1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot com? Hey, you welcome to 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always is 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant flying by the seat of our pants, right, Chuckers. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of flying, you're like, let's go, let's go. I 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: gotta go to New York. Yeah, it's your birthday tomorrow. 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: It is happy birthday. This will be after the fact, 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: of course. I can't believe you're bringing this up. So 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: you got a little birthday trip plan. That's very nice. 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: You mistake me to New York. Nothing like a weekend 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: in New York that they're celebrating anything. I'm very excited 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: about it. Cool, I'm giddy. What you should be. Yeah, 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: and we were just in New York. But it wasn't 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: quite the same. You didn't come with did she? No? No, no, Um, 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: we're staying at a friend's place. Fortunately. Um, we have 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: some friends in Brooklyn. Well, should you say his name? Adams? Yeah, yeah, 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: I will Adam and Serena's now, Oh, it's a lot 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: of info. Might as well give out their address, so 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: security number, that kind of thing, um chuck, which probably 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: gets started right. Yeah, let's do it. You enjoy a 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: good sweat that has been determined. You know, you know 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: about sweating. Actually I hate a good I hate a 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: good sweat. Do you plagues me? I wouldn't call it plague. 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I think you have it under control. Yeah, I mean, 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: if I'm in the steam room, I love a good 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: sweat or the sauna. Yes, that's when you're supposed to sweat. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: I like it too. I don't like it. I don't 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: like it either. I'm totally with you. Like this summer 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: has been particularly hot here in Atlanta, I don't know 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: if you noticed, And like I'm at this point. There's 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: this boiling point I guess that I've been hovering around 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: for like the last four weeks, where like if I 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: think about it, I can make sweat just like burst 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: out from under my my um my pecks. It's so awful, 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: like all over my stomach. There's like a sweat trail, 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a horizontal one that I constantly have getting like skin 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: tags probably and then if you get the nerves, you 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: get both kinds of sweat, which we'll talk about. Yeah, 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: because there's two different kinds of sweat glands. You want 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: to just talk about sweating first and then go into this. 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's do that, Chuck. There's you know, the average 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: person has like four million sweat glands all over their body. 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: You have like eight by that, right, and they're they're 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: divided into two types, acrine and porcine, clothes, acorne and 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: apocrine yea ecrinee krone and apricrine. You say, you know, yeah, 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: I don't say that. So the the the are both 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: sweat glands. And you would think that you'd have, you know, 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: like they'd all provide one function. They don't. You would 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: be wrong, that's right. So ekrone sweat glands I think 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: are more predominant. I think there's more of them. They 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: cool you down, Yes, that's there. That's what they're charged 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: with this. They don't cool me down or else. Actually, 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it'd be like really really hot. 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: You would be dead. Your thermostat is set high and 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: it's your hypothalamus, by the way, that controls your body temperature, right, 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: I mean gets messages say from like your skin that 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: things are hot, and your hypothalamus is like, oh well, 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: I better activate the ekron, sweat glands, and humidity. I 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: reckon too, because that's what kills me. Well, humidity kills 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: you because it keeps you from sweating, not me, man, No, 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: it does. It kills you. It keeps you from cooling off. 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, so so it's like gets backed up. Yeah, 64 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: but it can be like sixty degrees in humid and 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll sweat. The worst is when you get out of 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: a shower and you start sweating immediately, Like you go 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: to the gym and the shower didn't take Yeah, right, man, 68 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a Seinfeld reference to actually is it? Yeah, George, 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: you got a shower that didn't take. Yeah, Okay, that 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: that rings a bell. So I'll take an ice cold 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: shower after the gym and it's still yeah, just sweat. Well, 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: it takes a little while for your hypothalamus to be like, okay, 73 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: it's cool down. Yeah right, so, um, your hypothalamus if 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: it detects that your body temperature is getting too high, 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: it needs to cool down it. Um. It sends a 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: message to your ekrone sweat glands that says, start sweating, boys, 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: And it's a different type of sweat that you're sweating then, Um, 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: the stuff that comes out of the apricrine glands, right, Yeah, 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: it's mostly salty saltwater basically, or water and salts but 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: mixed together, you sal and electrolytes. You've seen Idiocracy I have. Yeah, 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: you didn't like it, he said, No. I thought it 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: was good to a point, but the one joke premise 83 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: movie kind of got stale for me. I liked it, 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, but we did manage to work a 85 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: movie into a sweat podcast. The other kind, chuck is aprocrine, yes, 86 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: and that is usually in the well. Is it usually 87 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: in the ace, the axila and breast just period or 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: with this condition, that's where it's most heavily concentrated period, yes, okay. 89 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: And the axcel is under the armpit. Yes, that is 90 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: your armpit, Yeah, your xcel A. It's not under the armpit. 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: There's nothing under the armpit now, it's just dead space there, 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: that's right. Um, And I remember when we talked about 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: deodor versus any parts print classic s Y s K episode, 94 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: But that's a long time ago. Yeah, it was. Well, 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: we talked about sweat then too. An apacrine sweat glands 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: produced the kind of sweat that makes you stink, right, right, 97 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: So if it's just salt and water coming out of 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: your ecrone sweat glands, that's not gonna smell. Sweaty palms 99 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: are not gonna stink. No, they don't. You know that 100 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: there's a I mean there's over I think hyper hydrosis period. 101 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: But then some people get it so bad in their hands, 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, they have surgery. Yeah, well that's as that's 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: as far as we've ever progressed with um, the treatment 104 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: of sweating of any kind of sweat problems, like destroying 105 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: a sweat gland. We're moving them and rid of them 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: all together, or yeah, going in with like a laser 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't get the palms, it's just it's 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: my head and face, which is an awesome place to sweat. Well, 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: your palms are very hairy. I imagine if they weren't, 110 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: they would, uh, they would, they would be far more, 111 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: far sweatier. Okay. Um, So with the apricrine sweat glands, 112 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: you're sweating out water. That's the vehicle that's actually moving 113 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the stuff like fats um, the waste by products of metabolism. 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Just basically it's a way to evacuate stuff from your 115 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: cells outside of it's a disposal system. Yeah, it sounds gross. 116 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: So when you say fats and wastes right well, coming 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: through your skin, yes, And those don't stink in and 118 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: of themselves. It's the bacteria on your skin, the local flora, 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, the local fauna um that eats those fats 120 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and then creates the stink as as excrement. So you 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: stink because of bacteria excrement. That's what it is. So 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: you've got both of these, and both of them are 123 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: capable of condition a very very strange condition called chrome hydrosis. 124 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this, and I would I thought 125 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: I knew everything about sweating. And the reason I didn't 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: know anything about it is because it is really, really 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: really rare, Like this is the alien hand syndrome of 128 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: bodily fluids, I would say, yeah, of sweating at least, 129 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird bodily fluids going on. Syndromes. Uh, 130 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: this is when drum roll, although you know the title 131 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: is when your sweat is colored and I thought I 132 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: had it bad, but sweating green. That's really what it is. 133 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: This um, this condition, chromo hydrosis is um painless. It 134 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: doesn't lead to any other conditions. It's totally benign. It's 135 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: strictly embarrassing. It's it's debilitating, I imagine it. I mean, 136 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: you can't wear certain clothes. You certainly can't wear white 137 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, like you have two large 138 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: circles where your nipples are, because that's one place where especially, uh, 139 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: the apocrine version takes places very typically under the armpit 140 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: and at the breast right. And and one of the 141 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: reasons why you can remember that apocrine sweat glands are 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: around your nipples because they are eventually converted into um 143 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: cells that deliver milk when you're when you're lactating, well, 144 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: not you, but you know I told you a friend 145 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that lactated a guy. That's right, you did, so apocrine 146 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: can turn into lactating cells. That's why they're around the nipple, right, Yes, 147 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: And aprocrine. If you have this form of chrome chrome hydrosis, 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: you will sweat yellow, green, blue, black, or brown. Yes. 149 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: And why specifically because the culprit here is something called 150 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: LiPo fu skin. I don't know if it's lip a 151 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: few skin or lip a few skin. It's like lipid 152 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: like fat. It's a it's a type of that that's 153 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: been oxidized and yeah, and there you have it. I 154 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: mean it's pretty simple, like yeah, mystery salt. So Um, 155 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: if you come to your physician and say, hey, man, 156 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: why are my nipples orange producing orange sweat? Or blue 157 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: or green or yellow? Um, he's going to say I 158 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: have a pretty strong idea that it's apicrine chromeohydrosis. I 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: would say right away. That would be I saw the 160 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: orange lady. Did you see her? The I saw a 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: power point someone, Uh, what's she? A nurse? She wouldn't 162 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: know orange. So this is such a rare condition. I 163 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: don't know if we said that whoever you're talking about. 164 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: It was probably the first case ever documented, and that 165 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: was like two thousand eight, maybe because it was a 166 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: power point that some I guess physician had done and 167 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: it showed, you know, her face was blacked out, but 168 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: it showed pictures of like her stained brazier and T 169 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: shirts and it was just like, I can't imagine that. 170 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: I feel awful enough as a sweater, right, I mean 171 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: you're a sweater plus color? Yeah. Basically just fascinates people. 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: You can't you can't fault somebody in. They're like, why 173 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: is what's going on. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I'm 174 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: sure that happens a lot. Like all you do is 175 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: explain away, like, oh, I have this weird condition where 176 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: I sweat orange. Well, apparently with um. This nurse that 177 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned, I think she was like twenty six or 178 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: something like that, she spent five months wondering what the 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: heck was going on before she went and sought treatment. 180 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: She had no idea. And I can't imagine sweating something 181 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: right away and waiting like five months before finally going 182 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: to a doctor for red sweat. Like I'm one of 183 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: those guys who will like put off going to the 184 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: doctor forever, you know, but red sweat would get me 185 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: in there. Have you seen the Gatorade commercial for people 186 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: sweat colors. I'm sure that's not what they were. They 187 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: weren't like they should have had a tag at the end, 188 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: like not chrome. Yeah exactly. Did not have been like 189 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: the five people in the world to have this, so 190 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: um chuck. We were saying, like, if you come in 191 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: and your docter sees that you have like blue sweat 192 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 1: coming out of your nipples, they're gonna think it's apocrine chromhydrosis. 193 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: You can prove definitively that it is by um holding 194 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: a black light up to the sweat because the the 195 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: LiPo fuskins phosphores what's called the wood the woods lamp. 196 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: I've never heard that that's called a black light because 197 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: you know you have a basement and I when to 198 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: Spencer guests, right, exactly do you have any woods lamps? Yeah? Exactly. Um. 199 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: So that's apricrine chrome hydrosies. Akron chrome hydrosis is also 200 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: equally well explained. It's always a foreign object like a 201 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: die or something that person is ingested that somehow gets 202 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: into the ecrine sweat clands and then is is um 203 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: produced because the one common thread between these two is 204 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: that the pigment is produced in the sweat plant. Yeah, 205 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: that's important because if you're a min or a copper miner, 206 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get a mineral mix with the sweat once 207 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: it leaves the skin, and it'll turn it blue blue 208 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: for copper. Yeah. Um. But which is not to be 209 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: confused with the blue man who who had he took 210 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: too much some kind of copper colloidal silver, that's what 211 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: it was. The senator or something or a congressman was 212 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: really one of the guys turned silver. He Oh, this 213 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: guy was blue. He looked like a blue sand clause. Yeah, 214 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: from too much chloidal silver. So yes, if you have 215 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: a pseudo chromydros, it's it means that you're sweating a 216 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: normal color or colorless sweat, but it's reacting with something 217 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: on your skin to produce and they say, get out 218 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: of the copper mine and we'll stop eventually, stop rubbing, 219 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, pigment on yourself. Um. But with ekron chrome hydrosis, UM, 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you're you're producing pigmented sweat and then sweating pigmented sweat. 221 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: But it's it's not from lip a few skins, it's 222 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: from something else. And that nurse that I was talking 223 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: about that weighted five years uh, and I think this 224 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: is in the mid nineties, in the late nineties. Um, 225 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: she's sweat red and her um physicians took some samples 226 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: of you know, her regular sweat and you know, compared 227 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: it to the substance they found on her clothes and said, yeah, 228 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: you've you've got chromidrosis. And we think it's akron And 229 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: well it would have to be because it wasn't yellow, green, blue, black, 230 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: or brown. Right. Yeah, But we know so little about 231 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: this that if somebody's start if somebody presented with a 232 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: case of red apicrine um chromidrosis, they'd be like, Okay, 233 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: well there's this is new, right, you know, because they 234 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: don't understand the mechanism behind either of them. They understand 235 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: what's going on, or they understand how it's happening. They 236 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: don't understand what's going on. They have no idea. Yeah, 237 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: and I think this, like alien hand, is one of 238 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: those where they might be able to find out, but 239 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: it's so rare. There's it's not like a lot of 240 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: funding goes into this for research, so they just treat it, 241 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: you know. Speaking of alien hand um, I found out 242 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: about this thing. I wrote a blog on it recently 243 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: about mirror dystonia, and it was like mirror neurons and 244 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: alien hand mixed together. Right, So, like if you have this, 245 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: your brain isn't producing proteins. This one specific protein that 246 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: basically acts as like the switch like when you go 247 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: to pick pick this up with my right hand, right, 248 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: so both of your both sides of your brain get 249 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: the signal. But there's this protein that switches as like okay, right, 250 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: right hand. So this protein isn't strong enough and people 251 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: with mirror estonia so they go like this, really pick 252 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: up something with both hands, both hands, yes, or both, 253 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Like if they go to take a step with their 254 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: right foot, they do with their left foot to the 255 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: walking is very difficult to jump. Yeah, wow, isn't that crazy? 256 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: What to do a full podcast on that? Maybe there 257 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: is not enough on it? All right, Well that was 258 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: it then, So um akron chrome hydrosis that nurse I 259 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: was talking about. She was eating some sort of and 260 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I could never find out. I wonder why I couldn't 261 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: thought it was like like a boy. I can't say. 262 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: It was like a keebler devil's food cake. It had 263 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: it was tomato based and had pepperik and it was 264 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: a prepared food that she ate as a snack constantly. 265 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: So the red tomato paste and the paprika, we're coloring 266 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: her sweat. And that's where science is baffled. They have 267 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: no idea how something you can get into your sweat glands. 268 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. They also don't know why 269 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: some people overproduced lip of few skins or their fats 270 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: become overly oxidized until they become lip of few skins. Well, 271 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: ekron is the one that you want because the treatment 272 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: for that is to identify the culprit of the foreign 273 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: food or not foreign, but that's whatever the food that's 274 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: discoloring your sweat and discontinuing that food like stuff. The 275 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: lady could have been like, you know, hey, um, to 276 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: heck with it. I'm gonna keep eating this. It's like guessing, 277 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: so chuck if you I guess if you're stuck with 278 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: epicrine chromydrosis, right, or you love your tomato paste peprika 279 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: flavored whate prepared food product. Right. Um, that's that's my 280 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: novelty throwing disc Remember that on the Simpsons? Yeah, Um, 281 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: they couldn't call it it for his Yeah, and I 282 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: don't think we can't either, Sure we can. Um, if 283 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: if you like it so much that you want to 284 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: seek treatment, what what what are some of your treatment options? Well, 285 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: there's this substance called cap cap sasan, which is the 286 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: key ingredient to pepper spray. And it's a and bare 287 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: spray and it is from red pepper. It's a distrived 288 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: from red pepper itself, isn't it? Yeah, like red pepper 289 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: flakes pretty much. And it will burn you, I guess 290 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: if you spray it in your face. But apparently as 291 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: a cream it can help treat, uh, the Aprican version. Right, 292 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: And we should have said earlier at crane sweat glands 293 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: are triggered by changes in body temperature since by the 294 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: hypothalamus um apocrine sweat glands are triggered by emotion. Well 295 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: that's why I talked about the nerves, right. Yeah. So, um, 296 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: there's this neurotransmitter called substance P that apparently is involved 297 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: with UM the activation of your apicrine sweat clans. Right, 298 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: So with h with cap sasan for some reason, it 299 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: blocks the reuptake of substance P, which makes you sweat less. Yes, 300 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: see mind working concert and I think most people that 301 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: sweat more than usual working concert because like you get 302 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: hot and you're like, oh crap, Like if you're headed 303 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: to I mean, if if you're not doing anything important, 304 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But if you're going somewhere and you're like, 305 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: oh man, now I'm sweating, and then the other ones 306 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: kick in, it even works. Yeah. That used to happen 307 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: to me in college, Like I couldn't sit towards the 308 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: front of the class because there's self conscious and I'd 309 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: still get my scalpels start to tingle a little bit, 310 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, is that sweat or their bugs 311 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: jumping off my head? And it just hit this vicious psycle. 312 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Are you sure that was going on? I'm pretty college 313 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: bugs jumping off your head? Okay, it could have all 314 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: been some sort of dream. Uh. I Also, it's funny, 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: he said tingling, because I don't know if it's true. 316 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: But I did see one account that said it's sometimes 317 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: associated with an aura like a warmth or prickling sensation. 318 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: What the this condition? Oh? Really? Yeah? Huh, And that 319 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: it happens more often in African Americans and that the 320 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: youngest age they found it in was eleven year old, 321 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: so in apocrine or ecrin both, just the whole condition period. 322 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: I think I wonder if like these additional things, like 323 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: you can sense them leaving your skin maybe sweat or 324 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: this standard sweat. And I don't know if associated means 325 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: it was like one of the cases, or if everyone 326 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: across the board said it was kind of hazy. And 327 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: then we also talked about um Removing sweat glands is 328 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: one treatment option for hyper hydrosis and chromydrosis. Yeah, and 329 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: boch alenum, yeah, botox or that be fair mile block 330 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: is well, um, it's it affects it's a toxin, right, 331 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: and it affects the narrow transmitters that are involved in 332 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: sweating as well. Oh. The other the other one too, 333 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: which is a terrible treatment, is to express the glands 334 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: because it lasts a couple of days and like basically 335 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: sweat it out. But then you have to do that 336 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Or you could just go 337 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: to the sauna a lot. Yeah, I imagine that would help, 338 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: and where maybe like a sign around your neck that says, yes, 339 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm sweating blue right. Um was stupid. Have 340 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: you ever had to express your dog's anal glands? No? 341 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: I haven't. I Um someone roughly told me I don't 342 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: remember who, years ago, and I was like, I'm not 343 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: doing that. They're like, well, then you have to take 344 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: your dog to a groomer. I was like, no, I don't. Yeah, 345 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: Jerry ever Now have you ever smelled it anyone? Yes? 346 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: It is the most distinct awful smell on the planet. 347 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse. And it's exactly like when you smell it, 348 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that's anal gland. Yeah, well that's why 349 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: they rubbed their their bottoms. They're expressing their own anal glass. 350 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: My dogs are they self expressed. But you smell it 351 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: when it happens, and then you see them cleaning themselves 352 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: and you're just like, all right, remember no licks for 353 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: like a week on me? Yeah, I don't know. That's sorry, 354 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: I got sidetracked. So yeah, I guess that's it, right, 355 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: You got anything else to do? There's so much I 356 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: don't on this one. There's so much sweating stuff. I 357 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: personally can tell you quite a bit about sweating, sweat, glands, zits, 358 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I spent like a couple of months 359 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: is writing about this stuff for a while. Um, and 360 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: this article came out of it. I wonder if I 361 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: never got zits because I sweat so much. I wonder 362 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: if that helps keep my pores clean or something. I 363 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: don't know. It also has to do with oil on 364 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the skin, and I think you're like my family, none 365 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: of us really got it, So I think it's hereditary 366 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: to a certain degree too, right, Yeah, And I think 367 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: it also has to do with the degree of how 368 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: sensitive your skin is. Right away, if you want to 369 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: learn about that kind of stuff and sweating and uh, 370 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: read my article on chrome e. Grosses. Type sweat into 371 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot Com and 372 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: they'll bring up a ton of stuff. We should do 373 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: one on acne. Okay, that's that's a big one. Yeah, 374 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: I'll bet some of our pubescent listeners would appreciate that one. 375 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: Am I right? Yeah? All right? Well I said, Am 376 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I right? So that means it's time for a listener now. Yeah, 377 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna This is someone who's correcting us, and I'm 378 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: just not quite sure how right she is, so we're 379 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna discuss it. Hey, guys, I'm a fairly new fan 380 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: of your show, but I really enjoy every episode. I'm 381 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: dying to go back and listen to the older ones, 382 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: but there are so many that it's taking some time. 383 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: That's true. I just listened to the recent one about 384 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: America's version Murderer. It was great at the beginning, though 385 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I think you may have confused or lumped together Puritans 386 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: and Pilgrims. Pilgrims that came to Plymouth rock in were 387 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: actually separatist because they wanted to completely breakaway in the 388 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Church of England, whereas the large group that settled in 389 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Massachusetts like ten years later it was Puritans they wanted 390 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: to purify, reform the Church of England, not break away. 391 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: The Puritans and Separatists had some different philosophies and beliefs, 392 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: so I think it's important to make that distinction. I 393 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: am a history nerd, so I think those details are cool. 394 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Please let me know if I misheard or if I 395 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: don't have my facts straight. Thank you, Rachel. I am 396 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: a history nerd too, Yes, And I don't know the 397 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: answer to that one. I looked it up and I 398 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: got a little confused, to be honest, because it was 399 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: a little bit like that rectangle or square thing like 400 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: I think some of the separatists where some of the 401 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Puritans were separatists but not necessarily the other way around 402 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: or something, or pilgrim I don't know. I got confused. Oh, 403 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: so you're saying some of the Pilgrims were separatists, but 404 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: not all separatists were Pilgrims. One of those kind of things. So, 405 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: but I mean I could see it. That explains why 406 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: there is the word separatists, say in the word Puritans. Yeah, 407 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: and I'm sure described the same group. I think I 408 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: would argue though, that, um, it matters so little at 409 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: this point that we Okay, lump them together. She's saying that. 410 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: I think she's saying that there were no Puritan pilgrims. Okay, well, 411 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll either find out someone will set 412 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: a straight that really knows it, or we will just say, Rachel, 413 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: thank you for the correction. Yeah. Either way, I'm gonna go. Look, Okay, 414 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: I can't let this suppress. Let me know, even if 415 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter any longer, I still need to know. 416 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: And it's not like I didn't care. I did, look, 417 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: but it's we're busy now. I didn't have quite enough 418 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: time to fully researcher. Well, uh, okay, if you have 419 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: an amazing historical fact that's been lost to the age 420 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: of the time that you want to tell us about, 421 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: We're very interested in that kind of stuff, right right, Uh, 422 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: send us an email you totally should. 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