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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It is uh the day after yeah Armageddon in Cleveland. Yes,

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Speaker 1: winners Monday. You know, Steelers are above five trade deadlines

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. I know we're talking Steelers right

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Speaker 1: off the bat here, of course, but things are happening quick.

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Speaker 1: We've got some crazy injuries report from this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: Steelers right back in the mix of the Division two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so for really everything everything right right. You

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Speaker 1: got to three game winning streak. Things happen, yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you look at yesterday's game. Um

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Speaker 1: one of us called it, the other one did not.

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Speaker 1: I was worried. You thought that the Browns were gonna

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run the run defense, and um, certainly that

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Speaker 1: was a concern, but it was also a concern for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. And I think the thing that kind of

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Speaker 1: got lost a little bit. First of all, any time

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Speaker 1: I've done this a long time, but when they have

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Speaker 1: when they have games where they give up, where they

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Speaker 1: get gash for some yardage, it's always the same thing

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Speaker 1: over and over again, has been for twenty eight years.

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Speaker 1: We got guys getting out of their gaps. We got

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Speaker 1: guys not not keeping their gap integrity. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's pretty rare that a defensive lineman is gets

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Speaker 1: pushed eight yards down the field right like usually they

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Speaker 1: you know, they get moved a little, but they don't

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Speaker 1: stay in their gaps or stays. You don't see massive

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Speaker 1: holes like you do in some college games you could

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Speaker 1: drive a car through and things of that nature. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you want to stop a running back in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you can stop a running back in the end. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: you know you can sell out. You can sell out

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Speaker 1: and do it. Uh. And I thought the Steelers did

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that yesterday, not a ton as

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlan talked about after the game when they did

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Speaker 1: get hit with a couple of runs by Nick Chubb. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know the twenty one yard or in particularly in

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Speaker 1: the third quarter. Um, they were playing play action passed

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Speaker 1: there because the Browns in the first half of the

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Speaker 1: game didn't run the ball much on first down. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of passing on first down. And then later

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Speaker 1: in the game was when they started running the ball

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Speaker 1: more on first down. Chubb only had I think it

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Speaker 1: was ten carries. It was ten carries for forty one

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Speaker 1: year or no eleven carries for forty yards on first down.

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Speaker 1: That's not just Chubb, but that's what the Browns. That's

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Speaker 1: what the Browns had. But that included the first play

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Speaker 1: he got around the end. They had they had the

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Speaker 1: things sniffed out. Okay, they got penetration into the backfield.

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Speaker 1: He's good. He got around this, got around the edge,

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Speaker 1: got four teen yards. So on the the there are

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Speaker 1: other ten first down runs they got two point three

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Speaker 1: or two point seven carry. I mean, he finished the

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Speaker 1: day with sixty one yard and you mentioned the twenty

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Speaker 1: one yard or in that run. That doesn't leave much else.

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Speaker 1: They did a really good job on him, bottling him up.

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Speaker 1: And not related to Browns to to kind of get

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Speaker 1: you can run play action when you're not running the football,

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Speaker 1: but it's not super effective when you're not sure you

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Speaker 1: know it's it's not quite as effective early in the game,

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Speaker 1: like the first quarter net opening drive by Cleveland. UM

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Speaker 1: on my live file, I'm getting a lot of these

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Speaker 1: bronze receivers are wide open, then why are why are

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Speaker 1: they playing these soft zones? Because that's what you do

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Speaker 1: when you're you're selling out. You can't start to run,

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Speaker 1: you can't you can't play press man and heavy. It's

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Speaker 1: a little risky get one up over the top. So

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Speaker 1: you you place a softer zone, you attack the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage to stop the run, you tackle the catch,

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Speaker 1: and then you get what what happens drops um you know,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback overthrowing receiver. All millions of things that can

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Speaker 1: happen bad. That was classic Steelers defense yesterday. What was

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Speaker 1: that Play a soft zone. Let the quarterback make the mistake,

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Speaker 1: Let the opposing offense make a mistake, whether it be

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Speaker 1: an overthrow and dropped past a penalty. We're gonna stop

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Speaker 1: the run. You will not run the ball against us

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Speaker 1: like Taylor comes up and tackles the catchackle, and we're

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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't even blitz much, which is not

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Speaker 1: exactly there's a random thought. Um I thought warmly, maybe

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Speaker 1: played his best game as a Steeler. You know, not spectacular,

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Speaker 1: but we don't need spectacular. You know, the Cam and

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Speaker 1: Waddle do the spectacular. Just the gap integrity was obviously

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Speaker 1: I mean I heard that word times. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: every postgame thing I heard was, well, we had our gap,

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Speaker 1: integrity was better. You know, we were silent, you know,

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Speaker 1: holding their gap, and of course, and that was priority one,

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Speaker 1: without question, was was shutting down their play. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I thought those two played really well, which they do

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Speaker 1: when they're not taking on guards all day long, and

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Speaker 1: they were a little better when they had to do

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Speaker 1: that as well. And I thought Bush the speed showed up,

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Speaker 1: Showbert made a lot of plays, you know, UM mentioned warmly.

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Speaker 1: But all in all, you know, I maybe overrated the

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Speaker 1: Browns passing game and ability to to do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I figured the Steelers would take some run away, but

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Speaker 1: I also thought that d lineman not named Hayward would

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Speaker 1: be kicked back more than they were. They played very

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Speaker 1: very well, and I give the defense credit. Um. They

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Speaker 1: clearly accomplished their number one goal, which was taken away

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Speaker 1: the run. Make Mayfield and injured receivers beat you, and

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Speaker 1: they were highly incapable of doing that, and the Browns

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Speaker 1: red zone offense going into that game was not They

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Speaker 1: were like touchdown rate didn't help themselves in this game. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know Mayfield, you know I I'm sitting next to

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Speaker 1: tow uh dan ko I wrote back with Dayn Kohlvokovic

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Speaker 1: from from Cleveland. Well that that was a beating up

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Speaker 1: Brown's team, Like who's healthy right now? Right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're not a pillar of health, but few teams are.

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Speaker 1: Steelers could have used the lulu and to it, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean there's like, yeah, you think that

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Speaker 1: makes any difference in that guy. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear at this point about anybody's injuries because we're made

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Speaker 1: way through the season. Everybody's missing guys at this point.

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Speaker 1: And some big good dreams I mentioned happened just yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And if a guy's on the field, he's healthy. That

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Speaker 1: was the other he said, Well Chubb Chubb was wasn't

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Speaker 1: We don't know that. I didn't think Chubb looked bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't think their receivers are closed a percent, but

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Speaker 1: I don't trust them anyway. They lost Conkland during the game.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have Award. Yeah, they're banged up, but it's November,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's Halloween. I mean, that's how

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Speaker 1: everything is at this point. The quarterbacks aren't elevating those

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Speaker 1: didn't have t J. Watt and Alex Highsmith. You think

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Speaker 1: get the Browns at a good time? Sure, I guess so,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they were The Browns were healthier than

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Speaker 1: I expected them to beat. To be very honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know all those guys who play, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of them didn't look hobbled or you know, beat

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Speaker 1: thing to comment on, but the defense not only shut

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Speaker 1: the run so down down so well, but they were

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Speaker 1: so clutch, you know, Like even that first drive, I'm

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Speaker 1: I was right, this is this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: when they were on their heels to start the game,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and a red zone sack and yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fumble they created was at a very

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Speaker 1: freaking Chubb in the best offense, the best run blocking

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Speaker 1: Treader with Chubb, that's hard to stop. You try to

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Speaker 1: every series the defense came up big, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: stat line. All those stats were good, but do your

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Speaker 1: one just pounded up the middle. Yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: like like fourth and one, fourth and one. You got

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Speaker 1: the number one rushing attack in the league. They were,

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Speaker 1: they feared the Steelers. The Steelers got enough tackles for

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Speaker 1: What happened. I thought, for sure, I'm like, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: If it was fourth and eight and you're not sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe a punt and you live for another day.

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Speaker 1: But I was thoroughly impressed with the Steelers defense, I

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Speaker 1: thought they're tackling was better. I thought they got more

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Speaker 1: And um, it was a pretty impressive show. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a desk po to write. Both scores came on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers had punted on three and out, I'm like

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Speaker 1: that that could that could be it right there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it didn't feel like Steelers, don't you know. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: they've been so timely in clutch with their stops. It's

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Speaker 1: a hard thing to do for conly, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. They got the best out of them, and

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Speaker 1: The kicker problems are massive. We know the Steelers aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna score touchdowns drive after drive after drive on offense.

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Speaker 1: I would consider putting him in the right tackle. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel super strong about the chemistry if they

426
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Speaker 1: got yeah, because they didn't developing. Yeah. Um. I also

427
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Speaker 1: was really impressed and I have been more and more

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Speaker 1: each game with Trey Turner. Early in the season, like

429
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Speaker 1: everybody else, I kind of looked at him is I

430
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Speaker 1: wonder how much of that was the guys around him

431
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Speaker 1: to playing with a rookie center and he's on a

432
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Speaker 1: new team. Um yeah, I think he's been You know,

433
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Speaker 1: I saw good the status yet from last week there

434
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Speaker 1: was that chart when we had laboral on. Um. You

435
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: know he graded out as the middle of the pack

436
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Speaker 1: in terms of of guards of guard play. Yeah okay, yeah,

437
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. When you signed him and you know, you'll

438
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Speaker 1: take that their Their line doesn't have to be awesome.

439
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: It needs to be physical and it needs to not

440
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Speaker 1: make mistakes. They're doing that consistently every week now. And

441
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: they were best opponents. Yeah, they were at the bottom

442
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: of the list on football siders the thirties, first, thirty, second,

443
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Speaker 1: wherever it was at um after those first three or

444
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Speaker 1: four games, Yeah, where do they fin Where do they

445
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: finish the season at three? Yeah, that's big progress. When

446
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Speaker 1: you start in the hole. Absolutely, that means you're playing

447
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Speaker 1: like fifteen to get the you know, I think that's

448
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Speaker 1: not Also, say this, the group that they started yesterday

449
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: cost seven point eight million dollars against this year's salary

450
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Speaker 1: cat the Browns offensive line. One of the guys which

451
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: wasn't any better. No, it was that adds up. And oh,

452
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Speaker 1: by the way, with the exception of Turner, those guys

453
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: are really young. I mean, they're only getting it if

454
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Speaker 1: they wanted to keep him and roll with him next year.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, it seems to make perfect sense right right. No,

456
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Speaker 1: And there's no I like what the line is doing.

457
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: That was not an easy test yesterday. It's a really

458
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: good run defense. There's a superstar player that they didn't

459
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Speaker 1: help a ton. Um. I really think friar Muth and

460
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: Gentry are kicking in quite well as blocking tight ends

461
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: as well as receivers. UM. I don't wanna say Eric

462
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: Ebron is obsolete, but if he would turned into somebody

463
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Speaker 1: offers you something in the next twenty four hours, I

464
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: would be all years on that, because Gentry deserves to

465
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Speaker 1: be on the field and friar Muth. This rookie class

466
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: is awesome. Again. It goes back to Tomlin and know

467
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: where it's what year was it The Giants drafted like

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: six rook HEAs and they all ended up starting and

469
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: they went to the went to the Super Bowl. Might

470
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Speaker 1: have been the O eight class for them, and it

471
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Speaker 1: was you know, they tilted this. This this maybe the

472
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Speaker 1: greatest draft class all time. First of all, can't be

473
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Speaker 1: that we know where, we know where that one, um,

474
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Speaker 1: But this is a pretty good I mean, they're getting

475
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Speaker 1: contributions up and down the roster from these guys, including

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Speaker 1: Norwood and a PUTTERR who I'm sure we'll talk about

477
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Speaker 1: at some point this week. I mean, that was an

478
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Speaker 1: odd situation. Of course, I'm not gonna blame him too

479
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Speaker 1: much for that, UM, but I think louder Milk keeps

480
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: getting better each week too. And I think he was

481
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Speaker 1: around fifteen snaps this week. Maybe he should be twenty,

482
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: you know. I mean again, these are not massive leaps.

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Speaker 1: They didn't need much from Norwood. They didn't play a

484
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Speaker 1: lot of dime and you know, so he didn't factor

485
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Speaker 1: in a lot in this game. But he's been quite good.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the two linemen touched on Friarmouth. He's

487
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Speaker 1: got a chance to be a pretty good player, you know.

488
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Speaker 1: We know Nase is already a pretty good player. I

489
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Speaker 1: think friar Muth has a chance to be a top

490
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Speaker 1: ten tight end this time next year. He might be

491
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Speaker 1: a top ten tight end by the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the year, right, you know the

493
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Speaker 1: way to the way the tight end position. He's gonna

494
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Speaker 1: catch a lot of touchdowns in his life. Yeah, um yeah.

495
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Speaker 1: I don't think what he did yesterday, Ben Roethlisberger is

496
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Speaker 1: going to suddenly ignore him. No, when they get down.

497
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Speaker 1: He was not open on that play, no, right, I

498
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Speaker 1: mean that's a trust ball that he ends up coming

499
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Speaker 1: down with like a receiver like a a Larry or

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Speaker 1: an Odell or you know, somebody can really contort their

501
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant. I mean I asked Roethlisberger about that when

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Speaker 1: after the game. Um, I said, you know, this was

503
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Speaker 1: that essentially a trust situation because he was pretty well blanketed,

504
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: and uh, Rothisburg said, look that you know, we're you know,

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Speaker 1: we believe if the defensive back has his back to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, I'm gonna trust my guy to go make

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Speaker 1: a play. Yeah. Right, but that's a pretty big that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of trust, especially in the fourth that was

509
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Speaker 1: a fourth down play. Yeah, I yes, it was Claypool.

510
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Speaker 1: I keep getting questions, why did the Claypool make more

511
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: contested catches? He needs to be more physical? Well he

512
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: did in this game too, and I thought he played

513
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: a very physical game. One thing I'm going to throw

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Speaker 1: out and I'm not winding or complaint and I'd say

515
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: the same thing that they want or lost. Boy, did

516
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Speaker 1: the refs bother me in this game? And I thought

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Speaker 1: they really let the Browns cover guys. We'll say play,

518
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean a lot of I think

519
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Deante would have five more catches. That doesn't bother I

520
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: saw a bunch of complaints about that. As long as

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Speaker 1: they're calling it that way both ways. See, I thought

522
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Speaker 1: the game. I think the coverage stuff they called pretty

523
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: consistently both ways. The holding penalties are what the signed

524
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmage. Nonsense. I mean it

525
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: seemed very one sided. I'm not accusing anybody of anything.

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Speaker 1: There were Just think about how many times in the

527
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Speaker 1: NFL you can watch an entire season and not see

528
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Speaker 1: a defensive holding penalty called on alignment. And that was

529
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Speaker 1: We saw two of them. And the guy who called

530
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Speaker 1: it was the back judge whose sixty yards from the play.

531
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Speaker 1: He they throws the flag from from from and it

532
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: comes running in. He has to actually he couldn't throw

533
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: the flag far enough to get it to the line

534
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: of screen. He had to throw it twice to get

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Speaker 1: it there. That's how far away he is. And he

536
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Speaker 1: calls defensive holding penalties twice. I can't believe that one team, Yeah, right,

537
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: right right, And I'm like, was he two a year? Yeah? Yeah,

538
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: he saw two in the same game. Like, and it's

539
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: usually the nose tackle, dragging down two or three guys

540
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: to the and that was the world, Like it was

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Speaker 1: the one that was called on the Steelers. I'm I'm

542
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: rewatching it on the on the screen, and I'm like,

543
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I see offensive lineman with their hands wrapped around the

544
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: waists of I can see a hold there. I can

545
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: see defensive. Absolutely. Again, I'm not complaining about the refing,

546
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: but I thought it was very one side. Did you

547
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: see the explanation for the non column Boswell? I retweeted

548
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: something that one of the refs it was there was

549
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: a pool report and and that's horrible call. So they

550
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't there was no head that there's no help. Well,

551
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: there's pictures showing the helmet, the helmet contact, the helmet

552
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: is under the chin. There will be a fine coming

553
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: out of that. I have no doubt in my mind

554
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: that that that's a head. I mean, it doesn't matter

555
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: if it's a kicker, he's a pastor. He's a pastor

556
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Speaker 1: in that situation, and that's my homes are braid and

557
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: they get the call. That's exactly what I said. If

558
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: that's a quarterback making that play, I don't care who

559
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: it is, they're getting the call. Um. You know, when

560
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: when the when the the guy gets up from the

561
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Speaker 1: ground and his chin is bleeding and his nose is bleeding,

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Speaker 1: there might have been some contact off the helmet. Yeah,

563
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean that call obviously went terribly wrong, and I

564
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: had massive ramifications, including Boswell's health. But in the end,

565
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: that really should have been a rough in the pastor

566
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Speaker 1: call and automatic first down and yeah, exactly half half

567
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: and and those guys knew that was coming, or well,

568
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Speaker 1: if this doesn't go right, we'll get a rough in

569
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: the past. But I mean, still, it should have happened.

570
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: It should have been that, that should have been the call.

571
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: And again I feel like I'm, you know, the Steelers

572
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: one who cares and it sounds worse of a lost.

573
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: But I thought the officiating was to one sided for me.

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00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: I don't know about one sided to me, but I

575
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: thought it was over officious. And that doesn't surprise me

576
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: with that crew. I talked about it last week. They've

577
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: called a hundred penalties in seven games, fourteen a game.

578
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: They stayed. They went above that number in this game,

579
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: even though they were a bunch that were declined. Um,

580
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: it's being way too involved. That's a good point, and

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00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the one we just talked about. They weren't involved that

582
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: it was a massive it was obvious. It was obvious. Uh.

583
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: And this doesn't mean that they deserved more penalties, but

584
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: the Browns came into that with the most penalty yards

585
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: in the league and they ended up with twenty five

586
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: yards with the penalties in the game. Okay, but again,

587
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: like the Chucks lining up stuff, did you not warn

588
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: them once? I mean, it doesn't happen on every snap

589
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: across the league. You know, like he's looking at the

590
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: guy next to his helmet is at the waist to

591
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the guy next to him, right, I mean he's off

592
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. That's almost every time. It happens

593
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: every place. Everyone's been doing this for years and years.

594
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Usually they warn't. You're like, hey, you're really getting your

595
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: pushing it. Maybe they did, I don't think. I mean,

596
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: that was like the six snap of the game or something, right,

597
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: they were they were hurrying up to go with pace

598
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: there too, so right, and I really killed the killed

599
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: the vibe. But I don't know. I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a lot more about the game. But it

601
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: was success. And they're in a good spot and they

602
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: did a lot of good things and they're they're building

603
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and they're growing. Well, let's talk about that in the

604
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: overall picture. In the a f C overall when we

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Speaker 1: come back, he has Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lali. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more right after this