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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast

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Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazier.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited about today's guests. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: want to talk about rock stars, unbelievable and not in

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Speaker 2: the form of the rock stars like the Guy Fieres

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Speaker 2: and the Brett Michaels Reed had on those two rock stars.

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Speaker 2: Would be dying to talk to our two rock stars today.

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Speaker 2: But before I get to them, if you're like many people,

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Speaker 2: you may be surprised to learn that one in five

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Speaker 2: adults in this country experienced mental illness last year. Get

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Speaker 2: far too many failed to receive the support they need. Caroline,

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Speaker 2: behavioral health is doing something about it. They understand the

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Speaker 2: behavioral health is a key part of whole health, delivering

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Speaker 2: compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social needs

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Speaker 2: and tandem, Carolyn, behavioral health raising the quality of life

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Speaker 2: through empathy and action.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Like I said.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a mental health podcast that I

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Speaker 2: think leads to mental wealth if we can kind of

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Speaker 2: tap into a lot of things that hand that life

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Speaker 2: has fed us.

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Speaker 3: There's two ways we can go.

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Speaker 2: The way that Jeff and Johnny Agar have gone have

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Speaker 2: been absolutely unbelievable, and these two cats really show us

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Speaker 2: there's nothing we can't do. I see what these guys

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Speaker 2: have done already. I don't know what they can't do.

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Speaker 2: So with that, I want to welcome and Jeff and

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Speaker 2: Johnny Agar. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 4: Hey do you tod ain't good to hear from you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having us on, Jamie Wally appreciate absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: Now for people who don't know, because this is also

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Speaker 2: more an audio show, Pops once you kind of tell

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Speaker 2: us you know your story with you and your son,

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Speaker 2: you guys are I'm not gonna do it right If

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Speaker 2: I try to, that'd be louder sometimes, you know what

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Speaker 2: you gotta know what to lay out.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to lay out here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So, uh, you know when I was like when

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Speaker 6: I was younger, I played baseball. A lot of it

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Speaker 6: was I threw hard, but I had very little athletic

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Speaker 6: ability outside of that. Yeah, and I didn't have to

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Speaker 6: run much in baseball, which is great, so it fit

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Speaker 6: perfectly for me. But later on, after we had Johnny

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Speaker 6: and he had an opportunity about fifteen years ago to

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Speaker 6: do a triathlon with some local group called My Team

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Speaker 6: Triumph that takes kids that are special needs and runs

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Speaker 5: Johnny's got cerebral palsy.

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Speaker 6: He was born prematurely at twenty nine weeks, three pound

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Speaker 6: seven ounces. Within a couple of weeks, diagnosed was ferebral palsy,

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Speaker 6: and we were told he would probably never walk and

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Speaker 6: probably would never talk as well. So that was a

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Speaker 6: big shock to us, not only the premature piece of things,

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Speaker 6: were even getting ourselves into.

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Speaker 2: Do you know, like Johnny wants to chime in here

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Speaker 2: real quick on this and say, like, hold on a second, here,

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Speaker 2: I got something to say.

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Speaker 4: But I've been never put any limitations on me. They

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Speaker 7: That you know that a No More kid does in life,

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Speaker 7: and so I was very thankful for that. And they

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Speaker 7: always taught me, you know, I had to work hard

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Speaker 4: And so I had always watched sports.

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Speaker 7: Sports was always the way that you know, I could

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Speaker 7: always taught me that, you know, Johnny, if you want

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Speaker 7: Steve Eisman or Robert Porchet for the Lions.

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Speaker 7: Always something that I really enjoyed and really caught onto me.

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Speaker 7: And because I go to therapy every day, uh eight hours,

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Speaker 6: and that's what his whole approach was, Hey, I'm working

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Speaker 3: But then you decide to take it to a different level.

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Speaker 6: Debt, Yeah, kind of decided for me. So I wasn't

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Speaker 6: a whole different deal, right, So that's where he kind

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Speaker 5: So we started.

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Speaker 6: Doing some five k runs together. So I thought, well,

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Speaker 6: it turns out you really should train for these things.

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Speaker 6: The first time just brutal. I didn't train at all.

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Speaker 6: The second race we did and him, yeah, I'm pushing

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Speaker 6: But our second race at an eighty year old power walker.

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Speaker 6: and I thought, we're going to do more of these races.

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Speaker 5: I have got to do a lot more training. She

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Speaker 5: But it was a very humble beginning.

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Speaker 6: So if anybody ever tells you I can never do that, hey,

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Speaker 6: I went from from zero to where we are today yet.

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Speaker 5: To have the right motivation.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, you've probably seen this too, right, people can

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Speaker 6: He's been a motivation for a lot of people. But

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Speaker 6: if you find what motivates you that gets you over

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Speaker 2: Tell me the feeling for both of you the first

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Speaker 7: It was such a feeling of accomplishment because you know,

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Speaker 7: it's really really something special every day, every time, and

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Speaker 7: Man transthmon, it really is something special and I never

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Speaker 3: Shows you, man, look how much this man loves me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 7: I've never met as as good as you in a

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Speaker 6: I have many times thought, you know, Johnny, couldn't you

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Speaker 5: I might get a paper once a little while, that

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Speaker 2: But when did you then decide all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: What does that look like? You know?

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Speaker 5: For me, it was an evolution of things.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, when you start hanging around you've

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Speaker 5: And so we did, and then I would always say count.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've kind of hit my that's my physical

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Speaker 6: I've you know, twenty five k, fifteen miles.

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Speaker 6: Then someone in our group says, well, you've done a

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Speaker 3: Is that someone of your group sitting next to you.

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Speaker 6: No, he'd be sitting there even though I like this

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Speaker 6: telling them, you know, yeah, I encourage my dad to

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Speaker 6: to that Johnny, it's just physically not possible. I don't

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Speaker 6: you know the power of someone telling you something's there's

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Speaker 6: it opens up your mind to think, wow, maybe I

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Speaker 5: And so that's how.

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Speaker 6: It was for me, Rather than someone's saying you're never

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Speaker 5: Got me to take the next step and keep training

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Speaker 2: How did the swimming part get involved, because now that's

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Speaker 2: the last part that's the Ironman triath a triathlon's.

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Speaker 3: Put in the swimming part.

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Speaker 2: How did that part, that last piece of the puzzle

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so really it was taken after Rick and Dick White,

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Speaker 6: And Dick would pull his son Rick in a boat,

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Speaker 6: and so in my Team Triumph group that we had

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Speaker 6: So the swimming is actually the easiest part. And you

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Speaker 6: way and it's the easiest and shortest of the three.

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Speaker 6: You swim two point four miles, takes about an hour

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Speaker 8: For a full iron Man, but it kind of just

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Speaker 5: We never were to dream to you'd be able to

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Speaker 6: And so with the group he's in at the Conductive

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Speaker 2: And I hope that you write a book then, because really,

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Speaker 3: We could all learn from you.

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Speaker 5: It was endorsed by Michael Phelps, So I thank you.

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Speaker 2: Played off of last thing with the book, Johnny, you

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Speaker 3: We couldn't go seventeen minutes without fighting. You fight?

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Speaker 6: now he gets his chance to go in. Uh, that

444
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 6: to me is the most gratifying. Then getting over the

445
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 6: finish line.

446
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 5: Is it's just really cool to stop.

447
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 6: But when we're strapping Johnny in and now he gets

448
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 6: to actually take over, he gets to become the athlete,

449
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 6: that is the piece that's the most gratifying for me.

450
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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning has opened up a door for you guys

451
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: to actually compete in the actual try, you know, the

452
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: iron Man triathlete out in Hawaii.

453
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, how cool is that? Right? No doubt that was amazing. Listen,

454
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: when I saw Peyton come on on there, I was like, oh, no, crying.

455
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: Now you could see look I know Peyton well.

456
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: You could see in his voice he was so genuinely

457
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: excited to announce this to you.

458
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: There was nothing but authenticity.

459
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 4: There, good, good, gad, I wrote, look up to him.

460
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 7: You know just how he carries himself, and just you

461
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 7: know how much how much fun he has playing the game,

462
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 7: and how much fun he had off the field too.

463
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 7: I really see a lot of myself and him, And

464
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Speaker 7: so just to have him announced that we're going back

465
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 7: next year to what we consider our super Bowl, really

466
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Speaker 7: really an awesome feeling, because you know, he's one of

467
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Speaker 7: the athletes that I look up to as a child,

468
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 7: and so you know, it was kind of a to

469
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 7: have him announced that we're going back to our super

470
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 7: Bowl was really a full circum moment, and I was

471
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 7: so shocked and so thankful for the opportunity just to

472
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 7: be able to have the.

473
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Speaker 3: When when is that? When is that that Iron Man?

474
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Speaker 5: It's a late October of twenty twenty.

475
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 6: Four, twenty four, Yes, Johnny Staff, Peyton Manning's jersey hanging

476
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 6: on his wall for the longest time. So it's really

477
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 6: a wild thing to to have Peyton Manning be the

478
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Speaker 6: one to announce we're going back to the iron Man

479
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Speaker 6: World Championship.

480
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Speaker 3: So when will you start training for this?

481
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 5: In October twenty three months.

482
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 6: Ago Bally, Yeah, it's a uh it's a huge effort.

483
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 6: So you know, while we finished in Ironman, the one

484
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 6: in Hawaii, that's that's the World Championship. It's it's called

485
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 6: the most brutal one day endurance event on the planet.

486
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 5: So what makes a difference in the other ones? Crazy steep,

487
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 5: So the steepness is really hilly for the bike. The

488
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 5: uh your bike through the lava fields of Hawaii, so

489
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 5: it's well.

490
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 6: Over one hundred degrees, it's super super hot, and then

491
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Speaker 6: it's crazy windy with us some of the winds coming

492
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 6: off the ocean, so you'll see riders leaning into the

493
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 6: wind so they don't fall down. So it's it's so

494
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 6: much more difficult.

495
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Speaker 5: Than any others.

496
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Speaker 6: Just the level of extreme so like strength has to

497
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 6: be dramatically better than it was back then.

498
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: See if you have any tips on like strength.

499
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Speaker 6: I'm all for any of your listeners that can help

500
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 6: me build like strain, but I have to have an

501
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 6: endurance level and a like strength level, and an overall

502
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 6: fitness level beyond what we've ever done and I'm at

503
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 6: sixty years old, so there's there's a lot.

504
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Speaker 5: That goes into it. So we've been training in the Hope,

505
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 5: so we got invited, but there's there's a lot of

506
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Speaker 5: effort has to.

507
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Speaker 3: Go into it.

508
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Speaker 4: But we're excited for the job.

509
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: Oh for sure.

510
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we really appreciate iron Man giving us the opportunity

511
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 6: Payon Manning delivering the message to us and CBS mornings

512
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 6: to the ones to get it to us.

513
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Speaker 2: How many hours a day goes into this training? And

514
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: do you give yourself rest days?

515
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

516
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 6: See, you rest one day a week, but typically you're

517
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 6: leads doing one of your events or one of your exta.

518
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 6: You get one sabbath yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like a Monday.

519
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 6: But I mean I'm swimming and running typically on one

520
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 6: of the days, and then like one time in the morning,

521
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 6: run a night four days a week.

522
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Speaker 5: Uh, then you also do running three days a week.

523
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 5: Strength training.

524
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 6: I do yoga classes for stretching and flexibility all that stuff.

525
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 5: So then and then nutrition is.

526
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: Like the fourth leg of traft and so uh, there's

527
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 6: like six major areas of things you got to focus on.

528
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: I think sleep will have to be in there too.

529
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Speaker 5: Sleep is a portion of it not enough. And I

530
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: work full time as well, right, you work for I've

531
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 5: got a job to so so you work for a

532
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: great company.

533
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Speaker 3: You saying you work forty hours a week, fifty hours week?

534
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, in that right, eighty hours a week.

535
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: Now, so how many hours a day? How many hours

536
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: are day training outside of work?

537
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm training at least two hours a day, and

538
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 6: then sometimes three or four. Then the weekends or when

539
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 6: you do your long runs and long bikes, so then

540
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 6: it could be seven, eight, nine hours of training on

541
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Speaker 6: a given day.

542
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: So it's a hit the lifestyle commitment.

543
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 6: I only, for example, if I want to watch the Lions,

544
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 6: I guess they're getting better. Johnny keeps telling me, so Lions,

545
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 6: I always time it where might do an indoor bike

546
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 6: ride while the game's on it he is always only

547
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 6: on when I'm doing some kind of a training event

548
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 6: with us.

549
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: You coordinate everything that way.

550
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 7: And then with my training, my my aunt and uncle.

551
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 7: It's family affair here, so my aunt and uncle help

552
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 7: me with my with my training, in my walking and

553
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 7: the help me stretch and everything. My aunt is an

554
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 7: occupation of therapist, So it really works out that way.

555
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 7: But you know, it really helped.

556
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 9: Me to be able to do something every day, because again,

557
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 9: you know, if I'm doing therapy pretty much every day

558
00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 9: to strengthen my muscle and everything, then I'm getting better.

559
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 7: And so the supports is kind of my way of

560
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 7: waking up, but in a fun way, and it's making

561
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 7: my doctors happy.

562
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: In the fact, clearly making.

563
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: You happy, which is great. Last couple of questions for

564
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: you start from dad to son. Okay, what's the biggest

565
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: thing you've learned from him during this time.

566
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good question.

567
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 6: I think just being able to overcome obstacles and having

568
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 6: a good attitude about it when you're doing it.

569
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: It's you know, Ironman training.

570
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 6: Is really really an individual activity a lot of times,

571
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 6: and there's you're constantly trying to do better, but failure

572
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 6: is kind of part of the whole process a lot

573
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: of times. And I've learned a lot from Johnny about

574
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 6: not letting failure standing her way. So, just to give

575
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 6: an example, when we didn't we actually participated in the

576
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 6: iron Man World Championship in twenty sixteen. We got invited

577
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 6: when we were so earlier in our iron Man career,

578
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 6: we didn't know what we didn't know, and so we

579
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 6: were horribly ill prepared, but we got halfway through the

580
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: bike and we missed the bike cut off. So, you know,

581
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 6: I looked at it as a pretty sizeable failure. Only

582
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 6: a million people watched this, you know, fail on national TV,

583
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 6: so kind of a big negative. But my wife much

584
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: more positive than I am, a super super supportive of it,

585
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 6: and she said.

586
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: Something good is going to come out of this.

587
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 6: At the time, I wasn't quite as sure that something

588
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 6: good was going to come out of it, but some

589
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 6: amazing things have happened because of that. We kept working,

590
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 6: kept training, trying to do more and more and really

591
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 6: made the failure into something and so it led to

592
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 6: them writing their book, Johnny having a relationship more with

593
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 6: Michael Phelps and under Armer.

594
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: He was actually in a commercial with Michael Phelps in.

595
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 6: Michigan and then in a commercial with the Rock Duayne

596
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: Johnson too, a notable guy. And so had we made

597
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 6: it in Hawaii that first time through those other things

598
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 6: never would have happened because there had been no reason

599
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 6: for us to keep pushing it. And the last piece

600
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 6: said I'll kind of tie together is that Johnny's a

601
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 6: motivational speaker.

602
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 5: He's done a lot of speeches so far to groups

603
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 5: from one hundred to.

604
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 6: Seven thousand, and a lot of his messages to people

605
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 6: that you know what, failure is just part of the process.

606
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 6: You got to keep working, keep overcoming, learning from things.

607
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 6: And the reality is if we'd made it the first time,

608
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 6: people would have said, well, that guy was an athlete

609
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 6: and it should wasn't that hard. But I wasn't an

610
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 6: endurance athlete, and it is brutally hard to get through

611
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 6: an iron managed. So we finally got through on a

612
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 6: sixth try. Shows that overcoming obstacles and failure along the

613
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 6: way is just part of the process, and we are

614
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 6: so much better off today than we would have been

615
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: had we made it through ConA the very.

616
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Speaker 5: First time through. And great things have happened to Johnny

617
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: because of that. So my wife was right. You know,

618
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: he took a lot of years to figure out that

619
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Speaker 5: she was right on these things.

620
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Speaker 3: Two things you know I take from that one, adversity

621
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Speaker 3: is a gift.

622
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Most people run away from it instead of figuring, Okay,

623
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: we'll got knocked out.

624
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: Let's figure out what's going to take to overcome it.

625
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: That's what leads to greatness.

626
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: And you did exactly that you ran to it instead

627
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: of saying, well, I can't do this, I'm just gonna

628
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: go I'm gonna transfer school.

629
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna quit this job. I'm gonna quit this school. Right,

630
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: that's not the mindset you guys had. So that I love.

631
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: And the other part is I try and tell this

632
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people I work with also, Man, you

633
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: never know what luck like why things happen in life,

634
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: but you don't know why he was born with this

635
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: and will drive you crazy.

636
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't know why good.

637
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Things happen to bad people, who bad things happen to

638
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: good people, And if you try and figure out, I'll

639
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: drive you crazy.

640
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: Just take life for how.

641
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: It is and try and find the good and the

642
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: blue in life and let's go after That's absolutely so

643
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: let's switch to you. So what has been the biggest

644
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: lesson you've learned from that?

645
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 10: I think, you know, just I think the love Dad

646
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 10: has for me, in the length in which she's willing

647
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 10: to go through to prove.

648
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Speaker 4: That to me is really really.

649
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 7: A lot, and not not every son has the opportunity

650
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 7: to see that, and so.

651
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm very thankful. And also just the consistency.

652
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 7: What it takes to do something if you want to

653
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 7: if you want to be great at something, you know

654
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Speaker 7: what it.

655
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Speaker 4: Takes to be able to do that.

656
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 7: Because because Dad was never a swim, bikeer, runner, So

657
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 7: you know, I get to see that nothing motive. Somebody

658
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 7: that wasn't an athlete and now has become something it's

659
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 7: now has become an athlete himself, is really really something

660
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Speaker 7: special and I'm I'm so grateful for it because it

661
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 7: really helped me again understand, you know, if you want

662
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 7: to be good at something, you can't just say I'm here.

663
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Speaker 4: You know if I was you know, watch Lions on TV.

664
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Speaker 7: You know they can't just say I'm gonna suit up

665
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 7: and watch I'm gonna suit up and play a game.

666
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: You know, there's working, everything goes into it.

667
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: And so.

668
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: That has taught me so much and and it's loved

669
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: me so much.

670
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 7: I'm so grateful before it and and I really can't

671
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 7: thank him enough.

672
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: And I'm so great.

673
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 6: For Johnny to give things to try, and and that's

674
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: what got us to even take on the iron Man

675
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 6: World Champions the first time, where NBC and iron Man

676
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 6: offered us to uh to go and it'd be hypocritical

677
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 6: to say to Johnny's whole life, hey, you need to

678
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: get things to try.

679
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: You may not you know, I may not succeed, but

680
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: you've got to try.

681
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 6: And then for us to then turn around and say, well,

682
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do that because we're probably not gonna

683
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 6: make it. So we've tried to encourage him, especially my

684
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 6: wife has and uh, and I'm trying to support that

685
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 6: as well, that Johnny can do things you never thought possible.

686
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 6: But it's gonna take a lot of work and there's

687
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 6: gonna be failure along the way. But it's been, Uh,

688
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: it's been a good thing to try to do. And

689
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: you know, we've tried to go out of our way

690
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: not to put limitations in front of Johnny. It took

691
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: us a long time before we would say that he

692
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: had circle polsy.

693
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: We would just say, you know that he wasn't. We

694
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: never used the word normal, even though he does once

695
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: in a while.

696
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: We always say I am freaking normal South.

697
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: It's typical a certain way, but normal is not a

698
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 6: word that we took that we like to to use

699
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: very often, just because it sets up the negative things

700
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: are going to happen or something something wrong. And when

701
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: he decided he wanted to walk a mile, Like my

702
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 6: evolution was step by step along the way. He decided

703
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: to walk a mile, he'd only walk twenty three steps

704
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 6: in therapy school, and so that'd be like you or

705
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: I walk into the mailbox and our next goal was

706
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 6: a marathon.

707
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: Right, it's just just a crazy level just doesn't happen.

708
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 6: But you've probably seen people that hugely ambitious goals, and

709
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 6: what happens is the wheels of activity and people start

710
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: coming around you when you start attracting. It's that that

711
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 6: law of magnets doesn't right where you start attracting.

712
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 5: Things to help you achieve that goal.

713
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: So sometimes in an audacious goal, is is good to

714
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 6: go after.

715
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: Mine were very incremental.

716
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: But this has been a huge for us to see

717
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 6: two different approaches to get to, you know, a similar

718
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: type of endpoint, one step by step and then Johnny's

719
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 6: setting a massive goal and finding a way to get there.

720
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Johnny, I think you also seen, you know, a God's

721
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: sacrifice for you, for your love that to me makes

722
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: you one of the richest dudes in the world.

723
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: I'm very thankful, and.

724
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 7: You know I want That's one of the things that

725
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 7: I tried to do in my motivation speaking and trying

726
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 7: to help people understand is you know, I try to

727
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 7: teach them some of the lessons that my parents have

728
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 7: taught me, because you know, what good is the lesson

729
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 7: that you've been taught if it's not given to other people.

730
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 7: So that's what I tried to do, and the basis

731
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: and what doing to the day.

732
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: Being service absolutely being of services huge to help us

733
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: between the years. Last question for you both. I always

734
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: ask every one of.

735
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: My my guests, what is the one moment that could

736
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: have broken you and didn't and you came through the

737
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: other side of that tunnel stronger as a result your

738
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: unbreakable moment.

739
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 7: Well, I think for me it was it was not

740
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 7: making Cone in twenty and sixteen, because you know, it

741
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 7: really showed me the whole athlete experience and that you

742
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 7: have to fail out in order to learn how to succeed.

743
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 7: And so that was something that was very, very beneficial

744
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 7: for me in the end. I learned a lot from

745
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 7: that experience and just seeing how hard be able to

746
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 7: have this opportunity now and.

747
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: That well, so similar to that, but you know, I mean,

748
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 6: not finishing in ConA the first time was a huge setback,

749
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: but then we kept hoping we'd get invited back knowing

750
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: a lot more, understanding more of what it takes the train,

751
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 6: And so it went year after year, or we would

752
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 6: try a different Ironman event to kind of show we

753
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 6: could get through one, and so we failed a total

754
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 6: of five times.

755
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: We had weird things happened.

756
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 6: One year is one hundred degrees on the on the

757
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: bike portion and we didn't make the cutoff. Another we

758
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 6: had forty miles of a flat tire and his chariot

759
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 6: where we didn't realize it was like that. We just

760
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 6: thought it was wy windy. We had a huge downpour

761
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: of rain all thought the bike in another race just crazy.

762
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 6: And one we got a bike crash, someone slammed into

763
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 6: us accidentally. And we've had weird things happen along the way.

764
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 6: So every time you start thinking, man, I just don't

765
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: know if it's in the cards for us to do it.

766
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 6: So that was, you know, my moments were a long,

767
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: long period of time when you just don't know if

768
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 6: you're actually gonna get through to the finish line. And

769
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 6: I keep leaning back on something Johnny said when we

770
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 6: first time we didn't make it through through Kona NBC

771
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 6: was recording and they said, you know, they came up

772
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 6: to Johnny and said, you know, basically, what do you

773
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 6: think after we got pulled off the race? And he said, well,

774
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 6: sometimes you win, sometimes.

775
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: You learn, and that's exactly and I thought I didn't

776
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 5: know he'd said it. I was hilarious at that point.

777
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: But it's really a really cool way to look at

778
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: things that if you.

779
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 6: Look at everything as a learning opportunity, you know, we're

780
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 6: so much better off having learned along the way and

781
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 6: now leading up to trying to get back to ConA.

782
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 6: Now we have a lot more experience. Yes I'm older,

783
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: but you get a lot more experience, a lot better training,

784
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 6: a lot better equipment, And to make it now would

785
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: show that, you know, you know Ironman's mantras, anything is possible,

786
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 6: and us getting through you know what, would seem to

787
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 6: be pretty impossible if we make it. It kind of

788
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 6: feeds into that whole thing anything is possible the right

789
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: amount of hard work, attitude, and the right motivation.

790
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: Right, So I think it's we're better suited now than

791
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: we are back then.

792
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 6: And so that was any any one of those things

793
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 6: along the way, we kind of could have said, you

794
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 6: know what that it's not in the cards for us

795
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 6: to get through one of these Iron Man events. That's

796
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 6: we've done a pretty decent job, but let's kind of

797
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 6: stop here. And so it was a string of unbreakable

798
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: moments that have gotten us where we are here today,

799
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: and so we're very focused now on taking everything we've

800
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 6: learned and getting through ConA next year in October.

801
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: Didn't break, it just made you stronger. And man, I

802
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: want to say that you.

803
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: Guys have a definitely fan hear me for the two

804
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: of you now, But more so I would like say

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: a friend, go, oh, man, if I can get I

806
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: know it's during football season October twenty twenty four, but

807
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: if I can get out there somehow some way and

808
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: be there at the finish line of cheer you on,

809
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: my ass will be standing right there for me.

810
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: Oh I see.

811
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: If I could do that.

812
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: Right, that would be awesome. That'd be fantastic.

813
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: And I really appreciate your time tonight.

814
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: Thanks Jay, We appreciate thank you so much.

815
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: Gan, I appreciate it.

816
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: I just I really you know, like I said, you

817
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: ever trying for your life out and you know there's

818
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: certain people put in your life that God puts in

819
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: your life to to learn certain things from, and today

820
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: was a day where it was just a day to

821
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: learn that, Hey, I'm just a happy guy today listening

822
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: to these two.

823
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate how much you will both He'll be today.

824
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: Appreciate it very much