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Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant flying by the seat of our pants, right, Chuckers.
Speaker 1: Speaking of flying, you're like, let's go, let's go. I
Speaker 1: gotta go to New York. Yeah, it's your birthday tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It is happy birthday. This will be after the fact,
Speaker 1: of course. I can't believe you're bringing this up. So
Speaker 1: you got a little birthday trip plan. That's very nice.
Speaker 1: You mistake me to New York. Nothing like a weekend
Speaker 1: in New York that they're celebrating anything. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: about it. Cool, I'm giddy. What you should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we were just in New York. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: quite the same. You didn't come with did she? No? No, no, Um,
Speaker 1: we're staying at a friend's place. Fortunately. Um, we have
Speaker 1: some friends in Brooklyn. Well, should you say his name? Adams? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will Adam and Serena's now, Oh, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of info. Might as well give out their address, so
Speaker 1: security number, that kind of thing, um chuck, which probably
Speaker 1: gets started right. Yeah, let's do it. You enjoy a
Speaker 1: good sweat that has been determined. You know, you know
Speaker 1: about sweating. Actually I hate a good I hate a
Speaker 1: good sweat. Do you plagues me? I wouldn't call it plague.
Speaker 1: I think you have it under control. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm in the steam room, I love a good
Speaker 1: sweat or the sauna. Yes, that's when you're supposed to sweat.
Speaker 1: I like it too. I don't like it. I don't
Speaker 1: like it either. I'm totally with you. Like this summer
Speaker 1: has been particularly hot here in Atlanta, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you noticed, And like I'm at this point. There's
Speaker 1: this boiling point I guess that I've been hovering around
Speaker 1: for like the last four weeks, where like if I
Speaker 1: think about it, I can make sweat just like burst
Speaker 1: out from under my my um my pecks. It's so awful,
Speaker 1: like all over my stomach. There's like a sweat trail,
Speaker 1: a horizontal one that I constantly have getting like skin
Speaker 1: tags probably and then if you get the nerves, you
Speaker 1: get both kinds of sweat, which we'll talk about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's two different kinds of sweat glands. You want
Speaker 1: to just talk about sweating first and then go into this.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do that, Chuck. There's you know, the average
Speaker 1: person has like four million sweat glands all over their body.
Speaker 1: You have like eight by that, right, and they're they're
Speaker 1: divided into two types, acrine and porcine, clothes, acorne and
Speaker 1: apocrine yea ecrinee krone and apricrine. You say, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't say that. So the the the are both
Speaker 1: sweat glands. And you would think that you'd have, you know,
Speaker 1: like they'd all provide one function. They don't. You would
Speaker 1: be wrong, that's right. So ekrone sweat glands I think
Speaker 1: are more predominant. I think there's more of them. They
Speaker 1: cool you down, Yes, that's there. That's what they're charged
Speaker 1: with this. They don't cool me down or else. Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it'd be like really really hot.
Speaker 1: You would be dead. Your thermostat is set high and
Speaker 1: it's your hypothalamus, by the way, that controls your body temperature, right,
Speaker 1: I mean gets messages say from like your skin that
Speaker 1: things are hot, and your hypothalamus is like, oh well,
Speaker 1: I better activate the ekron, sweat glands, and humidity. I
Speaker 1: reckon too, because that's what kills me. Well, humidity kills
Speaker 1: you because it keeps you from sweating, not me, man, No,
Speaker 1: it does. It kills you. It keeps you from cooling off.
Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, so so it's like gets backed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it can be like sixty degrees in humid and
Speaker 1: I'll sweat. The worst is when you get out of
Speaker 1: a shower and you start sweating immediately, Like you go
Speaker 1: to the gym and the shower didn't take Yeah, right, man,
Speaker 1: I think that's a Seinfeld reference to actually is it? Yeah, George,
Speaker 1: you got a shower that didn't take. Yeah, Okay, that
Speaker 1: that rings a bell. So I'll take an ice cold
Speaker 1: shower after the gym and it's still yeah, just sweat. Well,
Speaker 1: it takes a little while for your hypothalamus to be like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's cool down. Yeah right, so, um, your hypothalamus if
Speaker 1: it detects that your body temperature is getting too high,
Speaker 1: it needs to cool down it. Um. It sends a
Speaker 1: message to your ekrone sweat glands that says, start sweating, boys,
Speaker 1: And it's a different type of sweat that you're sweating then, Um,
Speaker 1: the stuff that comes out of the apricrine glands, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's mostly salty saltwater basically, or water and salts but
Speaker 1: mixed together, you sal and electrolytes. You've seen Idiocracy I have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't like it, he said, No. I thought it
Speaker 1: was good to a point, but the one joke premise
Speaker 1: movie kind of got stale for me. I liked it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, but we did manage to work a
Speaker 1: movie into a sweat podcast. The other kind, chuck is aprocrine, yes,
Speaker 1: and that is usually in the well. Is it usually
Speaker 1: in the ace, the axila and breast just period or
Speaker 1: with this condition, that's where it's most heavily concentrated period, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And the axcel is under the armpit. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: your armpit, Yeah, your xcel A. It's not under the armpit.
Speaker 1: There's nothing under the armpit now, it's just dead space there,
Speaker 1: that's right. Um, And I remember when we talked about
Speaker 1: deodor versus any parts print classic s Y s K episode,
Speaker 1: But that's a long time ago. Yeah, it was. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about sweat then too. An apacrine sweat glands
Speaker 1: produced the kind of sweat that makes you stink, right, right,
Speaker 1: So if it's just salt and water coming out of
Speaker 1: your ecrone sweat glands, that's not gonna smell. Sweaty palms
Speaker 1: are not gonna stink. No, they don't. You know that
Speaker 1: there's a I mean there's over I think hyper hydrosis period.
Speaker 1: But then some people get it so bad in their hands,
Speaker 1: you know, they have surgery. Yeah, well that's as that's
Speaker 1: as far as we've ever progressed with um, the treatment
Speaker 1: of sweating of any kind of sweat problems, like destroying
Speaker 1: a sweat gland. We're moving them and rid of them
Speaker 1: all together, or yeah, going in with like a laser
Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't get the palms, it's just it's
Speaker 1: my head and face, which is an awesome place to sweat. Well,
Speaker 1: your palms are very hairy. I imagine if they weren't,
Speaker 1: they would, uh, they would, they would be far more,
Speaker 1: far sweatier. Okay. Um, So with the apricrine sweat glands,
Speaker 1: you're sweating out water. That's the vehicle that's actually moving
Speaker 1: the stuff like fats um, the waste by products of metabolism.
Speaker 1: Just basically it's a way to evacuate stuff from your
Speaker 1: cells outside of it's a disposal system. Yeah, it sounds gross.
Speaker 1: So when you say fats and wastes right well, coming
Speaker 1: through your skin, yes, And those don't stink in and
Speaker 1: of themselves. It's the bacteria on your skin, the local flora,
Speaker 1: you know, the local fauna um that eats those fats
Speaker 1: and then creates the stink as as excrement. So you
Speaker 1: stink because of bacteria excrement. That's what it is. So
Speaker 1: you've got both of these, and both of them are
Speaker 1: capable of condition a very very strange condition called chrome hydrosis.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this, and I would I thought
Speaker 1: I knew everything about sweating. And the reason I didn't
Speaker 1: know anything about it is because it is really, really
Speaker 1: really rare, Like this is the alien hand syndrome of
Speaker 1: bodily fluids, I would say, yeah, of sweating at least,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird bodily fluids going on. Syndromes. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is when drum roll, although you know the title
Speaker 1: is when your sweat is colored and I thought I
Speaker 1: had it bad, but sweating green. That's really what it is.
Speaker 1: This um, this condition, chromo hydrosis is um painless. It
Speaker 1: doesn't lead to any other conditions. It's totally benign. It's
Speaker 1: strictly embarrassing. It's it's debilitating, I imagine it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't wear certain clothes. You certainly can't wear white
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, like you have two large
Speaker 1: circles where your nipples are, because that's one place where especially, uh,
Speaker 1: the apocrine version takes places very typically under the armpit
Speaker 1: and at the breast right. And and one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why you can remember that apocrine sweat glands are
Speaker 1: around your nipples because they are eventually converted into um
Speaker 1: cells that deliver milk when you're when you're lactating, well,
Speaker 1: not you, but you know I told you a friend
Speaker 1: that lactated a guy. That's right, you did, so apocrine
Speaker 1: can turn into lactating cells. That's why they're around the nipple, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: And aprocrine. If you have this form of chrome chrome hydrosis,
Speaker 1: you will sweat yellow, green, blue, black, or brown. Yes.
Speaker 1: And why specifically because the culprit here is something called
Speaker 1: LiPo fu skin. I don't know if it's lip a
Speaker 1: few skin or lip a few skin. It's like lipid
Speaker 1: like fat. It's a it's a type of that that's
Speaker 1: been oxidized and yeah, and there you have it. I
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty simple, like yeah, mystery salt. So Um,
Speaker 1: if you come to your physician and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: why are my nipples orange producing orange sweat? Or blue
Speaker 1: or green or yellow? Um, he's going to say I
Speaker 1: have a pretty strong idea that it's apicrine chromeohydrosis. I
Speaker 1: would say right away. That would be I saw the
Speaker 1: orange lady. Did you see her? The I saw a
Speaker 1: power point someone, Uh, what's she? A nurse? She wouldn't
Speaker 1: know orange. So this is such a rare condition. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we said that whoever you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It was probably the first case ever documented, and that
Speaker 1: was like two thousand eight, maybe because it was a
Speaker 1: power point that some I guess physician had done and
Speaker 1: it showed, you know, her face was blacked out, but
Speaker 1: it showed pictures of like her stained brazier and T
Speaker 1: shirts and it was just like, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 1: I feel awful enough as a sweater, right, I mean
Speaker 1: you're a sweater plus color? Yeah. Basically just fascinates people.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't fault somebody in. They're like, why
Speaker 1: is what's going on. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure that happens a lot. Like all you do is
Speaker 1: explain away, like, oh, I have this weird condition where
Speaker 1: I sweat orange. Well, apparently with um. This nurse that
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I think she was like twenty six or
Speaker 1: something like that, she spent five months wondering what the
Speaker 1: heck was going on before she went and sought treatment.
Speaker 1: She had no idea. And I can't imagine sweating something
Speaker 1: right away and waiting like five months before finally going
Speaker 1: to a doctor for red sweat. Like I'm one of
Speaker 1: those guys who will like put off going to the
Speaker 1: doctor forever, you know, but red sweat would get me
Speaker 1: in there. Have you seen the Gatorade commercial for people
Speaker 1: sweat colors. I'm sure that's not what they were. They
Speaker 1: weren't like they should have had a tag at the end,
Speaker 1: like not chrome. Yeah exactly. Did not have been like
Speaker 1: the five people in the world to have this, so
Speaker 1: um chuck. We were saying, like, if you come in
Speaker 1: and your docter sees that you have like blue sweat
Speaker 1: coming out of your nipples, they're gonna think it's apocrine chromhydrosis.
Speaker 1: You can prove definitively that it is by um holding
Speaker 1: a black light up to the sweat because the the
Speaker 1: LiPo fuskins phosphores what's called the wood the woods lamp.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that that's called a black light because
Speaker 1: you know you have a basement and I when to
Speaker 1: Spencer guests, right, exactly do you have any woods lamps? Yeah? Exactly. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's apricrine chrome hydrosies. Akron chrome hydrosis is also
Speaker 1: equally well explained. It's always a foreign object like a
Speaker 1: die or something that person is ingested that somehow gets
Speaker 1: into the ecrine sweat clands and then is is um
Speaker 1: produced because the one common thread between these two is
Speaker 1: that the pigment is produced in the sweat plant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's important because if you're a min or a copper miner,
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get a mineral mix with the sweat once
Speaker 1: it leaves the skin, and it'll turn it blue blue
Speaker 1: for copper. Yeah. Um. But which is not to be
Speaker 1: confused with the blue man who who had he took
Speaker 1: too much some kind of copper colloidal silver, that's what
Speaker 1: it was. The senator or something or a congressman was
Speaker 1: really one of the guys turned silver. He Oh, this
Speaker 1: guy was blue. He looked like a blue sand clause. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from too much chloidal silver. So yes, if you have
Speaker 1: a pseudo chromydros, it's it means that you're sweating a
Speaker 1: normal color or colorless sweat, but it's reacting with something
Speaker 1: on your skin to produce and they say, get out
Speaker 1: of the copper mine and we'll stop eventually, stop rubbing,
Speaker 1: you know, pigment on yourself. Um. But with ekron chrome hydrosis, UM,
Speaker 1: you're you're producing pigmented sweat and then sweating pigmented sweat.
Speaker 1: But it's it's not from lip a few skins, it's
Speaker 1: from something else. And that nurse that I was talking
Speaker 1: about that weighted five years uh, and I think this
Speaker 1: is in the mid nineties, in the late nineties. Um,
Speaker 1: she's sweat red and her um physicians took some samples
Speaker 1: of you know, her regular sweat and you know, compared
Speaker 1: it to the substance they found on her clothes and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've you've got chromidrosis. And we think it's akron And
Speaker 1: well it would have to be because it wasn't yellow, green, blue, black,
Speaker 1: or brown. Right. Yeah, But we know so little about
Speaker 1: this that if somebody's start if somebody presented with a
Speaker 1: case of red apicrine um chromidrosis, they'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well there's this is new, right, you know, because they
Speaker 1: don't understand the mechanism behind either of them. They understand
Speaker 1: what's going on, or they understand how it's happening. They
Speaker 1: don't understand what's going on. They have no idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think this, like alien hand, is one of
Speaker 1: those where they might be able to find out, but
Speaker 1: it's so rare. There's it's not like a lot of
Speaker 1: funding goes into this for research, so they just treat it,
Speaker 1: you know. Speaking of alien hand um, I found out
Speaker 1: about this thing. I wrote a blog on it recently
Speaker 1: about mirror dystonia, and it was like mirror neurons and
Speaker 1: alien hand mixed together. Right, So, like if you have this,
Speaker 1: your brain isn't producing proteins. This one specific protein that
Speaker 1: basically acts as like the switch like when you go
Speaker 1: to pick pick this up with my right hand, right,
Speaker 1: so both of your both sides of your brain get
Speaker 1: the signal. But there's this protein that switches as like okay, right,
Speaker 1: right hand. So this protein isn't strong enough and people
Speaker 1: with mirror estonia so they go like this, really pick
Speaker 1: up something with both hands, both hands, yes, or both,
Speaker 1: Like if they go to take a step with their
Speaker 1: right foot, they do with their left foot to the
Speaker 1: walking is very difficult to jump. Yeah, wow, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: What to do a full podcast on that? Maybe there
Speaker 1: is not enough on it? All right, Well that was
Speaker 1: it then, So um akron chrome hydrosis that nurse I
Speaker 1: was talking about. She was eating some sort of and
Speaker 1: I could never find out. I wonder why I couldn't
Speaker 1: thought it was like like a boy. I can't say.
Speaker 1: It was like a keebler devil's food cake. It had
Speaker 1: it was tomato based and had pepperik and it was
Speaker 1: a prepared food that she ate as a snack constantly.
Speaker 1: So the red tomato paste and the paprika, we're coloring
Speaker 1: her sweat. And that's where science is baffled. They have
Speaker 1: no idea how something you can get into your sweat glands.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. They also don't know why
Speaker 1: some people overproduced lip of few skins or their fats
Speaker 1: become overly oxidized until they become lip of few skins. Well,
Speaker 1: ekron is the one that you want because the treatment
Speaker 1: for that is to identify the culprit of the foreign
Speaker 1: food or not foreign, but that's whatever the food that's
Speaker 1: discoloring your sweat and discontinuing that food like stuff. The
Speaker 1: lady could have been like, you know, hey, um, to
Speaker 1: heck with it. I'm gonna keep eating this. It's like guessing,
Speaker 1: so chuck if you I guess if you're stuck with
Speaker 1: epicrine chromydrosis, right, or you love your tomato paste peprika
Speaker 1: flavored whate prepared food product. Right. Um, that's that's my
Speaker 1: novelty throwing disc Remember that on the Simpsons? Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: they couldn't call it it for his Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't think we can't either, Sure we can. Um, if
Speaker 1: if you like it so much that you want to
Speaker 1: seek treatment, what what what are some of your treatment options? Well,
Speaker 1: there's this substance called cap cap sasan, which is the
Speaker 1: key ingredient to pepper spray. And it's a and bare
Speaker 1: spray and it is from red pepper. It's a distrived
Speaker 1: from red pepper itself, isn't it? Yeah, like red pepper
Speaker 1: flakes pretty much. And it will burn you, I guess
Speaker 1: if you spray it in your face. But apparently as
Speaker 1: a cream it can help treat, uh, the Aprican version. Right,
Speaker 1: And we should have said earlier at crane sweat glands
Speaker 1: are triggered by changes in body temperature since by the
Speaker 1: hypothalamus um apocrine sweat glands are triggered by emotion. Well
Speaker 1: that's why I talked about the nerves, right. Yeah. So, um,
Speaker 1: there's this neurotransmitter called substance P that apparently is involved
Speaker 1: with UM the activation of your apicrine sweat clans. Right,
Speaker 1: So with h with cap sasan for some reason, it
Speaker 1: blocks the reuptake of substance P, which makes you sweat less. Yes,
Speaker 1: see mind working concert and I think most people that
Speaker 1: sweat more than usual working concert because like you get
Speaker 1: hot and you're like, oh crap, Like if you're headed
Speaker 1: to I mean, if if you're not doing anything important,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But if you're going somewhere and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, now I'm sweating, and then the other ones
Speaker 1: kick in, it even works. Yeah. That used to happen
Speaker 1: to me in college, Like I couldn't sit towards the
Speaker 1: front of the class because there's self conscious and I'd
Speaker 1: still get my scalpels start to tingle a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, is that sweat or their bugs
Speaker 1: jumping off my head? And it just hit this vicious psycle.
Speaker 1: Are you sure that was going on? I'm pretty college
Speaker 1: bugs jumping off your head? Okay, it could have all
Speaker 1: been some sort of dream. Uh. I Also, it's funny,
Speaker 1: he said tingling, because I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 1: But I did see one account that said it's sometimes
Speaker 1: associated with an aura like a warmth or prickling sensation.
Speaker 1: What the this condition? Oh? Really? Yeah? Huh, And that
Speaker 1: it happens more often in African Americans and that the
Speaker 1: youngest age they found it in was eleven year old,
Speaker 1: so in apocrine or ecrin both, just the whole condition period.
Speaker 1: I think I wonder if like these additional things, like
Speaker 1: you can sense them leaving your skin maybe sweat or
Speaker 1: this standard sweat. And I don't know if associated means
Speaker 1: it was like one of the cases, or if everyone
Speaker 1: across the board said it was kind of hazy. And
Speaker 1: then we also talked about um Removing sweat glands is
Speaker 1: one treatment option for hyper hydrosis and chromydrosis. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: boch alenum, yeah, botox or that be fair mile block
Speaker 1: is well, um, it's it affects it's a toxin, right,
Speaker 1: and it affects the narrow transmitters that are involved in
Speaker 1: sweating as well. Oh. The other the other one too,
Speaker 1: which is a terrible treatment, is to express the glands
Speaker 1: because it lasts a couple of days and like basically
Speaker 1: sweat it out. But then you have to do that
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Or you could just go
Speaker 1: to the sauna a lot. Yeah, I imagine that would help,
Speaker 1: and where maybe like a sign around your neck that says, yes,
Speaker 1: I know I'm sweating blue right. Um was stupid. Have
Speaker 1: you ever had to express your dog's anal glands? No?
Speaker 1: I haven't. I Um someone roughly told me I don't
Speaker 1: remember who, years ago, and I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. They're like, well, then you have to take
Speaker 1: your dog to a groomer. I was like, no, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jerry ever Now have you ever smelled it anyone? Yes?
Speaker 1: It is the most distinct awful smell on the planet.
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse. And it's exactly like when you smell it,
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that's anal gland. Yeah, well that's why
Speaker 1: they rubbed their their bottoms. They're expressing their own anal glass.
Speaker 1: My dogs are they self expressed. But you smell it
Speaker 1: when it happens, and then you see them cleaning themselves
Speaker 1: and you're just like, all right, remember no licks for
Speaker 1: like a week on me? Yeah, I don't know. That's sorry,
Speaker 1: I got sidetracked. So yeah, I guess that's it, right,
Speaker 1: You got anything else to do? There's so much I
Speaker 1: don't on this one. There's so much sweating stuff. I
Speaker 1: personally can tell you quite a bit about sweating, sweat, glands, zits,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I spent like a couple of months
Speaker 1: is writing about this stuff for a while. Um, and
Speaker 1: this article came out of it. I wonder if I
Speaker 1: never got zits because I sweat so much. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that helps keep my pores clean or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It also has to do with oil on
Speaker 1: the skin, and I think you're like my family, none
Speaker 1: of us really got it, So I think it's hereditary
Speaker 1: to a certain degree too, right, Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: it also has to do with the degree of how
Speaker 1: sensitive your skin is. Right away, if you want to
Speaker 1: learn about that kind of stuff and sweating and uh,
Speaker 1: read my article on chrome e. Grosses. Type sweat into
Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot Com and
Speaker 1: they'll bring up a ton of stuff. We should do
Speaker 1: one on acne. Okay, that's that's a big one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bet some of our pubescent listeners would appreciate that one.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Yeah? All right? Well I said, Am
Speaker 1: I right? So that means it's time for a listener now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna This is someone who's correcting us, and I'm
Speaker 1: just not quite sure how right she is, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna discuss it. Hey, guys, I'm a fairly new fan
Speaker 1: of your show, but I really enjoy every episode. I'm
Speaker 1: dying to go back and listen to the older ones,
Speaker 1: but there are so many that it's taking some time.
Speaker 1: That's true. I just listened to the recent one about
Speaker 1: America's version Murderer. It was great at the beginning, though
Speaker 1: I think you may have confused or lumped together Puritans
Speaker 1: and Pilgrims. Pilgrims that came to Plymouth rock in were
Speaker 1: actually separatist because they wanted to completely breakaway in the
Speaker 1: Church of England, whereas the large group that settled in
Speaker 1: Massachusetts like ten years later it was Puritans they wanted
Speaker 1: to purify, reform the Church of England, not break away.
Speaker 1: The Puritans and Separatists had some different philosophies and beliefs,
Speaker 1: so I think it's important to make that distinction. I
Speaker 1: am a history nerd, so I think those details are cool.
Speaker 1: Please let me know if I misheard or if I
Speaker 1: don't have my facts straight. Thank you, Rachel. I am
Speaker 1: a history nerd too, Yes, And I don't know the
Speaker 1: answer to that one. I looked it up and I
Speaker 1: got a little confused, to be honest, because it was
Speaker 1: a little bit like that rectangle or square thing like
Speaker 1: I think some of the separatists where some of the
Speaker 1: Puritans were separatists but not necessarily the other way around
Speaker 1: or something, or pilgrim I don't know. I got confused. Oh,
Speaker 1: so you're saying some of the Pilgrims were separatists, but
Speaker 1: not all separatists were Pilgrims. One of those kind of things. So,
Speaker 1: but I mean I could see it. That explains why
Speaker 1: there is the word separatists, say in the word Puritans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure described the same group. I think I
Speaker 1: would argue though, that, um, it matters so little at
Speaker 1: this point that we Okay, lump them together. She's saying that.
Speaker 1: I think she's saying that there were no Puritan pilgrims. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll either find out someone will set
Speaker 1: a straight that really knows it, or we will just say, Rachel,
Speaker 1: thank you for the correction. Yeah. Either way, I'm gonna go. Look, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't let this suppress. Let me know, even if
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter any longer, I still need to know.
Speaker 1: And it's not like I didn't care. I did, look,
Speaker 1: but it's we're busy now. I didn't have quite enough
Speaker 1: time to fully researcher. Well, uh, okay, if you have
Speaker 1: an amazing historical fact that's been lost to the age
Speaker 1: of the time that you want to tell us about,
Speaker 1: We're very interested in that kind of stuff, right right, Uh,
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