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Speaker 1: Hey, want to welcome in. I'm Doug Godlie. This is

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Speaker 1: all fall Man. Do we have a great odd for him? Um?

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Speaker 1: This podcast, we've been able to get some interesting characters,

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Speaker 1: right and mostly from the world of basketball, so I'm

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Speaker 1: it's been uh, it's been great and we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: downloading each In every episode right where the last one

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Speaker 1: was a Christopher Chabitt, who's the uh, he's the CEO

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Speaker 1: of High Times, right, like who gets those guys and

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Speaker 1: talks hoop with him? Turns out he was a long

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Speaker 1: time overseas hooper. I do. I got another one for you,

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Speaker 1: my friend Dane de Legro. Now Dane I met coaching

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Speaker 1: with Bruce Pearl the Maccabi Games team in their tryouts

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Speaker 1: star of the New Press Editor movie. Yeah, he plays

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Speaker 1: the Predator right thinking about iconic um alien creatures and

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Speaker 1: stranger things, it was the Predator. So we'll have him

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Speaker 1: actor and he's all of six ft nine. He's he's

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Speaker 1: a great dude. Um. I did want to get into

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Speaker 1: a couple of things basketball wives as here we are

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Speaker 1: the dust is settled and as of now, and he

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Speaker 1: got Donovan Mitchell who switched teams, but Kevin Durant has not.

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Speaker 1: Neither has Kyrie Irving, neither has Westbrook. Those are kind

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Speaker 1: get worse, They're gonna get better as they continue to

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Speaker 1: try and build a team around Luca. You would think

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Speaker 1: that Denver, And if you go back to the bubble,

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Speaker 1: and with Yokich, that's a dynamic team, more dynamic than

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Speaker 1: Let's see what they look like. Chris Paul a year older,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans should be very good. Right if if Zion's

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Speaker 1: does where do the Lakers follow? Here? Right? The Lakers

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Speaker 1: after you know, some young free agent and and and

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Speaker 1: I still think that I think the Clippers to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what John Wall looks like, how it fits,

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Speaker 1: the interesting running narrative is, for a lot of these

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love traditional recruiting. I've never really

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Speaker 1: you know, with the transfer portal, teams look completely different

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Speaker 1: you know you want to do May first. Do May one.

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Speaker 1: Let's get you to Dame de Legro, who is a

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Speaker 1: and we got a lot to get to, Okay, and

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Speaker 1: um let's let's let's let's start. Okay. So you grew

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Speaker 1: weird thing because Santa Clara came here and played Harvard

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00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: and played us their first year because they had John Bryant,

425
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: who is this beast big man um who came in.

426
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: But they went there and I just they were telling

427
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: us about the Harvard Santa Clara game and they were saying, like,

428
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: how Jeremy Lynn had more fans than Santa Clara and

429
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: I think he's from that area. His Okay, So so

430
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, it looks like you lost eleven

431
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: out of twelve games. Uh in a stretch? Um, what's that?

432
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: What's that like? Though? Now? Were you when you all

433
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: your teams? Were you used to winning? Because my thing

434
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: was when I went to when I went to Notre Dame,

435
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: I've never been on a team that lost like ever ever,

436
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: was never on a bad team. I can't ever remember

437
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: being on a bad team, like asked me. Like my

438
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: high school teams, I went there because they were good.

439
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: And then my freshman year I played some varsity, some

440
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: jv whatever, but I had to. It was kind of

441
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: same thing as you in college, where I had to

442
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: start because we had guys that were suspended, injured or whatever.

443
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: My freshman year and you know, we went to the

444
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: we went to the UM went to the playoffs, and

445
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, my sophomore year we were for us. We

446
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: were okay, but you know, empirically we're very good and

447
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: playoff team like secondary league, and then we won our

448
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: league and we were one of the top teams in

449
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: the stead anyway, So I go to Notre Dame and

450
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: now we're we're losing all the time, and it was

451
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: really really, really really hard on it. That's what I'm doing.

452
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying. Oh yeah, I can do that too, but

453
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I was just turning off the rink, trying to trum

454
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: off the ringer too feature on the iPhone since like

455
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: the iPhone one, I know, my bad about that welcome

456
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: I somehow I'm I'm getting those what's it called calls?

457
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: What are those things called? Where it's like you know

458
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: the secret for that. The trick what you do is

459
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: you do like the response, the text response, and then

460
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: you hit custom and if the text is green, it's

461
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: a robot. It's not. It's not like a if you

462
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: got like a phone call from an unknown number, you

463
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: do the customer response on the on the phone and

464
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: if it's green, it's probably a yeah yeah yeah. So

465
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: it's just tough. It was like, it wasn't really that

466
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: tough because I was a happy to be there. I

467
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: was like eighteen at the time or whatever. Like, Yes,

468
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: at Lexington we were always the best. We won the

469
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: league title every year. But I went to Worcester, we

470
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: weren't that great and then I went to you and

471
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: h I was just happy to be starting. It wasn't

472
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: like a really big competitive thing for me. I was

473
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: also like I was a stupid eighteen year old kid

474
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: who didn't have his priorities straight. Like. I played hard,

475
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: I worked hard, but I was never like a hooper

476
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: growing up. I just I just like you weren't in

477
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: the lab. No, yeah, I mean I put in my time. Like,

478
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I worked really hard to improve

479
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: skills and like, um, but like wins and losses never

480
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: really affected my Like there are some guys that really

481
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: bugged them. For me, I just I just I don't know.

482
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I was okay. Um, but yeah it was. There were

483
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: times where it was definitely the last game of the

484
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: regular station you beat Vermont, we did. That was a

485
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: big one for us. I remember that they had Marcus

486
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: Blakeley who was really good. He had that dunk against

487
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Albany uh the year before that was like the dunk

488
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: of the year. Um. But yeah, I mean our senior

489
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: year coach Harran took our took like close us out

490
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: of the locker room. At one point, we couldn't wear

491
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: un h practice geared during during practice. That was so

492
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: we had to wear our own stuff. Senior year, you

493
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: started three and now you beat some chick or dude

494
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: named Leslie. Leslie's Division three school in Boston that they

495
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: owe it. We'd play Suffolk, we played and they always

496
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: bring in like a Division three school and have us

497
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: like trout him for fifty to like bring our spirits upward,

498
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: have our record. Yeah that was how Then you beat

499
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: Dartmouth buzzer beater, I I won the game with the

500
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a putback. It was little put back. Okay, Yeah,

501
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: what's so Dartmouth is the school that animal houses based upon? Really? Yeah?

502
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: The New Hampshire seems like it's got to be a

503
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: party school, right Yeah, yeah we were, but that's like

504
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: that's the state championship, Dartmouth versus New Hampshire. It's the

505
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: it's the two division one school Dartmouth, New Hampshire. No,

506
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: it's terrible. There's no one at those games like hockey,

507
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: you would be big, yes, that would be big. That

508
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: would be big. So what what's life like for student

509
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: athletes at UM? It's fun? I mean you and is

510
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: a big prep school. There's fifteen thousand people there. It's

511
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: a big it's a big public school. Um. And the

512
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: it's college culture. It's a college town. Durn, New Hampshire

513
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: is awesome. You get all all seasons. Um. You know,

514
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: it's great for football, it's great for hockey. Like I said,

515
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of basketball. Call true, they're not very

516
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: high expectations. There was there was no pressure ever, Um,

517
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I had I had a great time at school. Uh.

518
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: Would I have loved to go to like in Arizona

519
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and be on the team, They're sure, absolutely. I didn't

520
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: have that option. So you know, um, COUTERI and I

521
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: we accepted each other. I think when I was playing,

522
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: we definitely butted heads. I was a fox stick I was.

523
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: I was definitely hard to deal with what just I

524
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: don't know, Like my girlfriend broke up with me my

525
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: junior year and I like tried to quit the team.

526
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I was just you know, doing your girlfriend. Yeah, I

527
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: was just so I was so upset by it, you know,

528
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know, and and I let

529
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: you break up of you, I don't know. I think

530
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: she dated a hockey player. So they were winning, we weren't,

531
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, Um, but uh yeah, I mean I would

532
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: have been annoyed with myself as well. But yeah, I

533
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: think I think that's that's realistic for everybody. Yeah, I

534
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: it is like, man, I just wish I could go

535
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: back to me in college and be like, dude, what

536
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: are you doing. I mean, Boston and I have a

537
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: great relationship. Now. I came back this year and spoke

538
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: to the team and um, you know, it's uh, it's interesting.

539
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: It's an interesting, you know, relationship. But I'm I'm I'm

540
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: good with the team now. I think it's interesting. I

541
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: think what's fascinating is a lot of guys that go

542
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: to those clubs that you know, the Arizonas and Syracuses,

543
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: the Kentucky, the Comsas of the world. I think those

544
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: guys struggle when they go overseas more than the guys

545
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: that went to your level because a multitude of reasons. One,

546
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: facilities are way better, they're just you know, but also

547
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: like there's just an energy towards every game and the

548
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: start of every season, and when you're a pro, you

549
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: kind of got to do it on your own, right, Like,

550
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: and I get I'm sure it's different once you get

551
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to one of the big, big, big, big clubs, you know,

552
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: but it's still it's just very, very different, and you

553
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: kind of got to be a self starter. You gotta

554
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: play hard, no matter who's in the gym or how

555
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: many in the gym. You know, you gotta compete in practice.

556
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, if you lose, if you lose games,

557
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: you can't let it get to like some emotional state

558
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: where you're apoplectic over losing because you're going to lose.

559
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, you play so many games, So I do

560
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: think that that in many ways kind of prepares you

561
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: for that next long It's also like you know, you

562
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: you go to in Arizona, you go to a Kentucky

563
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: and Kansas, Like there's always that first initial thought of

564
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: fun I can go to, I could go to what

565
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: like I could go to the league. You know, let's

566
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: see that that's the big problem. And nobody wants to

567
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: be you don't. You don't want to be where you are,

568
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: You don't accept where you are. It's always about somewhere else.

569
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: When you go to Europe, it's like I went to Kansas,

570
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: and then you know, I went to Kansas. Why why

571
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: are you playing in Italy right now? You know what happened?

572
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Like there's something you know what happened is what what

573
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: you fizzled out? Like what? No, what do you mean?

574
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: First of all, Italy is nothing to shake your finger

575
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: at it. But people don't get that, you know. So

576
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: you're playing there and you're like, it's kind of an

577
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: eye roll, you know, like you probably did a you know,

578
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: camp with a team or whatever and they waived you,

579
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: and you know, then you you went to go play.

580
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: But just just the idea of being waived. Oh yeah,

581
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: those are guys who've never been cut in their life.

582
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: It's and who have you know, and it's it's funny.

583
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: It's like those guys have experienced extreme success up until

584
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: that point, high school, prep school, whatever college. You know,

585
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: you could you could win national championships at a school

586
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: and still get waived by by by someone and that's yeah,

587
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: you're right, that's the first. So you go to the

588
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: games in oh nine, right, and that is your was

589
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: that was that was that was going into my junior year.

590
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: So yes, that was July of two nine. I was

591
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I was going to be a junior um and yeah,

592
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: but I was like I was, I was single. I

593
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: went in and we didn't like I think remember Seth

594
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: joined us. He had just done traveling the Remember Seth Hobbin,

595
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: he had just got done traveling the world. He was

596
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: like in Tibet a week before, like walking around barefoot,

597
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and I remember this dude showed up and he's all

598
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: like he's older than all of us, and I'm like,

599
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: this dude six five, like man, he had me in

600
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the blender so hard when we were in Philly, Um,

601
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: it was just fun. Todd Golden, Steve Pearle, Gruber, all

602
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: the boys. It was like I didn't know. I didn't know.

603
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I didn't I had never been to Israel. I I

604
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: didn't know what the Maccabia Games was like international competition,

605
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know did they still have the trapezoid

606
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: at the time. Now I think that, yeah, so like yes,

607
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: that's your first time traveling playing basketball. I still can't

608
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: believe I got picked. Like there were so how many

609
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: people were at that tryout? There were like forty guys

610
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: at that tryout. Isaac Rosefelt, who was like a big

611
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: time player in Israel right now, he got cut from

612
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: that team. Like who the hell am I? Like, I

613
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: was averaging six and six in New Hampshire, but I

614
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: second screens and I defended people, so that's you know,

615
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: so you did. At that time, we were like, hey,

616
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I could, I could I could play here. Well, it's

617
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: interesting that what I think it might have been isaac

618
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: Rosse Folt. Someone at the time in Tennessee mentioned to me, hey,

619
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: get a passport because if you want to go play

620
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: pro it helps you get on a team overseas if

621
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: you get a passport. Oh. Interesting, I never even considered

622
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: playing professional basketball. This is interesting. So I went home.

623
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I told my dad and this is something that I can.

624
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I have to be the first person ever ever to

625
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: have to do this, to leave the Maccabia game tryouts

626
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: to go home and say Dad, and we gotta get

627
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: a passport, and goes and gets an Italian passport from Italy.

628
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, do you go home and get

629
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: we gotta get Israeli passports? No, because my dad's Italian.

630
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, we went after the It took me like

631
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: you had both. I when I when I eventually played

632
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: in Israel in two fourteen, they my team got me

633
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: a passport, yes, and Israeli passport, but I it took

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Speaker 1: us about two years to get the Italian passport. We

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Speaker 1: didn't get it till two two eleven, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that's what kind of accelerated me into the professional

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Speaker 1: basketball world. So you get done at UNH, yep, you've

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00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: done not a single camp, not a single tryout, not

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Speaker 1: a single workout. Nothing. It's funny, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: nothing against you know, the un H staff. But I

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Speaker 1: graduated there and like that's it, thank you for your service,

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Speaker 1: see you later. And that's okay, you know, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's actually not so so. I mean, like, look, part

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Speaker 1: of the job, and this is my thing, Like when

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Speaker 1: I coached the last two Maccabi games tea, your job

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Speaker 1: is to help get those guys a job, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's the same job. Like that's what your college

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Speaker 1: is supposed to do as if you're a coach, Like

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Speaker 1: that's part of the job. I believe part of the

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Speaker 1: job and is to help in any way. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: my my my college coach is got rest of all

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Speaker 1: was a legend. But like his plan was like you

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Speaker 1: you should go play in Israel to you can't walk,

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Speaker 1: and then you should come back and coach the women's

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Speaker 1: I was like, what you need to come back and

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Speaker 1: coach the women's teams? No pressure there, you make about

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Speaker 1: half a million dollars, you know, time you get back back,

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Speaker 1: maybe about a half million dollars. You just coach ball.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to deal with all the bull crap.

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Speaker 1: We gotta deal with it. And I was like, coach,

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Speaker 1: I have no Like, you know, my brother is now

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Speaker 1: coaching the women's side Grand Canyon and he loves it.

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Speaker 1: But I was like at the time, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're telling a kid in his early twenties

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Speaker 1: like coach women's hoop. Like that stabbed me in the

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Speaker 1: fucking heart, And like, what do you like this? I

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Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say, hey, whenever you're done, you

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Speaker 1: got a spot on my staff kids, women's men's BASKETBA wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I could never. I could never be a coach in

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Speaker 1: a million years. That really. Yeah, I know I think

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Speaker 1: I'm not a very technical, but you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: You just have to have a role that you fit.

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Speaker 1: I would have a tough time. Yeah, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it's such a grind scouting,

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Speaker 1: dealing with kids, academics, you know, the whole. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a job in like so many the shitty pay for

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Speaker 1: so long and it's like that's That's the part that's

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: always interesting is you get fans are like, yo, it

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Speaker 1: coaches to make so much money. You're like, well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, some of them do some of them do?

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Speaker 1: You know? It's probably about them to make really really

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Speaker 1: good money. But then there's like five thousand college Division

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Speaker 1: one college coaches that don't make great money and that's

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Speaker 1: maybe and the ones that are they didn't make ship

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Go go look at what the

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Speaker 1: un H coaches. That's public information. Yeah. No, I would guess.

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Speaker 1: I would guess, like right now, Harry has been there forever. Right,

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Speaker 1: his son is the son of the staff. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's good friend of mine. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I would guess Bill makes I am not even

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Speaker 1: looking three fifty max. That sounds right. I think he

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Speaker 1: had just signed for one fifty when I graduated, so

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Speaker 1: it's probably gone up. Yeah, I mean, and I mean

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Speaker 1: we're talking ten years later. Let's say he makes three.

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Speaker 1: You're also in New Hampshire, which is good. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: you're also in New Hampshire, but there was no taxes there,

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Speaker 1: which is great. There's always taxes. There's whole there's no taxes.

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Speaker 1: Thing is less well, there's no what is state income tax? Uh?

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Speaker 1: When you have no state income tax, they get you

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Speaker 1: back on the property tax. They they find a way

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Speaker 1: they get their ship done. I do know New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: has some tex text, but it was like no taxes.

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Speaker 1: Everybody would live there, right, Yeah, that would be especially

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Speaker 1: people in Boston, like every I know there's a tax.

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Speaker 1: Uh New Hampshire license place, driving room. Yes, well, my

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Speaker 1: thanks to Dane. He was awesome. Um, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a part two on this one and we'll drop it

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