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Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make a horrible decisions.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a bonus.

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Speaker 1: Bitch, y'all, we are on our bonus episode.

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Speaker 3: Jay y'all have to join us for another one one day.

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Speaker 3: But I have to talk about how I met Jay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a Keen walks in my house, a Keen woods

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Speaker 1: and he's on the phone talking about somebody with his

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Speaker 1: other friend.

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Speaker 2: And this is how I loved.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, he'll be great on horrible.

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Speaker 1: You know when you don't need to know someone and

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Speaker 1: you jump into the marble. Keen walks in and was like,

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Speaker 1: so basically he's not even coming out to his wife.

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Speaker 1: It's going to bathroom, pays me the phone with Jay.

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Speaker 1: Now me and Jay talking, Yeah, And he was like,

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Speaker 1: that's how they be, girl. We don't know each other's

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Speaker 1: name nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were we were ruining some poor man's

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Speaker 4: life because of decisions.

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Speaker 5: He also, wait a second, one of y'all were fucking married.

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Speaker 4: I was not mad. I mean, not a married man,

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Speaker 4: but he's my man, my married man. But that's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So this was a conversation about somebody fucking on somebody marl.

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Speaker 4: Someone, Uh, people were we hopped in the mystery machine. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and so the gang discovered that someone was pulling some capers.

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Speaker 4: So what happened is our mutual friend I came found

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Speaker 4: out that someone who was very straight and kind of

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Speaker 4: not super public facing because we don't know how far

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Speaker 4: their career is going to take off, but public facing

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Speaker 4: enough that I was like, wait a second, married and straight,

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Speaker 4: but hanging out at the party at these particular gay shenanigans. Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, interesting and the.

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Speaker 1: Wife listen, let's just say I ain't gonna say well ethnicity.

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Speaker 1: When I saw the wedding, it was one of the

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Speaker 1: weddings that'd be a few days.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

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Speaker 2: It's an arranged marriage, and she's a beard.

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Speaker 4: See and because that particular demographic does grow beards very well.

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Speaker 4: I say that negatively and literally I agree.

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Speaker 5: You know, because me and my friend have had this

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Speaker 5: that's a good Hollywood marriage. But also not only that,

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Speaker 5: she could be lesbian and her culture doesn't accept it.

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Speaker 3: So that works great way for arranged marriages to go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that would make sense in today's world.

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Speaker 4: Especially lavender marriages, especially when you lavender marriages. That was

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Speaker 4: huge in like early twentieth century, mid twentieth century, like

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Speaker 4: a lesbian and a man who just couldn't find the

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Speaker 4: right girl would eventually marry for I mean that happened

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Speaker 4: with one of the most famous marriages, like that. It

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Speaker 4: was Harlem Renaissance, was it County Color or was it

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Speaker 4: Bruce Nuga there was, Like there have been multiple instances

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Speaker 4: throughout American history where a gay man and a sapphic woman,

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Speaker 4: or like just a woman who was bisexual, or just

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Speaker 4: a woman who wanted to get married and get her

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Speaker 4: dad and her family off her back. She goes, I'm

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Speaker 4: married this gay man. Y'all gonna be happy, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I was just looking at a marriage.

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Speaker 5: I was just looking up and I don't remember which

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Speaker 5: empire because I like looking into like the Dynasty, the

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Speaker 5: Roman Empire, all these things, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: kings that literally would have just straight gay orgies, even

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Speaker 5: though they're a queen, even though they have children, and

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Speaker 5: they're really.

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Speaker 2: Into gay orgies.

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Speaker 5: And it's just like, but again, batter sexuality, especially knowing

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Speaker 5: that there was such a religious ordeal and so many

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Speaker 5: of these uh empires and parts of the world nigga.

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Speaker 2: They wasn't just letting you be a gay ass king queen.

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Speaker 4: Technical and think about it, it wasn't great technically, it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just that. It was also the fact that, like,

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Speaker 4: if we're even looking at the kind of lens we've

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Speaker 4: used sexuality through a modern one, that's that's so recent,

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Speaker 4: long long, long ago. They will go straight or gay.

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Speaker 4: These are words we haven't even like codified and said yet.

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Speaker 4: All we know is, yeah, maybe you fuck guys. But

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Speaker 4: what I need you to do is produce a male

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Speaker 4: air so we can have another king, so we don't

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Speaker 4: have to have a dance of the dragons. That's what

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Speaker 4: I need. I need you to have reprince with this woman,

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Speaker 4: or at least make sure that somehow she gets pregnant

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Speaker 4: has a boy. That's it. After that, do whatever you

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Speaker 1: If they were less homophobic, then to think about it, all.

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Speaker 4: Of the Christian pre Christian societies.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, when you think of the Grecian and Roman times,

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Speaker 1: of these orgies, of the culture of just homosexuality, painting, Oh.

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Speaker 2: The Egyptians, that y is Roman. I do wonder if

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Speaker 5: Then from hey, y'all this is not a religious podcast,

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Speaker 5: but from the Christian the Christian lens which made which

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Speaker 4: And the King James Bible. There's rumors that King James

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Speaker 4: had male lovers or a male lovers. So the King

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Speaker 4: James Bible, the definitive Bible for American Christians, a gay

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Speaker 4: man was like take that part out, Like, yes, there's

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Speaker 4: very substantial evidence that there's so many people throughout the

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Speaker 4: history that kind of like made us be all things

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Speaker 4: get to look at it through an actual queer lens

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Speaker 4: and we get to go, oh, maybe Lincoln was kind

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Speaker 4: gay it is to be, like in't gonna get married? Yes,

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Speaker 4: niece do all the first lady stuff. Like it's been

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Speaker 4: go to that whenever we found this stuff out, we're like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, when you found out that the Greeks

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Speaker 4: and the Romans not only like had gay sex, but

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Speaker 4: in Greek times there was a shoemaker who would make

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Speaker 4: pacifiers for women, but for adult women, and a pascifier

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Speaker 4: was just a dildough. Are you a gay encyclopedia, No,

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Speaker 4: I found this stuff out, I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: If you think about anthropology, well it was it wasn't

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Speaker 4: That's what it was. It was. I mean, when you

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Speaker 4: people have been around since there have been people for sure,

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Speaker 4: because we didn't set up these rules until we started

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Speaker 4: be the blame for stuff. Because if our closest genetic

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Speaker 4: like chimps are part of like the like all humans

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Speaker 4: like the fight, and humans like war.

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Speaker 5: And chips like chimpanzee. You know what's crazy and I

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Speaker 5: don't believe it.

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Speaker 4: But here's a crazy.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe in evolution. I don't actually I do know.

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Speaker 5: I swear to God. No, but white people didn't say,

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Speaker 5: y'all niggas came from monkeys.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe it because.

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Speaker 5: Then came from now They said they ain't come from money,

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Speaker 5: they came from monkey.

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Speaker 4: They just said people know how many they? Yes, black

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Speaker 4: people came from It's not just us.

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Speaker 1: I would also like to you know, she has two degrees. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but science, but I got a science science to get

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Speaker 2: White people came from lizards. What no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: I really thought that they said only black people came

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Speaker 1: I just really never seen the evolution of man. It's

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Speaker 2: That's because they don't want black people in this book.

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Speaker 4: Man. No, but many we would appointed. But the point

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Speaker 4: if Bonobo's if we Share ninety is like a Pygmy champ.

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Speaker 4: But they were. They just became their own species. Eventually.

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Speaker 4: Here's a crazy party. We shared ninety eighty seven percent

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Speaker 4: of our DNA with them, and these animals are gay

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Speaker 4: as fucky. They have sex for pleasure, they have they

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Speaker 4: do tons of kind of lingis like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I just saw I just saw eight shit

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Speaker 2: Bitch, I'd be.

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Speaker 4: Loving this animal video.

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Speaker 2: Heat to come.

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Speaker 4: No, girl, you were on the two train. That was

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Speaker 4: not an eight. You were running laid here.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys about this conversation I

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Speaker 2: So I basically was having this.

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Speaker 1: Conversation at a pool party where I'm like, yo, I'm

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Speaker 1: no shame, right, Yeah, And I talked about how I said.

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Speaker 1: But you know, even though like I was gay for real,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, if it was not for the shame that

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Speaker 3: I'm on a full on debate with five niggas. They

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Speaker 2: They gonna lie and girl.

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Speaker 1: Actually, one said, and I really appreciate it. He said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what are you trying to say. You're saying if I

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Speaker 1: didn't grow up in this world, I might be gay.

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Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm not saying you might be gay.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe that if you never grew up

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Speaker 2: Boom, that's all.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think you may have. I kindab believe

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Speaker 2: Wait were they all black?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's it. I'll even add to that. You want

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Speaker 4: to know something crazy, The parameters for what they consider

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Speaker 4: queer activity also kind of shift culturally and also shift

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Speaker 4: with time. Because if you say, oh, hey, i'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go share this porn video with my homeboys, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: take turns jerking off in the computer room. But here's

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Speaker 4: the crazy part. When you did it in middle school,

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Speaker 4: when you did it at sleep away camp, if you saw,

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Speaker 4: if you knew that, if you knew what your teammates

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Speaker 4: dicks look like, that's not gay because of why why

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Speaker 4: isn't that gay. Why are these interactions gay?

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're just changing in a room.

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Speaker 4: Talking about it, if you know about it, if you

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Speaker 4: also know what attracted man looks like, if you talk

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Speaker 4: about the poor and you like that's all like believe.

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Speaker 2: Like does that make sex?

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Speaker 4: Does that make you gay?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make you get gay.

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Speaker 6: But it makes you're make you men sharing different links

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Speaker 6: of sex.

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Speaker 1: It's basically like, I agree, that's not what he did

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Speaker 5: Don't look his faith, my over masculine and freaking out about.

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Speaker 3: Some men say that I don't even think MMF is gay.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, you know what, the way that black

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Speaker 4: I mean because some people like bvuh.

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Speaker 4: Get I get very sad because those women are also

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's the chair Hollo and me and the

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Speaker 2: So what I learned, oh you know, not only what

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Speaker 5: This one, I already know, nigga's gonna be like, oh

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Speaker 2: But also they single. I can't find a nigga.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned sexuality of love, there's something I didn't realize

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Speaker 4: But also there's a crazy part I think with women

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Speaker 4: They go, it's in the book bag. What do you

441
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 4: mean where the dick is? Where's the dick? The dick

442
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: is in the air, the dick is in the love. Also,

443
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 4: how many women are coming from said dick and how

444
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 4: many women are coming from so many other things.

445
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: The centric shit that you're talking about.

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: I didn't specifically use that word, but the interesting thing

447
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: that I started to figure out was like I talked

448
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: about how the masculinity went away from me, so I

449
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't think I could be with her until a bad

450
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: moment happened, right my dad had a stroke and she

451
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: was there for me, and I was like, oh, just

452
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: that safety, and that made me think, oh, she's my

453
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: man now in a very strange way, like, oh, I

454
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: can be with her the ways that in my brain

455
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: I had to as a bisexual person.

456
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 3: I will say this no offense to anybodysexuals. I believe this.

457
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: My lesbian friends feel way more natural in their relationships

458
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: in ways where my brain makes questions. I find it

459
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: difficult to like navigate certain situations, whether it be paying

460
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: or like being masculine in moments. And I don't think

461
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: my lesbians friends have that because they don't also date men.

462
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: I think they just go.

463
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you gotta be like ash ketcherman,

464
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 4: have your hat turned around. That's that's you putting on.

465
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: I think that embodying energy from both aspects of like

466
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: this gender dynamic we set up in relationships like I'm

467
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: by but I'm married to a man, and people go, oh, jay,

468
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 4: or how does that work? And I go the way

469
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: that works is that I'm in a gay relationship with

470
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: this man. But me as an individual, as a bisexual

471
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: who's had sex with women, who has had sex with women,

472
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 4: who's had sex with people with vaginas, who's had sex

473
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: with men, there's so many scary points where people go, oh,

474
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 4: it's not by enough, because in everyone's brain, a bisexual

475
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: has to be a vampire roam in the streets, like

476
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 4: having sex with you know, I'm in one day and

477
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 4: a man the next day to balance it out.

478
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: I hate that you just said that because that's where

479
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 5: my mind went. My immediate question next was gonna be like, oh,

480
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 5: so wait how no, no, no, not even how it

481
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 5: was going to be like, so when does he let

482
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 5: you have sex with women? Because because to me being

483
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: bisexual and even within my relationship, I think that's why

484
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 5: even now finding this partner, we had a threesome. Yeah,

485
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 5: we just had a threeson and I'm like, oh, we're

486
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 5: gonna have fun. We gonna do this, come up to

487
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 5: New York and come do the sex club with me.

488
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 5: Because I realized how much I actually do sexually need both.

489
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 5: Now I don't want to romantically be with a woman.

490
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 5: I only want to romantically be with a man. However,

491
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 5: I need women, So do you need to have sex

492
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 5: with women too?

493
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 4: I have had my longest relationship is the one of

494
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 4: my husband, so romantically, I have way more experience dating

495
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 4: a man and being with a man and cohabitating with

496
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: a man, but also my experiences with going on dates

497
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 4: with women, my experiences with having sex with women, both

498
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 4: in college post college in New York. I think that

499
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: you definitely will go, oh, I'm more used to this,

500
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: I have more experience with this, but I'm very much

501
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: open to this. And that wasn't something you even knew

502
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: you could have. I didn't even know could have that.

503
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: I came out as buy in college in theater department,

504
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 4: and everyone was like, whatever is the best place to

505
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 4: come out? Exactly everyone knew, I say, I because, well,

506
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: the crazy part is like I kissed a boy in

507
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: like costuming, and I was like, this is cliche. I'm

508
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: out of a closet, in a closet kissing a boy

509
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: with a girl's name in a theater department, shout out

510
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 4: to McKenzie. But I was just like this Stone. I

511
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: was like, Jay, you are such a hack. Why are

512
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: you doing all these things? And so my experiences have

513
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 4: always been like, oh, we're a bit more felm coded,

514
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: because like the big fear for a lot of people

515
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 4: is they go, oh, that gay boy is tricking that

516
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: woman for so long, that's the narrative, and it's like,

517
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: what's going to happen? And I'm married my husband who

518
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 4: is the love of my life, and I've been with

519
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: We've been dating for thirteen years, we've been married for

520
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: two years. I'm thirty six and he's thirty. He's just

521
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: turned thirty one. So we met. We met my final

522
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: year of undergrad and then I went to grad school.

523
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: We were long distance. We're gonna let's see if this works.

524
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 4: And then moved to New York in twenty fifteen and

525
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: he came up here, and then we moved in together

526
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 4: in September because I was here in July, and also

527
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: that whole time, once again we were like, if this

528
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: dumb work, we're both in New York, we're both where

529
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: we want to be and need to be, we will

530
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: part ways. And so then we just realized, oh, this

531
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: is working. But I'm never gonna deny myself my attraction

532
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: to women. I'm never gonna deny myself my ability to

533
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 4: articulate that am I desire to have sex with women?

534
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: Because what happens when you don't do that is that

535
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: people start to be like, wait a second, why do

536
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: you comment under this picture like this? Like every now

537
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: and then i'll see what. I'll see one of my

538
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: friends who's gay, and I'll be like, I'm not gonna

539
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: say you're not gay, gay women, gay man. I'm not

540
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: going to say you're not gay, but I'm gonna say

541
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: you got that dog. Listen, you got that dog? You

542
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: you a little bit of a dog. I'm seeing the likes,

543
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: I'm seeing some of the I'm seeing some of the comments.

544
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm seeing the way you interact with women. Just explore.

545
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: I've let them do that. We don't let me.

546
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

547
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 5: There's a nigga I got a crush on right now.

548
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 5: He's like one of the Peloton niggas.

549
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one? No?

550
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: No, no, you know he looks like he's Spanish. I

551
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 5: don't know his name. I just started following him, and

552
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 5: you know it don't show you the most recent.

553
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: That you follow I always let me.

554
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: Oh wait is this no? This is another nigga? So

555
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: he's so gorgeous.

556
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 5: And when I went through his page, I still followed him,

557
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 5: but I immediately checked him up to he ain't on

558
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 5: my team because all my gay homeboys was in the likes.

559
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 5: And then I went through the comments. When I see that,

560
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, he and my team. Then I went

561
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 5: through the comments and probably very innocent. He does respond

562
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: to everyone, so I'm like, oh and he responded to

563
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 5: the boys.

564
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was like, I was like, he's gay.

565
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 5: So literally, I'm on my Live last night and I'm

566
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 5: trying to show them my views on ugly media, muggly media,

567
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: muggly and find niggas, but this nigga fine. But I

568
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 5: was like, I think he's gay. Everyone in the comments

569
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: was like, no, girl, he not gay. And now I'm like,

570
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: I gotta go back through the page.

571
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna find him. But he's

572
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: so fine. But comments can comments.

573
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: Social media? Well, here's because people, the algorithm is the

574
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: sexuality at that point. The views are the sexuality at

575
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: that point.

576
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I know gays, but like this, there might be fifty

577
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: thousand likes, but I know four.

578
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 7: Four gays and you went, I don't know is what

579
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 7: is gage is now.

580
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: Okay, but I think that, like, I have a friend

581
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: who he's my age, and this is the first year

582
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 4: that he said, you know, I'm gonna try to date women.

583
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: He's not like actively trying to like date every girl,

584
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: but he like if he's vibing with a girl, and

585
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: because a lot of times people would be like will

586
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: write him off. If he's vibing with a girl, he'll go, oh,

587
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: you want to go get coffee, you want to go

588
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: get dinner, you want to get lunch. He's trying his

589
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: best to navigate that, not because he's not gay anymore,

590
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 4: but because he's like, let me just see what has

591
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: been your.

592
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: Experience with black women, specifically telling them you're bisexual.

593
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: It's a generational thing. It's I'm secure was young to me,

594
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's so generational. Also, I'm friends

595
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: with Langston, so it's very funny that so like, who

596
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: was the character that, well, Langston played the guy that

597
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: Molly didn't want to date because he had experience with

598
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: a woman. One time. I would think I would. I would.

599
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: I can say that for the most part now, and

600
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: because I'm friends with so many kind of like alternative

601
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: fun black girls they there, everyone's down, Christina. We like,

602
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: I've talked about it with a bunch of different people.

603
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: But I think the older Black women there is gonna

604
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: be a fear and that has to be sort of

605
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: like slowly but surely changed over time.

606
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: I think that has to do as well, just with

607
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: the stigma that was associated with gay sex.

608
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: And HIV family.

609
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna tell you why I think it won't

610
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: go away.

611
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: You tell me because there's because the crazy thing that

612
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: we just found out about uh HIV is that it's

613
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: affecting white is affecting black heterosexual women more.

614
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Do you know what a lot of this is attributed

616
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: to is a lot of the states in where abortions

617
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: now illegal, is keeping women from going to the doctor

618
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: if you're fround pregnant in some of these states and

619
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: you choose not to keep it.

620
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: But that's also so new.

621
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: No, but these rates rising are specific to these places.

622
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 5: But I wonder like with the black women specifically as well,

623
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: because Roe v. Wade was just last year. Yeah, so

624
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: the statistical clific cities though, right, but the.

625
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: Dallas, Texas with it, I mean, yeah, the rates also

626
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: have risen within ninety days.

627
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one hundreds on a global scale, like and especially.

628
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 5: HIV black women. But that's what I'm saying with Roe V.

629
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: Wade in that fear that's within the last year. This

630
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: has been a thing for like now the last five.

631
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Years, it has, But I'm just saying, like, some of

632
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: it is attributed to the fact that they don't even

633
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: want to go see the doctor.

634
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: So now we have women that don't know their status.

635
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: And I also think that like because for the longest

636
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: time HIV was seen as a gay disease, I think

637
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: that's so many heterosexual people don't even know about PREP

638
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: at all. They know nothing. We don't talk about enough.

639
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: And it's partly also because most of the ads are

640
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: just like Forgate, very for gay people. But now they

641
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: are starting to have more black women in in those

642
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: ads and having more I'm talking about. But the thing

643
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: that I want, the thing that I kind of want

644
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: to emphasize that there is such a few year and

645
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: such a stigma about homosexuality, and once again it's tied

646
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: to the patriarchy and about and the church and about

647
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: men not necessarily following the rules that we've set up

648
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: for black masculinity, that at that point they kind of

649
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: just don't know what to do.

650
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: They Oh, this is what I was gonna say. I

651
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna go away. They don't know what

652
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: to do. These people you're talking about, I feel like,

653
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: as the years go on, I don't know if the

654
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: world is growing or if I just have more like

655
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: minded people accessible to me.

656
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: It's probably the latter.

657
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: I think it's both. I think we're seeing we're seeing

658
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: people's brains expand in part because of TikTok and social media,

659
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: and you are kind of like.

660
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Because I.

661
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: Mean community, you're seeing more people coming to you and

662
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: be like girl.

663
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: For example, we post a thing of me talking about gampede.

664
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: On on the comments, the comments on Instagram maybe percent

665
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: like Shade's like, ooh girl, live you'all life, have fun whatever.

666
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter and they're like, oh, we

667
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: need God back and right, And I'm laughing.

668
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: You saying this on Twitter, but you're saying you want

669
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: God back on girl, you're in the head, You're seeing

670
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: it on the bathroom wall in hell.

671
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Your demographic right, you're either welcome. I think Kem even

672
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: made a comment like fuck bro. When I was on

673
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: lip service, they did not fuck with me. And then

674
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: when I was on Horrible, he loved it. They loved him,

675
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: and and he's like.

676
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: You're saying old niggas.

677
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: It's not that demo as much it's her and it's

678
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: not her right. She's talking about.

679
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: Sex, but not Kingkagah. Not stories are out.

680
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: There and also not it Generation X. And I say

681
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: this with love because I know that they're all fifty

682
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: and they figuring out if they're gonna get put in

683
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: the home right now. I love I love that. Not

684
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: a fifty don't do that, then I love them. They

685
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: helped invent hip hop. But Generation X is truly so

686
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: scared of queerness in a way that they they lied

687
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: about Africa Bambada. Do you understand like there have been

688
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: they're so was molesting little boys and they hid that.

689
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: I ain't making it up. Double check it. It's like

690
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: he said, Google's there. But Generation X is so scared

691
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: of queerness in part because of HIV, but also because

692
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: generationally they didn't have anyone who was even allowed to

693
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: be out and they didn't have podcasts. I understand that fear.

694
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: I understand. I grew up in Mississippi. I didn't we

695
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people in my middle school, we

696
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people. So Joe got told we

697
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: didn't have any gay people in my high school. I

698
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: take that back. We had one guy who we called gay,

699
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: but that's just because one time we saw him tucking

700
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: shirt in and that's it.

701
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't think. How old did you say you were.

702
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: I'm thirty six. I wouldn't. I graduated no six.

703
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: So I'm thirty three. I bring that up.

704
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: I did not see gay people growing up until I

705
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: moved to Atlanta and then many I'm from Florida. I

706
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: actually had a gay cousin. Do you know to this

707
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: day we never saw a partner I was.

708
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: We were never introduced to a man.

709
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: I don't even know if he ever had sex, but

710
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: we knew he was gay as a family. That's why

711
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: he loved Jamaica. But like, literally, I didn't grow up

712
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: even seeing gay people.

713
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: I think this is this is.

714
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Again, it's different.

715
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: We grow up right because you know, my mom, my

716
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: godfather was gay. I was born in sam fran but

717
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Mandy and I grew up both grew up in Orlando.

718
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I didn't have that experience. Hey, best friend, I expected

719
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: like I mixed some in high.

720
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: School, middle school in high school.

721
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: You.

722
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: Oh, but in my school, in my high school, we

723
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: had we had a lot of our lesbians. And this

724
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: is not a joke, but that's also because we had

725
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: an amazing women's basketball team. So we were like, they're

726
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: not lesbians, they're winners. Okay, there's a difference.

727
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 8: Okay, it's kind of like and it said, I mean

728
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 8: by finding it, So I grew up seeing all the gays,

729
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 8: right I'm talking about I remember once my father got

730
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 8: in an argument with one of his friends or someone

731
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 8: around because my mom and her gay best friend would

732
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 8: be in the bed watching movies.

733
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: They're still best friends to this day. And I was

734
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: overexposed to it. Right, So I think that I never

735
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: saw the other side. But I say all this because

736
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: when I talk about the tribe, there is also that

737
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: group on Twitter.

738
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: They were not generation.

739
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the.

740
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 6: Crowd or younger millennials and younger shit is always gonna

741
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: be hood shape, broa.

742
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: You click on them niggas and.

743
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: They look the same, and they all kind of have

744
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: that same idea about kink, about me being a whore.

745
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: I also saw a guy retweet the thing about me

746
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: saying I got pissed on and he said how nice

747
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: it must be to be rich, And I thought to myself, Oh,

748
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: he thinks the man that pete on me isbai.

749
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: Literally I saw that as a comment. Oh she's ready

750
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: to go toes. That is that nigga. I know pisses

751
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: free everyone. Everyone could do it. You could get it.

752
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 5: I listen, I have. I have tried water sports in

753
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 5: the shower. I think everyone has the difference.

754
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm trying to sit here and think of the

755
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: correlation with him. I'll be honest with you. And I

756
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: get asked this from my homegirls.

757
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: When I peg men for my own pleasure, they'd be like, girl,

758
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: you ain't charge him. So when it's something that you

759
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: feel like you maybe can't get or it's not accessible,

760
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: or if it's taboo. But god, So I've been in

761
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: therapy dealing with this, like my friends right now, the

762
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: niggas that are all my roster, the niggas that I'm

763
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 5: dealing with, and every time I'm with them, they're like, girl,

764
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 5: how much money you getting?

765
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: How much you're asking for?

766
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: And I was like, do y'all know I'm not in

767
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 5: survival mode and I don't have to charge niggas to

768
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: fuck me anymore, Like and I'm literally arguing with my

769
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: friends down because my nigga's rich and they're like, so,

770
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: how much money are you getting?

771
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: So what are you what are you getting out of it?

772
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 4: I mean, we can also talk about this. There's there's

773
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: a bit there's a bit of a conflation between like

774
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: making sure that the people you date and the people

775
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: you interact with and the people you want to have

776
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: sex with are taking care of themselves, but also if

777
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: you have if they want to buy you something like

778
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 4: the fact that no one is scared when the check

779
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 4: comes to the table versus And this is what's happened

780
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: because of TikTok and a little bit because of Instagram,

781
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: people forgot they were getting advice from from sex workers

782
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 4: and from three or fos about how to find rich

783
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: men in these places. It's like, girl, that's not how

784
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: they were a.

785
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: Whole prostitutes that you were getting, dating advice.

786
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 4: You were getting and here's a and here's a crazy part,

787
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: Like I'm pro sex work. I understand, I understand. This

788
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: is the worst I was professional. Ain't never gonna go away.

789
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: But if you are trying, if you're in in high school,

790
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: if you're in college and your only goal is to

791
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: like get a bag from a dude who you just

792
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: met at a hookah lounge. That not dating. That is like,

793
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: that's like kind of that's a business venture and so,

794
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 4: but you can't like conflate the two.

795
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: Like he really making me think about a friend that's

796
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: in my life. She's from Atlanta and she's moved living

797
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: between New York and LA and basically was recently saying like,

798
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: I haven't dated for loving so long that when I'm

799
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: now dating for love, I almost feel like they're getting

800
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: over on me, you know.

801
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be frustrated, and it should be.

802
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know me, my age she is. She's like, girl, like,

803
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm out here. I've dated Princess, I dated ballplayers, I

804
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: dated these rappers, all these people. Now I'm dating a

805
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: dude who's taking me to dinners. If I have sex

806
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: with them after a few dates, I feel like I

807
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: did it for nothing.

808
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: And she because you deserve because you.

809
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: Content, bro, She's like, and then I click on and

810
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: mind you, this is a grown ass woman. She was like,

811
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm sending your took an on Instagram and on my

812
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: algorithm because all the holes I know, and all I'm

813
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: saying is, this is how you get it, This is

814
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: how you live yourself like this, how you do this.

815
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: She's like, I can't figure out how.

816
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: To I understand we're saying this from places of privilege.

817
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 4: I see the clouds, I see the hat, I see

818
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: the jewels. I understand that if you are in a

819
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: situation where you want to make sure that you're taken

820
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: care of and also you want to make sure that

821
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: you're dating people who can take care of you, but

822
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: like their hat, you have to like them a little bit.

823
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: It is getting weird.

824
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: I had a whole outline about marriage, but I know

825
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: were gonna have you on a care.

826
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 5: We can talk about marriage, but no, no, we gonna

827
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 5: say that, but a whole. But I want to bring

828
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: up this clip I saw.

829
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: I think y'all be so much mon to talk about

830
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: this with little douvall posted this.

831
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: I just I just reposted something about him.

832
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: Is this women cut from South White under belly.

833
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 9: Attracted women are giving advice to average women about entitlement. Now,

834
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 9: in honesty, really beautiful young women can afford to be entitled.

835
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 9: Life is easy for them. This is just an unfair

836
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 9: fact of life. But ultimately you would think that, but

837
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 9: there are still men willing to risk it still pays off.

838
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 9: That entitlement is reserved for the one percent of women.

839
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 9: It's reserved for the hyper beautiful. You really look after themselves.

840
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 9: The problem is these women are the ones that we

841
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 9: see online the most. Now they're saying, this is what

842
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 9: you get out of life. Don't set up for anything less.

843
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 9: Make sure you don't do fifty to fifty blah blah.

844
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 9: That can only applies to the one percent of women.

845
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 9: Majority of women are average. Majority of women don't get

846
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 9: that kind of treatment from men. Majority of women can't

847
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 9: elicit that out of men.

848
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: So when here's my.

849
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: Carment, I said, this is a jadave perspective.

850
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Maybe when it comes to the dating pool, Yes, beautiful

851
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: women have or access to richermond, but I disagree that

852
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: an average looking women can't get a man.

853
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: To pay for everything.

854
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Beyond that, I don't like fifty to fifty preaching because

855
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: it is not about average looks. It is about the

856
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: majority of people not having status or money. I meet

857
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: gorgeous women all the time that work regular jobs, and

858
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: they are not crawling the clubs or igdms looking for

859
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: rich niggas.

860
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: This is podcast talk.

861
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: Normal people exist, and normal people doesn't mean they aren't beautiful.

862
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: I follow at least fifty women that look better than

863
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: this girl have less than the found followers and private pages.

864
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: They are not out here doing interviews. The real world exists.

865
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I am.

866
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: So tired of us thinking that beauty money stat like

867
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: this is Instagram thought.

868
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

869
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 4: It not only is the Instagram thought, it's also click

870
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: driven bait. The sex is women. Some of the sexiest women.

871
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: You know what they do. They third grade teachers in

872
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: places that don't pay teachers nearly enough. Hell, they are

873
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: not They are not bottle service girls. They are not

874
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: going to Dubai to get pooped on under glass table.

875
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: They are truly just women, Black women in particular, trying

876
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: to make money in America. And that's hard.

877
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: You know why we think that these girls aren't pretty anywhere.

878
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: I've realized when a girl's walking on the street that

879
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: has an ig batty look BBL maybe certain fillers or

880
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: even dark hair, big eyebrows, just a certain makeup, even aesthetic,

881
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: that is what even these ig met like. That is

882
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: the thing that we see rich people, money, charter planes,

883
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: we think they look like Kim.

884
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: We do. So when you.

885
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: See a hot, quote unquote normal looking black.

886
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm gonna say, just like this, if we saw

887
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Union or Megan Good walking down the street, we

888
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: probably think not as them as a celebrity when in

889
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: regular clos like oh she's cute, but we don't glamorize it.

890
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of girl looks.

891
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things on line now though that

892
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: do live the soft girl life or do preach it.

893
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 5: Or even the girl who didn't want to be taken

894
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: to the cheesecake factory, and because she looked normal, everyone

895
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: in the comments was.

896
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: Like, you don't.

897
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: You don't deserve to speak this way. People feel as

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: though average looking women don't deserve to ask for more,

899
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: which is actually what she's just saying, like no, you

900
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: don't have to settle, like and we talk about it

901
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: all the time, like when I want to know when

902
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: I look bro, I was talking, I was fucking millionaires.

903
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: Happened first, like doing all the things as a big bitch.

904
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 5: And people that watch this goddamn podcast was like she lying,

905
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 5: ain't no way she getting that. I do not pop

906
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: niggas thought I was lying about my motherfucking life. I

907
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 5: ain't got a motherfucking life.

908
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: But y'all do the niggas on my phone.

909
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Right now, y'all be old.

910
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: Bitch, Like we have to even like dissect the fact that, like, no,

911
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: at no point in time has everyone's dating life and

912
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: the way they go about securing dates and finding love

913
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: and who's paying for it's never been so public. So

914
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: now everyone's being like, oh, I'm going I'm going this.

915
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: They go, oh, I'm gonna go to this place and

916
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna order this. And now people are showing your

917
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: seats now all the time. I hate that, am I

918
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 4: seeing your receipts?

919
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Why is the.

920
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: Question now how much money should be spent on a

921
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: first date? And they're really doing that man on the

922
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 5: street style, and there's people who are saying it has

923
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: to be a certain dollar amount. And so that's where

924
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: maybe your friend dating now regular comparing to what.

925
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: She's getting actually to her, well, I don't know the

926
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: word I'm trying to say, but basically not to her fault.

927
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: But she literally was like, it's not like.

928
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: I'm expecting them to do with these other men.

929
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm blaming myself thinking of how many steps it took

930
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: me to fuck? And my friend can't do they really

931
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: like me because these regular dudes will play you too.

932
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: And we're like, and I've had these girls drilling to

933
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: my head like, oh you need to be with a

934
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: rich guy crying the Bentley, don't cry in the Hunter.

935
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: She's like, so, now dating for love is so hard

936
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: because I can't figure out what I'm doing.

937
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: But then what happens. What happens if you cry in

938
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: the Bentley enough that y'all break up? And then people go,

939
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: now she's a homie hopper because you've told all these

940
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: people you can't ever go back to a certain lifestyle choice.

941
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 4: So now you got a date a person that friend

942
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: group or a person who is in that circle because

943
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: you have to cry in a different Bentley. And now

944
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: all the comments aren't oh she's living soft girl life,

945
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: it's oh she's a homie hopper. Oh she's an industry thought.

946
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: Oh she's just bopping around. It's never going. And I'm

947
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: saying this as a person who is like, I'm not

948
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: a socialist. I'm not a socialist at all, but like

949
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 4: that you have let top tier late stage capitalism infect

950
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: your brain because now you're like, oh, you know what

951
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: I need? I need this. You there's not a person

952
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 4: who I know who needs one hundred thousand dollars vehicle.

953
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: If you need it, go get it. But you don't

954
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: need it. You want to show a future of it.

955
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 4: You don't care about that car. You don't care. It's

956
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: just it's weird because it's part of the landscape, it's

957
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: part of the economy, it's part of like it's never

958
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: gonna go away, a feeling.

959
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: Like you need the next thing.

960
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: We had this conversation last night at dinner talk slightly

961
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: about it. A woman named arsenal Ursula Burns that I

962
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: produced a show with that basically talked about how much

963
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: matters money. She's a billionaire, and she said, after a

964
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: million dollars, it's not the same anymore. Right, So then

965
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: at dinner we were like, how much money do you need.

966
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: To where you don't think about it anymore?

967
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact for me that number

968
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: was in the four I stopped thinking about what I

969
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: was spending now.

970
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 5: Nig I just talked about this in therapy. For the

971
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: last couple of years, I didn't look at the price

972
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: tag of nothing. But I guess after that number, Yeah,

973
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: what do you want now? Because I was thinking, yeah, oh,

974
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: I just want a better car than a Tesla. Now

975
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 5: I want a bigger apartment. Now I want a bigger

976
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 5: I want to always fly first. Now I want this.

977
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 5: I don't want gold plated.

978
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm needing stress.

979
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: The money isn't I was doing these things right right,

980
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: Like I can eat out without looking at the orders

981
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: of eat.

982
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: That price tag that he's talking about is for other people.

983
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And because the comfort, comfort and security and not

984
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: having to worry and not having those that peace of

985
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: mind that you clear that benchmark and then you're kind

986
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: of now you're getting into like choices. You're getting in like, oh,

987
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: this is this is a matter of option one A

988
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 4: versus option one. B Oh, I don't know, I really.

989
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Do I want the Jackie bag? Or do I just

990
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: want a new clutch?

991
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: Do I really.

992
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: Need do I want one Grand Caviart exactly?

993
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: It's literally it's not real decisions.

994
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: And I'm saying this as a person, and this is

995
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: a this is life flex. I've been on TV quite

996
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 4: a lot. I have a very good stand up career

997
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: currently going. There is a level of success financially and

998
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: professionally where you kind of go Okay. So now if

999
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm ripping and running, it needs to be for a passion.

1000
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: Project needs to be something I love, something I want.

1001
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: And when you left that business mindset about your professional

1002
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: life creep into like your love life. Oh my god,

1003
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: it would poison you, it would make you, It would

1004
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: drive you crazy if you went oh, because now.

1005
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 5: Am I going to put in the transaction of this relationships?

1006
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: Exactly?

1007
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: People if they're hand in hands and they can't be

1008
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Now it's the contrary. I do think we all should

1009
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: be dating someone that is equal or better.

1010
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone here is trying to Kevin Samuel's

1011
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: this conversation.

1012
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Girls should meet people where they're at as far as like,

1013
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: let's say you make mad bread, you meet a dude

1014
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: who doesn't make as much as you.

1015
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: What's that line? Look, you disagree because when I was poor,

1016
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 5: I wanted original.

1017
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: Well here's the thing. If I wasn't in a date another,

1018
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: But Maddie, I think that you. I think that you

1019
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: are also you from the interacts we've had today, You're

1020
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: also capable of being like, I don't really like this

1021
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 4: rich nigga. So you know what he gets this much

1022
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: of me, this much of my time, this much of

1023
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: my energy because.

1024
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: The primary but I'm getting whole bunch of.

1025
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: But that's what we're saying, having having a having a roster,

1026
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 4: and having the ability to say, oh, I can invest

1027
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: this much time in this person. I have the time,

1028
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 4: Assilles go, oh, I really like this for this quality.

1029
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: I like this person this quality. That's a little bit

1030
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: different than saying I have to be unhappy with this

1031
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: man because I like this And there's.

1032
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: No option anymore for in this economy for us to

1033
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: be saying we can only date someone that makes X,

1034
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: y Z more because at the end of the day,

1035
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: for me, I work in entertainment.

1036
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: At the end of the day to day, don't eat.

1037
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: And decide that I can't work anymore, don't want to

1038
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: work anymore. Is the man that owns real estate and

1039
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: is learning how to flip it and is doing all

1040
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: this shit that's more valuable to me, Like wait, and.

1041
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: It's got these things in their hands. You did j mvy.

1042
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: Not want peak color bas.

1043
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 4: There is no here's it okay? But I also think that,

1044
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: like it's such an economics and love and race, these

1045
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 4: are all conversations that like black people are trying to

1046
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: have online on podcasts, in person, sometimes in seminar, and

1047
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: sometimes with our friends. They're like, whenever you start to

1048
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: like put all of these conversations in the same pot,

1049
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: everything like we've been discussing becomes so confusing. You can say, oh,

1050
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 4: I really want to make sure that I love the man,

1051
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 4: I love the person that I'm with. Oh, that's a conversation.

1052
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: You can say, oh, how do I make sure that

1053
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: I myself am setting up myself for a good financial

1054
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: future both at work and also making sure that I'm

1055
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 4: dating someone who we're not scared when a bill comes. Yes,

1056
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 4: that's a different conversation. I think. Also there's another conversation

1057
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 4: where goes what am I holding on to certain mindsets

1058
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 4: and certain mentalities from antiquity from yester year that are

1059
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: limiting me as a black person in twenty twenty four?

1060
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: Are there moments where I'm saying shit, where I'm like,

1061
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 4: why why am I thinking this way? Why am I

1062
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: really looking at it like this? I think these are

1063
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: three different.

1064
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: Conversations that we're seeing.

1065
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: Well, it's the content, but also is because the content

1066
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 4: drives clicks, which drives likes, which drives, and it drives

1067
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: these meta conversations that then become real conversations because then

1068
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: people talk about it. But like my favorite example of

1069
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 4: this is like people, I'm glad we brought up Gabrielle Union.

1070
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: This is what people talk about when talk about Gabrielle Union.

1071
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: Here's the thing they don't go. They don't go Gabrielle Union.

1072
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, one of the best black actors of

1073
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: our time.

1074
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 5: I mean, she's a lot. We never said she's one

1075
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 5: of the best actors.

1076
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: We do not ever say that.

1077
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: You're you're wait wait, I think I'm not thinking she

1078
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 5: has never been one of the best Black actors of

1079
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 5: our time.

1080
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: I'm putting Gabrielle Union career.

1081
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: We've been with Angela Bassett. Can I tell you we're

1082
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: not going to do that. We have to do that,

1083
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: you bring up gabriel Union like this. I had this

1084
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: in a micro conversation. Was on a plane watching deliver

1085
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Us from either Yeah Black Girl next to me and

1086
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: said to me, we do not give this enough credits.

1087
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: She is a good literally said because look what I'm

1088
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: watching on my iPad and flipped being married Jane and.

1089
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad it got two seasons, but this one look

1090
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: like she's cool, but she is not one of the

1091
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: best Black I like her. Let's be very clear.

1092
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: I didn't she not one of the best Black said she.

1093
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: I didn't say she was.

1094
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Viola All doesn't even show up.

1095
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's talk about Let's say this, so when

1096
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: we when we talk about Gabriel Union, we don't say, oh,

1097
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 4: she is a very talented black actress there who we love,

1098
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: whose career has spent decades. Who I'm gonna give you all.

1099
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: You will agree with all the ones before.

1100
00:52:52,920 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Viola, Regina King, Okay, Carrie, Yeah, was in.

1101
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 4: All the three moments? Then you only have two you

1102
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: want to have to I was.

1103
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: Cool with that whole first five. Or maybe you only

1104
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: have to so not once to not you could have

1105
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: just stop right there.

1106
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: This is about you. This is about you and the party.

1107
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: Thinking no, no, no, sticking around. Sticking around does not mean

1108
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: that you were one of the best. Even the roles

1109
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: that they played. Bro Mid is what I was range.

1110
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: But Union is in the same us.

1111
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: This book is a cop because I loved her book.

1112
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: You know why she was able to write her books great.

1113
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Because that's how her personal life.

1114
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 4: You can't tell you. But but but let's talk about it.

1115
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: So when we talk about Union Fox, there we go.

1116
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 4: We talked about reunion. Who at least the right who's

1117
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: the same thing?

1118
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: No, yeah, iconic, iconic, icon is crazy, man, do you

1119
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: know that?

1120
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 4: But then who's But then who's iconic and black?

1121
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 5: To you, I said that whole first group she named

1122
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: this is in the first group that mainstream Garyel Vinegar

1123
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: Fox is one of ours. I'm sorry, I didn't know

1124
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 5: we were talking about BTT black busses.

1125
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: No, girl, we didn't say that.

1126
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: We do.

1127
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: Also also, if we want to, we can talk about it.

1128
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 4: We can talk about we can talk about Nedda and Charles.

1129
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: But no, but you see, we know. But good, okay,

1130
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: this is the five. Okay, So we have Gabriel Union.

1131
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: And when we bring up Gabriel Union, we have talk.

1132
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: We talk about the fact that she starting from there,

1133
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: let's know, you know, we talk about the fact that

1134
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: she said that her and her multimainionaire NBA ed husband

1135
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: they went fifty to fifty people. I can't buy Leiaving.

1136
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't. I can definitely believe. At

1137
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: some point they were like, oh, we split some stuff

1138
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think. I don't necessarily think that's a

1139
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: crazy conversation. Belie. It's fifty to fifty, but it's probably

1140
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: not about splits of different fractions. It's not big.

1141
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: But hold on, you know what it is too, women

1142
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: with wealth, women with long standing careers.

1143
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: No one wants to sit there and not have a

1144
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: piece of the pie. It must feel to be.

1145
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: Able to say, wait a minute, you can't kick me out,

1146
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: wait an I pad, because that is the.

1147
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: Big man man right now making the same money you made,

1148
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: fell in love.

1149
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: You guys want to.

1150
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: Buy a property together?

1151
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 5: No, I'm not well, first if he's bying property with

1152
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: a nigga. Never, I'm not doing any more business fifty

1153
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 5: fifty with anybody into a place together.

1154
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1155
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: No, So here's the thing too, and my well, me

1156
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 5: and my ex even had this conversation. So because we

1157
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 5: weren't making the same amount of money, there was no

1158
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 5: way in hell it would make sense. And even for him,

1159
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: of course, the things that we even wanted, what I

1160
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 5: want stealing four windows door, man, I can afford that

1161
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: that motherfucker lived in Harlem.

1162
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: I think he was lucky to have elevation.

1163
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 5: So no, so what I'm saying is knowing that we

1164
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: did make differences in money, which is be clear, Gabrielle

1165
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 5: Union and Dwayne Wade make differences of money.

1166
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: Don't believe it should be fifty to fifty at all.

1167
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 5: And so if me and him would have moved into

1168
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 5: an apartment that was seven grand a month, because the

1169
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: two bedrooms that I was looking at at the time

1170
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 5: were that, I wouldn't expect him to pay thirty five hundred.

1171
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 3: You meet a man today, you guys make the same.

1172
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has an apartment, I have my apartment. I

1173
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: don't want to live with a nigga bro.

1174
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 4: But I think the conversation instead of talking about.

1175
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, two wealthy black people, they're building

1176
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: a life together.

1177
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: But then I guess what I wanted to add to that.

1178
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 4: I was like, what I wanted to add to that

1179
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: was that people instead of just being like, Oh, let's

1180
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: have a conversation about black love, all, let's have a

1181
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: conversation about like two wealthy black people together, they also

1182
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: were like, Oh, let's talk about the fact that like

1183
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: she emasculates him, all, let's talk about the fact that

1184
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: they have a trans child. I was like to say, so,

1185
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: why are we trying to have all of those conversations

1186
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: together all at the same time, Because the minute that

1187
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: even when y'all wants to do something it sexually different

1188
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: with one of your male partners, the conversation isn't I'm

1189
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: glad women are free, it's they love day and gay niggas.

1190
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: Now it's everyone wants to have seven conversations that once,

1191
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: instead of being like, this is the only thing.

1192
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: People don't know how to compartmentalize.

1193
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear, but it's dwindling back A good commack.

1194
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: Yes, the fucking patriarchy.

1195
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Euni one of the best black ashes of all times.

1196
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: In my top five.

1197
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: You had something to make that wasn't your point.

1198
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: All I was saying was all we do is now

1199
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: find a way to talk back about the sexuality of

1200
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: her husband and masculations a kid, her not being woman enough,

1201
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: or the splitting of the bills, like her not being valued.

1202
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: Another age difference.

1203
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: It's so much conversation and it literally takes her and

1204
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: all of her accolades away because it is man.

1205
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: It's the accolade, hey, you know, but also this is

1206
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: a man this but this is fun and this is

1207
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: like a key other people. Here's the crazy part. Other people, truly,

1208
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: they truly will be like, nah, like this is what

1209
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: happens because they still want to be these are evil

1210
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: kind of like like chauvinistic man. They're like, this is

1211
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 4: what happens when like blah blah blah blah blah, she

1212
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: has too much control. She emasculates him, like she's the

1213
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: reason that he's okay with this. She's the reason that

1214
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: he's like dressing like this. And I'm like, the man

1215
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: lives in Miami.

1216
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: I.

1217
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Think, But also like I also I also think that

1218
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: like when we have conversations like this, it is better.

1219
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: But you know, acknowledging the privilege we are all we

1220
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: are people who are living in New York who like

1221
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: have the ability. But you know what I mean, like

1222
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: people join ourselves because I think some people who have

1223
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: to clock in clock out whenever they get home, when

1224
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: they watch these conversations that kind of go, oh, it's

1225
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: just as a bunch of like wealthy, light skinned New

1226
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: York niggas talking about shit that don't really affect us.

1227
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: And I'm like, listen, I know you think it's that way,

1228
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: but the stuff that we're talking about if I'm saying that,

1229
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: like sexual rigidity is limiting you as a regular ass

1230
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: man from being able to pick up what drink you

1231
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: want to pick up at the bar. You couldn't even

1232
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 4: wear a pink until Cameron let you. Nigga not giving

1233
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 4: it to camera on it, but that isn't I'm not

1234
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: giving it a camp but you know, but jokingly, jokingly,

1235
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: there's so many parts.

1236
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: Funny because y'all want to see here Lizzie now, y'all

1237
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: want to suck on.

1238
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 5: Kendrick Digg, but y'all letting Drake allow y'all pint y'all

1239
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 5: nails now too.

1240
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: Be very clear and in the wildest part of that

1241
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: whole situation, and I'm only gonna talk a little bit

1242
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: about Kendrick and Drake is because like people, they instantly went, oh, yeah,

1243
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 4: Kendrick destroyed Drake, and I was like, yes, But, like

1244
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 4: y'all said, need to be more happy with the battle

1245
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 4: than any of the allegations it is. It is weird

1246
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: to be like it's done, but then also be like, uh, kids, yeah,

1247
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: I don't care about that.

1248
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: I was smoking weed and I'm not a good weed smoker.

1249
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: I was in the club and I was dancing like

1250
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and I said a minor and my brain went, oh no,

1251
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: I literally said.

1252
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 5: When they came out, I said, we is not going

1253
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 5: to be in the club yelling out a minor work

1254
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 5: And literally everyone was like this, bitch.

1255
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: Yes you will. Here's here's a wild part. I do

1256
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: think it hopefully will stop some of these dudes from

1257
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: letting them nineteen year old girlfriends in the club, because

1258
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: how you're going to be in a section a minor

1259
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: with a nineteen year old?

1260
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: So nineteen is not a minor with well?

1261
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: With us with the sixteen is not a minor. Well,

1262
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: I mean with your young don't do that.

1263
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. Eighteen and up is

1264
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: an adult.

1265
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 3: And you heard him say, my husband, so do you

1266
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: want to?

1267
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: And I hold you when you did that, I did

1268
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: the math a little bit.

1269
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm not going, but I'm not going. When you all met,

1270
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: he was he was.

1271
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 5: He said, we've been together thirty thirteen years married nine,

1272
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 5: he thirty one.

1273
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: I was like, oh much, yeah, college, but that's.

1274
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

1275
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: But when he was sitting with was it too what's

1276
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: his name to toy and he said, you like teenage girls?

1277
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: And he went nineteen as a teenager.

1278
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: No you say teenage? What age are we talking? And

1279
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: I remember his face?

1280
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: I mean and like, I mean, I get I get

1281
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: a lot of the joy because I play. I played,

1282
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 4: not like way too much. But like every now and

1283
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: then we'll have conversations online will be like, oh this

1284
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: is fun, is fun, and just every now and then

1285
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 4: you want to be like, wait, oh shit, oh shit,

1286
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 4: this is this is like kind of this is a

1287
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 4: little dark.

1288
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 1: We're going to feel bad right now. We don't feel

1289
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: bad because it's not real. What we just saw with

1290
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: Diddy is real. We saw people were.

1291
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 5: People were still sticking up for him until the video,

1292
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 5: until we had bisical evidence and now they're right back.

1293
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: Wasn't they're like a Diddy? The crazy Diddy thing to

1294
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: me was when people were like, yeah, who hasn't tried

1295
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: to blow up Kid Cuddy's car?

1296
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's not.

1297
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 4: He tried to kill Kitty, He tried to.

1298
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: Put that's crazy funny.

1299
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: That's crazy because that like got swept on the rug.

1300
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: My three favorite rappers are not anymore Ito waits in

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Speaker 1: My Darkness fantasy, but it was Kanye, Cuddy and Codek.

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Speaker 5: What anyway, God damn, you let your white side and

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Speaker 5: tell the people where to find.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 4: You can find me all over social media, just at

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Speaker 4: Jay Jurden. My name j y j U r D.

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Speaker 4: And I'm on tour or this summer. You can see

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Speaker 4: me do an hour of stand up. Uh you can.

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Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going to Orlando on the seventeen. Yeah, August, Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I'm in Chicago in August. I'm gonna be at

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Speaker 4: the Labrett Improv in September. I'm gonna be in Phoenix

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Speaker 4: in September, and then I'm gonna be I'll be in

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Speaker 4: La again in October two. I'll be doing my hour

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Speaker 4: at the Dynasty. So okay, have a lot of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to have you back on talk about marror. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we ain't talking about marriage.

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Speaker 4: Well, sexuality. I think for a lot of people, especially

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Speaker 4: especially black podcast listeners, I'm very happy that slowly but

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Speaker 4: surely we're having a bunch of younger Black people and

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Speaker 4: older Black people being able to be like, I'm figuring

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Speaker 4: stuff out. I'm figuring stuff out for me because some

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Speaker 4: of the old rules they ain't there no more. Now

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Speaker 4: think about this, think about this. It went. It took

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Speaker 4: maybe ten years. Skinny jeans were gay, then they were

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Speaker 4: the stand and now they're out. But now if someone's

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Speaker 4: wearing skin and jeans, I know that they're straight.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're not playing with this.

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Speaker 4: If I see you on skin and jeans, now I'll

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Speaker 4: go oh oh.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to have you want to do the

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Speaker 3: acting straight? Anyway, y'all, thanks for listening to Patreon.

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Speaker 1: We'll have Jay on soon so that you can hear

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Speaker 1: all about his husband fight and I want to see

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Speaker 1: his acting straight skit.

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Speaker 4: Ooh yes, yeah, b it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Control.

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm working on it because I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: have to, you know, use my mouth for multiple people

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Speaker 5: saying so, so, how many do you think you could

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Speaker 5: do in a week? What how many people in a week?

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Speaker 5: Or how many times can I stuck.

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Speaker 2: Dick in a week?

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Speaker 3: Because if you meet them, then you take them to

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Speaker 3: the sex club.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so guys, luckily Weazy got to do her scrolling

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Speaker 5: prior to this, but you can for this.

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Speaker 2: What I'm not gonna lie. So you would not have

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Speaker 2: jumped on field. I would not have jumped on field

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Speaker 2: at all, so no, this is Patreon.

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Speaker 3: I'm on there.

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Speaker 5: You are on there, I mean you you can't you know,

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Speaker 5: hold on.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to run into people in there, you said,

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Speaker 1: I mean okay, so yeah, don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, No, why you said it on the other app.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the other app, but you said it on

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Speaker 2: the what No?

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Speaker 5: Okay, anyways, y'all, I'm on this app now because weasy

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Speaker 5: got on the app to have another semi fourth some

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Speaker 5: because it wasn't like a real forsome it was.

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Speaker 2: It was given semi.

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Speaker 3: If it was real or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, one was crying, the other one has just been, which.

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Speaker 5: Is crazy because I have not came across your couple.

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Speaker 5: So I wonder if because we have each other's number,

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Speaker 5: What do you mean? I haven't seen anyone I know

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Speaker 5: on there either, but I know people on the app.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know he and him be swiping.

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Speaker 3: He'd be like, damn, we adn't run out of bitches here.

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Speaker 2: You haven't came across my page. No, and i've seen

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Speaker 2: the years either.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know they've they'd be I'm blocking, not compatible,

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Speaker 5: maybe cop blocking.

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Speaker 2: So basically, y'all, I got on an app, and.

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Speaker 5: I have been in this place where I'm like questioning

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Speaker 5: a lot, like my sexuality, what I want, what I

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Speaker 5: don't want, what I think I want, what I might want,

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Speaker 5: trying to learn from my previous relationship, like how to

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Speaker 5: go about communicating it, and in a.

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Speaker 2: Very like greedy way. I know, I just want a

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Speaker 2: lot of people like I realized that.

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Speaker 5: So and after the Internet tore me a new asshole

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Speaker 5: because I clearly only want to have sex with women

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Speaker 5: and want to be in a relationship with men, I

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Speaker 5: decided I kind of wanted to try a couple. After

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Speaker 5: you found such a good looking couple on the DApp,

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Speaker 5: I can't believe it. Me neither, So bitch, I found

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Speaker 5: a good looking couple and I almost didn't even think

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Speaker 5: they were real.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, well let me try this out.

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Speaker 5: So I matched with the guy first, and it was

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Speaker 5: very clear that they were looking for a girlfriend, like

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Speaker 5: they don't play separate, which is what I was.

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Speaker 2: Finding a lot of friends, not a third no, So

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Speaker 2: a lot of.

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Speaker 5: The a lot of the couples that I was finding

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Speaker 5: were open to playing together or separate, or only one

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Speaker 5: of them were attractive.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how good looking people getting with ugly people,

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Speaker 5: but it's the new waves. Like a lot of these

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Speaker 5: couples was fifty fifty. I know one looked good, the

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Speaker 5: other was not.

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Speaker 2: It you know it's crazy too.

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Speaker 1: I feel like when we were growing up, we always

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Speaker 1: see a good looking woman with a just okay looking

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Speaker 1: man because of money.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was seeing some of the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, there's this other guy and I'll show

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Speaker 5: you the nigga's been looking good.

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Speaker 2: This nigga look good and his bitch.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I ain't playing well with a ten

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Speaker 5: foot pole nigga ugly.

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Speaker 2: I was not interested. Not ugly. Bitch is a big word.

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Speaker 5: Bitch, Why you ain't got no luck?

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Speaker 3: A bitch is just okay?

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Speaker 2: No bitch ugly ugly?

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Speaker 5: And I was like, like, awesome, if I got to

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Speaker 5: fuck her to fuck you, I don't even want to

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Speaker 5: fuck you for real, for real, let.

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Speaker 2: Me show you how ugly. And he's okay, but she bruh,

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Speaker 2: she is sturdeous.

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Speaker 4: What BRO told you?

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Speaker 3: She's ugly?

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Speaker 2: Bro, I'm okay, I know this is Bro. I know

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna confront with you, all right, now, bruh, this

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Speaker 2: is jarring.

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Speaker 3: How ugly she is and how fun he is.

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Speaker 5: He he Dominican, he older, he he I looking, he

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Speaker 5: got a little garter, so he's he's in the play party.

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Speaker 2: Let me describe what she looks like.

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Speaker 5: Bro, you gotta watch the video to see where easy saying,

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Speaker 5: it's given the Natalie mention, it's given the Andrew Schultz

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Speaker 5: knows times to what the no, I did.

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Speaker 3: Not feel bad.

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Speaker 2: No, by the way, let me describe me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's a Dominican black dude, says six five, and

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Speaker 1: he's very fit.

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Speaker 2: Has partnered with my soulmate. She is a funny.

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Speaker 4: Looking white woman.

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Speaker 2: I'd go Eastern Europe. Europe those features, yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: to have. I don't even suck.

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Speaker 5: So anyways, so outside of outside of that couple, which

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Speaker 5: they played separately, thank god, so I was in he

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Speaker 5: bitch he lived in Astorias, So I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this this could be cool. I end up meeting matching

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Speaker 5: the other couple next and bitch I was thrown off him.

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Speaker 5: And so it's a black guy and an Asian girl.

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Speaker 5: So you just called a segment from our bonus content

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Speaker 5: over on Patreon. We have so much more, bonus content,

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Speaker 5: BTS live episodes, hundreds of hours.

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