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Speaker 2: God. I sound like Buzz Williamson, don't I? Oh, man,

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Speaker 2: I get that mid season coaching horse thing going. Ah

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Speaker 2: oh brutal, brutal, not sick, a little tired, but not

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Speaker 2: like crazy. But the uh, the what do people call it?

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Speaker 2: The instrument the instrument pause is a little affected by

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Speaker 2: the day. I hope you're having a spectacular day. You're

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Speaker 2: ready for a good weekend, cause it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: good weekend, right, gonna be a really good weekkend. No,

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Speaker 2: you just have in your mind and you, guys, Southern California,

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Speaker 2: what do you got working on there? Guys? You got

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Speaker 2: eighty degrees again today? Is that what you're doing? You guys?

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Speaker 2: Putting on just Sam, make sure you put on sunscreen

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Speaker 2: when you go outside. This weekend, Jason, I know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna go on a hike with your smoking hot girlfriend

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Speaker 2: takes you. She takes you to hikes all over southern California.

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Speaker 2: You guys need sunscreen this weekend, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, I've got a lot of thoughts on sunscreen, but

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Speaker 4: I don't want to bore the whisteners. But seventy nine

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Speaker 4: degrees this weekend? I think seventy six seventy seven?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, forecast nice?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what the forecast is here

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay, Wisconsin? Sure, Tomorrow the high will be

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Speaker 2: seven degrees, the low will be six minus six Sunday. No, Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: seven minus six is the low, and then eleven on

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Speaker 2: Sunday minus four is the low.

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Speaker 2: So in case you want to know what that feels like,

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Speaker 2: just imagine your face in a freezer where there actually

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Speaker 2: wind is blowing even colder air into your face. It's

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Speaker 2: why does the wind hate my face? That's really what

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Speaker 2: it kind of comes down to, why does the wind

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Speaker 2: hate my face? So right now it's twenty five feels

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Speaker 2: like ten. That means when it's negative six degrees tonight,

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Speaker 2: it'll feel like negative thirty. So we got the win

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Speaker 2: last night, but you guys get the wind on the

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Speaker 2: weekend in terms of the wedding. You know again, when

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Speaker 2: I got the head coaching job year and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: This is a true story, Jason. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I've ever shared this with you. I actually I landed

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee at like twelve thirty at night because I

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I just fly to Milwaukee. Flew

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Speaker 2: Phoenix from south from from Burbank to Phoenix, Phoenix to Milwaukee,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'll just drive up there. It's what

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Speaker 2: an hour and a half. You know, it was hard,

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Speaker 2: So I went long in my opening press conference because

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Speaker 2: I was I like had laid out in my mind.

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Speaker 2: I kept giving my opening press conference kind of monologue

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Speaker 2: and trying to time it out while I was driving. Right.

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Speaker 2: It's a I don't know if you've ever used this

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Speaker 2: as a broadcasting trick, but you can. Actually I did

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Speaker 2: it when I was doing the Final Four and I

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Speaker 2: had a minute on the court before Yukon beat Kentucky

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Speaker 2: to win They're to win a national championship. Was you know,

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Speaker 2: you just look at the clock and you give your

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Speaker 2: a little spiel and you time it out to a minute. Right. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: I've done in my mind press conferences. I've actually out

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Speaker 2: loud in a mirror worked on press conferences. But I again,

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Speaker 2: haven't done the press conference after being supremely frustrated or

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Speaker 2: even ticked off. Right. But I've had bad moments at

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Speaker 2: those press conferences because you just you know what went wrong,

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Speaker 2: and you have to take a deep breath, take full

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Speaker 2: ownership of it, of it, and find a way to

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Speaker 2: be the stern, discipline oriented but relatable human being that

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Speaker 2: doesn't browbeat everybody. And some of it is different college

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Speaker 2: to pro. Now, I also think some of it is

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Speaker 2: own personal experience in a second. First, Todd Bowles is

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Speaker 2: full disclosure Dan Byer. Obviously, the game was on later

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Speaker 2: Our game was early, was like a six thirty start,

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Speaker 2: back and rewatched the football game. But I didn't check

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Speaker 2: don't know if your parents or anybody close to you.

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Speaker 2: My dad used to do this all the time on weekend.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me the scores. I'm taping the game. So

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Speaker 2: I didn't have to be that guy because I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe the Falcons won the football game. Many

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Speaker 2: how many pounds did they have?

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Speaker 3: Well, they had tons, yes, seventeen Jason. Was that seen

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Speaker 2: So Todd Bowles and again this was on a different level,

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Speaker 2: same level, there's some similarities me. Again, he's coaching grown men,

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Speaker 2: he's coaching in the NFL. He's coached as a defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator in the Super Bowl with the Arizona Cardinals. Right,

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Speaker 2: this was how he addressed his UH comments in the postgame.

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Speaker 6: It's inexcusable. You don't make excuses we you got enough,

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Speaker 6: you got care enough, where got something to you? It's

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Speaker 6: more than a job good? How well do you know

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Speaker 6: your job? How well can you do your job? You

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Speaker 6: can't sugar coat it was incusable and it's for that's

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's awesome. Now. The thing that helps

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Speaker 2: him is one he has this super kind of easy

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Speaker 2: going way of saying dropping the F word in there

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Speaker 2: it just it just adds to it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I have an assistant, Carrie Rupp, who's been a head coach,

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Speaker 2: and he has the same thing, the amazing use of

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Speaker 2: nearly as offensive. Now you may heart all those beeps

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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my gosh, he's but it was

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Speaker 2: really kind of a matter of fact. You're basically saying, like,

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Speaker 2: have to have pride in it, and you have to

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Speaker 2: actually give a damn about it. You have to have

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Speaker 2: you have to care. You're give a give a rip.

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Speaker 2: Although nobody says rip has to be at a high level.

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Speaker 2: And if your give a rip is at a high level,

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Speaker 2: well then you pay attention more. And when you pay

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Speaker 2: attention more, the coaches help you and your prep for

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Speaker 2: every situation. You don't screw up the way the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: screwed up. But they did. And now that it's seven,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was out of line. And I

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Speaker 2: about the ease by which he's matter of fact of

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Speaker 2: the Hey, we say no excuses. There's no excuses. These

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Speaker 2: they need they need to own up to why they

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Speaker 2: screwed up and not do it again. Byer, do you

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Speaker 2: think it was over the top? Is is postgame presser?

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Speaker 7: No, that was a game that they absolutely should have won.

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Speaker 7: And O there were some things that didn't go their way.

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Speaker 7: There was a close call on Kyle Pitts, whether he

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Speaker 7: was in the end zone or not in the end

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Speaker 7: zone ruled the touchdown on the field call stood. There

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Speaker 7: was a fumble that they had inside the red zone

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Speaker 7: that about five Buccaneers had an opportunity to uh to

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Speaker 7: recover didn't happen. Baker Mayfield threw a bad interception and

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Speaker 7: I think even he would.

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Speaker 3: Admit, and they let the game. I mean they let

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Speaker 7: So in a span of less than a week, they

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Speaker 7: lost two home games to two inferior division opponents. So

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Speaker 7: I can get why Todd Bowles would be that mad.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, all of us have no faith in the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Yet the Panthers just beat the Rams, right, Panthers are

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Speaker 2: beating the Rams, the Packers, the Cowboys, They swept the

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Speaker 2: Falcons obviously in their division, and they have the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: twice in the last three weeks. They do have the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: albeit at home, which you know, that's a long long

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Speaker 2: one of his old clubs. And they have the Saints

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Speaker 2: on the road, which you feel like, even though the

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Speaker 2: are you ready for the Carolina Panthers to be in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs and have a home game as a division champion.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually feel like they've shown more than any team

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Speaker 7: in that division of at least stability. The kind of

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Speaker 7: are who they are. They have a running game. Maybe

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Speaker 7: it wasn't this potent as it was at one point

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Speaker 7: during the season, middle of the season where ric O'Dell

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Speaker 7: had back to back huge games. But to your point

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Speaker 7: of their resume and who they've beaten, seems like more

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Speaker 7: other frustrating thing for Tampa is everyone's finally healthy. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Bucky Irving missed a bunch of time. Mike Evans came

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Speaker 7: back last night at over one hundred yards, a couple

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Speaker 7: of big plays, and Jalen McMillan almost caught a touchdown,

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Speaker 7: so he was back in the fold. So now this

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Speaker 7: was supposed to be their stretch run. Everybody's back, let's

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Speaker 7: lose like that and you had nineteen penalties for one

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Speaker 7: Buccaneers still can top that.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't that factor into this, guys? Doesn't the you mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Panthers and Dave Canalis, right, I think it factors

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Speaker 4: into the You know, all the debate shows this morning

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Speaker 4: is Todd Bowles on the hot seat and he sounded

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Speaker 4: like a guy in that In that SoundBite, he sounds

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Speaker 4: like a guy who sees the rider on the wall.

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Speaker 4: He sounds like an old guy who has had his

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Speaker 4: career and doesn't care what happened deference to him. That's

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Speaker 4: the SoundBite of a coach like that who's defeated but

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Speaker 4: doesn't The Dave Canalis sing work into this that if

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Speaker 4: you're going to make a case against Todd Bowles being

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Speaker 4: the head coach moving forward, you have a former assistant

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Speaker 4: leading a division opponent to first place. You have a

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Speaker 4: former assistant and Liam Cohen leading the Jaguars to first place,

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Speaker 4: and then you have Todd Bowles regressing as a head

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't think Todd Bowles has regressed.

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Speaker 2: Me again, that maybe that's and obviously they've fallen apart here,

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Speaker 2: but they've also had had a bad bite of injuries, right,

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Speaker 2: They're just they've just had a bad, bad bite of injuries.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I can I can say to

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Speaker 2: support him. And let's also see how he finishes. Do

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Speaker 2: I think it plays part of it? Yeah, But he

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Speaker 2: was the handpicked air apparent to Bruce Arians and so

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like it was like, well, we have have

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Speaker 2: one of these three choices and they chose poorly. That

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Speaker 2: was always kind of the deal. And remember arians is

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Speaker 7: She then was harassed by More that day continuously, and

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Speaker 2: that's the diabolical We found a way to get ridish

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Speaker 2: run More and here's what happened. Sort of thing again,

433
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Speaker 2: still could be possible, but that's where so many people's

434
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Speaker 2: brain went. And this story does contradict that on some level.

435
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Speaker 2: It does contradict. They may have been alerted to it,

436
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Speaker 2: but they investigated it, and both people said that not happening.

437
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Speaker 2: Just people just think that's happening, but it ain't. And

438
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Speaker 2: you do come to a stalemate. And if no one

439
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Speaker 2: if there's no one else with firsthand information it the

440
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Speaker 2: he said and she said, are both the same, it

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Speaker 2: does the investigation does die. It really does.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the that's the point that And there were

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Speaker 7: different reports on when this happened. Some said in the summer,

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Speaker 7: some said in October. But ultimately, to your point, Doug,

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Speaker 7: if Sharon Moore wasn't cooperating and this then now alleged

446
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Speaker 7: victim wasn't cooperating at the time, that's kind of been

447
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Speaker 7: the There wasn't anything that they could go on or

448
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Speaker 7: had anything or had any evidence that there was a

449
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Speaker 7: relationship between the two. Yeah, What is also needs clarifying

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Speaker 7: is because and I've mentioned it in reports and you

451
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Speaker 7: may have talked about it earlier, but in the alleged

452
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Speaker 7: incident on Wednesday, More never threatened the woman, but he

453
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Speaker 7: did say my blood is on your hands, where he

454
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Speaker 7: did threaten to take his own life. So he did

455
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Speaker 7: threaten to take his own life, but he did not

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Speaker 7: threaten the woman, you know, with her life. If that's

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Speaker 7: any clarification.

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Speaker 2: I think all of those things again, and yeah, I

459
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Speaker 2: mean I don't need to preface this, but I will

460
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Speaker 2: just again so people understand. None of these things are okay, right, Stalking,

461
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Speaker 2: showing up, harassing, or any sorts of threats to yourself

462
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Speaker 2: or to others are okay. But if it is the

463
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Speaker 2: desperation of hey, I just lost my entire life after we,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, came to a conclusion we weren't going to

465
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Speaker 2: tell anybody, to say nothing to nobody about nothing, and

466
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you go and tell everybody

467
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Speaker 2: something and the whole world comes crashing down. You know.

468
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Speaker 2: I think it ends up being a misdemeanor and sort

469
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Speaker 2: of going away. What it does, though, is it just

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Speaker 2: cast a completely ugly light on ton More and makes it.

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Speaker 2: It shows you the desperation in what happened, what transpired

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Speaker 2: over those three days or ever how long those days were. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: I mean, like I do I think he's going to jail.

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Speaker 2: I don't, but I do think that this point, I mean,

475
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Speaker 2: there's been.

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Speaker 4: A way, Like I said, well, there's been a lot

477
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Speaker 4: to talk about his mental health and whether or not

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Speaker 4: he goes to jail or not, or how permissible that

479
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Speaker 4: will be a trial or if this goes a trial.

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Speaker 4: But I think that that's like the classic. That's the classic.

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Speaker 4: I guess legal they probably talked about this in law schools. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 4: it does he did he have mental issues and did

483
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Speaker 4: this this episode trigger those mental issues or as Doug

484
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Speaker 4: just said, he just received news that his life was

485
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Speaker 4: devastated and he had this episode. Is it a one

486
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Speaker 4: time deal? Was he fully aware of his actions? Or

487
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Speaker 4: does he have a mental health issue that could be

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Speaker 4: proven in court? And then you gotta obviously what up

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Speaker 4: on the guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, I'm with you Dan, I mean

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Speaker 2: with you Jason, Like, we don't know what's interesting about

492
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Speaker 2: the mental health issues? And yes, obviously lawyers do go

493
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Speaker 2: to that and feels like they go to it way

494
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Speaker 2: too easily. So right, What is interesting is if you've

495
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Speaker 2: ever been around somebody that has legitimate depression and mental

496
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Speaker 2: health issues, you actually get for me, are you get

497
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Speaker 2: offended at people who have mental breakdowns because their life

498
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Speaker 2: is spiraling because of their own deciding? These are two different things,

499
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Speaker 2: as we're both pointing out, and that's really hard. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to not feel like you're empathetic towards mental health

501
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Speaker 2: issues when you're saying that. But I think we all

502
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Speaker 2: know that there is a there is a distinct and

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Speaker 2: unique difference.

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Speaker 7: Also, just to add on separately, the Wall Street Journal

505
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Speaker 7: in their reporting said that there were two other women

506
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Speaker 7: who did tell university officials that Moore made unwanted advances

507
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Speaker 7: to them online. That's a report, but that was not

508
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Speaker 7: mentioned with the in the court case today. So when

509
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Speaker 7: we're talking about did the university know, I think those

510
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Speaker 7: allegations are now something that are going to be under

511
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Speaker 7: the microscope on did people bring this up to the

512
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Speaker 7: university and they didn't look or was it just part

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Speaker 7: of the investigation into that relationship or what.

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Speaker 3: But that was brought up by the Wall Street Journal.

515
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Speaker 2: Well, what did you know when did you know?

516
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Speaker 4: What?

517
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Speaker 2: Did you do about it? That's any of these investigations.

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Speaker 2: That's what it has to do with. By the way,

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Speaker 2: my boy Pat listening to the show. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Pat.

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Speaker 2: This is Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Tradio. Were talking

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Speaker 2: about IU Indies uniforms. He said, they look like tattoos,

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Speaker 2: like tattoos. I did it look like there was a

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Speaker 2: spark the check or flag, but it did look like

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Speaker 2: did somebody run them over? What is that tire marks

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Speaker 2: on them? That was weird.

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Speaker 2: get his take on last night's Bucks debuckle and Todd bowles,

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Speaker 2: pointing the figs, buck stops other places. But before we

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Speaker 2: get to all of that, I do think it's important

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Speaker 2: that Sam points out the Syhawk was one but won

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Speaker 2: by Iowa State last night.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was great game. Hawkeys had their chances. But

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Speaker 5: for the first time in history, Iowa State has now

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Speaker 5: won the men's game, the women's game, wrestling, and football

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Speaker 5: in the same year. They have women's wrestling, Iowa does,

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Speaker 5: Iowa State does not. Iowa Women's wrestling is very good, dominate,

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Speaker 5: but it's kind of a burgeoning sport right now.

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Speaker 2: It is a burgeoning sport anyway, So the didn't Iowa

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Speaker 2: State have like fifteen points at halftime?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 5: It was thirty three twenty five, I believe, and then

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Speaker 5: Iowa State just came out gangbusters at the game of

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Speaker 5: the second half. Then I responded, it was have you

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Speaker 5: eight fight? It was I was Iowa was an eleven

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Speaker 5: and a half point dog, and they battled and they

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Speaker 5: had it within with a one possession game with about

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Speaker 5: a minute ago or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It was close, thirty three twenty five at the half,

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Speaker 2: ends up being sixty six sixty two. Good ball game,

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Speaker 2: my boy, Miles Simon was on the call. Did it

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Speaker 2: sneak up on anybody else? Sneak up on anybody else?

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Speaker 2: The the the NBA Cup in Vegas, Like I saw

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Speaker 2: that pop up in my email. You know we get

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Speaker 2: emails as at broadcasts. Whatever, Hey, don't forget NBA Cup

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Speaker 2: in Vegas set dates. Here's the teams that's playing. Like,

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Speaker 2: I guess it's because I didn't realize it's December. I'm

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Speaker 2: so into you know, football, and of course my basketball

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Speaker 2: team did sneak up on you? Dan?

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Speaker 7: Well, the one thing that the NBA did this year

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Speaker 7: is they had quarterfinal games this week, so the rest

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Speaker 7: of the league kind of took off Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 7: So the Lakers had that game against the Spurs, which

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Speaker 7: was a Cup game, and you know, the Knicks played

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Speaker 7: earlier this week. So the NBA did try to kind

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Speaker 7: of highlight it this year by by doing that with

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Speaker 7: the schedule. But yeah, usually happens around this time at

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Speaker 7: heading to Vegas. But yeah, that's what's going to happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. People

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Speaker 2: are paying more attention to football as they should. Mark

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Speaker 2: Dominic pays a ton of attention to football. He's a

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Speaker 2: former general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's worked

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Speaker 2: at all levels of the National Football League, and he

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Speaker 2: joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. How the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: lose that game.

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Speaker 9: I I'm watching the game, and when you know, having

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Speaker 9: worked with Raheem Morris as our head coach in Tampa

587
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Speaker 9: Bay for a few years, when you know they were

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Speaker 9: down fourteen points, they scored the touchdown and made it

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Speaker 9: twenty to twenty eight, I'm like, don't you kick the

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Speaker 9: extra point? Like I don't believe the analytics is correct here,

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Speaker 9: and they miss it and I'm like, oh, here you go.

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Speaker 9: And then they score and you're like, go for two

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Speaker 9: and they don't get that there's no way. And then

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Speaker 9: some I mean, it's just that's such a miserable loss

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Speaker 9: at home when the division's right in front of you

596
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Speaker 9: for yours for the taking. I still think they'll win

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Speaker 9: the division, but just the way the ball bounces and

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Speaker 9: the way that played out is just it's hard to

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Speaker 9: have them. I mean, it's you wake up the next

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Speaker 9: morning sick to your stomach, or you wake up that's

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Speaker 9: the fastest flight you've ever had to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you a question that I think I think

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Speaker 2: Jason's too. It was it Jason or was it you

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Speaker 2: Dan discussed about fifteen minutes ago. Considering you have other

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Speaker 2: former assistants who are doing very, very well and the

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Speaker 2: Bucks are collapsing here down the stretch, how much does

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Speaker 2: do the other assistants that used to be in Tampa

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Speaker 2: doing well increase the pressure on Todd bulls Well?

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Speaker 9: I think because of Bullsby on the defensive side, obviously

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Speaker 9: those guys are on the offensive side with Canals and

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Speaker 9: Cohen that yeah, it's pressure. But again, you know, as

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Speaker 9: much as there was an opportunity last night for Tampa

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Speaker 9: to kind of make sure that they've won the South again,

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Speaker 9: their schedule still they played the Carolina Panthers twice, the

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Speaker 9: schedule still in front of them. I think, if you're

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Speaker 9: Jason Light, if I was Jason Light and I'm sitting

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Speaker 9: there today, I want to see the whole season playoff.

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Speaker 9: I'm in zero rush here. But I don't think Todd

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Speaker 9: Bowles is on a hot seat right now, not this year. Glaziers,

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Speaker 9: as much as there's been changed there, I don't see

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Speaker 9: them as a team that would want to change after

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Speaker 9: you know, being the only team that's won its division

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Speaker 9: the last what four or five years in a row.

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Speaker 9: No one's done that besides the Buccaneers in the South.

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Speaker 2: All right, so the last two weeks you joined us

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Speaker 2: and you said, hey, you know, Stot's been fine, good.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see him long term as the starter

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Speaker 2: there in Cleveland. Did last weekend change your mind? No?

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Speaker 9: Not really. I mean I think that they're just auditioning

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Speaker 9: and they'll be back at the podium this year, and

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Speaker 9: you know, with depending on which quarterbacks actually do who

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Speaker 9: decided to come out and be part of this draft

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Speaker 9: class will be a big part of what happens with

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Speaker 9: the Cleveland Browns. But I think that they are seeing

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Speaker 9: they've got two good two's potentially. I just don't feel

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Speaker 9: like they've got their number one. And again, I think

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Speaker 9: it's under duress too much. And that's all from you know,

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Speaker 9: processing quickly enough and right now. You know again, I

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Speaker 9: give him through the rest of the season at this

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Speaker 9: point instead of going back to just to make sure.

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Speaker 9: But I feel like I need to see three or

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Speaker 9: four more games. But I just don't know if the

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Speaker 9: processing is going to happen test enough for him.

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Speaker 2: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

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Speaker 2: voice of of Mark Dominic. I agree. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that the touchdown when she kind of layered a

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Speaker 2: little bit in the end zone, he actually had a

648
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Speaker 2: tight end wide open that he made the wrong read

649
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Speaker 2: and got a touchdown. Anyway, I haven't heard anybody point

650
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Speaker 2: it out watching the game, like this is the wrong guy.

651
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Speaker 2: Wrong guy? Okay, cam Ward watching him in the same game,

652
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Speaker 2: how much concern do you have for his future?

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Speaker 9: I do the you know, the he's not look. I

654
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Speaker 9: think he's respected in the locker room. I think he's

655
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Speaker 9: got the moxie, and I think he's got the intelligence.

656
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Speaker 9: I think that his release uh looks awful little bit

657
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Speaker 9: to me, even though it's something you really can't change

658
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Speaker 9: at this point, this late in their careers. We all

659
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 9: know what Tim Tebow and other guys that to carry

660
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 9: Collins hitch like. He just can't get rid of that stuff.

661
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Speaker 9: And part of that makes me concerned that, you know,

662
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Speaker 9: the accuracy and just being able to put the weight

663
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Speaker 9: on his shoulders. It's been disheartening because I really like

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Speaker 9: cam Ward the kid. But and I and and I

665
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Speaker 9: got you gotta be honest. I mean they're surrounding him

666
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Speaker 9: with a bunch of guys that probably are backups for

667
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Speaker 9: other teams in terms of skill set guys, and all

668
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Speaker 9: that combined makes for you know, a very disappointing campaign.

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Speaker 9: But I think if you're the Titans, uh, you cannot

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Speaker 9: rule out quarterback in the first round. I think is

671
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 9: the worst sit wish you have is you're you over.

672
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Speaker 9: You want to believe so badly that your pick is

673
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Speaker 9: going to make it that you're not willing to keep

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Speaker 9: your eyes open and say, hey, look at two quarterbacks

675
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Speaker 9: and one of them is a franchise guy. I don't

676
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 9: care teams trade two or three or four first rounders

677
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Speaker 9: to get a franchise guy. So if he takes two

678
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Speaker 9: franch our first round picks on quarterback to get the

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Speaker 9: right guy, do it. I think they've got to keep

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Speaker 9: their eyes open on both things.

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Speaker 2: Steut Gottliebshaw, you listen to Fox Sports Radio Bears Packers game,

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Speaker 2: You walked away with what impression after watching those two teams?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? You know, I still really believe in what the

684
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 9: Green Bay Packers can be and are I still feel

685
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Speaker 9: like the when you when a push comes to show

686
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 9: I feel like they've got more playmakers across the board,

687
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Speaker 9: and I trust Jordan Love to be able to push

688
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Speaker 9: the ball when it has to happen and think that

689
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Speaker 9: he can make a throw. And it gives me the

690
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Speaker 9: confidence to feel like this Packer team is the is

691
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Speaker 9: the better team. But the Bears, you know, I've always

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Speaker 9: said all seasons, I just feel like they're going to

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Speaker 9: not be in the postseason. I think Detroit's going to

694
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Speaker 9: catch them and move forward. And I think that's what's

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Speaker 9: going to unfold as we see the last month of

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Speaker 9: the season.

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Speaker 2: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Jalen Hurts,

698
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Speaker 2: are they using him incorrectly and throwing the ball too much?

699
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Speaker 2: Is this his ceiling? He is not running the football

700
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Speaker 2: as much or as well? What's your assessment of Jalen

701
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Speaker 2: Hurts and what suddenly has changed for the worst with

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Speaker 2: the Eagles.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's one thing is what you talked about,

704
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Speaker 9: and they did run sa kuon Barker. I talked about

705
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Speaker 9: how important was going to be to get Sa kuon

706
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Speaker 9: Barker ball. They ran the ball well, they could have

707
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Speaker 9: run it more, I think, and not put everything in

708
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Speaker 9: Jalen's hands, and I think that's what you've got to

709
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Speaker 9: continue to do. You don't take the ball out of

710
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Speaker 9: Jalen's hands and tell him you're not good enough anymore.

711
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 9: Maybe you convince him Doug that it's every week to

712
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Speaker 9: the super Bowl, and he plays to that kind of level.

713
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Speaker 9: But you know, I think the more important way to

714
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Speaker 9: talk to Jalen is we still believe in you. But

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Speaker 9: certainly as an offensive coordinator, we're going to hand the

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Speaker 9: ball off to Barkley. We're gonna do it twenty three times,

717
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Speaker 9: Orrel's gonna throw a bunch of screens and just really

718
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Speaker 9: build back the confidence because that was a nightmare game

719
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Speaker 9: for a young quarterback or for a quarterback in the league.

720
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Speaker 9: Yet I still think he can overcome it. Look, Jalen's

721
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Speaker 9: not the top ten type of quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 9: but he has been a top ten postseason type of

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Speaker 9: quarterback and I think he continues to do that. This

724
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Speaker 9: Eagle team is going to make it to the postseason

725
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Speaker 9: and be fine, and I still think they're gonna be

726
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Speaker 9: the team that you're worried about playing when you get

727
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Speaker 9: into the postseason because of where I think Barkley's gonna explode.

728
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Speaker 2: Chris Greer got fired, but they also trade away you know,

729
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Speaker 2: Jayalen Ramsey, who who can be rough right to have

730
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Speaker 2: in terms of culture and locker room. You know, they

731
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Speaker 2: don't have a guy we thought was their most talented

732
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Speaker 2: wide receiver and Tyreek Hills on the ir but again

733
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Speaker 2: some culture issues there. But the Dolphins have kind of

734
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Speaker 2: quietly stabilized themselves. Right, They've won four in a row,

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Speaker 2: they've won five of six. They have some winnable games

736
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Speaker 2: here down stretch. What's the likelihood that McDaniel and Tula

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Speaker 2: return despite the fact the general manager who hired them

738
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Speaker 2: and drafted them is no longer there.

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Speaker 9: I would say that McDaniel's trying to put together the

740
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Speaker 9: resume and you got to get him credit. And I think,

741
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Speaker 9: you know, mister Ross, the owner of the Dolphins, could

742
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Speaker 9: have just cleaned house right at one sweep and obviously

743
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Speaker 9: did not. So he must have some confidence that maybe

744
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Speaker 9: that he gets to see day to day in terms

745
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Speaker 9: of you know, maybe what we portray or we've talked

746
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Speaker 9: about media wivese of like, he's got no control over

747
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 9: the roster. He you knows, the inmates are running asylum.

748
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Speaker 9: Maybe that was more the way Greer wanted to handle things,

749
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Speaker 9: and maybe coaches decided to handle things differently. So I

750
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Speaker 9: think he can still write his own ticket here and

751
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 9: keep himself in town. I don't think it's a certainty

752
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Speaker 9: is that he's out, and I think it's been great

753
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Speaker 9: to see. It's been fun, especially, you know, watching has

754
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Speaker 9: been just writes out, so good for them, and so

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Speaker 9: I think continued to lean on what he can provide

756
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Speaker 9: and that's that's been a big, big relief for that offense.

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Speaker 2: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's Mark Dominic who, of course the former general manager

759
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Speaker 2: of the Tampay Buccaneers. Over twenty years in the NFL

760
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 2: front office, of scouting, you name it. Something weird happened

761
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Speaker 2: when we had to LESCo on on Monday. So he's

762
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: on with us and we're talking about Shane Stikeen and

763
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Speaker 2: what he can do. And I said, what have you

764
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Speaker 2: called Philip? Do you think he'll call Philip Rivers? He's like,

765
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: he's coaching high school football. I'm like, well, the guy

766
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: knows the system can still come in and it's you

767
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: can't lose a step if you never had a step

768
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Speaker 2: But he is forty four, right, and uh, you know

769
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Speaker 2: the reports were that while it hasn't been announced, he's

770
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Speaker 2: practicing as if he's going to play and start against

771
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Speaker 2: Seattle this weekend. What are your thoughts on how this

772
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Speaker 2: all works? Right late in the year, got to get

773
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Speaker 2: somebody off the street, don't have a lot working in house,

774
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Speaker 2: and what the Colts have decided to do.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think they're trying to salvage the season, right.

776
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 9: I mean, they were on fire and they look like

777
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 9: the fun story of twenty twenty five and then everything's

778
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 9: falling apart. I think this is ownership and certainly you

779
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Speaker 9: know obviously general manager, that you're trying to find a

780
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Speaker 9: way to keep yourself in the postseason and you're looking

781
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Speaker 9: for any opportunity. And for Philip Man, this is going

782
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 9: to be hard. But I do grouse you, dog. I

783
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 9: think he's going to stress, and I think he's going

784
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Speaker 9: to play. I mean, you didn't sign him to you know,

785
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 9: run a practice squad. You didn't sign him from You

786
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 9: signed a veteran quarterback who's played you know whatever, two

787
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 9: hundred games the National Football League. Yes, the game's faster

788
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 9: and it's things are different. But he does understand the

789
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 9: game very well. He's been coaching it, so that's good.

790
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Speaker 9: He's not going to be in the right condition and

791
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 9: he's going to take some really bad hits. But I

792
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 9: think they throw him in there because you're saying, hey, look,

793
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 9: we're not going to win any well, so when I

794
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 9: will put Philip in and see if it gives us

795
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 9: just a spark better than what we have, and that's

796
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Speaker 9: where you sit. I mean, that's why you've got to

797
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 9: have what you feel is and I know that they

798
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 9: tried to with Richard obviously with Daniel Jones, but you know,

799
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 9: you just get devastated at that position more than anywhere

800
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 9: you're in deep trouble. And obviously the Colts are in

801
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 9: deep trouble, and I don't think it's gonna be enough

802
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 9: to get them back to make sure that they make

803
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Speaker 9: the postseason. I don't believe that's going to happen for

804
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Speaker 9: an Indy.

805
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Speaker 2: The kids. The Chiefs have been the model, right and

806
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: now that the model of an aging, decaying, formerly great team.

807
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: How hard are their issues to fix this offseason?

808
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 9: I don't think it's that hard. And you know, I

809
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 9: actually watched some more Chiefs tape this week, and I know,

810
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 9: you know, I've been harping a little bit on the

811
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Speaker 9: offensive line coming together. One of it's got to get

812
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 9: Tray Smith healthy. But I got to tell you, Doug,

813
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Speaker 9: when I watched Josh Simmons, their first round pick, the

814
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Speaker 9: left tackle from Ohio State with a thirty second pick

815
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Speaker 9: in the draft, She's going to be phenomenal, like phenomenal

816
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Speaker 9: good you literally, So I think they've got to get

817
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Speaker 9: the right side of the line fixed. I think they

818
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Speaker 9: go back to the offensive line. Look, they've got to

819
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Speaker 9: fix the offensive line, especially the right side. Now you're

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Speaker 9: I think you're okay in terior wise, and you certainly

821
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Speaker 9: that's going to be outside good on tackle if you

822
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Speaker 9: go draft young another tackle. I think the thing that

823
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Speaker 9: I've talked about is what they have to do is

824
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Speaker 9: either in free agency or you know, and the other

825
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 9: draft pick, you know, higher in the draft, since they'll

826
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Speaker 9: be picking high in the draft for the first time

827
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Speaker 9: in forever, they've got to get a speedball. They've got

828
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Speaker 9: to get a pass rusher that can throw a fastball.

829
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Speaker 9: They have to have it because everybody can sit back

830
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Speaker 9: and uh not be worried about losing the edge and

831
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Speaker 9: that helps them. That really hurts their defense from being

832
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Speaker 9: as productive as I think they could be. So I

833
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 9: think that that's something that those two things, the right

834
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Speaker 9: tackle and finding a pass rusher are number one, number

835
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Speaker 9: two check checks for the Cancer Chiefs, and.

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Speaker 2: They probably need new tight end right I mean they,

837
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Speaker 2: I mean it feels close to time. I mean it

838
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: still can be effective, but not as effective. Going to

839
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: have to find their apparent there as well. But can't

840
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: you can't protect on the right side as well. That's

841
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Speaker 2: obviously the Priorty Mark Great Stuff. Happy Holidays, Team, Merk Christmas.

842
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Speaker 2: Thanks for being our guests. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 9: You bet enjoy the games. Freaking dog