Heads Together put their hands together

2116
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 2: to the sound of the Claxton and set forty thousand

2117
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 2: hopefuls on their grueling twenty six mile journey at ten

2118
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 2: am this morning. They then reached the race from a

2119
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 2: halfway point, where they gave runner high fives as a

2120
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 2: radiant Kate waved encouragement with a large blue phone man

2121
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 2: the Royal trio where Black Heads Together Tops spent about

2122
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 2: half an hour chatting to supporters and whooping and clapping

2123
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 2: as runners sped past. Well which one of them. See,

2124
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 2: That's how you know they not really royal? Because I

2125
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: feel like if you threw water on like Jeoffrey, that's

2126
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 2: your family, you know what I'm saying, Like it's Circe.

2127
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: If Sircey got hit with a blast of water on

2128
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 2: her fleece, you think she wouldn't be like off with

2129
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: his head on spot, kill and murder his whole family

2130
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: all the way down to the bastards. Yeah, everybody burned

2131
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 2: them off. She was sitting the mountain and shit, the

2132
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 2: mountain would be at your house. Yeah, I guess I

2133
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't have throw that water on that. I knew she

2134
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't think it was funny.

2135
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 3: She'd be looking at the window when a your house

2136
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 3: blow up?

2137
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 2: Right, she tied you to something. Pour wine in your face.

2138
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 3: Yea.

2139
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: A water point at twenty two mile mark was the

2140
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 2: next stopping point, where they handed out refreshments to astonished runners,

2141
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: many of whom did a double take and forgetting their

2142
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 2: time backtrack for a selfie. William K and Harry stood

2143
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: at the side of the road and then shot well

2144
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 2: as a giant sound system boomed out motivational songs including

2145
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 2: wymca is Sex on Fire. They laughed, cheered, and whooped

2146
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 2: as the exhausted participants faced the final four miles. One runner,

2147
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 2: dripping with sweat, spotted will even bound it over. I

2148
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 2: saw you earlier, he shot at and he gave the

2149
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 2: prince a high five. Oh that's nice anyway. Yeah, the end,

2150
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 2: some black people wanted got to take their picture with

2151
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 2: Prince Harry. Oh, I see why y'all were all over

2152
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: Prince Harry. This dude's a smoke show. I see, y'all, ladies. Okay,

2153
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 2: I've been wondering. I was like, what's the big deal

2154
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 2: with this dude? I see also shout out to the

2155
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: black people who won from Kenya and the fact that

2156
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 2: this black woman didn't sweat out her parent y'all. I

2157
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 2: swear to god, she ran twenty six miles. I don't

2158
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 2: even see sweat on her. Like, did they take the

2159
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: picture before the race?

2160
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 3: Like?

2161
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 2: Is that how it is? They just know they're gonna win,

2162
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: They like, just take the picture. Now we about to

2163
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 2: run the pants off these white folks. So like Harry

2164
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 2: even touching them and shit like, oh don't know sweat

2165
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 2: on these negros. But I guess he ain't he dating

2166
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 2: that black woman, so like he like, I ain't scared,

2167
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 2: come on in here and getting this picture of black people.

2168
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 2: I'll touch you, man. I know not to touch the

2169
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: health Okay, I know the rules. Ah, I've been talked. Yeah,

2170
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: I was wondering why y'all was all on this dudes. Dick,

2171
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 2: this dude is that's a handsome son of a bitch,

2172
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 2: like a model or something. Many stopped to post with

2173
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 2: selvies with the Roys and ran over a high five

2174
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 2: them a shake hands in a more genteel way. Will's

2175
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 2: and Harry Won't runner shouted across to them, waving. Others

2176
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 2: applauded the trio as they ran by. Well done guys,

2177
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: William shouted, thank you so much. Kate told some of

2178
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 2: the seven hundred competitors running on behalf of the Heads

2179
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Together mental Health campaign. Prince Harry, who hopes this will

2180
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: be the year of the Mental Health Marathon, then presented

2181
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 2: trophies to the top three elites and the world pair

2182
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 2: Ofalyptics Athletics Marathon World Cup competitors. Well that's dope, except

2183
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 2: for that water got on there and she was just like,

2184
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 2: fuck these poor people. I am out of here and

2185
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: put water on me. You know, she didn't call it

2186
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 2: a person. It put water on me. Oh does it

2187
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: have bacteria? Please tell me this came from a fresh spring? U.

2188
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: Why wasn't this bottle? Why wasn't this water served to

2189
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 2: me in a flute? Javier Bardim smolders on the cover

2190
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 2: of Esquire magazine as he opens up about his marriage.

2191
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh shit, mm hmmm. Uh, you know, y'all love some

2192
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 2: Javier Bardem and get him back on screen. I click

2193
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 2: on the wrong thing, all right. Yeah, even at forty eight,

2194
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: he is as sexy as ever. Seeing y'all thought they

2195
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: only objected for these these women's they object for these

2196
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 2: mens too. Uh is it showing up? I don't see it.

2197
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 2: It is now okay, A just delayed them screen anyway.

2198
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: He opened up about a seven year marriage to Penelo

2199
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Plee Cruise. Oh that's who wife her up. I'll see you,

2200
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 2: play boy. She is bad with her. I'm racism don't

2201
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 2: effect me. Y'all need to stop complaining ass but uh

2202
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: yeah she They started dating while filming, Oh, the two

2203
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: thousand and eight Woody Allen movie Vickie Christina Barcelona. Oh

2204
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 2: that's who made that movie. I never saw it, probably

2205
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 2: never will now I know he made it. Always.

2206
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm good.

2207
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 2: The pair of Mett first ten years earlier while filming

2208
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: the movie Live Flesh Together. What we have is the

2209
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 2: most important thing a past, he told the magazine. We

2210
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 2: knew each other back at the very beginning of it all,

2211
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: and that is important because we saw when we saw

2212
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 2: each other again I saw her and she saw me.

2213
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: And one of the two covers he posed for the

2214
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 2: No Country for Old Men start seeing brooding for the

2215
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: camera against a beige wall with feeling paint. Hawrio looks

2216
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 2: handsomely disheveled in a beige blazer worn over a gray

2217
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 2: T shirt as he shoots to the camera and a

2218
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 2: tense style. Yeah, he was this rock and roll post.

2219
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what's up with this, but I guess

2220
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 2: this is what when the photographers just like go for it.

2221
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 2: His side profiles on full display, including his famously prominent nose,

2222
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 2: which he admitted he developed over a group of strangers

2223
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 2: jumped after a group of strangers jumped him in a bar. So,

2224
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 2: I guess his nose used to be okay, and then

2225
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 2: they beat him up. They decided to have fun with

2226
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 2: my face, he recalled. Sounds like they fucked him in

2227
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: the face. Done it. They decided to have fun with

2228
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: my face, he recalled it a publication, adding it was

2229
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 2: only after his nose was broken that his career really

2230
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: started to take off. After the photos shows the self

2231
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 2: confused confessed heavy metal music fan behind the drum kit.

2232
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 2: He was a peripheral a perforated black bomber jacket and

2233
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 2: gray T shirt as he peeks out from behind symbols

2234
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 2: and drumsticks in his hands. So this is the description

2235
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 2: of the covers. But he's gonna be in prius of

2236
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 2: the Caribbean, y'all, HARVEYO. Bardien out here trying and be

2237
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 2: sexy on they ass. I'm gonna mention it on my

2238
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:21,440
Speaker 2: Christmas card. Julia Roberts receives People's Magazine. People Magazine's World's

2239
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Most Beautiful accolade for the record fifth time as she

2240
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 2: jokes about beating pole George Flinney. So, ladies, next year,

2241
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 2: hopefully some of y'all might get Hopefully one of y'all listening,

2242
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 2: y'all all be the most beautiful lady next year. But

2243
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 2: unfortunately the scientific evidence is in and once again, for

2244
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 2: the fifth time, it's Julia Roberts. She first raced to

2245
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 2: cover twenty six years ago, and you're at the shooting

2246
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 2: to fame and pretty woman at the age of twenty two,

2247
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 2: And now she has another accolade to add to her

2248
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 2: mini as People Magazine in the Oscar winner that World's

2249
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 2: most Beautiful cover star for a record fifth time. The

2250
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 2: forty nine year old actress had previously claik. You know

2251
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 2: what's funny to me is they were like, this is

2252
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 2: the world's most beautiful woman. You know they photoshopped the

2253
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:16,560
Speaker 2: ship out of that cover. Still and guess what, guy,

2254
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 2: she's fifty. She has no ringles, her eyes, have no curls,

2255
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 2: no hairs. Hurt. Oh man, society is so stupid. Uh

2256
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 2: probably used that shade monsture though on her hair because

2257
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 2: it looks she's a redhead. She probably has struggle with

2258
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 2: that whole life. It's probably just like the same as

2259
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 2: having four sea curls, in my opinion as a man.

2260
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 2: And any of you black women mad about it now,

2261
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Calm down, all ladies, got a man

2262
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 2: tell you what to do with you? Of course shade,

2263
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 2: but her Twitter is upset. She previously claimed to cover

2264
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 2: twenty ten, two thousand and five, and two thousand and

2265
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, and joked in her comedy interview that

2266
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 2: this is that she was keen to boast, boast about

2267
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 2: the achievement to a good power. George Clooney, let me

2268
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 2: tell you something, man. My guess is whatever, she probably

2269
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 2: has something to promote this year and it's probably that

2270
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 2: ocean's eight or whatever. Yeah, something and that, like, because

2271
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 2: I feel like every year it's just coordinated with so

2272
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 2: and so has something to promote. That's the most beautiful

2273
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 2: woman in the world. By the way, go see sword

2274
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 2: Fish because Holly Berry is in it.

2275
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 3: You know that shit.

2276
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, the rest of you ugly women try harder.

2277
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we keep picking the same one for five years.

2278
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 2: Nobody's it's all you know? A scientific guys? Is this

2279
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 2: the most sexist TV show ever? A bizarre Dutch TV

2280
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 2: show challenges me and to guess if a woman is

2281
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 2: pregnant or just fat, and whether another contestant has real

2282
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 2: or fake breasts.

2283
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 3: This is not a good show. Mmm, I object to this.

2284
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 2: I was very white. I guess Dutch people ain't got

2285
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 2: much going on, Like we've done everything. Let's see if

2286
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: a pregnant woman will kill somebody live on the air.

2287
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 3: I guess they ain't got nothing better.

2288
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

2289
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 3: If you don't know, don't ask. Uh.

2290
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how a fat woman hadn't just

2291
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 2: choked the nigga to death. I'm gonna say, seventeen months pregnant.

2292
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh she stabbing me? Uh? The TV show

2293
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 2: nim geez zimpuolin me, uh, take your swimming clothes with

2294
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 2: you is immediately. It immediately and raised viewers and critics.

2295
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 2: I like after it was broadcast for the first time

2296
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 2: on Dutch public television this week. You know, I still

2297
02:03:57,560 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 2: watch this over Jeffrey Lord on CNN any time.

2298
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes.

2299
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 2: The show saw a woman with a little bit of

2300
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 2: a tummy showcased on revolving platform. Two famous guests will

2301
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 2: ask questions this woman fat or pregnant? Noticeably uncomfortable to

2302
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 2: the two men discussed the answer in the end decided

2303
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 2: the woman had to be pregnant, but she said she.

2304
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 3: Was not pregnant because you can't tell.

2305
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Another woman was put on the revolving platform. They were

2306
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 2: told to inspect her breast and if they were real

2307
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 2: or fake. They correctly guess the answer that they were real.

2308
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 2: That's an easy one. You had to say they're real,

2309
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 2: because if they're fake and you quote unquote mistook them

2310
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 2: for being real, it's a compliment to her her doctor

2311
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 2: and shit. And if they're real and uh, you say

2312
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 2: that real, then it just means you know what you're

2313
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:45,680
Speaker 2: talking about. You can only lose on that one if

2314
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 2: you say they're fake, you know, like really, after jogglingly

2315
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 2: saying isn't it the same?

2316
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

2317
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Wait they were? Another team with two famous Dutch men

2318
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 2: will face with answering the dubious question of whether a

2319
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 2: man was Polish or a plasterer after jogging is saying

2320
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 2: isn't it the same? They settled for the as of

2321
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 2: the man was a pole and not a plasterer, but

2322
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: again they guessed wrong. What is a plasterer?

2323
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Speaker 3: Have no idea? I don't know what the first one is.

2324
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 2: He don't know well, being from pop being Polish means

2325
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 2: you from Poland? Oh okay, but plasterer is that like

2326
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: some that must be like some white people slang m

2327
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 2: plasterer a person whose job it is apply plus the walls,

2328
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 2: the ceilings of services. Like, how is that the same

2329
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 2: as being Polish?

2330
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:31,960
Speaker 3: Poemust mean something else?

2331
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 2: Then, no, Polish means the being from Poland. That's what

2332
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 2: it means. The but plaster You couldn't you be a

2333
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 2: Polish plasterer?

2334
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's why I was like, what does that mean?

2335
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 6: Then?

2336
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:51,960
Speaker 2: White people so fucking confusing making a working class joke?

2337
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I can't keep up with all this, Uh

2338
02:05:55,000 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 2: white people slang, you know, speak English around with child.

2339
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 3: My privilege is coming out right.

2340
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 2: I love you with all my heart. Hugh Jackman celebrates

2341
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 2: his twenty first wedding anniversary with a heartwarming tribute to

2342
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 2: his wife, Deborah Lee Furnace. Uh, yep, you jack can

2343
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 2: still in love with his wife. Y'all forty eight years

2344
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 2: old and they've been in love for twenty one glorious years.

2345
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,839
Speaker 2: I love you with all my heart, he rolled alongside

2346
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 2: a photo of the couple Deverora Lee. They share a

2347
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 2: thirteen year age difference. So when did they meet? No

2348
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 2: wonder they have a thirteen year age difference. Thanksually, I

2349
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 2: need to click this make it bigger, all right, But yeah,

2350
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 2: they have thirteen year age difference. They met and they

2351
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 2: married in nineteen ninety six after meeting on the TV

2352
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:58,320
Speaker 2: set co series Correlli in nineteen ninety five. In April

2353
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 2: last year, a couple celebrated the twentieth wedding anniversary a

2354
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 2: with a romantic holiday in Saint Bart's. Well you know what,

2355
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,880
Speaker 2: that's good man, you know, like at least we know

2356
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 2: he's not as sad as that Logan movie made him

2357
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 2: out to be.

2358
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 3: Aw m.

2359
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 2: Here's an old picture from when they mad. I guess, man,

2360
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 2: he looks so young. Oh yep, there's a photo of

2361
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 2: their wedding day. Yeah, some glasses photo him with a

2362
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 2: basketball and her at the fence. I guess they say

2363
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 2: thirteen year age difference. Who's older? Man? It's I'm almost

2364
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 2: always the man in these relationships, but I'm just wondering

2365
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 2: she might be older for the first time. They don't say,

2366
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 2: They just say thirteen year age difference.

2367
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that say she is, yes, because she looks older.

2368
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 2: I see you come through smil of don snatching up

2369
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 2: this young I'll see you and you Jagon must be

2370
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 2: a good dude, I hope. So don't see me. Nothing

2371
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 2: bad about you, Jackman. Guys say you jackman. If he's

2372
02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:16,560
Speaker 2: doing good things, he out here, you know, he out

2373
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 2: there trying to help break this woman's help, smashing her cakes,

2374
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 2: the smither rings, staying with her for twenty one years,

2375
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 2: being proud of his woman, even though he's like could

2376
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,160
Speaker 2: have been the smolder in Hollywood love interest dude for

2377
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 2: his whole life. He said, no, I'm gonna go be

2378
02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 2: a silly cartoon dude and be in love with my wife.

2379
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 2: That's Dope. Exclusive Southern Charms Thomas Ravenel seeks soul custody

2380
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 2: of his two children as Catherine Dennis blows off drug

2381
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 2: tests and nanny testifies about the star's hard partying and

2382
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 2: unbathed kids reeking of cigarette to smoke. Oh it is

2383
02:08:55,480 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 2: on at the Southern Charms. Y'all care so yeah, Like

2384
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 2: it's not a game in these streets. Southern Charles Thomas

2385
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 2: Ravenel has renewed his bid for soul custody of his

2386
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 2: children as that infamously volatile mother continues to stall on

2387
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 2: court ordered drug test. What court document scene exclusively oooh

2388
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 2: this is messy, just like white people love it hip hop.

2389
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing I happened with Stevie James Joscelyn.

2390
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 2: Court document scene exclusively by daily Mail dot Com show

2391
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 2: that Catherine Dennis has been evading the mandaddy drug and

2392
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 2: alcohol tests last November and now ri's being held in

2393
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 2: contempt to court. In addition, just in addition, just last week,

2394
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 2: Captain lost her bid to keep her medical and mental

2395
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 2: health records out of the custody battle, as a court

2396
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 2: ordered her to hand over all records since January twenty thirteen,

2397
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 2: including those relating to the stint and rehab last summer.

2398
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 2: The twenty four year old checked into a Mat of

2399
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 2: Youth booth facility after drug test last June found out

2400
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 2: she had amphetamine, marijuana, crack and or cocaine and methadonias.

2401
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 3: Yi. Oh yeah, she was doing everything at the party.

2402
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, she went for the the whole shebang bang.

2403
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 3: He was like, I text some of that and that too.

2404
02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:05,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

2405
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 2: Season four of the hit Bravo show premiers tonight, and

2406
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 2: in the trailer Ravenue fifty three and Sean Voice and

2407
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 2: his frustrations as Catherine's continued refusal refusal to fulfill conditions

2408
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 2: of her already limited visitation rights with three year old

2409
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:22,720
Speaker 2: Kensington known as Kenzy and one year old Saint Julian

2410
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 2: Rembert aka Saint Saint Julian wifey for amazing. Why won't

2411
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, why won't she take the drug test?

2412
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 2: He says, before providing the answer because she knows for hell.

2413
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 2: In another trailer for the premier, Catherine takes a surprise

2414
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 2: call to her friend Creg Connerveror, announcing that she's back

2415
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 2: in Charleston. I haven't talked to Catherine in months. But

2416
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Catherine has some issues. She's dealing with

2417
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 2: some shit right now. Last I heard, she was out

2418
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:57,600
Speaker 2: in California, a rehab center somewhere. I'm really really glad

2419
02:10:57,640 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 2: to hear Catherine's done so well. But I'll be honest,

2420
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 2: my life's a lot easier without Catherine in it, because

2421
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:06,480
Speaker 2: when she's in it, things get complicated really really quick.

2422
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 5: Ha ha.

2423
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 2: Now, court records seen by the Daily Mail dot comseing

2424
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,240
Speaker 2: the backup Ravenue's assertion about drug addiction and revealed that

2425
02:11:13,320 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 2: Catherine has been stalling for close to five months, failed

2426
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 2: to show and that court appearance last December, and has

2427
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,080
Speaker 2: been threatened with jail should she persist in her refusal

2428
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:23,760
Speaker 2: to take the test. Her own attorneys attempt to contact,

2429
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 2: attempts to contact Captain on the day of her not show,

2430
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 2: gave and give her opportunity to appear in the court

2431
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 2: proof futile. The judge concluded that Captain has been evading

2432
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 2: drug at alcohol tests required and instructed her to submit

2433
02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:38,680
Speaker 2: to immediate drug alcohol tests in order to report to

2434
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 2: Charleston County Detention Center or the Berkeley County Detention Center.

2435
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 2: Clearly frustrated, he noted that Captain had repeatedly failed to

2436
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 2: provide medical records and rule that his captain herself had

2437
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 2: introduced her mental condition as a claim of defense that

2438
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 2: she is fit and a proper parent to have Cussy

2439
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 2: of the minor children. She waived any right to privilege

2440
02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 2: and gave the court good cause to required a release

2441
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:00,720
Speaker 2: of any and all of her mental health records. It

2442
02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 2: was also rude that Catherine should put Ravenel's legal fees

2443
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 2: in relation to these motions, as she has oceapeam I mean,

2444
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 2: as she has been uncooperative in her behavior. It's caused

2445
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 2: the plans attorney's fees to mount. The court wreckers, and

2446
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 2: the new season's dramatic trailer would show a tearful Catherine

2447
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 2: reluctantly handing over her daughter to Ravenel certainly pay a

2448
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 2: very different picture from the one Cataine is keen to

2449
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 2: portray herself. In an interview with ET on the eve

2450
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 2: of the season four premiere, Catherine studiously failed to mention

2451
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:32,720
Speaker 2: the ongoing court battle and instead claimed, I'm really at

2452
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 2: peace with everything. Chaos is out of my life luckily,

2453
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:39,200
Speaker 2: and I have two beautiful babies. What else could they

2454
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 2: wish for. Referring to her thirty one day stint and

2455
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 2: rehab last summer, she spoke out against what she described

2456
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 2: as the stigma relating to what she went through and said,

2457
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:53,840
Speaker 2: what I went through wasn't just addressing drugs, alcohol, whatever.

2458
02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:58,360
Speaker 2: It was more beneficial and like life skills. Honestly, in

2459
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 2: a way, I feel like everyone on SHO go to

2460
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,960
Speaker 2: some type of rehal She assisted that the experience had

2461
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 2: been keen resolving her own issues and that she thinks

2462
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 2: people will be surprised at how easy going and normal

2463
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 2: she can be. But what she has described as a

2464
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 2: metamorphosis has so far failed to manifest in the courtroom,

2465
02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:21,600
Speaker 2: where no resolution is being reached. The latest violence coincide

2466
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:24,480
Speaker 2: with Ravenel's returned to Charleston with the children following a

2467
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 2: couple of months in Laquita, California for the winter polo season.

2468
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 2: In a post on Instagram, Winter Polo Season, What you

2469
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 2: went across the country to In a post on Instagram

2470
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:43,200
Speaker 2: on which Ravenel probably bills himself as a father, showed

2471
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 2: him doting over his children. Just last week, he posted

2472
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:50,240
Speaker 2: imagery of images of Kinzy celebrating her third birthday, on

2473
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,120
Speaker 2: the West Coast with balloons and a cupcake. Meanwhile, two

2474
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 2: thousand miles away, Catherine posted to throw back picture of

2475
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:58,880
Speaker 2: herself holding the infant daughter with the words Q the

2476
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 2: tens my daughter, my angel My Kensington Calhoun Ravenel is

2477
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 2: three years old today. There was no sign of Dennis

2478
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 2: at the family home of Charleston when Daily Mail dot

2479
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 2: Com visited last week, and her father, Luke, declined to

2480
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:17,480
Speaker 2: comment on the current legal battle being waged between his

2481
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 2: daughter and her former lover of Ravenel, beyond describing the

2482
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 2: situation as difficult even by the standards of reality television.

2483
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 2: Ravenel and Dennis' relationship has been one of a toward drama,

2484
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 2: as reviewers have tuned in seasoned out to season riveted

2485
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 2: by the compelling enplosion. But court records seen by daily

2486
02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:39,440
Speaker 2: Mail dot Com paint a far darker reality than the

2487
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:42,320
Speaker 2: version served up for public consumption on Bravo TV's popular

2488
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 2: TV show Charting Catherine struggled with drugs and alcohol and

2489
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:51,440
Speaker 2: including disturbing allegations of neglect and abuse. Ravenel reluctantly foiled

2490
02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:53,400
Speaker 2: the suit against Catherine towards the end of last May.

2491
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:55,800
Speaker 2: It was no decision he made lightly as according to

2492
02:14:55,840 --> 02:14:58,040
Speaker 2: that as affidavit, he tried to make their relationship work

2493
02:14:58,120 --> 02:15:00,160
Speaker 2: for the sake of the children, but simply could not.

2494
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 2: He testified, I tried to make our relationship work, but

2495
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 2: Catherine was too unhealthy. When she wanted to control me,

2496
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:11,080
Speaker 2: she would hire to take away either my cell phone,

2497
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 2: wallet or car kids. If I tried to get them back,

2498
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 2: she would accuse me of hitting her. I have never

2499
02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 2: laid a hand on her. In fact, social media posted

2500
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 2: a video of Katherine assault me in New York. But

2501
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 2: despite all this, ravenelraville that he went so far as

2502
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 2: to buy an engaging ring with the intention of asking

2503
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:37,320
Speaker 2: Katherine to marry him. He said, after case y'all Kensingy

2504
02:15:37,400 --> 02:15:42,800
Speaker 2: Calhoun Ravenel was born, I considered marrying Catherine. We went

2505
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 2: and looked for an engagement ring. The very evening after

2506
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 2: I had ordered her ring, Katherine left me with k

2507
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:51,880
Speaker 2: Cyr at home, saying she was going to run errands.

2508
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:55,280
Speaker 2: She said she'd be back by seven pm. She did

2509
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 2: not return back home until after one a m. A similarly,

2510
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 2: affidavit from the children's nanny accuses Katain to prioritizing our

2511
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 2: social life over her children. Nanny Deirdre Beer Poltelli revealed

2512
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 2: how she once found a bong or a handmade smoking

2513
02:16:11,320 --> 02:16:14,520
Speaker 2: device in Catherine's home when doing laundry, and said night

2514
02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 2: after night the children would leave to go out. Most

2515
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 2: of these nights, Katherine would return between one and five am.

2516
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 2: Typically she got up around twelve thirty and three pm

2517
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:30,760
Speaker 2: in the afternoon. According to missus Potelli, Catherine's lifescoal significantly

2518
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,400
Speaker 2: in the field with her ability to care for and

2519
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 2: be engaged in the day the lives of her children.

2520
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:39,000
Speaker 2: In a troubling observation, she added, Catherine seemed to look

2521
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:41,240
Speaker 2: at her children as if they were toys or props

2522
02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:45,080
Speaker 2: and not real children which real needs. She appeared not

2523
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:48,320
Speaker 2: to know the difference between her reality and TV reality.

2524
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:52,400
Speaker 2: This led to constant panic attacks, personal attacks, and creating

2525
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:55,119
Speaker 2: things in her mind that did not happen. The children

2526
02:16:55,160 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 2: of being consistently returned to Thomas's house, wreaking of cigarette smoke,

2527
02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 2: unbathed in dirty clothes with Madden heir. On more than

2528
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:07,720
Speaker 2: one occasion, I have picked Sjr. Saint Julian Robert up

2529
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 2: from Catherine's with such matted hair from it not being

2530
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,040
Speaker 2: brushed or comb that I was forced to cut the

2531
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:17,800
Speaker 2: knots out of his hair. Missus Polytelly, Politelly's daughter Page nineteen,

2532
02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 2: testified that Catherine told her she drank red wine and

2533
02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:24,240
Speaker 2: took out of all during her pregnancy. According to Ravenel,

2534
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:26,840
Speaker 2: he was forced to accept that our children are not

2535
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,760
Speaker 2: safe when they are with Catherine. She's more interested in

2536
02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:33,120
Speaker 2: partying than mothering. I believe she is addicted to drugs

2537
02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 2: and cannot function in a manner conductive conducive to her

2538
02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:41,760
Speaker 2: having caretaking responsibilities for our children. Ravenel made his statement

2539
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:44,360
Speaker 2: prior to catherine stent in rehab last summer, and following

2540
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:47,840
Speaker 2: that stay in September, Catherine was gring to supervised visitation

2541
02:17:48,280 --> 02:17:51,120
Speaker 2: with her children every other weekend. But now, with her

2542
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:53,520
Speaker 2: continued invasion of the latest drug test, Katherine has been

2543
02:17:53,560 --> 02:17:57,680
Speaker 2: placed even that in Jeopardy, Oh white folks.

2544
02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:00,720
Speaker 3: No wonder why they tuned in ever weak right?

2545
02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 2: That made me want to watch it for reck. I

2546
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,119
Speaker 2: have no idea how these people sound. It's just it's

2547
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 2: called southern charm. I assume they sound like Southern debutantes

2548
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:14,560
Speaker 2: and ship I don't know, all right, We've been talking

2549
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 2: long enough, guys. Uh, let's do some sword ratchiness and

2550
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:19,760
Speaker 2: get up out of here.

2551
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

2552
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:23,640
Speaker 2: I guess it will help. UT have my sword sound

2553
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 2: effect on deck. Huh mm hmmm, I do declare I

2554
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:57,000
Speaker 2: can't find my sound effect. Uh, there we go. Video

2555
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,959
Speaker 2: shows a woman confront her neighbor with a samurai sword.

2556
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean sometimes you gotta con front of

2557
02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:05,960
Speaker 2: the motherfucker with the samurai sword.

2558
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:06,320
Speaker 3: Guys.

2559
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you know your neighbor, you have an issue.

2560
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean you could talk it out peacefully and try

2561
02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:20,199
Speaker 2: to make it work, like you know, decent human beings.

2562
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Or you could just fucking pull out a goddamn samurai

2563
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:28,760
Speaker 2: sword like Elon James White when people are moving. Okay, Oh,

2564
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:34,480
Speaker 2: I ain't forgot. I ain't forgot. Albuquerque, New Mexico KOB

2565
02:19:34,640 --> 02:19:37,600
Speaker 2: TV has obtained cell phone video of an Albuquerque woman

2566
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:40,199
Speaker 2: accused of coming at her neighbor with a samurai sword.

2567
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:45,720
Speaker 2: It's unclear Vanessa Morales. It's unclear Vanessa Morales was upset,

2568
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:48,360
Speaker 2: but the video shows her distress. Watch the video, but

2569
02:19:48,520 --> 02:19:50,640
Speaker 2: to see the clip of the video. Don't wanna play?

2570
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh wait, can I play this? I don't know. I

2571
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 2: try to play it guys, We'll see what happens. Oops, no,

2572
02:19:59,080 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 2: what I do anyway?

2573
02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:02,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

2574
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 2: They say she eventually tripped and fell, breaking her satin

2575
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:09,200
Speaker 2: road sword into pieces. She's been told that she can

2576
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:11,720
Speaker 2: maybe she got hit with the iron fist. She's been

2577
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:14,160
Speaker 2: told she can tire home until the case is settled.

2578
02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I started watching Iron Fish, y'all, So yeah,

2579
02:20:18,480 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm catching up. So we'll see what happens with that.

2580
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 2: I will say this, if Claire Temple shows up in

2581
02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:28,640
Speaker 2: your house, run because somebody gonna get fucked up that woman.

2582
02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:31,760
Speaker 2: She only show up the nurse people back to health.

2583
02:20:31,879 --> 02:20:34,879
Speaker 2: That's it. Somebody gonna get they ass whooked. I don't

2584
02:20:34,879 --> 02:20:38,120
Speaker 2: even know why people hang out with Claire. She is

2585
02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:42,920
Speaker 2: a bad omen and also Madam Gal. It got to

2586
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:45,600
Speaker 2: be pissed whoever keeps training these white men in kung

2587
02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:48,080
Speaker 2: fu is fucking up all her nefarious plans for the

2588
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:51,160
Speaker 2: New York area. Okay, she just want to be against God.

2589
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 2: She just want to sell her heroine and move her

2590
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:57,440
Speaker 2: goods throughout the community. And these motherfuckings superpowered white men

2591
02:20:57,560 --> 02:21:01,800
Speaker 2: know you cown food, keep sucking up the whole plan. Embarrassing.

2592
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:02,840
Speaker 3: That's a problem.

2593
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's very difficult to be responsible with

2594
02:21:06,080 --> 02:21:07,959
Speaker 2: who you teach. You comes f too, It's all I'm saying.

2595
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we're back tomorrow. Shows all over the place.

2596
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:14,039
Speaker 2: I don't know how you listen to this, but we'll

2597
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:19,480
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow to do this again. Until then, I

2598
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 2: love you.

2599
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:20,959
Speaker 5: Wh