WEBVTT - Bruh Meets World... Meets World (Season 7 Recap)

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading this really good novel called The Rabbit Hutch

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<v Speaker 1>by Tess Gunti Gunty g u n t Y. It

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<v Speaker 1>won the National Book Award. I guess the year came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what year came out, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>recent book. It has this incredible it's so well written.

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<v Speaker 1>She is just an incredible writer, like sentenced by sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of my favorite prose writers I've read in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And she has this this sequence or

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<v Speaker 1>this segment of the book where there's a it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really giving anything away, but there's a character. Because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a series of characters, and each chapter is like a

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<v Speaker 1>different character. And I haven't gotten to the part of

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<v Speaker 1>the novel where I think they all come kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come together.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>You you're introduced to this character whose mother was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very successful child actress.

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<v Speaker 1>And lived her in higher life and was a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>mother to him, but a very successful child actress who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I just love this description so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And you find out that she was a child actress.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get like three pages and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read you two of them because it's such an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible description.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she was.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically introduces her and says she was a bad mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the mother's problem was that she never turned

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<v Speaker 1>around when she heard mom in a public space. She

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<v Speaker 1>was an actress first and only when she was four

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Her scarlet hair and greedy parents won her

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<v Speaker 1>the professional lottery, and she had been working since the

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<v Speaker 1>age of five. Baptized in binary waters of worship and disgust.

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<v Speaker 1>You're perfect, You're doing everything wrong. Hush, speak up, You're clever,

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty little idiot. Show us your dance. Hold still,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a song. Be quiet, imitate, be an original.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like her and her and her. Dazzle us.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't draw attention to yourself. All eyes on you. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not the center of the universe. You're perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>She was the nation's supply of sugar in the acrid

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<v Speaker 1>years following World War Two, a time of traumatized father's

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<v Speaker 1>economic prosperity and an international deficit of psychological health. Her

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<v Speaker 1>job never allowed her to be a child, so her

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<v Speaker 1>psychology never allowed her to age. It was not advisable

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<v Speaker 1>for a child to have a child, but she so

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<v Speaker 1>childish like to disobey in her teens and twenties, The

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<v Speaker 1>actress built herself a fortress of glass and mirror and

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<v Speaker 1>held whimsical parties there. Bad things happened to the young actress,

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<v Speaker 1>as they often did. Rejection, rape, anorexia, addiction, cast aside

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<v Speaker 1>by an older married man, her first love, as the

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<v Speaker 1>director warned, horrible whigs. But mostly the violence was administered

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<v Speaker 1>by the attention, which was the wrong kind of light.

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<v Speaker 1>Radiation that burned her gave her melanoma of the spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>She learned to grip and collect the things she liked,

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<v Speaker 1>learned that pleasure was the intravenous nutrient that could keep

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<v Speaker 1>her alive. To frame it that way was dramatic, she knew,

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, she was dramatic. So what she could

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<v Speaker 1>say to the army of bad knights that appeared at

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<v Speaker 1>her gate, I still have all these strapping good nights.

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<v Speaker 1>She invented a religion of pleasure and dedicated herself to it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was petite, All her friends were enormous. She liked

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol and drugs. She liked traveling between realms of consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>without going through security or stamping her passport.

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<v Speaker 2>She liked force.

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<v Speaker 3>How if you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong enough, you could make anyone do anything. She liked

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<v Speaker 1>avocado three days ripe. She did not like the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>and accuse people of bragging when they claimed to love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes she'd sit in front of the Pacific and try

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<v Speaker 1>to feel something, but her heart was too landlocked, too midwestern.

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<v Speaker 1>All she felt when she looked at the ocean was

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of the absence of all. Isn't that amazing

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<v Speaker 1>at somebody who's met a child act?

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<v Speaker 2>I just you can be what.

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<v Speaker 1>A way to describe, right, And just like in two pages,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this entire woman's life. You know everything about her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know why she's the way she is. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny, it's fun to read. It's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>the you guys should read this book.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. And this is a sidecarre.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like not the main character, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>always her son is.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the main characters. Just brilliant. I just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what an what an author?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and by the way, how amazing to teach you

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<v Speaker 4>about your character by going so in depth in just

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<v Speaker 4>two pages about the person who raised that character. You

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<v Speaker 4>now have such an understanding of what he must be like,

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<v Speaker 4>having craved attention and comfort and security and looked to

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<v Speaker 4>the person like that for you know, a moral compass

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know affection love Like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you also feel really sorry for someone you hate, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best writing, does that, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, And I just love like you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've made the joke or made the comment that fame

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<v Speaker 1>is trauma, you know, and like this is such an

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<v Speaker 1>accurate way to describe that. Like basically, you know, it's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's dramatic, but that was kind of why she

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<v Speaker 1>was who she was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like so all the sort of paradoxes of success.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at a young age, and like how that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just that though, it's also the the one

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<v Speaker 1>that hit me the most is and I never got

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<v Speaker 1>this from my parents, but you get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it from early managers and agents the.

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<v Speaker 1>Be quiet now dance exactly. We want you to be

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like everybody else, but be original. It's it's oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, like that whole paragraph of just like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anyone to see you now be the center

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<v Speaker 1>of attention, and it's yeah, it's so good, very very.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, man, it's really like it makes me mootual like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really well done.

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<v Speaker 4>Say the name of the book and the author Warmer

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<v Speaker 4>Time for the Rabbit Hutch by Test Gunty. The Rabbit

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<v Speaker 4>Hutch by Test Hunty. I know me too, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to read it. I'm currently reading The Silent Patient.

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<v Speaker 2>M Yes, oh I read that you audiobook?

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<v Speaker 5>Yees.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've devoured it. I just started it on Sunday

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm more than halfway down to so fast really

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<v Speaker 4>great reading. Will what are you reading right now? What

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<v Speaker 4>fantasy novel are you reading?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually?

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<v Speaker 7>I am like almost done with Mina Savar's memoirs. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>on kind of an actor memoir kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so this is this passes that I read? It's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect then, yeah, exactly, That's why I kind of brought

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<v Speaker 1>it back to that. So yeah, not quite done with

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<v Speaker 1>that one yet. But she sent copies to all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm reading that one.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that. I did not get my copy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you didn't, really you got a copy.

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<v Speaker 2>She only mailed you a copy.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she didn't mail it. Maybe I bought it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I bought it. I can't remember. I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody said, you clicked on Amazon Alison Stoner. Alison Stoner,

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<v Speaker 7>they sent me their their memoir, but I have not

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<v Speaker 7>read their memoir yet, so that might be next. But yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I think I bought Minasavars after she came on the

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<v Speaker 7>pod and told us about how tough her life was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, I want to read your book.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, welcome to Pod Meets World.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.

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<v Speaker 4>When Pod Meets World debuted back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 4>there were a handful of fan led boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 4>podcasts in the ether, and the last thing we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to do was walk into the scene the three child

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<v Speaker 4>stars of the show and pretend they didn't exist. And

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<v Speaker 4>so we did our due diligence and found.

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<v Speaker 6>Our favorite Bruh meets World. And since we were looking

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<v Speaker 6>for a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>Voice to come in at the end of every season

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<v Speaker 4>to ask questions and make sure we didn't miss anything,

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<v Speaker 4>a tradition was born. For the past six seasons, TC

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<v Speaker 4>and Siege, who had already finished their own Rewatch, have

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<v Speaker 4>swung by to fill in the gaps and speak for

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<v Speaker 4>the masses. And to close the loop, they are doing

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<v Speaker 4>it again. What do they want to know about season

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<v Speaker 4>seven and the end of the show that we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>cover or is there just anything they want to know

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<v Speaker 4>more about let's find out. Let's please welcome to the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast Bruh Meets World.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, guess who's back.

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<v Speaker 6>Up our tradition. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't believe it's been the seven seasons already.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Really I know, it really has I know when it

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<v Speaker 7>came to a screeching halt.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, you guys warned us.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys warned us that we were not gonna love

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<v Speaker 4>season seven. You had hinted to it even way back

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<v Speaker 4>at the very beginning of us doing this, and then

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<v Speaker 4>as we closer and closer to it, the hints.

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<v Speaker 6>Ramped up a little bit. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>We're so excited to talk to you about your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 4>your thoughts on our season.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, get to your questions and all of that.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you know, I want start with the question you

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<v Speaker 9>typically ask us. Okay, every time you come on here,

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<v Speaker 9>you're like, Hey, did we ruin anything for you guys?

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<v Speaker 8>And you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Traditionally we're like, actually, no, you didn't really ruin anything.

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<v Speaker 9>For a lot of insight, all those things.

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<v Speaker 8>Still are true.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I guess the question is we have for you

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<v Speaker 9>after watching seven years of this show, has any of

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<v Speaker 9>it been ruined for you?

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<v Speaker 6>Great question? No, not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I finally have a true understanding of

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<v Speaker 4>why this show is something people still care about thirty

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<v Speaker 4>years later, and why so many people say Boy Meets

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<v Speaker 4>World raised me. I understand why they see themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>In you know, Corey, Sean Topanga, Eric, Why now as.

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<v Speaker 4>Adults they see themselves in Alan Amy and Feenie. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I have now now joined the ranks of

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest Boy Meets World fans, Whereas before I just thought,

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<v Speaker 4>well this people like this show.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess that's must be how people feel about all shows.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's but I really feel like I understand now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree, it's see. Season seven is definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a great way to end.

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<v Speaker 5>It's too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I hate, I hate like that are even our

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<v Speaker 1>recap ends this way? You know, Like I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the end of the journey. It's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fulfilling in that. But if I think right now

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<v Speaker 1>about like if you could just do a boy Meets

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<v Speaker 1>World roulette and just put up an episode. It would

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<v Speaker 1>fill me with so much warmth and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm looking forward to rewatching episodes of Boyb's

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<v Speaker 1>World now because I've been through all seven seasons and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great and the feeling of like memories

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<v Speaker 1>that would come back just from watching now that we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through all the show, Like, I totally get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally get why this becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>A comfort show for people because it's like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you've been with these characters for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the thought of us that like in high

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<v Speaker 1>school or us in sixth grade is just so it

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<v Speaker 1>fills me with more than like positive memories. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's a good show.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything they said one hundred percent. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to go back and watch it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>really And one of the things that I've been excited

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<v Speaker 1>about is the fact that I get to watch it

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<v Speaker 1>without rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we've been very strict with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We do one at a time, we're not jumping ahead

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<v Speaker 1>we were, and now I can go, Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>I can watch two or three a night, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I can. I can't wait to go back and see

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<v Speaker 7>us young again. I feel like the journey has been

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<v Speaker 7>so long that going back and seeing season one again

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<v Speaker 7>is going to be such a trip. So no, this

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<v Speaker 7>is absolutely enhanced Boy Meets World for me in every

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<v Speaker 7>possible way. And yeah, I'm overall I'm so happy with

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<v Speaker 7>the show and the work we did.

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<v Speaker 8>I really am.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved what writer said about the Roulette wheel that

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<v Speaker 4>you're right if you put a roulette wheel with episodes

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<v Speaker 4>from all seven seasons, even if it landed on an

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<v Speaker 4>episode where we were like, oh, this is a bad one,

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<v Speaker 4>my feeling, my feeling would be all right, let's here

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<v Speaker 4>we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Even watching a bad episode sounds like fun, doesn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like let's rewatch the Honeymooners.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it be like sure knows this.

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<v Speaker 9>You can find this on certain like ebays and certain

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<v Speaker 9>websites where it's like a little mini television that's like

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<v Speaker 9>preloaded every episode of the Simpsons and you turn it

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<v Speaker 9>on and it just randomly goes to an episode I

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<v Speaker 9>started watching.

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<v Speaker 8>So there needs to be a Boy Meets World equivalent

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<v Speaker 8>to that.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be a VHS. You have to pop in,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to rewind you.

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<v Speaker 4>Should have to pay one hunds one season one season

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<v Speaker 4>show even if you're on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 9>We have a lot that we can say about season seven.

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<v Speaker 9>Like we said, we've already kind of like warned you

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<v Speaker 9>how we felt about it. But one of the takeaways

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<v Speaker 9>that you know, I was listening to our last episode

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<v Speaker 9>is we were.

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<v Speaker 8>Talking about how dark season six was.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, for all of the wackiness and the wildness

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<v Speaker 9>that season seven was, it definitely wasn't as trauma filled

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<v Speaker 9>as season six. There were some benefits I think to

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<v Speaker 9>season seven, even if it has a reputation of not

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<v Speaker 9>being very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you talking about this very often when we were

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<v Speaker 5>doing it.

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<v Speaker 10>We were like there were just certain things that we

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<v Speaker 10>were listening to this season, and we can tell you

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<v Speaker 10>guys were kind of like doing what you can to

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<v Speaker 10>just get through it. Me you know, having some personal

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<v Speaker 10>health breaks in between, just because it got really rough

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<v Speaker 10>in moments, but like things where it's like we started

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<v Speaker 10>off with the Monkey as well, and we were like,

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<v Speaker 10>what is this monkey episode?

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<v Speaker 5>How far have we fallen?

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<v Speaker 10>And then by like halfway through season seven, you're like,

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<v Speaker 10>I got to miss.

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<v Speaker 3>The Monkey yup.

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<v Speaker 9>Like for even for how wacky episodes like the Truman

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<v Speaker 9>Show episode was in season six, like at least it

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<v Speaker 9>still was trying to teach Eric something. It was pushing

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<v Speaker 9>him too something. A lot of the wackiness and here

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<v Speaker 9>feels very misplaced. And so you know, as as this

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<v Speaker 9>joint of that season six feels, it kind of feels

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<v Speaker 9>like a more cohesive season in a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 9>than this one.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about the idea that season seven, even if

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<v Speaker 4>there were some good moments or good storylines, very rare

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<v Speaker 4>to find a solid episode where it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>both A and B storyline feel you know, grounded.

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<v Speaker 6>In reality at all, or you know, true to character.

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<v Speaker 6>It was always like I kind of like this part,

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<v Speaker 6>but what the f is going on over here? Like

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<v Speaker 6>how was this happening?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>We also talked about the fact that it's a little

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<v Speaker 7>jarring because the good episodes of season seven aren't necessarily great,

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<v Speaker 7>where the bad episodes of season seven are really back.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, there are bad episodes of the other seasons too,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were they.

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<v Speaker 3>Weren't horribly bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Where there were some season seven where we finished and

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<v Speaker 7>it was like how how did we even make that episode?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and thankfully they're way to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get through the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean low and the highs are mid, yes, right, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so it was very strange, and I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had this correlation. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever spoken about this before, but I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Mash what like, yes, so detail Marsh.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a show from the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 7>So one of the things that Mash did that was

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<v Speaker 7>really interesting that we did in the reverse was that

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<v Speaker 7>it in the early years of Mash, when it was

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<v Speaker 7>a wacky show, it would take like they did a

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<v Speaker 7>storyline where this colonel comes in. They want to get

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<v Speaker 7>him off the front lines because he's so crazy, so

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<v Speaker 7>they take out his appendix and it's a big wacky

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<v Speaker 7>like and then in season ten they do exactly the

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<v Speaker 7>same storyline as a drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Should Hawkeye take out the guy's appendix? No, the other

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<v Speaker 1>doctors fight, Why don't you stab him? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>literally the same storyline. And I get that with like

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<v Speaker 1>Chick Like Me and what a Drag where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, you've got chick like Me? Where you

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<v Speaker 1>take something about real gender issues, and you do it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that is so important to this not

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<v Speaker 1>only the show, but to the point where Ryder had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of inexperience throughout the week and then you go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do kind of the same thing with Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>but now it's going to be a ridiculous rump. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they did the reverse of like what mass shows,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like you take the same storylines and they

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<v Speaker 1>made them worse.

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<v Speaker 3>So they did.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a couple versions of that in this in

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<v Speaker 1>this season that I thought were very glaring.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was weird to me.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it just feels like that this season they stopped

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<v Speaker 9>trying to teach the characters lessons in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 9>And I don't know if the removal of the classroom

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<v Speaker 9>had a part to play in that, but it's definitely

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<v Speaker 9>a noticeable absence, Like Feenie, just the way the role

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<v Speaker 9>that school played it, all the way that, like every

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<v Speaker 9>Shakespeare play had something to do with what you were

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<v Speaker 9>doing that week, there's no relation to that, which I

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<v Speaker 9>think is you know, for a show that's based in college,

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<v Speaker 9>feels very weird.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we actually had we appreciated you acknowledging the fact

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<v Speaker 10>that all the season and six leads up to Peoenie

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<v Speaker 10>getting married to the Dean and then we never see

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<v Speaker 10>the Dean again anything. The moments like that were it's

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<v Speaker 10>just like, well, in terms of like character continuation, it's

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<v Speaker 10>just like Peoenie just becomes unmarried until like they mentioned

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<v Speaker 10>her once, I believe later in the season because of

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<v Speaker 10>the rumor mill, and you know, there are lots of

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<v Speaker 10>things like that. Another thing with season seven that we

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<v Speaker 10>thought would be interesting is maybe if you reorganized season

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<v Speaker 10>seven it could work because some of the storylines are

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<v Speaker 10>actually pretty interesting with the characters that we talked about

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<v Speaker 10>the fact that we would have liked if Jack got

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<v Speaker 10>cut off from his stepfather at the beginning of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Season, and then maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, roulette idea.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a form of season seven where it's like, if

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<v Speaker 10>you rearrange the episodes, you kind of have something there.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I mean again, we literally didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to get this many episodes, so we

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<v Speaker 1>assumed thirteen and done, and we were thinking that until

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<v Speaker 1>like episode nine or ten.

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<v Speaker 9>What's strange about that is that if you watch those

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<v Speaker 9>first thirteen, it doesn't seem like a show that's leading somewhere.

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<v Speaker 8>It doesn't seem like a show that knows it's ending.

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<v Speaker 6>We asked someone, was it Jeff that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Acted who didn't know unfortunately because he wasn't there for

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<v Speaker 1>most of season seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Jeff?

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<v Speaker 4>We asked someone and they said, no, we knew all

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<v Speaker 4>along that it was going to be twenty two episodes.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, which we didn't because I mean the perfect examples.

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<v Speaker 7>Ryder and I were doing our documentary at the end,

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<v Speaker 7>behind the scenes joke documentary, and we got called into

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<v Speaker 7>Michael's office going, you guys have some more time.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually just got our back nine. We're like, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>So we thought we were doing thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wonder if it was reshuffled once we knew

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<v Speaker 4>we had the back nine, because truly.

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<v Speaker 6>The middle of the season is win. It just tanks

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<v Speaker 6>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's because they were leading up to the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the whole point of this season was let's

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<v Speaker 1>treadwater until we have a wedding episode, and the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>episode will be a big ratings hit, which will get

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<v Speaker 1>us the back nine. So you if that happens, what

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<v Speaker 1>episode eight is the wedding or whatever? Seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>and then they had no idea what to do because

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<v Speaker 1>there was no plan beyond that, and we got the

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<v Speaker 1>back nine.

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<v Speaker 2>So then those next.

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<v Speaker 1>Four are probably the worst four episodes in a row

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<v Speaker 1>of Boy meets Honeymooners.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, honeymoon is over.

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<v Speaker 2>To drag. It's like boom boom boom.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, also to to what you were saying, I think

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<v Speaker 7>Tony you said this is is that or it might

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<v Speaker 7>have been us It was it was the idea that

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<v Speaker 7>forever on Boy Meets World, the adults were treated a

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<v Speaker 7>very specific way.

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<v Speaker 3>They were The teachers were teachers.

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<v Speaker 7>They were not to be made fun of, they were

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<v Speaker 7>not to be marginalized.

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<v Speaker 3>The parents were a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>And you get to season seven and like even think

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<v Speaker 1>of the funny thing of like the professors coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and what's your what's your class?

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the teachers were no longer teachers. Feenie

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<v Speaker 7>was a totally different kind of character. The parents relationship changed.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they took the parents kind of out of

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<v Speaker 1>the equation, the show to me lost itself. It just

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<v Speaker 1>it really when we were left to our own devices

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<v Speaker 1>as characters without that parental guidance and Feenie guidance. You

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<v Speaker 1>see how important that was to the show, was a

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<v Speaker 1>hugely important aspect of the show that when you removed it,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of fell apart.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, the show starts off as a family show

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<v Speaker 10>in the sense of like you know the Matthews and

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<v Speaker 10>you know Corey's friends, and then by season seven it's

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<v Speaker 10>more of a found family show, kind of in the

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<v Speaker 10>loop of friends. But what's interesting about that is to

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<v Speaker 10>your point, well, I think there something kind of got

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<v Speaker 10>lost in the translation of Hey, this is about a

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<v Speaker 10>family and their neighbor and the community that makes them better,

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<v Speaker 10>and then it just become kind of it tries to

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<v Speaker 10>be friends, but without actually giving each of the friends

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<v Speaker 10>their own development.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, we definitely I think suffered because of the

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<v Speaker 4>popularity of Friends and us wanting to try to fit

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<v Speaker 4>in the writers or network wanting us to try.

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<v Speaker 6>And be a that we're a younger version of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I agree that the grounding, the entire gravitas of

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<v Speaker 4>the show was that we were.

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<v Speaker 6>Even if even without being kids.

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<v Speaker 4>It's beautiful to see college kids, you know, have the

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<v Speaker 4>guardrails off and to see that they can still lose

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<v Speaker 4>their way and they need an adult to come in

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<v Speaker 4>and say, I've been in your shoes.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's how I can help you. We lost quite a

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<v Speaker 6>bit of that.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't want to say that we didn't want to

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<v Speaker 10>point out that there were like Tony pointed out that

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<v Speaker 10>you really made us appreciate things work, like we've always

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<v Speaker 10>loved the comedy in this but like the way that

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<v Speaker 10>you all like Praiseman and his comedic timing and the

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 10>fact that he was just trying to make you guys laugh.

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 10>I think, you know, as you said, a lot of

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 10>people can watch this show and fall in love with

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 10>the characters just because they can see how much fun

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 10>you were having on set and the number of times

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 10>that were you guys like we were just trying to

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 10>make each other laugh.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that comes through.

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 10>And then Danielle's season seven, we talk about the fact

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 10>that Tapega actually drives the story of season seven.

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 5>It's her decisions throughout her season seven.

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<v Speaker 10>It's her season really of course, like they're not going

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 10>to let her take the driver's seat, but for the

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 10>most part everything that it's to Penga's refusal of getting

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 10>married in the beginning, it's her acceptance and getting married

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 10>in the middle, it's her needing a place to live,

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 10>it's her going for the job that actually changes everyone

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 10>else's trajectory. This becomes to Panga's season, and on top

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 10>of which we get to see you, Danielle do so

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 10>much more comedy. It was really fun to watch you

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 10>just kind of become one of the gang in the

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 10>sense of like you and Chlory had your hygiens you

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 10>you know, like can you even get paired up with

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 10>Will More?

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<v Speaker 5>And these things were or some of the positives of

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<v Speaker 5>season seven.

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<v Speaker 6>I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was actually one of the things I talked

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 4>about when we wrapped up our overall feelings for the show.

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 4>I said, I wish I really in the moment because

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 4>season seven was so hard for me. Internally, I so

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 4>had such senioritis. But when I watch it, I am

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm having so much fun. Like external Danielle on the

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 4>show is the most comfortable, the most relaxed, the most

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 4>funny I had ever been in any other season. And

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 4>yet internally I was I would have jumped out of

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 4>a fourth story window. If I wouldn't, I would have

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 4>get to get out. So it's wild that when I

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 4>watch it, I'm like this is some of my best working.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I mean, I agree with you.

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 4>I did want to point out, c J that you

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 4>said that they weren't ever going to let me take

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 4>the driver's seat and that is just because women cannot drive.

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<v Speaker 6>So I do want to just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not true.

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>We've been working with you in parking lots during the day,

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 1>two men around you.

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 6>I know, the men have been so helpful and to

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 6>teach me, and.

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 3>She's doing great.

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.479
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we joked that like Danielle kind of is the

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 9>driver of this season, but like an uber black driver,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 9>Like no one's talking to her because we ended the

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 9>season thinking like, oh, I mean everyone is going to

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 9>New York because it's pegas, so really like, is this

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 9>is this really Corey's journey or is this pangas to

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 9>become world right?

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 8>Exactly exactly.

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, So to that point, it's funny that you, like,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 12>you know, we've had this kind of conversation with you

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 12>guys since season one, and one of the things that

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 12>we've kind of adopted since watching you guys is the

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 12>best women are men, Because it's really funny that that's

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 12>just kind of like seen throughout and we also noticed

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 12>that in season seven it has several female writers, and

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 12>we will we will see topics and you can tell

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 12>and I wanted to know, like we can tell as viewers,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 12>but could you tell as like producers.

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 10>And writers that all right, this script came in kind

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 10>of from a female centered point of view and then

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 10>there was movement in the background, because it kind of.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 5>Feels that way when you watch it.

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 10>I was like, the idea of this, yes, but how

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 10>we got with the final results?

0:25:58.640 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Mean in the Angela's storyline the most I mean we

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about it's like she is like she all these

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>big life decisions are made, but she doesn't get to

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>make them. It's literally Sean and her dad debating what

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>she should do, and she needs to learn her lesson

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>by deciding which one of them to listen to.

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That's like, what, that's not a choice?

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's yeah, it's like you give her agency conceptually

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you actually remove it through the course of

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the story.

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 2>It's bonkers.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 9>It's so even just as we're talking about Angela. The

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 9>I think the deeper issue with Angela that like upset

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 9>me the most as a viewer was that it seemed

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 9>like her story arc since she was introduced was I

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 9>need to open myself up to love. I need to

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 9>open myself up and trust someone again after being abandoned

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 9>by my mom. And so it seems like she makes

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 9>effort through her relationship with Sean.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 8>They heal each other in that way.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 9>So to have her disappear without kind of even inviting

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 9>Sean to come along or presenting an opportunity for that

0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 9>love to continue feels like it's taking back all the

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 9>work we've done on her character over the last few season.

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, well.

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It also it amazed me during that episode how low

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the stakes were, meaning like I'm going to go to

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Europe for a year, Okay, in a month, I'll see

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to I'll come, I'll visit you, you visit me, I'll see.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>In a bit like a summer vacation.

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 10>Like who's more likely to like we come? We struggled

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 10>with angels lashes because we were very, very much of

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 10>the mindset of Sean would absolutely go to Europe. Of course,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 10>who better to go and sit in a cafe and

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 10>learn about the old world and have these conversations Like again,

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 10>we understand that like Sean became kind of like a

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 10>doppelganger writer, but it's just like that means that you

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 10>can absolutely see Sean in Europe succeeding Sean becomes Ricky.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>He gets to go become Ricky exactly.

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so awful because in Sean's final moments of the

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>second to last episode, he's like, well, I gotta stay

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>here because I have a family, and makes a joke

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I have nothing to stay for it.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, so go with Angela. You have nothing

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>to like what it's already.

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.239
<v Speaker 4>I'd like to just be a little bit of a

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>devil's advocate here in the idea that.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 6>Any for any.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Seven or twenty one year old, however old, we are

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one year old, when their significant other is

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 4>going on a trip that they have been invited on

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 4>by their father, it is extremely presumptuous to be like,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll just go with you. No one invited him. And

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Angela's storyline in that was don't say goodbye.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 6>This isn't goodbye. She is acting more like.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to spend this quality time with my

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 4>dad that you don't get to have. Even though it's

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 4>said in a little bit of a you know, maybe

0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 4>insensitive way, but she she enough way she's been changed

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 4>by Sean is recognizing that you're the people that mean

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>the most to you can be taken from you at

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 4>a moment's notice. And she was abandoned by her mother.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Her father regularly is not in her life because of

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 4>his travels, and she now gets to go and be

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 4>with him. She's actually made the choice that she would

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 4>like to focus on that relationship right now and put

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 4>this relationship with Sean on what she knows or hopes

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 4>to be a pause.

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 7>I want to see that episode because that's not the

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 7>episode I saw, because I want us. That's a great

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 7>episode of Angela coming up with that idea of no,

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 7>I've got to be with Sean, I've got to be

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 7>with Sean, and then realizing no, I've spent no time

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 7>with my dad. I want to take this year with

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.479
<v Speaker 7>my dad, and having that scene with Sean.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the episode I want to see. That would have

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>been an incredible episode.

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Also such a wonderful polar opposite to Corey and Topanga

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Yea for her to be like, I have the rest

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 4>of my life to devote to se.

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 6>I have the rest of my life. I don't know

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 6>how much longer I'm going to have my father.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Just kind of like echo what you were saying. I

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 5>I think that that is the choice.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 10>And I loved when we were listening to your episode

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 10>you said that the agent that she is showing agency

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 10>again in the background, because she's.

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Never made the foreground background. She's story agency.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Camera, although we would have to do it off camera.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 6>It is messy when women make choices, you don't want

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 6>to watch it.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 10>But to that point, my counter with that with the

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 10>series is then Danielle, I'm not Danielle to Panga.

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 5>Decides that Sean's moving to New York. So I know

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 5>this idea.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 10>Of like the grand gesture or not being invited and all.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 5>This other stuff. It's like Sean was.

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 10>Just brought to New York like without any conversation as well.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 5>So to me, I think there is a world.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 10>Especially in a in a series that promotes love overall

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 10>and your partner and the fact that like Sean is

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 10>supposed to want what Corey has, there's a world where

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 10>we get the if you want to be friends grand

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 10>gesture of you know what sewn at the end of

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 10>the series, like, hey, if you're moving to New York,

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm going to Europe.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 7>That's what you want, the goodwill, hunting ending you want,

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to see about a girl, that's what that's.

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>What you want.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, hunting ending would have been fantastic.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 9>And not to take away from Angela, but I think

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 9>that Sean's you know, we were kind of thinking about

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 9>Seawan's journey throughout the entire series, and to me, Sean's

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 9>story is about trying to find a home, trying to

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 9>find a place where he belongs. And multiple times he

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 9>was like, hey, you can stay with the Matthews. No,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 9>I'd rather go with Turner. Hey, we'll adopt you. You

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 9>can become part of the Matthews. He's like, I don't

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 9>want to do that. I want to find a home.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 9>I want to try to make this relationship with my

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 9>dad work. I'm going to try to move in with

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 9>my brother to see if that works. He is trying

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 9>to find something that's of his own, and yet at

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 9>the end of the series, instead of doing something for himself,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 9>he could continues to be codependent upon with Corey and

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 9>do whatever Corey does, and so it feels like, yeah,

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 9>Angela does have the agency, but Sean has no agency

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 9>in this decision. He's just going along with whatever his

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 9>options are. That's and it's like the series was teaching

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 9>him to do more than that and to become more

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 9>than that.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 7>I think that, unfortunately, had was dictated a lot by

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 7>the fact that Michael really wanted to do another show

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 7>with the four of us in New York, right sure,

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 7>And so because of that, the idea you can't have

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 7>Sean leave and go to Europe, because again, that's the

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 7>that's the ending everybody wants.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>You want Eric to look.

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 7>At you want everybody Corey to pang it to go

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 7>off to New York, and Eric and Sean to go Now,

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 7>we've got to go find ourselves without this dynamic around us.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 7>That's what you wanted to have happened, or at least

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 7>what I wanted to have happened. But the idea was then, well,

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 7>now it's going to be friends in New York and

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna we're gonna bring in all new characters and

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna have the four of you and that so

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 7>I think because of that, we were kind of pigeonholed

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 7>into Well, now it's the four of us leaving to

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 7>New York because again Eric makes no decision whatsoever. You

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 7>find out off camera that a pay Carently he decided

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 7>to go and we still don't know. Did they all

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 7>drop out of college? Eric graduated, but what is everybody

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 7>else doing? So it was just the idea of getting

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 7>the four of us together somewhere.

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 3>In the hopes of them doing a new show about it.

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunately what we were stuck with at the end there.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 9>You know, you guys have mentioned a few times the

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 9>kind of behind the scenes of the spin.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 8>Off, but also how the season felt.

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 9>Like more of an opportunity for people to write and

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 9>direct who didn't get a chance, versus focusing on telling

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 9>the best story possible. And I think that brought a

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 9>lot of insight to some of the holes that we

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 9>saw throughout the season too.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so too for sure.

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 10>Do your point, Well, what I think is interesting is

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 10>we talked heavily about and we've talked about this throughout

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 10>the season. School is so important to my Michael Jacobs.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.719
<v Speaker 10>It's so important that we go, that you graduate, that

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 10>you you know, college is a must.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 8>You have a multi season arc of trying to get

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 8>into college, like that's how important it was.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Yet we never see Eric cross that graduation stage,

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 10>and to us that is a lost opportunity of season seven,

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 10>like like I wanted to know, Like is I just

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 10>I don't know, And maybe it is. It's like I

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 10>don't see Eric going to New York and then continuing.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 5>School because we have him graduating.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 10>So it just feels like we've told everyone how important

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 10>going to college was and then we don't even spend

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 10>time actually watching Eric accomplish one of the things that

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 10>the series itself said was never an option for him.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, I agree, there's I mean again, there's a

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 7>lot of different things.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>How I've been thinking about it a lot lately. You know,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>had I gotten a chance to decide what happened in

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>season seven, Eric and Jack would never have moved moved

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in together. Eric would still live at home, which would

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>keep the entire family together. He's still next to Feeni,

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's getting all the the you know, those lessons,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and you keep.

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>That entire storyline alive.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.919
<v Speaker 7>Then have Jack and Rachel maybe as a couple, move

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 7>them in together. You have you have Sean and Angel

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 7>as a couple, and you have Corey and Tapang as

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 7>a couple. That dynamic I think would have worked really

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 7>really well, because otherwise everything just kind of got thrown together.

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, really and again it was in the long

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 7>run for a lot of careers, it was a good thing.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Season seven gave people the opportunity to direct and gave

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.959
<v Speaker 1>people the opportunity to write, and people that maybe would

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>not have had the opportunity.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Steve Hayfer comes right to mind.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 7>You went off and had a huge directing career, And

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of people that came in Lynn McCracken

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 7>that were given a shot that they deserved years ago

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 7>that now because we got especially the extra episodes, they

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 7>were allowed to do that.

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 3>So in that sense it was wonderful.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 7>In the continuity storyline sense, it didn't help the show

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 7>very much.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I do think that feeling impacted us on

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 4>set more than we realize. I think that feeling of

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 4>these characters we were told and taught to care so

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>much about and to pay attention to every word on

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 4>the page because they're not haphazardly, and our directors being

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 4>so involved and connected to us and asking us about

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, truly thinking about motivation and why. And we

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 4>spent six years being taught that that is what TV

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 4>is all about, and that it's important and that it

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 4>isn't frivolous, and that we are doing something of meaning.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 4>And then we got to season seven and they were like, well,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 4>we had a good run.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 6>Let's it's fine.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 4>We don't you know, it's okay, We'll throw these characters

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>under the bus. And here these are characters that we

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 4>are portraying. And I think that feeling of, well, we

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 4>don't care anymore because now our focus is can we

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 4>get another show after this. Let's just let's just get

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 4>rid of that and get rid of this and not

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>have this as much anymore, and let's focus on this.

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Even though I think that really affected me in the

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 4>sense of like everyone's jumping ship.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Like we yeah, and we got everything from the top down.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>We always got to think from the top down.

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 7>So when you see the leaders on vacation, or at

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 7>least that's what it seemed like, we got that same

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 7>kind of checked out feeling.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 3>It just everything went down, by the way.

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 7>I also would like to you just said something Danielle

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 7>that I want to put into our lexicon, which is

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 7>when something is deliciously unimportant, it is now frivilish.

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Wish I loved, loved that word. So we are taking

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>that from now thank you very much.

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's interesting, like I because I think

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>about personally, I was, I just hated my performance this

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>entire season. And it's because like I was applying to

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>colleges in New York. I was like, already I was

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>going to college. So I was doing that in the

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>mornings coming to work. I did not care. I probably

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>absorbed not caring from the set and the irony is

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Ben was more focused and present than he

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>had ever been because this is the only season he

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was not in high school. Not in school, says him,

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>finally just being free to be an actor and commit,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and they were really writing for him to be funny.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think you can see his confidence, his his

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like his sense of like ownership of Corey, you know,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>taking and making us laugh all the time.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Like he's so present.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 1>In a way that is really great and the rest

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of us just aren't it stupid.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I think he let go a lot in season seven too.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know again, I could not imagine we

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 7>go back to that first season with Ben. I couldn't

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 7>imagine being eleven years old, being Fred Savage's brother and

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 7>being in every seat. Now this show, we're putting this

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 7>show squarely on your shoulders. The pressure that kid must

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 7>have felt must have been unbelievable, and so to now

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 7>be in season seven, we're all adults again. Say what

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 7>you want about the show, but we're clearly having fun

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 7>as an ensemble cast making trying to make each other laugh.

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 7>I think he just let go for a year and

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 7>manned his performance show because of it.

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know.

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 9>We I gained an appreciation for Ben's performance based off

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 9>of your podcast because when we were originally watching it,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 9>I kind of had it up to.

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 8>Hear with Corey. Corey as a character I was.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 9>Pretty much done with in every way, and I think

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 9>the thing that was frustrating for me was that the

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 9>entire series seems to be teaching Corey how to be

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 9>a better friend, a better son, a better brother, a

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 9>better partner. But as we get to specifically the college years,

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 9>it seems like he becomes a little bit more selfish.

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 9>It seems like he becomes a little bit more arrogant,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 9>a little bit more insisting upon others in a way

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 9>that makes this question like did the lessons from the

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 9>seven years of this show actually shaped this character? Like

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 9>did the boy from Boy Meets World become the man

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 9>the series promised.

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Ooo ooh wow. Interesting question.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Kind of dark because if that's the case, then it

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>teaches a pretty horrible like he becomes insufferable in so

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>many ways.

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's what I would say, And I think I

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>think about this for my own life, the years of

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 4>my childhood that I was really shaped by my parents,

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 4>let's say, all the way up until the time I

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 4>moved out of my parents' house and I'm.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 6>Then in college or whatever.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 4>On Boy Meets World, there is a mid ground where,

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 4>even if you haven't become who those lessons will eventually

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 4>make you, you are at least more self aware of

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 4>your shortcomings or of who you are.

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 6>Doesn't mean you're.

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Locked in there, but there is a self awareness, a

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 4>little bit to Corey's selfishness, where at least he can

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 4>joke about, well, come on, you know, I'm not listening

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 4>to tapanga, you know, like that idea where it's like

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 4>and that might be the middle ground for that time

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 4>where you go, I do do that. I am kind

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>of in that way. I am not the best friend

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 4>that I think I am. I'm not all of those things.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean I'm always going to be a bad

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 4>friend or a bad partner. But I at least can

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 4>recognize when I grew up that I'm doing it because

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I've been shown through the seven years of the show

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 4>that that's what I do.

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 9>So to your point, after seven years, we haven't seen

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 9>him grow to the person he's supposed to be.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>No, Well, I think what.

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 7>Could be interesting with that too, is there's something. There's

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 7>some and I certainly don't know if it was written

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 7>this way. It would be amazing if this was in

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 7>anybody's mind as they were creating the show, Michael Jacobs, whatever.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 7>But you see this generationally too, where Alan is clearly

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 7>a self made man. He didn't know what he wanted

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 7>to do in his life, so he went into the military.

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 7>After the military, he probably started working at a grocery store,

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 7>then worked his way up to where he was then

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 7>managing the grocery store. When you find people that do that,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 7>sometimes what they do is they overcorrect with their own kids,

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 7>so they never their kids never feel like they ever

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 7>have to work a day in their life because their

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 7>parents work so hard. So there is entitlements not the

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 7>right word, but a laziness to Corey that you can

0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 7>sometimes get Eric frankly that you can sometimes get with

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 7>people who are self made because they want to make

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 7>sure their kids don't get through that. And you saw

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 7>that a bit with Corey, like I need help, come

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 7>fix my apartment, and Alan's like fix your apartment, Like,

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 7>go fix your apartment.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>This is what I did.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 7>Now you go do that too, And I think so

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 7>I would be amazed if that was something that was

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 7>actually discussed by Michael at the beginning or thought about.

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 7>But you can see that generationally of a slight entitlement

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 7>with people whose parents work their off to get where

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 7>they are to make sure their kids didn't have to.

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 10>I love that you said that because I Tony and

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 10>I had this conversation and looking at season seven specifically,

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 10>I think you could do season six and season seven,

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 10>but season seven we have a question.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 5>Are Amy and Allen good parents?

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 10>Like if you if the result of good parenthood is

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 10>your children? And we understand, we understand who Corey is.

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 10>Eric is not a pre he hated, nor is he

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 10>like seemed to have any like kind of mental growth,

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 10>even though he is very emotionally intelligent, and even at

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 10>the end.

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 5>Morgan's a little brat.

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 10>We never see you know, like people were in a

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 10>smart alley, so.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 5>That you take all those things in. Are they good parents?

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 10>We know they're great characters, especially in the beginning, but

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 10>are they good parents.

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 4>Also that baby is locked in a bedroom upstairs, or

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 4>baby I don't even know if anyone's feeding it.

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 8>The baby never made out the hospital. It's a ghost, exactly.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 6>They've given Amy a bit a fake baby, man.

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And it's such a shame to say that based on

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 4>the way their kids turn out. In a lot of ways,

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure their parenting has shows to be incredible,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 4>but the way they were as parents in those first

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 4>five seasons, yeah, some of the best TV parenting of

0:43:58.920 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 4>all time.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm greed.

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 5>So sure.

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 9>It's kind of like you can do your best as

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 9>a parent, but it's really up to the individual to

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 9>become who they're going to become exactly.

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 4>And I will say, if we could just talk about

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 4>it individually by character, I do not think they have

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 4>ever really been that great to Eric.

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 9>No, No, they don't give a damn. They don't care

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 9>about you going to New York. They're happy to be

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 9>rid of you. In so many ways, it's so dismissive.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 9>And you know this kind of brings me back to

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.959
<v Speaker 9>another point about Eric. At the end of last season,

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 9>we were like, hey, just so you know, Eric has

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 9>just lost everything that's important to him. He is struggling

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 9>to make friends, he lost Rachel to his best friend,

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 9>he lost Tommy, and we think this is the season

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 9>that breaks him, and that everything that happens in season

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 9>seven is him kind of acting out, trying to disguise

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 9>his hurt, which kind of is our canon way of

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 9>explaining why he's so crazy.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 5>Threat.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that was the character.

0:44:58.040 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 5>Before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed you picked up on that because boy did No. Yeah,

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>by that point, with the anxiety and everything, I was

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to survive. So I was just being as big

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.919
<v Speaker 1>as I could and have the comedy hit as loud

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 1>as it good.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 3>And but yeah, no, it was the going back to

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 3>the question of the parents.

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It's such a good question, is at the end of

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the day, were they good parents? Because we even had

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the same conversation of season six halfway through six, but

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>most of seven, were they good spouses? Yea?

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Horrible to each other?

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 7>They started all of a sudden not being Gregg you're

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:36.320
<v Speaker 7>a pig, and you know, saying talking about her weight

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 7>and all. I mean, it got there was times that

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 7>got bad, and again I blame the writing obviously, but

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 7>they all of our characters are so much different than

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 7>they were when they started.

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 3>And again that's not a bad thing.

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 7>You're supposed to be different, but you're hoping it's a

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 7>growth different as opposed to just now we're writing them different,

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 7>if that makes sense.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>So the series.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 9>Presumes you understand who these characters are with actually showing

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 9>us displaying those behaviors throughout this season. It's like, you

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 9>remember what Alan and Daimy are Like, we don't have

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 9>to create romance or create you know, uh, meaningful parenting

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 9>moments because you've already seen that versus keeping that going

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 9>and growing.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're right, we've established who they are. You already

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 4>know them, Now watch them be something else.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 8>That's every character of this season to that point.

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 10>That brings us to Jack because the conversation about Jack,

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 10>that's the point we feel like Jack is like there's

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 10>loss of a lot of loss potential with Jack because

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 10>we were like, what, like, there are so many fan

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 10>theories and I think it's because Matthew Lawrence does like

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 10>a very great job as we all know how I

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 10>feel about his brother, but like when he goes and

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 10>you know, like he does like his little interactive bits

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 10>with Will, even in the what is I think the

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 10>Lottery Numbers.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 5>Episode, But like Matthew, Lawrence has.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 10>Comedic jobs, and so to see him like be thel of.

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.919
<v Speaker 10>We've talked about him as Eric's love interest. We've talked

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 10>about him getting cut off from his stepfather in the beginning,

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 10>we've talked I don't know if I shared this, but

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 10>in the future episode somen the Hard Way, there is

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 10>kind of a scene that implies that Jack and Corey

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 10>don't get along, and I was like, I would have

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 10>loved to see that, like Jack is actually the one

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 10>person in the entire group who doesn't like Corey, and

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 10>you can kind of just see that fox of this idea,

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 10>like I don't get it, you know, like that's a

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 10>very comedic bit.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.359
<v Speaker 5>To have someone who's like constantly trying.

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 10>And then there's someone who I don't get it sucks,

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 10>he sucks.

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 4>That would be so funny, so funny, especially that it's

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 4>your brother, your brother and your best friend just totally

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 4>at odds what.

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>It seems like they just added Jack and Rachel, Rachel

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>especially and then just kind of went okay, now what

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>like that? You just go, what, well, you brought him on?

0:47:58.400 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>You must have had a reason to bring him on.

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 7>I mean, is Matt, especially with the right director, is

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 7>a really really strong actor.

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 7>I worked with him on comedy, I worked with him

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 7>on more dramatic stuff, and there was never a swing

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 7>and a miss with Matt, so I got and it's

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 7>like he was just woefully underused or poorly used, but

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 7>at least they tried to use him, Whereas when you

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 7>actually go back and you watch Rachel, you kind of go, okay,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 7>why is she here?

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Sure, like why she's pretty?

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 7>And I guess they wanted to throw somebody in between

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 7>Matt and I for some reason. But that to me,

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 7>and again people are gonna think I'm bashing Maitland, and

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 7>I'm not at all. This is not Maitland's fault. That's

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 7>an episode, yeah, maybe.

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>A three episode, maybe a three episode arc exactly. But

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to keep her on the show, then

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>then don't do her dirty and and do something with

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the character. And that was the one for me where

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't, I don't and then you pull

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Eric away from that. So it's not even that dynamic anymore.

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So then it's like, well, what the hell was the

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>point of doing this in the first place?

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 9>I mean, and now we're checking in with two unrelated

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 9>people about the ongoings of their relationship, even though it

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 9>doesn't affect could.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Break up into that camera. Yeah, and it's like, what

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was the point of any of this?

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 8>What do you think that says about?

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 9>You know, a show that's in its like fifth sixth

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 9>season trying to add on to its ensemble, Like you've, like,

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 9>now that you've seen the way that Angela and Jack

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 9>and Rachel were handled, do you think that it would

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 9>be hard for any character to kind of join this

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 9>group that's already been so firmly established.

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, unless the entire show becomes about how the group

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>deals with this new dynamic.

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 6>Unless that new character.

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 4>Is going to create a new show and and actually

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 4>give new life to a show where maybe the other

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 4>characters have played out their storylines, you're not gonna You're not.

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 4>If you can't get devote the time to giving great

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>backstory to a character and developing who they are as

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 4>people throughout the show, it's jumping the shark.

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 6>It's truly just.

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, every sitcom does this when when they're in that

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 7>kind of era. What you've got Raven Simone coming onto

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 7>the Cosby Show, Brian Bonstall coming onto Family Ties, the

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 7>Little Kid coming on to Brady Bunch seven, coming onto

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:27.959
<v Speaker 7>marriag with children.

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is just what you do. This is

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 3>television trope one to one.

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 2>But I think Angela was the right addition.

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think she was perfect, but she's perfect. But

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Matt was not a choice. Matt was because

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the network had an overall deal with him. We talked

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to Doug McCracken, so he was sort of forced upon

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>our show. And I think they made a noble effort

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>by trying to incorporate him with my character. They were like,

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>let's give him Sean, a brother, a long lost brother.

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's make this. And it didn't work Matt, but.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Jack and Eric did Jack, but that's what they found and.

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Then they are like, oh, and then they doubled down

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on that and they were like, let's get let's add

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>another character, Rachelorge.

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's like whoa, Okay, hold on, now we have

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen member cast or whatever.

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like too much. But it was like but they

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.799
<v Speaker 1>made the noble effort, and I think the problem is

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's and I take responsibility. I think there's there was

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a lack of chemistry between me and Matt, and I

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 1>think they unfortunately tried to add Matt adding drama to

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Sean's life, making him a dramatic entrant. And if you

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>had come in as like a foil to Sean and

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 1>we had play more of the like he's a rich

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.919
<v Speaker 1>kid and Seawan's a poor kid, they don't understand each other,

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>which we did that one episode where we wrestle. Like

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 1>if they had come in with that dynamic and said,

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.439
<v Speaker 1>let's make it funny that this guy is a long

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>lost brother who doesn't understand Sewan and Sean doesn't understand.

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Him, that could have been great. But instead they brought

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 2>him in.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>On a dramatic point, had me monologuing to Corey's camera

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about and him like I never had a dad either,

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's like Jesus, like it's like double DeShawn. Make

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.919
<v Speaker 1>make them, yeah, make them the quarterback of the football team.

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>He was a popular kid and high school. He's now

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback at Penbrook, arrogant and funny.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 2>And clueless and Sean just hates him. Would have been

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 2>so funny.

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, could have played with that all day.

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And then you keep Eric in with the parents yep,

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Feeni and Feenie and and yeah, I mean again when

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you they were literally trading screen time and pencil mileage

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>with Feeni and the parents with Jack and Rachel, and

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not a fair.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 3>It's not a fair.

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 10>And to your point, I think, like, while you're talking

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 10>about the different ways that they could have used Jack

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 10>and even like the Rachel of it all, I think

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 10>we get one, maybe one solid episodes where the girls

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 10>all move in together and we're like okay. And again,

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 10>me having never seen seven, said season seven when I

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 10>watched it, being like, okay, cool, this will be, like

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 10>you said, a good at least two three episode story

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 10>arc where the girls are living.

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 5>Together and they get their own dynamic.

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 10>And they get to learn from each other, and we

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 10>actually get to see Angela and to Penga be the

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.760
<v Speaker 10>friends that they talk about and Rachel be the person

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 10>who will eventually be into Penga's wedding.

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 5>But we never get that.

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 10>I think it's like one episode where they're all there,

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 10>the guys all goal her, and then the next episode

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 10>they're moving out they.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Really all should have started working a club Clevage, that's

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 1>ye need more club.

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 2>It could have been a whole.

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 6>Season, right, the new Wilderness Store club.

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 10>To that point, the idea of Eric working at the

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 10>Wilderness Store or something like, I think I think that's

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 10>one of the things that Tony Pitch was, like, this

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 10>idea of like maybe Jack and or everyone works at

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 10>the Wilderness Store because that gives them a central bond

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 10>and things to do, and you can bring the family

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.919
<v Speaker 10>in as well, especially since they still have a set.

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, the Wilderness Store would have been so much better

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 4>as the third place environment than that, God forsake.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And.

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 9>So much insight to us about the role that a

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 9>set plays in the dynamics of a sick club. Like

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 9>I really enjoyed your conversation about, you know, comparing the

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 9>Student Union to the sets of the past, like the

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 9>high school sets that were just perfect. They had these

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 9>little little spots where two characters could talk but also

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 9>can out and have a wide shot showing everyone like

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 9>really great sets that you guys had previously, And so

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 9>when you move to the Student Union, it's such a

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 9>noticeable difference and the relationship that we have with these characters.

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, we.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Also learned from you.

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 10>We learned from you guys again, like I think it

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 10>was Corey andinga get their groove back.

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 5>We also are like, how many swing sets are they?

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:40.359
<v Speaker 3>Like you just can't can't put them in? They can't

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 3>putting them in.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 7>Also, after you just said having everybody work at the

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 7>Wilder Store, how do you not do an episode after

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 7>how Alan has treated Eric over the years where Jack

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:53.240
<v Speaker 7>comes in and starts running the store and Alan essentially

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:54.800
<v Speaker 7>adopts him as his kid.

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Like this is like the son I always wanted. Look

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>look what you did, Look how much you sold? And

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 1>there's ra They're like, are you kidding me? After all

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>this year?

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean, stuff like that would have been a great

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 7>episode to see, but they just it just wasn't.

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Never happened. Yeah, yeah, we.

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 5>Got a food fight out of it.

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Something that's you know, it's always good anytime you can

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 3>do that.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know, here's a question that I was kind

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 9>of thinking about.

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 8>You guys have had to basically.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 9>Embody these characters every day for like the last thirty

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 9>years in some way or another, like either other people

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 9>kind of putting that on you, Are you guys kind

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 9>of you know, turning it into this podcast and kind

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 9>of making something out of it. Clearly, these are characters

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 9>that are deeply influenced by the writings of Michael Jacobs.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 9>But now after all of this, do they feel like

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.759
<v Speaker 9>your or do they still feel like something that you

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:04.880
<v Speaker 9>were just kind of like dipping your toes into.

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 6>That's a really good question.

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally feel I own Sean, Like I'm so

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>proud of especially the first five seasons. And I'm just like, yes,

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 1>what a cool what an honor, you know, and and yeah,

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.919
<v Speaker 1>I even the things that like we were just talking

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>about when we were recapping one of the episodes, Will

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>are I forget where were And at one point I

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.720
<v Speaker 1>was talking about how horrible how I felt bad about

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the choices that they made for Sewan in season seven,

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and Will pointed out what they were actually borrowing from

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>your life, like they were taking and He's like, in

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>some ways it's a compliment, and I was like, you're right,

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it is a compliment, but it's bad storytelling, like it

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>makes for an angsty not a great character. But even

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that is a tribute to like what what they were taking,

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.280
<v Speaker 1>they were taking from my life, and that I should

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I should just own it, you know, like, and doing

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 1>this podcast has allowed me to own it.

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, I think Sean's a great television character. And I

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:00.040
<v Speaker 2>think that.

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Especially like when you think about not just the Shawn

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Cory dynamic, but the Sewan Turner dynamic, the Sean Angel,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 1>it's stuff like.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 2>It's great, Like it's a great character.

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud and honored that I got to play them,

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and be a part of his creation. And

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 1>now you know, I'm just gonna start wearing a leather

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:16.439
<v Speaker 1>jacket every.

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Day, so you'll lose it in a half an hour. Yeah,

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 3>you'll lose it in a half an hour on a train.

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I agree. I think the thing that I'm most

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 7>honored about because I you know, overall we sit here

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 7>and we bashed season seven. But I mean, I was

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 7>trying to last night. It was last night of the

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 7>night before. I was trying to think of any list

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 7>you could come up with for the best And I

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 7>don't want to say kids, because that's not right. The

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 7>best shows aimed towards young people in the history of television,

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 7>and I cannot imagine Boy Meets World not being on

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 7>the list of top ten in the history of TV

0:57:55.840 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 7>and that's something that is for someone who television is

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 7>as important as it is to me, that's such an

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 7>unbelievable honor. And as an actor a the opportunity to

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 7>do that is almost non existent.

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 3>So that's huge.

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:14.919
<v Speaker 7>But to then watch the show and I can't point

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:16.479
<v Speaker 7>to the exact moment, but I can kind of point

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 7>to the season. It's like season three when they stopped

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 7>writing for me and they started writing for me, and

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 7>that I think was the moment, is the moment I'm

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 7>most proud of where it was like, oh, they're seeing

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 7>me as an actor and now they're writing for me.

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 3>There's a team of people writing.

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 2>For Catching Up with your comedy chomps.

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 3>And awesome and that feeling.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 7>So that coupled with the fact that I'm so proud

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 7>of what we did, and again I do think we've

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 7>made television history. Not to aggrandize it, but you know

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 7>there has to be that list of Okay, what what

0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:49.479
<v Speaker 7>shows are on that list?

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Pointed towards young people. We've got to be on that list.

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 7>And that's a testament to Michael, certainly, a testament to

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 7>Ben certainly. The cast they put together, the writers they

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 7>put together, Catching lightning in a bottle, whatever you want

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 7>to call it, but we had something very very special

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 7>and Yeah.

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Seven sucks and it's a dud. It is what it is.

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of reasons for it. But the show

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>overall is I'm.

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Hugely proud of being Yeah, and I think we all

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>own our characters. Now, I don't know, Danielle, do you

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>feel the same.

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I mean the fact that I, without any you know,

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 4>any bit in it, truly would consider making my middle

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 4>name Topanga. Are there moments that I think where Topanga

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 4>acted out of character?

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 4>Overall as a whole, do I think she's maybe the

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 4>most consistently solid who she is of all the characters.

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I think of moments like when you know, during

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:56.439
<v Speaker 4>the episode where the boys borderline assault Rachel and.

0:59:56.400 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 6>She goes but it's cute. That's no old or Tobanga

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 6>would normally have done that.

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 4>But who among us has also not had moments where

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 4>we acted completely out of character because of something that's

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:11.680
<v Speaker 4>going on in our lives. And for Corey and Topanga

1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 4>at that time, it was wedding engagement, newlywed bliss who

1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 4>we can make whatever excuse we want for it, but

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Tapanga through and through is a person and a character

1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I think everyone could learn from. I think she's incredibly loyal,

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 4>truly to a detriment to herself. The only person who

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 4>suffers to her to her detriment is Topanga. Because maybe

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.600
<v Speaker 4>the relationship she chooses out of love and loyalty isn't

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.480
<v Speaker 4>necessarily what she deserves.

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<v Speaker 6>She could probably.

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:53.320
<v Speaker 4>From Corey maybe even just to expect more from him,

1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 4>and if he doesn't raise the bar to then say

1:00:56.320 --> 1:01:00.320
<v Speaker 4>you're not meeting my standards for a partner.

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go bang Ricky to Pega and Lauren should

1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 1>have probably run off.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean.

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I still watch that show. No, but I think you

1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 3>could also.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's interesting because maybe not until this very moment, Danielle,

1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:21.040
<v Speaker 7>where you just said that about Tapanga staying the most

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<v Speaker 7>true to herself other than the massive change after season

1:01:24.760 --> 1:01:30.240
<v Speaker 7>one exactly which again I don't know if I've talked

1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 7>to you guys about this before.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm a big fan of show called Nash. So yes, right, details, so.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly correct, correct, love He's the best. They essentially rebooted

1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:47.440
<v Speaker 7>their show for season two. They did season one, nobody

1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 7>really watched it. They started to watch it during the summer,

1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:51.840
<v Speaker 7>so they said, let's kind of start over, and they

1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:55.000
<v Speaker 7>almost redid the pilot for season two. You could kind

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:56.880
<v Speaker 7>of argue, we did the same.

1:01:56.680 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Thing, so season the episode yet, right, but season two

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 1>episode one as a restart, could be our complete redo

1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:09.880
<v Speaker 1>pilot of the show. And if that's the case, Topanga

1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:11.800
<v Speaker 1>hasn't changed all that much.

1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:12.440
<v Speaker 6>Now.

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Other than that first season where she was hippie Topanga,

1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:17.080
<v Speaker 1>there was the Minka show, there was a whole different

1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:23.480
<v Speaker 1>thing starting with the second pilot of Boy Mets World Toga.

1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, very consistent, you know, character who had a ton

1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:30.280
<v Speaker 7>of growth and went from there.

1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:32.800
<v Speaker 9>I have a theory that each of the characters has

1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:34.920
<v Speaker 9>like a question that they're trying to answer, And I

1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:38.640
<v Speaker 9>think that Eric's is where do I belong? Sean Shaan

1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.240
<v Speaker 9>does where is home? And the Tapanga is you know,

1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:43.520
<v Speaker 9>how do I stay my true self? And I think

1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:46.600
<v Speaker 9>that despite all of the changes that happened throughout the show,

1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.880
<v Speaker 9>those things are fairly consistent.

1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:49.320
<v Speaker 8>Throughout the series.

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<v Speaker 3>What's Corey's how.

1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 9>Do I better love the people around me? I think

1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:56.960
<v Speaker 9>is ultimately his his lesson that he's trying to and

1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:58.680
<v Speaker 9>even if it's not successful because.

1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>He's he's working out every relationship. How do I be

1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a better student? How do I be a better son?

1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:03.440
<v Speaker 1>How do I be a better friend? How do I

1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:04.440
<v Speaker 1>be a better husband?

1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like better.

1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, although brother, he didn't seem to care too much

1:03:08.760 --> 1:03:09.280
<v Speaker 3>about Eric.

1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 6>Is that his questionners his question? How do I get

1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:15.880
<v Speaker 6>what I want?

1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.640
<v Speaker 5>That's probably that's the accurate.

1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Get what I need out exactly. It's like the whole

1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:26.840
<v Speaker 3>world revolves around me.

1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:29.400
<v Speaker 6>You make the world revolve around me.

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<v Speaker 10>The boy though, one thing that it is one of

1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:36.080
<v Speaker 10>the episodes that I think is amazing and we do

1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:39.080
<v Speaker 10>want to give it credit for season seven is the

1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:42.520
<v Speaker 10>Honeymoon's Over episode. To me, even though there are lots

1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:44.640
<v Speaker 10>of holes and we can have all these arguments, and

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:46.560
<v Speaker 10>you guys called out a who lot of things we did.

1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Like why wouldn't they take the baby?

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, like things that happened later in the

1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:53.640
<v Speaker 10>next episode. The idea and it stuck with me for years,

1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:56.560
<v Speaker 10>this idea that after Corey and Topanga got married and

1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:58.280
<v Speaker 10>they're like and we're just going to write off into

1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:01.600
<v Speaker 10>the sunset and reality stem strong and they're like and

1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:04.480
<v Speaker 10>to your point, were like Topenga didn't have a plan

1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:08.560
<v Speaker 10>for after getting married, and they just didn't discuss it, Like,

1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:11.840
<v Speaker 10>these are things that to your point, Danielle, sometimes you

1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:13.040
<v Speaker 10>do let things slip through the crack.

1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you do feel like love will conquer all.

1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:19.000
<v Speaker 10>And I love that that episode actually does a really

1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:24.320
<v Speaker 10>good job of Alan Amy being good parents and being like, actually, no,

1:04:24.640 --> 1:04:27.600
<v Speaker 10>you wanted to make this decision. We actually told you

1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:31.000
<v Speaker 10>that you were too young. We said that this would

1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:34.160
<v Speaker 10>be hard, and this is the reality that you live

1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:38.000
<v Speaker 10>in now. And I think that there are moments in

1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:39.880
<v Speaker 10>Boy Meets World that just stick with you, and that

1:04:40.040 --> 1:04:41.280
<v Speaker 10>was definitely one of them.

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<v Speaker 9>We were talking like, why was the wedding mid season?

1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:45.600
<v Speaker 9>Obviously you guys have answered that by telling us about

1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:49.000
<v Speaker 9>the back order and everything, but we were like, you know,

1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:51.960
<v Speaker 9>why is this mid season? Why isn't this the finale?

1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:54.160
<v Speaker 9>But what's so great about it being mid season is

1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:56.760
<v Speaker 9>we get to see as an audience what happens after

1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:59.320
<v Speaker 9>Happily ever After, which you know, for a generation grown

1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:01.720
<v Speaker 9>up with Disney movie these, the credits usually start there.

1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:04.520
<v Speaker 9>So I think that that is something that season seven

1:05:04.600 --> 1:05:07.320
<v Speaker 9>kind of stumbled upon. It was actually a really interesting conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely very valid point.

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<v Speaker 10>Any of you ever seen the show BoJack Horseman, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:29.160
<v Speaker 10>The reason why I want to say that is in

1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:33.520
<v Speaker 10>BoJack Horseman, there's a character who's talking about Robert Reid

1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:35.480
<v Speaker 10>I believe is his name, which is the father and

1:05:35.560 --> 1:05:38.439
<v Speaker 10>the Brady Bunch, and he talks about how Robert red

1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:41.400
<v Speaker 10>never respected the Brady Bunch because he thought television was

1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:44.520
<v Speaker 10>below him and it wasn't real acting. And in it,

1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:47.320
<v Speaker 10>the character then says, some people don't even get to

1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.800
<v Speaker 10>do the Brady Bunch version of what they love. And

1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:56.480
<v Speaker 10>I think that watching you all revisit Pod meets with

1:05:56.600 --> 1:06:00.360
<v Speaker 10>Pod meats World, revisit Boy meets World, I love to

1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:03.320
<v Speaker 10>see the journey of you embrace and kind of go

1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:06.280
<v Speaker 10>through like this therapy and like we in season one,

1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:08.360
<v Speaker 10>you were very much like oh, as you said, I

1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:09.600
<v Speaker 10>was like, oh, I guess people.

1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Like this, so it's a really fun adventure. But to

1:06:11.760 --> 1:06:14.280
<v Speaker 5>go from will you being.

1:06:14.160 --> 1:06:16.840
<v Speaker 10>Like I hate seeing myself to being like, hey, maybe

1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:20.400
<v Speaker 10>I'll get back in front of the camera a writer

1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:23.040
<v Speaker 10>for you to appreciate your acting and know, hey, maybe

1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:24.720
<v Speaker 10>I wasn't given in my all. But there are moments

1:06:24.720 --> 1:06:27.120
<v Speaker 10>where like I actually bring it and Danielle to see

1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:30.840
<v Speaker 10>you like actually like use this series as so much

1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:32.880
<v Speaker 10>up with therapy and be like, oh there were things

1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:34.240
<v Speaker 10>that I hid behind.

1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:36.080
<v Speaker 5>A wall and now I'm unpacking that.

1:06:36.560 --> 1:06:40.040
<v Speaker 10>All of it has been really rewarding as viewers and

1:06:40.080 --> 1:06:44.480
<v Speaker 10>listeners because we're able to see you learn to appreciate

1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:47.720
<v Speaker 10>the Brady Bunch version of something that a lot of

1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:48.600
<v Speaker 10>people write off.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, so true. It's also how you how blessed

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<v Speaker 1>are we to for say what you want about it?

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<v Speaker 7>To have seven years of your life on CA yep,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean we can go back and watch I mean

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<v Speaker 7>to be like, oh, yeah, remember how heard it was

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<v Speaker 7>to be twelve?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me go turn that on. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most people don't get the opportunity to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>So that that's an interesting relationship your children will have

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<v Speaker 9>with you being able to revisit that because you know,

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<v Speaker 9>since the last time we talked, I actually had a

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<v Speaker 9>little baby girl of my own, not intentionally, but she

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<v Speaker 9>is named Maya. That that that that's great, But I

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<v Speaker 9>think about how like, oh, you know, I only have

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<v Speaker 9>so many vhss of me growing up, so many pictures

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<v Speaker 9>of me as kids, but to think that your children

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<v Speaker 9>can go through their adolescence with your adolescence as a

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<v Speaker 9>guide along the way.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so interesting and cool of an experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to experience that, but I understand your

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<v Speaker 4>grandchild my grandchild though.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know, one last question I have for you guys,

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<v Speaker 9>and then we have just a quick little wrap up

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<v Speaker 9>game that we want to do.

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<v Speaker 8>Is you know, now that you've.

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<v Speaker 9>Watch the entire series, do you feel like and I

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<v Speaker 9>hate to, you know, get too much into the Girl

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<v Speaker 9>Meets World of it all, But does Girl Meets World

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<v Speaker 9>feel like a natural continuation for these characters are in

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<v Speaker 9>your head canon?

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<v Speaker 8>Is this the end of the show? Is this the

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<v Speaker 8>end of the series for these characters?

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<v Speaker 4>I did think about Girl Meets World when you said

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<v Speaker 4>do we see Corey with where he is in his

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<v Speaker 4>you know, final boss form? Technically, Girl Meets World would

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<v Speaker 4>then be the opportunity to show does is Corey the

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<v Speaker 4>man we were promised at the beginning of season one

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<v Speaker 4>Boy Meets World? And so I would really have to

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<v Speaker 4>now go back through and watch Girl Meets World to

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<v Speaker 4>see who is who?

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<v Speaker 1>We keep saying, Danielle, we keep saying Danielle saying Daniel.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I now now I would want to look at

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<v Speaker 4>it through that lens because I had. I certainly didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think about that when I didn't think about it from

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<v Speaker 4>the Corey pov. I definitely thought about it from the

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<v Speaker 4>Tapega pov. And I was like, this does feel Even

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<v Speaker 4>though Tapega spent a lot of time fluffing pillows and

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<v Speaker 4>making dinner for a lawyer, I did feel that she

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<v Speaker 4>was maternal, that she was empathetic, that she could see

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<v Speaker 4>when she basically took on all the great characteristics that

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<v Speaker 4>Eric had, like a real people person, like I can

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<v Speaker 4>read between the lines, I can see what you're thinking

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<v Speaker 4>or feeling.

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<v Speaker 6>And I loved that for her.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like, this is the type of woman Tapega

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<v Speaker 4>would have morphed into.

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<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it would be forever too hard for me

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<v Speaker 4>to not think of Girl Meets World.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't like.

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<v Speaker 4>Girl Meets World was such an influential part of my

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<v Speaker 4>life because I was there every episode and I got

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<v Speaker 4>to direct, and I was a producer on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it of course it was such a part of

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<v Speaker 4>my life. I can't I can't separate it. So for me,

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<v Speaker 4>I would have loved for Will to have been a writer.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have loved that. And I'm really glad that

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<v Speaker 4>writer got to direct as many of them as he did.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wish he could have been in, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>an in house director and done whole seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But for what it was, you know, I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>wish we could make Girl Meets World now. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish the three of us could finish this podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>walk onto a stage and be executive producers of a

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<v Speaker 1>new show called Girl Meets World and get to and

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<v Speaker 1>get to continue the story based on because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like what I showed up on the set of Girl

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World. I remember Michael and Ben telling me like, remember,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this joke, which is a callback to

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<v Speaker 1>and I had no idea what they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>because I did not remember any of Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, what do I have to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I have to wear so I can get

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<v Speaker 1>in the DGA, get to do you know, get to

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<v Speaker 1>do what I wanted to do, which was work with

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<v Speaker 1>the kids and direct, which was super fun. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was not invested creatively in the Boy Meets World universe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so invested now and I would so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would love I think this, this this is

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<v Speaker 1>the end for me, Like I wish Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>just ended here, the universe ended here, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to continue it now because I'm so, I really

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<v Speaker 1>do think that there's a potential for a sequel show

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<v Speaker 1>or that would really honor the magic of Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>And the main thing for me is that it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a continuation of season.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven, because I feel my instinct and I haven't watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>but my feeling is.

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<v Speaker 2>That Girl Meets World felt more like.

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<v Speaker 1>Season seven continuation in terms of tone, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the way it talks about the characters, the self reflection,

1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and like just the actual like the style of the

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<v Speaker 1>show was a continuation of the style of season maybe

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<v Speaker 1>six and seven, And I would rather go back to

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<v Speaker 1>like season one, season two, Boy Meets World and keep

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<v Speaker 1>that tone going.

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<v Speaker 9>Ye.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you can pull us scrubs and just erase the

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<v Speaker 10>last two seasons of like this was created. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>so when they came back, they were like, that was

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<v Speaker 10>a fever three. We have no idea what happened there.

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<v Speaker 10>You can totally do that. And if you were going

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<v Speaker 10>to do this, I pitched you lean in go full vote,

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<v Speaker 10>have Jack and Eric adopt a black daughter and that.

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<v Speaker 7>The h Yeah no, the girl, Girl Meets World doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>count for me at all. Sorry, it doesn't count for

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<v Speaker 7>me at all. I will say that, Uh, fluffing pillows

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<v Speaker 7>and making dinner. My mom did that every night and

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<v Speaker 7>she was a lawyer. So uh but uh yeah. The

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<v Speaker 7>how you have Corey as a teacher, I get why

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<v Speaker 7>they did it, but none of that makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 7>How you don't have uncle Eric helping as the nanny

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<v Speaker 7>raising the kids with how you set him up with

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<v Speaker 7>children beforehand makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>And again you're it is gonna feel more season seven

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<v Speaker 7>rider because you're going from ABC to Disney Channel, which

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<v Speaker 7>is a big, a big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 9>But perhaps in the age of streaming, those restrictions might

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<v Speaker 9>not be as strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus which would not be it. But at the time

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<v Speaker 2>of Disney Channel, Yeah yeah, because they made the kids

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<v Speaker 2>show as opposed to a family show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just remember the couple of weeks I was there,

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<v Speaker 7>and again I have not seen any growmytrold.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw the episode I was on that

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<v Speaker 1>was about it, but it seemed they they fell into

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the television tropes which I hate, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the woman says something like Tapanga's like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you questioning what I said? Corey, And he's like, oh, no,

1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of course not. I love you so much, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>for the love of God, and so I just I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that that couple dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's such the beautiful woman and the guy

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<v Speaker 7>who's just lucky to have her is just one of

1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:49.519
<v Speaker 7>the worst sitcom tropes ever, and so I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>they really leaned into that. And so yeah, to me,

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<v Speaker 7>Groming World does not exist, and I agree with you

1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:57.680
<v Speaker 7>righter one hundred percent. I would love to go and

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<v Speaker 7>do that right now because the cast I've said this

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<v Speaker 7>from the beginning. The cast when they started were way

1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:08.040
<v Speaker 7>better than when we started. Oh yeah, way better. So

1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:10.360
<v Speaker 7>much more talented than we were when they were their age.

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<v Speaker 7>So the sky was the limit, as you've seen with

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<v Speaker 7>with all of them and everything they're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in their careers, they were way more talented

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<v Speaker 1>than we were, so to start at a different place

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<v Speaker 1>would have been I think pretty magical.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it kind.

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<v Speaker 10>Of wrapped this up, you know, We've talked a lot

1:14:40.760 --> 1:14:43.479
<v Speaker 10>about the show Boy News World season seven, but in

1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:48.280
<v Speaker 10>talking about your season seven, we saw you guys lean

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<v Speaker 10>into your creative endeavors. You started a book, you had

1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:53.880
<v Speaker 10>a podcast, either of which we were invited to, but

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<v Speaker 10>it's completely.

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<v Speaker 8>Time documentary documentary.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 10>To kind of lean into this idea of like you

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<v Speaker 10>kind of like expanding your universe kind of like I

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<v Speaker 10>think I wrote down Kiss or the Brady Bunch or

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<v Speaker 10>I think, well you said it's called niche. But considering

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<v Speaker 10>all of these things, we really wanted to do kind

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<v Speaker 10>of like a quiz of what you thought the characters,

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<v Speaker 10>which of these universes you think the characters would be bested.

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<v Speaker 10>So with doing this, we're calling it Boy meets Pod

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<v Speaker 10>And the question becomes which Boy Meets World character would

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<v Speaker 10>most likely win Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Phoeni Phoenix the hot Stuff dance.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Topanga would have worked your butt off.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but we've seen Jack, We've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting could be.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's got the you know, the Dylan f

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<v Speaker 4>Ron white boy vibes that America loves.

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<v Speaker 3>Shirt comes off as he.

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<v Speaker 4>Also like is a dancer, but hasn't been a professional

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<v Speaker 4>dancer his whole life, so he would still have a journey.

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<v Speaker 4>He would come out and be pretty good and people

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<v Speaker 4>be like, Wow, he's good, but by the end he'd

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<v Speaker 4>be phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jack.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, okay, how about WrestleMania. Which character would be most

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<v Speaker 10>likely to succeed at WrestleMania?

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<v Speaker 4>Eric, He's got a big personality. He would not be

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<v Speaker 4>at all afraid of jumping off the top rope. He

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<v Speaker 4>would think he's freakishly strong even if he isn't, and

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<v Speaker 4>then would be amazed when he actually is freakishly strong.

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<v Speaker 6>He could keep as.

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<v Speaker 4>Far as being able to like do promo to the camera.

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<v Speaker 4>Who you know who who could go bigger?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Eric?

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<v Speaker 1>Eric?

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<v Speaker 9>Funny that Frankie the Enforcer, who actually is I thought

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<v Speaker 9>about that figure. We'll keep it with the with the

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<v Speaker 9>core course.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, Frankie the Enforcer has such a poetic heart. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not he's not a wrestler. His daddy was a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, he's eligible for the rest of these categories.

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<v Speaker 10>Which is which character would most likely win? The traders?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, Cory, he's the best liar.

1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Of so manipulative or Angela who can He kind of

1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:42.799
<v Speaker 1>plays her cards close to her vest.

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<v Speaker 7>She has kind of friends with everybody. She can kind

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<v Speaker 7>of go from from friend group to friend group. Angela

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<v Speaker 7>could be interesting me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think always got a scheme and we

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<v Speaker 4>just don't know it.

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<v Speaker 6>We call it something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Strings and people when you realize it and everyone feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>And he would actually be a trader.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, actually put a knife in your back that night.

1:18:05.920 --> 1:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then in his garden because Corey would be awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Corey would be such a just mess.

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<v Speaker 8>Line.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>Which character would thrivee or create the most chaos on

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<v Speaker 10>Love Island?

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<v Speaker 3>Rachel as.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially she belongs on Boy These Worlds.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's Rachel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 10>And then which character do you most likely to succeed

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<v Speaker 10>on American item?

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<v Speaker 8>I think maybe Jack there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, or or the age which they did or this

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<v Speaker 1>second Morgan Amy loves to sing.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>It depends on what age we're thinking. Because American I

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<v Speaker 6>for that young you have to be. Having done the

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<v Speaker 6>American Idol podcast, I've seen.

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<v Speaker 4>What goes into some of the decisions about are you

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<v Speaker 4>at a maturity level of being able to handle being

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<v Speaker 4>the American Idol. The answer for Amy is, of course

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<v Speaker 4>it would change her family's life.

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<v Speaker 1>And it could be Jack again because he's got the look.

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<v Speaker 1>The boy band thing going already.

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<v Speaker 4>One dancing with the Stars. You can't win all the

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<v Speaker 4>reality TV is my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>And then the final question we have for that is

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<v Speaker 10>out of all of these, all this and I'll sayd

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<v Speaker 10>you hasn't done and all the things which like very

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<v Speaker 10>much under the lane of And then there was san

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<v Speaker 10>Or and then we'll have it not we'll have the.

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<v Speaker 5>Truman show of it all?

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<v Speaker 10>Which one of these universes would you love to do

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<v Speaker 10>an episode centered around?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, so, which one of the reality.

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<v Speaker 9>Like a Casa blanca like you did when She's the

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<v Speaker 9>seven themed episode? Do you you think which one of

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<v Speaker 9>these do you think would be the most fun for

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<v Speaker 9>the boy Meets World characters to be put in?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, I know it would be ridiculous, but all

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<v Speaker 7>the characters on Love Island would be pretty freaking funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, because it would be so ridiculous of

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, having a couple of oh they

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<v Speaker 1>were recoupling tonight and to bang it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like oh, Eric, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like, I don't know, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>there could be some if you if you did a

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<v Speaker 1>Trader's boy meets World episode, it could be like and

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<v Speaker 1>then there were shows exactly and it would be sound

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<v Speaker 1>like an unhinged Traders boy meets World would be so fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Get it.

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<v Speaker 2>We should do it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get everybody, We'll do it in character.

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<v Speaker 6>Picture will with one of those floods on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I wear one all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, I know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You could trade season of that.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole season of Traders with the Boy meets World

1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>characters would be so fun.

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<v Speaker 6>So funny. We're going to start writing, please please do.

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<v Speaker 6>Can we ask you a final questions? Okay? One, have

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<v Speaker 6>we ruined the show for you?

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 10>Uh yeah, season I'm going to be honest, But you

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<v Speaker 10>guys could never do it as.

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<v Speaker 9>Much harm so no, yeah, I mean like we've kind

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<v Speaker 9>of mentioned that. But there were so many questions that

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<v Speaker 9>we initially had as fans consuming the show from a

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<v Speaker 9>distance about like why does this season feel clunky? Or

1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:30.600
<v Speaker 9>why does this character not have a place, And you

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<v Speaker 9>guys have been able to kind of fill in all

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<v Speaker 9>of those gaps for us. So just as a person

1:21:34.760 --> 1:21:37.880
<v Speaker 9>who would rewatch every season of Boy Mets World between

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<v Speaker 9>in my summer breaks of school, I have like such

1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:43.479
<v Speaker 9>a long history with the show. I've loved it my

1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:47.360
<v Speaker 9>whole life, and I finally get those insights that like

1:21:47.400 --> 1:21:48.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't, I don't know that we we'll ever get

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<v Speaker 9>like a mashed version of this, and you know what

1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:52.920
<v Speaker 9>I mean, like to get those questions answered that you

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<v Speaker 9>have as someone who knows the show inside and out.

1:21:55.800 --> 1:21:57.599
<v Speaker 9>Like I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of my questions that I tend to ask you guys.

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<v Speaker 8>Are about like, hey, what do you think the character

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<v Speaker 8>is going through?

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<v Speaker 9>Because that I don't really know the behind those scenes

1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:05.800
<v Speaker 9>stuff as a kid watching it, I'm just thinking, like,

1:22:06.120 --> 1:22:08.920
<v Speaker 9>this character's behavior doesn't make sense and I wonder why,

1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:11.559
<v Speaker 9>and they almost become like real people to me, and

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<v Speaker 9>then you guys are able to just add a whole

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<v Speaker 9>nother layer of understanding to it. So I think that

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<v Speaker 9>you guys have been incredibly successful and I'm sad to

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<v Speaker 9>see this part of the podcast and that I know

1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:22.799
<v Speaker 9>you guys will do incredible things going forward.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one for you both now that you've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to know us a little bit over the years.

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<v Speaker 6>Who do you like the best?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, which one of us? Which which one of us

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<v Speaker 3>is most like our character on the show?

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<v Speaker 10>Ooh interesting, that's actually you know, honestly, I and this is.

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<v Speaker 5>Just straight up.

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<v Speaker 10>I think you all have elements, and I understand now

1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:51.840
<v Speaker 10>that I've now that we've gotten to know you, and

1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:55.120
<v Speaker 10>we've also you know, been listening to the podcast, I

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<v Speaker 10>can see where they got from elements from other characters. Well,

1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:00.320
<v Speaker 10>I was gonna ask you, do you make up those

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<v Speaker 10>merch jingles at the end of every episode like on

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<v Speaker 10>the Spot?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I usually don't think most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I remember like watching it because when Danielle

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<v Speaker 1>starts to do her outro, I can see his brain going, oh, yeah,

1:23:11.920 --> 1:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta come.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's like a very eric thing to do.

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<v Speaker 10>That's absolutely And then Danielle, the way that you host

1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:22.720
<v Speaker 10>and you like kind of bring everyone together, and you

1:23:22.920 --> 1:23:26.800
<v Speaker 10>again like very it's very very Topanga. And then writer,

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<v Speaker 10>it's been very interesting to see you kind of like

1:23:29.600 --> 1:23:31.800
<v Speaker 10>push back on Sean and then they'll be like whether

1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:37.760
<v Speaker 10>you do that, You're like, ah, yeah, I would say

1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:42.160
<v Speaker 10>to me, I understand how these characters came to develop,

1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:46.439
<v Speaker 10>and it is very interesting to just kind of see

1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:51.040
<v Speaker 10>where you end and the characters begin. And I feel

1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:53.920
<v Speaker 10>that a lot of the audience feels like we've got

1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:55.880
<v Speaker 10>to grow up with the characters more, but now we

1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:57.360
<v Speaker 10>understand the people behind them.

1:23:57.800 --> 1:24:00.479
<v Speaker 9>And I would also say that I definitely only see

1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:03.760
<v Speaker 9>a closer relationship with you three and the characters you

1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:08.040
<v Speaker 9>are at the end of the show, but likes well

1:24:08.120 --> 1:24:09.800
<v Speaker 9>the same as Eric season one.

1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:12.360
<v Speaker 8>Absolutely not girls girls skirls, girls girls stil.

1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:15.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't think any of you guys are who they

1:24:16.080 --> 1:24:19.760
<v Speaker 9>wanted those characters to be, but maybe through your influence

1:24:20.120 --> 1:24:22.680
<v Speaker 9>ultimately shaped to the characters became, which I think you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The show is better for it.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, And I do want to say really quickly,

1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:30.639
<v Speaker 10>and this is like just a personal thing you had asked.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to call out Writer for being someone who

1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:36.080
<v Speaker 10>I could talk to. I've like changed my career and

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:38.080
<v Speaker 10>I ended up like getting involved in the arts and

1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:40.960
<v Speaker 10>getting my museum degree and like all this other stuff

1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:43.439
<v Speaker 10>because of conversations I was able to have with Writer

1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:46.439
<v Speaker 10>and just like knowing the appreciation that he had for art.

1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:49.880
<v Speaker 10>And then as we said, Tony didn't actually name his

1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.719
<v Speaker 10>child after Mina, but like he's had a kid since

1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:54.640
<v Speaker 10>and we've been able to kind of look back. So

1:24:55.120 --> 1:24:58.160
<v Speaker 10>you were all three of you were influential in our

1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:01.800
<v Speaker 10>lives and you really helped like help us decide where

1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:03.880
<v Speaker 10>we want to go and what our next chapter looked like.

1:25:03.960 --> 1:25:06.880
<v Speaker 10>And it really was impactful and something that we wanted

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:11.360
<v Speaker 10>to highlight and appreciate because yes, the show has always

1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:12.280
<v Speaker 10>meant something to us.

1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:14.519
<v Speaker 5>This show podnysfrolled me something to us.

1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:18.360
<v Speaker 10>But as individuals, you've each opened up our eyes to

1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:22.439
<v Speaker 10>the potential of art and just you validated our feelings

1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:26.720
<v Speaker 10>about critiquing television and looking into scripts differently. And I

1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:28.960
<v Speaker 10>think that is a service that you don't know that

1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:32.200
<v Speaker 10>you're giving to a bunch of your listeners the ability

1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:35.439
<v Speaker 10>to pursue their artistic goals.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

1:25:36.640 --> 1:25:40.760
<v Speaker 4>That really that really means a lot. That's very that's

1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:44.720
<v Speaker 4>very special. That is an aspect of the podcast we

1:25:44.800 --> 1:25:45.639
<v Speaker 4>never think about.

1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:49.639
<v Speaker 6>We We just we're always so worried that like were.

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<v Speaker 4>We too honest, you know, we're so concerned with whether

1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:55.519
<v Speaker 4>or not we ruined the show. We never really think about,

1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:59.360
<v Speaker 4>like what could people have gained from the show, and

1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:01.599
<v Speaker 4>that is a very special and personal one. So thank

1:26:01.640 --> 1:26:04.479
<v Speaker 4>you for sharing that with us, thank you for joining us,

1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:06.680
<v Speaker 4>thank you for as always, for your thoughtful questions and

1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.599
<v Speaker 4>your honesty, and for being along with us through this,

1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:12.639
<v Speaker 4>through this journey, and we will look forward to whatever

1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:14.880
<v Speaker 4>the future holds for us, including you in that as well.

1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:16.280
<v Speaker 5>So much.

1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:19.519
<v Speaker 8>We really appreciate it. Bye bye, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad we know we didn't ruin the show for them.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so nice what c J said about like,

1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:29.240
<v Speaker 4>that's so cool. I didn't know he had talked to you.

1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Like we have a email correspondence, gone, yeah, oh that's sweet.

1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he really.

1:26:33.760 --> 1:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, was trying to figure out what he wants

1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>to do with his career and his studies and yeah,

1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and we just we're going back and forth about it.

1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's such a smart guy. And they're both so brilliant,

1:26:45.479 --> 1:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing. It's like that you know they Yeah,

1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>he was giving us a lot of credit. But I

1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's also like they ran an amazing podcast, Yes

1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they did, and they have such good critical thinking skills

1:26:57.040 --> 1:26:58.759
<v Speaker 1>about how to come approach Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just like I mean, that's why we

1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:00.599
<v Speaker 2>have them on our.

1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Show, like because it's O for seven seasons, because it's

1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:05.519
<v Speaker 1>like they really have an insight and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they also haven't.

1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:10.479
<v Speaker 7>They haven't been really wrong yet, meaning it's like, oh,

1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:12.200
<v Speaker 7>this season coming up, you're gonna like or this season

1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:12.559
<v Speaker 7>coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>So far I haven't been like, well they well they didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't get that one right. Well, so far they've

1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:18.519
<v Speaker 3>been pretty spot on their opinions.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so far, we're done.

1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:22.479
<v Speaker 3>We're not they've done yet, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep telling you we're We're continuing to podcast. You

1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>keep trying to get away from us.

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<v Speaker 7>It's done, guys, this is your future, Danielle.

1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Look at it.

1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:35.799
<v Speaker 6>Going to become a mute.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all for joining us for this episode of

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<v Speaker 4>Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on

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