WEBVTT - Can you sweat colors? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.319 from House Stuff Works dot com? Hey, you welcome to 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.520 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always is 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:24.000 Charles W. Chuck Bryant flying by the seat of our pants, right, Chuckers. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.520 Speaking of flying, you're like, let's go, let's go. I 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.160 gotta go to New York. Yeah, it's your birthday tomorrow. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.800 It is happy birthday. This will be after the fact, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.839 of course. I can't believe you're bringing this up. So 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.600 you got a little birthday trip plan. That's very nice. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.840 You mistake me to New York. Nothing like a weekend 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.839 in New York that they're celebrating anything. I'm very excited 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.440 about it. Cool, I'm giddy. What you should be. Yeah, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.600 and we were just in New York. But it wasn't 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.440 quite the same. You didn't come with did she? No? No, no, Um, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.240 we're staying at a friend's place. Fortunately. Um, we have 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:04.679 some friends in Brooklyn. Well, should you say his name? Adams? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.479 I will Adam and Serena's now, Oh, it's a lot 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.040 of info. Might as well give out their address, so 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.839 security number, that kind of thing, um chuck, which probably 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.760 gets started right. Yeah, let's do it. You enjoy a 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.720 good sweat that has been determined. You know, you know 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.680 about sweating. Actually I hate a good I hate a 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.720 good sweat. Do you plagues me? I wouldn't call it plague. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.920 I think you have it under control. Yeah, I mean, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.200 if I'm in the steam room, I love a good 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.000 sweat or the sauna. Yes, that's when you're supposed to sweat. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.479 I like it too. I don't like it. I don't 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.399 like it either. I'm totally with you. Like this summer 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.000 has been particularly hot here in Atlanta, I don't know 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.840 if you noticed, And like I'm at this point. There's 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:51.000 this boiling point I guess that I've been hovering around 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.200 for like the last four weeks, where like if I 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.560 think about it, I can make sweat just like burst 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.880 out from under my my um my pecks. It's so awful, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.760 like all over my stomach. There's like a sweat trail, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.320 a horizontal one that I constantly have getting like skin 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.320 tags probably and then if you get the nerves, you 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.959 get both kinds of sweat, which we'll talk about. Yeah, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.880 because there's two different kinds of sweat glands. You want 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.080 to just talk about sweating first and then go into this. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.000 Let's let's do that, Chuck. There's you know, the average 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.680 person has like four million sweat glands all over their body. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.280 You have like eight by that, right, and they're they're 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:35.080 divided into two types, acrine and porcine, clothes, acorne and 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:44.000 apocrine yea ecrinee krone and apricrine. You say, you know, yeah, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.399 I don't say that. So the the the are both 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.959 sweat glands. And you would think that you'd have, you know, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.160 like they'd all provide one function. They don't. You would 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.160 be wrong, that's right. So ekrone sweat glands I think 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.160 are more predominant. I think there's more of them. They 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.360 cool you down, Yes, that's there. That's what they're charged 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.880 with this. They don't cool me down or else. Actually, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.880 I don't know. Maybe it'd be like really really hot. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.239 You would be dead. Your thermostat is set high and 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.840 it's your hypothalamus, by the way, that controls your body temperature, right, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.919 I mean gets messages say from like your skin that 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.000 things are hot, and your hypothalamus is like, oh well, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.720 I better activate the ekron, sweat glands, and humidity. I 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.160 reckon too, because that's what kills me. Well, humidity kills 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.040 you because it keeps you from sweating, not me, man, No, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.160 it does. It kills you. It keeps you from cooling off. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:42.000 I should say, yeah, so so it's like gets backed up. Yeah, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.240 but it can be like sixty degrees in humid and 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.600 I'll sweat. The worst is when you get out of 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.000 a shower and you start sweating immediately, Like you go 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.000 to the gym and the shower didn't take Yeah, right, man, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.880 I think that's a Seinfeld reference to actually is it? Yeah, George, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.400 you got a shower that didn't take. Yeah, Okay, that 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.600 that rings a bell. So I'll take an ice cold 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.760 shower after the gym and it's still yeah, just sweat. Well, 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.400 it takes a little while for your hypothalamus to be like, okay, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.320 it's cool down. Yeah right, so, um, your hypothalamus if 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.800 it detects that your body temperature is getting too high, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.000 it needs to cool down it. Um. It sends a 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.880 message to your ekrone sweat glands that says, start sweating, boys, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.400 And it's a different type of sweat that you're sweating then, Um, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.039 the stuff that comes out of the apricrine glands, right, Yeah, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.480 it's mostly salty saltwater basically, or water and salts but 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:38.880 mixed together, you sal and electrolytes. You've seen Idiocracy I have. Yeah, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.840 you didn't like it, he said, No. I thought it 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.440 was good to a point, but the one joke premise 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.920 movie kind of got stale for me. I liked it, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.280 but yeah, okay, but we did manage to work a 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:55.039 movie into a sweat podcast. The other kind, chuck is aprocrine, yes, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.560 and that is usually in the well. Is it usually 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.400 in the ace, the axila and breast just period or 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.279 with this condition, that's where it's most heavily concentrated period, yes, okay. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.960 And the axcel is under the armpit. Yes, that is 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.359 your armpit, Yeah, your xcel A. It's not under the armpit. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.680 There's nothing under the armpit now, it's just dead space there, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.839 that's right. Um, And I remember when we talked about 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.719 deodor versus any parts print classic s Y s K episode, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.680 But that's a long time ago. Yeah, it was. Well, 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.960 we talked about sweat then too. An apacrine sweat glands 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.480 produced the kind of sweat that makes you stink, right, right, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.080 So if it's just salt and water coming out of 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.120 your ecrone sweat glands, that's not gonna smell. Sweaty palms 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.560 are not gonna stink. No, they don't. You know that 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.520 there's a I mean there's over I think hyper hydrosis period. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.080 But then some people get it so bad in their hands, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.080 you know, they have surgery. Yeah, well that's as that's 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.080 as far as we've ever progressed with um, the treatment 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.919 of sweating of any kind of sweat problems, like destroying 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.800 a sweat gland. We're moving them and rid of them 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.119 all together, or yeah, going in with like a laser 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.600 like yeah, I don't get the palms, it's just it's 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.640 my head and face, which is an awesome place to sweat. Well, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.960 your palms are very hairy. I imagine if they weren't, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.960 they would, uh, they would, they would be far more, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:21.960 far sweatier. Okay. Um, So with the apricrine sweat glands, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.880 you're sweating out water. That's the vehicle that's actually moving 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:31.320 the stuff like fats um, the waste by products of metabolism. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.440 Just basically it's a way to evacuate stuff from your 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.040 cells outside of it's a disposal system. Yeah, it sounds gross. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.560 So when you say fats and wastes right well, coming 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.120 through your skin, yes, And those don't stink in and 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.719 of themselves. It's the bacteria on your skin, the local flora, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.760 you know, the local fauna um that eats those fats 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.080 and then creates the stink as as excrement. So you 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.840 stink because of bacteria excrement. That's what it is. So 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.200 you've got both of these, and both of them are 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:08.160 capable of condition a very very strange condition called chrome hydrosis. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.160 I've never heard of this, and I would I thought 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.120 I knew everything about sweating. And the reason I didn't 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.240 know anything about it is because it is really, really 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.160 really rare, Like this is the alien hand syndrome of 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.240 bodily fluids, I would say, yeah, of sweating at least, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.640 there's a lot of weird bodily fluids going on. Syndromes. Uh, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.640 this is when drum roll, although you know the title 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.320 is when your sweat is colored and I thought I 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.360 had it bad, but sweating green. That's really what it is. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:44.080 This um, this condition, chromo hydrosis is um painless. It 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.560 doesn't lead to any other conditions. It's totally benign. It's 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:53.160 strictly embarrassing. It's it's debilitating, I imagine it. I mean, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.640 you can't wear certain clothes. You certainly can't wear white 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.440 because all of a sudden, like you have two large 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:05.840 circles where your nipples are, because that's one place where especially, uh, 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:12.320 the apocrine version takes places very typically under the armpit 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.200 and at the breast right. And and one of the 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.360 reasons why you can remember that apocrine sweat glands are 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:22.640 around your nipples because they are eventually converted into um 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.240 cells that deliver milk when you're when you're lactating, well, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.880 not you, but you know I told you a friend 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.920 that lactated a guy. That's right, you did, so apocrine 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.240 can turn into lactating cells. That's why they're around the nipple, right, Yes, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:42.160 And aprocrine. If you have this form of chrome chrome hydrosis, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.720 you will sweat yellow, green, blue, black, or brown. Yes. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.280 And why specifically because the culprit here is something called 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.439 LiPo fu skin. I don't know if it's lip a 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.840 few skin or lip a few skin. It's like lipid 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.520 like fat. It's a it's a type of that that's 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.240 been oxidized and yeah, and there you have it. I 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.200 mean it's pretty simple, like yeah, mystery salt. So Um, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.520 if you come to your physician and say, hey, man, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.439 why are my nipples orange producing orange sweat? Or blue 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.679 or green or yellow? Um, he's going to say I 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.599 have a pretty strong idea that it's apicrine chromeohydrosis. I 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.880 would say right away. That would be I saw the 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.559 orange lady. Did you see her? The I saw a 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:33.319 power point someone, Uh, what's she? A nurse? She wouldn't 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.319 know orange. So this is such a rare condition. I 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.240 don't know if we said that whoever you're talking about. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.800 It was probably the first case ever documented, and that 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.439 was like two thousand eight, maybe because it was a 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.959 power point that some I guess physician had done and 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.040 it showed, you know, her face was blacked out, but 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.760 it showed pictures of like her stained brazier and T 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.920 shirts and it was just like, I can't imagine that. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.600 I feel awful enough as a sweater, right, I mean 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.600 you're a sweater plus color? Yeah. Basically just fascinates people. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.040 You can't you can't fault somebody in. They're like, why 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.040 is what's going on. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I'm 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.880 sure that happens a lot. Like all you do is 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.439 explain away, like, oh, I have this weird condition where 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.439 I sweat orange. Well, apparently with um. This nurse that 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.520 I mentioned, I think she was like twenty six or 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.640 something like that, she spent five months wondering what the 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.240 heck was going on before she went and sought treatment. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.560 She had no idea. And I can't imagine sweating something 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.160 right away and waiting like five months before finally going 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.480 to a doctor for red sweat. Like I'm one of 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.079 those guys who will like put off going to the 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.120 doctor forever, you know, but red sweat would get me 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.040 in there. Have you seen the Gatorade commercial for people 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.640 sweat colors. I'm sure that's not what they were. They 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.560 weren't like they should have had a tag at the end, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.280 like not chrome. Yeah exactly. Did not have been like 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.040 the five people in the world to have this, so 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.400 um chuck. We were saying, like, if you come in 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.840 and your docter sees that you have like blue sweat 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.479 coming out of your nipples, they're gonna think it's apocrine chromhydrosis. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.240 You can prove definitively that it is by um holding 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.480 a black light up to the sweat because the the 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.800 LiPo fuskins phosphores what's called the wood the woods lamp. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.040 I've never heard that that's called a black light because 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.240 you know you have a basement and I when to 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:30.839 Spencer guests, right, exactly do you have any woods lamps? Yeah? Exactly. Um. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.120 So that's apricrine chrome hydrosies. Akron chrome hydrosis is also 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.480 equally well explained. It's always a foreign object like a 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.800 die or something that person is ingested that somehow gets 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.640 into the ecrine sweat clands and then is is um 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.439 produced because the one common thread between these two is 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.240 that the pigment is produced in the sweat plant. Yeah, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.080 that's important because if you're a min or a copper miner, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.040 sometimes you'll get a mineral mix with the sweat once 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.480 it leaves the skin, and it'll turn it blue blue 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.319 for copper. Yeah. Um. But which is not to be 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.720 confused with the blue man who who had he took 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.520 too much some kind of copper colloidal silver, that's what 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.079 it was. The senator or something or a congressman was 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.120 really one of the guys turned silver. He Oh, this 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.360 guy was blue. He looked like a blue sand clause. Yeah, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.559 from too much chloidal silver. So yes, if you have 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.439 a pseudo chromydros, it's it means that you're sweating a 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.839 normal color or colorless sweat, but it's reacting with something 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.840 on your skin to produce and they say, get out 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.680 of the copper mine and we'll stop eventually, stop rubbing, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.640 you know, pigment on yourself. Um. But with ekron chrome hydrosis, UM, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.800 you're you're producing pigmented sweat and then sweating pigmented sweat. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.280 But it's it's not from lip a few skins, it's 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.640 from something else. And that nurse that I was talking 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.679 about that weighted five years uh, and I think this 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.559 is in the mid nineties, in the late nineties. Um, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:08.040 she's sweat red and her um physicians took some samples 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.439 of you know, her regular sweat and you know, compared 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.160 it to the substance they found on her clothes and said, yeah, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.400 you've you've got chromidrosis. And we think it's akron And 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.640 well it would have to be because it wasn't yellow, green, blue, black, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.040 or brown. Right. Yeah, But we know so little about 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.599 this that if somebody's start if somebody presented with a 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.280 case of red apicrine um chromidrosis, they'd be like, Okay, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.280 well there's this is new, right, you know, because they 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.840 don't understand the mechanism behind either of them. They understand 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.640 what's going on, or they understand how it's happening. They 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.360 don't understand what's going on. They have no idea. Yeah, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.640 and I think this, like alien hand, is one of 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.599 those where they might be able to find out, but 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.400 it's so rare. There's it's not like a lot of 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.079 funding goes into this for research, so they just treat it, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.880 you know. Speaking of alien hand um, I found out 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.960 about this thing. I wrote a blog on it recently 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.640 about mirror dystonia, and it was like mirror neurons and 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.559 alien hand mixed together. Right, So, like if you have this, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:08.160 your brain isn't producing proteins. This one specific protein that 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.319 basically acts as like the switch like when you go 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.320 to pick pick this up with my right hand, right, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.040 so both of your both sides of your brain get 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.320 the signal. But there's this protein that switches as like okay, right, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.840 right hand. So this protein isn't strong enough and people 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.720 with mirror estonia so they go like this, really pick 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.120 up something with both hands, both hands, yes, or both, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.360 Like if they go to take a step with their 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.320 right foot, they do with their left foot to the 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.320 walking is very difficult to jump. Yeah, wow, isn't that crazy? 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.760 What to do a full podcast on that? Maybe there 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.480 is not enough on it? All right, Well that was 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:45.280 it then, So um akron chrome hydrosis that nurse I 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.360 was talking about. She was eating some sort of and 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.760 I could never find out. I wonder why I couldn't 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.160 thought it was like like a boy. I can't say. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.240 It was like a keebler devil's food cake. It had 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.560 it was tomato based and had pepperik and it was 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.840 a prepared food that she ate as a snack constantly. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:08.400 So the red tomato paste and the paprika, we're coloring 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.800 her sweat. And that's where science is baffled. They have 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:15.880 no idea how something you can get into your sweat glands. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.480 It doesn't make any sense. They also don't know why 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.240 some people overproduced lip of few skins or their fats 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.040 become overly oxidized until they become lip of few skins. Well, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.600 ekron is the one that you want because the treatment 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.200 for that is to identify the culprit of the foreign 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.240 food or not foreign, but that's whatever the food that's 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:43.200 discoloring your sweat and discontinuing that food like stuff. The 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.880 lady could have been like, you know, hey, um, to 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.320 heck with it. I'm gonna keep eating this. It's like guessing, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:57.520 so chuck if you I guess if you're stuck with 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:04.040 epicrine chromydrosis, right, or you love your tomato paste peprika 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.640 flavored whate prepared food product. Right. Um, that's that's my 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:13.240 novelty throwing disc Remember that on the Simpsons? Yeah, Um, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.680 they couldn't call it it for his Yeah, and I 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.520 don't think we can't either, Sure we can. Um, if 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.480 if you like it so much that you want to 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.840 seek treatment, what what what are some of your treatment options? Well, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.800 there's this substance called cap cap sasan, which is the 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.720 key ingredient to pepper spray. And it's a and bare 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.200 spray and it is from red pepper. It's a distrived 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.080 from red pepper itself, isn't it? Yeah, like red pepper 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.360 flakes pretty much. And it will burn you, I guess 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.720 if you spray it in your face. But apparently as 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.640 a cream it can help treat, uh, the Aprican version. Right, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.200 And we should have said earlier at crane sweat glands 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.200 are triggered by changes in body temperature since by the 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:01.960 hypothalamus um apocrine sweat glands are triggered by emotion. Well 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.879 that's why I talked about the nerves, right. Yeah. So, um, 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.840 there's this neurotransmitter called substance P that apparently is involved 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.800 with UM the activation of your apicrine sweat clans. Right, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.920 So with h with cap sasan for some reason, it 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:25.800 blocks the reuptake of substance P, which makes you sweat less. Yes, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.159 see mind working concert and I think most people that 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.080 sweat more than usual working concert because like you get 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.399 hot and you're like, oh crap, Like if you're headed 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.040 to I mean, if if you're not doing anything important, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.119 doesn't matter. But if you're going somewhere and you're like, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.360 oh man, now I'm sweating, and then the other ones 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.800 kick in, it even works. Yeah. That used to happen 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.760 to me in college, Like I couldn't sit towards the 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.440 front of the class because there's self conscious and I'd 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.280 still get my scalpels start to tingle a little bit, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.320 and I'd be like, is that sweat or their bugs 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.720 jumping off my head? And it just hit this vicious psycle. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.600 Are you sure that was going on? I'm pretty college 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.399 bugs jumping off your head? Okay, it could have all 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.320 been some sort of dream. Uh. I Also, it's funny, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.480 he said tingling, because I don't know if it's true. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.080 But I did see one account that said it's sometimes 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.720 associated with an aura like a warmth or prickling sensation. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.040 What the this condition? Oh? Really? Yeah? Huh, And that 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.399 it happens more often in African Americans and that the 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.760 youngest age they found it in was eleven year old, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:31.399 so in apocrine or ecrin both, just the whole condition period. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.639 I think I wonder if like these additional things, like 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.520 you can sense them leaving your skin maybe sweat or 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.240 this standard sweat. And I don't know if associated means 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.439 it was like one of the cases, or if everyone 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.520 across the board said it was kind of hazy. And 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.080 then we also talked about um Removing sweat glands is 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:54.840 one treatment option for hyper hydrosis and chromydrosis. Yeah, and 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.639 boch alenum, yeah, botox or that be fair mile block 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.560 is well, um, it's it affects it's a toxin, right, 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.800 and it affects the narrow transmitters that are involved in 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.040 sweating as well. Oh. The other the other one too, 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.160 which is a terrible treatment, is to express the glands 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.400 because it lasts a couple of days and like basically 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.440 sweat it out. But then you have to do that 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.399 for a couple of days. Or you could just go 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.480 to the sauna a lot. Yeah, I imagine that would help, 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.399 and where maybe like a sign around your neck that says, yes, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:33.040 I know I'm sweating blue right. Um was stupid. Have 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.280 you ever had to express your dog's anal glands? No? 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.520 I haven't. I Um someone roughly told me I don't 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.800 remember who, years ago, and I was like, I'm not 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:44.960 doing that. They're like, well, then you have to take 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.240 your dog to a groomer. I was like, no, I don't. Yeah, 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.120 Jerry ever Now have you ever smelled it anyone? Yes? 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.719 It is the most distinct awful smell on the planet. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.399 There's nothing worse. And it's exactly like when you smell it, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.879 you're like, okay, that's anal gland. Yeah, well that's why 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.320 they rubbed their their bottoms. They're expressing their own anal glass. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.879 My dogs are they self expressed. But you smell it 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.040 when it happens, and then you see them cleaning themselves 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.680 and you're just like, all right, remember no licks for 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.720 like a week on me? Yeah, I don't know. That's sorry, 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:22.479 I got sidetracked. So yeah, I guess that's it, right, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.359 You got anything else to do? There's so much I 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.760 don't on this one. There's so much sweating stuff. I 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.399 personally can tell you quite a bit about sweating, sweat, glands, zits, 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.920 all that stuff. I spent like a couple of months 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.639 is writing about this stuff for a while. Um, and 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:40.840 this article came out of it. I wonder if I 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.600 never got zits because I sweat so much. I wonder 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.080 if that helps keep my pores clean or something. I 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.280 don't know. It also has to do with oil on 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.000 the skin, and I think you're like my family, none 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.359 of us really got it, So I think it's hereditary 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.040 to a certain degree too, right, Yeah, And I think 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.040 it also has to do with the degree of how 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.600 sensitive your skin is. Right away, if you want to 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.280 learn about that kind of stuff and sweating and uh, 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.760 read my article on chrome e. Grosses. Type sweat into 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.520 the search bar at how stuff works dot Com and 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.440 they'll bring up a ton of stuff. We should do 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.560 one on acne. Okay, that's that's a big one. Yeah, 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.560 I'll bet some of our pubescent listeners would appreciate that one. 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.920 Am I right? Yeah? All right? Well I said, Am 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:28.600 I right? So that means it's time for a listener now. Yeah, 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.280 I'm gonna This is someone who's correcting us, and I'm 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.320 just not quite sure how right she is, so we're 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.360 gonna discuss it. Hey, guys, I'm a fairly new fan 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.879 of your show, but I really enjoy every episode. I'm 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.560 dying to go back and listen to the older ones, 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.360 but there are so many that it's taking some time. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.520 That's true. I just listened to the recent one about 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.440 America's version Murderer. It was great at the beginning, though 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.800 I think you may have confused or lumped together Puritans 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:56.800 and Pilgrims. Pilgrims that came to Plymouth rock in were 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.119 actually separatist because they wanted to completely breakaway in the 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.280 Church of England, whereas the large group that settled in 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:07.240 Massachusetts like ten years later it was Puritans they wanted 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.640 to purify, reform the Church of England, not break away. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.439 The Puritans and Separatists had some different philosophies and beliefs, 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.080 so I think it's important to make that distinction. I 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.720 am a history nerd, so I think those details are cool. 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:20.800 Please let me know if I misheard or if I 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.199 don't have my facts straight. Thank you, Rachel. I am 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.240 a history nerd too, Yes, And I don't know the 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.720 answer to that one. I looked it up and I 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.480 got a little confused, to be honest, because it was 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.280 a little bit like that rectangle or square thing like 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.960 I think some of the separatists where some of the 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.000