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Speaker 1: Good to have you along with us.

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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court today appeared inclined to limit the Voter

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Speaker 3: that are favorable to minority voters. This all stems from

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Speaker 3: a case at of Louisiana, where a black majority House

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Speaker 3: district is in question and the Planet's claim it relied

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Speaker 3: too heavily on race to draw those congressional lines, which

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Speaker 3: are technically not supposed to do. Zach Schoenfeld is with

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Speaker 3: the Hill and joins us. Now, the AP story says

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Speaker 3: that the Supreme Court appeared inclined. How do we draw

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Speaker 3: that conclusion? Was there statements made?

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Speaker 4: Hey lou Well that is based on more than two

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Speaker 4: and a half hours of questioning today from the justices.

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Speaker 4: They heard from four different lawyers, one from the Trump administry,

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Speaker 4: one from Louisiana, and then two others from two different

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Speaker 4: groups of voters. These oral arguments are really the chance

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Speaker 4: thinking on this case. Now that being said, this case

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Speaker 4: is a bit unusual because this is actually a re argument.

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Speaker 4: This was the second time that they're hearing arguments in

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Speaker 4: this case. This doesn't happen very often. They heard arguments

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Speaker 4: last term, and now they're raising the states by presenting

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Speaker 4: a new question that really has implications not only for

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Speaker 4: Louisiana's congressional map, but asking this broad question of whether

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Speaker 4: states can continue to be forced to draw additional majority

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Speaker 4: minority districts under section two of the voting Right Zack. So,

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Speaker 4: obviously we don't know anything for sure until a decision

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Speaker 3: Is there any sense that we'll get a decision in

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Speaker 3: time for primary elections? I mean it, this is you

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Speaker 3: know sometimes you know, you hear oral arguments, and there

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Speaker 3: is no decision until June of next year. But that

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Speaker 3: might be too late for new congressional lines to be drawn.

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Speaker 4: I think that's right on now Louisiana. Today they did

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Speaker 4: But as you mentioned, that primary calendar is already fast approaching,

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Speaker 4: and the Justices, you know, they could release a decision

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Speaker 4: rather quickly. Maybe they'll wait until their normal decision season

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Speaker 4: in May and June. We just don't know at this point. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: if they get a decision out very quickly, there'd be

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Speaker 4: the potential that things could change in Louisiana before next November.

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Speaker 4: But it certainly seems like there is a strong possibility

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem to me though, that they seem

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Speaker 3: this Supreme Court seems to be a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Like if you're listening.

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Speaker 3: To arguments that affect a house district in Louisiana and

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Speaker 3: you have your opinion, then you might want to issue

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Speaker 3: which would be next year.

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Speaker 1: And primaries are prior to the general election.

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Speaker 3: Of course, candidacies, statements have to be followed by candidates,

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Speaker 3: there a sense that we're still in nineteen sixty five

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Speaker 3: and these rules need to apply, or that nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: five is a long time ago and conditions have just changed,

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Speaker 3: and to use Civil Rights Act language to try and

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Speaker 3: which was next year, just is no longer you mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: That is one of the main arguments that we heard

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Speaker 1: Enacting new voting rules. That was struck down.

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Speaker 4: Under that logic, And we've also seen a similar thing

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Speaker 1: To reign in Section two of the Voting Rights Act.

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Speaker 3: They're still discussing that in Shelby County, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: What's the mood on the hill?

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Speaker 3: Is there any concern among Democrats in the minority and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that certainly members of Congress are

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Speaker 1: Well, they do have some time on their hands, so

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Speaker 3: But I can certainly see why representatives from the state

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Speaker 1: We have these.

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Speaker 3: We have these conversations every ten years here in California.

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Speaker 3: We're having a different conversation this year. You might have

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Speaker 1: And really the Civil Rights Act of sixty.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me all right, coming up when when

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Speaker 3: Governor Gavin Newsen was on a podcast, and he's always

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Speaker 3: Higher Learning podcast with Van Latham and Rachel Lindsay and

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Speaker 3: he says, I don't have Trump derangement syndrome, but Trump

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Speaker 3: has California derangement syndrome. We'll tell you what he thinks

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Speaker 3: that means, and I want to know if you agree.

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Speaker 3: It's all coming up next. Luke Penrose in for John

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Speaker 3: Latham and Rachel Lindsay. California Governor Gavin Newsom was on

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Speaker 3: the podcast. He does a lot of podcasting. I don't

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Speaker 3: know where he finds the bookers for these podcasts, Like

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Speaker 3: He said that he doesn't have Trump derangement syndrome, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, including President Trump, have California derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 6: California derangement syndrome. He's part of it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think people are obsessed with focusing on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think President Trump is obsessed with focusing

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Speaker 3: You don't want to get in an argument with a

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Speaker 3: A lot of people have left, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: But people do move to California too.

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Speaker 3: But really, I'm not wanting to talk down California. I

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Speaker 1: And Comma, California can do a lot better on its

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Speaker 3: California can do a lot better on its business on

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Speaker 3: attracting business, I'm being attractive to business, And California can

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Speaker 1: So two things can be true at the same time.

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Speaker 3: So I don't fault the governor for being proud of

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Speaker 3: the successes of the state, But you cannot not acknowledge

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Speaker 1: You guys are doing really well.

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Speaker 3: That would suggest that we'd be like number two or

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Speaker 1: Now I don't think that's it. I do think that

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Speaker 3: Getting along here in California despite a higher tax burden.

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Speaker 3: So I think we do do well because I think

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Speaker 1: It's too nice out. Trust me. If it was rating all.

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Speaker 3: The time like Bighamton, New York, and you overtaxed and overregulated,

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Speaker 3: Governor avenusom and is concerned that there's not so much

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry to correct you, but California is the fifth

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Speaker 1: It just broke from laries today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well tell the governor so we slid. We slid

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Speaker 1: California not as clean as it was.

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Speaker 8: The things that would help us would be low tax

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Speaker 8: Those are the things that affect us when you look

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Speaker 8: only thing we have going for us right now is our.

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Speaker 3: But the sun is shining and it is that that

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Speaker 3: And that's what keeps us in a high tax state

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Speaker 3: with lawmakers that continue to tax us to death. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Walmart is going to go completely AI and I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure how far this can go before there is an

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Speaker 3: unattended consequence.

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Speaker 7: Walmart is partnering with open Ai to allow customers to

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Speaker 7: buy its products through chat.

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Speaker 1: GPT using instant checkout.

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Speaker 9: The new offering will give Walmart customers the option to

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Speaker 9: simply chat and buy.

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Speaker 1: Just chat and buy.

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Speaker 3: Eventually there'll be nobody at Walmart. They'll just be products

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Speaker 3: at Walmart and they'll rig away for your phone to

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Speaker 3: be like that scan gun that the people have when

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Speaker 3: you're not sure what the price is. Do you ever

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Speaker 3: have that happen? They have that at Target too. Target's

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Speaker 3: great Target. They can tell you if it's at a stock.

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Speaker 3: Like let's say you need a size seven to eight

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Speaker 3: in khaki pants for your son for some special location

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Speaker 3: at school, and you go to Target and there's none

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Speaker 3: there because everybody in the school beats you to Target.

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Speaker 3: But Target will tell you, you know, the other Target

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Speaker 3: has three.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Walmart can do that for you,

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Speaker 3: but I like that trick. They can tell you what

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Speaker 3: the inventory is at the end. This is assuming that

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Speaker 3: the people doing inventory at the other target did inventory

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Speaker 3: properly and the customers put everything back on the rack

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Speaker 3: where it belongs.

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Speaker 1: But this is the new way.

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Speaker 3: This is the way it's gonna go and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that's it's gonna be for everything.

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Speaker 1: You'll just take your phone.

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Speaker 3: With you to Walmart and you just scan things and

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Speaker 3: leave and it just deducts from whatever account is attached

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Speaker 3: to the account.

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Speaker 1: And that sounds cool.

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Speaker 3: I did this. There is one of these places that

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Speaker 3: I know of at LAX. I think it's at the

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Speaker 3: end of the Delta terminal. They must be, because Delta

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Speaker 3: is new. It's all the way down at the Delta ternal.

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Speaker 3: When you get to the end, and there's a kind

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Speaker 3: of like a rotunda down there, there's a store where

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Speaker 3: you can get food and candy and snacks and everything

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Speaker 3: you need to get on the plane. But there's nobody

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Speaker 3: in the store and it's all sealed in a great

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Speaker 3: big glass box. And you walk in and something beeps,

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Speaker 3: and you just take what you want off the show

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Speaker 3: and you walk out and something beeps and somewhere your

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Speaker 3: credit card's debited, or my wife's credit card is debited.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's kind of space age.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool, but the problem is there's no friction,

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Speaker 3: and there ought to be a little bit of friction,

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Speaker 3: like you need to know what.

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Speaker 1: The prices are. I'm sure the prices are listed somewhere,

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Speaker 1: but nobody.

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Speaker 3: Was looking at the prices because you're just grabbing what

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Speaker 3: you want and then you walk out, and like it's

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Speaker 3: frictionless in that regard, but there is no friction with

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Speaker 3: respect to price, So they could be charging whatever they

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Speaker 3: want and you won't notice it because you're just walking around.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been to one of those Amazon stores yet,

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Speaker 3: but I understand it works the same way, where like

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Speaker 3: the whole store is being scanned at all times, and

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Speaker 3: you just load things into your shopping cart and somewhere

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Speaker 3: at some point, the scanner hits your can of coffee

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Speaker 3: or whatever it is is in your cart and finds

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Speaker 3: the code, the barcode, and it's all good.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it's going to be at Walmart.

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Speaker 3: So this is going to be and if AI is

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Speaker 3: moving as fast as they say AI is moving, then

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Speaker 3: this will be in every Walmart immediately because this is

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Speaker 3: a huge cost saver. Labor and manpower a big cost

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Speaker 3: for a lot of these stories, especially with the wage

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Speaker 3: laws now.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see where this goes, but they're already using it.

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Speaker 3: I noticed at Wendy's the drive through Lady is completely AI.

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Speaker 3: I was just throw a Wendy's drive through and it

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Speaker 3: was completely AI and she got it right.

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Speaker 1: She got everything right.

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Speaker 3: And I'm particular I get things extra pickles and no

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Speaker 3: mayo and they got it all right. So it was

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Speaker 3: completely amazing. So this is one of these things that

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Speaker 3: I think is going to happen fast. Like back in

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Speaker 3: the day, you had a deal. When you called customer

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Speaker 3: service or called anybody on the phone, you had to

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Speaker 3: go through voice menu prompts, and that was cumbersome and

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Speaker 3: somewhat annoying from time to time, but it was ever

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Speaker 3: present and ubiquitous. There's no way out of it. You

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Speaker 3: would just hit zero hoping to get a customer service.

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Speaker 3: Remember how hard you would hit zero to get customer service,

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Speaker 3: thinking that would solve your problem. And you finally get

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Speaker 3: a person that might have worked back in the day

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Speaker 3: that doesn't work anymore now, and there is not going

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Speaker 3: to be a person.

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Speaker 1: It's just going to be AI everywhere all the time.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be the new Walmart Hey, new

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Speaker 3: menus in California as well. So if you're allergic to

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Speaker 3: anything now, the law says they got to tell you

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Speaker 3: right on the menu.

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Speaker 9: Starting in twenty twenty six, businesses in California will have

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Speaker 9: to disclose ingredients including milk, eggs, shellfish, and tree nuts

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Speaker 9: when they know or reasonably should know, that they are

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Speaker 9: in their products. The bill's sponsor, California Democratic State Senator

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Speaker 9: Caroline Benjebark, said the new bill will give peace of

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Speaker 9: mind and millions of Californians with food allergies when eating out.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So all the tree nut people, you're all

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Speaker 1: good to go.

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