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Speaker 1: break down what went wrong for Philly, what went right

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Speaker 1: last night for the Falcons? He wandered miles up the turnpike.

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Speaker 1: It's another Tomlin Tuesday, and stop me if you've heard

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Speaker 1: this one before. The store remains the same at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position here. Why the Steelers preparing to stick with

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Speaker 1: going to be here to tell you whether it's time

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Speaker 1: us to punch in. Welcome inside with the insiders alongside

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista and Mike Gira Bulo. I am Tom Pellaicero.

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Speaker 1: We have a ton of news. We've got games to

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Speaker 2: But let's start out.

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Speaker 1: Right now with the guy who's not going to be

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Mike and Ian rappaport to a

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Speaker 1: tug of Iloa is headed to injured Reserve officially placed

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Speaker 1: he suffered on Thursday night. That means that Tua is

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Speaker 2: This gives some clarity while also.

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Speaker 1: Avoiding the day to day, week by week questions, at

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Speaker 3: On the field.

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Speaker 4: From the Dolphins standpoint is, it provides to a tugo

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Speaker 4: We are told neurologists, multiple neurologists, this is not going

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Speaker 4: ioloa to go through the process and for doctors and

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Speaker 4: experts to determine when it is safe for him to

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Speaker 3: To his intention to continue his career.

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Speaker 4: That being said, everyone needs to be on board and

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Speaker 4: and when he receives that clearedge duty. Week eight against

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Speaker 3: The first time that he can return.

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Speaker 4: It first, Sam, he's eligible, but the Dolphins are committed

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Speaker 4: to placing.

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Speaker 3: No timeline on him.

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Speaker 4: Every time he've been asked for a timeline, Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 3: They are still going to continue to resist that.

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Speaker 6: This also sample time for the first step, which is

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Speaker 7: When might he return? Could he possibly play soon?

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Speaker 1: Unlet's remind people here every NFL player is subject to

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Speaker 1: Again, there are NFL players who have had more concussions

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Right, And that is why they are sticking with Justin

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: But they're winning the game.

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Speaker 6: But you're right, he has not had to win the game, right,

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Speaker 6: They have not said, you got to pass the ball

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Speaker 6: But you wouldn't change now, because how would you go

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Speaker 6: So it's obvious that they stick with Justin Fields now.

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Speaker 6: And the question is if it gets to a point

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Speaker 4: I think he's Two things are helping Justin Fields hold

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Speaker 3: He is doing that perfectly right now, like just perfectly.

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Speaker 4: So as this continues and the Steelers say, okay, now.

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Speaker 3: It's like your kid, right, you know, you get upset

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Speaker 4: And then as you show us a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the way it is with Justin Fields

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Speaker 4: So that's helping them because well there's still more upset

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Speaker 3: Did you get all those metaphors? I hope so, I

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Speaker 1: I was lost, you really lost me on that one

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Speaker 3: They're not creating havoc upfront.

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Speaker 6: Because it was so bad, so porous last night, that

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Speaker 7: No pressure on Cousins, no pressure on Cousins.

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Speaker 6: They weren't getting any kind of pass rush.

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Speaker 7: You know they are. This was something that we saw

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Speaker 6: It's why he was brought in to fix the defense.

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Speaker 4: In a hurrine Judy, you talked about the second half

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Speaker 4: Pretty good to not go back there, to not have

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Speaker 1: So that's of how that came about last night. Well,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm not the first time it's happened, number one.

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Speaker 3: Then, and there a lot more on that game in

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Speaker 1: Bick Sirianni didn't sound like he had heard that part

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Speaker 1: We also had a running back injury, Isaiah to check

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Speaker 1: And how about this an old friend coming back to

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Speaker 1: This year for Checko hurt in Week two. Now Hunt

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Speaker 7: That's Mark Ross.

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Speaker 6: That's Brian Baldinger here to talk about one of the

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Speaker 7: Baldy Let's start with you. The Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 7: What happened here?

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Speaker 9: A couple of things. You know, New Orleans made to

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Speaker 9: drafted tally Esa Fuaga, who looks to be as good

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Speaker 2: And then Kamara is healthy, so they're very coordinated.

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Speaker 9: They moved Dallas off spot all day. They stretched them,

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Speaker 5: They go left.

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Speaker 9: Faga just moves the line of scrimmage and it's actually

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Speaker 9: that left. But to answer your question, Judy, Dallas got

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Speaker 9: There is no run fits to what they do. Defensively.

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Speaker 9: They're not a sound defense the way they play. They're

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Speaker 5: Well ball, You're right. When I was doing covering the

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Speaker 5: Every touchdown it was four yards. They're blowing Dallas off

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Speaker 5: there's nobody really like them, maybe Miami, But once things

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Speaker 5: get tough, they just haven't been able to show the

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Speaker 5: ability to respond. So that's something to bear watching. But

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Speaker 5: got to give a lot of credit to the Saints

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Speaker 5: in that front. You mentioned two of those guys and

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Speaker 5: the hustle at Ruiz. You saw more hustle out of

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Speaker 5: hittingan a lot of those Dallas defenders that that whole

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Speaker 5: game so had added to the misery as well.

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Speaker 6: Maybe one of the biggest surprises of the season the

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Speaker 6: early part of the season, the Saints are two. No,

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Speaker 6: And when we return on The Insiders, we're going to

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Speaker 6: talk about two teams that are zero and two. I

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Speaker 6: don't think any of them saw this coming. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 6: and the Baltimore Ravens and Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bangles.

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Speaker 6: I just saw Joe Berrow got snatched by his own

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Speaker 6: teammate there. When we come back, Jip joins the show.

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Speaker 1: Time now for Tuesday Takeaways presented by Chipotle. Here on

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Speaker 1: The Insiders, Tom Pella Sero joined now by Jeffrey Chadia. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I haven't eaten dinner. I'm just thinking about delicious bridos

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Speaker 1: right now. You've been thinking though about those zero to

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Speaker 1: two teams like the Ravens, a team the nomine people

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Speaker 1: would have believed.

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Speaker 2: Would be in this position at this stage in the season.

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Speaker 1: Let's start out with a couple of teams that at

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Speaker 1: this point you still have patients for after two weeks.

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Speaker 10: Bosh the Ravens time and probably because look, we knew

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Speaker 10: they were going to have offensive line problems. Seeing that

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Speaker 10: trying to replace three starters from last year, it's been

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Speaker 10: tough to block people. We knew the defense was going

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Speaker 10: to have growing pains great and new coordinator dak Ord.

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Speaker 5: You've seen from the defensive breakdowns in the.

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Speaker 10: Past game like sat Devonte Adams with a big play there.

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Speaker 10: But ultimately this team is still a handful of plays

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Speaker 10: away from being two to zero.

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Speaker 5: And I trust their talent.

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Speaker 10: I trust John Harbo, I trust a two time MVP,

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Speaker 10: and Lamar Jackson some boy patience here. I think they

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Speaker 10: got a tough schedule with the Cowboys, the Builds and

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Speaker 10: the Bengals coming up, but they'll be okay.

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Speaker 5: And the Bengals here I just mentioned them.

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Speaker 10: I like them at oh too because they know what

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Speaker 10: it's like to be over too and get yourself out

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Speaker 10: of it. You saw Joe Burrow really light up the

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Speaker 10: Kantasey Chiefs yesterday on Sunday, And what I really loved

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Speaker 10: about the Bengals was just that not having t Higgins there,

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Speaker 10: he saw some role player step up there. Mike Oseecki,

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Speaker 10: Andre jose About, you saw Dremaine Burton make a big

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Speaker 10: play and again that defense is going to be just fine.

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Speaker 10: So I think both those teams will be in the

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Speaker 10: playoffs come January.

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Speaker 1: Andre Usivas the Princeton I believe hepta athlete is a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete, but he was out there making plays in

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Speaker 1: that game. Bengals still a very dangerous team, just one

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Speaker 1: that always seems to start by playing terrible in September.

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Speaker 1: Then they get better as the season goes along. All right, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: how about.

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Speaker 2: An zero to two team that you are ready to

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Speaker 2: panic about?

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Speaker 10: Oh rams on full scale panicking right now. You go

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Speaker 10: into Arizona, where Sean McVay has been thirteen and two

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Speaker 10: before this weekend, you get crushed.

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Speaker 5: This team right now has got huge issues with the injuries.

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Speaker 5: No Coopa Nakula, no Cooper Cup for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 5: They can't run the football.

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Speaker 10: Their defense is giving up huge play Jameson Williams torched

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Speaker 10: him in week one. You saw Marvin Harrison go off

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Speaker 10: in week two. So I don't know where Sean mcfaith

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Speaker 10: starts for trying to fix this. From here, I'll go

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Speaker 10: to Jacksonville, where the problems again are on offense, and

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Speaker 10: it's really the quarterback here because Trevor Lawrence is completing

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Speaker 10: fifty one percent of his passes, Gily has one touchdown

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Speaker 10: pass and his offense just can't seem.

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Speaker 5: To get it going.

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Speaker 10: They scored thirty points in the first two weeks, and

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Speaker 10: we really think about it.

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Speaker 5: Lawrence has lost the last seven.

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Speaker 10: Games he had started with this team, and so this

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Speaker 10: team was in free fall last year and it's seen what.

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Speaker 10: They can't really find their mojo again this time around.

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Speaker 5: Got Houston and Buffalo coming up.

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Speaker 10: I don't like their odds and winning those games staying

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Speaker 10: in the division.

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Speaker 5: I'll go to the Colts where again quarterback issues here.

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Speaker 10: A lot less was expected of Anthony Richardson because he's

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Speaker 10: in his second year.

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Speaker 5: He didn't play a lot last year because of injuries.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's at forty nine percent completion rate, but just

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Speaker 10: the growing pains here too.

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Speaker 5: Just inconsisted offensively. He's completing forty nine percent of.

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Speaker 10: His passes and the defense can't stop anybody from running

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Speaker 10: the football. The kay Packers came in with Malik Willis,

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Speaker 10: ran the ball down and fold with Josh Jacobs. They

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Speaker 10: saw a lot of Joe Mixon in week one or

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Speaker 10: he had one hundred and fifty nine yards rushing.

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Speaker 5: So you got defensive problems, you got quarterback problems. I

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Speaker 5: can't get behind that right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to panic if I don't get a Chipotle

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Speaker 1: burrito very soon. Don't get in there anything, he said,

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Speaker 1: But Jeffrey, thank you very much for being here. Mean, well,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons they're just eating W's y.

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Speaker 5: He's obviously right.

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Speaker 11: We said pivot, we said persist, and that's the dealing.

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Speaker 11: That's how you go deal. Hey man, nobody can blake.

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Speaker 11: Don't nobody blake. That's who we are. This is who

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Speaker 11: we gonna be, right. I'm know we happy about this moment,

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Speaker 11: but who's next game?

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Speaker 5: Ball, Hey tells Atlanta Falcons go down.

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Speaker 4: Rockey Morris happy to see that it's been a long

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Speaker 4: time coming for his second stint as an NFL coach.

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Speaker 4: There's his first win, UH with the Atlanta Falcons in

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Speaker 4: his return to Atlanta. Mark Ross, Ryan Baldinger joining me here,

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Speaker 4: Mike Carolfon, we want to talk about both sides of

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Speaker 4: this game, Uh, control room, you can roll it. This

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Speaker 4: was the walk off Kirk Cousins last night. Because as

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Speaker 4: I ask you about Kirk Cousins, Mark, you and your

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Speaker 4: front of his perspective. At the end of this long

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Speaker 4: walk you're going to see a hug between Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: and Terry Funto the general manager of the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 4: which they probably were not hugging on draft night round

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Speaker 4: one because Cousin was a little up seventy pick of

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Speaker 4: Michael Pennix. But the difference that people see now Mark

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Speaker 4: and what you see Kirk Cousins week one to week

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Speaker 4: two is certainly when it ends this way.

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Speaker 5: Sure, he won the game, and he made clutch plays

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Speaker 5: at the end there, and that's what you really want

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Speaker 5: from your quarterback, doesn't matter how much you struggle for

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Speaker 5: a game, and then almost three quarters or whatever, when

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Speaker 5: it housed the most, he came through. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I was around the guy for two Super Bowls who

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Speaker 5: struggle a lot, and then when it needed him to

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Speaker 5: come through, he came through big. And my man Eli

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Speaker 5: Manning so put the falcons and talking about Terry Fonto,

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Speaker 5: which I was down there during camp covering them. They

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Speaker 5: won undred percent believe in Kirk Cousins. So even if

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Speaker 5: he didn't do that last night and he didn't win

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Speaker 5: and they didn't come through, they're still going to keep

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Speaker 5: playing Kirk Cousins because they have that belief in him. Moore, Hey, coach,

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Speaker 5: they believe in Kirk Cousins. And I know it's easy

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Speaker 5: to say, okay, if he struggles get Michael Pennix in there,

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Speaker 5: and of course the fans are going to do that,

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Speaker 5: but the organization itself, the people who really matter, and

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Speaker 5: that's Terry Potto and Raheem worth percent believe in Kirk

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Speaker 5: Cousins and what he can do. Last night was only

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Speaker 5: more validation for Kirk Cousins and the organization. Of course,

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Speaker 5: you're expecting him to get a little healthier with the

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Speaker 5: Achilles because it still doesn't look like he's moving around

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Speaker 5: one percent. But as he works himself into that gets healthier, Mike,

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Speaker 5: I think you'll see a better Kirk Cousins and the

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Speaker 5: way they ran the ball last night and the way

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Speaker 5: the defense played, if they can continue that formula, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't all have to be on Kirk.

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Speaker 4: I go back to the first block of the show

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Speaker 4: here when Tom Pellisero said, if Sakwon Barkley catches the ball,

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Speaker 4: every conversation we're having today is completely different. But Baldy,

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Speaker 4: here we are an extremely disappointing loss for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: I saw your post.

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Speaker 4: On X this morning regarding some of the stuff that

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Speaker 4: you saw you didn't like, So let's talk about schemesonnel, offense, defense,

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Speaker 4: What don't we like.

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Speaker 3: About what we're seeing from the Eagles right now?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think you know from a run defense standpoint,

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Speaker 9: right now, Mike, you know they've seen Josh Jacobs and

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Speaker 9: b John Robinson in their backups. They're giving up over

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Speaker 9: six yards of cart I mean, nobody once said on

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Speaker 9: the resume. And so you see right here, like there's

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Speaker 9: they're running right at Bryce Hup. He has not been

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Speaker 9: he's ever had to play really the run before they

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Speaker 9: gave up this touchdown throw. Obviously, they've given up four

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Speaker 9: touchdown passes the two games. They were second worst in

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Speaker 9: the league. They gave up thirty five a year ago.

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Speaker 9: Only Washington gave up more touchdown passes. You know they're

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Speaker 9: making these like you missed his tackle right here on

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Speaker 9: Darnell Mooney.

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Speaker 5: You got to get him down to the ground.

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Speaker 9: You can't let him walk in the end zone forty

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Speaker 9: one yards and do a flip in front of your

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Speaker 9: home crowd. I'd say the pass defense isn't concern because

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Speaker 9: the pass trutches in there, Mic, it hasn't been. There

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Speaker 9: wasn't there in Green Bay, down in Brazil, and it

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Speaker 9: wasn't there last night, especially on that final drive and

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Speaker 9: that's a concern because they've got.

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Speaker 2: Three high first round picks on that line that have

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Speaker 2: not done much.

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Speaker 9: They paid a lot of money to Bryce Huff to

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Speaker 9: get out to the quarterback and they're not doing that

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Speaker 9: right now. And so this team is built around being

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Speaker 9: really good in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: They've been excellent on the offensive line in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line is.

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Speaker 9: A concern, and if you want to stop giving up

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Speaker 9: big plays, it always starts up front.

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Speaker 2: So run defense right now and then just getting after.

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Speaker 9: The quarterback has been an issue in both games, and

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Speaker 9: that would raise I don't care what your record is.

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Speaker 9: If Saquon catches that ball in near two to zero,

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Speaker 9: they would still be the same concerns for me going

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Speaker 9: into New Orleans this week.

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Speaker 4: Dalen Carter, the defensive tackle, did not start the game

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Speaker 4: last night, as Jeff McLain of The Inquirer and affiliate

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Speaker 4: first reported, he was late for a team function. So accountability,

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Speaker 4: whether on the field off the field, has got to

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Speaker 4: be found with.

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Speaker 3: That Eagles defense. Mark Russ Brian Baldinger appreciates you very much.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at our navil dot com Power rankings.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles down to sixth the airbla By dropped two

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Speaker 4: spots if I heard that in my ear just now.

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Speaker 3: Correctly, So still in the top ten.

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Speaker 4: But if they lose to the number eighteen, well you

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Speaker 4: guarantee they'll be lower than the number eighteen.

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Speaker 3: And will they be in the top ten? Will the

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Speaker 3: Jets be in the top ten soon?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and his.

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Speaker 4: Crew have a chance to make a statement for that

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Speaker 4: against the Patriots this Thursday night. We're going to go

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Speaker 4: inside the numbers, behind the numbers, all around the numbers.

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Speaker 3: With nixt Jet stats coming up.

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets already very well traveled during this

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Speaker 1: young season. Sorry ought with that Monday night game across

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Speaker 1: the country in Santa Clara. They better last week at

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Speaker 1: Tennessee getting their first win, and now finally the home

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Speaker 1: opener Thursday night against Patriots.

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Speaker 12: It's been a long time since I took the field

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Speaker 12: at Jetlife, so be a lot of emotions for sure,

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Speaker 12: but we're thankfully already ended the third game of the season,

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Speaker 12: played two full games. Body feels good as good as

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Speaker 12: you can on the short week. But it'll be fun

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Speaker 12: to be out there with the crowd and night games.

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Speaker 12: I love night games, so excited about it. You know,

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Speaker 12: no one's real crazy about Thursday games, but everybody loves

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Speaker 12: the Thursday the weekend after Thursday games. They're typical Patriot defense.

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Speaker 12: You know, they play really sound football, uh smart, They

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Speaker 12: have a lot they have a lot of techniques you

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Speaker 12: don't see across some other teams, as far as.

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Speaker 5: Some defensive line stuff the front.

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Speaker 12: Often a few disguise the pressure pretty well. Back end season,

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Speaker 12: we playing pretty good together, so it's a it's a

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Speaker 12: really a smart, stout, solid defense front to back.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in Sam Schwarzstein Prime Video on Thursday and

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Speaker 1: Football's analytics expert to use next gen stats to help

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Speaker 1: us break down this Thursday night matchup. Sam, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of changes obviously in New England. You've watched that

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Speaker 1: defense for years with Bill Belichick. What kind of changes

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Speaker 1: are you noticing now with Drod Mayo at the controls.

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Speaker 13: They have a lot of the same. But I would

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Speaker 13: say it's even crazier. I spend a lot of time

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Speaker 13: trying to break down this defense, trying to find a tendency.

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Speaker 5: Can I get a tell?

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Speaker 2: And you really can't.

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Speaker 13: Because of the three safeties, they only have one player

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Speaker 13: that plays over sixty five percent of the time lined

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Speaker 13: up at the safety position.

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Speaker 3: He'll never know where they are.

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Speaker 13: Kyle Duggart listed as a safety will often be in

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Speaker 13: the box as a blitzer. You see we have Jibrol

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Speaker 13: Pepper's blitzing, and then Jalen Hawkins will often line up deep,

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Speaker 13: even at Jonathan Jones play in the deep safety. When

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Speaker 13: you talk the teams across the league, it's so hard

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Speaker 13: to identify who's the key for each play against Patriots,

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Speaker 13: what happens next is Aaron Rodgers. He's the guy who

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Speaker 13: might be able to figure this defense out because of

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Speaker 13: his elite processing. When he's able to understand pre Stapp

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Speaker 13: exactly where he wants to go with the ball, he

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Speaker 13: is one of the best fifth.

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Speaker 5: And success rate.

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Speaker 13: But when he is not able to process and they

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Speaker 13: not able to find the open guy, that's where he struggles.

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Speaker 13: He spends the most time at the line of scrimma

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Speaker 13: is trying to figure it out. He's the one who

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Speaker 13: can break it down.

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Speaker 1: This week, the Patriots offense under Alex van Pelt, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a throwback.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of this bruising style.

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Speaker 1: They're really not throwing the ball down the field at

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Speaker 1: least through the first couple of games here. What do

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Speaker 1: you like a though, what the Patriots are doing on

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Speaker 1: offense and how do they attack this Jets defense.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Tom, there's a run game renaissance going on in

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Speaker 13: the NFL. They run the ball seventy two percent of

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Speaker 13: the time on first down, so the other team knows

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Speaker 13: what's coming, but they force you to tackle over ninety

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Speaker 13: percent of the yards come after content and why this

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Speaker 13: is super important. They're playing the Jets and using next

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Speaker 13: Gen Stats new tackle efficiency stat which measures how good

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Speaker 13: you are at getting the player down and your tackle opportunities.

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Speaker 13: The Jets are the second worst team in the NFL

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Speaker 13: or one of the worst teams in the NFL getting

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Speaker 13: the players down.

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Speaker 1: Sam, Thank you very much, look forward to watching you

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Jets Patriots is Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Night on Prime Video and you can also follow the

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Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats alternate stream. Marlin's coverage on the Patriots

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Speaker 1: at Jets on Prime Video and NFL Plus begins at

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Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern with TNF tonight. That also means on

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Speaker 1: Thursday you're gonna get the insiders in a little different place.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on the NFL channel on fast

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Speaker 1: streaming platforms. They're free apps in your smart TV. Download

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Speaker 1: one of them right now. You can catch that show

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Speaker 1: six pm Eastern time tomorrow, or watch you an NFL

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Speaker 1: Plus or watch it on YouTube. We are here at

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Speaker 1: NFL Network and NFL Plus Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday at seven

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern and then a Monday YouTube special every week

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Speaker 1: at six pm Eastern dot We're everywhere, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: even mention the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You should also be downloading that.

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers made a massive move on Monday, benching the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick in last year's NFL draft after just.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Where do things go from here for Carolina with a

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Speaker 1: dy Dalton in the line.

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Speaker 2: What happens with Bryce Young?

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss it next On the inside.

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young is two and sixteen as an NFL starter,

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Speaker 6: and it's apparently going to be a little while before you.

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Speaker 7: Can change that record.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday, Dave Canalis benched the former first overall draft pick.

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Speaker 6: It's unclear what comes next for Young or for the Panthers,

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Speaker 6: quite frankly, who.

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Speaker 7: Will go with Andy Balton.

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Speaker 6: For the time being, it's time for ask the ace

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Speaker 6: is presented by Ace Hardware. That's why we brought in

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Speaker 6: our own front office Ace, Mark Ross, to answer some

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Speaker 6: of these very tricky questions about what's going on.

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Speaker 7: All right, Mark, let's start with the obvious one.

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Speaker 6: What did you think of how the Carolina Panthers handled

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Speaker 6: the Bryce Young situation?

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Speaker 5: Well, the latest it's almost saving him from himself, but

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Speaker 5: in benching him, but handling it from the start. Since

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young got there, Judy has just been a terrible

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Speaker 5: almost You know, you thought, this is always a fear

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Speaker 5: when you need to draft someone number one, And at

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Speaker 5: that time we thought they had a good infrastructure for

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young, but what was really lacking was there was

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Speaker 5: just no talent around him. So you saw him struggle

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Speaker 5: mightily last season. You think this year bringing in Dave Canalis,

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Speaker 5: the offensive minded head coach, would help him out. But really,

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Speaker 5: when I watched Bryce Young, it's just he has not

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Speaker 5: even a lack of confidence duty it's just no confidence

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Speaker 5: at all. In Alabama, he was known for his playmaking,

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Speaker 5: envision and confidence and moxie and savvy, and he just

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Speaker 5: looks as if he's just almost a shot fighter so

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Speaker 5: young into his career. And this doesn't mean his career

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Speaker 5: is over, but at this point, it's almost saving him

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Speaker 5: from himself. And the Bryce Young situation is even worse

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Speaker 5: in retrospect of that c J. Stroud got taken right

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Speaker 5: after him, and how well CJ. Stroud has performed in

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Speaker 5: resurrecting the Texans organization, and then also in retrospect of

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Speaker 5: what the Panthers gave up to get Bryce Young. So

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Speaker 5: many players and so many draft picks to get Pryce Young.

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Speaker 5: So all of that combined, Judy has just made this

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Speaker 5: situation even worse. But for Bryce Young himself, I hope

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Speaker 5: that he can sit back, take some time off and

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Speaker 5: watch the game and get his confidence back up, because

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Speaker 5: he almost almost Hill had for the young man at

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Speaker 5: this point.

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Speaker 6: Judy absolutely obviously Bryce Young had a difficult rookie season two.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the rookie quarterbacks this year. No touchdown

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Speaker 6: passes at all from any of them. Is this a

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Speaker 6: cause for concern or is this just the normal growing pains?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's a lot of growing pains, and

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Speaker 5: each one is different, Each case is different when you

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Speaker 5: look at these rookie quarterbacks, just as if last year

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Speaker 5: the Bryce Young situation was different from the CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 5: and Lasting Williams. There are flashes there. You see some flashes,

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Speaker 5: but overall, that offensive line is not good enough. We

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Speaker 5: talked about the playmakers all season that he had and

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Speaker 5: thought the offensive line would be better, but they have

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Speaker 5: not been and he's under seed a lot, so they've

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Speaker 5: got to fix that. Dave Daniel is actually probably playing

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Speaker 5: better than anybody. He's run a lot, done a lot

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Speaker 5: with his legs and they kicked the seven field goals

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Speaker 5: yesterday to beat the Giants, but just couldn't get it

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Speaker 5: into the end zone. Showed flashes in game one and

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Speaker 5: then bo Nix really looks like he's a long ways away.

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Speaker 5: Of course, that was a surprising pick that they took him.

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton, they knew that was his guy, but at

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Speaker 5: this point the fears he had at Oregon where he

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Speaker 5: was just the short passing game, couldn't push it down

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Speaker 5: the field, couldn't make a lot of plays. You're seeing

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Speaker 5: that play into effects. So I think this week a

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Speaker 5: couple of those guys to get some touchdowns. Duty fingers crossed.

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Speaker 6: Mark Ross, thank you, but really you should stick around

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Speaker 6: for the flip side of this conversation because when we

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Speaker 6: return on the Insiders, we're going to talk about a

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Speaker 6: quarterback we have no concerns about whatsoever, and we probably

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Speaker 6: won't have any concerns about him for the rest of

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Speaker 6: his career.

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Speaker 7: That guy, Patrick bones.

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Speaker 1: A lot of great performances in week two. These you

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Speaker 1: can vote for the Pepsi zero Sugar Rookie of the Week.

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Speaker 1: Go to nfl dot com slash Rookies. Is it Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels twenty three to twenty nine, two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: six yards and ninety nine point one passer rating that

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Speaker 1: let's be on his Marvin Harrison Junior is probably taking

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Speaker 1: it home because everybody saw those highlights.

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Speaker 2: They were pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of highlights, Happy twenty ninth birthday to Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: A guy really did not get an opportunity in his

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Speaker 1: rookie year and then year two the Terreid Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: He stepped in and became maybe the greatest player we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen it. Oh, by the way, he's probably not

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Speaker 1: even halfway through his career at this point. Look what

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Speaker 1: he's accomplished through his age twenty eight year. This is

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Speaker 1: amongst starting quarterbacks since nineteen fifty prior to their twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth birthday.

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Speaker 2: It's all Mahomes. He is the best super Bowl wins.

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Speaker 1: You might remember the other guy. He worn number twelve

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Speaker 1: in New England. He's the only other one who got

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Speaker 1: three super Bowl wins there. But Mahomes already to welcome

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Speaker 1: you back to the Insiders Top Milaicero with Judy Batista

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Speaker 1: and Mike Garrifolo. Judy, he is on that track where

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Speaker 1: he has the opportunity to start approaching some of those

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Speaker 1: records that for a long time seemed untouchable.

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Speaker 6: The Brady super Bowl number is the one that I

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Speaker 6: thought when Brady retired, like there's no way anybody's going

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Speaker 6: to get even close to this. But don't forget there

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Speaker 6: was that long gap in Brady's career where they didn't

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Speaker 6: win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: So with Mahomes his home, is he going to catch them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean he could catch them.

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Speaker 4: Always amazed by guys who accomplished this much and yet

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Speaker 4: still want more, and Patrick Holmes does. If you saw

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Speaker 4: in the Quarterback Series he wanted to win the thing

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Speaker 4: is the carnival. His wife was doing it and he

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Speaker 4: couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: He's very competitive. Good for you, Patrick, Heavy

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Speaker 1: Birthday insiders tomorrow, fast streaming platforms, NFL Channel'll see you there.