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Speaker 2: Hey, then let's do it live on a Friday edition

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Speaker 2: He is el Commandante joining us here on the program

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Speaker 2: the Great Z.

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Speaker 3: And I won't apologize for or should you give bent?

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Speaker 3: If you want me to apologize for that?

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Speaker 2: How do you do? Baby?

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Speaker 3: By the way, sorry time I realized today this I

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Speaker 3: was had some s tendency, says I was gleefully texting you.

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Speaker 3: I have no concept of what time. You don't know

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Speaker 3: where you are, man.

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Speaker 2: You were in you were in your bed, what four

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Speaker 2: in the morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you need you need a nap?

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Speaker 3: Ski?

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Speaker 2: Are you a nap ski?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever napped.

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Speaker 2: My dad was a big napper when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: and he would he would do it and he still does.

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Speaker 2: Like you can do like a twenty minute nap and

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Speaker 2: then just get up bounced, ready to refresh. If I

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Speaker 2: do that, I'm done.

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Speaker 3: I don't nap. I nap if it is something significant

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Speaker 3: has happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm like sick and then I found it.

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Speaker 2: Even when I tried to do it, I end up

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Speaker 2: basically just being tired the rest of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got a power through absolutely. How do you want

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Speaker 2: to do this? You want to do good stuff or

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Speaker 2: do you want to do the.

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Speaker 3: Other I'd rather get out, get the not good out

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Speaker 3: of the way, and then we can.

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Speaker 2: Be we have fun down the end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather like it's like at the bottom and

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Speaker 3: then we're going to go up a mountain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm I. I approach life. You and I approach life

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Speaker 2: in a similar way. Let's let's get the bad over

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Speaker 2: with and then we can you know, then it's in

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Speaker 2: the past. We said yesterday there was only one thing

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Speaker 2: that could really come of this game. There's really only

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Speaker 2: one thing that would in terms of how it would

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Speaker 2: impact the football team, and it was Kaid York That

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Speaker 2: was it. That was it was the one thing. So

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Speaker 2: for full disclosure, I watched well into the third and

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Speaker 2: then that's night, night time for your uncle bo. And

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Speaker 2: so I was I was going, I went to sleep.

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Speaker 2: So when I went to bed, three for three, feeling good,

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Speaker 2: feeling feeling good, Billy Ray, I mean, it felt like Okay, Lewis,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that is the correct answer for the

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Speaker 2: best Philadelphia movie ever made. It is not Rocky. It

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Speaker 2: is impact trading places. I like that, and that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: So I get up this morning and then of course

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Speaker 2: you see it all and you lived it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: Going so well. And then you know there's a social

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Speaker 2: media repost and all of that. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: going on here on this side of things. Coach is

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Speaker 2: going to be not necessarily to address this, but later

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Speaker 2: he does. His availability he could who knows, but he's available.

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Speaker 2: You know, as we're going we'll play that soon. We'll

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Speaker 2: play that soon. You were there, buddy, So.

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Speaker 3: It's you wanted to see it go in. And the

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Speaker 3: first three that all went in got kind of progressively,

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Speaker 3: which ultimately it's binary that is good is good and

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Speaker 3: there and you're like, all right, if he can make

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Speaker 3: drill it right down the pipe. You're feeling really good. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he's back. He pushed that one, not by much, but

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Speaker 3: hits it left. This is something again that is relatable

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Speaker 3: Football League. And that's what happened. So you know, now

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Speaker 3: this is mental. He's got all the physical gifts in

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Speaker 3: the world. There's a lot of belief in him. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, now you have to have questions.

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Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is he's an attempted a

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Speaker 3: three for seven on the preseason because he missed two

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Speaker 2: Yeah I missed two. I mean officially one.

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Speaker 3: But two, he missed two, and he is one for

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Speaker 3: one inside of forty yards. He's two for six yeah,

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Speaker 3: from forty to forty nine, two for six, and so

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Speaker 3: he's right. I mean afterwards he's right like he hasn't

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Speaker 3: missed in practice, but that doesn't matter, just like the

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Speaker 3: driving range doesn't matter to a golfer.

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Speaker 2: That's the perfect to know. It matters what you do

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Speaker 2: on with the debutane, I don't know. Is debut Tannge

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's shocking.

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Speaker 2: Still on crutches, sad As you were saying, the driving

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Speaker 2: rage analogy is the perfect one. When I saw the

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Speaker 2: comments this morning about how I only missed one in

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Speaker 2: practice out of forty five attempts. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people can stripe the range.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta go do it when it matters. And

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Speaker 3: what Cay New York has the talent to go be

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Speaker 3: the next You know, Daniel Carlson, a guy who was

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Speaker 3: they move on from him. He goes to the Raiders

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Speaker 3: and is one of the best kickers in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He has all the talent in the world. I'm just concerned,

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Speaker 3: you know this season is too important. There is too

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Speaker 3: much at stake. Chris Rose made a great point last

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Speaker 3: night on the on the radio with Us when he said,

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Speaker 3: you know, last year had the lowest margin of victory,

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Speaker 3: average margin of victory and NFL history. Yeah, so every

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Speaker 3: point matters. And I'll give you want a perfect example

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Speaker 3: now one one in one. Right, if you were to

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Speaker 3: lose to the Commanders seventeen to fifteen. BO three greater

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Speaker 3: making the postseason and not. Yeah, and so you can't

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Speaker 3: have that now. No, there isn't a quarterback kicker on

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you carry two kickers on your

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Speaker 3: don't know. But the way that you are right now,

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Speaker 3: and the feelings that he has to have, the feeling

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Speaker 3: I said on the end of the broadcast last night,

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Speaker 3: Imagine we go into it. We go with Kate and

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Speaker 3: the field for a forty eight yard field goal in

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the nervous energy would be tangible.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's not what that's not. You don't want that

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: He may very well go out there and strip it

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Speaker 2: It feels like he's and he's talking now, and that's

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Speaker 3: I understand it for you. I understand wanting to support him,

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Speaker 3: there is too much at stake to go into it

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Speaker 2: Right now, you said you had two to six forty

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Speaker 2: where there are ten, eleven, twelve teams that are playoff contenders,

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Speaker 2: another six or seven of you themselves as Super Bowl contenders.

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Speaker 2: We'd like to think that we're one of those teams.

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Speaker 2: Right the margin is too thin for two for six.

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Speaker 2: And I don't you know, I you know you think

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Speaker 2: we are too old to have grown up with social media.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a point of reference on that. We

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Speaker 2: by the time you know, social media became, you know,

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Speaker 2: late twenties, early thirties, by the time social media became,

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Speaker 2: you know, a real factor in America, in our society,

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Speaker 2: children who my oldest is just getting into world where

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Speaker 2: the way it goes. Yep. Every one of us out

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Speaker 2: grown up in social media and so they cannot turn

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Speaker 2: we saw this with our former quarterback. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I'll go take the golf analogy even farther. How many

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Speaker 2: What anytime stating in front of water.

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Speaker 3: If you have negative thoughts, what's going to happen there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you stay in the golf, it's rory over

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Speaker 2: Everything else is bottom roster. Who makes team that type

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Speaker 2: position by position, but there has been there have been

435
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Speaker 2: guys consistently, We've played three preseason games guys, and there

436
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Speaker 2: have been guys consistently who have shown out time and

437
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Speaker 2: time again, and they have stacked it like dtr not

438
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Speaker 2: a fluke, Watkins not a fluke. Hickman not a fluke. Jones,

439
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Speaker 2: Harris Whipler not a fluke. Andrew Berry is gonna have

440
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Speaker 2: some really difficult decisions to make at the bottom side

441
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Speaker 2: of this roster.

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Speaker 3: And that's maybe an exercise we can go through at

443
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Speaker 3: some point today after maybe we go through the grades.

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Speaker 3: Just be like okay, right now, just a quick kind

445
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Speaker 3: of snap at the fifty three because it's gonna you're

446
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Speaker 3: gonna see where the pressure points are and then you're

447
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Speaker 3: gonna realize we probably want to keep like fifty six guys,

448
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Speaker 3: and that's gonna be you can't can't, no, you cannot

449
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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: No, and it you know, I don't know, like with

451
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Speaker 2: THEA body like, I don't know, I don't know, what

452
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Speaker 2: do you He's kind of playing himself into it more

453
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Speaker 2: than I don't know how. Well, here's we have some

454
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Speaker 2: numbers that I don't know how they're going to add up, buddy,

455
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Speaker 2: same with Jacob Phillips is a dude.

456
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Speaker 3: Jacob Phillips is on the last year of his rookie deal.

457
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Speaker 3: He'll spend that on IR and you feel like, unfortunately

458
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Speaker 3: his time in Cleveland has done you just when you

459
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Speaker 3: when you appear in twenty out of you know, sixty

460
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Speaker 3: seven possible games, your best abilities availability. So he was

461
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Speaker 3: on last year's deal. A walks on a one year deal,

462
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: talks on a one year deal. So you have a

463
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Speaker 3: bunch of the top guys in your linebacker room or

464
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Speaker 3: who you thought were the top guys on one year deals.

465
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Speaker 3: You don't have a lot of really long term guys here.

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Speaker 3: You know, j ok I'll have one more year. Fields

467
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Speaker 3: will have one more year on his deal that he's

468
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Speaker 3: entering his third year. I think Matt Adams is on

469
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Speaker 3: a one year deal as well. Kunashik's on a one

470
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Speaker 3: year deal. So you know, to be able to have

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Speaker 3: a young guy like Dabody that you know is in

472
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Speaker 3: your program for three as an undrafted free agent, then

473
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Speaker 3: you have him as a restricted free agency, you'd be

474
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Speaker 3: he's likely here for four I think would be a

475
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Speaker 3: very valuable thing right now. But then the question is

476
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Speaker 3: going to become, you know, has Ronnie Hickman played his

477
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Speaker 3: way on the team. Well, if you have five safeties,

478
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Speaker 3: can you have six corners? If you have five safeties,

479
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Speaker 3: can you have six linebackers? If you have five safeties,

480
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Speaker 3: can you have ten offensive linemen? So there are a

481
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Speaker 3: lot of individual little pressure points here on this roster

482
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Speaker 3: and what the kind of construction of that fifty three

483
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Speaker 3: is going to be. And remember we're gonna have to

484
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Speaker 3: carry Alex right on the initial fifty three. Now, one

485
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Speaker 3: way that you'd be able to do that is you

486
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Speaker 3: take somebody who is a vested veteran and you say

487
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Speaker 3: to them we're gonna cut you. You sign with us well,

488
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Speaker 3: and you have like that you know, agreement. We saw

489
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Speaker 3: that with Malcolm Smith a couple of years ago. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: and that way you're able to know because he doesn't

491
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Speaker 3: have to be on that that initial fifty three, but

492
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Speaker 3: he's still going to be on your team before you

493
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Speaker 3: can then procedurally move, Alex Wright say to IR. So

494
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Speaker 3: it's going to be very interesting how this all shakes out,

495
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Speaker 3: and we can go through that. But there are certain

496
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Speaker 3: things that I think are set I think there are

497
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Speaker 3: other things that are set to that you know, for example,

498
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Speaker 3: maybe not as a good of a side of things

499
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Speaker 3: is now I like that I saw from Jordan Wilkins

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Speaker 3: last and I'm curious to see more of him. If

501
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Speaker 3: we do see more of him. Yeah, he hits some juice,

502
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Speaker 3: but he's you know, he's the only guy on the

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Speaker 3: team that has more than you know, one hundred and

504
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Speaker 3: chain yards rushing in the NFL, well, other than Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this a little bit yesterday. I do

506
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Speaker 2: wonder if the extraordinary amount of depth that we have

507
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Speaker 2: at certain positions could be used and you would know

508
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Speaker 2: this better than I. But in terms of like can

509
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Speaker 2: you what it makes sense to do some pre cut

510
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Speaker 2: down to a pre cut down trade.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's possible, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I think we just have such an incredible amount of

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Speaker 2: depth on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: We do. But at the same time, you need that

515
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Speaker 3: depth on the offensive line, right like you need. That's

516
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Speaker 3: a very important thing to have for you, and I

517
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Speaker 3: think you have.

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Speaker 2: How many of them are you going to keep? Buddy

519
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Speaker 2: like ten?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Tyrone Wheatley Junior may be playing

521
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Speaker 3: at such a level right now that it would be

522
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Speaker 3: impossible to get him through the practe squad. He would

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Speaker 3: be the perfect candidate because he's clearly your fifth tackle.

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Speaker 3: So he would be the perfect candidate to say, Okay,

525
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Speaker 3: this is somebody maybe we can swap out. You know,

526
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Speaker 3: we've talked about the Jets are having issues to send

527
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Speaker 3: him to the Jets. Bring Michael Carter here and that

528
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: way you're guaranteed to get him, you know. And then

529
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Speaker 3: our other bat, you know, Wes Martin, this guy who's

530
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Speaker 3: played a ton in the league. He's having a good

531
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Speaker 3: camp or a good preseason. Whipler you mentioned Michael Dunn,

532
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Speaker 3: I mean we have a lot and then Drew Forbes.

533
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Speaker 3: So there are yes, there is a glut there and

534
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Speaker 3: at some point, yeah, you would want to do that

535
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Speaker 3: to maybe make a move. Wilkins I thought was very

536
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Speaker 3: impressively ran hard. I like them pass I liked him too.

537
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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see, you know, if that's enough. But

538
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Speaker 3: he feels to me like the one one guy that

539
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Speaker 3: has the experience to maybe be that third running backs

540
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: run for over one thousand yards in his career, five

541
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Speaker 3: yards of carry first career, he's caught forty two balls.

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Speaker 3: He feels to me like he fits that mold of

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Speaker 3: you know what a dearness Johnson could give you, Like

544
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Speaker 3: if you needed to turn it over to him for

545
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Speaker 3: one night or two nights in the year, he can

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Speaker 3: do it. But you know, we've kind of crowned Jerome

547
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Speaker 3: Ford and I liked what he did Cincinnati, but we

548
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Speaker 3: haven't seen it. I haven't seen it man, not in

549
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Speaker 3: the NFL. No, not in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So all right, that sets the table. You're going to

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Speaker 2: hear from coach he was available to the media. We

552
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Speaker 2: will have that for you. We will do that positional

553
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Speaker 2: breakdown that Z talked about. You'll hear from Catherine Racis

554
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Speaker 2: assistant GM. She will join us in the two o'clock

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Speaker 2: Coach Stefanski talking to the.

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Speaker 5: Media about last night or this morning whenever.

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Speaker 6: That was uh, you know, really productive week for us

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Speaker 6: there in Philly. I really thought the practices the game

570
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Speaker 6: was a great opportunity for our our guys, great opportunity

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Speaker 6: for the starters and those practices, great opportunity for the

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Speaker 6: backups in that game.

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Speaker 5: So back at it.

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Speaker 6: Back and Brias still in training camp mode and looking

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Speaker 6: forward to continuing to work and with that, I'll take

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Speaker 6: any questions.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Kevin, I know you talked about kid last night,

578
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Speaker 7: but you keep saying that he's kind of like the

579
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Speaker 7: same as the other players, you know, using the preseason

580
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Speaker 7: to get ready for the regular season, but doesn't kick

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Speaker 7: or feel different in that the operations the same whether

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Speaker 7: it's the preseason or regular season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think you know, now's the time to

584
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Speaker 6: work on our craft. And obviously, like we talked about

585
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Speaker 6: last night, you know, kickers want to make every kick.

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Speaker 6: We want Kaid to make every kick. You just got

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Speaker 6: to continue to work through it. I mean it's really

588
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 6: as simple as that. The kid works very hard.

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Speaker 5: He'll continue to do that.

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Speaker 7: He's been so good in practice. Have you guys noticed

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Speaker 7: or as he said, that there's anything that's been different

592
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Speaker 7: mechanically from practice to the games.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously there shouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's part of taking the practice field to

595
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Speaker 6: the game field, like we talked about with all of

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Speaker 6: our players.

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Speaker 5: But so you got to look at everything.

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Speaker 6: You got to look at the procedure, you have to

599
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Speaker 6: look at your technique, and we'll continue to do that.

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Speaker 8: Kevin. It's very difficult sometimes for head coaches have patients

601
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Speaker 8: with kickers, you work for one in six years, Zimer

602
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 8: went through four of them, including a guy who's now

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Speaker 8: one of the best kickers in the league, Carlson. So

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Speaker 8: how much did that experience affect what you're going through

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Speaker 8: right now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think Tony, with any young player, certainly you've

607
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: seen it with kickers, you do go through a tough

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Speaker 6: period here or there. I have a ton of confidence

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Speaker 6: in Kid because I've seen him do it in practice.

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Speaker 6: I've seen him do it in games, so he'll continue

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Speaker 6: to work. But it's really you know, I really feel

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Speaker 6: it's no different than any other player that they continue

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Speaker 6: They got to work on their craft and now's the

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Speaker 6: time to do that. Obviously, Kid wants to make every kick.

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Speaker 6: We wanted to make every kick. It's an occupational hazard

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Speaker 6: that you're going to miss one. It's just how you

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Speaker 6: deal with it and how you bounce back from it.

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Speaker 8: Just specifically about Daniel Carlson and Zimerm the cuttingham after

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Speaker 8: two games, I mean with the teaching experience to you

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Speaker 8: all of.

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Speaker 6: It's a teaching experience for me, Tony. You know everything,

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Speaker 6: of course, but I don't want to get.

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Speaker 5: Into that specific situation.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I just and I understand the question,

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Speaker 6: but I do think Kid has the right mentality to

626
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Speaker 6: continue to.

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Speaker 5: Work through it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Kevin, non kicker question for you, Mohamed dia Bote,

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Speaker 9: just you know, another outstanding game from him last night.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from him?

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Speaker 9: And uh, you know how how difficult is he making

632
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 9: some of the roster decisions there in that windbacker room

633
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Speaker 9: on you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought Mamood quitted himself very well last night.

635
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 6: Like we talked about, he's a very active player sideline

636
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 6: of sideline. You love ball aware players, You love guys

637
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 6: that can knock the ball out, and he certainly did that.

638
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 6: He's really taken practice field to game field. But like

639
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: you mentioned, this is a this is the part of

640
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: training camp and the part of our business where we

641
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 6: continue to get young players reps and ultimately make really

642
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 6: tough decisions later on. But for us right now, really

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Speaker 6: the focus is on just continuing to get better. We're

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Speaker 6: very much in training camp mode. Still, two questions, Kevin, First,

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Speaker 6: why do you think it is better not to bring in.

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Speaker 5: Kicking er to compete with Kid?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just our decision, you know, Obviously, Kid's our

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Speaker 6: kicker where we support him. We have a ton of

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00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 6: confidence in him. That's really as simple as that. And

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Speaker 6: then do you have any problem with him posting at

651
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Speaker 6: halftime on Instagram that.

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Speaker 5: He was three for three.

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Speaker 6: I'm aware of that. That was not Kaid who posted that.

654
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Speaker 6: I'll talk to him about that. And all of our players,

655
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Speaker 6: we know the rules. They're not allowed to be none

656
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Speaker 6: of us players, coaches, we're not allowed to be on

657
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Speaker 6: our phones once kickoff hits.

658
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Speaker 5: So we'll address that with the guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering. You know, it's going to be

660
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Speaker 4: a numbers game obviously in the receiver room, and I

661
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Speaker 4: know you guys are going to have some tough decisions

662
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Speaker 4: to make in there, but you also have a number

663
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Speaker 4: of injuries at the position that I think will probably

664
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Speaker 4: factor into what happens with the fifty three. But you know,

665
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Speaker 4: having said all that, my question is it really seems

666
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Speaker 4: like Austin Watkins has just made a tremendous impact over

667
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Speaker 4: these past few weeks and it looks, you know, it's

668
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Speaker 4: starting to look like he's making a really strong case

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Speaker 4: for himself to be on that fifty three. Is that true?

670
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the tape is your resume, Mary kay,

671
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Speaker 6: So I think for all of our players, you want

672
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 6: to go out and be very productive in practice, be

673
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Speaker 6: very productive in these games. Austin obviously had a big

674
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Speaker 6: night last night and continues to do a good job

675
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Speaker 6: for us all the rest of it. How that sorts

676
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: out that that's why we have camp, that's why we

677
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Speaker 6: have another preseason game.

678
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Speaker 5: But excited about what he was able to do and.

679
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: What does he bring to the table, like what makes

680
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Speaker 4: him special?

681
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you saw last night some impressive route running.

682
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: He's some of the techniques that he's used. You see

683
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Speaker 6: it right and from the practice field, right from the

684
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Speaker 6: one on ones the other day in Philly, right into

685
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Speaker 6: the game tape. So I think he's done a nice

686
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Speaker 6: job running routes, been very dependable catching the ball as well.

687
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Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin, I had an Austin Watkins question too. He's

688
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 10: mentioned that when I talked to him a couple of

689
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Speaker 10: weeks ago that when he came into the league he

690
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Speaker 10: really kind of had to learn how to be a pro,

691
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Speaker 10: and he didn't really do that until he got to

692
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Speaker 10: lead to the USFL. So I'm just wondering, what did

693
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Speaker 10: you see from him in his time in the USFL.

694
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Speaker 10: And how important are those spring leagues for a guy

695
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 10: like him that kind of, you know, maybe needs to

696
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Speaker 10: grow up a little bit and learn how to do this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody's path is a little bit different, Dan,

699
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Speaker 6: and you know, we're all kind of growing at a

700
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Speaker 6: different pace, if you will. And where he is now,

701
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 6: he's certainly a pro. I mean, he takes care of

702
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: his business. Those spring leagues, those are reps. Those are

703
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 6: just great opportunities for guys to get reps in games,

704
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: reps in practice really just continue to work on their craft.

705
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Speaker 6: So I think you do see a player that continues

706
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Speaker 6: to improve.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Kevin, just want to go over some injuries with you.

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Speaker 7: Is Jack still in the protocol?

709
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Speaker 5: Yes?

710
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Speaker 7: And did Ronnie have to go into the protocol?

711
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Speaker 2: Pickman?

712
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Speaker 6: You know what they were testing for that. I'll get

713
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Speaker 6: you answer that. I don't know if he's officially in

714
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Speaker 6: that protocol or not.

715
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Speaker 7: Okay, And do you know about Burns and Ford who

716
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 7: I think they left the shoulders yesterday?

717
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Speaker 5: Yes they did. They're both day to day.

718
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Kevin, I know you said tape is your resume.

719
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Speaker 9: So my question is a lot gets made to some

720
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Speaker 9: of these young guys that really flash in the preseason.

721
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Speaker 9: Just how do you weigh these preseason games into the calculations,

722
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Speaker 9: if you will, when you're making some of these tough

723
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Speaker 9: roster decisions. Do we in the media, do fans make

724
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 9: too much of some of these big performances we see

725
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Speaker 9: or just what's your take on that.

726
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question. Really, you have to take

727
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 6: everything into account. It's really a global evaluation. That's how

728
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: they are in our meeting rooms, it's how they are

729
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 6: in the weight room, it's what they do in the

730
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Speaker 6: practice field, and certainly game field. I mean that's the

731
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Speaker 6: lights are on and you're that's a great opportunity to

732
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Speaker 6: see the guys in that setting. Having said that, you

733
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Speaker 6: really do have to take everything into account. You know,

734
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 6: think about a defensive end rushing against a tackle, you

735
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Speaker 6: know what, what's the talent just difference between those two

736
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Speaker 6: guys as you make your evaluation. So that's really something

737
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Speaker 6: that we're constantly looking at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering, I'll finish strong here, just wondering

739
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Speaker 4: how you how you feel about Jadevian Clowney. He has

740
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Speaker 4: agreed to terms with the with the Ravens, and you know,

741
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Speaker 4: if it all goes as planned, he will be there

742
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Speaker 4: playing against you guys in week four. So how do

743
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Speaker 4: you feel about facing Jadevian? What do you think he'll

744
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: be able.

745
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Speaker 5: To do for them?

746
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, obviously, Mary Kay, I wish any of

747
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 6: our former players luck, but beyond that, you know, I'm.

748
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Speaker 2: Not going to come in all right, there you go,

749
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Speaker 2: Coach Tafanski at the podium, steadfast and the support of

750
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Speaker 2: CADE York. And we've got one preseason game left. It

751
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: is a week from tomorrow in Kansas City, YEP against

752
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. So we'll well, we will see what the

753
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: week ahead brings. But that's where you stand, coming out

754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: of the tie late last night as it were in Philly.

755
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're gonna go through the fifty three

756
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Speaker 2: a little bit and some of the guys who are

757
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Speaker 2: in that last group of guys here and there, and

758
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Speaker 2: what the numbers could look like. That's coming up next,

759
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,839
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in. Let's do the depth chart exercise.

765
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that. I think too though, I think

766
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Speaker 3: it'd be fun to do, uh, the Uno exercise because

767
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Speaker 3: we got well.

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Speaker 2: Do we have do we have enough time for all that?

769
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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll have enough time, Beth and

770
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Speaker 2: beyond and home depot.

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Speaker 3: You want to push the uh, yeah, we can do

772
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Speaker 3: a little.

773
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Speaker 2: That in two o'clock, you know, Let's do the Uno

774
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: exercise and then we'll do the depth chart like.

775
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: We could do UNO because Uno has at two o'clock

776
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: at what right now, he's got a grade for each

777
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 3: offensive position group. So we could just do the offense

778
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Speaker 3: and then our look at the offense. But we need

779
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Speaker 3: to lose fifty three kind of in totality because that's

780
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Speaker 3: where the versions are gonna make.

781
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so do you want to do that?

782
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: Why don't we do the offense and defensive grades right now,

783
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: and then the position and then.

784
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: We'll do everything breakdown at fifteen thirty. Let's start offensively. Well,

785
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: we got mail bag. I'm not giving up a mail bag, okay,

786
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: all right, I damned if I'm gonna give the quality.

787
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Speaker 3: Of Bobby, I'll do it in fifteen minutes.

788
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Speaker 2: Hey Bobby, Hey bobbe quarterback grade.

789
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Speaker 3: I think that's us. I think a solid A. I

790
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: liked what I saw from the quarterbacks, and frankly, you know,

791
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: dtr deserved to have many many more points on the

792
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: board than he got. He was on pace to throw

793
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Speaker 3: for three hundred and twenty eight yards and rush for

794
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: another thirty six. He made some big time throws, comfortable

795
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: in the pocket. He just has that it factor, the blocks,

796
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 3: all of it. You know, if you score that first

797
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: drive instead of the safety only at net five, but

798
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: the Browns would have had you know, seven that thirteen

799
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: in the first half, you'd have been feeling really good

800
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: about that. And then Kellen Mond again he was victimized

801
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: by some drops. I think Hassan Hall had three, which

802
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: you gotta clean that up you're trying to make.

803
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: A football teams.

804
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: He missed a couple of open throws, but he also

805
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: made some nice throws and did made some good decisions

806
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: from the pocket. He throws for one hundred and twenty

807
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: six in a touchdown. I thought the play that he

808
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: was like Harry Houdini. He was touched by five different

809
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: rate Eagles, and it looked like at one point he

810
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: was gonna be sacked for a safety and he gets

811
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: out and makes a first down out of it. Was

812
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: an incredible effort by him. So yeah, I thought for

813
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: what those guys wanted to do. And let me remind folks,

814
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: dtr was not out there playing against Jabroni's oh nod.

815
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: Their starting defensive line was Nolan Smith first rounder, Jordan

816
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: Davis first rounder, Jalen Carter first rounder, and Derek Barnett

817
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: also was a first rounder in twenty seventeen. They're playing

818
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: ni Kobe was in their linebacker, Their starters were in

819
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: at linebacker, their starters were in everywhere but corner, and

820
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: no blanket ship at safety. But like they're playing Zach

821
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: Cunningham who led the league in tackles of one hundred

822
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: and sixty three and twenty twenty and there was three

823
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: hundred tackle seasons. Miles Jack was playing at the end

824
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: of the game. He has three straight hundred tackle seasons.

825
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: And then they brought in the guy Moro from I

826
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: think the Bears, who had one hundred and twenty tackles

827
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Speaker 3: last year. These guys are all playing in the second

828
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Speaker 3: half of a preseason game. Yeah, which was well it

829
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: was their second they were selected and I guess you

830
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: didn't play, but boy they had there was when DJ

831
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: was out there that was a there's four first rounders

832
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Speaker 3: on the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's not a joke, No, And it was that.

834
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about that yesday. Like, I don't feel like

835
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: all the coaching staffs know exactly how to handle this

836
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: preseason yet they're kind of all figuring it out kind

837
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: of game by game. Usually you'd have like, Okay, this

838
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: is how we're gonna do it. You're gonna do the

839
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: same thing. They're different teams doing different things in every game.

840
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Speaker 3: Just don't absolutely but quarterback, say, let.

841
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: Me say this about Dtrye. The optimistic thing coming into

842
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: camp was and we saw some flashes like you know,

843
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: rookie mini camp and all of those things. The optimistic

844
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: thing was long term back up to Deshaun Watson. Is

845
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: it an overstatement to say that that has for me,

846
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: not not necessarily here, but I think he's a I

847
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: think he can be a starter in this league. Is

848
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: that too much? No?

849
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: I think so too. And I am I guarantee you

850
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: right now if you took a pull of the players

851
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: in the locker room. They would say the same thing.

852
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so I sometimes you don't want to overreact to

853
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: what you see, but like we've seen practice, we've seen games. Like,

854
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: to me, he looks like he could be a starter

855
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: in the league.

856
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, one hundred percent. He's got that in fact

857
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: or the intangible, the leadership, the confidence, the swag, all

858
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: of it. He's been phenomenal. I am I've been from

859
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: day one. No, I am a Pack twelve guy after all,

860
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: big DTR fan, and I thought I felt that the

861
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: first time I interviewed him, like this guy has something,

862
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: some juice. He's got some juice. And I remember watching

863
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 3: him and actually watching highlights, you know, of him play

864
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: and he was electric. He's really refined his game as

865
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Speaker 3: a passer. He's so comfortable in the pocket. He had

866
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Speaker 3: a two play sequence one where was early in the

867
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Speaker 3: game and he stood in the pocket and he kind

868
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Speaker 3: of batted it like three times and then just kind

869
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: of made a wild throw at the last second. And

870
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: the second time that happened, and I sat on the broadcast,

871
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: you know that's that internal clock if you bat it

872
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: a couple of times, it's not there. Just you have

873
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: the athleticism, just put it down and go. You know,

874
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: you went through three progressions, go ahead and take off.

875
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: And then the second time he did that and picked

876
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: up like eight yards right up the middle on a

877
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: first down, and I'm like, that's a perfect way. That's great.

878
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: You see that end game of progression from him. I am, Yeah,

879
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: he's somebody that Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me at all

880
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: if we get some calls about him. I don't think

881
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: that they would let him go unless it was a haul,

882
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: because you you are going to need a backup quarterback

883
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: to Shaun Watson on a rookie contract so that you

884
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: were able to do other things on this roster, and

885
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: now you've got that. Yep, So it would have to

886
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: be really compelling. But I'll tell you what, And maybe

887
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: this is me just being a homer or wearing orange

888
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: amount glasses, but I'm pretty sure the Falcons would feel

889
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: a lot different about things if they had him versus

890
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 3: Desmond Redder.

891
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

892
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that's I don't think that's

893
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: a crazy thing to say. No, I don't know it

894
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: sounds crazy right now. No, actually, it doesn't sound crazy.

895
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 3: It just no, he would have sounded crazy.

896
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: He's good, he's good, all right running back.

897
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to give that a C minus. You can't

898
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: fumble the one yard line and then John Kelly that

899
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: that's reflective of the group. Hassan Hall had the three

900
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: drops in the passing game, which you cannot have. So no,

901
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: how that being said, dimitric again, good vision, some shiftiness

902
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: in those jump cuts. Seven carries for thirty six yards.

903
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy all of his None of his stuff works

904
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: when he's punt returning those jump cuts and trying to

905
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: move back in reverse field. None of it works when

906
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: he's punk returning, but it works when he's a running back.

907
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: So he averaged five yards carries average five yards cary

908
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: for the preseason. He did not hold up well in

909
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: pass protection, though, and that was readily apparent on a

910
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: couple of plays. So yeah, I think that's about right.

911
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: Jordan Wilkins was the guy that I'm the most excited

912
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: about on our roster currently, and we saw him in

913
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: very limited action. Three carries for eighteen yards, looked powerful,

914
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: caught his only target for another eight yards. But yeah,

915
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: I'd say CEC minors can't fumble. That's two weeks in

916
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: a row of the running back position has turned the

917
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: football over.

918
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Can't have that wide receiver.

919
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: Ay, hey, Tilman, the guys that you wanted to see,

920
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: and for me, those two guys were Tilman and Austin Watkins.

921
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: They delivered Tilman two catches fifty yards, Austin Watkins seven

922
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: for one thirty nine and a touchdown. He did have

923
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: the one drop and he was so furious about it.

924
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: But this guy was out there putting in work. Still

925
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: averaged ten yards of target in this game. They caught

926
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: seven of his fourteen targets. I loved what I saw

927
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: from him, but you know that's what's going to carry

928
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: the A Schwartz not a great game. He had again,

929
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: some drops. He only got four of us ten targets.

930
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: David Bell, I just don't know, man, I just I

931
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: just know there's not a lot of juice there, unfortunately.

932
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: And it's wild because he did it against good competition

933
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: at Ohio State.

934
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy. So I say when he's a Purdue, Yeah.

935
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm sorry. Yes, against Ohio State,

936
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: against Michigan, against Michigan State, Penn State, all of them,

937
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: all the good games, he put up big, big numbers,

938
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: and it's just.

939
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: Like I just maybe it's just that extra step, half

940
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: step faster.

941
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: But he would run away from people. Know we'd have

942
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: ten for two forty two touchdowns and games crazy, So

943
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, and you know, we'll get into the

944
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: roster and with the implications of that in a second.

945
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: But no, I'd give that group an a because Cedric

946
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: Tillman is really the one guy you're looking at who

947
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: has a chance to impact you this year. And you

948
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 3: saw him have another nice game. And then Austin Watkins

949
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: is He's the story of camp, right is he the

950
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: story of the preseason on the offensive side of the ball,

951
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 3: him DTR and Austin Watkins. And it started, ironically enough,

952
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: it was DTR to Austin Watkins in his first team

953
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: period at the Greenbrier. That was a forty yard touchdown

954
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: that really got both I'm like.

955
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, this from NFL Draft scout Matt Miller.

956
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: Right now, we've had him on the show from ESPN.

957
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: How good did Dorian Thompson Robinson look last night? Rewatching today?

958
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: And he's making plays? Yep, yeah, he is. He's very

959
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: good tight ends incomplete.

960
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, there's nothing there. I mean, you know, they

961
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: had only I think two catches on the day Forrestall

962
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: one for nine, Zya Mitchell Payton one for two, and

963
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: they got blown up in the blocking him a couple

964
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: times maybe in aded. Just kind of non factors.

965
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Offensive line solid again.

966
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: I'll give offensive line a good a again, because you

967
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: have forty nine passes you give up one sack. I

968
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 3: thought our quarterbacks did a good job navigating the pocket

969
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: under when there was some pressure. But I thought, overall,

970
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 3: you're looking at this team and you're saying, okay, Dwan

971
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: Jones was out there stonewalling and working against a first

972
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: round pick in Nolan Smith from Georgia, who that's an

973
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: interesting matchup for him, right, He's got the size and

974
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: the strength, but Nolan Smith's got the speed and he

975
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 3: only got around the edge on him one time once

976
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: and it would didn't lead to a sack. Dtr was

977
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: able to step up and get out of that. But

978
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: I thought he played well. I think you look at

979
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: your overall kind of you know, the blocking for the team.

980
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: Wes Martin had another good game. Tyrone Wheatley Junior, and

981
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: that's the guy who could be some trade bait. They

982
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: gi him fifty seven snaps in this one. They were

983
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: putting that tape out there for a reason. I thought

984
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: he was especially good in the run game. Whenever they

985
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: ran to his side. He played on both sides of

986
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: the ball. Luke Whipler continues to impress, Michael Dunn was

987
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: very good. It's a solid line. It's a solid line.

988
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: But the guys you wanted to see, Dwan Jones killed it.

989
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Luke Whippler killed it. You know, Wes Martin, he's a

990
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: valuable kind of backup for you on the interior of

991
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: Drew Forbes isn't ready Michael done the same thing. They

992
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: both played well, So all in all, it was very good.

993
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: And then, as I said, Tyron Wheatley continues to play

994
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: at a high level and is something I think he

995
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: is somebody that doesn't there's not a spot for him

996
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: on our fifty three. Like the other guys. You could

997
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: make the case, well, maybe you know, Wes Martin beats

998
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: out done because Forbes can't go or Forbes goes and

999
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: and they one of those guys ends up on the

1000
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: practice squad. And that's the thing with that group. When

1001
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: we talk about the roster in a second. You know,

1002
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: the chances that you'll be able to get you know,

1003
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: one of those guys to your practice squad feels good,

1004
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: So maybe go with nine offensive linemen. Keep the two centers.

1005
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: Don't necessarily keep a guard on the fifty three, but

1006
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: you have one that is elevated every week off the

1007
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: practice squad for you, and you're able to kind of

1008
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: have your guard that way. So we'll talk about that

1009
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: in the roster. But yeah, i'd say an A for

1010
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 3: the offensive line. I think the guys that you wanted

1011
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: to see continue to look in. You know, it's crazy that,

1012
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, we signed Jack Conklin to that extension at

1013
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: the end of last year. But like right now, if

1014
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: you said to me, we have to go in the

1015
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: season with Dwan Jones playing right tacklem.

1016
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Like good, fine, yeah, yeah.

1017
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: That's how good he's in it. That's how good he's been.

1018
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: Defensive line, the D line in this one, you had

1019
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: Maurice Hurst, he got a sack. The Browns end up

1020
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 3: with five sacks. This when a couple of them off

1021
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: of blitzes. But Maurice Hurst had a sack. Lonnie Phelps

1022
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: had a sack. You had. Jeremiah Martin got a half

1023
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: a sack for the second straight week, so good for him.

1024
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: Excites se that Chuck Wiley got a sack, Tommy Togi

1025
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: I had a sack for the Cleveland Browns, so we

1026
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: actually had six sacks as a team. I was excited

1027
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: for that. And I think Maurice Hurst has, you know,

1028
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: shown form especially the last two weeks, that say he

1029
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: probably should be on this roster. Togy is having the

1030
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: best offseason of his of his career, and maybe he's

1031
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: a guy.

1032
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: That thought there was no chance at the start of

1033
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: camp or it.

1034
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: Still feels slim. Yeah, but it feels like he has

1035
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: a chance to stay in the program and he's definitely

1036
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: making him think about what he's done. So I thought

1037
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: it was good. At the end of the game, you know,

1038
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: we saw also got to see for the first time

1039
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: as a Brown Shelby Harris played some snaps. Looked good

1040
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 3: out there. Overall, I thought they they did a solid job.

1041
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: Solid job. There's some at the end when it was

1042
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: down to Tristan Hill was in there with TOGYI times

1043
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: they got pushed around in the run game late, but

1044
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: in terms of the ability to get after the quarterback.

1045
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: I thought that the defensive line was solid. Solid.

1046
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: Linebacker Room, I'm gonna give him a B.

1047
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: Actually, Linebacker Room's gonna get an A on the on

1048
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: the heels of Diabode because I thought the d line

1049
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 3: looks great. Sex you can give m a B plus.

1050
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: Give a B plus, yere right now, give him a plus. Yeah, Diabata.

1051
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: When you when you're directly responsal for two points, yeah yeah,

1052
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: get that. Uh, when you have a responsble for two points,

1053
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: your fumble then leads directly to another three points. So

1054
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: five points right there from Diabate. I loved what I

1055
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: saw from him, the eight tackles flying all over. It's

1056
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: fun to watch. Charlie Thomas's running buddy.

1057
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1058
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: He had a pass break up at the goal line

1059
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: that if he didn't get his hands on the ball

1060
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 3: would have been a touchdown. So good job by him.

1061
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: Tony Field's played well.

1062
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1063
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: I like that group a lot. A for them. Corners, Uh,

1064
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: up and down a little bit from the corners. I

1065
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: thought some very good plays and some good coverage. I

1066
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: liked what I saw from cam Mitchell. I liked what

1067
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: I saw from Biggers. I thought Chris Westry had a

1068
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: little bit of a tough day out there, and then

1069
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: you know you had the injuries. Mike Ford goes in,

1070
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: Lorenzo Burns goes in. So a solid B. It's when

1071
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: when Jim Schwartz has dialed up though a corner blitz,

1072
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: we've gotten home. Bigger's had a half of a sack

1073
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: in this one. And then Tanner McAllister at safety had

1074
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 3: a very nice game. He had a sack as well.

1075
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: So last week it was Mike Ford and this week

1076
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: you get Biggers in there on that kind of that

1077
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: nickel blitz and it worked very effectively.

1078
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: Safeties in the back end.

1079
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: For the safeties, you know, Hickman gets interceptions, so that

1080
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: already bumps the great up. And I thought Tanner mcowsor

1081
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 3: had a really nice game, the former Buckeye corner. There's

1082
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: one play where he was in coverage and he was

1083
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: sticky to the opponent and you love to see that.

1084
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: So I think Calsterer played basically the whole game. The

1085
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: Anthony Bell had a solid game, certainly involved in the tackling,

1086
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: and then Hickman had the pick for you. So I'll

1087
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: give them a solid B plus as well.

1088
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: Uh kickers, punters, we did kickers already off the top.

1089
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: This special not right.

1090
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say bub is not pleased with what's got

1091
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: going on.

1092
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: No, well, nothing in the return game at all. We

1093
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: had five yards on three punt returns.

1094
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: Uh.

1095
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: We know the field goal wolves we talked about, but

1096
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: jork haz In this one didn't hit the ball as

1097
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: well as normal. But when he's long punting, he's so elite.

1098
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: He seleveraged fift twenty yards of a punt. I want

1099
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: to see the ones where he's kind of just pooching it.

1100
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: He had one that went in the end zone for

1101
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: a touchback. Yet another one that he missed short and

1102
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: fortunately bounced to like the nineteen so it count inside

1103
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: twenty and none. The other was a good one to

1104
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: the ten yard line. But I want to see a

1105
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 3: little more precision on those short ones when he gets

1106
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: to air it out. I mean it's it's like an

1107
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: automatic sixty yards and it's towards the sideline. Yeah, he's incredibazing.

1108
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: He's been a real weapon. He's been Charlie. You gotta

1109
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: give Charlie Hewlett bumps their great up because he was

1110
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: out there covered and popped the ball loose.

1111
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: So good job, Charlie, A right good job to you

1112
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: on all of that. Those are the grades. We'll go

1113
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: over the depth chart a little bit later. General Manager

1114
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: Assistant General Manager Katherine Rache will join us. Coming up

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Speaker 3: Very happy we joined now by Brown's assistant GM Katherine

1129
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: Race and Catherine forself. Great to see you. Last time

1130
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: I think we talked was Combine or around there kind

1131
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: of how's everything flowed for you? You know, from that time

1132
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: to where we sit here today.

1133
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 11: Well, great to see you as well, Very excited to

1134
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 11: be to be talking to you today. Things have just

1135
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 11: been crazy, but in a good way. I mean, we

1136
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 11: talked that combine, we had the draft. Obviously, we've had

1137
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 11: some coaching changes too along the way, so bringing on

1138
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 11: Jim Bubba. So there's has been a lot of really

1139
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 11: key off season acquisition that led us to this point.

1140
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 11: And now we've just been in training camp mode. So

1141
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 11: really from our off season program to the Greenbrier now

1142
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 11: here to Philly playing in Kenton in the meantime, it's

1143
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 11: just been a lot of moving parts, but the team

1144
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 11: has adjusted super well and there's really like a strong

1145
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 11: bond that's being formed. So I think that's critical for

1146
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 11: the for the upcoming season.

1147
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: Well you mentioned the Grain Brier and then he said,

1148
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: and now we're back in Philly. Well, you truly are

1149
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: back in Philly. How's it been. How's it been coming

1150
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: back for you?

1151
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 11: It's been It's been awesome. They have a core, a

1152
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 11: great core group of people obviously, like it just feels

1153
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 11: like my second football family. So being back, I just

1154
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 11: thought it was a great experience for our team as well.

1155
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 11: They have a really, really solid roster. So for our

1156
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 11: team to be able to compete in those settings, not

1157
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 11: just a night, but throughout the week. I thought it

1158
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 11: was a great opportunity and it's just been great. It

1159
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 11: didn't feel like I was a way, to be honest

1160
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 11: with you, I just felt like I was coming back

1161
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 11: to a place I'm pretty used to. So it was

1162
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 11: good to see everybody.

1163
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: When you think about, you know, the joint practice we

1164
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: had with the Eagles last year, and I think everybody

1165
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: kind of came out of that being like, well, the

1166
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: Eagles are pretty good, and everybody in affiliate at the

1167
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: time was like, well, Jalen Hurts can keep going, we

1168
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: can be really it. Well guess what he did. They

1169
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: went to the super Bowl. But it was kind of

1170
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: clear their roster was maybe a little bit more physical,

1171
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: a little bigger, a little bit maybe more advanced than ours.

1172
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 3: And it felt like you guys went out this off

1173
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: season and really tried to address a lot of that,

1174
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 3: especially along the defensive front. And I would say, just

1175
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: from watching that you're smiling already. You could see the

1176
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: difference in one year. Was that something that you looked at,

1177
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: maybe not as a barometer or a measuring stick, but

1178
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 3: just it's a good apples to apples comparison of where

1179
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: we've come in a year.

1180
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 11: I mean, getting strong in the trenches is always something

1181
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 11: that Andrews looking to do, so that was definitely a

1182
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 11: core focus of ours entering this off season. So really

1183
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 11: to be able to see these players we've added to

1184
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 11: the defensive line really like in full action against one

1185
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 11: of the best offensive line in the National Football League

1186
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 11: was actually really great. It was a great opportunity for

1187
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 11: our starters to get some competitive reps against an opponent,

1188
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 11: So definitely something that we're excited about entering the regular season.

1189
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 11: And then just you know, seeing all of our other

1190
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 11: young players. I mean, they have an excellent receiving corps.

1191
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 11: They've got speed, whether it's Quiz and AJ, so like

1192
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 11: seeing our dbs compete with that, seeing Denzel like you know,

1193
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 11: making those plays on the balls, like it was just

1194
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 11: great overall to really put our players in competitive settings

1195
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 11: against a really really good roster. So very very very

1196
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 11: excited for the week and how everything kind of went down.

1197
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: I was able I've known some people kind of who

1198
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: either have covered the Eagles or and was able to

1199
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: talk to them and then get kind of there like

1200
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: and they're, oh, yeah, this is very different for us

1201
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: this year. For you and Andrew, you guys will work there,

1202
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: you will get I would imagine, the truth from the

1203
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: people in their front office. So that's probably got to

1204
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: be an interesting feedback in the sense that for the Browns,

1205
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: we can look through it through our eyes, we can

1206
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: watch our tape and talk to our coaches, but then

1207
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: you actually have another front office who's all watching it

1208
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 3: that you're very close with, that's given you their take

1209
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: on everything. Was that And I know you won't share that,

1210
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: and I'm not asking you too, but I'm saying, was

1211
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: that interesting, valuable, fun, all of the above?

1212
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think one of the key things for us

1213
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 11: is we want to stay humble. So however we feel

1214
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 11: like we came out out of this week, I just

1215
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 11: think we got to stay grounded. And I think Kevin

1216
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 11: does such a great job as keeping the team like, hey,

1217
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 11: let's stay where our feet are at and let's not

1218
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 11: get too excited or too happy now I won't lie like.

1219
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 11: It was a great feeling to see some of my

1220
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 11: peers be like, ooh, you guys, you Delon gave some

1221
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 11: work through oh on, huh, Like eleven sacks that first practice. Okay,

1222
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 11: you know, so this is definitely good and good to see,

1223
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 11: but now we still got a lot of work to do.

1224
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 11: Kevin says it all the time, like we're not football

1225
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 11: ready yet, and everybody knows and we're all focused on

1226
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 11: the same thing is to be ready for the Cincinnati

1227
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 11: Bengals Week one, and that doesn't change, you know, whether

1228
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 11: it goes well or not. We've had bumps in the road,

1229
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 11: and I think I think those are good, Like, I

1230
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 11: think those are things that keep the team grounded and

1231
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 11: really focusing on taking one day at a time, one

1232
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 11: step at a time, and this was just another good

1233
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 11: test in our entire off season, you know, So just

1234
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 11: continue to like building our foundation and adding the block

1235
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 11: slowly but surely, I think is the key.

1236
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: I like what you said there about staying around it.

1237
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: And I know that a lot was made of how

1238
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 3: the second day's practice ended, that little one teeny period,

1239
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: and obviously you would have maybe said in the moment,

1240
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: I liked it to go a different way. I took

1241
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 3: a tack or a thought about it, and I've talked

1242
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: with Joe Thomas about it, and I said I kind

1243
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: of liked the way that it ended, because some of

1244
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: our guys were pissed off at the end, and so

1245
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 3: you could have come here and been like, all those

1246
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: things right, we can match up with them. This is

1247
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 3: the best in the NFC. We were there, and then

1248
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: they flex a little bit at the end, and you say, Okay,

1249
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: we still have work to do, and we know this

1250
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: team's gonna be judged on everything that happened September tenth.

1251
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: Then after nothing that happens in August knock on wood

1252
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: for health reasons, you know. But I kind of liked that,

1253
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: and you could tell some of the guys, especially some

1254
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: of the veteran and the studs that have been brought in,

1255
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: were like, I don't know, this isn't okay. We can't

1256
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: let that happen.

1257
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 11: That's right, that's right. And I think Phillies are really

1258
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 11: good football team. They're really well coached, they're well managed.

1259
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 11: So they didn't like how they came out the first

1260
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 11: day and they came out they two be like, we're

1261
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 11: not gonna let that happen to us again. And then

1262
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 11: we had that red zone period you're referencing to where

1263
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 11: we could have, you know, done better, and there's things

1264
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 11: to improve. So I think for our guys, it's again

1265
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 11: like let's go back to the fundamentals. Let's go back

1266
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 11: to you know, the drawing board, and does just make

1267
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 11: sure that we're tight and we haven't arrived yet. And

1268
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 11: that's never That's never Kevin's message. It's not Andrew's message

1269
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 11: on the personnel side either, So it's just always finding

1270
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 11: opportunities to get better and improve ourselves, both on and

1271
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 11: off the field, you know. So I think I think

1272
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 11: it's overall super positive experience. I'm looking forward to tonight

1273
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 11: because a lot of the young players are going to play,

1274
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 11: so it's going to be another great evaluation opportunity for us.

1275
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: We're talked about the young guys second, but I just

1276
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 3: want to know where any jokes made, like how did

1277
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: you guys get zendarious? This is this is not.

1278
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, maybe not like that, but definitely one of

1279
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 11: my former colleague, who's the outside lineberger linebacker coach, was like,

1280
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 11: he looks good. He looks almost like a detackle. Like

1281
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 11: all the guys were really impressed on how good he looks,

1282
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 11: and you know, they were just like that was a

1283
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 11: great find. So we're very excited to have Zidarius.

1284
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: All right, you mentioned the young guys this draft class

1285
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: so far. Again it's preseason, but you guys have to

1286
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: be very pleasing, and you don't start off with the

1287
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: first round pick. You trade the second round pick for Elijah,

1288
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: and then the third round back that becomes Ceda Tilman,

1289
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: your first of the two third rounders. This has been

1290
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: a fun group to watch, and we'll start with our

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Speaker 3: young quarterback, dor In Thompson Robinson, who gets to start tonight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what a start to his career, so productive

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Speaker 3: at UCLA, but he looks just ready. Yep.

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Speaker 11: I think like some of the things I stood out

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Speaker 11: with Dorian is obviously his playmaking ability. He can make

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Speaker 11: plays both with his arm with his legs, but also

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Speaker 11: it's been like his work ethic and attention to details,

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Speaker 11: Like if you watch him in practice, he's taking every

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Speaker 11: single mental reps. When he's not taking physical reps, he's

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Speaker 11: out there. He's a sponge. He wants to learn. He's

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Speaker 11: got great guys to learn from in that room. So

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Speaker 11: I think that's been really key and really amazing to

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Speaker 11: see bringing him on board. And then you've mentioned Cedric,

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Speaker 11: I mean, the one all these guys have really just

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Speaker 11: made the most of their opportunities so far and have

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Speaker 11: really been fully invested in really using all of the

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Speaker 11: resources that are at their disposition to really get better.

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Speaker 11: And it's just been tremendous to see them work with

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Speaker 11: their peers and their coaches.

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Speaker 3: Da Wan's done a great job. He stands out. Got

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Speaker 3: some of those first team reps going against Brandon Graham.

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Speaker 3: I mean that kind of experience, you can't buy that,

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Speaker 3: and he was getting it in those practices and more

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Speaker 3: than held his own. A couple of other young Ohio

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Speaker 3: State guys who are in real battles for either you know,

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Speaker 3: a spot on this roster, you know, a role on

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Speaker 3: this roster even potentially Luke Whippler at center, and then

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Speaker 3: Ronnie Hickman Rocket who had the two picks last week.

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Speaker 3: Those are two guys who have really kind of stood

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Speaker 3: out as well, Loop being a later round pick and

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Speaker 3: then Ronnie be an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's all the things we have to take into consideration.

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Speaker 11: Like when it gets to roster cut down day, there's

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Speaker 11: multiple things you think about, Like, Yeah, you're thinking about

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Speaker 11: what they've done the preseason, your evaluation of them, but

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Speaker 11: you're also thinking about the odds of retaining them if

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Speaker 11: you were to waive them and then trying to bring

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Speaker 11: back on practice squad, what are the odds that a

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Speaker 11: club may claim them. So thinking, we really like Andrew

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Speaker 11: does a really good job of thinking about it holistically

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Speaker 11: and really making sure that in our strategy we take

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Speaker 11: all of these pieces into account. Especially when these young

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Speaker 11: guys perform as well as they did, we have to

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Speaker 11: think about it and in the way we strategize and

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Speaker 11: build a roster.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be tough decisions this year, and that's what

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Speaker 3: you want. I mean, it is your sat at tarbor.

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Speaker 3: That means maybe you have more than fifty three guys,

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Speaker 3: which is where you want to be.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, like I was thinking about it, not as far

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Speaker 11: as this morning, just being like wow, like even building

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Speaker 11: your practice squad, there's gonna be a lot of tough

1343
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Speaker 11: decision We have depth on multiple spots. You think of,

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Speaker 11: like the young guys we had on the interior defensive line, Like,

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Speaker 11: there's so much talent and so many, so much tools

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Speaker 11: to develop. So you're thinking like, we're gonna have to

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Speaker 11: make all these decisions, and quite frankly, it's a good

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Speaker 11: problem to have. The fact that we're gonna have to

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Speaker 11: make tough decisions, it means that we did a good

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Speaker 11: job in the off season acquiring those pieces.

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Speaker 3: The certainly did all right last one. What's if you're

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Speaker 3: telling people at home, maybe something not someone, but maybe

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Speaker 3: something to watch night, a position group, something that you're

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Speaker 3: excited to see with these young guys out there.

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Speaker 11: I think like it's, as you said, Dorin's going to

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Speaker 11: get the starts. It's going to be really great to

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Speaker 11: see him there. See how our number two, three, and

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Speaker 11: even four on the offensive line protect him, our offensive

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Speaker 11: weapons that are going to be out there. I think

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Speaker 11: there's still some battles there to try to really figure out,

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Speaker 11: like who are going to be the fifth and sixth spot,

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Speaker 11: and then just really seeing the playmakers on defense, like

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Speaker 11: really constantly putting pressure on Phillies quarterback and just trying

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Speaker 11: to get the ball, just try to get the ball back.

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Speaker 11: So I think, like I'm answering your question very vaguely here,

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Speaker 11: but it's really because there's just so many different battles

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Speaker 11: and different different so many young players that we're looking

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Speaker 11: forward to see in action, and I think against Philly's

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Speaker 11: depth today is going to be a great, great test.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun. And these are

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Speaker 3: one of those games with their depth, and you pointed

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Speaker 3: out right where you're watching our guys, but you're also

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Speaker 3: watching to see who's going to be available around the league,

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Speaker 3: especially on a roster as loaded as them, So a

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Speaker 3: lot of reasons that tune in tonight. Catherine, thanks so

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Speaker 3: much for the time.

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Speaker 11: Best of luck than you h.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff there was Zee and Catherine rach our assistant

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Speaker 2: general manager, remembers at a mail bag Friday edition tweet

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Speaker 2: we'll play a little bit of roster numbers game. You're

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Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's take a look at some of

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Speaker 2: the numbers we're gonna be dealing with. We are a

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Speaker 2: week from the final week and a day from the

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Speaker 2: final preseason game. A you're on at Kansas City. Let's

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Speaker 2: let's do a little of the numbers game here, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna do this, and then i'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you. I'm gonna give you an initial number, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll get to the pressure points, and then I'll

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Speaker 2: just tell you if like, I think this is like

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Speaker 2: locked like in stone, not necessarily.

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Speaker 3: The number, but the player.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it all right. Three quarterbacks and I think

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Speaker 3: it's all locked in Stone, Watson, Dobbs, dtr three running

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: backs Nick Chubb Ford are locked. The third I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, and I'm not sure they're.

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Speaker 2: Here, but three is the number.

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Speaker 3: Three is the number, yep. Three tight ends Nadjoku, Aikens,

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Speaker 3: and then Harris and Brian I think are all locks.

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: I just I don't know what's going on with Harrison Bryant.

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01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: We haven't got any updates in a while, so I

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: have a question marked by his name. But I think

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Speaker 3: if he's able to play, he would be the third lock.

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Speaker 2: He'd be the third lock. Yep, all right, wide receiver, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, we're going to come back to this, but I'm

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01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: going to give you four locks right now. Cooper, DPJ,

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: Elijah More, Ceder Tillman, and I would say, Mark, he's

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Speaker 3: Goodwin is if he's able, would be a one hundred

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: percent lock. But all right now we don't know.

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in terms of pure locks known Amari said

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Speaker 2: DPJ and.

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Speaker 3: Elijah and Elijah, Okay, offensive line, Will's Botonio Posik, Teller, Conklin,

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones, James Hudson, Nick Harris, Luke Whipler. I think

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: right now you could make the case that those nine

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Speaker 3: are locks. That's probably a bit aggressive with the Harris

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Speaker 3: Ann Whipler, but right now that's kind of what I

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm at right now. So nine locks. Will

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 3: come back to this position again. So right now you

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: have nine locks there, four locks here. So if you

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Speaker 3: look at locks on the offensive side, you've got three six, nine,

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Speaker 3: thirteen twenty two locks. Okay, defensively, what you're doing, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna leave a little opening here. Five defensive ends that

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Speaker 3: I think are all locks. Miles Garrett, Zadarius Smith, Obo Okoronquo,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Maguire, Alex right.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Four defensive tackles. I think three are locks Dalvin Tomlinson,

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Speaker 3: Shelby Harris, Siaki Eka. I think there will be a

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Speaker 3: fourth and we'll get to my guests in a second.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: But we're three locks there. Linebacker locks j Oka Kunashik

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave two locks for now. Whoa lock? Locks

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: we haven't see.

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Speaker 2: We have got to see these guys play a walk

1443
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: and talk.

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Speaker 3: I think their locks, but like they're coming off of

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: significant injuries and we have not seen them play. I'll

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: put them fine, you can you convince it with that look?

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Speaker 3: You get with four locks for now, but we got

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Speaker 3: to see them play. Cornerback, I think you've got five locks,

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: Denzel MJ Newsome, AJ Green, Cam Mitchell, all right, and

1450
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Speaker 3: then we'll come back to that. And then safety, I

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: think you've got four locks, which would be Thornhill, Delpit,

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: McLoud and d Anthony Bell for what he does on

1453
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Speaker 3: special teams. So we'll come back to that.

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Speaker 2: So now you're you're at fifteen, you're at twenty three locks. Defensively, Okay,

1455
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: you've got three locks. On special teams. Yep.

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Speaker 3: So we're at forty five, so there are five spots

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Speaker 3: up for grabs. We're at forty eight, right, yeah, well yeah,

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Speaker 3: five five spots of five, yeah, forty I'm looking to

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Speaker 3: have the of the fifty like, yeah, NONSPO specialists for

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01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: it either way the mess yep. Okay, so where do

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Speaker 3: those come from? Now? We know for sure you're going

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Speaker 3: to carry five receivers. So if Marquise Goodwin is in,

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Speaker 3: Marquise Goodwin, I think is five, and then sixth becomes

1464
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Speaker 3: one of David Bell, Austin Watkins or Jaqem Grant. Now

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Speaker 3: we haven't seen Jaqem Grant also coming off of a

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Speaker 3: major injury, and is does he do enough as a

1467
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Speaker 3: returner faith that he can be that they would have

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01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: had to have seen it. Seen some inclination though, right,

1469
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: but you never do anything full speed in practice. Total,

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Speaker 3: So if Marquise Goodwin's in, it's Goodwin and then one

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Speaker 3: of those three now six total, that sixth person has

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Speaker 3: to do something for you on special teams. David Bell

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Speaker 3: does not, Watkins does Jackiem Grant? Obviously would It'd.

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Speaker 2: Be hard for me to. I know this is crazy

1475
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: because we drafted Bell, we drafted Schwartz, but like Schwartz,

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: she's gone over with Watkins. I don't see any scenario

1477
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: how Watkins isn't I mean he, I mean just the

1478
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: body type, what you've seen on tape, the special team's ability,

1479
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: he's been.

1480
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Speaker 3: He's done everything that he can do.

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01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: You don't think he gets he can't et the practice squad, Kenny,

1482
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: you never know, you never know, you never know. We

1483
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: fall in love with stuff in the preseason.

1484
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: Something I remember case and Williams was so dominant seat

1485
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: and then we had to have him and then like

1486
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: he's never been anything in the league. Austin Watkins though

1487
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 3: the route ring that we catch, there's a lot to like.

1488
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: I think he's done everything he can if there's a

1489
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 3: spot for him, you know, right now, if it was

1490
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 3: down to Austin Watkins and David Bell, like without David

1491
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Speaker 3: Bell having been a draft pick, I think it's clearly

1492
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: Austin Allians. Yeah, but being a draft pick does matter.

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Speaker 3: I just I think the question is does he have

1494
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: the juice? And I think the answer is we don't know.

1495
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: If Marquise Goodwin is in it's those five plus one

1496
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: more so, I think we'll end up at six receivers,

1497
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Speaker 3: so that puts us back up to twenty four locks

1498
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the.

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Speaker 2: Ball, twenty two locks, two receivers filling to get you

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,879
Speaker 2: to twenty four right, Yeah, we don't know the two receivers,

1501
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: but it'll be two of a group of three or

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: four of them.

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 3: Correct. Now here's where things I think get really really interesting.

1504
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: So you're at fifty because right now, if Marque's Goodwin

1505
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: can't be there, do you only keep five receivers or

1506
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 3: is this something where we're looking outside of the organization

1507
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: to try to find that speed guy Jalen Dartin we

1508
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: can't count on. We haven't seen him at all period,

1509
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: So he's I think he's a practice squad candidate for sure.

1510
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: The offensive line the way that we have it here,

1511
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: your top backup guard would be Luke Whippler, I guess.

1512
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 3: But knowing again that is there a belief that you

1513
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 3: can get Drew Forbes, Michael Dunn or Wes Martin or

1514
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: Coleby Gassett to the prize squad answer? That's probably yes,

1515
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: Perak can get two of them, so you could go

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: with nine there. I think if Forbes is Okay, I

1517
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: think Forbes would make this team. And then perhaps you

1518
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: carry ten linemen. If you carry ten linemen, now I

1519
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 3: think you might be bound to five at wide receiver. Okay,

1520
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: and then you're act to squading some of these guys

1521
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: or trying to remember you have one spot here, and

1522
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: now maybe that's with if it's a Wes Martin who

1523
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 3: you want to keep on your fifty three or whatever.

1524
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: Remember this Alex Wright spot is a spot that is

1525
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: going to be utilized for a day and then you

1526
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 3: put them onto ir so then you'd be able to

1527
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: bring back a veteran later that week that you knew

1528
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: was in So you could do that with a Maurice Hurst,

1529
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: for example. You could do that with you know, anybody

1530
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: who is not a vested player. The problem is if

1531
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 3: you were to go three, three, three, six and ten,

1532
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: which would be twenty five on offense, that leaves you

1533
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 3: twenty five on defense, you're at four defensive tackles or locks.

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: I think right now, Maurice Hurst to me feels like

1535
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: he has an edge over Jordan Elliot, although they restructure

1536
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 3: his contract so you'd be at nine on the defensive line.

1537
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 3: Then you would be I think you'll still end up

1538
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: being at six at linebacker. And the question is, you

1539
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: know Matthew Adams. I think they absolutely want him on

1540
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: special teams. So then it comes down to Tony Fields.

1541
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: In my mood, dea body for that last spot. That's

1542
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: a battle. Now. The only wrinkling of that would be

1543
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: that Awakin or take you just aren't ready to go, correct,

1544
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: But it feels like they are ready to go. I've

1545
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: talked to them. They both expect to play against Kansas City,

1546
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: so we'll see how they look there. So if you're

1547
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: at nine and six, that's at fifteen. That means if

1548
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 3: you went twenty five on offense, you only have ten

1549
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 3: more here, which means you either are carrying five corners

1550
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: if you carry Ronnie Hickman, or you're carrying six corners

1551
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: and only Ford safety and trying to get Ronnie Hickman

1552
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: through but run three interceptions. You feel like that's caught

1553
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: the attention of somebody. Plus the pedigree, right, So they

1554
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: love Mike Ford. Now, Mike Ford could be one of

1555
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: those guys that you say, hey, well come back to

1556
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: us after Alex Wright, come back here and play special

1557
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: teams for us at corner and then you wonder, you know,

1558
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: has Cam Mitchell played well enough that maybe they say,

1559
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: and AJ Green is a good special teams player too,

1560
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 3: but that Mike Ford's special team's value is greater than

1561
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: that of AJ Green. That I don't know. But these

1562
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 3: are very tough decisions because we're talking about guys that

1563
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: can play all of these discussions. So this roster has

1564
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 3: gotten a little bit more complex. And why has it

1565
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 3: gotten more complex to deal with number one? Because Austin

1566
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: Watkins has played so well? Number two because Nick Harris

1567
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: is all the way back and looks like he should

1568
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 3: be a starting center for a team in the NFL.

1569
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: Well he was here, Yeah, he beat out Posik. Now

1570
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: Postik is your starting center and he's been fantastic, and

1571
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that. But Nick Harris, you know,

1572
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: provides you real insurance there. But also is he somebody

1573
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: that becomes attractive to another team because his preseason tape

1574
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: is sensational? And then Luke Whippler has played so well

1575
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: he's staying in the program. So that has why you're

1576
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 3: at the nine. You know, do you end up trading

1577
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: a Nick Harris and then keeping and Drew Forbes or

1578
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: a Donner a Martin or Gosst and then you go

1579
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 3: with nine that way. There's a lot that has to

1580
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 3: be decided in that So Nick Harris's full recovery has

1581
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: put this in my opinion, that's made it a little

1582
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 3: bit tougher on that side of the ball. And then defensively,

1583
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: injury to Alex Right makes it tougher for you at linebacker.

1584
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 3: My mood Diabody coming out of nowhere has made it

1585
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 3: much harder for you. The Browns were very aggressive to

1586
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 3: pursue them as an undrafted free agent, remember and not

1587
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate for Jacob Phillips, but imagine how much more

1588
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: crowded this would be if Jacob Phillips were in the mix,

1589
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: you know. So the questions the guys we haven't seen

1590
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: at all are Matthew Adams, toc or a Walk. Now,

1591
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: we've seen a walk before. You average one hundred nine

1592
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: tackles a season for the four years prior to the

1593
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: injury last year. Taki is coming off of a career,

1594
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: but they're coming off of major injuries, and they're both

1595
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: heart and soul. Everybody loves them, great players, special teams,

1596
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: the whole deal. So we haven't seen those three. But

1597
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 3: those three were designed to be on this roster. And

1598
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 3: then so Ronnie Hickman's play I think has made it

1599
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: a little bit more complex in the sense that if

1600
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: you carry five safeties, that changes what you have to

1601
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: do in other places you can't At some point you know,

1602
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: you can't have it all. So that's kind of where

1603
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: we're at right now. And so I think the big

1604
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: decision points are going to come on how many why receivers,

1605
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: how many offensive linemen on offense? And then the question is,

1606
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, is Jaquem Grant good enough as a returner

1607
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 3: still even though we haven't seen it that he gets

1608
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: a spot. Is Marquise Goodwin back? And then Austin Watkins

1609
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: versus David Bell potentially and how does that how do

1610
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 3: they factor all that in? And then defensively, you have

1611
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: that one veteran you can work with, and you could

1612
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: work with that on Jaqem Grant that Alex writes Abo

1613
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: could be any veteran that you're like, we're gonna let

1614
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: you go but come back. Yeah, but that complicates things.

1615
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: Here's what's hard too, as you're going to hard this, Yeah,

1616
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: it is very difficult. It's hard from the standpoint if

1617
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: we haven't seen it. You mentioned four names where we

1618
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: know if they can go, they go, but we haven't

1619
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 2: seen it. It's just tell stuff and that's good when

1620
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: Grant talk and Walker and Matthew Adams and Adams. Right,

1621
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: So if you have five guys that you gotta know,

1622
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: you got to know by next Saturday, you gotta know,

1623
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: can you go? Yeah?

1624
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: And things are going to change around here, like I

1625
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: think we're going to get into I think leading up

1626
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: to this Scan City week, we're gonna get into our

1627
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: normal press this schedule, so the days of you know,

1628
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 3: everybody getting a bunch of reps are gone. It's gonna

1629
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: be starters getting reps. You'll get maybe some ones on

1630
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 3: ones good on good, but for the most part, it's

1631
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: gonna be some scout team stuff, like we're gonna start

1632
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: getting ready for.

1633
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 2: So this next week will be like a game week.

1634
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 3: I think. So that was the original idea with the schedule.

1635
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: So we'll see if they treated, you know, treat the

1636
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 3: days like Sunday would be like a Monday, you know,

1637
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: and then you'd go through you'd have because of the

1638
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 3: game Saturday, Thursday would be like Friday, Wednesday till you

1639
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: practice the big day on Tuesday, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, and

1640
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 3: then you'd have the walk through Friday game Saturday in

1641
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City. So that's.

1642
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: That's where you are. That's where you are. This is

1643
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: a for just a public service for those of you.

1644
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: Nate Tice, who does stuff for the Athletic He has

1645
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: a melt of every pass play and one RPO between

1646
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: Dwan Jones and Nolan Smith, the first run pick out

1647
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: of Philly. Yeah, check it out. Pretty good, pretty good

1648
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: on our side of things. Yeah, especially the way asked

1649
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 2: that the Eagles viewed Smith, view Smith elite as they

1650
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: view him. He was very good. He's been very good

1651
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: all camp. But like, it's just an easy watch. You're

1652
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: a Browns fan, you've had the Baldinger breakdown, to hear

1653
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 2: us talk about him, Hoff rave about him. It's just

1654
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: an easy minute and you can just see what Big

1655
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: Thanos is capable of, and quite frankly, it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: how are we doing?

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Speaker 12: Oh mama, Oh boy, that's an understatement and I would love.

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01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: To like foall tonight.

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: Baby.

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: They played two weeks too early for this. Isn't this

1673
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: normally when high school football goes, yes, it's become that

1674
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: it needs to move back a week. I got a

1675
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: college football is going to start when they go to

1676
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff. In two years. College football is

1677
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: going to start next weekend, and this is going to

1678
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: be week zero for college football. Next weekend is week

1679
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: zero for college football. Next year and within the next

1680
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: two years, this weekend will be week zero in Week

1681
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: one of college football will be a weekend before Labor Day.

1682
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't even know what day it is today Friday?

1683
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 2: What does that mean? I don't know.

1684
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 12: Like my wife said that to me this morning when

1685
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 12: she called to make sure I was still alive. She's like,

1686
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 12: a are you awake, Like you have a show at

1687
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 12: one o'clock. And I'm like, I'm awake, I'm up and movie.

1688
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't.

1689
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 12: Yeah. I'm like, I don't even what day is it.

1690
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 12: She goes, it's Friday. I go, there's data. I don't

1691
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 12: even know what that means because the bus rolls on.

1692
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody, I think yesterday from from

1693
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 3: Philly and they said something about Sunday and I'm, oh,

1694
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: like tomorrow and they're like, it's Thursday. I'm like, cool, cool.

1695
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 12: And I don't know anybody that hasn't been on these

1696
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 12: two trips that isn't feeling the exact same way we are.

1697
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it.

1698
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 12: Has been like get through, get get through the Kansas

1699
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 12: City game. Yeah, and then you get a breather yeah.

1700
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 12: And then and then there's some sense of a routine

1701
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 12: in normalcy because you know what you get every day

1702
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 12: at that point.

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01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 2: I got one for you guys right out of the gates.

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: This is from Tour Golf. You have twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: to make a hole in one on number seven at pebble,

1706
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: no win and hole is playing one hundred yards. If

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 2: you make a hole in one you get ten million bucks.

1708
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: If you fail, you go to prison for one month.

1709
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: So I think the problem is they make the prison

1710
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: penalty too short. Yeah, because I'm like ill could freeze

1711
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: on a month in prison. I could be fine, a month,

1712
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: be fine, he's safe six months then I'd have to

1713
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: think about it.

1714
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 3: I feel like I'd hit a whole one from one

1715
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: hundred yards with twenty four hours or the shots, Yeah, yeah,

1716
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: no question, I've been They did that with a guy.

1717
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 3: There's a video you can look. There was a guy

1718
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 3: on a European tour or they gave him and like

1719
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: how I think it was like one hundred shots or

1720
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 3: something like that. Now he's a tour player, so he's better.

1721
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think the yards is one hundred year.

1722
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 3: I think I'd get to hit a thousands of shots.

1723
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: It just fatigue would set in. You'd have to be

1724
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: able to you know, especially if you got to prepare

1725
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: to where you were, you know, spending an hour a

1726
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 2: day on the range or two hours a day of

1727
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 2: the range. So you're building all from one hundred yards

1728
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: and just same mechanism over and over again. Sure I

1729
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: would if the penalty isn't long enough with this one. Yeah,

1730
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: the penalty needs to be six months or something like.

1731
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 3: It should be a month for every million you get

1732
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: to make your own wager.

1733
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh I like that.

1734
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to win twenty million, you face twenty

1735
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: twenty months.

1736
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: See, now that's what you got to think about that coach.

1737
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: Twenty months.

1738
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get an hour number like ten and you

1739
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: haven't hit one yet. You're alright starting to get a

1740
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 3: little nurse on the road.

1741
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 12: I don't think anything positive comes from that. Now, I'm

1742
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 12: totally going to jail.

1743
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: I think I could get it.

1744
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: I think you'd make it in twenty four hours one

1745
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: hundred yards. I think you'd make one.

1746
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, dude, Like I don't. I

1747
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: think you better be? You better be?

1748
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: Do I get a month to prepare?

1749
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 3: You better be? A single? Single dude? You're I love you.

1750
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't think you could get it? It's a

1751
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 2: full day. That's a toughie.

1752
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 3: You gotta make.

1753
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: It, I know, but I mean it's a full many

1754
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: shots from.

1755
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: One hundred yards do you hit like within twenty feet

1756
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: of where you're trying.

1757
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: To hit it, half, you think, yeah, relations I mean

1758
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: they usually it's usually not my problem. My problem is

1759
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: the other mine is if you're.

1760
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 3: Within twenty feet fifty percent of the time from one

1761
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: hundred yards, you're like, that's You're like.

1762
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean I expect to land. No, I'm not a No.

1763
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: I feel like those stats always on a I would

1764
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: think that if if I'm one hundred yards out that

1765
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 2: I would think that I would land. I usually anticipate

1766
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: that it's going to land on the green. All right?

1767
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 3: Hold on. The kid sends out these like crazy text

1768
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: to us all the time with these like stats on

1769
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: golfing and maybe I have.

1770
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 2: A bad feel.

1771
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 12: Twenty feet eah, Schneider tweets at the show, give me

1772
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 12: did they let you Philly die bar hop by yourself?

1773
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 5: No?

1774
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 12: I was with people. I just wasn't when you ruminary

1775
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 12: they went to dinner tequila?

1776
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Right, No, tequila?

1777
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 3: What do you mean you went to dinner with us?

1778
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 3: All right, here's one, here's one.

1779
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't go to the next night. I was

1780
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: okay with that one. I needed to. I want to

1781
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: see a little history and do a little dive bar.

1782
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 5: I like it.

1783
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: It was great.

1784
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: What else do you have while these looking this up?

1785
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna find this though, because it's it's well.

1786
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 12: There's there's some things that are a little rough. Okay,

1787
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 12: all right, when the dust settles. How many teams do

1788
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 12: you think the Big ten twenty?

1789
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: Really? What's going on right now? And I'm sure you

1790
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: guys don't know this because you've been doing an NFL. Stanford, SMU,

1791
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: and Cal are currently willing to are currently willing to.

1792
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: Stanford especially is willing to take nothing from the from

1793
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: the conference just to be involved with the ACC. So

1794
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna pass their media rights. They don't

1795
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: want it. Why would you do that? Because they have

1796
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: a thirty six billion dollar endowment and so they don't

1797
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: need it. So they're going to Their plan right now

1798
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: is just get us into your club. We will We

1799
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: will get the a SEC network into the San Francisco market,

1800
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: and then in five years we will come out. It's

1801
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: kind of Lisa Rice calling conferences. W was calling on

1802
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: behalf of SMU. I think if I were the Big

1803
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: ten and Stanford and SMU were willing to come for

1804
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: nothing and I get the Bay Area with Stanford and

1805
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: all of that, and I get se, I get Dallas

1806
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: with SMU because I think SMU with money goes. I

1807
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: think that wouldn't take long at all. They were a

1808
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: number A team in the country and all of our lifetime,

1809
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: and now everything they did that was under the table

1810
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 2: is on board. They have a ton of money. If

1811
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: you give those two and they don't want a cut

1812
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 2: of the media, how do you not take them? You

1813
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: give a dance part in Nebraska for the Big Ten

1814
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: and then you put you get the most decorated academic

1815
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: athletic school in the world for nothing. You get It's

1816
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: a no brainer to do so. And I've heard the

1817
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: Big Ten is sniffing around it, and I think they should.

1818
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 2: All right, So twenty is my number.

1819
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 5: Twenty. There you go.

1820
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: That's from Love of Dog to all right.

1821
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: I got a couple of just interesting facts from the

1822
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 3: kid that he found. All right, So here's the first

1823
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: one that no PGA Tour player since they've been tracking

1824
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 3: this in the year two thousand and four, from seventy

1825
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 3: five to one hundred yards in the fairway for an

1826
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 3: entire season, no player on the PGA Tour has ever

1827
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 3: had an average proximity of less than ten feet.

1828
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: Wow, I wouldn't have had that.

1829
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: I would have thought from for an entire seat. That's

1830
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 3: these are tour pros. Nobody's ever. This is when the

1831
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: kid loves sending these things out. It's hilarious. From one

1832
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five yards out in the middle of

1833
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: the fairway, it says you you should be licking your chop.

1834
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: Shouldn't you set yourself up with a one way ticket

1835
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 3: to birdie Town? Wrong? From that spot, even scratch players

1836
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: are much more likely to make a bogie or a

1837
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 3: worse than a birdie from one hundred and twenty five

1838
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: yards out. A zero has a ten percent chance of

1839
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 3: making a birdie and a twenty percent chance of making

1840
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: a bogie. So scratch player is twice as likely to

1841
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 3: make a bogie than a birdie from one hundred and

1842
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 3: twenty five yards out.

1843
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: So here's the only thing. Though, it's a different thing

1844
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: if you're just hitting the same club over and over

1845
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: versus in a round of play. I will acknowledge is

1846
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: that my notion that I make that i'm within twenty

1847
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: feet on half is clearly not right, and I don't

1848
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: have a real grasp but what twenty feet is, Yeah,

1849
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: that's fair. I do expect half them to land on

1850
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: the green from a hundred yard that's fair. Okay, so,

1851
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: but I probably don't have the right depth of that.

1852
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: But I would also say that with that, you'd also

1853
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: have to acknowledge that doing the same thing over and

1854
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: over again is different than I'm in the middle of

1855
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: the fairway.

1856
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,799
Speaker 3: Totally, you're walking, I'm hitting one shop, right, I yes,

1857
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: I think that if I was going to make that

1858
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 3: bet with jail and mind when of my friends approached

1859
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: me with that, like if they're not like a single

1860
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: digit or they're one of those like old golfers that

1861
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 3: can't hit it off the tee, but like from one

1862
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 3: hundred yards, they're deadly, Like, don't do it.

1863
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: Do not do that. Yeah, don't do it.

1864
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 3: It's interesting about how many golf shots I've hit in

1865
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 3: my life from that distance. And I have two hold ones. Yeah,

1866
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: and those weren't even one hundred yards. But I hit

1867
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: from one hundred yards all the time from the middle

1868
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: of the fairway, and I probably have like maybe five

1869
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 3: dunks in my my life.

1870
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Sure, same hole, same tea box, samel.

1871
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 3: And it's seven. It's downhill. That's the other thing that's

1872
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: tough at the bag that it's downhill, because the spin

1873
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: could really be different, Like you almost have to like it,

1874
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 3: dunk it, or it's gonna hit right behind it and

1875
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 3: come back in. It would be I think it sounds.

1876
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Sounds easier than it is.

1877
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, all right for one month, though I'm risking well,

1878
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 3: depending on what. It doesn't specify what the jail sent

1879
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: a month. It doesn't say where you're going.

1880
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to send you to sing

1881
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: sing all.

1882
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 3: They're saying they're put up ten million dollars real entertainments, going.

1883
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: To be in the Wolf of Wall Street, Jordan BELLFOURT

1884
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Tennis Academy prison.

1885
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: Okay for then, fine, Yeah you could do that.

1886
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: That's a vacation.

1887
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 12: Uh at buck Eye BV. Who's the better Tom Tom

1888
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 12: Hanks or Tom Cruise.

1889
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: There's a question Hanks is Hanks is the better time,

1890
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: Cruise is the better movie star.

1891
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that Hanks is the better actor.

1892
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 3: I think he's funnier, better human.

1893
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: He's actually human, Yeah, Cruise, it doesn't feel like he's

1894
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: a human. He's kind of an android at this point.

1895
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 3: His ability to do his own sense though, is pretty

1896
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 3: awesome for sure.

1897
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: But I think he's trying to die while doing them.

1898
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: He wants to go off like that's it he's doing

1899
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: with the mission impossible. In the end of the road.

1900
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to age. He looks exactly the same. So, yeah,

1901
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there.

1902
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1903
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 2: Better film catalog Brad Pitt or Nick Cage Pitt. I

1904
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: don't think that's even particularly close. Cage has been off

1905
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: the grid for twenty years, Like Cage had to run

1906
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: every fund CA. You're getting Cage Cage all the oceans.

1907
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: With Pitt, you're getting inglorious bastards. You're getting snatch. Absolutely,

1908
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: you're getting snatched. You're getting there's Pitt's got a lot, Yeah,

1909
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: Legends of the Fall. You got a lot going on

1910
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: with Pitt.

1911
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nick Cage's finest stuff is probably the The Ways

1912
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: Off and con Air and what's one where he's like

1913
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: a treasure hunter?

1914
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, National Treasure Those are those are?

1915
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: Kids love those?

1916
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1917
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: And then and then he also gets to count in

1918
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 3: his in his repertoire, gets to count fast times, which

1919
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 3: is an all time classic.

1920
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. He does, he gets he does get

1921
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: fast Nick Coppola, as he's built. That's right. He just

1922
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: did one where like.

1923
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 3: It's like like a magician vampire or something.

1924
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Speaker 12: No, like he plays himself as the actor and this

1925
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 12: this drug lord like flies in me. It's hilarious. It's

1926
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 12: just entertaining.

1927
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he got good reviews for that one. Yeah,

1928
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: but it's been like twenty vampire on recently. Yeah, a vampire.

1929
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: It's like twenty years of straight to.

1930
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Speaker 3: Video for him. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1931
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Speaker 2: That's it shortened mail bag two fifty sad. What you

1932
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: hate to see it? Love it? Hate to see it?

1933
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: All right? So much more to come.

1934
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Speaker 3: Listen to The Brons Daily.

1935
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet coming

1936
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1937
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Speaker 2: Hey, enjoy your high school football tonight. Lots of what

1938
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: you're not on. Hell Sad, It's gonna be great.

1939
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 3: If you had an on air light, then if you

1940
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: had a light you had known, you'd know. Yeah, are

1941
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: you gonna be?

1942
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Speaker 2: It's October Fest.

1943
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 12: Oh the dohn Schwabin in the backyard Homestead Falls German Club.

1944
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, party starts at five o'clock. What do

1945
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs got tonight. Do you know, not a clue.

1946
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 12: It's weird, like you just swing the dogs. Don't worry,

1947
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 12: I'll get roped into that. I gotta move I gotta

1948
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 12: move the kid back to school Sunday. It's busy weekend. Yeah,

1949
01:29:58,960 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 12: it's supposed to be a weekend.

1950
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Not not Hudson at Highland tonight. That's a nice one.

1951
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: Both those teams are eleven and one. Yeah, so that's

1952
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: that'll be a fun, one, huge event down in Stark County.

1953
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: They've got so the winning a high school football program

1954
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 2: in the country in the history of the country of

1955
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Valdosta is playing at Massalin tonight. So if you imagine

1956
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 2: the Jews from that, do that, do yourself a favor

1957
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: on your Twitter. Just search like Maslin right now, like

1958
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 2: nuts bonkers that those two teams are playing, and then

1959
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: at Canton at the Hall of Fame. They've got like

1960
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: state champions like Glennville versus the state champion. I think

1961
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 2: of like Indiana, Kentucky's playing the state champion playing Hoban.

1962
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: Like all of this is happening. It's there's four really

1963
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 2: cool four games tomorrow, big one tonight with Masline in

1964
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Valdosta tonight, go Bulldogs. There you go. You had to

1965
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: look it up. I had to look it up. Set,

1966
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: I had to look it up. It's drifted, let me

1967
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 2: see it. I don't know what day it is either,

1968
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: So you too sleep. You've got to get the Fellas

1969
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Speaker 2: next level coming up, next thing for us, everybody cleve

1970
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Speaker 2: the Brons Daily, eight.

1971
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Speaker 3: Fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1972
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: You've been listening to

1973
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns and

1974
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