Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make a horrible decisions.
Speaker 2: Well it's a bonus.
Speaker 1: Bitch, y'all, we are on our bonus episode.
Speaker 3: Jay y'all have to join us for another one one day.
Speaker 3: But I have to talk about how I met Jay.
Speaker 1: Okay, a Keen walks in my house, a Keen woods
Speaker 1: and he's on the phone talking about somebody with his
Speaker 1: other friend.
Speaker 2: And this is how I loved.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, he'll be great on horrible.
Speaker 1: You know when you don't need to know someone and
Speaker 1: you jump into the marble. Keen walks in and was like,
Speaker 1: so basically he's not even coming out to his wife.
Speaker 1: It's going to bathroom, pays me the phone with Jay.
Speaker 1: Now me and Jay talking, Yeah, And he was like,
Speaker 1: that's how they be, girl. We don't know each other's
Speaker 1: name nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were we were ruining some poor man's
Speaker 4: life because of decisions.
Speaker 5: He also, wait a second, one of y'all were fucking married.
Speaker 4: I was not mad. I mean, not a married man,
Speaker 4: but he's my man, my married man. But that's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So this was a conversation about somebody fucking on somebody marl.
Speaker 4: Someone, Uh, people were we hopped in the mystery machine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so the gang discovered that someone was pulling some capers.
Speaker 4: So what happened is our mutual friend I came found
Speaker 4: out that someone who was very straight and kind of
Speaker 4: not super public facing because we don't know how far
Speaker 4: their career is going to take off, but public facing
Speaker 4: enough that I was like, wait a second, married and straight,
Speaker 4: but hanging out at the party at these particular gay shenanigans. Okay,
Speaker 4: all right, interesting and the.
Speaker 1: Wife listen, let's just say I ain't gonna say well ethnicity.
Speaker 1: When I saw the wedding, it was one of the
Speaker 1: weddings that'd be a few days.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that.
Speaker 2: It's an arranged marriage, and she's a beard.
Speaker 4: See and because that particular demographic does grow beards very well.
Speaker 4: I say that negatively and literally I agree.
Speaker 5: You know, because me and my friend have had this
Speaker 5: that's a good Hollywood marriage. But also not only that,
Speaker 5: she could be lesbian and her culture doesn't accept it.
Speaker 3: So that works great way for arranged marriages to go.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would make sense in today's world.
Speaker 4: Especially lavender marriages, especially when you lavender marriages. That was
Speaker 4: huge in like early twentieth century, mid twentieth century, like
Speaker 4: a lesbian and a man who just couldn't find the
Speaker 4: right girl would eventually marry for I mean that happened
Speaker 4: with one of the most famous marriages, like that. It
Speaker 4: was Harlem Renaissance, was it County Color or was it
Speaker 4: Bruce Nuga there was, Like there have been multiple instances
Speaker 4: throughout American history where a gay man and a sapphic woman,
Speaker 4: or like just a woman who was bisexual, or just
Speaker 4: a woman who wanted to get married and get her
Speaker 4: dad and her family off her back. She goes, I'm
Speaker 4: married this gay man. Y'all gonna be happy, and that's it.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I was just looking at a marriage.
Speaker 5: I was just looking up and I don't remember which
Speaker 5: empire because I like looking into like the Dynasty, the
Speaker 5: Roman Empire, all these things, and there's a lot of
Speaker 5: kings that literally would have just straight gay orgies, even
Speaker 5: though they're a queen, even though they have children, and
Speaker 5: they're really.
Speaker 2: Into gay orgies.
Speaker 5: And it's just like, but again, batter sexuality, especially knowing
Speaker 5: that there was such a religious ordeal and so many
Speaker 5: of these uh empires and parts of the world nigga.
Speaker 2: They wasn't just letting you be a gay ass king queen.
Speaker 4: Technical and think about it, it wasn't great technically, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't just that. It was also the fact that, like,
Speaker 4: if we're even looking at the kind of lens we've
Speaker 4: used sexuality through a modern one, that's that's so recent,
Speaker 4: long long, long ago. They will go straight or gay.
Speaker 4: These are words we haven't even like codified and said yet.
Speaker 4: All we know is, yeah, maybe you fuck guys. But
Speaker 4: what I need you to do is produce a male
Speaker 4: air so we can have another king, so we don't
Speaker 4: have to have a dance of the dragons. That's what
Speaker 4: I need. I need you to have reprince with this woman,
Speaker 4: or at least make sure that somehow she gets pregnant
Speaker 4: has a boy. That's it. After that, do whatever you
Speaker 4: want to do.
Speaker 1: If they were less homophobic, then to think about it, all.
Speaker 4: Of the Christian pre Christian societies.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, when you think of the Grecian and Roman times,
Speaker 1: of these orgies, of the culture of just homosexuality, painting, Oh.
Speaker 2: The Egyptians, that y is Roman. I do wonder if
Speaker 2: that does them?
Speaker 5: Then from hey, y'all this is not a religious podcast,
Speaker 5: but from the Christian the Christian lens which made which
Speaker 5: is also crazy because there's fucking sodomy and hantle sex
Speaker 5: in the bable too.
Speaker 4: And the King James Bible. There's rumors that King James
Speaker 4: had male lovers or a male lovers. So the King
Speaker 4: James Bible, the definitive Bible for American Christians, a gay
Speaker 4: man was like take that part out, Like, yes, there's
Speaker 4: very substantial evidence that there's so many people throughout the
Speaker 4: history that kind of like made us be all things
Speaker 4: have to be this way. And then if we ever
Speaker 4: get to look at it through an actual queer lens
Speaker 4: and we get to go, oh, maybe Lincoln was kind
Speaker 4: of gay. But the president right before him, James Buchanan,
Speaker 4: never married, never married, had his niece do all the
Speaker 4: duties of the first lady. What do you understand how
Speaker 4: gay it is to be, like in't gonna get married? Yes,
Speaker 4: niece do all the first lady stuff. Like it's been
Speaker 4: so hidden from us as queer people, as people who
Speaker 4: grew up kind of with like Christianity as like the
Speaker 4: go to that whenever we found this stuff out, we're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, when you found out that the Greeks
Speaker 4: and the Romans not only like had gay sex, but
Speaker 4: loved gay sex. You're like, way the men right when
Speaker 4: you found out that they had like they used to
Speaker 4: in Greek times there was a shoemaker who would make
Speaker 4: pacifiers for women, but for adult women, and a pascifier
Speaker 4: was just a dildough. Are you a gay encyclopedia, No,
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not a gay encyclopedia. But like, whenever
Speaker 4: I found this stuff out, I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: If you think about anthropology, well it was it wasn't
Speaker 4: an actual passifier. It was it was to pacify her,
Speaker 4: That's what it was. It was. I mean, when you
Speaker 4: think about like queerness in time as far as like
Speaker 4: as long as humans have been around, the first queer
Speaker 4: people have been around since there have been people for sure,
Speaker 4: because we didn't set up these rules until we started
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to make sure that we
Speaker 4: could own more property or how to make sure that
Speaker 4: like we could like have someone to point out to
Speaker 4: be the blame for stuff. Because if our closest genetic
Speaker 4: ancestors that are here now are bonobos and chimps, and
Speaker 4: like chimps are part of like the like all humans
Speaker 4: like the fight, and humans like war.
Speaker 5: And chips like chimpanzee. You know what's crazy and I
Speaker 5: don't believe it.
Speaker 4: But here's a crazy.
Speaker 5: I don't believe in evolution. I don't actually I do know.
Speaker 5: I swear to God. No, but white people didn't say,
Speaker 5: y'all niggas came from monkeys.
Speaker 2: I do not believe it because.
Speaker 5: Then came from now They said they ain't come from money,
Speaker 5: they came from monkey.
Speaker 4: They just said people know how many they? Yes, black
Speaker 4: people came from It's not just us.
Speaker 1: I would also like to you know, she has two degrees. Okay,
Speaker 1: but science, but I got a science science to get
Speaker 1: that part. Wait a second, because I just saw something
Speaker 1: where they tried to say that.
Speaker 2: White people came from lizards. What no, no, no.
Speaker 5: I really thought that they said only black people came
Speaker 5: from monkeyy.
Speaker 1: I just really never seen the evolution of man. It's
Speaker 1: not even a man.
Speaker 2: That's because they don't want black people in this book.
Speaker 4: Man. No, but many we would appointed. But the point
Speaker 4: that I'm getting to is close to it. So like
Speaker 4: if Bonobo's if we Share ninety is like a Pygmy champ.
Speaker 4: But they were. They just became their own species. Eventually.
Speaker 4: Here's a crazy party. We shared ninety eighty seven percent
Speaker 4: of our DNA with them, and these animals are gay
Speaker 4: as fucky. They have sex for pleasure, they have they
Speaker 4: do tons of kind of lingis like.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I just saw I just saw eight shit
Speaker 5: in his hand and throw it at some people.
Speaker 2: Bitch, I'd be.
Speaker 4: Loving this animal video.
Speaker 2: Heat to come.
Speaker 4: No, girl, you were on the two train. That was
Speaker 4: not an eight. You were running laid here.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys about this conversation I
Speaker 1: had because it's kind of making me think about what
Speaker 1: you said about they loved gay sex.
Speaker 2: So I basically was having this.
Speaker 1: Conversation at a pool party where I'm like, yo, I'm
Speaker 1: so lucky that I got to explore my sexuality with
Speaker 1: no shame, right, Yeah, And I talked about how I said.
Speaker 1: But you know, even though like I was gay for real,
Speaker 1: having a girl having a relationship intimacy, Almost every woman
Speaker 1: I know has kissed another woman.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, if it was not for the shame that
Speaker 1: we felt as far as male homosexuality and even what
Speaker 1: women do to and that are gay, I was like
Speaker 1: men would have done it too.
Speaker 3: I'm on a full on debate with five niggas. They
Speaker 3: all play ball.
Speaker 2: They gonna lie and girl.
Speaker 1: Actually, one said, and I really appreciate it. He said, Okay,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to say. You're saying if I
Speaker 1: didn't grow up in this world, I might be gay.
Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm not saying you might be gay.
Speaker 1: But I do believe that if you never grew up
Speaker 1: in this world, you would just try to experience pleasure differently.
Speaker 2: Boom, that's all.
Speaker 3: I don't even think you may have. I kindab believe
Speaker 3: were kind of boy.
Speaker 2: Wait were they all black?
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's it. I'll even add to that. You want
Speaker 4: to know something crazy, The parameters for what they consider
Speaker 4: queer activity also kind of shift culturally and also shift
Speaker 4: with time. Because if you say, oh, hey, i'm gonna
Speaker 4: go share this porn video with my homeboys, we're gonna
Speaker 4: take turns jerking off in the computer room. But here's
Speaker 4: the crazy part. When you did it in middle school,
Speaker 4: when you did it at sleep away camp, if you saw,
Speaker 4: if you knew that, if you knew what your teammates
Speaker 4: dicks look like, that's not gay because of why why
Speaker 4: isn't that gay. Why are these interactions gay?
Speaker 2: If you're if you're just changing in a room.
Speaker 4: Talking about it, if you know about it, if you
Speaker 4: also know what attracted man looks like, if you talk
Speaker 4: about the poor and you like that's all like believe.
Speaker 2: Like does that make sex?
Speaker 4: Does that make you gay?
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you get gay.
Speaker 6: But it makes you're make you men sharing different links
Speaker 6: of sex.
Speaker 4: See, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If a man shared links of sex with.
Speaker 4: Me, you know what, hold on?
Speaker 2: And only now because he's doing it with a homeboy.
Speaker 5: No, it's not like, so let's people, I'm gonna share
Speaker 5: this because maybe I'll keep this off of the regular episode.
Speaker 5: So the nigga that I just showed you that I'm
Speaker 5: fucking he got to be primary.
Speaker 4: So okay, he got bumped up.
Speaker 5: Oh he been disappeared, couldn't find him down them back
Speaker 5: and it was still hitting like it hit five years ago.
Speaker 5: So he's a freak to where he's like man all
Speaker 5: his homeboys even though he a freaking. I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: how because a lot of men don't share what they
Speaker 5: be doing in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, I have no shame. I like women.
Speaker 2: I do this.
Speaker 5: So while we was fucking else, while we was fucking,
Speaker 5: hold on he FaceTime like three homeboys to watch, like
Speaker 5: to watch us fuck.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that puts him. That doesn't make him game.
Speaker 4: But in the lowercase, b wait, because he's okay with
Speaker 4: an audience.
Speaker 5: To me, that's voyeurism. Well, we hadn't had that conversation,
Speaker 5: so let's be very clear. As soon as he did that,
Speaker 5: I said, oh, I got a nigga that wants to
Speaker 5: watch us fuck and I.
Speaker 2: And I literally was like, can I call him?
Speaker 5: So when we had our threesome, bitch, I'm calling this
Speaker 5: nigga and he was sleep and I had to text
Speaker 5: him the next day. I was like, you said you
Speaker 5: wanted to watch Oh, when I tell you somebody gonna
Speaker 5: match my but.
Speaker 4: Nothing. We're approaching a little bit of mmm territory.
Speaker 3: I would love that.
Speaker 5: But no, he's very he's very he's very adamant. But
Speaker 5: I think that you just going to a sex club,
Speaker 5: me going to a sex club. I think he loves
Speaker 5: being watched. He doesn't care who watches him. And when
Speaker 5: I go to the sex clubs. I said that when
Speaker 5: we did our fuse thing, I really enjoy not only
Speaker 5: someone watching me, but watching others, and so to me,
Speaker 5: I think it's more He's like, nah, I like, I
Speaker 5: like an audience because I know I put in work.
Speaker 5: I do this with Jay said if crossover because.
Speaker 4: Like what I what I'm hearing is like, oh, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of freedom, there's a lot of cos, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of maturity. But then I think at that point,
Speaker 4: I want to get both of you a smack a butt,
Speaker 4: especially is he gonna smack a.
Speaker 5: But I would love it, But I don't know. We
Speaker 5: haven't gotten that far in conversation.
Speaker 3: I think you're someone that can make a man feel.
Speaker 5: So sure I'll make him suck a dick with me
Speaker 5: if I if I if, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like we can get there. But I want to
Speaker 2: ask you.
Speaker 5: I do want to ask you all a question though,
Speaker 5: because because we talk about this a lot, I feel
Speaker 5: like we're blending kink and sexuality. Hear me out, voyeurism, exhibitionism,
Speaker 5: all these things have nothing to do with gender. They
Speaker 5: are acts within the kink okay spectrum, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It's not that I'm saying a man or
Speaker 5: woman like those are actual kink desires. Then you have
Speaker 5: the pegging, you have the anal sex, you have those
Speaker 5: things that I understand for men doing then questions your sexuality,
Speaker 5: but something like voyeurism, something like maybe slapping, doing all that,
Speaker 5: How would that lend you to question the sexuality when
Speaker 5: actually that's just the I think.
Speaker 1: We are not the people to ask. I think we
Speaker 1: all feel open like no. But this is because the
Speaker 1: question for the audience the conversation was the levels of
Speaker 1: get like how a man, that guy that sat in
Speaker 1: front of me and said, Okay, if I didn't have
Speaker 1: outside influence, maybe I would have explored pleasure and not
Speaker 1: have thought this is even gay.
Speaker 2: I love that this is a chapter in our book,
Speaker 2: but I'm literally.
Speaker 1: It's basically like, I agree, that's not what he did
Speaker 1: wasn't gay. This is just for the fun of the talk.
Speaker 1: But I do think there are people that either.
Speaker 5: Don't look his faith, my over masculine and freaking out about.
Speaker 3: What they can do with another person.
Speaker 1: Some won't even like, oh, I want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: are not talking about to excuse me in the in
Speaker 1: the MMF, I don't want around another dick.
Speaker 3: Some men say that I don't even think MMF is gay.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So okay, now you're saying, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think that so many men in American society,
Speaker 4: and hopefully it's changing slowly, but surely, so many men go,
Speaker 4: if there's another penis present, we've dipped our toe in
Speaker 4: the gay pond. And what I want to let them
Speaker 4: know is that that's not the gay pond. That's the
Speaker 4: pleasure pond. That's how you are incorporating.
Speaker 2: We might quote that in the book.
Speaker 4: But you could. You could I also say, oh, this
Speaker 4: does make you go. You know what, I'm a bit
Speaker 4: more sexually free than I thought, because there's so many
Speaker 4: people who are hardliners on eighth. They're niggas that go, man,
Speaker 4: if I have to if I eat a girl out,
Speaker 4: well my back, oursh and my booty up a little bit,
Speaker 4: that's game for me. And I go, wait a second,
Speaker 4: you are a face down in.
Speaker 2: You can't be bent over. You got to be on
Speaker 2: your back way hold on. So you know why?
Speaker 5: So I literally again, for this chapter that I'm writing
Speaker 5: right now, i'm mustage reading up. So the chapter is
Speaker 5: actually about how are so there's three factors that dictate
Speaker 5: your sexuality. It's environment, it's it's environmental, biological, and psychological.
Speaker 5: So psychological is like your how your personality allows you
Speaker 5: to maybe go out. So say we're extroverts, we might
Speaker 5: be more into trying another sex because we're just more
Speaker 5: openly out talking to humans.
Speaker 2: Biological, you could be.
Speaker 5: Born gay in the womb, like there's genetics that can
Speaker 5: actually cause you to be gay. Then environmental, it's kind
Speaker 5: of like your chapter. But it's my love of New York.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like without being in this type of city,
Speaker 5: I would have been able to experience the layers of
Speaker 5: sex that I did. So I'm getting into not only
Speaker 5: the dungeon and all that, but talking about uh.
Speaker 2: Again, the environment.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, you know what, the way that black
Speaker 5: people are even able to explore kinks in sexuality, specifically
Speaker 5: men London two, they now question anything regarding their sexuality,
Speaker 5: way anything that questions black masculinity. So it's actually the
Speaker 5: way in which and if y'all listen to my phone
Speaker 5: call thing, we had a caller call in who was like,
Speaker 5: I don't like a man that has gel polished or
Speaker 5: even mannerisms if he moves his hands certain ways and.
Speaker 4: Within artist, can.
Speaker 5: We run down a list of things that we know
Speaker 5: questions a black mask, black masculinity.
Speaker 4: With if he's if he ducks and takes cover when
Speaker 4: they're shooting at.
Speaker 5: A party, if he said, if he uses any polish,
Speaker 5: if he uses if he's.
Speaker 7: A person well CarMax, if he puts too much, puts
Speaker 7: too much lotion, if he shaped, if his fingernails are clean.
Speaker 4: I mean because some people like bvuh.
Speaker 2: And I get very daily ear ring.
Speaker 4: Get I get very sad because those women are also
Speaker 4: letting patriarchy beat they last. You let in, You let
Speaker 4: in rules that had your mama and your grandmama cooking
Speaker 4: for men with three families, affect the way that you
Speaker 4: look at men who are into you, you love you,
Speaker 4: who want to do everything with you. You scared because
Speaker 4: he got a margarita because you order one too.
Speaker 2: No, it ain't the margarita beach.
Speaker 4: You don't know what to come that margarita gonna come in.
Speaker 5: No, it's it's the chair Hollo and me and the
Speaker 5: motherfucker want to eat the cherry and try to tie
Speaker 5: the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Stain with his tongue. What are we doing?
Speaker 3: You know I fucked with that nigga with a tongue ring.
Speaker 3: Who is trinny?
Speaker 1: And I was sixteen and he was like eighteen, I think,
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: really like him.
Speaker 2: This is cool. Mind you my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Now is you know Lenny Kravitz ask I always talk
Speaker 1: about because of nipple rings, gauges, even the energy and vibe,
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting, like I've wanted this man, damn it.
Speaker 1: Twenty years later, however, specifically with that guy, I remember
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I'm not going to tell my friends
Speaker 1: about his tongue ring or these piercings or his stuff
Speaker 1: about him, because then they'll know.
Speaker 2: That he's gay.
Speaker 1: But I just don't care, because as a kid, I thought,
Speaker 1: if he has it, he's gay. But I just didn't mind.
Speaker 1: And I really believed that him having these things. But
Speaker 1: where did that come from?
Speaker 2: So what I learned, oh you know, not only what
Speaker 2: you learned.
Speaker 3: Sixty two years old thinking a tongue ring made him gay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they jack got there I put
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: I don't think we realize how much an outside, the
Speaker 5: outside influence and opinions of our friends and family dictate
Speaker 5: our pleasure and what we're able to experience. Whether it's
Speaker 5: love or sex. We have a lot of people like if.
Speaker 2: I meet someone and I really like him, like even.
Speaker 5: This one, I already know, nigga's gonna be like, oh
Speaker 5: he read d D d DA, They're gonna st to say
Speaker 5: about him already know, and that's fine, that's fine. I
Speaker 5: really like this nigga. So I really like this nigga.
Speaker 5: And luckily, my friends have now just accepted that I
Speaker 5: operate on a different universe than they do with men.
Speaker 2: But also they single. I can't find a nigga.
Speaker 3: He though.
Speaker 1: You mentioned sexuality of love, there's something I didn't realize
Speaker 1: till write in this book. I'm writing this chapter about
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend, and I apologize to her in it
Speaker 1: because one of the things I realized is that my
Speaker 1: attachment to her not like I wasn't love with her
Speaker 1: or anything, but a lot of it was because she
Speaker 1: was everyone's vision of me coming out.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew I was a little gain.
Speaker 1: They maybe heard about a threesome or kids or see
Speaker 1: me with girls, were like, now I have this, Now
Speaker 1: you see it. Now we're connected, we're going on vacations together,
Speaker 1: we're sharing our families. Like she in my brain was
Speaker 1: the marker of people knowing that and the Breakchael.
Speaker 4: But also there's a crazy part I think with women
Speaker 4: particularly and we kind of brought this up earlier. Part
Speaker 4: of the reason that people even allow women to do
Speaker 4: that as much in society currently is because people don't
Speaker 4: respect lesbian people don't respect lesbian sex. It's not just lesbian,
Speaker 4: it's not just lesbian relationships because people people just people
Speaker 4: respect lesbian relationships because they go, yeah, somebody paying for
Speaker 4: something or.
Speaker 2: Some of the woman.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And they can respect gender dynamics. They can even respect
Speaker 4: long term partnerships, they can respect co parenting, or people
Speaker 4: really can't get behind because of the phallocentric nature of
Speaker 4: the way we approach sexuality sometimes in American way, well
Speaker 4: fallo centric once again, because people go, where's the dick?
Speaker 4: They go, it's in the book bag. What do you
Speaker 4: mean where the dick is? Where's the dick? The dick
Speaker 4: is in the air, the dick is in the love. Also,
Speaker 4: how many women are coming from said dick and how
Speaker 4: many women are coming from so many other things.
Speaker 2: The centric shit that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I didn't specifically use that word, but the interesting thing
Speaker 1: that I started to figure out was like I talked
Speaker 1: about how the masculinity went away from me, so I
Speaker 1: didn't think I could be with her until a bad
Speaker 1: moment happened, right my dad had a stroke and she
Speaker 1: was there for me, and I was like, oh, just
Speaker 1: that safety, and that made me think, oh, she's my
Speaker 1: man now in a very strange way, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can be with her the ways that in my brain
Speaker 1: I had to as a bisexual person.
Speaker 3: I will say this no offense to anybodysexuals. I believe this.
Speaker 1: My lesbian friends feel way more natural in their relationships
Speaker 1: in ways where my brain makes questions. I find it
Speaker 1: difficult to like navigate certain situations, whether it be paying
Speaker 1: or like being masculine in moments. And I don't think
Speaker 1: my lesbians friends have that because they don't also date men.
Speaker 1: I think they just go.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you gotta be like ash ketcherman,
Speaker 4: have your hat turned around. That's that's you putting on.
Speaker 4: I think that embodying energy from both aspects of like
Speaker 4: this gender dynamic we set up in relationships like I'm
Speaker 4: by but I'm married to a man, and people go, oh, jay,
Speaker 4: or how does that work? And I go the way
Speaker 4: that works is that I'm in a gay relationship with
Speaker 4: this man. But me as an individual, as a bisexual
Speaker 4: who's had sex with women, who has had sex with women,
Speaker 4: who's had sex with people with vaginas, who's had sex
Speaker 4: with men, there's so many scary points where people go, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not by enough, because in everyone's brain, a bisexual
Speaker 4: has to be a vampire roam in the streets, like
Speaker 4: having sex with you know, I'm in one day and
Speaker 4: a man the next day to balance it out.
Speaker 5: I hate that you just said that because that's where
Speaker 5: my mind went. My immediate question next was gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 5: so wait how no, no, no, not even how it
Speaker 5: was going to be like, so when does he let
Speaker 5: you have sex with women? Because because to me being
Speaker 5: bisexual and even within my relationship, I think that's why
Speaker 5: even now finding this partner, we had a threesome. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we just had a threeson and I'm like, oh, we're
Speaker 5: gonna have fun. We gonna do this, come up to
Speaker 5: New York and come do the sex club with me.
Speaker 5: Because I realized how much I actually do sexually need both.
Speaker 5: Now I don't want to romantically be with a woman.
Speaker 5: I only want to romantically be with a man. However,
Speaker 5: I need women, So do you need to have sex
Speaker 5: with women too?
Speaker 4: I have had my longest relationship is the one of
Speaker 4: my husband, so romantically, I have way more experience dating
Speaker 4: a man and being with a man and cohabitating with
Speaker 4: a man, but also my experiences with going on dates
Speaker 4: with women, my experiences with having sex with women, both
Speaker 4: in college post college in New York. I think that
Speaker 4: you definitely will go, oh, I'm more used to this,
Speaker 4: I have more experience with this, but I'm very much
Speaker 4: open to this. And that wasn't something you even knew
Speaker 4: you could have. I didn't even know could have that.
Speaker 4: I came out as buy in college in theater department,
Speaker 4: and everyone was like, whatever is the best place to
Speaker 4: come out? Exactly everyone knew, I say, I because, well,
Speaker 4: the crazy part is like I kissed a boy in
Speaker 4: like costuming, and I was like, this is cliche. I'm
Speaker 4: out of a closet, in a closet kissing a boy
Speaker 4: with a girl's name in a theater department, shout out
Speaker 4: to McKenzie. But I was just like this Stone. I
Speaker 4: was like, Jay, you are such a hack. Why are
Speaker 4: you doing all these things? And so my experiences have
Speaker 4: always been like, oh, we're a bit more felm coded,
Speaker 4: because like the big fear for a lot of people
Speaker 4: is they go, oh, that gay boy is tricking that
Speaker 4: woman for so long, that's the narrative, and it's like,
Speaker 4: what's going to happen? And I'm married my husband who
Speaker 4: is the love of my life, and I've been with
Speaker 4: We've been dating for thirteen years, we've been married for
Speaker 4: two years. I'm thirty six and he's thirty. He's just
Speaker 4: turned thirty one. So we met. We met my final
Speaker 4: year of undergrad and then I went to grad school.
Speaker 4: We were long distance. We're gonna let's see if this works.
Speaker 4: And then moved to New York in twenty fifteen and
Speaker 4: he came up here, and then we moved in together
Speaker 4: in September because I was here in July, and also
Speaker 4: that whole time, once again we were like, if this
Speaker 4: dumb work, we're both in New York, we're both where
Speaker 4: we want to be and need to be, we will
Speaker 4: part ways. And so then we just realized, oh, this
Speaker 4: is working. But I'm never gonna deny myself my attraction
Speaker 4: to women. I'm never gonna deny myself my ability to
Speaker 4: articulate that am I desire to have sex with women?
Speaker 4: Because what happens when you don't do that is that
Speaker 4: people start to be like, wait a second, why do
Speaker 4: you comment under this picture like this? Like every now
Speaker 4: and then i'll see what. I'll see one of my
Speaker 4: friends who's gay, and I'll be like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: say you're not gay, gay women, gay man. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to say you're not gay, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: you got that dog. Listen, you got that dog? You
Speaker 4: you a little bit of a dog. I'm seeing the likes,
Speaker 4: I'm seeing some of the I'm seeing some of the comments.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing the way you interact with women. Just explore.
Speaker 3: I've let them do that. We don't let me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: There's a nigga I got a crush on right now.
Speaker 5: He's like one of the Peloton niggas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one? No?
Speaker 5: No, no, you know he looks like he's Spanish. I
Speaker 5: don't know his name. I just started following him, and
Speaker 5: you know it don't show you the most recent.
Speaker 4: That you follow I always let me.
Speaker 2: Oh wait is this no? This is another nigga? So
Speaker 2: he's so gorgeous.
Speaker 5: And when I went through his page, I still followed him,
Speaker 5: but I immediately checked him up to he ain't on
Speaker 5: my team because all my gay homeboys was in the likes.
Speaker 5: And then I went through the comments. When I see that,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, he and my team. Then I went
Speaker 5: through the comments and probably very innocent. He does respond
Speaker 5: to everyone, so I'm like, oh and he responded to
Speaker 5: the boys.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was like, I was like, he's gay.
Speaker 5: So literally, I'm on my Live last night and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to show them my views on ugly media, muggly media,
Speaker 5: muggly and find niggas, but this nigga fine. But I
Speaker 5: was like, I think he's gay. Everyone in the comments
Speaker 5: was like, no, girl, he not gay. And now I'm like,
Speaker 5: I gotta go back through the page.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna find him. But he's
Speaker 2: so fine. But comments can comments.
Speaker 4: Social media? Well, here's because people, the algorithm is the
Speaker 4: sexuality at that point. The views are the sexuality at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 1: I know gays, but like this, there might be fifty
Speaker 1: thousand likes, but I know four.
Speaker 7: Four gays and you went, I don't know is what
Speaker 7: is gage is now.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I think that, like, I have a friend
Speaker 4: who he's my age, and this is the first year
Speaker 4: that he said, you know, I'm gonna try to date women.
Speaker 4: He's not like actively trying to like date every girl,
Speaker 4: but he like if he's vibing with a girl, and
Speaker 4: because a lot of times people would be like will
Speaker 4: write him off. If he's vibing with a girl, he'll go, oh,
Speaker 4: you want to go get coffee, you want to go
Speaker 4: get dinner, you want to get lunch. He's trying his
Speaker 4: best to navigate that, not because he's not gay anymore,
Speaker 4: but because he's like, let me just see what has
Speaker 4: been your.
Speaker 5: Experience with black women, specifically telling them you're bisexual.
Speaker 4: It's a generational thing. It's I'm secure was young to me,
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's so generational. Also, I'm friends
Speaker 4: with Langston, so it's very funny that so like, who
Speaker 4: was the character that, well, Langston played the guy that
Speaker 4: Molly didn't want to date because he had experience with
Speaker 4: a woman. One time. I would think I would. I would.
Speaker 4: I can say that for the most part now, and
Speaker 4: because I'm friends with so many kind of like alternative
Speaker 4: fun black girls they there, everyone's down, Christina. We like,
Speaker 4: I've talked about it with a bunch of different people.
Speaker 4: But I think the older Black women there is gonna
Speaker 4: be a fear and that has to be sort of
Speaker 4: like slowly but surely changed over time.
Speaker 5: I think that has to do as well, just with
Speaker 5: the stigma that was associated with gay sex.
Speaker 4: And HIV family.
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna tell you why I think it won't
Speaker 1: go away.
Speaker 4: You tell me because there's because the crazy thing that
Speaker 4: we just found out about uh HIV is that it's
Speaker 4: affecting white is affecting black heterosexual women more.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know what a lot of this is attributed
Speaker 1: to is a lot of the states in where abortions
Speaker 1: now illegal, is keeping women from going to the doctor
Speaker 1: if you're fround pregnant in some of these states and
Speaker 1: you choose not to keep it.
Speaker 2: But that's also so new.
Speaker 3: No, but these rates rising are specific to these places.
Speaker 5: But I wonder like with the black women specifically as well,
Speaker 5: because Roe v. Wade was just last year. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: the statistical clific cities though, right, but the.
Speaker 1: Dallas, Texas with it, I mean, yeah, the rates also
Speaker 1: have risen within ninety days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one hundreds on a global scale, like and especially.
Speaker 5: HIV black women. But that's what I'm saying with Roe V.
Speaker 5: Wade in that fear that's within the last year. This
Speaker 5: has been a thing for like now the last five.
Speaker 1: Years, it has, But I'm just saying, like, some of
Speaker 1: it is attributed to the fact that they don't even
Speaker 1: want to go see the doctor.
Speaker 3: So now we have women that don't know their status.
Speaker 4: And I also think that like because for the longest
Speaker 4: time HIV was seen as a gay disease, I think
Speaker 4: that's so many heterosexual people don't even know about PREP
Speaker 4: at all. They know nothing. We don't talk about enough.
Speaker 4: And it's partly also because most of the ads are
Speaker 4: just like Forgate, very for gay people. But now they
Speaker 4: are starting to have more black women in in those
Speaker 4: ads and having more I'm talking about. But the thing
Speaker 4: that I want, the thing that I kind of want
Speaker 4: to emphasize that there is such a few year and
Speaker 4: such a stigma about homosexuality, and once again it's tied
Speaker 4: to the patriarchy and about and the church and about
Speaker 4: men not necessarily following the rules that we've set up
Speaker 4: for black masculinity, that at that point they kind of
Speaker 4: just don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: They Oh, this is what I was gonna say. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna go away. They don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. These people you're talking about, I feel like,
Speaker 1: as the years go on, I don't know if the
Speaker 1: world is growing or if I just have more like
Speaker 1: minded people accessible to me.
Speaker 2: It's probably the latter.
Speaker 4: I think it's both. I think we're seeing we're seeing
Speaker 4: people's brains expand in part because of TikTok and social media,
Speaker 4: and you are kind of like.
Speaker 2: Because I.
Speaker 4: Mean community, you're seeing more people coming to you and
Speaker 4: be like girl.
Speaker 3: For example, we post a thing of me talking about gampede.
Speaker 1: On on the comments, the comments on Instagram maybe percent
Speaker 1: like Shade's like, ooh girl, live you'all life, have fun whatever.
Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter and they're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: need God back and right, And I'm laughing.
Speaker 4: You saying this on Twitter, but you're saying you want
Speaker 4: God back on girl, you're in the head, You're seeing
Speaker 4: it on the bathroom wall in hell.
Speaker 1: Your demographic right, you're either welcome. I think Kem even
Speaker 1: made a comment like fuck bro. When I was on
Speaker 1: lip service, they did not fuck with me. And then
Speaker 1: when I was on Horrible, he loved it. They loved him,
Speaker 1: and and he's like.
Speaker 4: You're saying old niggas.
Speaker 1: It's not that demo as much it's her and it's
Speaker 1: not her right. She's talking about.
Speaker 2: Sex, but not Kingkagah. Not stories are out.
Speaker 4: There and also not it Generation X. And I say
Speaker 4: this with love because I know that they're all fifty
Speaker 4: and they figuring out if they're gonna get put in
Speaker 4: the home right now. I love I love that. Not
Speaker 4: a fifty don't do that, then I love them. They
Speaker 4: helped invent hip hop. But Generation X is truly so
Speaker 4: scared of queerness in a way that they they lied
Speaker 4: about Africa Bambada. Do you understand like there have been
Speaker 4: they're so was molesting little boys and they hid that.
Speaker 4: I ain't making it up. Double check it. It's like
Speaker 4: he said, Google's there. But Generation X is so scared
Speaker 4: of queerness in part because of HIV, but also because
Speaker 4: generationally they didn't have anyone who was even allowed to
Speaker 4: be out and they didn't have podcasts. I understand that fear.
Speaker 4: I understand. I grew up in Mississippi. I didn't we
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people in my middle school, we
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people. So Joe got told we
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people in my high school. I
Speaker 4: take that back. We had one guy who we called gay,
Speaker 4: but that's just because one time we saw him tucking
Speaker 4: shirt in and that's it.
Speaker 2: I don't think. How old did you say you were.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty six. I wouldn't. I graduated no six.
Speaker 2: So I'm thirty three. I bring that up.
Speaker 5: I did not see gay people growing up until I
Speaker 5: moved to Atlanta and then many I'm from Florida. I
Speaker 5: actually had a gay cousin. Do you know to this
Speaker 5: day we never saw a partner I was.
Speaker 2: We were never introduced to a man.
Speaker 5: I don't even know if he ever had sex, but
Speaker 5: we knew he was gay as a family. That's why
Speaker 5: he loved Jamaica. But like, literally, I didn't grow up
Speaker 5: even seeing gay people.
Speaker 3: I think this is this is.
Speaker 2: Again, it's different.
Speaker 1: We grow up right because you know, my mom, my
Speaker 1: godfather was gay. I was born in sam fran but
Speaker 1: Mandy and I grew up both grew up in Orlando.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that experience. Hey, best friend, I expected
Speaker 1: like I mixed some in high.
Speaker 2: School, middle school in high school.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 4: Oh, but in my school, in my high school, we
Speaker 4: had we had a lot of our lesbians. And this
Speaker 4: is not a joke, but that's also because we had
Speaker 4: an amazing women's basketball team. So we were like, they're
Speaker 4: not lesbians, they're winners. Okay, there's a difference.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's kind of like and it said, I mean
Speaker 8: by finding it, So I grew up seeing all the gays,
Speaker 8: right I'm talking about I remember once my father got
Speaker 8: in an argument with one of his friends or someone
Speaker 8: around because my mom and her gay best friend would
Speaker 8: be in the bed watching movies.
Speaker 1: They're still best friends to this day. And I was
Speaker 1: overexposed to it. Right, So I think that I never
Speaker 1: saw the other side. But I say all this because
Speaker 1: when I talk about the tribe, there is also that
Speaker 1: group on Twitter.
Speaker 3: They were not generation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the.
Speaker 6: Crowd or younger millennials and younger shit is always gonna
Speaker 6: be hood shape, broa.
Speaker 2: You click on them niggas and.
Speaker 1: They look the same, and they all kind of have
Speaker 1: that same idea about kink, about me being a whore.
Speaker 1: I also saw a guy retweet the thing about me
Speaker 1: saying I got pissed on and he said how nice
Speaker 1: it must be to be rich, And I thought to myself, Oh,
Speaker 1: he thinks the man that pete on me isbai.
Speaker 5: Literally I saw that as a comment. Oh she's ready
Speaker 5: to go toes. That is that nigga. I know pisses
Speaker 5: free everyone. Everyone could do it. You could get it.
Speaker 5: I listen, I have. I have tried water sports in
Speaker 5: the shower. I think everyone has the difference.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm trying to sit here and think of the
Speaker 2: correlation with him. I'll be honest with you. And I
Speaker 2: get asked this from my homegirls.
Speaker 5: When I peg men for my own pleasure, they'd be like, girl,
Speaker 5: you ain't charge him. So when it's something that you
Speaker 5: feel like you maybe can't get or it's not accessible,
Speaker 5: or if it's taboo. But god, So I've been in
Speaker 5: therapy dealing with this, like my friends right now, the
Speaker 5: niggas that are all my roster, the niggas that I'm
Speaker 5: dealing with, and every time I'm with them, they're like, girl,
Speaker 5: how much money you getting?
Speaker 2: How much you're asking for?
Speaker 5: And I was like, do y'all know I'm not in
Speaker 5: survival mode and I don't have to charge niggas to
Speaker 5: fuck me anymore, Like and I'm literally arguing with my
Speaker 5: friends down because my nigga's rich and they're like, so,
Speaker 5: how much money are you getting?
Speaker 2: So what are you what are you getting out of it?
Speaker 4: I mean, we can also talk about this. There's there's
Speaker 4: a bit there's a bit of a conflation between like
Speaker 4: making sure that the people you date and the people
Speaker 4: you interact with and the people you want to have
Speaker 4: sex with are taking care of themselves, but also if
Speaker 4: you have if they want to buy you something like
Speaker 4: the fact that no one is scared when the check
Speaker 4: comes to the table versus And this is what's happened
Speaker 4: because of TikTok and a little bit because of Instagram,
Speaker 4: people forgot they were getting advice from from sex workers
Speaker 4: and from three or fos about how to find rich
Speaker 4: men in these places. It's like, girl, that's not how
Speaker 4: they were a.
Speaker 2: Whole prostitutes that you were getting, dating advice.
Speaker 4: You were getting and here's a and here's a crazy part,
Speaker 4: Like I'm pro sex work. I understand, I understand. This
Speaker 4: is the worst I was professional. Ain't never gonna go away.
Speaker 4: But if you are trying, if you're in in high school,
Speaker 4: if you're in college and your only goal is to
Speaker 4: like get a bag from a dude who you just
Speaker 4: met at a hookah lounge. That not dating. That is like,
Speaker 4: that's like kind of that's a business venture and so,
Speaker 4: but you can't like conflate the two.
Speaker 1: Like he really making me think about a friend that's
Speaker 1: in my life. She's from Atlanta and she's moved living
Speaker 1: between New York and LA and basically was recently saying like,
Speaker 1: I haven't dated for loving so long that when I'm
Speaker 1: now dating for love, I almost feel like they're getting
Speaker 1: over on me, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be frustrated, and it should be.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know me, my age she is. She's like, girl, like,
Speaker 1: I'm out here. I've dated Princess, I dated ballplayers, I
Speaker 1: dated these rappers, all these people. Now I'm dating a
Speaker 1: dude who's taking me to dinners. If I have sex
Speaker 1: with them after a few dates, I feel like I
Speaker 1: did it for nothing.
Speaker 4: And she because you deserve because you.
Speaker 1: Content, bro, She's like, and then I click on and
Speaker 1: mind you, this is a grown ass woman. She was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sending your took an on Instagram and on my
Speaker 1: algorithm because all the holes I know, and all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, this is how you get it, This is
Speaker 1: how you live yourself like this, how you do this.
Speaker 2: She's like, I can't figure out how.
Speaker 4: To I understand we're saying this from places of privilege.
Speaker 4: I see the clouds, I see the hat, I see
Speaker 4: the jewels. I understand that if you are in a
Speaker 4: situation where you want to make sure that you're taken
Speaker 4: care of and also you want to make sure that
Speaker 4: you're dating people who can take care of you, but
Speaker 4: like their hat, you have to like them a little bit.
Speaker 4: It is getting weird.
Speaker 3: I had a whole outline about marriage, but I know
Speaker 3: were gonna have you on a care.
Speaker 5: We can talk about marriage, but no, no, we gonna
Speaker 5: say that, but a whole. But I want to bring
Speaker 5: up this clip I saw.
Speaker 1: I think y'all be so much mon to talk about
Speaker 1: this with little douvall posted this.
Speaker 2: I just I just reposted something about him.
Speaker 3: Is this women cut from South White under belly.
Speaker 9: Attracted women are giving advice to average women about entitlement. Now,
Speaker 9: in honesty, really beautiful young women can afford to be entitled.
Speaker 9: Life is easy for them. This is just an unfair
Speaker 9: fact of life. But ultimately you would think that, but
Speaker 9: there are still men willing to risk it still pays off.
Speaker 9: That entitlement is reserved for the one percent of women.
Speaker 9: It's reserved for the hyper beautiful. You really look after themselves.
Speaker 9: The problem is these women are the ones that we
Speaker 9: see online the most. Now they're saying, this is what
Speaker 9: you get out of life. Don't set up for anything less.
Speaker 9: Make sure you don't do fifty to fifty blah blah.
Speaker 9: That can only applies to the one percent of women.
Speaker 9: Majority of women are average. Majority of women don't get
Speaker 9: that kind of treatment from men. Majority of women can't
Speaker 9: elicit that out of men.
Speaker 2: So when here's my.
Speaker 3: Carment, I said, this is a jadave perspective.
Speaker 1: Maybe when it comes to the dating pool, Yes, beautiful
Speaker 1: women have or access to richermond, but I disagree that
Speaker 1: an average looking women can't get a man.
Speaker 3: To pay for everything.
Speaker 1: Beyond that, I don't like fifty to fifty preaching because
Speaker 1: it is not about average looks. It is about the
Speaker 1: majority of people not having status or money. I meet
Speaker 1: gorgeous women all the time that work regular jobs, and
Speaker 1: they are not crawling the clubs or igdms looking for
Speaker 1: rich niggas.
Speaker 2: This is podcast talk.
Speaker 1: Normal people exist, and normal people doesn't mean they aren't beautiful.
Speaker 1: I follow at least fifty women that look better than
Speaker 1: this girl have less than the found followers and private pages.
Speaker 1: They are not out here doing interviews. The real world exists.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I am.
Speaker 1: So tired of us thinking that beauty money stat like
Speaker 1: this is Instagram thought.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: It not only is the Instagram thought, it's also click
Speaker 4: driven bait. The sex is women. Some of the sexiest women.
Speaker 4: You know what they do. They third grade teachers in
Speaker 4: places that don't pay teachers nearly enough. Hell, they are
Speaker 4: not They are not bottle service girls. They are not
Speaker 4: going to Dubai to get pooped on under glass table.
Speaker 4: They are truly just women, Black women in particular, trying
Speaker 4: to make money in America. And that's hard.
Speaker 3: You know why we think that these girls aren't pretty anywhere.
Speaker 1: I've realized when a girl's walking on the street that
Speaker 1: has an ig batty look BBL maybe certain fillers or
Speaker 1: even dark hair, big eyebrows, just a certain makeup, even aesthetic,
Speaker 1: that is what even these ig met like. That is
Speaker 1: the thing that we see rich people, money, charter planes,
Speaker 1: we think they look like Kim.
Speaker 2: We do. So when you.
Speaker 3: See a hot, quote unquote normal looking black.
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm gonna say, just like this, if we saw
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Union or Megan Good walking down the street, we
Speaker 1: probably think not as them as a celebrity when in
Speaker 1: regular clos like oh she's cute, but we don't glamorize it.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of girl looks.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things on line now though that
Speaker 5: do live the soft girl life or do preach it.
Speaker 5: Or even the girl who didn't want to be taken
Speaker 5: to the cheesecake factory, and because she looked normal, everyone
Speaker 5: in the comments was.
Speaker 4: Like, you don't.
Speaker 5: You don't deserve to speak this way. People feel as
Speaker 5: though average looking women don't deserve to ask for more,
Speaker 5: which is actually what she's just saying, like no, you
Speaker 5: don't have to settle, like and we talk about it
Speaker 5: all the time, like when I want to know when
Speaker 5: I look bro, I was talking, I was fucking millionaires.
Speaker 5: Happened first, like doing all the things as a big bitch.
Speaker 5: And people that watch this goddamn podcast was like she lying,
Speaker 5: ain't no way she getting that. I do not pop
Speaker 5: niggas thought I was lying about my motherfucking life. I
Speaker 5: ain't got a motherfucking life.
Speaker 4: But y'all do the niggas on my phone.
Speaker 2: Right now, y'all be old.
Speaker 4: Bitch, Like we have to even like dissect the fact that, like, no,
Speaker 4: at no point in time has everyone's dating life and
Speaker 4: the way they go about securing dates and finding love
Speaker 4: and who's paying for it's never been so public. So
Speaker 4: now everyone's being like, oh, I'm going I'm going this.
Speaker 4: They go, oh, I'm gonna go to this place and
Speaker 4: we're gonna order this. And now people are showing your
Speaker 4: seats now all the time. I hate that, am I
Speaker 4: seeing your receipts?
Speaker 2: Why is the.
Speaker 5: Question now how much money should be spent on a
Speaker 5: first date? And they're really doing that man on the
Speaker 5: street style, and there's people who are saying it has
Speaker 5: to be a certain dollar amount. And so that's where
Speaker 5: maybe your friend dating now regular comparing to what.
Speaker 1: She's getting actually to her, well, I don't know the
Speaker 1: word I'm trying to say, but basically not to her fault.
Speaker 2: But she literally was like, it's not like.
Speaker 3: I'm expecting them to do with these other men.
Speaker 1: I'm blaming myself thinking of how many steps it took
Speaker 1: me to fuck? And my friend can't do they really
Speaker 1: like me because these regular dudes will play you too.
Speaker 1: And we're like, and I've had these girls drilling to
Speaker 1: my head like, oh you need to be with a
Speaker 1: rich guy crying the Bentley, don't cry in the Hunter.
Speaker 1: She's like, so, now dating for love is so hard
Speaker 1: because I can't figure out what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: But then what happens. What happens if you cry in
Speaker 4: the Bentley enough that y'all break up? And then people go,
Speaker 4: now she's a homie hopper because you've told all these
Speaker 4: people you can't ever go back to a certain lifestyle choice.
Speaker 4: So now you got a date a person that friend
Speaker 4: group or a person who is in that circle because
Speaker 4: you have to cry in a different Bentley. And now
Speaker 4: all the comments aren't oh she's living soft girl life,
Speaker 4: it's oh she's a homie hopper. Oh she's an industry thought.
Speaker 4: Oh she's just bopping around. It's never going. And I'm
Speaker 4: saying this as a person who is like, I'm not
Speaker 4: a socialist. I'm not a socialist at all, but like
Speaker 4: that you have let top tier late stage capitalism infect
Speaker 4: your brain because now you're like, oh, you know what
Speaker 4: I need? I need this. You there's not a person
Speaker 4: who I know who needs one hundred thousand dollars vehicle.
Speaker 4: If you need it, go get it. But you don't
Speaker 4: need it. You want to show a future of it.
Speaker 4: You don't care about that car. You don't care. It's
Speaker 4: just it's weird because it's part of the landscape, it's
Speaker 4: part of the economy, it's part of like it's never
Speaker 4: gonna go away, a feeling.
Speaker 3: Like you need the next thing.
Speaker 1: We had this conversation last night at dinner talk slightly
Speaker 1: about it. A woman named arsenal Ursula Burns that I
Speaker 1: produced a show with that basically talked about how much
Speaker 1: matters money. She's a billionaire, and she said, after a
Speaker 1: million dollars, it's not the same anymore. Right, So then
Speaker 1: at dinner we were like, how much money do you need.
Speaker 3: To where you don't think about it anymore?
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact for me that number
Speaker 1: was in the four I stopped thinking about what I
Speaker 1: was spending now.
Speaker 5: Nig I just talked about this in therapy. For the
Speaker 5: last couple of years, I didn't look at the price
Speaker 5: tag of nothing. But I guess after that number, Yeah,
Speaker 5: what do you want now? Because I was thinking, yeah, oh,
Speaker 5: I just want a better car than a Tesla. Now
Speaker 5: I want a bigger apartment. Now I want a bigger
Speaker 5: I want to always fly first. Now I want this.
Speaker 5: I don't want gold plated.
Speaker 2: I'm needing stress.
Speaker 1: The money isn't I was doing these things right right,
Speaker 1: Like I can eat out without looking at the orders
Speaker 1: of eat.
Speaker 3: That price tag that he's talking about is for other people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And because the comfort, comfort and security and not
Speaker 4: having to worry and not having those that peace of
Speaker 4: mind that you clear that benchmark and then you're kind
Speaker 4: of now you're getting into like choices. You're getting in like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is this is a matter of option one A
Speaker 4: versus option one. B Oh, I don't know, I really.
Speaker 2: Do I want the Jackie bag? Or do I just
Speaker 2: want a new clutch?
Speaker 4: Do I really.
Speaker 2: Need do I want one Grand Caviart exactly?
Speaker 3: It's literally it's not real decisions.
Speaker 4: And I'm saying this as a person, and this is
Speaker 4: a this is life flex. I've been on TV quite
Speaker 4: a lot. I have a very good stand up career
Speaker 4: currently going. There is a level of success financially and
Speaker 4: professionally where you kind of go Okay. So now if
Speaker 4: I'm ripping and running, it needs to be for a passion.
Speaker 4: Project needs to be something I love, something I want.
Speaker 4: And when you left that business mindset about your professional
Speaker 4: life creep into like your love life. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: it would poison you, it would make you, It would
Speaker 4: drive you crazy if you went oh, because now.
Speaker 5: Am I going to put in the transaction of this relationships?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 1: People if they're hand in hands and they can't be
Speaker 1: Now it's the contrary. I do think we all should
Speaker 1: be dating someone that is equal or better.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone here is trying to Kevin Samuel's
Speaker 4: this conversation.
Speaker 1: Girls should meet people where they're at as far as like,
Speaker 1: let's say you make mad bread, you meet a dude
Speaker 1: who doesn't make as much as you.
Speaker 5: What's that line? Look, you disagree because when I was poor,
Speaker 5: I wanted original.
Speaker 4: Well here's the thing. If I wasn't in a date another,
Speaker 4: But Maddie, I think that you. I think that you
Speaker 4: are also you from the interacts we've had today, You're
Speaker 4: also capable of being like, I don't really like this
Speaker 4: rich nigga. So you know what he gets this much
Speaker 4: of me, this much of my time, this much of
Speaker 4: my energy because.
Speaker 2: The primary but I'm getting whole bunch of.
Speaker 4: But that's what we're saying, having having a having a roster,
Speaker 4: and having the ability to say, oh, I can invest
Speaker 4: this much time in this person. I have the time,
Speaker 4: Assilles go, oh, I really like this for this quality.
Speaker 4: I like this person this quality. That's a little bit
Speaker 4: different than saying I have to be unhappy with this
Speaker 4: man because I like this And there's.
Speaker 1: No option anymore for in this economy for us to
Speaker 1: be saying we can only date someone that makes X,
Speaker 1: y Z more because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: for me, I work in entertainment.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day to day, don't eat.
Speaker 1: And decide that I can't work anymore, don't want to
Speaker 1: work anymore. Is the man that owns real estate and
Speaker 1: is learning how to flip it and is doing all
Speaker 1: this shit that's more valuable to me, Like wait, and.
Speaker 2: It's got these things in their hands. You did j mvy.
Speaker 3: Not want peak color bas.
Speaker 4: There is no here's it okay? But I also think that,
Speaker 4: like it's such an economics and love and race, these
Speaker 4: are all conversations that like black people are trying to
Speaker 4: have online on podcasts, in person, sometimes in seminar, and
Speaker 4: sometimes with our friends. They're like, whenever you start to
Speaker 4: like put all of these conversations in the same pot,
Speaker 4: everything like we've been discussing becomes so confusing. You can say, oh,
Speaker 4: I really want to make sure that I love the man,
Speaker 4: I love the person that I'm with. Oh, that's a conversation.
Speaker 4: You can say, oh, how do I make sure that
Speaker 4: I myself am setting up myself for a good financial
Speaker 4: future both at work and also making sure that I'm
Speaker 4: dating someone who we're not scared when a bill comes. Yes,
Speaker 4: that's a different conversation. I think. Also there's another conversation
Speaker 4: where goes what am I holding on to certain mindsets
Speaker 4: and certain mentalities from antiquity from yester year that are
Speaker 4: limiting me as a black person in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 4: Are there moments where I'm saying shit, where I'm like,
Speaker 4: why why am I thinking this way? Why am I
Speaker 4: really looking at it like this? I think these are
Speaker 4: three different.
Speaker 3: Conversations that we're seeing.
Speaker 4: Well, it's the content, but also is because the content
Speaker 4: drives clicks, which drives likes, which drives, and it drives
Speaker 4: these meta conversations that then become real conversations because then
Speaker 4: people talk about it. But like my favorite example of
Speaker 4: this is like people, I'm glad we brought up Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 4: This is what people talk about when talk about Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing they don't go. They don't go Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, one of the best black actors of
Speaker 4: our time.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's a lot. We never said she's one
Speaker 5: of the best actors.
Speaker 2: We do not ever say that.
Speaker 5: You're you're wait wait, I think I'm not thinking she
Speaker 5: has never been one of the best Black actors of
Speaker 5: our time.
Speaker 4: I'm putting Gabrielle Union career.
Speaker 1: We've been with Angela Bassett. Can I tell you we're
Speaker 1: not going to do that. We have to do that,
Speaker 1: you bring up gabriel Union like this. I had this
Speaker 1: in a micro conversation. Was on a plane watching deliver
Speaker 1: Us from either Yeah Black Girl next to me and
Speaker 1: said to me, we do not give this enough credits.
Speaker 1: She is a good literally said because look what I'm
Speaker 1: watching on my iPad and flipped being married Jane and.
Speaker 2: I'm glad it got two seasons, but this one look
Speaker 2: like she's cool, but she is not one of the
Speaker 2: best Black I like her. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4: I didn't she not one of the best Black said she.
Speaker 4: I didn't say she was.
Speaker 2: Viola All doesn't even show up.
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's talk about Let's say this, so when
Speaker 4: we when we talk about Gabriel Union, we don't say, oh,
Speaker 4: she is a very talented black actress there who we love,
Speaker 4: whose career has spent decades. Who I'm gonna give you all.
Speaker 3: You will agree with all the ones before.
Speaker 1: Viola, Regina King, Okay, Carrie, Yeah, was in.
Speaker 4: All the three moments? Then you only have two you
Speaker 4: want to have to I was.
Speaker 5: Cool with that whole first five. Or maybe you only
Speaker 5: have to so not once to not you could have
Speaker 5: just stop right there.
Speaker 4: This is about you. This is about you and the party.
Speaker 5: Thinking no, no, no, sticking around. Sticking around does not mean
Speaker 5: that you were one of the best. Even the roles
Speaker 5: that they played. Bro Mid is what I was range.
Speaker 5: But Union is in the same us.
Speaker 2: This book is a cop because I loved her book.
Speaker 2: You know why she was able to write her books great.
Speaker 3: Because that's how her personal life.
Speaker 4: You can't tell you. But but but let's talk about it.
Speaker 4: So when we talk about Union Fox, there we go.
Speaker 4: We talked about reunion. Who at least the right who's
Speaker 4: the same thing?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, iconic, iconic, icon is crazy, man, do you
Speaker 1: know that?
Speaker 4: But then who's But then who's iconic and black?
Speaker 5: To you, I said that whole first group she named
Speaker 5: this is in the first group that mainstream Garyel Vinegar
Speaker 5: Fox is one of ours. I'm sorry, I didn't know
Speaker 5: we were talking about BTT black busses.
Speaker 4: No, girl, we didn't say that.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 4: Also also, if we want to, we can talk about it.
Speaker 4: We can talk about we can talk about Nedda and Charles.
Speaker 4: But no, but you see, we know. But good, okay,
Speaker 4: this is the five. Okay, So we have Gabriel Union.
Speaker 4: And when we bring up Gabriel Union, we have talk.
Speaker 4: We talk about the fact that she starting from there,
Speaker 4: let's know, you know, we talk about the fact that
Speaker 4: she said that her and her multimainionaire NBA ed husband
Speaker 4: they went fifty to fifty people. I can't buy Leiaving.
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't. I can definitely believe. At
Speaker 4: some point they were like, oh, we split some stuff
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think. I don't necessarily think that's a
Speaker 4: crazy conversation. Belie. It's fifty to fifty, but it's probably
Speaker 4: not about splits of different fractions. It's not big.
Speaker 1: But hold on, you know what it is too, women
Speaker 1: with wealth, women with long standing careers.
Speaker 3: No one wants to sit there and not have a
Speaker 3: piece of the pie. It must feel to be.
Speaker 4: Able to say, wait a minute, you can't kick me out,
Speaker 4: wait an I pad, because that is the.
Speaker 1: Big man man right now making the same money you made,
Speaker 1: fell in love.
Speaker 2: You guys want to.
Speaker 3: Buy a property together?
Speaker 5: No, I'm not well, first if he's bying property with
Speaker 5: a nigga. Never, I'm not doing any more business fifty
Speaker 5: fifty with anybody into a place together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, So here's the thing too, and my well, me
Speaker 5: and my ex even had this conversation. So because we
Speaker 5: weren't making the same amount of money, there was no
Speaker 5: way in hell it would make sense. And even for him,
Speaker 5: of course, the things that we even wanted, what I
Speaker 5: want stealing four windows door, man, I can afford that
Speaker 5: that motherfucker lived in Harlem.
Speaker 2: I think he was lucky to have elevation.
Speaker 5: So no, so what I'm saying is knowing that we
Speaker 5: did make differences in money, which is be clear, Gabrielle
Speaker 5: Union and Dwayne Wade make differences of money.
Speaker 2: Don't believe it should be fifty to fifty at all.
Speaker 5: And so if me and him would have moved into
Speaker 5: an apartment that was seven grand a month, because the
Speaker 5: two bedrooms that I was looking at at the time
Speaker 5: were that, I wouldn't expect him to pay thirty five hundred.
Speaker 3: You meet a man today, you guys make the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has an apartment, I have my apartment. I
Speaker 2: don't want to live with a nigga bro.
Speaker 4: But I think the conversation instead of talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, two wealthy black people, they're building
Speaker 2: a life together.
Speaker 4: But then I guess what I wanted to add to that.
Speaker 4: I was like, what I wanted to add to that
Speaker 4: was that people instead of just being like, Oh, let's
Speaker 4: have a conversation about black love, all, let's have a
Speaker 4: conversation about like two wealthy black people together, they also
Speaker 4: were like, Oh, let's talk about the fact that like
Speaker 4: she emasculates him, all, let's talk about the fact that
Speaker 4: they have a trans child. I was like to say, so,
Speaker 4: why are we trying to have all of those conversations
Speaker 4: together all at the same time, Because the minute that
Speaker 4: even when y'all wants to do something it sexually different
Speaker 4: with one of your male partners, the conversation isn't I'm
Speaker 4: glad women are free, it's they love day and gay niggas.
Speaker 4: Now it's everyone wants to have seven conversations that once,
Speaker 4: instead of being like, this is the only thing.
Speaker 2: People don't know how to compartmentalize.
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear, but it's dwindling back A good commack.
Speaker 3: Yes, the fucking patriarchy.
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Euni one of the best black ashes of all times.
Speaker 4: In my top five.
Speaker 2: You had something to make that wasn't your point.
Speaker 1: All I was saying was all we do is now
Speaker 1: find a way to talk back about the sexuality of
Speaker 1: her husband and masculations a kid, her not being woman enough,
Speaker 1: or the splitting of the bills, like her not being valued.
Speaker 2: Another age difference.
Speaker 1: It's so much conversation and it literally takes her and
Speaker 1: all of her accolades away because it is man.
Speaker 4: It's the accolade, hey, you know, but also this is
Speaker 4: a man this but this is fun and this is
Speaker 4: like a key other people. Here's the crazy part. Other people, truly,
Speaker 4: they truly will be like, nah, like this is what
Speaker 4: happens because they still want to be these are evil
Speaker 4: kind of like like chauvinistic man. They're like, this is
Speaker 4: what happens when like blah blah blah blah blah, she
Speaker 4: has too much control. She emasculates him, like she's the
Speaker 4: reason that he's okay with this. She's the reason that
Speaker 4: he's like dressing like this. And I'm like, the man
Speaker 4: lives in Miami.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 4: Think, But also like I also I also think that
Speaker 4: like when we have conversations like this, it is better.
Speaker 4: But you know, acknowledging the privilege we are all we
Speaker 4: are people who are living in New York who like
Speaker 4: have the ability. But you know what I mean, like
Speaker 4: people join ourselves because I think some people who have
Speaker 4: to clock in clock out whenever they get home, when
Speaker 4: they watch these conversations that kind of go, oh, it's
Speaker 4: just as a bunch of like wealthy, light skinned New
Speaker 4: York niggas talking about shit that don't really affect us.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, listen, I know you think it's that way,
Speaker 4: but the stuff that we're talking about if I'm saying that,
Speaker 4: like sexual rigidity is limiting you as a regular ass
Speaker 4: man from being able to pick up what drink you
Speaker 4: want to pick up at the bar. You couldn't even
Speaker 4: wear a pink until Cameron let you. Nigga not giving
Speaker 4: it to camera on it, but that isn't I'm not
Speaker 4: giving it a camp but you know, but jokingly, jokingly,
Speaker 4: there's so many parts.
Speaker 2: Funny because y'all want to see here Lizzie now, y'all
Speaker 2: want to suck on.
Speaker 5: Kendrick Digg, but y'all letting Drake allow y'all pint y'all
Speaker 5: nails now too.
Speaker 4: Be very clear and in the wildest part of that
Speaker 4: whole situation, and I'm only gonna talk a little bit
Speaker 4: about Kendrick and Drake is because like people, they instantly went, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: Kendrick destroyed Drake, and I was like, yes, But, like
Speaker 4: y'all said, need to be more happy with the battle
Speaker 4: than any of the allegations it is. It is weird
Speaker 4: to be like it's done, but then also be like, uh, kids, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't care about that.
Speaker 1: I was smoking weed and I'm not a good weed smoker.
Speaker 1: I was in the club and I was dancing like
Speaker 1: and I said a minor and my brain went, oh no,
Speaker 1: I literally said.
Speaker 5: When they came out, I said, we is not going
Speaker 5: to be in the club yelling out a minor work
Speaker 5: And literally everyone was like this, bitch.
Speaker 4: Yes you will. Here's here's a wild part. I do
Speaker 4: think it hopefully will stop some of these dudes from
Speaker 4: letting them nineteen year old girlfriends in the club, because
Speaker 4: how you're going to be in a section a minor
Speaker 4: with a nineteen year old?
Speaker 2: So nineteen is not a minor with well?
Speaker 4: With us with the sixteen is not a minor. Well,
Speaker 4: I mean with your young don't do that.
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. Eighteen and up is
Speaker 2: an adult.
Speaker 3: And you heard him say, my husband, so do you
Speaker 3: want to?
Speaker 2: And I hold you when you did that, I did
Speaker 2: the math a little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm not going, but I'm not going. When you all met,
Speaker 4: he was he was.
Speaker 5: He said, we've been together thirty thirteen years married nine,
Speaker 5: he thirty one.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh much, yeah, college, but that's.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But when he was sitting with was it too what's
Speaker 1: his name to toy and he said, you like teenage girls?
Speaker 4: And he went nineteen as a teenager.
Speaker 3: No you say teenage? What age are we talking? And
Speaker 3: I remember his face?
Speaker 4: I mean and like, I mean, I get I get
Speaker 4: a lot of the joy because I play. I played,
Speaker 4: not like way too much. But like every now and
Speaker 4: then we'll have conversations online will be like, oh this
Speaker 4: is fun, is fun, and just every now and then
Speaker 4: you want to be like, wait, oh shit, oh shit,
Speaker 4: this is this is like kind of this is a
Speaker 4: little dark.
Speaker 1: We're going to feel bad right now. We don't feel
Speaker 1: bad because it's not real. What we just saw with
Speaker 1: Diddy is real. We saw people were.
Speaker 5: People were still sticking up for him until the video,
Speaker 5: until we had bisical evidence and now they're right back.
Speaker 4: Wasn't they're like a Diddy? The crazy Diddy thing to
Speaker 4: me was when people were like, yeah, who hasn't tried
Speaker 4: to blow up Kid Cuddy's car?
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's not.
Speaker 4: He tried to kill Kitty, He tried to.
Speaker 2: Put that's crazy funny.
Speaker 4: That's crazy because that like got swept on the rug.
Speaker 1: My three favorite rappers are not anymore Ito waits in
Speaker 1: My Darkness fantasy, but it was Kanye, Cuddy and Codek.
Speaker 5: What anyway, God damn, you let your white side and
Speaker 5: tell the people where to find.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 4: You can find me all over social media, just at
Speaker 4: Jay Jurden. My name j y j U r D.
Speaker 4: And I'm on tour or this summer. You can see
Speaker 4: me do an hour of stand up. Uh you can.
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going to Orlando on the seventeen. Yeah, August, Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: So I'm in Chicago in August. I'm gonna be at
Speaker 4: the Labrett Improv in September. I'm gonna be in Phoenix
Speaker 4: in September, and then I'm gonna be I'll be in
Speaker 4: La again in October two. I'll be doing my hour
Speaker 4: at the Dynasty. So okay, have a lot of fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to have you back on talk about marror. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we ain't talking about marriage.
Speaker 4: Well, sexuality. I think for a lot of people, especially
Speaker 4: especially black podcast listeners, I'm very happy that slowly but
Speaker 4: surely we're having a bunch of younger Black people and
Speaker 4: older Black people being able to be like, I'm figuring
Speaker 4: stuff out. I'm figuring stuff out for me because some
Speaker 4: of the old rules they ain't there no more. Now
Speaker 4: think about this, think about this. It went. It took
Speaker 4: maybe ten years. Skinny jeans were gay, then they were
Speaker 4: the stand and now they're out. But now if someone's
Speaker 4: wearing skin and jeans, I know that they're straight.
Speaker 2: All right, we're not playing with this.
Speaker 4: If I see you on skin and jeans, now I'll
Speaker 4: go oh oh.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to have you want to do the
Speaker 3: acting straight? Anyway, y'all, thanks for listening to Patreon.
Speaker 1: We'll have Jay on soon so that you can hear
Speaker 1: all about his husband fight and I want to see
Speaker 1: his acting straight skit.
Speaker 4: Ooh yes, yeah, b it's going to be.
Speaker 3: Control.
Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm working on it because I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to, you know, use my mouth for multiple people
Speaker 5: saying so, so, how many do you think you could
Speaker 5: do in a week? What how many people in a week?
Speaker 5: Or how many times can I stuck.
Speaker 2: Dick in a week?
Speaker 3: Because if you meet them, then you take them to
Speaker 3: the sex club.
Speaker 5: Okay, so guys, luckily Weazy got to do her scrolling
Speaker 5: prior to this, but you can for this.
Speaker 2: What I'm not gonna lie. So you would not have
Speaker 2: jumped on field. I would not have jumped on field
Speaker 2: at all, so no, this is Patreon.
Speaker 3: I'm on there.
Speaker 5: You are on there, I mean you you can't you know,
Speaker 5: hold on.
Speaker 1: I don't want to run into people in there, you said,
Speaker 1: I mean okay, so yeah, don't believe it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, No, why you said it on the other app.
Speaker 2: I'm not the other app, but you said it on
Speaker 2: the what No?
Speaker 5: Okay, anyways, y'all, I'm on this app now because weasy
Speaker 5: got on the app to have another semi fourth some
Speaker 5: because it wasn't like a real forsome it was.
Speaker 2: It was given semi.
Speaker 3: If it was real or not.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, one was crying, the other one has just been, which.
Speaker 5: Is crazy because I have not came across your couple.
Speaker 5: So I wonder if because we have each other's number,
Speaker 5: What do you mean? I haven't seen anyone I know
Speaker 5: on there either, but I know people on the app.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know he and him be swiping.
Speaker 3: He'd be like, damn, we adn't run out of bitches here.
Speaker 2: You haven't came across my page. No, and i've seen
Speaker 2: the years either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know they've they'd be I'm blocking, not compatible,
Speaker 5: maybe cop blocking.
Speaker 2: So basically, y'all, I got on an app, and.
Speaker 5: I have been in this place where I'm like questioning
Speaker 5: a lot, like my sexuality, what I want, what I
Speaker 5: don't want, what I think I want, what I might want,
Speaker 5: trying to learn from my previous relationship, like how to
Speaker 5: go about communicating it, and in a.
Speaker 2: Very like greedy way. I know, I just want a
Speaker 2: lot of people like I realized that.
Speaker 5: So and after the Internet tore me a new asshole
Speaker 5: because I clearly only want to have sex with women
Speaker 5: and want to be in a relationship with men, I
Speaker 5: decided I kind of wanted to try a couple. After
Speaker 5: you found such a good looking couple on the DApp,
Speaker 5: I can't believe it. Me neither, So bitch, I found
Speaker 5: a good looking couple and I almost didn't even think
Speaker 5: they were real.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, well let me try this out.
Speaker 5: So I matched with the guy first, and it was
Speaker 5: very clear that they were looking for a girlfriend, like
Speaker 5: they don't play separate, which is what I was.
Speaker 2: Finding a lot of friends, not a third no, So
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 5: The a lot of the couples that I was finding
Speaker 5: were open to playing together or separate, or only one
Speaker 5: of them were attractive.
Speaker 2: I don't know how.
Speaker 5: I don't know how good looking people getting with ugly people,
Speaker 5: but it's the new waves. Like a lot of these
Speaker 5: couples was fifty fifty. I know one looked good, the
Speaker 5: other was not.
Speaker 2: It you know it's crazy too.
Speaker 1: I feel like when we were growing up, we always
Speaker 1: see a good looking woman with a just okay looking
Speaker 1: man because of money.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was seeing some of the opposite.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, there's this other guy and I'll show
Speaker 5: you the nigga's been looking good.
Speaker 2: This nigga look good and his bitch.
Speaker 5: I was like, I ain't playing well with a ten
Speaker 5: foot pole nigga ugly.
Speaker 2: I was not interested. Not ugly. Bitch is a big word.
Speaker 5: Bitch, Why you ain't got no luck?
Speaker 3: A bitch is just okay?
Speaker 2: No bitch ugly ugly?
Speaker 5: And I was like, like, awesome, if I got to
Speaker 5: fuck her to fuck you, I don't even want to
Speaker 5: fuck you for real, for real, let.
Speaker 2: Me show you how ugly. And he's okay, but she bruh,
Speaker 2: she is sturdeous.
Speaker 4: What BRO told you?
Speaker 3: She's ugly?
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm okay, I know this is Bro. I know
Speaker 2: I'm gonna confront with you, all right, now, bruh, this
Speaker 2: is jarring.
Speaker 3: How ugly she is and how fun he is.
Speaker 5: He he Dominican, he older, he he I looking, he
Speaker 5: got a little garter, so he's he's in the play party.
Speaker 2: Let me describe what she looks like.
Speaker 5: Bro, you gotta watch the video to see where easy saying,
Speaker 5: it's given the Natalie mention, it's given the Andrew Schultz
Speaker 5: knows times to what the no, I did.
Speaker 3: Not feel bad.
Speaker 2: No, by the way, let me describe me.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a Dominican black dude, says six five, and
Speaker 1: he's very fit.
Speaker 2: Has partnered with my soulmate. She is a funny.
Speaker 4: Looking white woman.
Speaker 2: I'd go Eastern Europe. Europe those features, yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to have. I don't even suck.
Speaker 5: So anyways, so outside of outside of that couple, which
Speaker 5: they played separately, thank god, so I was in he
Speaker 5: bitch he lived in Astorias, So I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this this could be cool. I end up meeting matching
Speaker 5: the other couple next and bitch I was thrown off him.
Speaker 5: And so it's a black guy and an Asian girl.
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