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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm Connie Willis here and I'm getting to talk to

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Speaker 1: the one and the only Ori Geller. You may have

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Speaker 1: heard of him, you may have seen him, you may

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Speaker 1: have read about him. You may have seen him and

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Speaker 1: not even known it was him. He's been all over

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Speaker 1: the place doing all sorts of things, and I heard

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Speaker 1: from him or about him basically through remote viewing and

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Speaker 1: learning that and also at QVC and the fact that

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Speaker 1: anytime somebody bends a spoon, that's kind of the ording thing.

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Speaker 1: So Ori Geller, once again, welcome to Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 1: I think we stopped you on something. I know I

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Speaker 1: got a billion questions, but I want you to go

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Speaker 1: back to where you were and finish your story. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was going back to Cyprus and Mossad that

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Speaker 1: was interested in my powers. Before that, again, I was

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Speaker 1: still pennyless. I had to work hard. That was a

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Speaker 1: construction builder. This before the army model. As you said,

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Speaker 1: I modeled everything in Israel. But then the again Mossad

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Speaker 1: got to me and they started asking me if I

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Speaker 1: can deliver them all kinds of information through I would

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Speaker 1: say I used remote viewing at that time, or telepathy,

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Speaker 1: extra sensive perception. So they were so amazed by the

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Speaker 1: two years that I have worked for them, but they

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Speaker 1: did not understand how I was doing what I was doing,

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Speaker 1: So they basically called up the CIA and they asked

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Speaker 1: of Israel in nineteen seventy two straight to Stanford Research Institute,

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Speaker 1: which is Stanford University now, and they started testing me,

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Speaker 1: validating my abilities, my powers. And from the Stanford Research

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Speaker 1: Institute that was taken to the Lawrence Livermore Radiation Labs

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Speaker 1: that's where they build nuclear weapons. I won't go into

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Speaker 1: what exactly I was asked to do there, but from

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Speaker 1: American Naval Surface Weapons Center in Baltimore. So I had

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Speaker 1: in the early seventies all the way up to the eighties.

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Speaker 1: And like you say, remote viewing is something that many

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Speaker 1: governments use today to derive to extract information that their

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Speaker 1: sophisticated satellites or other means of espionage cannot deliver. So

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Speaker 1: that was my undercovered kind of secret career. Parallel to that, Connie,

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a beginning pig again. I

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Speaker 1: my mother to America. I wanted to buy car. I

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Speaker 1: TV shows and yeah, I guess I became very well

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Speaker 1: known around the world. I don't I still don't understand

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Speaker 1: how I managed to instill spoon bending into world culture.

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Speaker 1: Me either a good job, that was fantastic. I know

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Speaker 1: that I might be now sound, I might sound like

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Speaker 1: I'm showing off, But Georgia, he played me, Robert diniro

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Speaker 1: played me. The Matrix has a whole spoon bending sequence.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that how rather a trivial demonstration of mind

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Speaker 1: And you know some of the things that you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: like when you were talking about the military bringing you over,

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Speaker 1: you know, working with them and them asking you all

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Speaker 1: amazing to me that when when they see there's this talent,

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Speaker 1: you did have those dreams come true. Yeah. First of all, Connie,

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Speaker 1: just went along because of the ideological reasons. But there

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Speaker 1: is one amazing, amazing experiment that has been conducted in

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Speaker 1: the early seventies, the NSA feared of psychic nukes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was you know, there was another NSA document and

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Speaker 1: the section concluded again with a note because these are

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Speaker 1: The note said that there had supposedly been a successful

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Speaker 1: And now this is the mind blowing thing. And this

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Speaker 1: many other wonderful things you can do with it that

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Speaker 1: probably you don't even still know, even as long as

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Speaker 1: you've been doing it. Of course. Look, you know, throughout

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Speaker 1: lot of positive stuff. The Americans, for instance, wanted me

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Speaker 1: And telepathy does work. I mean, what's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: We all have telepathy. Yeah, yeah, there's no question about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So let me just ask you real quick here with telepathy.

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Speaker 1: Now I know you have the PK, you can move things.

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Speaker 1: You've moved things. It's been very fun to watch some

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Speaker 1: watch them. They're they're exciting. People have pulled you into

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Speaker 1: to answer them all. What you're talking about now, Connie

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Speaker 1: They're throwing that negative, horrible vibe out, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you're feeling every bit of it because you're that open

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Speaker 1: and sensitive. When you are that way, that's that's when

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Speaker 1: you hear the telepathy. That's when you hear those things.

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Speaker 1: And that let me ask you about okay, with telepathy now,

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Speaker 1: now PK, you can move things. Telepathy to me is

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Speaker 1: conversation back and forth without words and lips moving. Yes.

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Speaker 1: The first test that I went through where CIA, of course,

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Speaker 1: they were in Stanford where I would be locked in

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Speaker 1: a shielded room, and scientists would draw drawings, either in

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Speaker 1: their homes or in other rooms in Stanford, and my

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Speaker 1: task was to duplicate those drawings through telepathy. There was

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Speaker 1: also a CIA agent in Langley, Virginia called Kid Green,

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Speaker 1: who I guess he wanted to see for himself. Now,

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Speaker 1: remember we're talking about the early seventies. There were no

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Speaker 1: mobile phones. There is no FaceTime, there was no Instagram,

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Speaker 1: there was no Twitter. We're talking about an old fashioned phone.

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Speaker 1: So he called up from Langley, Virginia, CIA headquarters and

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Speaker 1: he was holding something in his hand and he said, well,

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Speaker 1: or if you can, if you claim that you can

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Speaker 1: see things from Afar, what am I holding in my hand?

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Speaker 1: And I described it exactly, And not only I described

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Speaker 1: the picture, but I said, I'm feeling something very strong.

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Speaker 1: The word architectural is coming in very strong. And I

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Speaker 1: think Kid greened that second freaked out because he has

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Speaker 1: written the word architectural on that page of the open book.

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Speaker 1: So that was such powerful telepathy. Listen to more Coast

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