1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted a safe space where you can 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: just exist, where for a moment in time, you can 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: be you, with all the intricacies and parts of you 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: that people don't always understand. Welcome to end the deep 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: stories that shape us. I'm your host, Zach Stafford, and 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: each episode we create a space to be you, all 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: of you and all your messy and complicated glory. Every 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: story shares what it means to be a black and 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Latin X man living with different hardships, whether it's a 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: struggle of identity, discrimination or health, and how they've managed 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: to push forward despite the circumstance. We hope to get closer, 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: even if just a little, to a road of healing 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: and understanding. Hi, everyone, welcome back. Today's episode is all 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: about the community I think most of us have, and 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: that's the chosen family. Sometimes life throws us in directions 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: that we don't foresee, and in some cases it leaves 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: us in situation sans where we don't have our family unit, 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: either because circumstance has forced us to keep our distance 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: or they've chosen not to stay. But somewhere along the way, 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: we start to create our own chosen tribe, handpicked and 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: selected through shared experiences. It's those friends that come up 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: in the unexpected times, that first day of college, that 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: stressful day at work, or even a fun night out 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: that are so special and crucial in the shaping of 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: who we are. Like some of us, our guest Anthony Delgado, 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: has a loving family, but along his own journey to 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: self love and redemption, he had to rely on an 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: unlikely chosen family, one that helped him get through some 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: tough times riddled with homelessness and addiction. Anthony was born 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: in Worcester, Massachusetts, and remembers the good old days, the 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: ones where people helped each other take care of each other. 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: This original community is the one that shaped his formidable years, 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: the one where he learned discipline, before joining the military 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: and before things took a drastic term. As a kid, 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I grew up with a single power. It twelve of 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: us in our family. I just appreciated my brothers and 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: sisters and the people in my neighborhood. It was a 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: very back in those days. The neighborhood was a neighborhood. 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: If you get out of line, you're next to a 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: neighborhood kind of patter your but that's what I try 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: that today, you're going to jail. Everybody took care of 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: each other back then. I'm six and five, so coming 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: up as a kid, friendships meant something. It was loyalty. 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: The neighbors took care of each other. You have your 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: ballock parties and everybody brings a dish and you know, 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I kind of straight a lot 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I really didn't have the 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: discipline that I should have had. My mom was the best, 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: ever man. She did everything she could have raised us 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the best she could. And I think about that today, 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: man coming up, how many times that must have broke 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: her heart, you know, but she still loved us. She 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: still loved me and she did great bringing us up. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: When I was in trouble, I should tell you now 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay, you know, And it's just like 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: she made you feel go. She disciplined that. How do 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: you know? But she's not let you know that you 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: did okay. The best thing she did for me is 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: when she signed for me to go into the Marine Corps. 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to go, but that was some 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: tough love. I mean, she had to let me go. 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: And when I got in there when they started yelling 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: at me, I wanted to cry and go home and 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: see my mama. They start yelling, get on them yellow footsteps, 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: and you knew you had just stepped into a pile 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: of you know what and it's about to come down 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: on you. I was stationed and never went overseas. I 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: was at Kemple, joined with my brother Stevie. Was the 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Marine Corps boxing chip for two or three years. But 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: my problem started when I got out of the Marine, 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: and uh, I got involved in organized crime. I worked 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: for a friend of mine I can't say his name, 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and I continue to do foolish things. I got messed 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: up with the wrong people and I was collecting money 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: for a living here and there. I traveled and I 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: did a little bit of work for some people, and 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: I caught in Michigan and I I had to go 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: away for five years. Yeah. I went to the Federal 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: penitentiary for five years for collection and credit stor the means. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: And that's just what happened. I'm not trying to glorify that. 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: But when I came home after doing the five years, 82 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: a friend of mine told me to smoke a cigarette, 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: and the cigarette, which I didn't know it was weed, 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: which I never smoked, was laced with crack cocaine, and 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: that one hit sent me on a twelve year addiction. Run. 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I had to get away. Um, I had some situations 87 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: up there that I had to get away from. So 88 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I came to Georgia and I was living with my 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: cousin and uh, we were getting high and somebody took 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: one of my pebbles, my crack rock, and I thought 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: he did it, so I slapped him and I pushed 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: him down the stairs. He put me out and it 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: took me. It's called Doraville train station here directly across 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: the street from my office. And how ironic this is 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: is that's where my location I'm at right now. So 96 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: God brought it full circle. So when I got downtown, 97 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: I took the train downtown Atlanta. I was homeless. I 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: had nowhere to go. Being homeless in the South wasn't 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: what Anthony pictured for his life at all. But even 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: in that moment, what some would consider to be the 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: most desolate or lonely of times, he was able to 102 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: find a semblance of a community that helped him through 103 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: these rough days. There were two people I slept next to, 104 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I slept on one bench and Ralph and Floyd stepped 105 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: to the right of me on benches. Right now today, 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Ralph and Floyd is still sleeping under the eighty five 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: street bridge on Ella Street, still there, and I've offered 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: to take them and bring them off from a place 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: to stay, but they choose to be there. They choose 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to be there. Ralph is a witness for God right now. 111 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: And he told me straight up, he said, no anything, 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to go in the way. He said, 113 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing God's work. God makes sure I'm fit and 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: he's keeping me healthy. He says, I lost all my teeth, 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I see that. But the sense 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: of humor that he has in his state of mind 117 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and situation that he's in, to him, that's where he's 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing God's work, reaching the people, witnessing 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: the people down there, putting some hope into their lives. 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: To me, it's upside down. To him, he's fine, And uh, 121 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I got really close with them and embraced my heart 122 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: that they're still there. But I got really close to 123 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people down there. When you were living 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: in all this, where did you think you fit in 125 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: those boxes? Did you want to be there or did 126 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you want to get out? And what about your addiction? 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: Were you deeper even aware that you had an addiction 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: at the time. First of all, I didn't ask for 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: this addiction happened. I wasn't looking for this to happen. 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was just going to take a puffle 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: for a cigarette or a joint and it was going 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: to be over with. I was trapped. I basically I 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: got baited into this and I was bitter for a 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: long time. My man, how could you tell somebody to 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: try something that you know it's going to get them 136 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: addicted and think it's a joke. Everybody's not your friend, 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't care, family, who they Everybody doesn't have your 138 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: best interests at heart. So you need to be aware 139 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: of what you're doing when you're out there. You need 140 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: to be aware with you're drinking, with, you're smoking whatever. 141 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Don't accept none of them, nobody. That's my theory on 142 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: this whole thing. You just can't do it. At this point, 143 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Anthony has been homeless for a while and one day 144 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: something mystical happens inside of a Greyhound station, of all places, 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: he recalls, trying to stay warm inside the bus building, 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, a man and woman appear, 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: who he believes were angels. These angels instruct Anthony to 148 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: head to the local via hospital. He's not doing well 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: on this particular night. He's feeling tightness in his chest. 150 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: He's scared to go to the hospital, but he finally 151 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: caves and follows his angel's advice. But as he follows 152 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: him out of the door, the police and other bystanders 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: laugh at him. There's no couple anywhere in sight. He's 154 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: finally told to purchase a bus ticket or leave, so 155 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: he begins to panhandle. Later again, another man agrees to 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: buy him a train ticket so he can get to 157 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: the hospital, but as he turns to thank the man, 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: something unexplainable happens. So I step on the train. I 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: turned around and then I want to say thank you, 160 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: and he's gone. There's no way in the world as 161 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: a man could have got up the top of the escalator. 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: If anybody's been in Atlanta, they know at five points 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: you gotta walk over there first about it. He was going. 164 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I did what he told me. I got to the hospital. 165 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: They would rush me to row me totally close off. 166 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I v me. I stayed there for five days. So 167 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: the fifth day the nurse came up to me, or 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: the fourth day the nurse comes up. She said, Mr Dogado, 169 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: She says, how would you like to go into a 170 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: rehab program? I says, for what I said, I wasn't 171 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: feeling good, that's all. I don't need no rehab program. 172 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: She said. That's the first step of denial. You're in denial, 173 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: she says. But if you don't go into the program, 174 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be back on the streets tomorrow. So two 175 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: things are gonna happen in good bed or the streets. 176 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: And uh. I opted to go into the program, and 177 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: it was the best thing I did. You had to 178 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: go to church, you had to get a job, you 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: had a program. And I was still pretty much addicted. 180 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: I guess I still had the cravings. Started going to 181 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: church and they're talking about baptizing me. And I said, 182 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: hold it, I said, I'm from north I'm baptized already. 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: Pastor looked at me, he said, as well, Brother Anthony, 184 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I don't forget it. He 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: said that don't come. You got sprinkled. You gotta go 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: down in the water. I told him, hold on a minute, passed, 187 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm down south with all you Holy rollers. Are always 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: talking about baptism and going in water. That's all I've 189 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: been here. He says. No, he says, if you do 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: what I asked you to do, and you as an adult, 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: except Christ as your savior, he said, you will see 192 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: a difference in your life. And I got baptized in 193 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Jesus name. I came out of that water. Yeah, I 194 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: came out of that water, and it was like something 195 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: come over me. The community that Anthony created while a 196 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: house meant a lot to him, even if the circumstances 197 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: were unfortunate. At first, giving back to this chosen family 198 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: of sorts wasn't in the cards. But little did he 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: know that, through a few interactions with the local restaurant 200 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and church members, he drastically changed the course of his 201 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: life for himself and others, ultimately finding what he calls 202 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: his purpose in life. So one day we leave church 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: and well, never bread, and they're throwing away bags of 204 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: bread in the pastor, says Anthony. Brother Anthony asked him, 205 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: I said, past I ain't begging for no bread. I 206 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: am asking for no breath. He looked at me, your, 207 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: brother Anthony, we could take it back to the church 208 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: give it to the members. I said, you had, there's 209 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of pastry, and gave it to me. But 210 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: the manager says, you have your Bible one see. I said, 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. He says the 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: nonprofit status. Well, we can get it right off. He said, 213 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: you should get one. I said, for what? I just 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: want your bread today. Two weeks later, we're back there 215 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: again and I asked him again. He says, okay, he said, 216 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: did you apply. I says no, but I promise you 217 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: I will. So he gave me the bread. After we 218 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: passed it out, we're getting ready and throwing some away. 219 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: What are the mothers of the church? Comes up? Ye, 220 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: brother Anthony, She said, don't you throw that bread out? Again? 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: I said, what do you want me to do it? 222 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: She said, I want you to take it downtown. For what? 223 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: She should take it to the park where you used 224 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: to sleep. And again I said, I don't want to 225 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: relive that. I'm not doing it. And she said, brother Anthony, 226 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: what was the sermon about today? I said, Mother was 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: about obedience. She says, okay, So what are you gonna do? 228 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna be obedient to what I'm asking you. She 229 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: had me, She knew she had me. I said, okay, Mother. 230 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: So I go downtown and I see Ralph, I see Florid, 231 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I see I see all these people down there, and 232 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm passing on cakes and pies and just hanging out. 233 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: And I stopped crying, and I say, thank you, Father, God. 234 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: I found my purpose in life. And then from after that, 235 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: God just started working and passed. He told me, said 236 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: to your obedience and everything we've asked you to do. 237 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: He said, look what God's doing for you. I said yeah. 238 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: He said, he gave you the gift of help. I said, well, 239 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: tell him to take it back. I don't want it, 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: he says. He God don't take back when he gives you. 241 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: He says, So you stuck with it, he said, I 242 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: told him, tell him to take it back. I don't 243 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: want to do this, though, But you're stuck. I mean, 244 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: you're stuck with it, but you're very passionate about it. 245 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm stuck. Bro. He got you, and you seem to 246 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: like to have a lot of joy doing it. Was 247 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: it always as joyful for you? Or was it a 248 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: ride to get there to where you're excited to do 249 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: the word. It was a long ride. I had a van. 250 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I had a start with a pair of pliers. I 251 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,239 Speaker 1: started in my garage with two refrigerators in my apartment complex, 252 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: and they said, Mr Delgado, she said, you're gonna have 253 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: to get a license. I said why. She says, because 254 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: you're running a business. I said, not really, I'm just 255 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: giving away food to the neighbors. She says, well, management 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: thinks it's a business, so they're not going to give 257 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: you a license. I said, oh, yes, they will. So 258 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I went to city Hall to the next day and 259 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: I applied and the lady at the front desk says, 260 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: hold on, Mr Doug God, I'll be right back. They 261 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: gave me a business license, the first time ever in 262 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: an apartment complex, right here and done within George, and 263 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: I knew God was working that. And then when we 264 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: went from the apartment complex to a small building and 265 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I started feeling really really good about it. I really did, 266 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: and I said, this can't be bad. But how am 267 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: I going to fund it? I still hadn't got my 268 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: five O one seat. And I made a man named 269 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: John Eaton, and I called him. I went to go 270 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: see him he said it's going to cost about fifteen 271 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So when I come into us house, his 272 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: wife is coming down the stairs and I hear her say, John, 273 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: is that your client? He said yes. She says, you 274 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: need to help that man. She said, I felt annointing 275 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: on him as soon as he came in the house. 276 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: It's just what she said. He cut the price in 277 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: half for me, and he's been with me ever since. 278 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: He's been watching over my program. And yeah, it just 279 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: grew and grew. Now I have eight full time employees. 280 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Tell me more about the people you serve. 281 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: You've told me a lot about how you got here, 282 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: who supported you, But who are the everyday people you 283 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: were with every day dealing with addiction, homelessness, all these 284 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: other things. Well, because we can't really go downtown to 285 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: feed the homeless no more, because they're gonna give you 286 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: a ticket for a ticket for feeding people, so we shifted. 287 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: We basically feed families in which is a major demand 288 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: right now. I mean these are working people, single parents, 289 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: like three or four kids. But they got the rent, 290 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: they got the utilities, they got car payments, and you 291 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: get a weekly paycheck. And if it's like bucks, you 292 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: don't have a lot left over when it comes at 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: the end of the month. So we're basically focusing on 294 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: families and it's been very successful. Every Friday we go 295 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: to an apartment complex and we picked one city a 296 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: month and we work with all the police departments with 297 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: the city that we're in. Those departments will send offices 298 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to come out and they help us distribute the food 299 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: to families. And it's a good thing because the relationship 300 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: between the community and the police needs a bond and 301 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: if they get to talk to the offices that are there, 302 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: they get to see, hey, it's not as bad as 303 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: you think talking to these guys, you know, so it 304 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: kind of works out with them also. And uh, I 305 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: do hurricane relief also, I've been to New Orleans, I've 306 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: been to Florida. My box truckles whoever would need it. 307 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: Your story is so much about addiction, this kind of force, 308 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: addiction that led you on this path. What are the 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: stories of other folks you're you're working with? Is addiction 310 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: the common line through a lot of them? Or what 311 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: are what are the barriers are facing? No, contrary to that, 312 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: not at all. It's employment. It's money. Most of the 313 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: people we deal with are not addictive. There's having a 314 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,239 Speaker 1: hard time right now. Most of them all single parents, 315 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: but multiple kids. And that's the sad thing about it. 316 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: When you've got a year old with four kids, little babies. 317 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Most of the families don't step up to help. It's 318 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: very hotbreaking when you see that. You go to these 319 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: homes and you see the cabinets are empty. But oh, 320 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I got a boyfriend. He loves me, but he ain't 321 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: bringing food in the house. How does he love you? 322 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: That's not love. I mean, you can't rely on him 323 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: to support your family. You've got to get step up, 324 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: do something, trying to find something. Listen, if you want 325 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: a job, I can tell you right across the street 326 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: right now, I tell them, and you can have a 327 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: job tomorrow morning. It's called working day. You get paid 328 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: at the every day, but it's a job and if 329 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: you go every day, that's a hours that day. But 330 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: they won't do it. They won't do it. But do 331 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you think it's some of it? It's in my experience 332 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: with working with different folks in crisis. Sometimes they don't 333 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: know that they're worth fighting for, they're worth fighting to 334 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: invest in themselves. Do you see that? A similar learn 335 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: with these people I do because they have no self confidence. 336 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: They don't even know how to love themselves. So I 337 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: spend time with them, and I talked to and said, 338 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: you know what, you love yourself before you love anybody else. 339 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: Love yourself first. Then you'll be able to really love somebody. 340 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Your self confidence. I can't do this. I can't. Yeah, 341 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: you can't. We are a G e d Training center free, 342 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: come get your G E D s. Whatever you come 343 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: out will help you. I know all these folks that 344 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: do not have the G wouldn't even come to They 345 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: come one time, two times and never come back. It's 346 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: like it's a challenge for them to do better for themselves. 347 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: And like I said, the self confidence you need, I 348 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't have it, but I learned how to get it. 349 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I learned patients. I learned how to show love because 350 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: I love myself. I didn't love myself at all. Now 351 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: I learn how to be humble and learn how to say, hey, 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: let me help you, what do you need? Yeah? And 353 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: I feel like these people do you have reasons or 354 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: why they think they're not lovable? You know? I know 355 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: with homelessness, there's a high rates of HIV positivity. So 356 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: when people are positive time, they feel like they're not 357 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: deserving of love, or that they're they don't have a job, 358 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: they don't deserve love. How do you get them to 359 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: overcome things like that? And do you see like health 360 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: as a big barrier for these people too? Yeah, that 361 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: is a big thing too. They're not on any type 362 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: of insurance or anything. They don't qualify for some stuff. 363 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean some of them do, but they don't apply. 364 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: And you try to get them to apply to Yeah, 365 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: I'll come back and do it. Come on, We'll get 366 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: you on the computer, sit down with you can help you. 367 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: You can lead them to the water, you know what 368 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: they say, but they can't make them drink it. And 369 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the only organization out here doing what I'm 370 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: doing as far as trying to get these people educated. 371 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: We have financial planning to help people, teach them how 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: to budget your money, how to buy a house, and 373 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: how to do these different things. So you just don't 374 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: give up. You keep trying and if you say one 375 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: or two, it did something because it was one or two, 376 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: hopefully they'll pass it along what they learned and ship 377 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: acknowledge that they got from from coming around here, coming 378 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: to these different classes and stuff. But I don't give up. 379 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: I come in here in the morning for five o'clock. 380 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: I prayed my building and I asked God every day, 381 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: God just put me in front of somebody that I 382 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: could plan a seed in that, another sink in water, 383 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and let you give the increase to throughout the day. 384 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: Some people say that's easy to say, Yeah, it's easy 385 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: to do too. Believe in yourself and then somebody will 386 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: believe in you, even through humble and somewhat reserved beginnings. 387 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I currently and I was founded and has kept their 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: doors open during difficult pandemic times. Today, the center serves 389 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: the community through its food bank and has even added 390 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: other services including job placements, mentorships, and a GD center, 391 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: among other programs. For Anthony, the success of the nonprofit 392 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: is centered within its core message truly putting in the 393 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: work for the people within his community. They can't just 394 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: be me. Collaboration through mo non profits should be the 395 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: main thing that we should be looking at, all of 396 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: us working together, but it doesn't happen. Some of these 397 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: organizations are all about their organization only. Funding is not 398 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: as free or open as everybody thinks it is. You're competing. 399 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: You're competing with organizations that probably not even doing the 400 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: work that you're doing, but because they know somebody, they're 401 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: getting the money. And that's the bad thing about it. 402 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: So I'm one person, one organization with some fantastic employees. 403 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: We do what we can, but we need more people 404 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: to step up. More organizations say hey, step out and 405 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: do a little bit more than what they're doing. Some 406 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: of them are doing a fantastic job. Don't get me why. 407 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: I mean, there's some good, good organizations out here. But 408 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: when you're when you're working alone and you try to 409 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: collaborate with somebody else, and it's a fight just to 410 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: get them to get together with you. All nonprofits need volunteers, 411 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: All nonprofits need money. Give him a couple of hours 412 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: a month, you know, or something you know, just you 413 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: don't even have to go to nonprofit to be nice 414 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: to somebody. Before I got this problem, I just smile 415 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: at somebody, buy somebody a cup of coffee. I did 416 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: that at Stockbucks. Most people should just look outside their 417 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: circle and say who can I help today? What organization 418 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: can I go volunteer with? Bring some clothes, buy some 419 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: kings to some food, bring it to one of the shelters. 420 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of ways that people can get involved 421 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: with the community and specifically with Eye Care Atlanta. How 422 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: can people support you and this really important work that 423 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: you're doing every day. Well we we we Like I said, 424 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: we're basically a food based program, but we venture out 425 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: and everything. So my main prober thing right now was 426 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: funding to be straight up, which it's funding because we 427 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: have so much food here. We don't turn anybody, but 428 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: you don't have to be a needy person that prus 429 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: they like your cabinets are empty to get food from us. 430 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Anybody could come. He was in Atlanta. You wanted to 431 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: come bind do some groceries and you want to go 432 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: give it to somebody. We had give it to you 433 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: because we encourage people to come pick something up and 434 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: bless somebody with it. But for me, my my main 435 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: kid thing is is funding here. We lost some funders 436 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: because they funded us for over three years. And if 437 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: you're in, if you're out there in our profit arena, 438 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Some some funders give 439 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: you one to three years, four years. We lost three 440 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: of them this year alone, and the pandemic hasn't helped 441 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: none of us in the arena. That's a lot. Funding 442 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: has dropped off a lot, and that's that's what we need. 443 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: But we all well take can which we take, clothes, 444 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: we take, toilet trees, and whatever they want to do 445 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: and turn not in the wing m For some of us, 446 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: finding that balance of loving ourselves and others is a 447 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: lifelong search. Anthony certainly went through the ups and downs 448 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: that come with addiction, but even then he was able 449 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: to find his tribe, the people he could lean on 450 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: and learn to love despite being unhoused. And it was 451 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: this journey that led him to self love and allows 452 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: him to double down on this love towards others by 453 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: giving back every single day. If you're interested in finding 454 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: out more about Anthony's nonprofit, head over to I Care 455 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta dot org to find out how you can help. 456 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: This has been in the deep stories that shape us. 457 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Find this episode in others on the I Heart Radio app, 458 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Don't forget 459 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: to share, rate and review if you enjoyed this conversation. 460 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: The show is produced by Ivan Chien and mastered by 461 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: James Foster. Our show researcher is John and Raggio and 462 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: our writer is Yvette Lopez. A special shout out to 463 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: our guest Anthony Delgado. I'm your host, Zach Stafford M