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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody, This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger listening to the Season with Peter Schreger. I'm

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Speaker 1: currently at three forty five Park Avenue, which is the

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Speaker 1: official NFL league headquarters. I'm joined by Aaron Wang Kaufman

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Speaker 1: and Jason English, our folks from the iHeartMedia team, because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do an in studio, in person interview with

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Speaker 1: Hans Schroeder, who is the executive vice president of Media Distribution.

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Speaker 1: Hans leads a lot of the league's overall media strategy

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Speaker 1: and we've been talking for months and I thought, with

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Speaker 1: what is an incredible TV sports primarily NFL Weekend ahead,

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Speaker 1: Hans would be a great guest to have on a

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Speaker 1: little different than a coach or a GM or a

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Speaker 1: celebrity like we usually have. Here's one of the decision

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Speaker 1: makers at the league. We're gonna have Hans on in

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Speaker 1: a second. In the meantime, we are currently in a

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Speaker 1: conference room overlooking New York City and Aaron, is this

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Speaker 1: your first time in the league headquarters. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you've got to be on your P's and Q's here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my first time here. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'm allowed to say this, but I was told ahead

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Speaker 2: of time I couldn't wear sneakers, so I had to

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Speaker 2: be a little more dressed up. That's my rual setup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a bright white sneakers. Is it because I'm

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Speaker 1: celebrity talent? Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: Only one of us has been on Celebrity Jefpardy that's it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. No, I'm excited to be here, and it's

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Speaker 1: been a cool couple hours that we have been here,

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Speaker 1: of folks, both off the record and then friends that

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Speaker 1: I've had, And I think the NFL is in a

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Speaker 1: really good place right now, and I'm excited for this week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Hans on in a second to discuss

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Speaker 1: primarily the creation of this Amazon Black Friday game between

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Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins and how it came to be.

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Speaker 1: But I'd be lying Aaron if I'm not still a

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Speaker 1: little bit hungover from what we saw last night on

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Speaker 1: ESPN and ABC Super Bowl rematch. And I've got my

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Speaker 1: concerns about them. Kansas City chiefs. This is my I

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Speaker 1: come in here and I come here with a hat

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Speaker 1: in hand, and I say I have been so don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. They'll figure it out. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: They'll figure it out. And yes, they are seven and

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Speaker 1: three and they're still gonna win the AFC West. And

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Speaker 1: don't worry about They have twenty six drops, the most

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Speaker 1: drops in the league. They have not scored a point

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Speaker 1: in the second half since October twenty second. They also

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Speaker 1: These are not hey, we're figuring it out in September

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Speaker 1: out concerns. These are legitimately do we have the players

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Speaker 1: concerns and they might not have the weapons. And Kelsey

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Speaker 1: I was very, very keen and watching what he had

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Speaker 1: Valdez Scanting drops what would have been the game winning touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It's right in his hands, he drops it, and they

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a great pass. I'm curious to see what

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Speaker 1: know if you know, Patrick Mahomes has never played in

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is much ado about nothing, but I was

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that the Kansas City Chiefs, who I thought

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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. It hasn't happened. Meanwhile, a week ago

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Speaker 2: a schedule. But the Shakir touchdown, like seeing him cut

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Speaker 1: So Buffalo is right back in this thing. The Ravens,

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Speaker 1: We wiped it up. Also like on on Good Morning

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Speaker 1: all right. One of the reasons everyone loves our back

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Speaker 1: and forth in our banter, Aaron, is that we don't

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Speaker 1: just talk football. We talk a lot of things. I

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Speaker 1: We Are. It is a Sondheim mu sick goal slash

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Speaker 1: it's Bobby Cannavale, David Hyde Pierce, this woman MICHAELA Diamond

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Speaker 1: who's got an insane voice. We talk a lot about theater,

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Speaker 1: you and me. This is the only podcast that does

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Speaker 1: I know your daughter's a thespian as well, and you

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Speaker 1: On the list. I cannot this show. So it's not

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Speaker 1: If you're in New York, I'm telling you see it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny as hell. It's got a bigger message, obviously,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest actors, and he's a great dude,

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Speaker 1: that coming. No, And Laura Lennie is cackling, laughing, loving

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Speaker 1: So here we are. I think it's on for a

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Speaker 2: If you're in until January twenty first.

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Speaker 1: I cannot suggest it enough. Go see it at the Shed.

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Speaker 1: I'm the only podcaster slash morning show host who not

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Speaker 1: only will talk to you about Marquez Valdez Scantling's drops,

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Speaker 1: but in the same monologue we'll talk about MICHAELA Diamond

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Speaker 1: and her work in Parade and why she's so fantastic

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Speaker 2: I actually thought you were about to talk about. On Saturday,

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Speaker 2: we went and saw Here Lies Love on Broadway.

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Speaker 2: I was just telling Jason beforehand it is very non

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Speaker 3: I mean last year what did Giants Cowboys did forty

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Speaker 3: two and.

427
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Speaker 1: Most regular season game and his history.

428
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Speaker 3: And history and so for us, you know, we just

429
00:20:11,746 --> 00:20:13,666
Speaker 3: think we can can build on it and fill out

430
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Speaker 3: the weekend. And you know, before we even get to

431
00:20:16,786 --> 00:20:18,866
Speaker 3: Black Friday, you just look at the Sunday slate that

432
00:20:18,906 --> 00:20:22,506
Speaker 3: we've had. You have Pittsburgh Cincinnati anchoring that one o'clock

433
00:20:22,546 --> 00:20:24,266
Speaker 3: window in a pretty meaningful way.

434
00:20:25,386 --> 00:20:26,546
Speaker 1: Denver Cleveland's a big game.

435
00:20:26,626 --> 00:20:28,146
Speaker 3: Denver Cleveland that was a big I mean, there's a

436
00:20:28,186 --> 00:20:31,266
Speaker 3: lot of great games throughout sprinkled throughout the day, but

437
00:20:31,386 --> 00:20:32,586
Speaker 3: just you know, you look at some of those games

438
00:20:32,626 --> 00:20:35,466
Speaker 3: that are really and Jacksonville Houston. Let's talk about the CJ.

439
00:20:35,546 --> 00:20:37,946
Speaker 3: Stroud story for a second. Man, Like, and I think

440
00:20:37,986 --> 00:20:40,146
Speaker 3: they beat Jacksonville the first two day, so like that

441
00:20:40,226 --> 00:20:42,626
Speaker 3: game's going to be fast, game is going to be intense.

442
00:20:42,666 --> 00:20:44,626
Speaker 3: And it rolls into then you know, a couple of

443
00:20:44,666 --> 00:20:47,466
Speaker 3: good late afternoon games, but really Buffalo and Philly. You know,

444
00:20:47,586 --> 00:20:50,346
Speaker 3: Buffalo like coming coming back off the heels of the

445
00:20:50,426 --> 00:20:52,706
Speaker 3: wind on Sunday, and really, you know, a stretch of

446
00:20:52,746 --> 00:20:54,946
Speaker 3: great for twenty five games we have ahead of us

447
00:20:55,266 --> 00:20:57,466
Speaker 3: for the next little bit, rolling into Baltimore and.

448
00:20:57,506 --> 00:21:00,026
Speaker 1: Charge that Baltimore Chargers game, which Chargers kind of feeling

449
00:21:00,066 --> 00:21:02,266
Speaker 1: like he's on the brink a little bit. Raven's finally

450
00:21:02,306 --> 00:21:02,826
Speaker 1: the one seed.

451
00:21:02,946 --> 00:21:04,906
Speaker 3: So and then you end up with the NFC North,

452
00:21:04,946 --> 00:21:07,106
Speaker 3: which you know, the Bears. Know I've had up and

453
00:21:07,146 --> 00:21:08,866
Speaker 3: down a lot of injuries with fields, but you end

454
00:21:08,946 --> 00:21:11,786
Speaker 3: up with a really strong Black and Blue division. The

455
00:21:11,866 --> 00:21:16,106
Speaker 3: great story with the Dobs. Dobbs in Minnesota, by the way,

456
00:21:16,146 --> 00:21:19,666
Speaker 3: who should have gone to Princeton played football talk, Yeah,

457
00:21:19,826 --> 00:21:22,706
Speaker 3: last minute switched to Tennessee. So you know, okay, it

458
00:21:22,786 --> 00:21:25,626
Speaker 3: happened to occasionally, you know, but you know, but uh

459
00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:28,906
Speaker 3: so it's great. So like that weekend of all these games,

460
00:21:28,986 --> 00:21:31,346
Speaker 3: all this football is awesome, So how can we make

461
00:21:31,346 --> 00:21:32,866
Speaker 3: it better? Yeah? How can we make it bigger? Well?

462
00:21:32,866 --> 00:21:34,346
Speaker 1: I remember what was It was the hardball ball the

463
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Speaker 1: first time before the super Bowl. That was the first

464
00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:37,826
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night game and I was in that building. I

465
00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:41,266
Speaker 1: covered it as a reporter going into Baltimore and it

466
00:21:41,306 --> 00:21:43,266
Speaker 1: was same thing, and that was a major deal, Like

467
00:21:43,306 --> 00:21:45,786
Speaker 1: we're going to do football on Thanksgiving evening. And then

468
00:21:45,946 --> 00:21:48,266
Speaker 1: that becomes now a second nature. Everyone just assumes that

469
00:21:48,946 --> 00:21:52,706
Speaker 1: where did the Amazon Black Friday idea come to be?

470
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Speaker 1: And has this been brewing for a while or was

471
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Speaker 1: this Amazon coming to the table to you being like, hey,

472
00:21:57,546 --> 00:21:59,826
Speaker 1: give us the NFL, we'll also put together something and

473
00:21:59,866 --> 00:22:02,146
Speaker 1: we'll kind of we're the face of commerce. Let's put

474
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Speaker 1: together a Black Friday game.

475
00:22:04,066 --> 00:22:07,106
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, as we went into the last cycle

476
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Speaker 3: of deals, so sometime probably early in twenty twenty, we

477
00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:14,666
Speaker 3: did a lot of work starting to look at a

478
00:22:14,746 --> 00:22:17,506
Speaker 3: number of different things. What an expanded season could look like,

479
00:22:18,026 --> 00:22:20,306
Speaker 3: you know, what type of game inventory we'd want to

480
00:22:20,346 --> 00:22:23,386
Speaker 3: take back from our partners, what new windows we could build,

481
00:22:23,426 --> 00:22:26,226
Speaker 3: how do we extend Thursday Night as an example and

482
00:22:26,226 --> 00:22:29,586
Speaker 3: build that into a bigger, broader window. And in midst

483
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Speaker 3: of the sort of noodling, the idea of, hey, should

484
00:22:32,946 --> 00:22:35,146
Speaker 3: we look at Black Friday as a day? You know,

485
00:22:35,386 --> 00:22:39,386
Speaker 3: it's become again such a a ten pole day on

486
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Speaker 3: the calendar, and it's coming off now a day that

487
00:22:41,746 --> 00:22:44,626
Speaker 3: the NFL just dominates on the Thursday of Thanksgiving. Is

488
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Speaker 3: there an opportunity to feel that college is still so

489
00:22:46,746 --> 00:22:49,426
Speaker 3: strong on Saturday? You got a bunch of high school

490
00:22:49,466 --> 00:22:52,626
Speaker 3: Friday Night, you have some college Friday Night, can college

491
00:22:52,626 --> 00:22:56,146
Speaker 3: Friday throughout the day, but you know, college is almost

492
00:22:56,146 --> 00:22:59,066
Speaker 3: more more of their bigger games to Saturday, and some

493
00:22:59,146 --> 00:23:01,946
Speaker 3: of those traditional rivalries aren't on Black Friday quite as much.

494
00:23:02,466 --> 00:23:04,786
Speaker 3: There's an up Hey, is that something we should look at?

495
00:23:04,946 --> 00:23:07,786
Speaker 3: And then we got into the deal process us We said, hey,

496
00:23:08,146 --> 00:23:10,666
Speaker 3: you know, we're sort of seeing and having these conversations

497
00:23:10,666 --> 00:23:14,266
Speaker 3: with everybody across the table, and we started talking to Amazon,

498
00:23:14,266 --> 00:23:16,466
Speaker 3: who had been our partner on the tricast and been

499
00:23:16,506 --> 00:23:20,026
Speaker 3: part of Thursday Night, but the not the primary distributor.

500
00:23:20,586 --> 00:23:22,746
Speaker 3: And he started saying, well, Amazon, okay, we got the

501
00:23:22,746 --> 00:23:26,826
Speaker 3: biggest commerce platform in the entire world. Black Friday that's

502
00:23:26,866 --> 00:23:31,506
Speaker 3: their biggest day of the entire year. You know, these

503
00:23:31,506 --> 00:23:34,426
Speaker 3: things seem like they fit pretty well together. And so

504
00:23:34,506 --> 00:23:36,226
Speaker 3: in the process of that, I think, you know, a

505
00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:39,106
Speaker 3: lot of conversations all the way up to the top

506
00:23:39,146 --> 00:23:41,866
Speaker 3: sides of both organizations, but I think a lot of

507
00:23:41,986 --> 00:23:45,186
Speaker 3: momentum really started to build around there, and Hey, this

508
00:23:45,226 --> 00:23:47,586
Speaker 3: is something that I think could be really transformational for

509
00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:51,386
Speaker 3: both sides, and not just about adding another game window,

510
00:23:52,226 --> 00:23:55,106
Speaker 3: but also how we do something unique. How we create

511
00:23:55,146 --> 00:23:57,066
Speaker 3: a new window, a new ten poll, how do we

512
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Speaker 3: have a bigger impact, How do we bring more elements in,

513
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:01,986
Speaker 3: How do we change the game experience a little bit

514
00:24:02,026 --> 00:24:03,706
Speaker 3: more than what a typical game is. How do we

515
00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:06,666
Speaker 3: have a bigger impact you know on Thursday night for

516
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,786
Speaker 3: good and otherwise? And so those elements all sort of

517
00:24:10,226 --> 00:24:13,466
Speaker 3: wrapped in and I think said hey, and Amazon came

518
00:24:13,506 --> 00:24:15,306
Speaker 3: to said, hey, we really want to do this too,

519
00:24:15,386 --> 00:24:17,826
Speaker 3: and we think we can make it bigger and we

520
00:24:17,826 --> 00:24:20,386
Speaker 3: think we can deliver on all those all those objectives,

521
00:24:20,466 --> 00:24:22,946
Speaker 3: and so it became part of the deal and sort

522
00:24:22,986 --> 00:24:24,946
Speaker 3: of part of the deal that we said, hey, you're one.

523
00:24:25,386 --> 00:24:26,826
Speaker 3: We have enough to get out of the box with.

524
00:24:26,946 --> 00:24:29,586
Speaker 3: We have enough to focus on the fair way and

525
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Speaker 3: deliver against and you know, then we got through the

526
00:24:33,746 --> 00:24:35,306
Speaker 3: end of last year, and we got through around this

527
00:24:35,386 --> 00:24:38,146
Speaker 3: time last year and said, hey, you know, this looks

528
00:24:38,146 --> 00:24:40,466
Speaker 3: like this idea still resonates, still thinks it makes sense.

529
00:24:40,466 --> 00:24:42,546
Speaker 3: When we saw the results of the Cowboys, Giants and

530
00:24:42,586 --> 00:24:46,746
Speaker 3: strong leadership across all three games, quite frankly and said,

531
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Speaker 3: you know, we got to the off season, this is

532
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Speaker 3: the time. You know, we feel really good about the

533
00:24:50,626 --> 00:24:54,066
Speaker 3: awesome start Amazon had last year. This is a way

534
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:56,426
Speaker 3: to sort of really take that and extend it and

535
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Speaker 3: build on it. And so pretty quickly into the off

536
00:24:59,426 --> 00:25:01,546
Speaker 3: season realized this is going to be what we add

537
00:25:01,546 --> 00:25:04,466
Speaker 3: to it. And so we're excited and we're excited and divisional,

538
00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:07,346
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting with the games, especially on Thursday

539
00:25:07,346 --> 00:25:09,386
Speaker 3: and into Friday. They're all interesting too because they're all

540
00:25:09,426 --> 00:25:12,626
Speaker 3: divisional games, right, and those divisional teams know each other,

541
00:25:13,066 --> 00:25:15,466
Speaker 3: you know, they've scouted each other. You know, in short weeks,

542
00:25:15,666 --> 00:25:17,466
Speaker 3: you tend to get some of the best games from

543
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Speaker 3: those divisional sides that sort of know each other a

544
00:25:19,626 --> 00:25:22,546
Speaker 3: little bit better, a little bit more intimately than maybe

545
00:25:22,586 --> 00:25:24,066
Speaker 3: two other teams that are on the calendar.

546
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Speaker 1: When you guys agree to do the Amazon Black Friday

547
00:25:27,866 --> 00:25:30,266
Speaker 1: game in the second year of Amazon, you go to

548
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Speaker 1: these league meetings and the schedule releases coming in May,

549
00:25:33,386 --> 00:25:34,946
Speaker 1: and the league meetings are usually in March. I know,

550
00:25:34,986 --> 00:25:38,346
Speaker 1: there's behind closed doors and there's also several zooms and calls,

551
00:25:38,386 --> 00:25:41,426
Speaker 1: and all different networks will say, hey, if possible, here's

552
00:25:41,426 --> 00:25:43,186
Speaker 1: our ranking system, here are the games we want, if

553
00:25:43,226 --> 00:25:45,866
Speaker 1: there's any way, and you guys kind of work with

554
00:25:45,906 --> 00:25:48,066
Speaker 1: the networks and say, well, we're going to give ESPN

555
00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:50,346
Speaker 1: that Monday night game, but then Fox you're gonna get

556
00:25:50,386 --> 00:25:52,586
Speaker 1: Eagles forty nine ers and CBS, don't worry, you're gonna

557
00:25:52,586 --> 00:25:55,506
Speaker 1: get this awesome you know, Bill's Eagles game. You spread

558
00:25:55,546 --> 00:25:56,266
Speaker 1: to love a little bit.

559
00:25:56,666 --> 00:25:57,346
Speaker 3: Where does the.

560
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Speaker 1: Friday Black Amazon on the Thanksgiving Day game and NFL

561
00:26:00,946 --> 00:26:03,626
Speaker 1: kickoff and these huge Sunday night Where was that in

562
00:26:03,706 --> 00:26:05,306
Speaker 1: kind of the pecking order? And was that their first

563
00:26:05,306 --> 00:26:07,186
Speaker 1: pick of like, hey, that's our biggest game.

564
00:26:07,746 --> 00:26:10,786
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think you're absolutely right. We go to

565
00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:13,066
Speaker 3: all partners and you know, one of the data points

566
00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:15,346
Speaker 3: that's really helpful for us is to get our partner's

567
00:26:15,426 --> 00:26:18,546
Speaker 3: perspectives on how they view the top games of the year,

568
00:26:18,626 --> 00:26:20,866
Speaker 3: the games that may matter the most to them. Sometimes

569
00:26:21,226 --> 00:26:23,626
Speaker 3: it's not always the most marquee game. Sometimes they just

570
00:26:23,786 --> 00:26:25,786
Speaker 3: like a game better, they feel it fits better for

571
00:26:25,826 --> 00:26:30,346
Speaker 3: their network, their markets, their history, you know, if they've

572
00:26:30,386 --> 00:26:32,306
Speaker 3: covered that game the past couple of years, where they

573
00:26:32,346 --> 00:26:35,906
Speaker 3: just want it right. And so clearly, you know, we

574
00:26:35,986 --> 00:26:38,866
Speaker 3: thought about Black Friday in a way that was very

575
00:26:38,946 --> 00:26:40,466
Speaker 3: much at the top of the list that it's a

576
00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:43,266
Speaker 3: new window, it's a window we want to make sure

577
00:26:43,826 --> 00:26:45,786
Speaker 3: we put our best foot forward and we schedule a

578
00:26:45,826 --> 00:26:48,066
Speaker 3: game that we think is going to be a very

579
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:51,746
Speaker 3: strong matchup. Look, you never know, we you know, fortunately,

580
00:26:52,386 --> 00:26:54,186
Speaker 3: as of this point in the year, we haven't flexed

581
00:26:54,226 --> 00:26:56,266
Speaker 3: the game in any of our packages yet and so

582
00:26:56,426 --> 00:26:58,226
Speaker 3: maybe the crystal ball this year is a little bit

583
00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:01,906
Speaker 3: better than than even other years where Mike North and

584
00:27:01,946 --> 00:27:05,026
Speaker 3: Howard and Annie and Charlotte, the scheduling team, you know

585
00:27:05,146 --> 00:27:07,426
Speaker 3: what they do for five months, you know, really from

586
00:27:07,506 --> 00:27:12,146
Speaker 3: January through mid May of NonStop, six sometimes seven days

587
00:27:12,146 --> 00:27:14,666
Speaker 3: a week, going to all the permutations to schedule. They

588
00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:17,226
Speaker 3: work pretty hard to make that crystal ball shine pretty bright.

589
00:27:18,106 --> 00:27:20,386
Speaker 3: And this year, you know, it's it's proven up and

590
00:27:20,426 --> 00:27:23,226
Speaker 3: we've had great stories, We've had some things we couldn't predict,

591
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:26,706
Speaker 3: and and so you never know exactly how the matchup's

592
00:27:26,706 --> 00:27:28,306
Speaker 3: going to play out like you think it is. Certainly

593
00:27:28,386 --> 00:27:30,266
Speaker 3: this year when we went into the year, we're thinking, hey,

594
00:27:30,266 --> 00:27:32,546
Speaker 3: this is the Jets with Aaron Rodgers and coming in

595
00:27:32,586 --> 00:27:35,146
Speaker 3: against the Miami. That's going to be explained it. Yeah,

596
00:27:35,226 --> 00:27:37,386
Speaker 3: and there's been some turnover, there's some changes, the Jets

597
00:27:37,386 --> 00:27:39,346
Speaker 3: have gone through some ups and downs, but you know,

598
00:27:39,466 --> 00:27:42,186
Speaker 3: are still in the playoff hunt, still fighting for it. Now,

599
00:27:42,266 --> 00:27:44,666
Speaker 3: gonna have a new quarterback this week. You know, you

600
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:48,506
Speaker 3: get the Dolphins, you know, with a chance to sort

601
00:27:48,506 --> 00:27:51,266
Speaker 3: of continue to beat some teams that are maybe perceived

602
00:27:51,266 --> 00:27:53,666
Speaker 3: as a little bit stronger teams and better teams and

603
00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:55,826
Speaker 3: then maybe some of their wins that people would hold

604
00:27:55,906 --> 00:27:58,266
Speaker 3: up to. So you know, look at the NFL is

605
00:27:58,266 --> 00:28:00,026
Speaker 3: a week to week leagues. I don't know how much

606
00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:02,386
Speaker 3: but stock you put into all that. But the idea

607
00:28:02,426 --> 00:28:04,706
Speaker 3: is we still think it's a really good matchup and

608
00:28:04,746 --> 00:28:07,226
Speaker 3: you know, anchored and centered right around New York when

609
00:28:07,266 --> 00:28:09,906
Speaker 3: you know, retail capital maybe a whole world to play

610
00:28:09,906 --> 00:28:11,386
Speaker 3: in a day that's going to have a lot of

611
00:28:11,386 --> 00:28:13,266
Speaker 3: retail themes to it. There's a lot I think we

612
00:28:13,346 --> 00:28:17,226
Speaker 3: can do adjacent to that. So we're super excited about

613
00:28:17,266 --> 00:28:19,106
Speaker 3: you know what, the Dolphins coming to the Jets is

614
00:28:19,106 --> 00:28:21,626
Speaker 3: going to be on Friday, and you know, again, we

615
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:23,546
Speaker 3: can only set up so much and then at some

616
00:28:23,626 --> 00:28:25,786
Speaker 3: points the game itself. But we're hopeful that it's going

617
00:28:25,826 --> 00:28:26,466
Speaker 3: to be a great one.

618
00:28:26,506 --> 00:28:28,546
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool because a couple of years

619
00:28:28,586 --> 00:28:32,026
Speaker 1: ago they debuted the Nickelodeon game and that was a

620
00:28:32,146 --> 00:28:33,946
Speaker 1: huge success, and it was like, here's something that's a

621
00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:36,106
Speaker 1: little outside the box that you might not be typically

622
00:28:36,226 --> 00:28:38,266
Speaker 1: used to as an NFL fan, and oh wait, we

623
00:28:38,306 --> 00:28:41,586
Speaker 1: love it. This year the Falcons Jaguars on the Toy

624
00:28:41,666 --> 00:28:46,506
Speaker 1: Story broadcast, which a different audience, very well received. People

625
00:28:46,546 --> 00:28:49,066
Speaker 1: loved it. Now you have this Black Friday, They like,

626
00:28:49,586 --> 00:28:51,906
Speaker 1: is there a group here within your group of media

627
00:28:52,066 --> 00:28:54,466
Speaker 1: colleagues at the league office who are just constantly throwing

628
00:28:54,506 --> 00:28:56,266
Speaker 1: things at the wall saying, hey, what if we consider this?

629
00:28:56,306 --> 00:28:57,906
Speaker 1: What if we considered that? I feel like that's a

630
00:28:57,946 --> 00:29:00,746
Speaker 1: cool ideation process of we have the game, we know

631
00:29:00,826 --> 00:29:03,546
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Who else can we reach? How else can

632
00:29:03,546 --> 00:29:05,466
Speaker 1: we reach them? And then what avenues can we do it.

633
00:29:05,906 --> 00:29:08,586
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, okay, I think the benefit we have is

634
00:29:08,826 --> 00:29:11,666
Speaker 3: we have a super talented team, not only directly in

635
00:29:11,706 --> 00:29:15,666
Speaker 3: the broadcast and media group and and the ideas that

636
00:29:15,786 --> 00:29:19,026
Speaker 3: get generated from that crew, but across the league. People

637
00:29:19,026 --> 00:29:21,266
Speaker 3: aren't afraid to throw ideas at us. I mean, it's

638
00:29:21,266 --> 00:29:24,146
Speaker 3: one of the things Commission really, one of his management

639
00:29:24,186 --> 00:29:27,426
Speaker 3: and leadership styles is constantly about innovation and evolution and

640
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:29,666
Speaker 3: pushing forward. It's it's not so much what we've done,

641
00:29:29,746 --> 00:29:31,426
Speaker 3: it's what we can do and what's ahead of us.

642
00:29:31,906 --> 00:29:34,426
Speaker 3: And you sense that around here and there is now

643
00:29:34,666 --> 00:29:36,866
Speaker 3: we want to be smart. We want to be smart,

644
00:29:36,866 --> 00:29:38,866
Speaker 3: and we want to be thoughtful and where we experiment

645
00:29:38,866 --> 00:29:41,226
Speaker 3: and how we push. So a lot of work goes

646
00:29:41,226 --> 00:29:44,706
Speaker 3: into the evaluation and ultimately the execution of those ideas.

647
00:29:44,746 --> 00:29:46,786
Speaker 3: But you know, it just doesn't stop there. We have

648
00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:49,746
Speaker 3: great partners, you know, our partners bring us ideas, Our

649
00:29:49,786 --> 00:29:52,586
Speaker 3: partners push us on, Hey can we do this? Hey

650
00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:54,946
Speaker 3: can we do that? And we love that. We love that.

651
00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:56,906
Speaker 3: And you know other people, I think you've thrown a

652
00:29:56,906 --> 00:30:01,306
Speaker 3: few ideas, don't be shy there I about different ideas. So,

653
00:30:02,146 --> 00:30:03,866
Speaker 3: you know, a lot a lot of the work ultimately

654
00:30:03,906 --> 00:30:05,946
Speaker 3: is a prioritization, so what here is really going to

655
00:30:05,986 --> 00:30:07,986
Speaker 3: break through? And then the learnings we get out of

656
00:30:08,026 --> 00:30:10,706
Speaker 3: it to make sure you're really disciplined that over time,

657
00:30:10,746 --> 00:30:12,826
Speaker 3: you're not doing something to do something, you're doing something

658
00:30:12,826 --> 00:30:14,946
Speaker 3: to have an impact. And that's what we've seen, and

659
00:30:15,306 --> 00:30:17,546
Speaker 3: you mentioned a couple of those all broadcasts. Certainly, we

660
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:20,346
Speaker 3: love what we've done with Nick, We love the toy story,

661
00:30:20,386 --> 00:30:22,426
Speaker 3: we love what you know. I think the Manning cast

662
00:30:22,546 --> 00:30:25,266
Speaker 3: have really grown. We love what Amazon's doing with Prime

663
00:30:25,346 --> 00:30:29,706
Speaker 3: Vision and that deep, cool predictive elements, you know, bringing

664
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:32,906
Speaker 3: some AI and really inside the game and even going

665
00:30:32,906 --> 00:30:36,266
Speaker 3: to the All twenty ten all the broadcast was called Lebron.

666
00:30:36,506 --> 00:30:38,826
Speaker 3: Lebron's great. But you know it's not just some of

667
00:30:38,826 --> 00:30:40,746
Speaker 3: that stuff catches more of the attention. Some of the

668
00:30:40,746 --> 00:30:43,546
Speaker 3: stuff we're doing just to make the game more available

669
00:30:43,586 --> 00:30:45,506
Speaker 3: to different parts of our audience, you know, our Spanish

670
00:30:45,586 --> 00:30:49,706
Speaker 3: language broadcasts, especially as we add more Spanish broadcast distribution

671
00:30:49,826 --> 00:30:52,706
Speaker 3: on Telemundo ultimately now with Univision this year on Super

672
00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:56,466
Speaker 3: Bowl with CBS, and making sure we're giving our fans

673
00:30:56,546 --> 00:30:59,386
Speaker 3: on the screen they want the experience they want. That's

674
00:30:59,426 --> 00:31:01,986
Speaker 3: really important to us. And you know, there's some inertia

675
00:31:01,986 --> 00:31:04,426
Speaker 3: to overcome. There's some ways that hey, we've been doing

676
00:31:04,426 --> 00:31:06,306
Speaker 3: this for a long time that you got to break

677
00:31:06,426 --> 00:31:08,946
Speaker 3: through a little bit. But we're really excited and the

678
00:31:08,986 --> 00:31:11,826
Speaker 3: growth and the ways that people can now engage with

679
00:31:11,906 --> 00:31:13,826
Speaker 3: our content. What you've seen just with the launch of

680
00:31:13,946 --> 00:31:17,346
Speaker 3: NFL Plus, of taking network now where people can watch

681
00:31:17,386 --> 00:31:19,506
Speaker 3: you guys on any screen at any time, any place,

682
00:31:19,626 --> 00:31:22,626
Speaker 3: or at red Zone and Scott or what YouTube's done

683
00:31:22,626 --> 00:31:25,466
Speaker 3: with Sunday Ticket. You know, it's a world that we

684
00:31:25,546 --> 00:31:28,346
Speaker 3: all live in and see it every day that just

685
00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:30,986
Speaker 3: if you're a media consumer, you know how patterns and

686
00:31:31,026 --> 00:31:33,226
Speaker 3: habits are changing, and so we got to change with it.

687
00:31:33,746 --> 00:31:35,946
Speaker 3: And at times we can actually use our content to

688
00:31:36,026 --> 00:31:37,546
Speaker 3: drive that change, which is exciting.

689
00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:39,306
Speaker 1: One of the other cool things that you guys have

690
00:31:39,386 --> 00:31:41,306
Speaker 1: really leaned into the last few years, and I commend

691
00:31:41,346 --> 00:31:43,466
Speaker 1: you for it, is the complimentary stuff.

692
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:43,586
Speaker 3: Now.

693
00:31:43,586 --> 00:31:45,826
Speaker 1: Obviously we have the all cast, but I'm talking partner

694
00:31:45,906 --> 00:31:49,346
Speaker 1: with Netflix and a show that was the number one

695
00:31:49,386 --> 00:31:51,906
Speaker 1: show this summer. I've told this story before. I was

696
00:31:51,906 --> 00:31:55,146
Speaker 1: on a flight to la and there is a young

697
00:31:55,186 --> 00:31:58,626
Speaker 1: woman with three kids and she's got her ear pods

698
00:31:58,626 --> 00:32:02,026
Speaker 1: in and she's watching Marcus Mariota on the quarterback and

699
00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:04,146
Speaker 1: she's tending to the three kids. But I don't Maybe

700
00:32:04,146 --> 00:32:06,546
Speaker 1: she's a diehardp maybe she's not. Maybe it's because it's

701
00:32:06,546 --> 00:32:09,106
Speaker 1: the number one trending thing on Netflix and she's like,

702
00:32:09,146 --> 00:32:10,946
Speaker 1: what is this. I'll click on this and learn more

703
00:32:10,946 --> 00:32:13,546
Speaker 1: about Mahomes and cousins. But between that and then I

704
00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:18,186
Speaker 1: see the press release about a Skydance documentary with Jerry Jones,

705
00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:20,306
Speaker 1: and I know that's in the works. Right now, it

706
00:32:20,426 --> 00:32:22,826
Speaker 1: feels like the NFL is Okay, We've got our game

707
00:32:22,866 --> 00:32:24,146
Speaker 1: and we're not going to touch it and it's going

708
00:32:24,186 --> 00:32:26,626
Speaker 1: to be pure, but there are other extensions we can

709
00:32:26,666 --> 00:32:28,426
Speaker 1: do and we're gonna We're gonna try, We're gonna go

710
00:32:28,466 --> 00:32:28,746
Speaker 1: for it.

711
00:32:28,986 --> 00:32:31,226
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many great stories to tell out there,

712
00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:35,586
Speaker 3: and Ross Ketover and Keith and Pat and the film's

713
00:32:35,626 --> 00:32:38,346
Speaker 3: team do such a Jess do such a great job.

714
00:32:38,426 --> 00:32:40,546
Speaker 3: But I don't think, you know, we just can't do

715
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:42,906
Speaker 3: all of them. So we have this new partnership with Skydance,

716
00:32:42,946 --> 00:32:44,826
Speaker 3: and I think you'll start to three really over the

717
00:32:44,906 --> 00:32:49,266
Speaker 3: next couple of years, accelerate the amount of great content

718
00:32:49,306 --> 00:32:51,666
Speaker 3: we're able to produce about the NFL and all other sports.

719
00:32:51,666 --> 00:32:53,266
Speaker 3: You know, the goal there is to be the ultimate

720
00:32:53,306 --> 00:32:56,266
Speaker 3: sports studio across media, and I think they're on their

721
00:32:56,866 --> 00:32:59,026
Speaker 3: way to do that. And you're right, like we're just

722
00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:01,626
Speaker 3: starting to scratch the surface. And some of these other

723
00:33:01,706 --> 00:33:05,066
Speaker 3: forms non game stuff or you know, like like quarterback

724
00:33:05,106 --> 00:33:07,426
Speaker 3: getting onto those platforms. We know our fans are spending

725
00:33:07,466 --> 00:33:10,306
Speaker 3: those times. Sometimes, you know, it's about taking something like

726
00:33:10,306 --> 00:33:12,746
Speaker 3: the toy Story game that was available in ninety five countries.

727
00:33:13,146 --> 00:33:15,186
Speaker 3: I don't even like that, yeah, right, and trying to

728
00:33:15,186 --> 00:33:18,226
Speaker 3: get people to experience football in a different way, you know,

729
00:33:18,306 --> 00:33:21,066
Speaker 3: and sometimes about's going up beyond different parts of the game.

730
00:33:21,146 --> 00:33:24,266
Speaker 3: Like flag football now is a high school sport for

731
00:33:24,706 --> 00:33:26,866
Speaker 3: women in ten states I think around the country, and

732
00:33:26,906 --> 00:33:29,826
Speaker 3: it's going to double and it continues to grow at

733
00:33:29,946 --> 00:33:32,906
Speaker 3: astronomical rates. It's going to be in the Olympics in

734
00:33:33,066 --> 00:33:35,626
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, And so how can we cover that more?

735
00:33:35,986 --> 00:33:38,746
Speaker 3: You know, more people playing football is a great thing.

736
00:33:38,786 --> 00:33:41,666
Speaker 3: It's active, it's athletic, it learns how to be a team.

737
00:33:41,706 --> 00:33:44,306
Speaker 3: It's the life lessons you learn. So how can we

738
00:33:44,306 --> 00:33:46,826
Speaker 3: help drive that, Like it just gets so wide so

739
00:33:46,946 --> 00:33:49,346
Speaker 3: quick in such an exciting way, and a lot of

740
00:33:49,346 --> 00:33:51,506
Speaker 3: this means we're going to have some partners that are

741
00:33:51,506 --> 00:33:53,706
Speaker 3: there aren't our traditional partners, I mean, you know, and

742
00:33:54,666 --> 00:33:56,426
Speaker 3: the fun part in my twenty two years at the

743
00:33:56,506 --> 00:34:00,586
Speaker 3: league is generally, you know, we've added partners because people,

744
00:34:00,586 --> 00:34:02,546
Speaker 3: once they're in the NFL business, they want to stay

745
00:34:02,546 --> 00:34:05,866
Speaker 3: in the NFL business, and we find ways there's different

746
00:34:05,906 --> 00:34:08,026
Speaker 3: ways we can and slice our rights, cut our rights

747
00:34:08,026 --> 00:34:09,866
Speaker 3: to make sure that people don't want to stay, and

748
00:34:09,906 --> 00:34:12,906
Speaker 3: most do just given the uniqueness and the value I

749
00:34:12,946 --> 00:34:15,346
Speaker 3: think us, but also our partners, it's really important to have

750
00:34:15,306 --> 00:34:17,666
Speaker 3: partners that you know, are happy, partners that are that

751
00:34:17,746 --> 00:34:21,026
Speaker 3: are feeling like they're able to participate in the engage

752
00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:23,506
Speaker 3: with the excitement and the value creation around the product

753
00:34:24,066 --> 00:34:27,386
Speaker 3: that they do, which is awesome. Look a lot of

754
00:34:27,386 --> 00:34:29,866
Speaker 3: it we should just talk and take a step back.

755
00:34:29,946 --> 00:34:32,946
Speaker 3: What the game itself is just awesome still, you know,

756
00:34:33,026 --> 00:34:35,746
Speaker 3: I mean even with you know, the number of close games,

757
00:34:35,786 --> 00:34:38,346
Speaker 3: you know, field goal finish, whatever.

758
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:41,426
Speaker 1: I think on a TV like I'm always in LA

759
00:34:41,586 --> 00:34:43,986
Speaker 1: for Fox's pregame on Sundays and I fly back on

760
00:34:44,066 --> 00:34:46,426
Speaker 1: Jet Blue and they have the games on the screen

761
00:34:46,506 --> 00:34:49,106
Speaker 1: and every single screen on the fight back where there

762
00:34:49,106 --> 00:34:52,346
Speaker 1: it be man, woman, child, whoever, it's NFL football, and

763
00:34:52,386 --> 00:34:55,066
Speaker 1: it's because it's great as a TV product as well.

764
00:34:55,306 --> 00:34:57,146
Speaker 1: I think it lends itself to the TV product as

765
00:34:57,186 --> 00:34:59,546
Speaker 1: much as any other sport, and the ratings bear that out.

766
00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:02,666
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I mean, you know, it's it's always tough,

767
00:35:02,706 --> 00:35:04,986
Speaker 3: and you obviously get a little bit bubbling you see

768
00:35:04,986 --> 00:35:08,546
Speaker 3: a Burrow go down or a you know, Aaron Rodgers,

769
00:35:08,586 --> 00:35:10,426
Speaker 3: but you know, to see some of these others, the CJ.

770
00:35:10,506 --> 00:35:13,346
Speaker 3: Stroud story is just incredible to see what Rock Purty's

771
00:35:13,346 --> 00:35:17,146
Speaker 3: doings again, Josh Doobbs, Like, you know, it's the fun

772
00:35:17,226 --> 00:35:19,466
Speaker 3: part is the game and the excitement on the game

773
00:35:20,426 --> 00:35:23,346
Speaker 3: allows these stories to evolve and allows these players to

774
00:35:23,386 --> 00:35:26,946
Speaker 3: step up, and it's just amazing. It's just awesome. Every week,

775
00:35:27,026 --> 00:35:30,466
Speaker 3: like the season's funny. You look down and you can't

776
00:35:30,466 --> 00:35:32,466
Speaker 3: believe you're already into week twelve. Yea, it feels like

777
00:35:32,466 --> 00:35:34,666
Speaker 3: we're in week four and we're here where it's end

778
00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:37,666
Speaker 3: of November and we're almost in the stretch of the playoffs.

779
00:35:37,266 --> 00:35:39,626
Speaker 1: From a macro standpoint, and you know, all the articles

780
00:35:39,626 --> 00:35:42,106
Speaker 1: and the trades would say that, you know, sport TV

781
00:35:42,266 --> 00:35:44,746
Speaker 1: is dying and there's a Hollywood strike in it, but

782
00:35:44,866 --> 00:35:49,346
Speaker 1: the football ratings remain pretty good and pretty robust, and

783
00:35:49,906 --> 00:35:52,346
Speaker 1: baseball's trying to figure out innovative ways to change their game,

784
00:35:52,386 --> 00:35:55,706
Speaker 1: and basketball is in the nd season tournament football's ratings.

785
00:35:56,106 --> 00:35:58,106
Speaker 1: Is there a I don't want to say, is there

786
00:35:58,106 --> 00:36:00,226
Speaker 1: a pride? But is there sort of a we're the

787
00:36:00,226 --> 00:36:01,826
Speaker 1: biggest show in town feeling here or do you guys

788
00:36:01,906 --> 00:36:03,706
Speaker 1: keep yourselves grounded and say, hey, that can all go

789
00:36:03,746 --> 00:36:05,266
Speaker 1: away in a second. We got to stay and just

790
00:36:05,306 --> 00:36:07,866
Speaker 1: treat this as if we're a small town team trying

791
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:08,626
Speaker 1: to get into the game.

792
00:36:09,266 --> 00:36:11,626
Speaker 3: It's definitely more of the latter. Like you know, it's

793
00:36:11,666 --> 00:36:15,346
Speaker 3: a constant view of paranoid would be too strong a word.

794
00:36:15,386 --> 00:36:17,466
Speaker 3: You know, the quote out there only the paranoid survive.

795
00:36:17,706 --> 00:36:21,146
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's paranoid. But there is a hyper focus. Again,

796
00:36:21,186 --> 00:36:23,946
Speaker 3: I go back all the way and from mmissioner on

797
00:36:24,066 --> 00:36:26,906
Speaker 3: down and Brian, who leads all of medium business for us,

798
00:36:26,946 --> 00:36:29,506
Speaker 3: you know, pushes on it, and just there's an ethos

799
00:36:29,506 --> 00:36:31,666
Speaker 3: to how can we continue to innovate, how can we

800
00:36:31,746 --> 00:36:34,906
Speaker 3: continue to evolve? And the product's great today, but there

801
00:36:34,946 --> 00:36:36,946
Speaker 3: have to be ways we can we can make it better.

802
00:36:36,946 --> 00:36:39,826
Speaker 3: And some stuff's very visible. Some stuff you see somebody

803
00:36:39,786 --> 00:36:41,506
Speaker 3: you know, you know. A few years ago, we made

804
00:36:41,946 --> 00:36:44,346
Speaker 3: did a bunch of research. We used to have five

805
00:36:44,346 --> 00:36:47,346
Speaker 3: breaks in a quarter, and that felt like a lot

806
00:36:47,386 --> 00:36:50,626
Speaker 3: of commercials. It's interested when we did a you know,

807
00:36:50,706 --> 00:36:52,826
Speaker 3: people may remember what we call the old double up

808
00:36:52,866 --> 00:36:56,266
Speaker 3: where there's a touchdown, commercial, took a commercial, came back,

809
00:36:56,346 --> 00:36:59,226
Speaker 3: kickoff commercial. You know that used to happen. I used

810
00:36:59,226 --> 00:37:02,266
Speaker 3: to have a lot throughout the year. And we found

811
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:03,986
Speaker 3: we did a bunch of research and we found our

812
00:37:03,986 --> 00:37:07,426
Speaker 3: fans wanted less commercial breaks, but they didn't mind if

813
00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,426
Speaker 3: they were slightly long. Yeah, And so we went from

814
00:37:09,466 --> 00:37:11,306
Speaker 3: a two minute break to a two twenty and we

815
00:37:11,386 --> 00:37:15,986
Speaker 3: took five down to four. And it's really benefit of

816
00:37:15,986 --> 00:37:18,106
Speaker 3: the game all the way up to the Super Bowl

817
00:37:18,106 --> 00:37:20,346
Speaker 3: and the flexibility Now we're working with our partners and

818
00:37:20,426 --> 00:37:23,106
Speaker 3: sort of we're able to slide breaks between quarters. So

819
00:37:23,146 --> 00:37:25,026
Speaker 3: if there's a natural opportunity a lot of scoring in

820
00:37:25,066 --> 00:37:27,786
Speaker 3: one quarter, that's natural downtime, how can we take a

821
00:37:27,826 --> 00:37:29,986
Speaker 3: break there? Again, it gets back to what's the best

822
00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:32,426
Speaker 3: viewing experience, And by the way, not just for watching

823
00:37:32,426 --> 00:37:34,706
Speaker 3: it at home, but in the stadium too. The stadium

824
00:37:34,746 --> 00:37:36,226
Speaker 3: is still the best place to see a game. You

825
00:37:36,266 --> 00:37:38,666
Speaker 3: go to a game as a pure fan. The excitement,

826
00:37:38,786 --> 00:37:41,746
Speaker 3: the vibrancy, it's the drama, the patrick, it's just amazing.

827
00:37:41,986 --> 00:37:44,146
Speaker 3: But nobody wants to stand around there either. So, like

828
00:37:44,626 --> 00:37:46,666
Speaker 3: all those little things that may not catch as much

829
00:37:46,666 --> 00:37:49,026
Speaker 3: of the attention, how can we continue to make it better?

830
00:37:49,346 --> 00:37:51,946
Speaker 3: How can we continue to iterate We're going to keep

831
00:37:52,026 --> 00:37:55,066
Speaker 3: doing it, you know, and you know, we're fortunate to

832
00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:58,066
Speaker 3: have such a great game, great players, great athletes, great

833
00:37:58,106 --> 00:38:01,106
Speaker 3: coaches to work around, and so our job is just,

834
00:38:01,186 --> 00:38:03,386
Speaker 3: you know, how do we continue it to make it better?

835
00:38:08,826 --> 00:38:10,626
Speaker 1: Your story real quick? I find it cool. You just

836
00:38:10,626 --> 00:38:13,186
Speaker 1: said twenty two years of the league and kind of

837
00:38:13,186 --> 00:38:16,866
Speaker 1: an unorthodox path. You were working in Sydney, Australia at

838
00:38:16,866 --> 00:38:19,746
Speaker 1: one point and you made the jump to go from finance.

839
00:38:19,786 --> 00:38:22,306
Speaker 1: I would imagine it was in that world or insurance.

840
00:38:22,306 --> 00:38:24,346
Speaker 3: You tell me it was a football right, yeah, no,

841
00:38:24,386 --> 00:38:26,226
Speaker 3: it was, so you know, it's funny. I was the

842
00:38:26,266 --> 00:38:28,586
Speaker 3: son of a coach. My dad coached at West Point

843
00:38:28,946 --> 00:38:31,586
Speaker 3: at a fascinating time in the sixties. Paul Dietzel was

844
00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:33,626
Speaker 3: the head coach who won a national title at LSU,

845
00:38:34,386 --> 00:38:36,626
Speaker 3: then had Bill Parson. Well until you lived in a

846
00:38:36,626 --> 00:38:38,746
Speaker 3: triplex with Bill Parcells on one side and Bobby and

847
00:38:38,746 --> 00:38:41,586
Speaker 3: I on the other. But there's a cradle of coaches

848
00:38:41,586 --> 00:38:44,626
Speaker 3: with Ken Hatshield and Bill Battle and whatever. He then

849
00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:45,986
Speaker 3: went to be the head coach at the Coast Guard

850
00:38:46,026 --> 00:38:49,226
Speaker 3: Academy whereas Ad was autogram and then he came back

851
00:38:49,266 --> 00:38:54,306
Speaker 3: to West Point in the seventies, was there with you know,

852
00:38:54,306 --> 00:38:56,346
Speaker 3: with a number of other great coaches, with a basketball

853
00:38:56,346 --> 00:38:59,506
Speaker 3: coach named Coaches and otherwise so too, and then ended

854
00:38:59,586 --> 00:39:01,906
Speaker 3: up working for years for a coach he coach with

855
00:39:01,946 --> 00:39:05,426
Speaker 3: Bill Battle and retail licensing and apparel. So I was

856
00:39:05,506 --> 00:39:08,786
Speaker 3: an athlete, played and football out of fortune, playing up

857
00:39:08,786 --> 00:39:12,866
Speaker 3: through Princeton, and I always love sports. I always was

858
00:39:12,906 --> 00:39:16,386
Speaker 3: consumed by it. I did start my career off in

859
00:39:16,386 --> 00:39:19,506
Speaker 3: investment banking, sort of followed many of the others at

860
00:39:19,546 --> 00:39:22,146
Speaker 3: school down that path and was a remarkable way to

861
00:39:22,746 --> 00:39:26,346
Speaker 3: break into the professional world. Incredible experience learned a ton

862
00:39:26,586 --> 00:39:28,986
Speaker 3: got to travel as an athlete, didn't get to go

863
00:39:29,026 --> 00:39:31,866
Speaker 3: overseason college, so went over to Sydney for a while,

864
00:39:32,426 --> 00:39:35,346
Speaker 3: just incredible. Then went to an Internet company during the

865
00:39:35,386 --> 00:39:37,266
Speaker 3: first bubble in two thousand and two thousand and one,

866
00:39:37,786 --> 00:39:41,546
Speaker 3: asked Jeeves, now asked dot Com and brother randomly a

867
00:39:41,626 --> 00:39:43,906
Speaker 3: guy had left the NFL and went to work at

868
00:39:43,906 --> 00:39:46,906
Speaker 3: a small startup investment firm with a friend who I

869
00:39:46,986 --> 00:39:49,826
Speaker 3: met in Australia and said, the NFL is looking for somebody.

870
00:39:49,826 --> 00:39:51,826
Speaker 3: And you know, at that time, it was really much

871
00:39:51,866 --> 00:39:54,306
Speaker 3: more of a league. There wasn't that much turnover, that

872
00:39:54,386 --> 00:39:57,986
Speaker 3: many new spots, and you know, just so happened. I

873
00:39:58,026 --> 00:40:01,866
Speaker 3: was able to get the get And you know, I

874
00:40:01,946 --> 00:40:04,026
Speaker 3: always wanted to be in a career where I could

875
00:40:04,066 --> 00:40:06,386
Speaker 3: read the sports section first every morning, and that was

876
00:40:07,066 --> 00:40:09,906
Speaker 3: that was my job, better than the business section. Now

877
00:40:09,906 --> 00:40:12,706
Speaker 3: I read both. But so yeah, it's been great. It's

878
00:40:12,826 --> 00:40:14,746
Speaker 3: twenty two years. Got to spend the first four or

879
00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:18,386
Speaker 3: five working in all different parts of the league, international

880
00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:23,026
Speaker 3: to our stadium construction program, to revenue sharing, but always

881
00:40:23,026 --> 00:40:24,986
Speaker 3: with media as a part of that. And then got

882
00:40:25,026 --> 00:40:26,786
Speaker 3: asked in two thousand and five to come over and

883
00:40:26,786 --> 00:40:29,786
Speaker 3: work in the media business, help lead our deals and

884
00:40:29,866 --> 00:40:32,266
Speaker 3: our strategy, and then also incubate a bunch of different

885
00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:36,666
Speaker 3: digital businesses. So over that time and then now whatever

886
00:40:36,706 --> 00:40:39,826
Speaker 3: that is seventeen years later. Eighteen years later sort of

887
00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:43,186
Speaker 3: in the role get to still do and work on

888
00:40:43,306 --> 00:40:46,746
Speaker 3: things that are fun and enjoyable in a passion. You know,

889
00:40:46,826 --> 00:40:50,306
Speaker 3: if you what's saying, if you find something you're passionate about,

890
00:40:50,346 --> 00:40:52,946
Speaker 3: you never work another day in your life. So I'm

891
00:40:52,946 --> 00:40:54,786
Speaker 3: not sure that's exactly true. You know, we still work

892
00:40:54,826 --> 00:40:57,186
Speaker 3: pretty hard around here, but it is fun to work

893
00:40:57,186 --> 00:40:59,106
Speaker 3: on something you really love. So and you work with

894
00:40:59,146 --> 00:41:01,826
Speaker 3: great people and great people, you know, that's a fun

895
00:41:01,866 --> 00:41:03,746
Speaker 3: thing around here. And just as the job and the

896
00:41:03,826 --> 00:41:06,586
Speaker 3: roles of have grown both with in and across the

897
00:41:06,666 --> 00:41:08,786
Speaker 3: league and as well as you know with our partners,

898
00:41:08,826 --> 00:41:11,706
Speaker 3: just continuing to meet such great people and people that

899
00:41:11,786 --> 00:41:15,466
Speaker 3: push you and beat, people that challenge you, but also

900
00:41:15,546 --> 00:41:17,906
Speaker 3: create something, create something that is meaningful and has an

901
00:41:17,946 --> 00:41:20,346
Speaker 3: impact and you care about. It's really really fun.

902
00:41:20,546 --> 00:41:22,346
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, the GM of the Texans, was in my

903
00:41:22,386 --> 00:41:25,026
Speaker 1: gast two weeks ago. Drew Petsing, the offensive coordinator of

904
00:41:25,746 --> 00:41:30,226
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Guess Nick was working for I think Merrill Lynch.

905
00:41:31,226 --> 00:41:34,146
Speaker 1: Drew after was also he was working in finance and

906
00:41:34,386 --> 00:41:36,546
Speaker 1: something happened. He got an opportunity and he jumped at it.

907
00:41:36,586 --> 00:41:39,026
Speaker 1: And they said, we're sports people, we love it, and

908
00:41:39,066 --> 00:41:41,066
Speaker 1: we don't your leap. I mean, that had to be

909
00:41:41,106 --> 00:41:43,386
Speaker 1: a bold leap going from investment banking to saying, hey,

910
00:41:43,906 --> 00:41:46,706
Speaker 1: ask Jeeves, great the Internet, I'm gonna go work for

911
00:41:46,386 --> 00:41:48,466
Speaker 1: the shield. I mean, I can only imagine the courage

912
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:49,986
Speaker 1: it took to jump and do that, but the excitement

913
00:41:50,026 --> 00:41:50,426
Speaker 1: as well.

914
00:41:50,706 --> 00:41:53,426
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, it was it was fun. It was different,

915
00:41:53,466 --> 00:41:55,426
Speaker 3: and it was certainly a different track than many of

916
00:41:55,426 --> 00:41:58,866
Speaker 3: my peers were taking. But again, I think if you

917
00:41:58,906 --> 00:42:01,306
Speaker 3: stay with it and it's something you love and you

918
00:42:01,626 --> 00:42:04,146
Speaker 3: invest yourself in it, like, the rest sort of takes

919
00:42:04,186 --> 00:42:07,346
Speaker 3: care of itself. And so, you know, it's been a

920
00:42:07,346 --> 00:42:10,546
Speaker 3: good run. It's been really fun. I've been very very fortunate,

921
00:42:10,746 --> 00:42:13,186
Speaker 3: fortunate to work for great people, work with great people,

922
00:42:13,626 --> 00:42:15,826
Speaker 3: and fund that. Twenty two years in, it's still something

923
00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:19,186
Speaker 3: that you know, we're watching the you know, the games

924
00:42:19,226 --> 00:42:21,546
Speaker 3: over the weekend, and every game you're thinking about, Okay,

925
00:42:21,826 --> 00:42:23,906
Speaker 3: what's else I was on the schedule? Is that game

926
00:42:23,986 --> 00:42:26,346
Speaker 3: still should that game still be in that window or

927
00:42:26,346 --> 00:42:28,666
Speaker 3: that window? Or hey I saw this, Hey we can

928
00:42:28,706 --> 00:42:31,186
Speaker 3: do this better? Like and the team's awesome, you know,

929
00:42:31,226 --> 00:42:33,666
Speaker 3: the team, especially the broadcast team that I work with

930
00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:36,186
Speaker 3: most closely day to day. Now, Like those guys are

931
00:42:36,226 --> 00:42:38,786
Speaker 3: just every minute they're always looking, hey, what can we

932
00:42:38,826 --> 00:42:42,066
Speaker 3: do better? How can we make the experience of viewing better?

933
00:42:42,106 --> 00:42:43,786
Speaker 3: And so that's been a lot of fun.

934
00:42:43,626 --> 00:42:45,746
Speaker 1: A couple of rapid fire as we wrap this up,

935
00:42:45,786 --> 00:42:48,346
Speaker 1: and it's been awesome. Who do you hear from more

936
00:42:48,506 --> 00:42:51,306
Speaker 1: when it comes to complaints and winding the broadcast networks

937
00:42:51,426 --> 00:42:53,506
Speaker 1: or the owners really.

938
00:42:53,306 --> 00:42:55,426
Speaker 3: Neither okay, I would think like, why aren't.

939
00:42:55,186 --> 00:42:57,226
Speaker 1: We getting this get why are you how could you

940
00:42:57,306 --> 00:42:59,866
Speaker 1: not give us this primetime or the broadcasting How did

941
00:42:59,866 --> 00:43:01,586
Speaker 1: you give us this team in that game? When the

942
00:43:01,586 --> 00:43:03,266
Speaker 1: other guy, I feel like that has to be you're

943
00:43:03,306 --> 00:43:05,906
Speaker 1: the person they call to just complain and wind too.

944
00:43:06,226 --> 00:43:09,426
Speaker 3: No, oh, you know, look, I think first of all,

945
00:43:10,026 --> 00:43:13,746
Speaker 3: in Mike North does an incredible job on both sides.

946
00:43:14,226 --> 00:43:16,386
Speaker 3: On the scheduling side itself, which is really your question

947
00:43:16,466 --> 00:43:19,666
Speaker 3: is the course scheduling, managing and sort of setting There's

948
00:43:19,786 --> 00:43:22,426
Speaker 3: very few surprises people when they get their fund.

949
00:43:22,426 --> 00:43:23,946
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of conversations that lead to that

950
00:43:23,986 --> 00:43:24,906
Speaker 1: final schedule review.

951
00:43:24,986 --> 00:43:26,906
Speaker 3: And look, this year was another year. I mean most

952
00:43:26,986 --> 00:43:29,506
Speaker 3: years it's the case. We had five really happy partners

953
00:43:29,506 --> 00:43:33,506
Speaker 3: six with NFL Media and NFL Networks games. That was

954
00:43:33,546 --> 00:43:36,106
Speaker 3: it perfect for everybody? No, they probably wish maybe they

955
00:43:36,146 --> 00:43:38,866
Speaker 3: got one thing, but they were all super excited about

956
00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:41,266
Speaker 3: their schedules and proactively reached out, which they don't do,

957
00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:44,586
Speaker 3: and that's actually makes you feel good. Obviously, the games

958
00:43:44,586 --> 00:43:46,546
Speaker 3: need to play out like you think they do. And

959
00:43:46,546 --> 00:43:48,586
Speaker 3: then on the club and the ownership side, like again,

960
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:52,306
Speaker 3: we put so much work into it. It takes a village.

961
00:43:52,346 --> 00:43:54,186
Speaker 3: It's not just the media and the broadcasting. We put

962
00:43:54,226 --> 00:43:57,706
Speaker 3: Donna Ponte in and football, Hey, is this a challenge

963
00:43:57,746 --> 00:44:00,466
Speaker 3: to put a team on a road here, then back

964
00:44:00,466 --> 00:44:03,466
Speaker 3: at home, then road there. Like all those things we changed.

965
00:44:03,506 --> 00:44:08,226
Speaker 3: The ownerships have been incredibly flexible and continue to evolve

966
00:44:08,306 --> 00:44:11,346
Speaker 3: to give us more tools and more flexibility to Some

967
00:44:11,506 --> 00:44:13,586
Speaker 3: clubs have some things in their schedule that when they

968
00:44:13,626 --> 00:44:16,426
Speaker 3: finally see it, they don't love. Absolutely. It's never perfect

969
00:44:16,626 --> 00:44:19,386
Speaker 3: and we feel that we own it and we feel

970
00:44:19,466 --> 00:44:22,626
Speaker 3: terrible when when we hear that. But I think you know,

971
00:44:23,386 --> 00:44:26,226
Speaker 3: those hopefully are much more the exception than the rule.

972
00:44:26,226 --> 00:44:28,386
Speaker 3: They definitely exist, and there's definitely things that we learn

973
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:30,506
Speaker 3: from and we follow it away for next year and

974
00:44:30,586 --> 00:44:33,026
Speaker 3: say hey, and look, we've already learned, like this is

975
00:44:33,066 --> 00:44:35,906
Speaker 3: the first year of completely new media deals and TV

976
00:44:35,986 --> 00:44:38,426
Speaker 3: deals with the new format, you know, the away team

977
00:44:38,506 --> 00:44:42,226
Speaker 3: no longer what goes into what package, and that gave

978
00:44:42,306 --> 00:44:44,066
Speaker 3: us a lot of flexibility as we went into the year.

979
00:44:44,066 --> 00:44:46,986
Speaker 3: But we've already learned a lot going into that, and

980
00:44:47,066 --> 00:44:49,306
Speaker 3: we've learned about some things we may do a little

981
00:44:49,306 --> 00:44:52,346
Speaker 3: bit differently next time, already halfway through the year of

982
00:44:52,426 --> 00:44:54,546
Speaker 3: year one. And so that's sort of what makes the

983
00:44:54,626 --> 00:44:56,546
Speaker 3: job exciting is you sort of never have it all

984
00:44:56,586 --> 00:44:58,906
Speaker 3: figured out. There's always something more to think about. In Crack.

985
00:44:59,226 --> 00:45:01,426
Speaker 1: You're at all the NFL events, you broadcast a lot

986
00:45:01,466 --> 00:45:03,546
Speaker 1: of these, you guys are partners with them. Now, obviously

987
00:45:03,546 --> 00:45:05,986
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is the crude grad. It's everyone. It's

988
00:45:05,986 --> 00:45:08,266
Speaker 1: a one hundred and millions of people watching. I'm a

989
00:45:08,306 --> 00:45:11,146
Speaker 1: fan of Day three of the Draft, like that's my thing.

990
00:45:11,226 --> 00:45:14,226
Speaker 1: Other people love the combine, other people love kickoff week

991
00:45:14,226 --> 00:45:16,666
Speaker 1: and how we get that thing on? Hans Schroeder. What

992
00:45:16,746 --> 00:45:18,906
Speaker 1: is something that maybe isn't the headline, but something an

993
00:45:18,906 --> 00:45:21,266
Speaker 1: event on the NFL schedule that you love being a

994
00:45:21,266 --> 00:45:24,146
Speaker 1: part of or that you love seeing executed on television.

995
00:45:24,826 --> 00:45:27,866
Speaker 3: Well you hit on. I mean, I love the Draft

996
00:45:28,106 --> 00:45:31,026
Speaker 3: because I love college football, right, I love football at

997
00:45:31,026 --> 00:45:33,906
Speaker 3: all levels. You know, I love college football. I remember

998
00:45:33,946 --> 00:45:37,826
Speaker 3: watching aj Green play on like an ESPN high school

999
00:45:38,786 --> 00:45:41,106
Speaker 3: Labor Day weekend tournament when he was in high school

1000
00:45:41,146 --> 00:45:44,426
Speaker 3: in South Carolina. So like I love football at all levels,

1001
00:45:44,506 --> 00:45:46,866
Speaker 3: I love the Draft. I think the Draft is, you know,

1002
00:45:46,946 --> 00:45:50,426
Speaker 3: three days of just pure football mersion, and the coverage

1003
00:45:50,466 --> 00:45:53,066
Speaker 3: you guys give to me is exciting, and it's also

1004
00:45:53,386 --> 00:45:55,786
Speaker 3: it's exciting for all thirty two, like it's a unique

1005
00:45:55,826 --> 00:45:57,866
Speaker 3: thing and that all thirty two have reasons to be

1006
00:45:57,986 --> 00:46:00,546
Speaker 3: excited and cover. It. Doesn't mean the Super Bowl is

1007
00:46:00,586 --> 00:46:03,946
Speaker 3: not the pinnacle and amazing, right, But I look, I

1008
00:46:03,946 --> 00:46:06,426
Speaker 3: think there's some things that we have ahead of us.

1009
00:46:06,546 --> 00:46:08,266
Speaker 3: I think we can do more with the schedule. Lease,

1010
00:46:08,346 --> 00:46:10,906
Speaker 3: like everybody knows it, but really the schedule is such

1011
00:46:10,906 --> 00:46:12,626
Speaker 3: a fun point in time and sort of there's so

1012
00:46:12,706 --> 00:46:15,586
Speaker 3: much that drives people's lives, what road trips they're doing,

1013
00:46:16,026 --> 00:46:17,706
Speaker 3: you know, when their home games, when they're going to

1014
00:46:17,746 --> 00:46:20,306
Speaker 3: have the big tailgates and otherwise. I think there's more

1015
00:46:20,346 --> 00:46:22,386
Speaker 3: we can do to celebrate that moment and lift that

1016
00:46:22,506 --> 00:46:24,826
Speaker 3: up a little bit. I think that whole free agency

1017
00:46:24,866 --> 00:46:27,306
Speaker 3: period now and sort of there's more we can build

1018
00:46:27,346 --> 00:46:30,066
Speaker 3: there in that offseason. And then on the non NFL level,

1019
00:46:30,106 --> 00:46:31,786
Speaker 3: I think we're going to do some stuff on the

1020
00:46:31,786 --> 00:46:36,786
Speaker 3: flag side. I think really build something that establishes more

1021
00:46:36,786 --> 00:46:40,706
Speaker 3: of a sort of national championship type thing in the

1022
00:46:40,746 --> 00:46:43,546
Speaker 3: summer months that I think will be really cool and

1023
00:46:43,666 --> 00:46:46,826
Speaker 3: capture some of that excitement for flag that's out there,

1024
00:46:46,826 --> 00:46:50,586
Speaker 3: and that's building in a more meaningful way. But yeah, no,

1025
00:46:50,706 --> 00:46:54,026
Speaker 3: I love the heart of it. I love the draft.

1026
00:46:54,026 --> 00:46:56,666
Speaker 3: That's my personal favorite. So it's already we already do

1027
00:46:56,706 --> 00:46:58,066
Speaker 3: it a great job, and just how can we make

1028
00:46:58,106 --> 00:46:58,466
Speaker 3: it bigger?

1029
00:46:58,826 --> 00:47:00,826
Speaker 1: Last question? And I asked this to every guest. It's

1030
00:47:00,826 --> 00:47:03,706
Speaker 1: always the final question. And I asked if to everyone

1031
00:47:03,746 --> 00:47:07,946
Speaker 1: from McVeigh to Dan Patrick. Couple of weeks ago, you're

1032
00:47:07,946 --> 00:47:10,906
Speaker 1: in an elevator at the Combine. Young guy comes up,

1033
00:47:10,946 --> 00:47:13,466
Speaker 1: ill fitting suit, has a Manilla folder in his hand,

1034
00:47:13,626 --> 00:47:17,066
Speaker 1: and he's got his resume and you've got ten floors together,

1035
00:47:17,226 --> 00:47:19,746
Speaker 1: and he says, do you have just twenty seconds of advice?

1036
00:47:19,826 --> 00:47:21,506
Speaker 1: You have my dream job, what would you tell me

1037
00:47:21,546 --> 00:47:23,906
Speaker 1: to do? I'm a twenty two year old gal or guy,

1038
00:47:24,386 --> 00:47:25,946
Speaker 1: and I'd love to do what you do someday. What

1039
00:47:25,946 --> 00:47:28,786
Speaker 1: would be your advice to that person, I'd.

1040
00:47:28,586 --> 00:47:30,706
Speaker 3: Say, just keep at it and look at any and

1041
00:47:30,746 --> 00:47:33,306
Speaker 3: avity avenue to get into sports. I mean, sports is

1042
00:47:33,346 --> 00:47:36,666
Speaker 3: a community. Which is the great part is it's growing

1043
00:47:36,746 --> 00:47:38,986
Speaker 3: leaps and bounds. When I started, there was much more

1044
00:47:38,986 --> 00:47:43,546
Speaker 3: limited opportunities. Now between the extension of media and agencies

1045
00:47:43,666 --> 00:47:47,586
Speaker 3: and sponsorship and nil in college and otherwise, the sports

1046
00:47:48,466 --> 00:47:53,266
Speaker 3: marketplace in the sports business arena has just gotten so big.

1047
00:47:53,306 --> 00:47:55,066
Speaker 3: And if you're passionate you want to do it, there's

1048
00:47:55,066 --> 00:47:57,226
Speaker 3: a job out there, there's a job out there for you,

1049
00:47:57,626 --> 00:47:59,786
Speaker 3: and just stay at it and be persistent, you know.

1050
00:47:59,866 --> 00:48:02,826
Speaker 3: I I before I took the job of the Internet company,

1051
00:48:02,866 --> 00:48:05,186
Speaker 3: I came back in finance and I applied to the league.

1052
00:48:05,226 --> 00:48:08,546
Speaker 3: I applied to all all the clubs in all the

1053
00:48:08,666 --> 00:48:10,426
Speaker 3: NFL clubs in the league. I think I applied to

1054
00:48:10,426 --> 00:48:14,346
Speaker 3: the baseball a number of baseball teams the NBA and

1055
00:48:14,466 --> 00:48:16,986
Speaker 3: got rejected across all over every right, like it happened.

1056
00:48:17,306 --> 00:48:19,106
Speaker 3: D even get an injury or anything. It's just sort

1057
00:48:19,106 --> 00:48:22,346
Speaker 3: of a form letter back right, a different time and place,

1058
00:48:22,386 --> 00:48:26,026
Speaker 3: and so but keep persisting, look for your opportunities, keep

1059
00:48:26,226 --> 00:48:30,146
Speaker 3: developing your resume, developing your skill set, and stay at it.

1060
00:48:30,186 --> 00:48:32,546
Speaker 3: There's a role out there, there's an opportunity, you know,

1061
00:48:33,066 --> 00:48:35,386
Speaker 3: chase it. Just you know, if you like sports, getting

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Speaker 3: your foot in the door in sports, and then once

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Speaker 3: you're in sports, it's a lot easier to sort of

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Speaker 3: move within that, within that community. But stay at it

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Speaker 3: if you love it and you're passionate about it. Again,

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Speaker 3: if you keep at it, the rest will take care

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Speaker 3: of itself.

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Speaker 1: So it's awesome advice. Friday, three pm Eastern is the

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Speaker 1: actual game, but I imagine Amazon is going from like noon on.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're.

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Speaker 3: Thirty one to thirty start with the pre game into

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Speaker 3: it three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And is it true that it's not just on Amazon?

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Speaker 1: Someone told me that it's like I'm listening somewhere, that

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Speaker 1: you can watch it anywhere.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things we wanted to do, especially

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Speaker 3: with this new window, most of the games are principally

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Speaker 3: within Amazon Prime. This is available for free across Amazon

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Speaker 3: if you go to the website, got it, go to

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00:49:16,346 --> 00:49:17,906
Speaker 3: the app. You don't need to get all the way

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00:49:17,906 --> 00:49:20,466
Speaker 3: into Prime. You may need to register otherwise based on

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Speaker 3: how their app works, but on the website and otherwise

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00:49:22,586 --> 00:49:25,186
Speaker 3: it'll be free, it'll be streaming. There still be over

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Speaker 3: over the are in the home markets of the two

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00:49:27,266 --> 00:49:29,986
Speaker 3: teams too. Just that's really important to us and continues

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00:49:30,026 --> 00:49:33,546
Speaker 3: to be. But yeah, you've probably seen a lot of

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00:49:33,546 --> 00:49:37,026
Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones Paint in black already great great tune

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00:49:37,066 --> 00:49:38,946
Speaker 3: from back in the day, but fits right in. And

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00:49:39,426 --> 00:49:41,626
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's exciting, it's you know, that's

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Speaker 3: one of the fun things when you're here a while

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00:49:43,306 --> 00:49:45,826
Speaker 3: and you can do something new and be you know,

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00:49:45,866 --> 00:49:48,106
Speaker 3: build something new and again. It's taken a lot of

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00:49:48,106 --> 00:49:50,266
Speaker 3: different people from all across the league to do that.

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00:49:50,866 --> 00:49:52,346
Speaker 3: It's going to be fun, it's going to be exciting,

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00:49:52,346 --> 00:49:54,426
Speaker 3: and hopefully a lot of people are finding time amongst

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00:49:54,466 --> 00:49:57,866
Speaker 3: their busy, busy fridays to watch watch the game, get

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Speaker 3: some of the unique deals they're going to be part

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Speaker 3: of the game that Amazon will have for you, and

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Speaker 3: enjoy some more NFL football.

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Speaker 1: Start your week Thursday morning, Good morning football, and end

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Speaker 1: it on the final snap of Vikings Bears. I think

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a great plan for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, my wife will tell many of our friends

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00:50:13,666 --> 00:50:15,506
Speaker 3: that I have the best job in the world that

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00:50:15,546 --> 00:50:17,386
Speaker 3: I can literally tell her I have to watch football

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00:50:17,426 --> 00:50:19,946
Speaker 3: for my job. So I hear that a lot, but

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00:50:20,466 --> 00:50:23,386
Speaker 3: it's partially true. It does give me some cover for

1108
00:50:23,466 --> 00:50:25,906
Speaker 3: this weekend, although there's still time for dishes and other

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00:50:25,946 --> 00:50:28,946
Speaker 3: things on Thursday afternoon. So but anyway, so man, thank

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Speaker 3: you for having me. This is awesome. Have a great

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00:50:30,986 --> 00:50:32,226
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving dude.

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Speaker 1: So good. Hans Schroeder, NFL, This is an awesome conversation

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Speaker 1: and I love doing it in person.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for letting us in your office anytime. I'm man beautiful.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 1: The season with Peter Schrager Delivering Results presented by Uber Eats. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it is time to give our sponsors some love, and

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Speaker 1: each week I give a winner of the Delivering Results Award,

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Speaker 1: and this week I'm gonna go with Josh Allen. I

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Speaker 1: felt like there was a lot of doubt and a

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00:50:57,826 --> 00:51:01,106
Speaker 1: lot of I don't know, angst in the air, and

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00:51:01,146 --> 00:51:03,626
Speaker 1: I felt like Josh Allen going two seventy five through

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00:51:03,666 --> 00:51:06,346
Speaker 1: the air and three touchdowns on offense and finding his

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00:51:06,546 --> 00:51:09,506
Speaker 1: guys and just showing the Josh Allen of old deserves

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00:51:09,546 --> 00:51:12,666
Speaker 1: some recognition, game balls galore this week. You can give

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Speaker 1: them to a million people. But as far as delivering results,

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00:51:14,906 --> 00:51:17,626
Speaker 1: which quarterback needed a performance like that most? It was

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen that was delivering results. Relented by Uber Eats,

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Speaker 1: demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order. Now, all right, everybody,

1131
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Speaker 1: have an amazing Thanksgiving. I am very grateful for a

1132
00:51:31,266 --> 00:51:33,186
Speaker 1: lot of things. One of them is the growth of

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00:51:33,186 --> 00:51:36,546
Speaker 1: this show and the audience for your action. Really grateful

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00:51:36,546 --> 00:51:39,346
Speaker 1: that you guys listen. Grateful for you, Aaron, Grateful for

1135
00:51:39,386 --> 00:51:41,746
Speaker 1: you Jason. Grateful for the team that puts this thing together.

1136
00:51:41,746 --> 00:51:44,906
Speaker 1: It's a season with Peter Schreger. And I'm really grateful

1137
00:51:45,146 --> 00:51:48,266
Speaker 1: that after Thursdays Good Morning Football Show, I can go home.

1138
00:51:48,906 --> 00:51:51,706
Speaker 1: I could sit on the couch. I can start a

1139
00:51:51,706 --> 00:51:54,826
Speaker 1: little drinking drinky, I can have a little foodie foodie.

1140
00:51:54,866 --> 00:51:56,746
Speaker 1: I'll probably have a nap during one of the games.

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00:51:57,306 --> 00:51:59,706
Speaker 1: Wake up Friday, go to work, and then this is

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00:51:59,746 --> 00:52:02,426
Speaker 1: my big reveal. I'll be at that game. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: my son Mel, We're going to our first game together.

1144
00:52:04,586 --> 00:52:07,026
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Jets game. I have to

1145
00:52:07,146 --> 00:52:10,426
Speaker 1: have a lot of anxiety about traffic situations and parking.

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00:52:10,546 --> 00:52:13,226
Speaker 1: Hans didn't talk about this in the process, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of American mall. What's it called the Great

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00:52:15,746 --> 00:52:18,826
Speaker 1: American Arian Dream. I haven't been in a shopping mall.

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00:52:18,946 --> 00:52:20,986
Speaker 1: I'm such a city guy. Now I've been in a

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Speaker 1: shopping mall in ten years, and I'm fearful of parking

1151
00:52:23,986 --> 00:52:26,706
Speaker 1: in a shopping mall situation. I don't, Aaron, are you

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Speaker 1: following this parking situation out there that everyone anytime I

1153
00:52:29,506 --> 00:52:32,186
Speaker 1: tell anyone, I'm going, Oh the American dream mall though

1154
00:52:32,226 --> 00:52:34,266
Speaker 1: the parking. I said to Sean O'Hare, I'm like, I'm

1155
00:52:34,266 --> 00:52:36,386
Speaker 1: going to the game on Friday, super excited. And Shawn o'

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00:52:36,426 --> 00:52:40,666
Speaker 1: harre is like, did you consider the mall? Well?

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Speaker 2: I feel like once I moved to New York, I

1158
00:52:43,066 --> 00:52:45,546
Speaker 2: was done with the mall. Call myself out of both

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Speaker 2: malls and parking lots.

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Speaker 1: If you're not involved with malls or parking lots, nor

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00:52:49,666 --> 00:52:52,586
Speaker 1: am I yet. If there is a cheesecake factory within

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00:52:52,866 --> 00:52:55,106
Speaker 1: a stone's throw, I will be there. If there is

1163
00:52:55,146 --> 00:52:58,106
Speaker 1: a Sophora, my wife will find it. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: anti mall. I love anti Ann's I love the sweet Factory.

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00:53:02,146 --> 00:53:03,826
Speaker 1: I love all these sweet factories. Still a thing did

1166
00:53:03,826 --> 00:53:04,186
Speaker 1: you have that?

1167
00:53:04,546 --> 00:53:05,306
Speaker 2: I have never even heard?

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00:53:05,346 --> 00:53:08,386
Speaker 1: Have you heard a sweet factory? I feel candy pick'm place.

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00:53:09,346 --> 00:53:12,066
Speaker 1: I'm biased to the Freehold basically Mall and Freehold, New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, had an amazing arcade called time

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00:53:15,426 --> 00:53:19,186
Speaker 1: Out If you've ever been fantastic, NBA jam and the

1172
00:53:19,226 --> 00:53:23,346
Speaker 1: whole thing, Mortal Kombat, all that stuff. Long story short,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking my son. I'm hoping it's an amazing experience

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00:53:27,106 --> 00:53:28,906
Speaker 1: and if it's not, trust Mail will be the first

1175
00:53:28,906 --> 00:53:31,506
Speaker 1: one to tell you. On Tuesday one record the podcast.

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00:53:32,386 --> 00:53:34,266
Speaker 1: My wife is coming as well. I just don't want

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Speaker 1: to get in a fight like that's all it is,

1178
00:53:35,906 --> 00:53:38,346
Speaker 1: so like hopefully the traffic's okay and hopefully not mean

1179
00:53:38,346 --> 00:53:39,946
Speaker 1: a fight with like the fans like, no, I don't,

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00:53:40,146 --> 00:53:42,626
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding any far. There will be no parking

1181
00:53:42,906 --> 00:53:47,066
Speaker 1: I'm angry. No, there'll be no parking lot. I'm talking

1182
00:53:47,066 --> 00:53:49,786
Speaker 1: about one of those passive aggressive fights with my wife

1183
00:53:49,826 --> 00:53:51,626
Speaker 1: where we're driving in and we're in an hour it's

1184
00:53:51,626 --> 00:53:53,706
Speaker 1: worth of traffic and people are honking and she's just

1185
00:53:53,786 --> 00:53:55,546
Speaker 1: quiet and saying what we couldn't have done this from

1186
00:53:55,546 --> 00:53:57,226
Speaker 1: the couch. I get that, I know. I already am

1187
00:53:57,226 --> 00:54:02,226
Speaker 1: anticipated until next week. This is awesome. Aaron Jason, everyone

1188
00:54:02,226 --> 00:54:04,426
Speaker 1: back on the West Coast, thanks for listening, and guys,

1189
00:54:04,426 --> 00:54:23,626
Speaker 1: have a good Thanksgiving. The Season with Peter Schrager is

1190
00:54:23,666 --> 00:54:27,306
Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.