1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. Kellen is on the phone 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: today for a first day follow up and he's not 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: getting a call back from a date he went on 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: with a girl named Jen that he really likes. So 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: we're going to see if we can find out why 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: she's ghosting him in a second, but first let's hear 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: about the date. Callen, what's up. How long has it 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: been since you heard from Jen. 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: It's been a couple of weeks, almost a month now, 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: But okay, Yeah, so I texted her and just now 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: respond back, and I just I don't know, I thought 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: we kind of hit it off. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: So why don't we go backwards? Why don't you tell 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: us about, you know, how you guys met and what happened. 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: Well, we we kind of met on Christian mingle, and uh, 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: you know, we chat it back and forth and whatnot, 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: and and I kind out what church she went to, 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and I showed up. I showed up to surprise her, 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: and I thought she thought it was cute. And we 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: went to coffee afterwards, and you know, we talked and 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: and just kind of I think we kind of hit 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: it off, and so we plan another you know, date, 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: because she had our church. There was like a dance 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: sort of event type of thing going on for couples, 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: and I made reservations at the sushi place that was 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: next door to the church, and and so we did that. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought it was a nice, cool little 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: thing that we did. 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: It does seem nice. So were you So you guys 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: were really getting along. Was there any like touchiness or 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: any sparks flying? 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: I just really I really dig her, like she's so 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: dedicated to her church, in her community and her kindness. 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: She is beautiful. I don't know, she just like nobody 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: like I've ever dated before. You know, it's uh uh 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: she makes me want to be better. 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Why do you think she's ghosting? 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, I guess I hit a little jealous. And so 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: we were at the dance and uh it was one 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: of her friends, male friends, that asked her to dance 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: with her, and I agreed. But I just I don't know. 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: I I think I was I think I was too 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: butt hurt about it. And if she saw that, and 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know why I do that. 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we won't been on to date, So it's like, 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't know it just I guess it's just keep 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: inside because I care about her. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you're also you're on a date with her, 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: so you kind of would hope that your date would 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: dance with you. But but you know, friends dance together too. 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: Were you like outwardly angry or was it just. 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: I was? I don't know, I guess I was. I 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: guess I was poudy, you know, I was. 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Just okay, So you didn't try to like fight the 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: guy or all right, well man, we'll see if we 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: can figure it out. Then we'll play a song come Back, 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: and then call her and see if she'll tell us 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: why she's ghosting you and hopefully get you another date. 61 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, I appreciate that. 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: All right, man, So we'll pla us on come Back, 63 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: get your first day follow up next. Right in the 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: middle of our first day follow up, if you're just 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: joining us, Kellen is on the phone and he's getting 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: ghosted by a woman named Jim that he really likes. 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: So we're about to call her and see if she'll 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: tell us why she's ghosting him. But first, Kellen, why 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: don't you catch everybody up on your situation. 70 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, we met on Christian Mingle. I went to our church. 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: We we hit it off, and we went to a 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: dance social there at her church and she was dancing 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: with another guy, and that was a little jealous, you know. 74 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: And then and then so I thought to text her again. 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, see if we can't get a third date, 76 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, And just no response. Two days later, no response. 77 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: I tried it again again, no response. I'm like, maybe 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: I was too jealous. I don't know. 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: You weren't angry jealous, right, you're poudy jealous? 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just yeah, a baby. Yeah, I was crying. 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: Self awareness. 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: That's cool, all right, man, for you Ready for us 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: to call her? 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: I am let's let's hear this all right? 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Here we go, Hello him, I speak to gen please? 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: Yes? 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: Is she? 88 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Hey? 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Jen? How are you? My name is Jubel and I'm 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: calling from a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show. 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: Hi Jen, the whole show is here. My name is Nina. 92 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi. Hi, how are you? I'm good? 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: How are you going great? We do a segment on 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: the show it's called the first Date follow Up. That's 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: where if you go out on a date with somebody 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and then you end up ghosting them. That person can 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: email us to get you on the phone and find 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: out why you're ghosting them. So is there anybody that 99 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: you can think of that would want us to call 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: you because you're not calling him back? 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 5: I mean probably, I guess is it? 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Tell me, yes, it's Kellen. Yeah, he wants to know 103 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: why you're ghosting him. 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 5: Like listen, he was a. 105 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: Great guy, and he was you know, it was a 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: nice like couple of dates like a coffee and a 107 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: date or whatever. But like I found out that he 108 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: was on Tinder, and like, I just don't really think 109 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 4: like our values and stuff like matchup after like hearing 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: about that, So I just don't think. 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: We're going to work. 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: You know. Did he tell you that he was on Tinder? 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Are you on tender? 114 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: No? 115 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, I'm not on Tinder. Like I'm like, 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: you know, everybody lived your life. I'm just I'm not 117 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: about that like clip up culture type thing, you know, 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 5: Like I very specifically, like this is my first online 119 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: stuff going through Christian Mingle. You know, it's just different. 120 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: I'm looking for something different and like you know, again, 121 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: the dates they were great, And I was showing my 122 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: coworker a picture of him and like telling her all 123 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 5: about like how wonderful it was, and immediately she was like, oh, 124 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 5: I've seen him on Tinder and we like you know, 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: got onto like one of the Tinder apps like with people, 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: and like they found him and it was like, oh, 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: that's that's him. 128 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: Cool. 129 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: So I guess, like you know, he just what is 130 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: it like a wolf and sheep's clothing, clothing type of thing. Like, 131 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: I just he's different than I guess how he presented. 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you met on Christian Mingle, so yeah, Tender and 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: Christian Mingle I think are very different places. 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just just to be clear, Jen, is 135 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: it because he was on a dating app or is 136 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: it because it was specifically tender? 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 5: Specifically Tender, like you know, like you know, I'm I'm 138 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: a big big part of like my church and like 139 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: that's how I was raised. 140 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: It's just it's different than. 141 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 5: I know, like how a lot of people live. And 142 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 5: again like that's totally fine, like live your life, but 143 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 5: like it just doesn't match up with like the life 144 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 5: I'm leading. So like okay, yeah, you know, like I 145 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: just I'm sure there are a lot of things that 146 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: are very different and like expectations i'm sure are very 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: different between us. 148 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for being honest with us. I don't 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: know if Kellen's a freak like you think he is, 150 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: but we can find out. Callen, are you a freak? 151 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: No? 152 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: No, I'm not that kind of guy anymore. I should 153 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: have deleted the app, the profile and everything, because the 154 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: girls on there, they're not for me anymore. 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Jen, if you couldn't tell, Kellen's on the phone and 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: he's been listening and wants to talk to you, and 157 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: he's not a freak anymore. 158 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm sorry, but yes, I should have deleted Kender. 159 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't know why I still have it up. I 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: have many apps on my phone, you know, and like 161 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: those girls are. I left that to Christian Mingle because 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: I want somebody with the values and Christian. I'm sorry. 163 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: I will try to prove myself over and over and 164 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: over if I have to. 165 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: You're not really on tender. You just didn't close your account. 166 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, like I I left the tender a long 167 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: time ago. I just didn't I have to delete the 168 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: app and the profile and everything like that. I don't 169 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: know I don't know why I didn't. 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: Are you even Christian? Like, you know, I've heard about 171 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: people like some guys like get onto this Christian mingle 172 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 5: app to like find the innocent girls and they're trying 173 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 5: to corrupt them and whatever, and like it's a competition 174 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: and I terrible. 175 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a Christian. I just you know, I'm tired 176 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: of those girls on tender. 177 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 5: They're like, you're tired of hearing because you probably went 178 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: out with a lot of them, right, I don't know, 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: Like again, we had a good time. I just don't 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: think our values match up. 181 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: You know, I get it, I understand, but I'm not. 182 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: I'm still going to try it. I'm still going to 183 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: prove myself to you. I truly believe that. I don't 184 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: know I like you. I deleted the app today, That's 185 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: what I did. 186 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: And then how are you going to prove to her 187 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that you're there for the Christian name and not the mingling. 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm Christian mingle, not just the mingling. 189 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I will go to her church every Sunday. 190 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: I will prove myself. I swear you're the one. 191 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Whoa the one that's kind of a lot jan What 192 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: do you think would you like to go out with 193 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Kellen on another date? We'll pay for it. 194 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: I just don't know. I just again, I don't know 195 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 5: if we're both sharing the same Christian values. 196 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: And sorry, maybe it's not a no. You know, I 197 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: I get it, I get while you're you know, I'm 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: just I'm just bumped again. I uh. But I will 199 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: be there for you when when you're ready to go 200 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: on a on a second or another date. I really 201 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: enjoyed your church. It's one of the better ones in town. 202 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: Would be awkward if I still went there. I don't 203 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: want to make it awkward for you, but I do 204 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: like a church and the people there, so the doors 205 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: are open for everyone. 206 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: So okay, weirdest like talking about who gets the Lord 207 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: and the breakup. I'm sorry, sorry, calm, but it sounds 208 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: like you're not giving up hope. And Jim, you know 209 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: you said maybe so maybe you guys are running to 210 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: each other at church and you know, see how it goes. 211 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: But just pursue respectfully. Okay, I'm just gonna say that. 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be praying for you. 213 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: Well, I will be praying for you too, and I 214 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 5: hope you have a blessed day. 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: All right, they're off the phone. She like patted him 216 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: on the head big time as he was leaving. Now, 217 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: you just have a blessed stay there. I'll be praying 218 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: for you too. That's the nicest, Like, if you ever yeah. 219 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: J Wills first follow up