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Speaker 1: me deal with the symptoms because I have so much

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Speaker 1: on my plate that I need to deal with and

435
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: I need to sleep. But now I'm like kind of

436
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: been a better place where I can be like, Okay,

437
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: what is this, Like why is my nervous system here?

438
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: Still like I need to to kind of address some

439
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: of the underlying things. I've always been a hard it's

440
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: been hard for me to sleep, but like there's more

441
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: to it, I think in the last couple of years

442
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: than I need to probably address.

443
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm luckily I don't have a problem sleeping.

444
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: I just oh, I know. You go to sleep and

445
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: then you go like hard and fast. I feel like

446
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: there's two types of people in this world, and I

447
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: always date the other type, like the type that can

448
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: just lay down, fall right asleep and then they're out

449
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: for the full night. And I'm over here just tossing

450
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: and turning, and I'll wake up a million times in

451
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: the night. Like, don't it's hard for me to have

452
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 1: a you know, a deep sleep.

453
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: I've been measuring my sleep because I got to see paps.

454
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping even better. And I use an app called

455
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: shut eye and it like maps your sleeping. Yeah, and

456
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: the deep sleep is obviously what you where you want

457
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: to spend the at least half of your night. And

458
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm real good at that.

459
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm there all night.

460
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm real good.

461
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: I feel like if some people could be professional sleepers,

462
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: they would really nail that job. I am not one

463
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: of them. Do you want to talk a little bit

464
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: about the mushroom thing, because I feel like you had

465
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Speaker 1: some questions about it. Do you want to talk a

466
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: little bit about the mushroom thing? Because I feel like

467
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: you had some questions about it.

468
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's funny. So Kelly sent me a

469
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: list of topics today and I was walking my dogs

470
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: this morning, and you know, I'm aging. So the things

471
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about right now are different, Like I'm

472
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: like looking at life a little differently now. It's like

473
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: I'll be fifty this year, which means in twenty years

474
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 2: i'll be seventy. That doesn't seem that long. And I

475
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: don't mean it this in a negative way, but it's

476
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: like a diminishing returns kind of thing. So it's like

477
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: anything that I've sort of had the idea of, like

478
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: I want to do this, I have so much less

479
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: time to do it now. Like so anything that I've

480
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: just put a pin in, I'm like, I need to

481
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: like really figure out what the things on my deathbed

482
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: are going to be that I regret not trying. I mean,

483
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Speaker 2: I started a stand up comedy class last Sunday.

484
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Speaker 1: Did you really? Yeah?

485
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't told any but the only

486
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: person that knows is Allison is because she signed up

487
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: for two but next month. I've never had the aspirations

488
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: to be a stand up comic, and I probably will

489
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: never even try. It's more about like the writing and

490
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: being creative, okay, and just sort of understanding how to

491
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: craft a joke was really kind of what I wanted

492
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: to understand more.

493
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Speaker 1: Wait, but I have to do like a stand up show.

494
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: I think, so can I come?

495
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: So? I think so? Yeah, I think so, I'll let

496
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 2: you know. Wait, okay, I mean once we I know,

497
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: I will tell everybody if there's an answers enough. But

498
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, as I was walking the dogs

499
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: this morning, I was like, you know, I'm really fortunate.

500
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: I work in a job that I love. I'm around

501
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: creative people. I get to be creative in my job.

502
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: But I've never been a creator, even though I think

503
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: I have it in my bones, and which is what

504
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: drew me to this job, because you know, I was

505
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: I studied acting in college, and they just drill it

506
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: into your head like you're never going to make any money,

507
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: You're going to be oh blah blah blah. I knew

508
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: that I had a crazy to be a creator of

509
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: some sort, and I mentioned on the podcast a few

510
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: weeks ago that like, I've got a goal of writing

511
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: a script this year, and so I was thinking this

512
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: morning like about your hero trip that you did, and

513
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I was just like, maybe I just need to go

514
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: and do that. Like, clearly there is something bubbling in

515
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: me that I need to give myself the permission to

516
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: like embrace that side of me. Because I ran into

517
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 2: a drummer for one of our artists. This is probably

518
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 2: last year, and he told me he had done a

519
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: big I don't think he'd ever done mushrooms before, and

520
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: he went and did like a big hero journey trip

521
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: and he came out of it an artist. He stopped drumming.

522
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: He's an incredible tattoo artist and he had never drawn before.

523
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: What Yeah, locks, It unlocked something in him that he

524
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: did not know existed. And so I was thinking about

525
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: both you and him this morning, and I'm like, because

526
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: I know I have it in me, it's I don't

527
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: give myself the permission to be that. And so I'm like, look,

528
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: I could I could go do this and find out

529
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: that maybe that's not the path I'm supposed to you know,

530
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: maybe I'm supposed to be a vet. I don't know,

531
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: but I kind of feel like I need to do

532
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: something like that just to shake myself well.

533
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: And also, if you're having like these nudges or these

534
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: intuitive hits about it, there is something there.

535
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: Spend questions and I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, yeah,

536
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm like this is crazy.

537
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: So I mean what Christy and I talked about, and

538
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I said a similar thing because I did if for

539
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: any listener who has not heard me talk about this,

540
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: I did what he what Chip is referring to as

541
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: a big hero dose, and Christy and I talked about

542
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: that as well, where I did like a ceremony with

543
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: a shaman and then I did a big dose of

544
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: psilocybin and it takes you on about a four hour trip,

545
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and that talked about this on Wednesday. I genuinely was tripping,

546
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: like I had to get up to pe at one

547
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: point he had to help me walk to the bathroom.

548
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: And then when I got in the bathroom, the walls

549
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: weremoving and I've never done that, like I've never been

550
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: shipping like that, so it was in a very I

551
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: started laughing. I remember sitting on the toilet and just

552
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: dying laughing because the walls were like all over the

553
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: place and a very psychedelic, like what you would think

554
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: a psychedelic journey would look like. But that wasn't my

555
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: experience during my actual journey. I guess like he's done

556
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: all this research with Johns Hopkins, and he has a

557
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: playlist that you listen to that triggers your brain and

558
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: to go into certain parts of your subconscious. And the

559
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: way mine went was actually, you know what, I'm hesitant

560
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: to always say how mine went, because it goes different

561
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: for every person that I know, and so I don't

562
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: ever want to impose what happened with me onto others. No,

563
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: it's very much like your body knows what it needs,

564
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: and mine got exactly what it needed, and I had

565
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: a big release and then I had a big joyous

566
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: part of the ceremony or journey or whatever you want

567
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: to say. But it's very much like watching a movie

568
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: of my life, like I was going through these different journeys,

569
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: and each time this song would change, it was like

570
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: different and different people would just enter. And so it's

571
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: like genuinely working with your subconscious, which is what I

572
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: think is so cool because ninety five percent of our

573
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: whole brain is functioning from our subconscious and we don't

574
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: ever talk about that. Like things, yeah, and the things

575
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: that are driving us on the day to day, the reaction.

576
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Do you have the desires? You have all of that,

577
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: It's somewhere buried in your subconscious and so working with

578
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: plant medicine like this can bring it to the forefront,

579
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: which is what I hear you saying with that tattoo artist.

580
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: And when you learn more. I mean, I know it

581
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: does sound really scary to a lot of people, but

582
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: these practices have been around forever, and it's just like

583
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: when we go back to the medical world or whatever,

584
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: if you really start researching about it, a lot of

585
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: it got dumbed down, made illegal, not used in the

586
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: medical world or the health field or the mental health

587
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: fields because they can't make a bunch of money on

588
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: it because usually you do one thing and then it

589
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: heals a lot of stuff. You're not coming back regularly,

590
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, you're not buying pills every month or whatever.

591
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, that was my experience, and I've also been

592
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: having this ping of like do I want to work

593
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: with flower essences? Do I want to work with plant

594
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: medicine again in some sort of way, because I've had

595
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: some blocks that I'm like you, like, I know there's

596
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: something in there, and for some reason I'm not able

597
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to access it. But I feel the pool, so I

598
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: know it's there, and it's like I'm ready, I just

599
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: haven't quite found the road yet, and so I want

600
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to work with my brain and my own intuition and

601
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: my subconscious and find it. So I'm going to actually

602
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: start using microflow or microdosing probably in the next couple weeks.

603
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: So I'll keep you guys posted on that. But that's

604
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: exciting if you want to do one, Like I love that, yeah.

605
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: And I think I mean you all probably talked about

606
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: it on Wednesday, But like, the microdosing thing is a

607
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: much different You're not tripping, so you.

608
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Go function in your day drive you can parents see

609
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: things a.

610
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Little bit more clearly because it opens up your mind's

611
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: eye in a way. And you know, in the hero

612
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: dose thing too, the trip that Kelly did, you should say, like,

613
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: this isn't about like a party. She was in a

614
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: very safe environment. Was yeah, she was in her bed,

615
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Like it's not a drug thing, like it truly is

616
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: a medical thing. She was safe because there was I mean,

617
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: he was in the house.

618
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Well it's a whole thing. You like, there was meet

619
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: before months before you talk through your goals, you like,

620
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all these protocols. He doesn't even work

621
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: with everyone. There is a very big process to this,

622
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people would be like, oh,

623
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: were you tripping your ass off or whatever, and I'm like,

624
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. It was a total mental health

625
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: reset for me, and it completely changed my life. Like

626
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: after that, I didn't drink for a year. I didn't

627
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: want to, like it was this really interesting. I just

628
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I was very curious and I was going so much

629
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: deeper with myself. But what I told Christy on Wednesday

630
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: is I could not get out of a cycle of

631
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: these very addictive, toxic relationships. And if you listened to

632
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: the podcast for a long time, like you've heard me

633
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: talk through with so many different facilitators, like all the

634
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: different things I tried, all the different work that I did,

635
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and all of it mattered. Like I'm not saying this

636
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: was the one end all, be all, but it did

637
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: rewire something. It triggered something that I could not access

638
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: even with all the therapy, even with all the facilitators.

639
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: It was just like it all worked together for me,

640
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: and I think we need all of it. Like I'm

641
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: not saying do this not that it's just more of

642
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: a listen to your inner knowing and your own calling

643
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: and like what you're feeling right now. I would say,

644
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: if you're feeling called, then you're ready. Yeah, go do it.

645
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: I just I get I want everyone to do it

646
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this would we wouldn't be fighting in

647
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: our country because you see the world differently. You know,

648
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: we're all connected. You like know we're supposed to work

649
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: with each other and not tear each other down. But

650
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: it's really hard when not everyone in the world has

651
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: on that, right.

652
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's called enlightenment.

653
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean it's yeah. I don't feel like,

654
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: oh it's so enlightened, but it was. It was eye

655
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: opening for sure.

656
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: That's enlightenment.

657
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you remember me texting y'all and being like,

658
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I just feel like my heart could explode with so

659
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: much love. I felt so much love that I genuinely

660
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: was like, my heart's going to explode. That's what I felt, Like,

661
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: tell me that's a bad thing. I don't I can't

662
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: find the bad Well that yes, but it didn't because

663
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm still here. It makes me upset that certain things

664
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: get demonized. And again I understand there are there side

665
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: effects to everything, or there could be a negative situation,

666
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: but that's the same, if not worse with like pills.

667
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I guess I don't understand

668
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: why we're not working with it in a safe way.

669
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: And I do think that's entered the conversation a lot,

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: Like they're definitely talking about using it in therapy more

671
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: and PTSD. I mean, I had a lot of PTSD

672
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: from some abusive situations, and like that got alleviated too.

673
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

674
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: I love to think of the idea that there are

675
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: animals throughout history that have just walked up and eaten

676
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: a mushroom and then trip because surely it would affect

677
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: a bear or a wolf or the same way. And

678
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: a lot of those animals forage for things like mushrooms.

679
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: They know more than us.

680
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

681
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: It's just really interesting. Do you want to play a

682
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: game of would you rather? But with like health stuff.

683
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: I've pulled some questions that I thought could be really funny,

684
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: but these are legit. I mean, if we're exploring you're

685
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about doing a psilocybin journey, Yeah, let's

686
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: do it. Did you have anything else you wanted to

687
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: say about that. By the way, did I cut that

688
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: off to past?

689
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: No? I mean I just thought it was like another

690
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: sort of sign from the universe. I thought it was

691
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: very odd that this is what we were going to

692
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: talk about today.

693
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, from mel Robbins to psilocybin, and we just

694
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: don't even know what Chip's going to bring these days.

695
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Guys have I'm gonna have self health books on the

696
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: top of the New York Times.

697
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Bestsellers, So you're gonna write one.

698
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean funny, They're gonna be funny.

699
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can use your comedy routine. It

700
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: makes self help fun.

701
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

702
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: I love this combination.

703
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: There we go.

704
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: We just came up with a BDI going into all

705
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: our idea a BDI. What if you know we've talked

706
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: about that a lot. Okay, we'll call this the would

707
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: you rather the Health Edition because we've played would you rather?

708
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: On here before but it was not health related.

709
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: But these are weird health things.

710
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: They're not weird. But okay. One thing that Christy and

711
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I talked about a lot, for instance, was parasites. Did

712
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: you know that, like she says, if you have a polse,

713
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: you have a parasite. What does that make you think

714
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: face right now?

715
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes sense.

716
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: Well, I've had an overgrowth of them before, and so

717
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I've done cleanses to get rid of them. You probably

718
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: have and you just don't know. But I was having

719
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of stomach issues and I was like, what

720
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: is happening? And it would go from basically not being

721
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: able to use the bathroom to like going too much,

722
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: and I knew something was off. So I saw this

723
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: holistic guy and he was like, Oh, you have a

724
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: parasite overgrowth in one of my intestines, and so they'll

725
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: basically eat all the nutrients in your body, so you're

726
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: not getting them and they hold on to it. That's

727
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: why I would get constipated or whatever, and then I

728
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: would have this like massive release sometimes and it was

729
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: just not I knew it wasn't good for my gut,

730
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Like none of it was good, and my gut wasn't

731
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: absorbing any of the nutrition like for my food or

732
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: vitamins or anything like that because the parasites are eating them.

733
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, we talked. She and I talked a lot

734
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: about it. I know it sounds really weird to people

735
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: if you've never addressed it. But I love that if

736
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you have a pulsy of a parasite because it's very

737
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: common and it's ye.

738
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Come on, fruits and foods and meat.

739
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but walking outside barefoot you can get them with

740
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: They're in the water, They're like, they're everywhere. But a

741
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: lot of times our body will just release them. It's

742
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: just if you have too many toxins in your body,

743
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: they have a place to live. That's what that's the

744
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: whole point of like, why you want your insides to

745
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: be healthy. It's because the more toxic you are on

746
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: the inside, the more things like that. They love it.

747
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: They want to go to out. That's crazy. Okay. So

748
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: that's one of the first questions has to do with that.

749
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: Would you rather do a parasite cleanse for a month

750
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: or drink cell rejuice every day for a year?

751
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: Cell rejuice?

752
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Same? Okay. The word parasite is just overwhelming.

753
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't want something feeding off of me. That's correct.

754
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, what if you had them, because what if these

755
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: are two treatments for them? Would you rather do cell

756
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: rejuice for a year or would you want to do

757
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: a pear? Okay, me too. I also like I'm realizing

758
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: my body is just sensitive, Like I'm a sensitive human emotionally,

759
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: but it's also just sensitive physically, So like I don't

760
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: like to do things that are just really aggressive anymore. Yeah, okay,

761
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: so we're both doing cell re juice for you. Maybe

762
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: we should start doing that anyway. Okay. Would you rather

763
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: do a coffee ininema every morning or take ice bats

764
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: every night for a month? Okay? Would you rather do

765
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: a coffee ininema every morning or take ice bats every

766
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: night for a month?

767
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: But if you could coffee animal, I'm one.

768
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Percent doing the coffee anema. Yeah, I don't think I

769
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: would mind that first of all, but I hate being cold.

770
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: I can't stand it.

771
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I wouldn't want to do an ice bath

772
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: at night either. Like, if I'm gonna do an ice bath,

773
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: it needs to be during the day or in the

774
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: morning to like wake me up. If I feel like

775
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: if I did an ice bath at night, I wouldn't sleep.

776
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: You would definitely not sleep.

777
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: No, never, I've tried twice, and I'm like, this is

778
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: not for me. This is not the way that I

779
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: get my body well more cold. Okay. Would you rather

780
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: microdose mushrooms for three months, or do a week long

781
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: silent meditation retreat mushrooms? Duh, Like, can'd.

782
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: Be quiet for a week?

783
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Imagine you're trying to be quiet for a week.

784
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: It's hard enough to meditate for five minutes a day.

785
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean no, I agree, But like, just not

786
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: talking for a week sounds so isolating to me.

787
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: I would It'd be like we care spot have to

788
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: sneak out the chit at Starbucks.

789
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: You're like, who wants to talk to me? Anybody body

790
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: talk to me? Nobody just fucking talk to me? Okay?

791
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: Would you rather only eat organ meat? You know, they're

792
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: really starting to talk about like the whole animal being

793
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: really healthy. So that's a big one, Like liver, the tongue,

794
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: like things that we typically just throw away. They're talking

795
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: about how important they might be for our health. Okay,

796
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: So would you rather only eat organ meat for a

797
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: week or drink bone broth for every meal for a week.

798
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: I think I'd probably do the bone broth same, although

799
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: I do like like liver, pete and things like that,

800
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: but not I just the term organ meat. I was

801
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: hoping you were going to say it was from the

802
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: state of Oregon, but no, no, it was organ meat.

803
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: Organ meat. I love bone broth, so that one doesn't

804
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: scare me. I mean, I think it would be a

805
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: little bit like us being back at week here, because

806
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're back on liquids. But I'm such

807
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: a texture person, so I struggle with meat sometimes because

808
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: there's only certain meats that can really I can do.

809
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Tongue is not a texture that you want to eat.

810
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Liver is tough too, Like the liver, I've seen it,

811
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: I've felt it. I think I've maybe tried to taste it.

812
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm like, I want a gag right now,

813
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: even to my.

814
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: Parents us fried chicken livers and gizzards.

815
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: No, I know that's what they're saying, but that's actually

816
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: like the things they're talking about again, I mean, probably

817
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: not fried, but you know, maybe if you use something

818
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: other than Chris go or or the things that they

819
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: probably used. Okay, would you rather get a deep tissue

820
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: massage that hurts like hell or do three hours of

821
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: hot yoga.

822
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: The deep tissue massage that hurts me?

823
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: I think I would too. I can take that pain

824
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: for some reason.

825
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: You know, here's a question if there are any experts

826
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: out there. Okay, I don't think a massage is good

827
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: unless it hurts. Is that true? Or is that just

828
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: mean that my body needs more massage, Like I'm so

829
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: stiff that I like just need more and more and more.

830
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: I think it probably varies for people, because actually one

831
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: of our friends is so sensitive. But I think it's

832
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: what I've realized is I think that the more inflammation

833
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: you have in your body, because when I have more

834
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: inflammation happening, I'm so sensitive to any sort of touch,

835
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Like for women, we can have real sensitivities based on

836
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: our cycles too, and so I don't know that, like

837
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: it's the same across the board. But I'm like you

838
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: when I have real neck issues or back issues, like

839
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: I need them to get in there and it hurts,

840
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: but you know that there's going to be good on

841
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: the other side of it, right, so you want them

842
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: to dig in. So I think it's just it depends

843
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: on the situation and the person maybe.

844
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Personally, Like I don't think that someone could give me

845
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: a hard enough massage. I really don't.

846
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, would you rather take a supplement that makes

847
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: you super gassy for a week but feel amazing after

848
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: or feel tired and blah for a month, but have

849
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: no gash.

850
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: Give me that pill.

851
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking the gas too.

852
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: All over the grocery store. I work from home. I

853
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: work from home. Let's feel great.

854
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: You release when you can excuse me.

855
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: I would make tick. I would finally get a TikTok.

856
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: Why yeah, so it could make fart videos for TikTok.

857
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh, my god, do you do that. I'm not really

858
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: on TikTok.

859
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Well, people send me fart videos all the time.

860
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: That feels on brand.

861
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: My sister loves them.

862
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Would you rather give up coffee for a year or

863
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: alcohol for a year?

864
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: Probably alcohol, me too. And I don't think I would

865
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: have said that in January, oh really, because I don't

866
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 2: think I would have believed it was possible. And after

867
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: I did, I saw I did drive February. Basically, it

868
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: was the twenty seventh of January through the twenty seventh

869
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: of February, and then I drank while I was in

870
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Montana that weekend. But I haven't had a drink since.

871
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean, granted I had COVID last week and but

872
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: like I don't miss it, like I don't really, I'm

873
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: not like drawn to drink. I'm not saying I will

874
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: never drink again. But like even if friends called and said, hey,

875
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: let's meet on a patio today, it's really nice out,

876
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: I'd go, but i'd probably order a soda water.

877
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Unless you find your ways to get around it. You

878
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: kind of were like, why did I do this so much? A?

879
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: You save a ton of money? B Like, look, if

880
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: I want to have a fun night out and want

881
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: to go get hammered, yeah I'll do that, but I'm

882
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: not just gonna go have a drink to have a drink,

883
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Like I don't see the point in it anymore.

884
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, something changed, and that's.

885
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: Not me being like going and getting hammered is healthier

886
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: than because it's probably not. But I just don't need

887
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: to constantly have the alcohol in my body.

888
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Well, once you do time without it, this is what

889
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: I always have said to you, Like, once you do

890
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: time without it, I think you realize actually how bad

891
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: it makes you feel, and so you're sort of more

892
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: picky and choosy if nothing else, like whether you're a

893
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: social drinker or whatever kind of drinker you are, if

894
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: you take the break, Like when I used to drink

895
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: more consistently, I didn't realize how bad I or how

896
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: bad I felt or looked all the time, like it

897
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: changes your skin, your face, your body, like all of it.

898
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: And if you're waking up with a subtle hangover every day,

899
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: you kind of just that's your norm and you forget

900
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: what it feels like to feel really good.

901
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I said to my trainer, like I

902
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: told him that I'd done it, and I also did

903
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: no fried food snow sweets and no wead. And the

904
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: wed thing is really what surprised me. I mean that's

905
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: been a daily for me years and years and years.

906
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: It never occurred to me that that would have been

907
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: as problematic for my body.

908
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh really, what do you notice my clarity?

909
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: I felt like I was sleeping better. And the thing

910
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: is is I think like I had convinced myself I

911
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: needed it to sleep better or I needed it to

912
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: turn my brain off, but was really what it was

913
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: doing was it was making my brain foggy and work

914
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: at weird times. And again I'm not I haven't sworn

915
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: it off forever, but I just like, don't. I don't

916
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: want it in my life the same way that I

917
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: had it, Like I wanted to like watch a really

918
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: funny movie with friends or something, you know, like do that,

919
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: but like, I don't need to book it every night

920
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: like I. To me, it was like this is my

921
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: glass of wine. That's how I justified it, and that's

922
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: not the case anymore interesting.

923
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you do seem so much more clear

924
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: and with your thoughts. I would say like, yeah, just

925
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: you're more vocal. I don't know, everything just feels more

926
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: put together. So it's obviously growing up.

927
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: Look at that, Look at me.

928
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: Okay. Would you rather have to explain to everyone you

929
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: meet why you are doing a parasite cleanse or tell

930
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: people you're micro dos and mushrooms?

931
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: I mean, the parasite cleans is a funnier conversation. That's

932
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: a weird one for me.

933
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: You're like, my stand up routine benefits more from parasite cleansing.

934
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Correct the micro dose thing. I feel like I'd be

935
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: a better salesperson at it because I feel like it

936
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: is more in tune with what I would do. Okay,

937
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: but I feel like a lot more judgment and negativity

938
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: would come yeah, for the wrong reasons, Like I don't.

939
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: I think also people will be like, why the fuck

940
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: are you doing a parasite cleanse? And I'd be like, well,

941
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 2: this is why. I know it's weird, but I wouldn't

942
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: be as embarrassed to talk about Okay, that makes sense,

943
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: worried about it. Yeah, so maybe I would say in

944
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: this case, parasite.

945
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: Is that I don't think I would be embarrassed to

946
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: talk about either.

947
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean that word guarded is probably a little bit

948
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: of a better word of it, okay, because I think

949
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: that people would just be like, you're a druggie, and

950
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: then you're like trying to explain like no, it's plant

951
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: medicine and blah blah blah, and then trying to sell

952
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: it on them, or it's at least the parasite thing.

953
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: They're just like, well, that's some weird trendy craze.

954
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, I love that we act like

955
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: we'd be embarrassed to talk about anything, yet we're on

956
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: a podcast talking about it, so obviously.

957
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: There's no embarrassing.

958
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's really not that much. Okay. Would you rather

959
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: have perfect gut health but never eat pizza again, or

960
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: have perfect skin but never drink wine again?

961
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: Probably the skin.

962
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: The hard thing for me is I don't eat pizza already. Yeah,

963
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm like that. I know it's an easy thing for

964
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: me to give up. I mean, every now and again,

965
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: I will, Like recently my boyfriend I made pizzas at

966
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: home and I did this kind of cheese that I

967
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: can eat and a gluten free crust, and it was

968
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: so good, Like I loved it. But I don't really

969
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: need pizza in my life because I've already eliminated it.

970
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: So it's an easy Like, I know that's an easy one.

971
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: But I've also cut alcohol out before, so I mean,

972
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: I know I could do that. I just I want

973
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and I want perfect skins. That's stressed.

974
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Especially now that I'm aging, is something that I'm paying

975
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: a lot more attention to. Yeah, I'm moisturized now.

976
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: It's weird that one's tough for me because I mean,

977
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: but I think everything starts in your gut too, and

978
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: so even your skin the way that looks. If you

979
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: don't have a good gut, that a lot of times

980
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: it's going to manifest in your skin. So I don't know,

981
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm going pizza on this one.

982
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: Interesting, it's the biggest organ in your body.

983
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: I do know that, which is really interesting when you

984
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: think about the product that you put on it every

985
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: day and things like that.

986
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: I only use vegan soaps and stuff.

987
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: I try to do as clean as I can too.

988
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: It's hard with makeup because as a makeup artist, I'm

989
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: not going to lie to people and say that any

990
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: sort of natural makeup works the same, Like the chemicals

991
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: are what make makeup better. So it's tough because it's like,

992
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: there are good natural brands and there's certain products that

993
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: I try to use, and if I'm being really honest,

994
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: all the ones with the chemicals work better. So it's tough.

995
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: It's a tough sell unless you're really dedicated to like

996
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: your health is the most important, you know, But if

997
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: your beauty is the most important, then the temporary like

998
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: you want it right, then that's going to be a

999
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: tough sell for me.

1000
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1001
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather do an intense mushroom journey in the

1002
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: jungle with a shaman or spend a week at a

1003
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: wellness spa with no phone, no sugar, and no caffeine?

1004
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: You know my answer?

1005
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: I feel I'm a I'm going to do that.

1006
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm going in the jungle.

1007
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: I am going to the jungle too, cause like.

1008
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: No phone, no sugar, no caffeine. I mean that's what

1009
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: we did. I think we could have our phones, but

1010
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: you try to limit them, and there's definitely spots you

1011
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't use them and stuff no sugar, no caffeine. It's

1012
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: like I would like to get to a better place

1013
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: with it, but I know the process. And then I'm

1014
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: all about like emotional journeys, which that would be what

1015
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: that is the intense mushroom journey in the jungle with

1016
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: the shampres.

1017
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Well And I also feel like the wellness spa is

1018
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: the type of thing that you break the second.

1019
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: You leave, you know, I don't think that's some point,

1020
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I know.

1021
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: But you're much more likely too, like you kind of

1022
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: go back into your old ways. I'm sure it's amazing

1023
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: for the week that you're there, and there are residual

1024
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: effects that you carry with you, but the trip with

1025
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: a shaman is something that you carry.

1026
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: For life and it can change you, like rewire you

1027
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: for real. Yeah, yes, hopefully both would have that impact.

1028
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going in the jungle. I think a

1029
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: lot of people though you'd be surprised at how many

1030
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: people would be scared of that, Like, are they're scared

1031
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: to let go of control to like work with something

1032
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: like a psilocybin to see what comes up and just

1033
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: be present with that. A lot of people don't like

1034
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: that idea.

1035
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, a lot of people have trauma in

1036
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: their lives that they have pushed so far down that

1037
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: they're a little aware of. But they're also.

1038
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with that.

1039
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: They've lied to themselves so much about it that they

1040
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: believe their lives, you know, and that's a really scary thing,

1041
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: like you don't know how that's going to manifest itself,

1042
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: but also it's eating them from the inside. It's the

1043
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: best thing that you could ever do to get it out.

1044
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Would you rather take a mystery supplement that could make

1045
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: you feel amazing or give you explosive diarrhea or a

1046
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: stick with your same old routine. I'd take the gamble,

1047
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: you would see. I'm like, I feel pretty good on

1048
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: the day to day.

1049
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do I have to take it forever?

1050
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: Like if it gives me diarrhea, I'd stop?

1051
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: That's true. They didn't clarify. Yeah, Okay, I don't know.

1052
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: In mine, I guess it would be like take it

1053
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: for what do you want to say? A month?

1054
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I would try that. Okay, I'll be

1055
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: farting in diary in and I'll let you work.

1056
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: You better get some good candles. Would you rather have

1057
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: to wear a shirt that says ask me about my

1058
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: parasites for a week or one that says I love

1059
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: coffee enemas. That's funny.

1060
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: They're both kind of funny.

1061
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean they both lead to conversation. I like to

1062
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: ask me about my parasites because I mean you would

1063
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: get in some really interesting conversation.

1064
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: I think I do. I love coffee animas. Yeah, I

1065
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: think it's just really funny. Yeah.

1066
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Would you rather go on a fully raw diet for

1067
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: a month or do water only fast for three days?

1068
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: Water only fast for three days?

1069
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: Really? See, I would go raw for a month.

1070
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: I love water. Can I have ice? Can I chew ice? Yeah?

1071
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: But like that's the only thing you're eating?

1072
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Hmm, I would do that.

1073
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: Oh God, see I can't the no food. Like when

1074
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: I was in high school, we used to there was

1075
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: this church retreat thing we did where it was like

1076
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: we fasted. I think it was forty eight hours maybe,

1077
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: and it was to raise money for I can't even

1078
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: remember the exact cause, no it was I think we

1079
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: donated it. I think it was to children in like Africa,

1080
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: but it was a forty eight hour famine or something,

1081
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: and so it was, you know, to help conquer world

1082
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: hunger kind of thing, and he raised money for it

1083
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: and things like that. I would get a migraine every time,

1084
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: like after the first twelve hours, like my body just

1085
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: cannot do it. And my boyfriend always comments like, oh

1086
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: and how much I eat? Like I just am constantly

1087
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: kind of needing. I don't know if it's my metabolism

1088
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: or what, but I cannot not do food or it

1089
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: just really impacts me.

1090
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love water, I love ice, so i'd

1091
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: I think.

1092
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather do that, but you'd be so hungry.

1093
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Not if I got that sonic ice machine.

1094
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Would you rather live with one weird food

1095
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: allergy forever like garlic or chocolate or have to take

1096
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: ten supplements a day for life? I mean I do

1097
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: live with food allergies, so I don't know.

1098
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: I also do take ten supplements a day.

1099
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: I know, I think I would just take the ten supplements.

1100
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Although she made an interesting point because she was like,

1101
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, you go to these natura paths here and

1102
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: they're giving you a bunch of supplements, so it's not

1103
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: a pill per se as like a doctor, a medical

1104
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: doctor is giving you. But in some ways it's like

1105
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: another pill to treat another thing, versus like getting our

1106
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: bodies in line enough to heal themselves into and like

1107
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: using food as medicine and things like that. And I

1108
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: was like, that is actually something I've realized the last

1109
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: year too, because I was going to a naturopath buying

1110
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: all these supplements all the time. One it gets really expensive.

1111
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: I do think that that's a better alternative, but it's

1112
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: kind of the same idea, isn't it, Like, and still

1113
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: not really going to the root cause all the time,

1114
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: you're just throwing a pill something.

1115
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: I think some of them do go to the root call,

1116
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: like if you're like, if you have an iron deficiency

1117
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: and you're taking iron supplements, that's going to a root

1118
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: cause of something, versus a synthetic drug made in a lab,

1119
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: which is now these other things are. So that's I mean,

1120
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: it's like, my my supplements are like vitamin C, vitamin D,

1121
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 2: vitamin E, like there a goal.

1122
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Would be though to get that from food and sunlight

1123
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: and things of that nature versus taking a pill.

1124
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I get that.

1125
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: That's all. Would you rather have your body text you

1126
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: every symptom. It's feeling like constant updates or never know

1127
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: what's going on inside until it's urgent. That's a tough one.

1128
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: Tough one. I feel like I get enough texts that

1129
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: I would just want.

1130
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: To one urgency. I'm going every update. But I do

1131
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: think what would happen eventually is you've been zone out. Yeah,

1132
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: so then you might miss some of the things that

1133
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: you need to be paying attention to. But I actually

1134
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: just love the way bodies work. I think it's fascinating.

1135
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: So that's why I would lean that way.

1136
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think i'd stop rating them at a

1137
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: certain point.

1138
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, that was interesting. So if you guys took

1139
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Speaker 1: the quiz with us, email us at the Edge at

1140
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,400
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1141
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1142
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Speaker 2: I'm at chip doorsh it's Chip d O r sch.

1143
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Speaker 1: As you guys go into the weekend and you're living

1144
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Speaker 1: on the edge, I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: Ahual by