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Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy. Mass in your seat belts

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Speaker 1: for a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as always, broadcasting from the Senate

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Speaker 1: to studios and Orchard Park, New York at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: And it is a hump day edition as we will

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Speaker 1: be discussing a Bill's tight end position today, but not

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Speaker 1: before some really interesting news and not It's got some

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Speaker 1: other fun stuff that we'll have on the show today.

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Speaker 1: In the wake of Jack Lambert's false teeth holder going

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. And the fact that the headline says Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: like it says Thomas Brady in the body of the article, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, okay, but then you look

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Speaker 1: at the head that's like Tom Brady, and they got

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Speaker 1: a little sketch, yeah, Bradshaw's sketch of his elbow, you know.

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Speaker 1: With Yeah, it's it's amazing. That's pretty that's pretty freaky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it it was a little unnerving for me. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not you know what I mean, I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist at all, But you see something like that,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it make you think just a little bit, who's

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Speaker 1: traveling through time and messing with everybody? Like somebody's believe

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Speaker 1: in coincidence. Now, I will say this, Tom Brady was

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Speaker 1: already on the face of the earth at that time.

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Speaker 1: He was a six year old um in nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 1: so you know whatever. But he's growing up in what

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Speaker 1: San Mateo, California and doing god knows what, you know,

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Speaker 1: following the forty nine ers or whatever. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's just it makes me wonder sometimes somebody's

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Speaker 1: got a machine somewhere. It's amazing that that those And

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Speaker 1: like we said, and I realize it's a common name.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a million Tom Bradies in the

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Speaker 1: United States. But think about this, it isn't he didn't

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Speaker 1: come up with some well, Joe Smith, an infinite number

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Speaker 1: of other names that were possible, right, literally infinite, and

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Speaker 1: that one, Yeah, who goes on to become the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback of all time and win more Super Bowls than

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Speaker 1: that guy. So it's it's a little it's a little freakish.

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Speaker 1: He was. Tom Brady's a little freaky. Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a good story, that's yeah. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that at the time that he had the surgery,

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Speaker 1: he was the winningest quarterback in Super Bowl history and

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Speaker 1: he chooses the name of the guy who is now

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Speaker 1: the winningest quarterback in Super Bowl history. There's just that's

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Speaker 1: just too freaky for me. I can't handle that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But we are talking Bills and what needs to be

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Speaker 1: addressed for their roster, and the focus today is the

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Speaker 1: tight end position. We saw Kyle Rudolph get released yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We know there's going to be a bounty of free

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Speaker 1: agents at the position available in free agency. We know

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Speaker 1: that there's a a generational player at the position coming

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Speaker 1: out in the draft and Kyle Pitts, the Bills aren't

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Speaker 1: going to get a whiff of him he'll be done

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Speaker 1: in the top five picks. But it got us to thinking,

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Speaker 1: we know the Bills are presumably going to address their

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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lines first and foremost this offseason. That appears,

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Speaker 1: at least to all of us to be the priorities

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Speaker 1: that have to be addressed, just by virtue of the

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Speaker 1: fact that five of the eight guys you addressed every

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Speaker 1: Sunday on the offensive line their contracts are up. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to do something there. I mean, it's patently obvious.

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Speaker 1: And then it's a little more speculative. But the lack

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Speaker 1: of production on the defensive front lends many to believe

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Speaker 1: that there'll be some shuffling going on there, whether you're

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Speaker 1: moving people off the roster, restructuring people, or signing new people.

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Speaker 1: But that aside, okay, knowing that's probably going to happen,

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Speaker 1: how does that impact your view of the bills tight

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Speaker 1: end position? What commitment are you willing to make at

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Speaker 1: the tight end position for the Bills? Put your GM

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Speaker 1: hat on today and let us know what commitment you

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Speaker 1: are willing to make to get better production out of

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Speaker 1: the tight end position. Brandon being in his season wrap

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Speaker 1: up press conference, made it clear about how he felt

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Speaker 1: about the tight end position. Why don't we play those

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Speaker 1: comments right now? From in and being it was up

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Speaker 1: and down. Um, to be honest with you, we you know,

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Speaker 1: we started out with Croft and um Dawson, and I

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Speaker 1: think Dawson had a concussion and maybe a calf or something.

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Speaker 1: Then he got covid. Um. He had a very inconsistent

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Speaker 1: start to the year. Um. Tyler made you know, the

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Speaker 1: big catch against the Rams and made some made a

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Speaker 1: couple of touchdown catchers for us. We just never, um,

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Speaker 1: we never really got that position. You know. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, I thought we did a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dawson kind of started getting his groove and

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Speaker 1: but it was never where I felt the opposing defense

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Speaker 1: was like, man, we've got to stop their tight ends

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Speaker 1: from going off, and so we'll look to that group. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith obviously brought a lot, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: a white tight end blocker for us and some physicality

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Speaker 1: and leadership is just off the charts. Um. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, we'd love to have a

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Speaker 1: guy like we just based in Kansas City. Uh, they don't,

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Speaker 1: they don't come very often. But that's what you want,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we got some guys here we want

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Speaker 1: to continue to develop and see what happens. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: if there's ways to add competition, whether it's free agency

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Speaker 1: or the draft, you know we would do that as well.

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Speaker 1: So it's clear just by those comments describing the production

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Speaker 1: is up and down and then saying I'm sure every

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Speaker 1: team in the league we'd love to have a Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey type but then saying we'd look to add competition,

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Speaker 1: there seems to be an open willingness to upgrade that

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Speaker 1: position if the opportunity presents itself. So the choices we

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Speaker 1: have for you on the tweet sheet at one bills

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Speaker 1: live in terms of, you know, put your GM hat

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Speaker 1: on today, what commitment are you willing to make of

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Speaker 1: the tight end position, Spend for a starter, get an

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Speaker 1: affordable free agent signed, or draft one. Let us know

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, or you can give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Open lines for you at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one, eight fifty. Where do you kind of come

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Speaker 1: down on this team? Yeah, I think I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy. They gotta. They're all sign a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys for training camp, for sure, and I

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Speaker 1: think they will be able to get a free agent

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Speaker 1: to come in. I don't think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: splash guy. But you think about and I was telling

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Speaker 1: you this before the show, do you if you had

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Speaker 1: Gronks a free agent, He's probably not gonna go anywhere

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Speaker 1: except Tampa to play with. But Gronk Jack zach ertz

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Speaker 1: Uh this new guy we just saw what John hu

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Speaker 1: Smith and then uh who just got released? H Kyle Rudolph,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph. Then you got Hunter Henry. Um, you got

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Speaker 1: some guys out there's a ton of guys out there.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys on that list the Bills could grab.

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Speaker 1: I think they could afford him and get him on

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Speaker 1: the roster when when push comes to shove. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that that would be considered now John hu Smith

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Speaker 1: or Hunter Henry. Yeah, they're young and they're good. If

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Speaker 1: you can get one of those guys, you're going to

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Speaker 1: play pay a premium for them though that's a home run. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that guy goes to number one right away, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but you are going to pay a premium. And as

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Speaker 1: as Brandon Bean has said, no big splashes now, he

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Speaker 1: said that in January, and then JJ Watt got released

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Speaker 1: and they went to pursue him, you know, not with

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Speaker 1: any kind of ridiculous money, but at least they demonstrated

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Speaker 1: that if the right person comes free, they're willing to

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Speaker 1: kick the tires, see what the financial commitment would be

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Speaker 1: and potentially compete for a player like that and to

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Speaker 1: get him signed. So knowing that I don't know that

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Speaker 1: we can rule anything out at any position, but well,

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Speaker 1: we're asking you where the GM had today for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: knowing the lines are probably going to be addressed first,

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Speaker 1: what commitment are you willing to make at the tight

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Speaker 1: end position? Eight three fifty eight fifty fifty. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I have to take a break here. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: in a moment on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Kasker here on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I also want to remind you about twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking with Ben Lindsay from Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: It's done a lot of offseason analysis. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: been a part of that. So I'm gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: to Ben in the second hour of the program to

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Speaker 1: address some of the things that he covered with the

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Speaker 1: Bills regarding free agency and the like. So we'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with him in about twenty five minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: We are asking you to be a Bills general manager today,

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Speaker 1: and what commitment level are you willing to make at

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Speaker 1: the tight end position. When Steve and I just went

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Speaker 1: to break there, Steve was posing to me the options

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Speaker 1: of some of the veterans that figure to be out there,

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Speaker 1: either zach Ertz, which who's expected to be a cap

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Speaker 1: casualty hasn't happened yet, but it's got an eight and

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Speaker 1: a quarter million dollar cap figure for a Philadelphia team

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Speaker 1: that is strapped, especially after trading Carson Wentzon and courring

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Speaker 1: a thirty four million dollar deadcap hit with him. So

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Speaker 1: he'll just be one of the many who are out there,

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Speaker 1: along with the anticipated free agents expected to hit the

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Speaker 1: market here Hunter, Henry John Who, Smith Gronk, Gerald Everett,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Reed, Trey Burton, Jared Cook, Richard Rogers, Demetrius Harris,

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Speaker 1: and even the Bills Tyler Croft. So long list of options,

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Speaker 1: But what kind of commitment level are you going to

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Speaker 1: make at the tight end position? You got to spend

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Speaker 1: for a starter try to land an affordable free agent

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Speaker 1: to compliment Dawson Knox in the passing game, or do

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Speaker 1: you just draft one. I don't know if I can

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Speaker 1: get around drafting one, Steve only because I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're looking for someone that can upgrade the passing game

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Speaker 1: at that position. Now. I think they believe that Hunt,

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Henry, that Dawson Knox will get there eventually.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're convinced he will get there

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Speaker 1: in this his third season, and I think to kind

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Speaker 1: of protect themselves, they're going to be looking for some

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Speaker 1: insurance at that position at the very least. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if drafting one is necessarily the answer, because

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna have to wait on a rookie to

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Speaker 1: kind of get There's a lot to do with that position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Now this doesn't mean I think they should

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Speaker 1: just like brush it off. I think Dawson Knox is

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Speaker 1: this is the year for him. If he doesn't take

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Speaker 1: a big step forward this year, then you got to

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Speaker 1: think about moving on from him. Tommy Sweeney, They've got

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Speaker 1: to have an idea of what he's going to bring

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Speaker 1: to the table, if they already, if they don't already.

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Speaker 1: I certainly they would love to upgrade at the at

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Speaker 1: the position. But if even if, if they believe even

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Speaker 1: more strongly than I do, that Knox is going to

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Speaker 1: be the guy this year, they can't just like walk

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Speaker 1: in expecting it to happen. They got to have a

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Speaker 1: backup plan. And that means one of these guys on

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Speaker 1: this list or a draft pick, and even if it's

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Speaker 1: away all the lessons, the hard lessons that Dawson Knox

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Speaker 1: different lessons that are just as important. And as we

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Speaker 1: just heard with the Brandon beat Brandon being SoundBite that

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Speaker 1: we just played from his season ending press conference in

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Speaker 1: late January, he thought the production of the position was

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Speaker 1: up and down, and it's clear that they want the

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Speaker 1: tight end to be a greater part of the passing

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Speaker 1: game going forward based on some of the comments that

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Speaker 1: he made. The question is how do you address it

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Speaker 1: so it can be And that's why we're posing this

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Speaker 1: question to you today. So let's go to the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: starts us off by saying zero commitment, tight end will

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Speaker 1: not beat Mahomes. You need to sign Milano, signed Williams,

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Speaker 1: the last priority. That is a lot on the list

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Speaker 1: for Kel. It's a little dispassionate too. I mean they're like, listen,

640
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Speaker 1: cut this guy, cut this guy, cut that guy. Forget

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00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: about that at about that position. Let's you know, and

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00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I and I and I see where he's coming from,

643
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: or Kell or whoever that is he or he or she,

644
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: I see where they're coming from because of the last

645
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: game the Bills played in the AFC Championship. But I've

646
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: said this too, and I don't know if a lot

647
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: of people heard me say it right after the game.

648
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: The Bills are already at a level or they were

649
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: this last you know, December January, at a level where

650
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: they're everything you could hope they could be getting to

651
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the level they did this last year. Gives you a

652
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: chance every year. To get that all you have to do.

653
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to like revamp and take a total different,

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00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a totally different philosophical approach the game. In order to

655
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: beat that one team, you need to get as good

656
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: as you were last year and just play better on

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00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: that day. So you don't have to reinvent yourself to

658
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: beat that team in Kansas City. You just have to

659
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: play better on the day you play that team in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. And there's a gazillion things that can happen

661
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: between now and then, but you're still playing against thirty

662
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: one other teams, not just one. And I know it's

663
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: it's easy to sit back and say, well, sooner or

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00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: later you're gonna run into those guys and maybe maybe not,

665
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get a chance to measure yourself about

666
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Speaker 1: halfway through the season this coming year because you got

667
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: them again in the regular season. Don't don't build your

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: entire philosophy around trying to beat one guy one team.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it. The Bills proved it for twenty

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00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: years against New England. Don't do that. Build your team

671
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: so that you can play well against everybody and then

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Speaker 1: play your best when you meet that guy. Don't throw

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Speaker 1: the whole philosophy out the window because you got beaten

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Speaker 1: one game by a guy and by three guys on

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Speaker 1: their team. Don't do that. You got to stay at

676
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: the level you're at, get to that spot, and then

677
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: play better on that day. That's that's the philosophy. They've

678
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: got a philosophy that's gotten them from a an afterthought

679
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: in the league to the final four. Like and like

680
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: plowed their way to the final four. I mean, there

681
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: was no stopping them. So that's where you want to be.

682
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Give yourself that shot every year, and then when that

683
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: day comes and you do meet that team that your

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Speaker 1: nemesis play better. That's it's that simple. You don't have

685
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Speaker 1: to throw this whole philosophy thing out and say, well

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Speaker 1: you don't carry all right, let's just get rid of

687
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: all our tight ends and was just and was get

688
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: everything we can to stop Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey

689
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: and Mahomes and we're gonna be fine. Well, you'll never

690
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: see those guys because you'll never get as good as

691
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: you were last year when you didn't you know, when

692
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: you didn't have that philosophy, you'll never be that good.

693
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: You gotta play your game with the guys, the best

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Speaker 1: guys you can get, and when you get to that

695
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: game where you meet that team, you gotta play your best.

696
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Speaker 1: That's all. I just wonder which positions on this roster

697
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: rise to the level of importance where the Bills will

698
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: lop fat salaries off this roster to make room under

699
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: the cap to address those positions that they feel are important.

700
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: I believe they would do that for their defensive line.

701
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I believe they would do that for their offensive line.

702
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced they would do that for the tight

703
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: end position or the running back position. Well, definitely not

704
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Speaker 1: the running back. I'm not convinced they would. I mean,

705
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: we heard Brandon Bean's comments. We played him in the

706
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: first segment. He said he characterized the play at that

707
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: position is up and down. Thought it got better at

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00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Thought Dawson Knox was coming

709
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Speaker 1: on at the end of the year, he was contributing more,

710
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: but he was like the fourth or fifth option at

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00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: best in that passing game. So they feel they can

712
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: do better at the position, They would like to do

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00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: better at the position. But I don't get the sense

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Speaker 1: that it is an end all, be all situation where it,

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Speaker 1: come hell or high water, they're going to do something

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Speaker 1: to dramatically improve that position. I think I think it

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00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: sits high enough. Go back and watch some of those games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dawson Knox caught like he had got credit

719
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Speaker 1: for how many touchdowns, like five touchdowns on the season,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns on the season he got he had all

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Speaker 1: those touch He had like three touchdowns called back. Remember

722
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Speaker 1: they were scored. They scored like nine touchdowns against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: and only four or five of them counted. He had

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns called back on the season. That's a pretty

725
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: good year for a tight end, particularly in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about it, that's exactly where you

727
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: want that guy to be good, and he was really

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Speaker 1: good in the red zone and the playoffs. He caught

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Speaker 1: this ball. The MSG viewers are watching this catch against

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Speaker 1: the Colts right now, the one where Josh tucked the

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Speaker 1: ball under his arm and then his falling down and

732
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Speaker 1: shot putting it to him touchdown in the playoffs. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know. I went back and watched the Denver game

734
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Speaker 1: from this year. He had a nice touchdown in the

735
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Speaker 1: dinner game and had a big touchdown coming back late

736
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Speaker 1: going the other direction. He had he had. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a guy who I think Knox is one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that is absolutely on the cusp of being

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Speaker 1: a difference maker. My question, I asked Brownie this in

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Speaker 1: the in the break, because this is a team that

741
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: went six and one with John Brown off the field.

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00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Would you give Dawson Knox or a tight end anytime

743
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: John Brown money and just and leave and didn't have

744
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: like Jake Kumero take his spot on the outside or

745
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens take John Brown's in the for wide spot.

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00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Would you give a tight

747
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: end that money in place of John Brown? Knowing how

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00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: good John Brown's been for this team they were, they

749
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: were seven and one without him. Gabriel Davis kind of

750
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: established himself as a deep thread on this roster. So

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00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: and we know that John Brown has a fat cap figure.

752
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: The only thing is, Steve, you're you're looking to lop

753
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: that money off of the books to try to create

754
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: cap room. Do you jump right back in and spend

755
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: it on build position yea? Or do you spend that

756
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: money on the lines. I do not. I do not.

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean there might be some some listeners. That's why

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00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to think. The way this is probably going

759
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: to go is they probably sign an affordable free agent,

760
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: somebody that's affordable that might be able to give him

761
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a lift at that position, or at

762
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: least supplement what Dawson Knox does. It's probably the way

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Speaker 1: it goes. Patrick and Rochester, hang tight. We'll get to

764
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: you when we were turn as we're talking tight end

765
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: and the commitment to making that position better this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Where do you sit if you're Bill's GM for a day?

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00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Let us know at eight fifty one eight eight five

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00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty back in a flash here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris brown Seed Chaster,

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Speaker 1: you're after you to put your GM hat on for

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Speaker 1: the day. What commitment are you willing to make in

773
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the tight end position? I think we all know that

774
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: the lines are going to be addressed. They'll probably be

775
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: the top priorities due to the circumstances we've laid out.

776
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: But where does tight end fall on the priority list

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Speaker 1: and the commitment you're willing to make to make it better?

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00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: Eighth three five fifty. As promised, we're gonna lead off

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00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: with Patrick and Rochester. Patrick, what do you have for us?

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00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: You're on one bills live, Hey, guys, I think this

781
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: is the year that being trades back. I think there's

782
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: lots of starter level talent in the second and third rounds.

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00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: And um, I ended up doing all those mock drafts

784
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: and I traded back. I ended up addressing tight end

785
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: first with the Pat Freermith. I don't know how to

786
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: say his last name, but he's uh, he really produced

787
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: at Penn State. I ended up with it was like

788
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Pat at forty one, Nagie Harris at sixty one, sixty

789
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: six was Tyler Shelvin, and seventy two was Landed Dickerson.

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00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: And it involves some finagling with the Lions and the Jets. Um.

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00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Jets would ever really traded

792
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: the bills, um, but uh. And ended up with you know,

793
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: addressing these uh like little areas of need and I

794
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, hoping that Starr comes back, gives uh,

795
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, shelviny year to like rotate rounds. I think

796
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Nagi Harris comes in immediately as RB one and UM

797
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Shelvin excusing me. Dickerson addressed his old line versatility, somebody

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00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: that we would need if um uh, you know, if

799
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: we lose fully Siano, and he also addresses the nastiness

800
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: that Feliciano has. So I'll hang up and listen. But

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00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: I think it's possible with trading back that we really

802
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: we fill things out, but it's going to take attacking

803
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: the second and third rounds. Gentlemen. Yeah, I get it,

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00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: and I see what you're saying. But here's the problem.

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: The only problem I have with your scenario is that

806
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: I want to see what our offensive line and defensive

807
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: line look look at like before we go to that.

808
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: Because if you're going to take a tight end running

809
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: back in the first round or the second round or

810
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: the second round back, this is a pretty hard roster

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00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: to make right about now. Yeah, unless you're an offensive lineman.

812
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: With the roster the way it sits right now, every

813
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: place else has got quality people and I don't know that.

814
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: And I can listen. If Naji Harris is there at

815
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: sixty one, yea, I'll be shocked. I'll be shocked, But

816
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: maybe he is. I really don't think they're going to

817
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: take a tight end that high in the draft that

818
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: would surprise me unless they knock it out of the

819
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: park on free agency and the offensive line. And right now,

820
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: it's easy to do these mock drafts because you know,

821
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly where they're gonna sit before draft day.

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00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has said time and time again, year after year,

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00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: the object is to make sure you don't have any

824
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: positional emergencies for the draft. They do have best on

825
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: the board. They've got a positional emergency right now with

826
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: their offensive line. So how much work can be done

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Speaker 1: if they can fix them now in the draft, if

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Speaker 1: they can get us all to go, oh wow, yeah, okay,

829
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: then yeah, maybe you're right, but I can't go there yet.

830
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: And just so everybody knows, a couple of land and

831
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: Dickers in the Alabama offensive lineman is coming off of

832
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: a knee surgery. Early returns on his recovery are very good,

833
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: but obviously you got thirty two teams that are gonna

834
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: have different medicals on him as to what his long

835
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: range future holds, and that could impact his draft status

836
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: as well. Let's go to Jesse and Buffalo. Jesse, what

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00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live, Hey,

838
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Chris say tas how Hey, I was thinking more. I

839
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: don't think the Bills are fired, and I don't think

840
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: they have a lot that they need to do, especially

841
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: with I believe in most teams are going to cut

842
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: a lot of cap space if people don't redo their

843
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: contracts with the way the cap is is now, and

844
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Speaker 1: with us having two teams with a lot of cap

845
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: space and the Patriots in the Jet, Bills can sit

846
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: back and wait a little bit. Um, there's gonna be

847
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: a lot out there. We do need a defensive end

848
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: of the tight end, and I think the tight end

849
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be changed at all. Maybe ask somebody

850
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: from free agency, but I would go with just doing

851
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: the trenches. And I think the run game assists the

852
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: tight ends us not really running the ball as like

853
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: we did. Secletary proves his first year that he can

854
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: run day ball. Just needs to call more run plays

855
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: this year. It changes everything from the play action to

856
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to everybody helping everybody. It's really a team sport.

857
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we're a fire at I don't know

858
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: how much Adrian Peterson wilcause because I think he would

859
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: be like our Leonard Fournette, somebody not expensive, but we

860
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: need somebody like when we had Chris Ivory. I think

861
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: his name is hitting a whole harder than Moss and

862
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Singletary because I do believe they're the same back. I'll

863
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: hang up and let you guys, So, yeah, thanks for

864
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: the call, Jesse, appreciate it. J I know a lot

865
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: of people are thinking that, you know, another running back

866
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: will fix the issues. Steve and I kind of go

867
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: a different way on that, and you got to fix

868
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: the line. I think that's where the fixing has to happen.

869
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: And being made it pretty you didn't even have to

870
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: read between the lines with what he said in his

871
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: season rapper press conference, he pretty much said the problem

872
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: is not Zach Moss or Devin Singletary. He didn't point

873
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: the finger at the offensive line, but I think it's

874
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: two parts. It's part offensive line and it's part schematics

875
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: and the way they've drawn up the run game. They

876
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: got away from a gap scheme when more to his

877
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: own scheme in the end of the year, had limited

878
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: success doing that, particular the outside zone stuff, because you

879
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: don't have explosive backs, so the skill sets of your

880
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: backs should determine how you run the football and straight

881
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: ahead in between the tackles is probably the better way

882
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: to go with those two guys. If you want to,

883
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, throw a swings pass to Devin Singletary out

884
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: in space. I can get behind that. But I think

885
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: the run game schematics and the line play as a group,

886
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to shuffle the deck and

887
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: work the five man mix next year, I think that's

888
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: going to do a lot more to help your run

889
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: game than drafting a Nagie Harris or adding an Adrian

890
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: Peterson right well, and Jesse from Buffalo just and he's right.

891
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: I think in the long run and the big picture,

892
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: the Bills can afford to be very patient. While the

893
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Jets in New England can go out and do their

894
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: thing with all the money in cap space, the Bills

895
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: need to be patient and grab guys that are just

896
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna that are gonna help them. I think also that

897
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: he's right tight end is and we said it in

898
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: the in the Twitter poll today. It's not a top priority,

899
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: but they got to do something. And what are your

900
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: thoughts because a lot of people it's all a around

901
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: the league, and certainly in Bills in the Bills fan base.

902
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: People are going, we need we need a Travis Kelsey

903
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: or George Kittle, and just from a numbers perspective, they're

904
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: going to have to do something. Miss Tyler Croft is

905
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: a free agent and Lee Smith is contemplating retirement, right,

906
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: so you might be down too right off the bat.

907
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: And the thing about running the football better, not more.

908
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: We talked to Ruben Brown on the show a couple

909
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and he said, listen, they need if

910
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: they want to run it better, they need to run

911
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: it more because it gets the offensive lineman into a

912
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: rhythm and the defense doesn't. With as fewer runs as

913
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: the Bills offense puts out there, the defensive line never

914
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: puts that for foremost in their mind, so they're always

915
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: rushing the pass or even on first particularly on first

916
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: down and third down, because the Bills throw it more

917
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: on first down than anybody in the league, and of

918
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: course on third down, if the yardage is right, you

919
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: expect it. So the defense never really stands up in

920
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: their stance to take on blocks. They always fireing forward

921
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: and in the run game, that's a hard thing to combat.

922
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: So both and we were and you and I were

923
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: on a roundtable with Maddi Glab in the pod squad

924
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: here with Eric Wood, he said the same thing. If

925
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: you want to run it better, just hand it off more.

926
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: It'll happen, and there's something to be said for that,

927
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, it's hard to do that when

928
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: it's first. It's first, and ten, second, and nine, third

929
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: and eight on about three straight series. And we can

930
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: get into a conversation about that too, because the advanced

931
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: analytics say you don't run to win, you win by

932
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: running late in the game, and I can kind of

933
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: pull those up during the break here and we can

934
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: get into that conversation. But we have to break now

935
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: because when we come back Pro football focuses. Ben Lindsay

936
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: is going to join us as he's had some pretty

937
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: comprehensive reports on their site about free agency and the

938
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: Bills specifically, so we'll talk to him when we return here.

939
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid of Health, It's

940
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radiolow Bills Radio Network Sports Date, your sports

941
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. The tight end market could

942
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: be an interesting one for the Bills in free agency.

943
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: A big name added to that list on Tuesday, the

944
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: Vikings releasing veteran tight end Kyle Rudolph. He still had

945
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: three more seasons left on his four year, thirty six

946
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: million dollar contract extension he signed before the twenty nineteen season,

947
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: but the Vikings will now save five million in cap

948
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: space by cutting him. But the start of the new

949
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: league year a little over two weeks away, the Saints

950
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: are starting to explore new avenues to find a way

951
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: under the cap. New Orleans has had trade conversations about

952
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: dealing defensive tackle Malcolm Brown. The trade involving Brown would

953
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: save the Saints about five million in cap space. He's

954
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: appeared in twenty nine games of the Saints in his

955
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: first two seasons in New Orleans after making the move

956
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: from New England in a cost cutting move, The Jets

957
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: on Tuesday released better in defensive end to Henry Anderson,

958
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: who started twenty four games for them over the past

959
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: three seasons. Anderson was a key player in their defensive

960
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: line rotation. Cowboys want to get a long term deal

961
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: done with Dak Prescott, preferably before March ninth, the franchise

962
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: tag deadline. After months to negotiate, it appears the sides

963
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: finally are making progress. Calvin Watkins of the Dallas Morning

964
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: News reports Prescott's representation in the Cowboys discussions are quote

965
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: more productive than they have been. Placing the franchise tag

966
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 1: on Prescott will result in a thirty seven point seven

967
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit for the Cowboys, but give them

968
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: until July fifteenth to continue negotiating. And the Buffalo Sabers

969
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: fell behind early in the first period against the Rangers

970
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: and never recovered, falling three to two. Sam ryin Horton

971
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: Tobias readers scored for the Sabers. Next up for Buffalo,

972
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: they'll stay on the road as they make the short

973
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: trip to the Island to face the Islanders on Thursday

974
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: to open a three game series. That is your sports

975
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

976
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: you for our number two of the program and joining

977
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: us on the line right now, pro Football Focus analyst.

978
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: He's also part of the PFF team for NBC Sunday

979
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Night Football. It is one. Ben Lindsay joining us on

980
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: the show now. Ben, thanks for making some time for us.

981
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: You and your family doing all right here during the pandemic. Yeah,

982
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: We're all doing good. It's good to be on Yeah.

983
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: We've been watching some of this stuff about Pro Football

984
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Focus and all the analytics that are coming out about

985
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: the Bills over the past six or seven months. You

986
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: had some nice stuff about, you know, the players that

987
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: improved and how the Bills are positioned going forward. What

988
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: do you thought, I mean, the splash that Josh made

989
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made this year was pretty unprecedented. Tell us

990
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: what you guys the analysts over at Football Focus thought

991
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: about it, because outside of a couple of crazies like

992
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Brownie and me, nobody really saw a jump like this coming. Yeah,

993
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: if you would have told me that Josh Allen had

994
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: the season that he did before last year, I probably

995
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't have believed you. He took a took a huge

996
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: leap from his first two years in the NFL to

997
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. And the big thing that really

998
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: makes me think his jump was real. What was the

999
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: improved accuracy? The completion percentage thing was obviously something that

1000
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: all the broadcasts were touching on towards the end of

1001
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: the year, but even our accuracy charting numbers showed he

1002
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: made a real jump throwing to his right specifically, So

1003
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: when you make that jump in accuracy. That's a hard

1004
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: thing to fake, and I think that's big for the

1005
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Bills moving forward. That should give them confidence that with

1006
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: the tools that he already had in place, he's going

1007
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: to be a top quarterback of the NFL moving forward.

1008
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: And with that in mind, Steve and I have been

1009
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: trying to convince some Bills fans that call the show.

1010
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: You know, they hear Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott at

1011
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: the end of the season basically say we have to

1012
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: run the ball better. They think that means they got

1013
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: to add it running back, But we're the opinion that

1014
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: they've got to just kind of retool the offensive line

1015
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: to improve the run game. It seemed as though you

1016
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: kind of shared that opinion in the rite up you

1017
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: had a couple of weeks ago in doing like the

1018
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: free agency and draft preview for the Bills. Yeah, I

1019
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: don't think running back is the way that the Bills.

1020
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: The best way for the Bills to improve the running game.

1021
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: They spend a third round take on running backs each

1022
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: of the last two years in Devin Singletary and demos,

1023
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: and then you look look at their offensive line. I

1024
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: think that's the area where they can try to put

1025
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: in resources and really improve adding pieces to that offensive line,

1026
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: both returning guys in free agency like Darryl Williams, and

1027
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: potentially going out and adding new pieces in the draft.

1028
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the area you want to

1029
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: focus of your Buffalo because not only had that improved

1030
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: the run game, but it gives you some more stability

1031
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: and pass protection too. And the Bills are one of

1032
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: the past heaviest teams in the league last year. Well,

1033
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: given that, can you what can you decipher from what

1034
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: happened to the Bills offensive line last year? The way

1035
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: they played? I know too they shuffled their guards in

1036
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: center for the first eight or ten weeks of the

1037
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: season before Feliciano got in there. Mitch Morse came back

1038
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: from that from the concussion. Of course, Cody Ford exited

1039
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: with a season ending injury. So the first eight to

1040
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: ten games of the season, they never had the schmuzzle. Yeah,

1041
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: they had the different guard center combination every week. So

1042
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: given that and the fact that you know the same

1043
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: running backs are going to be behind that offensive line,

1044
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: what will happen or what will it look like with

1045
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: that offensive line going forward? That will make him play

1046
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: better and run the ball more effectively. Yeah, I think

1047
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: if you're looking at bringing back the same group of guys,

1048
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: resigning Feliciano, resigning Williams, the big thing is just going

1049
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: to be that continuity on the interior, keeping guys healthy,

1050
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: and Cody Ford, I think is a big part. If

1051
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: he does stay at left guard, him taking a step

1052
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: forward at that position transitioning over from tackle is going

1053
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: to be big for their round game. And then you're

1054
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: staying healthy. It wasn't a bad group inside, but I

1055
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: do think it's a spot where at the back end

1056
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: of the first round, potentially in the mid rounds, if

1057
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: they look to add a guard, it can really move

1058
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. It wouldn't be a bad thing

1059
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: for them to do. I thought you had posed an

1060
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: interesting question in that Bill's right if you had on

1061
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: PF dot Com a couple of weeks ago. Will Star

1062
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Latulala's return benefit the rest of the defense? This has

1063
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: got to be a question that the Bill's front office

1064
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: is pondering because the six of the top eleven salaries

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00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: on this roster belonged to defensive lineman. They're heavily invested

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00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: in a contract they handed Mario Addison last year or

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00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: a three year deal. Same thing with Vernon Butler two

1068
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: year deal and a three year deal for Quinton Jefferson,

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: and I don't think they felt they got an adequate

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: return on investment from those three players. So now you've

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: got to ask yourself, does Star make those three guys

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00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: demonstrably better? I don't know how much you've pondered that,

1073
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: but where would you come down on that. Can one

1074
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: space eating defensive tackle make all three of those guys

1075
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: better players for this defensive front? I think, based on

1076
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: what we've heard from Brandon Bean himself from some other people,

1077
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: they really did miss a Star last year. Those big

1078
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: defensive tackles who eat blocks, it's not the sexiest job

1079
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: in the world. They don't put up stats, but it's

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: important to keep your linebackers clean coming downhill. I think

1081
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: that's it hurts Tremaine Edmonds last year. It hurt some

1082
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: of the other guys along the defensive line where they

1083
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: didn't get as many one on ones. A guy like

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00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: ed Oliver is someone that Buffalo needs to take a

1085
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: step and I think having Star there next to them

1086
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the defensive line, it will give

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: them some more opportunities to rush the passer and really

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: take that next step forward in his career. And as

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00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: we as we see this the defensive line and the

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: way that the Buffalo Bills deploy their guys. They have

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00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: an eight man rotation. I mean, they got a lot

1092
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: of guys active every week and they rotate them through

1093
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: the guys they brought in last year, Mario Addison, Vernon Butler,

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00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Quinton Jefferson, and the money that they have spent on

1095
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: that position group has been pretty exorbitant. Now, I think

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01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: it's the highest position group on the club. Has their

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01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: production matched that kind of outlay of cash. I don't

1098
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: think it has, unfortunately for Buffalo. And I think those

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: guys when you're looking at ways that the Bills can

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: cut some salary, they're sort of right up against that

1101
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: projected salary cap right now with some move that they

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: still need to make to bring the guys back potentially

1103
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: like Daryl Williams, like Matt Malano. So when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at guys who can be released for some salary cap beliefs,

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01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: I think Quentin Jefferson, Brenon Butler, Mario Addison, those they're

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01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: sort of the some of the first names that you're

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01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: going to turn to because there is depth along the

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: defensive line. There are younger guys who they can sort

1109
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: of put into bigger roles, like Epinetta and some other

1110
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: interior defenders. So I think those are probably some of

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: the first names you look to win they're cutting salary.

1112
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Speaker 1: Talking to Pro Football Focus analyst Ben Lindsay here on

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: the show and cornerback number two, this is going to

1114
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: be a bonu contention as well. Past couple of years,

1115
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace as an undrafted player has been able to

1116
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: hold off veterans for that starting job. I mean, it

1117
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: was Kevin Johnson two years ago, it was Josh Norman

1118
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: last year. We're wondering, We're openly wondering here, Ben, that

1119
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: with a tighter cap situation this offseason, if they finally

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Speaker 1: dive into the draft somewhere on the first two days

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Speaker 1: to address that position. Not to mention the fact that

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace is a restricted free agent right now, So

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Speaker 1: what do you think is the best course of action

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: to maybe finally get some competition in here that can

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Speaker 1: unseat a Levi Wallace. If I was the Bills, I

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: would be interested in bringing Levi Wallace back as the

1127
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: restricted free agent and adding a cornerback in the first

1128
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Speaker 1: two days in the draft. I think the secondary it's

1129
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: one of those positions where we've seen you can't have

1130
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: too much depth. Teams have had successful last couple of years,

1131
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: like the Baltimore Ravens they had Jimmy Smith, they add

1132
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey, they add Marcus Peters, they extend Tavon Young

1133
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: m Teams that keep going to the well with the secondary.

1134
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers are another example. You want to have no

1135
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: weak links on the back end because that's where teams

1136
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: take you apart. They find those weak players and they

1137
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: target them. So the Bills bring back Wallace, who has

1138
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: been a solid cornerback two for them the last couple

1139
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: of years. He's graded pretty well for us UM and

1140
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: then going out and adding more competition and more talent

1141
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: helps at a valuable position like cornerbacks. As we move

1142
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: out and get into this draft, it seems we've we've

1143
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: heard reports and we've seen the evidence that this round

1144
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: of free agency around the National Football League is gonna

1145
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: be ugly ugly. Um, if you're thirty years old and

1146
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: you make a good buck, you're gonna be on the street.

1147
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: It looks like unless you're restructuring have when what you know,

1148
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: how do you think this will play out? Certainly at

1149
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: the top the top third of the league that has

1150
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot of cap money to spend, those teams are

1151
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: going to be able to buy some pretty good football

1152
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: players that otherwise would not have been available because of

1153
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: the you know, the chop cap. How do you think

1154
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: this will play out? And do you think it will

1155
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: lead to make maybe out of the fourteen playoff teams,

1156
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: are there going to be like ten new playoff teams.

1157
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a tough offseason for the salary cap.

1158
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: Is that if people and this is going to be

1159
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: the year where it starts to catch up to you

1160
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: if you keep pushing those contracts down the bone or

1161
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: down the road, converting salary caps and designing bonuses. This

1162
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: is the year where where that's going to hurt you.

1163
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: And I do think it's going to create a market

1164
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 1: where teams that do have a lot of cap space

1165
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: to span teams like the Jaguars, like the Jets, they're

1166
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: going to be able to get quality veteran starters on

1167
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: good deals because there's just not going to be as

1168
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: many teams who compete with them in salary cab negotiations.

1169
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: It's not going to be as much money to spend,

1170
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: which is going to create a buyer's market, I think,

1171
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: and it could lead to some situations where teams do

1172
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: take big jumps. I don't think that's a bad shot

1173
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: out at all, and I don't envy you at all. Ben.

1174
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: When you get a sign to do a mock draft

1175
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: before free agency has even happened, that's kind of like

1176
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: putting the card before the horse. But everybody loves mock drafts,

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: so editors demand that guys do it. So I feel

1178
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: your pain on that. But in your mock you went

1179
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: edge rusher for the Bills with Penn States, Jason Oway.

1180
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, for a long time, Bills

1181
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: fans anytime, what a player that at least appears to

1182
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: be a situational pass rusher going early, especially from Penn State,

1183
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: worries people in Bill's Country because they're reminded of Aaron Maybin,

1184
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: who's one of the biggest busts that this team has

1185
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: ever had with a first round pass rusher in its history.

1186
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: So maybe calm the waters for us a little bit

1187
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: and let us know that Jason Away is more than

1188
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: just a situational pass rusher. Yeah, it's I think is

1189
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: more than that. You look at him this past year

1190
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: Ape State, he took a big leap in terms of

1191
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: his run defense greed for us it was almost jumped

1192
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: up to ninety. That's not to say that Oa is

1193
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: a complete prospect at this point. He's not. He still

1194
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: has stuffs he has to work on technically, but he

1195
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: is the type of athlete who teams are really going

1196
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: to covet at the edge defender position. It's not the

1197
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: type of athlete that you're going to find later rounds

1198
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: of the NFL draft. He's a freak outside who can

1199
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: who can get around the corner with his edge or

1200
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: with his speed around the edge with his get off,

1201
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: and I think when you're at that spot at the

1202
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: back end of the first round, you want to be

1203
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: drafting for value. He's a twenty first player on our

1204
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: big board. I think that is good value for Buffalo

1205
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: And you look at the edge defenders on their team.

1206
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is older, Mario Addison's getting up there in

1207
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: age and could be a cap casualty. They drafted up

1208
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: and as the last year but that doesn't mean they

1209
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: can't go back to the well with a guy like

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: Oway who has the tools to really develop into a

1211
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: top flight kind of guy. Yeah. And one of the

1212
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: things we've talked about is, you know, the Bills, with

1213
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: the contract situation they have, they're they're kind of in

1214
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: a positional emergency in that they've got like four offensive

1215
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: linemen that have taken a snap in the in the

1216
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL on their roster. They've got a two

1217
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: or three others, but four of their top six or

1218
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: seven linemen are not under contract from a year ago.

1219
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: If they do want to take an offensive lineman at

1220
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: thirty and say they're going to go interior, what kind

1221
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: of options are going to be there and what kind

1222
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: of player will they get? I think the best option

1223
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: probably that's going to be there is Hyatt Davis from

1224
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State. He's behind Elijah Area Tucker, who played tackle

1225
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: this past year at USC but projects probably more as

1226
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: a guard in the NFL. I think he's going to

1227
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: come off the board before the Bills take at thirty.

1228
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: So then you're looking at guys like White Davis, who

1229
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: physically he has everything you want. He's got some really

1230
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: solid traits in terms of past protection that should help

1231
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: the Bills. And it's it's not a great draft interior

1232
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. It's not super top heavy, but I think

1233
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: why Davis is one of the guys who is worth

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: taking a chance on at the back end of the

1235
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: first round. Ben, we appreciate the time here. Thanks for

1236
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of spelling it out for us here as the

1237
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: off season is getting ready for free agency and then

1238
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: the draft to follow. We appreciate it. We'll look for

1239
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: your stuff on PF dot com going forward. Thanks Thanks Ben, anytime.

1240
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Thanks Agains. All right, that's Ben Lindsay from Pro Football Focus.

1241
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: Does a lot of analysis on PF dot com. You

1242
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: can check some of his work and it's on the

1243
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: free portion of that site. He's been. That's the first

1244
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: time he's been on. Yeah, a lot of people come

1245
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: on occasionally. This first time we've had been. So that's

1246
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, though, anytime anybody who's been a

1247
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: Bills fan for more than ten years, anytime they see

1248
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: a Penn State edge rusher boy getting mocked to the

1249
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: Bills in the first round, they just shudder a little bit. Yeah,

1250
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: because it just elicits memories of of Aaron Maybin, and

1251
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: that's how the you get into trouble. Well, and I

1252
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: gotta say this, I look, I haven't seen enough tape

1253
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: of Jason Oway, but if you look at him on tape,

1254
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: he looks his body type says linebacker. He's like two

1255
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight pounds, and they got him rushing

1256
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: off the edge because he's just faster than most of

1257
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: the tackles in football, right, and he's he wars number

1258
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: twenty eight two, which is kind of funky for for

1259
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: a d lineman. So you kind of kind of like, okay, well, anyway, yeah,

1260
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: that that philosophy, and you think about it. How teams

1261
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: get into trouble when they have a philosophy and they

1262
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: become an exaggeration of the philosophy. Under Dick Giron, this

1263
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: defense and this team was built around speed. The problem

1264
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: is this, when you're building your team around speed, big

1265
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: heavy athletes don't run as fast as smaller athletes. So okay,

1266
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: that's fine, no problem. But still you got a fast

1267
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: team and they're gonna move right. Well, if you get

1268
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: all those guys that are really fast and they start

1269
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,520
Speaker 1: to be lighter and lighter at every even the depth positions.

1270
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. When lighter guys are running fast and

1271
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: running into bigger things, they break and then under big

1272
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: band's game. Under Dick Giron, the Bills had twenty guys

1273
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: a year on IR And it's a function of just

1274
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: playing physics to me, and that was my idea, that

1275
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: was my philosophy. You get light guys running into big

1276
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: guys and getting fallen on by them getting at the

1277
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: bottom of the piles. They just don't they can't all,

1278
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, And it's and it's random. I mean, you gotta,

1279
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, I got my leg. That's what happens.

1280
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't care what era of football you're talking about.

1281
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: You can't have twenty of those guys like fast, smaller guys.

1282
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: You can't have twenty on a roster. You can have

1283
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: two or three, yeah, not twenty. And here's the thing,

1284
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: can't It sounds funny, but it's really true. It's always

1285
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: going to be a big I always came early on

1286
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: the early bus, you know, for a coach. Those guys

1287
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: like to ride on the bus with all the big

1288
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: nasty dudes because when you get off the bus with

1289
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: those guys, it's like, Wow, those guys look like they

1290
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: can play. When I got off the bus, it's like,

1291
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: when's the football team showing up? Right? You just like

1292
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: to be you. It's true, though, you get you need

1293
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: guys that fit the type because there are reasons for it,

1294
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 1: and whether you can quantify them exactly or not, speed

1295
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: and speed and mass make a difference. And the mask

1296
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: really protects you from the speed. You know what I'm saying,

1297
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: And that's I just think that you need guys that

1298
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: can hold up. You stay healthier that way, you hold

1299
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage better. And certainly when you take

1300
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: the field and you're playing against the Chiefs and you

1301
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: get this guy like Tyreek Hill and all these guys

1302
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: can remast, you're starting to think, wow, we got to

1303
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: get poor speed on the field. Well yeah, here's an

1304
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: example just from recent Bill's history. Okay, so the Bills

1305
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: drafted Roscoe Parrish second round two thousand and five draft,

1306
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: who's built like a coat hanger, right, I mean, I

1307
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: wait as much as he did, right, And he was

1308
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: about an inch taller than me. So okay, but I

1309
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: mean the guys that you can't touch him in a

1310
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: phone booth, like he's that elusive like he's an exceptional athlete.

1311
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: That's great, but you better not have more than five

1312
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: of those guys on your roster. You wanna have one

1313
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: who's an exceptionable, who's maybe an exception to the rule. Right, okay,

1314
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: But you can't have eight, ten, twelve of those kinds

1315
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: of guys on your roster because they won't be in

1316
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 1: the lineup every week. They'll all be out on ir

1317
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: or on an injury list and not playing man's game,

1318
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: and it'll never change. Here's the thing too. Back in

1319
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: the day, they used to try to remember when the

1320
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: Houston Orders started running the run and shoot. They were

1321
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: four wide all the time, one back, let's go, And

1322
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: it was a numbers game then like it is now.

1323
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: If you had six in the box, they'd run it.

1324
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: If you had seven in the box, they throw it.

1325
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: And that it was that simple. And the problem was

1326
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: they'd run out there and run all these you couldn't

1327
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: they couldn't go. And maybe this is maybe they didn't

1328
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: know how good they could be. When they'd get these

1329
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: big lead, they'd score points, they could move the football

1330
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: and all that. They had problems in the red zone

1331
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: because they couldn't run the ball well. Enough, and they

1332
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: had problems holding a lead because they couldn't run the

1333
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: ball well enough, They couldn't be as physical as they needed,

1334
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: couldn't shorten the game once they were right because they

1335
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: couldn't run the balls right and unless they had a

1336
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: defense that could man up and do things like you

1337
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 1: know in response to that, they couldn't win. And ultimately

1338
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: they have not. You know, they they were out there

1339
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: now the rest of the leagues coming out of the

1340
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: Bills this year, four wide right, or I'd have a

1341
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: tight end and well now they had four wides, pull

1342
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: a tight end off and put a running back in there.

1343
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: It's getting to that point, and now what are the

1344
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: Bills think this year? I gotta run the ball better.

1345
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a hard thing to It's a

1346
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: hard balance. But you've got to be big enough to

1347
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: stand up to the physical demands of the game, because

1348
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: they catch up to everybody, whether you're fast or not.

1349
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: Quarterback news coming out here in the league, I think

1350
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: Jets GM Joe Douglas had a press conference today. ESPN's

1351
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: Rich Tomini, who covers the Jets, tweeted out this. Joe

1352
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: Douglas says he will quote answer the call if a

1353
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: team inquires about Sam Darnold. Now, I don't think that's

1354
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: any earth shattering news. I think it's pretty well documented

1355
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: that the Jets will at least listen if someone is

1356
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: calling to inquire as to what it might take to

1357
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 1: priye Sam Darnold away from the Jets. There's this ongoing

1358
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: debate in New York as to what the best course

1359
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: of action is for the Jets. They obviously hold the

1360
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: number two pick, and I believe they hold the twenty

1361
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: third pick in round one. They have two firsts and

1362
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: two seconds, and so some are of the opinion that

1363
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: it's time to turn to the page at the quarterback.

1364
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: He got a new coaching staff, start fresh draft the

1365
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: quarterback second. Overall, there are others in the camp that

1366
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: say Sam Darnold never ever got the support he needed,

1367
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: never got the player development he needed under the previous regimes.

1368
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: It's time to try to restart his career and revive

1369
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: it with the current coaching staff in a Mike Shanahan

1370
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: type offense that has been very successful for a lot

1371
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, and surround him with talent by using those

1372
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: four picks in the top sixty picks to fortify the offense,

1373
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: and off you go. Right, it's half of the Jets

1374
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: fan base is not gonna like what they do, and

1375
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: half of the Jets fan base is right. It's it's

1376
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hell of it off season. Down

1377
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 1: in New York. You don't get this high in the drafts. Theoretically,

1378
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to be this high in the draft ever.

1379
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: But you know, with a guy like Darnold, it's twenty three, Steve,

1380
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: you've got to think you can coach that guy and

1381
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: give them some support, like the Jets have not done.

1382
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: And it's easy enough to you know, from over here,

1383
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: we can. It's easy for us to throw throw rocks.

1384
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: We lived in that house for seventeen years. They never

1385
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: gave him an offensive line or a run game that

1386
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: would work. They got went out and spent their money

1387
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: like kids in a candy store rather than you know,

1388
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: a mom shopping for groceries. Right, So that is their

1389
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: first mistake and we'll see if they fix that. I

1390
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: don't know what you feel about him. We've talked about

1391
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: briefly about Darnald. I think you're nuts to throw that

1392
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: guy to the curb unless you've got a proven guy.

1393
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Like if you trade Darnold for Dak Prescott, Okay, that

1394
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of thing, right, But you're all you're doing is

1395
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: restarting the clock if you draft a quarterback, right, you know, right,

1396
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: even if it's Trevor Lawrence. I mean, you're gonna support him.

1397
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: Why didn't you support Sam? Like you're gonna Now everything's different.

1398
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: I just I think Darnold's got a lot to offer.

1399
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. He runs what the football was,

1400
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: got an arm, he's got a live arm. And remember,

1401
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: the only the thing that got him for a lot

1402
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: of people was the fact that he turned it over

1403
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: in college. That was him coming out. He was the guy,

1404
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: except he turned it over a lot at USC And

1405
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of and let's fess up,

1406
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, man, he's the guy. Not

1407
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: it's not Baker, it's not Josh Allen, it's Sam. Darnold

1408
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: is the guy you want because he came from a

1409
01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: big program, played against defenses, and you know, had it all.

1410
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: They ticked all the physical boxes. So I'm I'm I

1411
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: think the Jets are nuts to get rid of that.

1412
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: I'd be inclined to keep him too, as long as

1413
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: you have faith in the player to twenty three. As

1414
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: long as you have faith in the player development abilities

1415
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: of your offensive staff, you keep him and use all

1416
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: those drafts, all that draft capital to build around him. Yeah,

1417
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: and off you go. They got McKay Beckton last year.

1418
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: They started. Okay, they got a left tackle, the guy

1419
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: and the guy. Believe me, folks, the guys. Guy is

1420
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: a house on a football field. He is like you're

1421
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: looking for the I mean today's version of house Ballard.

1422
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: Oh he is by like forty pounds and two inches

1423
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: taller than forty He's huge. So they got that guy

1424
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: left tackle, Get him a couple more guys up front,

1425
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: and man, oh man, do it like, just hand it

1426
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: to a Devin Singletary Zach Moss, a third round draft pick,

1427
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: some guy in the draft. Hand it to him. Give

1428
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: him the guy some help. Oh yeah, I just yeah. Well,

1429
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: it's easy for us to talk about jail man. Man,

1430
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: feel bad for that kid. Break time for us. When

1431
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: we come back. We have a little lunch. It's time

1432
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: for a little what's for lunch? Haven't done that in

1433
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: a while, So stay tuned because we've got some interesting

1434
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,799
Speaker 1: things on the menu there. Some of them quarterback related

1435
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: you'll want to listen to these when we return here

1436
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1438
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: Steve tasted with you as we move into the second

1439
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: half of a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live. And

1440
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: it's time for a little lunch Steve, as we see

1441
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: what is on the menu and then pick accordingly. So

1442
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? Steve? Number one on the menu here?

1443
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Big Ben or Cam Newton as

1444
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterback? I think I know which way you're

1445
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: going here, Big Ben, without question. Yeah, Big Ben on

1446
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: a lot of different levels continuity, throwing ability. It's a

1447
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: throwing league, it's not a running league. Leadership, leadership. Although

1448
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: Cam has been widely praised by the teams, he's played

1449
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: on as being that guy that guys like in the

1450
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: locker rooms, there are a lot of people that think

1451
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up in Washington and reunite with Ron Rivera.

1452
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that though he could. He had the

1453
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: chance to do that last year. I know I think

1454
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: Ron's gonna politely go in a different direction. Than if

1455
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: they do get rid of Alex Smith. I think Cam's

1456
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: a backup somewhere. That tape from last year is damning.

1457
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how he gets a starting job. He

1458
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: really struggled to throw the foot. I mean, maybe he's

1459
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: part of a competition somewhere like where Chicago like maybe,

1460
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 1: but Chicago needs as sure a thing as they can find.

1461
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean and Ryan Pace are fighting for their jobs

1462
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: this year. They need a definitive answer at that position.

1463
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: And if you watch three games of Cam Newton's tape

1464
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: from last year, you're throwing up in your mouth a

1465
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: little and saying no thanks. I mean, they they're gonna

1466
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: think about it. That would be a competition between what

1467
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky, Nick Foles, and Cam n if they're all

1468
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: still on the roster. Trubisky is a free agent, I believe. Yeah,

1469
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: that's that's not a choice. Oh God, you right, you

1470
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: do not want that choice. You got to bring somebody.

1471
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where you sit there and say I'd

1472
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: like to vote for none of the above. Remember that

1473
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: movie Brewster's Millions with Richard Pryor vote for none of them?

1474
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: I got um. I'm with you. You try and you

1475
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: go down the list of teams what they're doing. I mean,

1476
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: you're thinking, like Cam Newton, what is he gonna go

1477
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: to Denver? Now, John Elway wouldn't have no, Um, he's not.

1478
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: She's not John Elway's kind of quarterback, right. Um, Carolina

1479
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Speaker 1: is looking for somebody. I think Carolina is going to

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01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: make a big move for one of those guys that

1481
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: is unhappy. So you think you're going to trade Bridgewater,

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01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: which has been floated about, Yes, um, and then go

1483
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: put all their chips in the middle of the table

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: and try to get Watson or Wilson, Watson, Arnold, Russ.

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01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: Wilson's not going to be available. But Sam Arnold Arnold, Yeah,

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Deshaun Watson, somebody see because I think, because

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this right now the way I see it,

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01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: you and I are you and I neither one. There's

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01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: some guys we really like, like Sam Darnold and other

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01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: guys I'm not too sold on, like Tah. You know

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 1: you might if you if you trade Trady Bridgewater for

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01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: two a Tonguablo, it's your sideways. Yeah, it's it's a

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 1: lateral move. I'm I'm just going down the list and

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01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati set they've got Joe Burrow. The whole AFC

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: West is fine except for Denver. Maybe they want somebody

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: better than Drew Locke, and I get it, But those

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01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: are the teams that are in the in the running

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01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson and if darn if you can pride

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Darnald out of New York, who else is out there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean here, I don't know that. The

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01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: free agent list is not impressive. Marcus Mariota is going

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: to be available. God, it's not good now that the

1503
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz deal went down and Jared Goff the deal

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: went down. I don't I think San Francisco would sit

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: on Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolo before they're going to trade for

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: what Teddy Bridgewater now Sam Darnold. Yeah, but you know

1507
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: in New England still got to find a guy. They're

1508
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: not a position I want to be right now. For

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01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: all the stuff we're sitting around. You know the name

1510
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,799
Speaker 1: I like on all Dak Prescott might is gonna be available.

1511
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: You like Jamis Winston, not as much as Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a think about it, I hear you. You know,

1513
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: none of those other play that is it. Dak Prescott

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: is the only name on that team, on that list

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01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: right there that I would say that's our guy right there.

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's a troubling everybody. All the names

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01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: on that hole, on the whole list, Mitch Drubisky, Cam Newton,

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jacoby Brissette, Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton,

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: CJ Bethard, Joe Flacco. They're all placeholders. Yeah, they're all placeholders.

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: And for some of those people, they're coming from the

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01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: teams that are still looking for their guy, so they

1522
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: can't go to that. They're all go back. Yeah, they're

1523
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: like into purgatory. They are. They got released from the

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01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: teams that are looking for somebody to replace them. It's

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: it's definitely right. Oh my gosh. Here's another one. Richard

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01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: Sherman would or would not be a good offseason target

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills. We've seen them do this before. Steve

1528
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: pull in a veteran on a one year deal for

1529
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: modest money. I don't I don't know about you, but

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01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good idea. Why I

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01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: don't think he's taken a one year deal? Number One, Well,

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01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: if they can get him, so you're gonna have to

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: make a bigger commitment. Is he a thumbs up a

1534
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: thumbs down guy, I'd rather go find a young guy

1535
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: in the draft on the first two days and go

1536
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: that route. You've tried this veteran free agent thing the

1537
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: last three years. It hasn't worked. It has worked, has it? Yes,

1538
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: not that the guys come in and play. It hasn't

1539
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: left you with a better option. End up with Levi

1540
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Wallace out there, who I think as much as we

1541
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: love Levi, he is kind of limited in the kind

1542
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: of defense he can play at that position. He is

1543
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: not a universal scheme corner. Here's why I think that

1544
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: strategy has worked. Levi has never had a chance to

1545
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: sit down and take a deep breath. He's been playing

1546
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: and competing for a job. And the guys that they

1547
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: have brought in have been quality. Got Josh Norman in particular,

1548
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: what a great guy. And I'll tell you what I'm

1549
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: all about. Richard Sherman. That's that's a guy that makes

1550
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: other guys better. Yeah, this guy, he is a He

1551
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: is a standard setter for your whole room. That's a

1552
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: guy of the ilk that Sean McDermott wants in every

1553
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: room in his building, say, entering age thirty two season.

1554
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: We saw Josh Norman and the injury problems that cropped

1555
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: up for him in his age thirty two season. Richard

1556
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: Sherman missed some time in his age thirty one season

1557
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: last year. So that's got to be ironed out because

1558
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I think it's clear he's not what he once was.

1559
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: No who neither was Josh Norman, And I get that,

1560
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have a problem doing the thing again

1561
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: with Richard Sherman. Great a ton. That guy, even more

1562
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: so than Josh Norman, has a boatload of credibility for

1563
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: how to do it right, how to prepare the attitude

1564
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: you have, how dog guy weekend week act? Yes, Um,

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01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: so I'd say, yeah, that's a that's a guy that

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01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: you want in the building just to let you know,

1567
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: like Kim cam Lewis, see how he works. Yeah, can't

1568
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: watch that guy do that? All right? You know that?

1569
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I think? So? I think, yeah, anytime you can add

1570
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: a guy of his attitude, I just know these experience,

1571
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: I just know it's going to cost more than it

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01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: has in recent years to fill that hole. All Right,

1573
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: we have to take five million year, five million for

1574
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: one year. You're not getting Sherman on that. You don't

1575
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: think so he's better than that. Well, yes, I would agree.

1576
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: He's better than Josh Norman. I don't think there's any question.

1577
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: But the investment's gonna have to be higher, and it's

1578
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to be more than one year or two. Um,

1579
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break, But Jeff

1580
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: and Albany Norman Alden, hang tight. We'll get to you

1581
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: when we return. As we are asking you to put

1582
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: your GM hat on today and let us know what

1583
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: level of commitment you would make to making the tight

1584
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: end position better. Back with your phone calls next year.

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01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: On One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

1586
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One bill Is Live. Steve,

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,799
Speaker 1: it looks like it's long snappers signing day in the NFL.

1588
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Two free agent long snappers have resigned with their clubs,

1589
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders signing Trendside their long snapper to a three

1590
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: year extension, Cincinnati signing their long snapper Clark Harris to

1591
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: a one year contract extensions. So busy day for the

1592
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: long snappers in the league and that's right, and it's

1593
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: kind of weird how that happens. But also there was

1594
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: this just coming off Twitter about Albert Carriers tweeting, which

1595
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: is kind of cool because the Bills, he says, reported

1596
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: by Albert Brier, the Bills have submitted a rules changed

1597
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: proposals to the National Football League that would bar interviews

1598
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: for front office and coaching positions until after the conference

1599
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: title games and hirings until after the Super Bowl. The

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01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: owners might vote on this is on this offseason. That

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01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: would be, as he says, a big change. Owners meetings

1602
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: are scheduled for the end of March March thirtieth and

1603
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: thirty first. They will be conducted virtually, but that will

1604
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: presumably be discussed unless it's tabled. I think also that

1605
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: means they can't interview anybody anybody until after the conference

1606
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: titles games, and it can't hire anybody soil for the

1607
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So that means teams would hang on to

1608
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: their head coaches throughout the regular season and through the playoffs,

1609
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: they wouldn't fire them and be without a guy during

1610
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: that interview. I think that would it would force teams,

1611
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: or at least incentivize teams to wait until the end

1612
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: of the regular season to fire guys. Yeah, which usually

1613
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: is the case in most cases, you know, Black Monday

1614
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: and all that, right, which is fine, But it would

1615
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 1: also give teams, and I think it would force teams

1616
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: to like take a deep Brokay, we're gonna make this change.

1617
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: What's the first step. Let's get a Let's get a

1618
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, somebody in here to Let's start looking at

1619
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: people and look at likely candidates. Get our ducks in

1620
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: a row. Before were just like, go, Okay, call that guy,

1621
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: call that guy, called that guy. Let's get him in

1622
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: here fast as we can and hire them before somebody else.

1623
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Does you know what I mean. I think it really

1624
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: is a good idea. I like it a lot. Yeah,

1625
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: And that's reasonable seeing that you know, I don't know,

1626
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it's reasonable because you have that two week window between

1627
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: the conference title games and the super Bowl, so you

1628
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 1: could use that first week to do all the interviewing

1629
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: that you need to do on the on the Super

1630
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: Bowl staffs, right, if they're on the Super Bowl staff,

1631
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: right or yeah, or any staff. And that's the thing too.

1632
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: If this would probably I would, I would think, and

1633
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: no team the way it said you can't interview anybody right, anybody. Yeah,

1634
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if it gets some legs

1635
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: and some momentum and some support. Let's get back to

1636
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: the phones. We go to Jeff in Albany. Jeff, you're

1637
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. What do you have for us?

1638
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: And I think it's important that we get a tight

1639
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: end and spend the money. So what are you looking for?

1640
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: You want you're shooting for the moon or you're just

1641
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: trying to get a guy that maybe can put a

1642
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: veteran presence at the position at chew for the moon.

1643
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: Look when we had mckeller, look what he'd done. He

1644
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: was named after the k gun or vice versa. Yeah,

1645
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I kind of do remember that. Yeah, I mean yeah,

1646
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: and I and teams that have those guys on the

1647
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 1: best guys like George Kittle and like Kelse, Travis Kelsey,

1648
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: those teams are kind of thought highly of in the

1649
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl conversation quite a bit. Now, certainly that both

1650
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: those guys got injuries and San Francisco got injured away

1651
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: from their, you know, from their best chance to make it.

1652
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: But when those guys are healthy and their teams are healthy,

1653
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: those teams with the best tight ends seem to be

1654
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs a lot. We saw it with Gronkowski

1655
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of years. We saw it with George

1656
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 1: Kittle with San Francisco. We've seen it with Travis Kelsey.

1657
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like if you've got one, the

1658
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: other happens. I don't know if it's that simple. I

1659
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of doubt that it is, but I get it.

1660
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: People are tired of not having one of those guys. Yeah,

1661
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: it's like, let's and I think doubly is Bills fans

1662
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: are tired of seeing other tight ends run all over

1663
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: this team, which they've done with a great degree of

1664
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: success over the last handful of years, well probably even

1665
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: longer than that, all the years that Grant punished this

1666
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: team every time he played him, and you know, other

1667
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: tight ends with high end ability, they've proven tough to stop.

1668
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just the Bills that they're running

1669
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: all over. They do it to everybody. Kelsey does it

1670
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: to everybody. So be nice to have a guy on

1671
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: your side. It would be you know, and I'm yeah,

1672
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm say it again. I'm I'm really anxious to see

1673
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox to take the field this year. Yeah. I

1674
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna take that big a leap.

1675
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I think he'll get better and a little better from

1676
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: what he was a year ago. Is going to be

1677
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: really good. We'll have a conversation about Dawson Knox because

1678
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: we know that drops were a problem for him in

1679
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: his rookie year. I found some interesting stuff about his

1680
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: catch rate in his first two years that we'll get

1681
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: into in the third hour of the show, because I

1682
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: want to get back to the phones to get to

1683
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Norm and Alden. Norm, what do you have for us?

1684
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live, Chris and Steve, great job,

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Speaker 1: love the show. Thanks. I have a comment. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're gonna like or the fans are gonna like,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, this style with Coolie that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring back. He quit on his team. Yeah, he took

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Speaker 1: a walk off. Okay, so you've got all these Bills

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Speaker 1: players that are playing through the grunt, they're playing through

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Speaker 1: all this COVID stuff. This guy decides to take the

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Speaker 1: year off, and now they're gonna bring this guy back.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that in the private and public sector

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Speaker 1: that if you take off, you've got to use PTO

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01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: type to get paid. I just don't get I do

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Speaker 1: not understand why to bring this guy back. I don't

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Speaker 1: care how good he is. I don't care if he's

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt. And then you look at all the good

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Speaker 1: players that have played in this league that went through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the Patriots, what they had seven people that were

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Speaker 1: opted out? Yeah, yeah that opted out. I totally I've

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Speaker 1: played sports at a very good level. I totally disagree

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Speaker 1: with this. So all right, thanks for taking my call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my problem, norm, I mean, it was negotiated by the

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Speaker 1: league in the players association, where this opportunity was afforded

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Speaker 1: to the players. They had to have their decision in

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Speaker 1: by a certain point in time, and there was no

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Speaker 1: going back on it. Right. Once you're out, you're out.

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01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: There's no comebacks, and there's no opt outs later in

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Speaker 1: the season by anybody who chose not to make that

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Speaker 1: decision before the deadline, so you were either in or

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Speaker 1: you were out. He chose to be out. The general

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Speaker 1: feedback that we got from the players was they understood it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the heavier players in the league were

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Speaker 1: the ones that opted out the most, because being overweight,

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Speaker 1: you are at greater risk because it's a respiratory disease.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a big dude, you got an extra

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Speaker 1: fifty pounds sitting on your chest. Try breathing with coronavirus. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's not easy, So you get it. But Steve, the

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Speaker 1: thing I want to ask you is, you know, being

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Speaker 1: having been a player in a locker room and this

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Speaker 1: is apples and oranges, probably to a great degree, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you kind of lived through some the eighty

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Speaker 1: seven strike year and guys that crossed the line, it

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Speaker 1: was hard to get them back, and was it hard

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Speaker 1: to get them back in the locker room or accept them?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't long term guys on the roster anyway,

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious if there were similar hard feelings there,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, a little bit. They're a little more hard

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Speaker 1: feelings towards the guys who actually did play. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: that was a little bit worse. But for this, for

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Speaker 1: this thing, and I get norm, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: They were given this choice and some guys took it.

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Speaker 1: It was it was negotiated by the players, not and

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Speaker 1: with the owners. So the players were all about giving

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Speaker 1: the players this choice and knowing full well, particularly six

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Speaker 1: or seven eight months ago, how you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a different climate in which we lived. So while I

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Speaker 1: get what you're saying, I would venture to say not

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Speaker 1: a single guy in the locker room feels like star

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Speaker 1: lutula quit. I don't think anybody feels that way. And

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Speaker 1: that was You may think that, Norm, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I respect your opinion, but I don't share it. I

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01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: don't think anybody gives it a second thought that a

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Speaker 1: guy opted out for whatever reason. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: didn't have to give personal time off. He that was

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Speaker 1: not an option that he had to do. He didn't

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Speaker 1: have to make that um that decision. So for whatever

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Speaker 1: it is in the private sector and the public say,

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01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't apply to what has been negotiated by a

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Speaker 1: workers union with management, and that's what happened in this case.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure there were times when Starr

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Speaker 1: wishes he was on that team, But once he made

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Speaker 1: the decision, and he probably did it with the thought

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Speaker 1: of his family and his own personal health in mind,

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Speaker 1: he had to stick. He had to live with it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I respect your opinion, Norm, I just

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Speaker 1: don't share it. I don't think anybody in that locker

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Speaker 1: room for the bills gave it a second thought, particularly

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Speaker 1: once they got their roster set and they started plowing

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Speaker 1: through the schedule like the full speed ahead. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. But when we come back,

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Speaker 1: our number three of the program includes your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to way in on the tight

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Speaker 1: end commitment you think the Bills should make in their

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Speaker 1: offseason plans, let us know. We're also going to get

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Speaker 1: back to some of your comments on the tweet sheets,

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Speaker 1: so if you need to file them there, do it

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. Steve and I back for hour

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Speaker 1: number three with your phone calls in a sec. Here

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, Radiolow Bills Radio Network, Sports Date your sports

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Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. The tight end market could

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Speaker 1: be an interesting one for the Bills in free agency.

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Speaker 1: A big name was added to that list on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: as the Minnesota Vikings really his veteran tight end Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: Rudolph still had three more years left on his four year,

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Speaker 1: thirty six million dollar contract that he's signed before the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. That the Vikings will save five million

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Speaker 1: in cap space by cutting him with the start of

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Speaker 1: the new league year a little over two weeks away.

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Speaker 1: The Saints are starting to explore new avenues to find

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Speaker 1: room under their salary cap. They are way over right now.

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Speaker 1: They've had trade conversations about possibly dealing defensive tackle Malcolm Brown.

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Speaker 1: The trade involving Brown would save the Saints about five

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Speaker 1: million in cap space. Brown has appeared in twenty nine

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Speaker 1: games with the Saints in his first two seasons in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans after making the move from New England. In

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Speaker 1: a cost cutting move, the Jets released veteran defensive end

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Speaker 1: Henry Anderson, started twenty four games for them over the

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Speaker 1: last three seasons. Anderson was a key player in their

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Speaker 1: defensive line rotation. Cowboys want to get a long term

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Speaker 1: deal completed with Dak Prescott, and reports are that the

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Speaker 1: two sides are finally making progress. They're trying to get

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Speaker 1: something done before the March ninth franchise tag deadline. Dallas

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Speaker 1: Morning News reporting Prescott's representation and the Cowboys discussions are

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Speaker 1: more productive than they have been. Of course, placing the

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Speaker 1: tag on Prescott would result in the thirty seven point

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Speaker 1: seven million dollar cap hit for the Cowboys and the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers fell behind early in the first period against

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Speaker 1: the Rangers and never recovered, falling three to two. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Sam Reinhardt Tobias readers scored for the Sabers. Next up

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo, they stay on the road as they make

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Speaker 1: the short trip out to the Island to face the

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Speaker 1: Islanders on Thursday night, opening a three game series. That

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Speaker 1: is your sports update from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you our number three of the program,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Seneca Studios in Orchard Park at

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Speaker 1: One Bills Drive, and we are discussing the commitment you,

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Speaker 1: as Bills GM for the day, are willing to make

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Speaker 1: at the tight end position. I think we can all

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Speaker 1: agree that the offensive line and the defensive line will

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Speaker 1: get the bulk of the attention from the Bill's front

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Speaker 1: office early this offseason. So where does that leave you

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Speaker 1: in terms of commitment to upgrading the tight end position?

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty in the number to

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Speaker 1: get on board one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We have an open line for you there. Your choices

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Speaker 1: are on the Twitter poll at One Bills Live. Spend

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Speaker 1: for a starter, get an affordable free agent or draft one,

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Speaker 1: and Steve, I did want to discuss with you the

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Speaker 1: interesting thing that I found regarding Dawson Knox's stats. I

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Speaker 1: know both you and I are very eager to see

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Speaker 1: what he can bring to the field in year three,

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Speaker 1: which could very well be a make or break year

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Speaker 1: for him. I think we were both encouraged by what

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01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: we saw down the stretch from him. But the guy

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Speaker 1: was not a primary option in this offense, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think he will be again this year because he's

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Speaker 1: gotta be like four, right. He got ten percent of

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Speaker 1: the target chair last season. Ten percent, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you expect him to have like

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Speaker 1: a forty or fifty catch season when he's ten percent

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Speaker 1: of the target. Had some injury problems, Yes, had a

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Speaker 1: COVID list, had a calf and then a COVID list

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Speaker 1: time as well correct, So he was in and out

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Speaker 1: of the lineup, and it started in fits and starts.

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Speaker 1: I think here's here's my positive spin on Dawson Knox.

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: He got when he played and was healthy. He played

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Speaker 1: better than he did his rookie season. He caught the

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Speaker 1: ball to consistently. He still is really good at run

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Speaker 1: after the catch, Certainly there were a couple bunch of

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Speaker 1: times where particularly in Matt Barkley game in Week seventeen

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Speaker 1: and some other times during the season where the ball

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01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: was just out of reach he couldn't pull it in

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, And I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: you know, as as much on him or whatever you

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Speaker 1: were we were talking. He had the touchdowns, so he

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Speaker 1: caught this only seven touchdowns. I think he said, oh,

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Speaker 1: that was Gave Gave Davis had seven. He had he

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Speaker 1: had three last three, and he also had a bunch

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Speaker 1: that were called back. He would have been a much

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01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: better option had uh, you know, all the touchdowns he

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Speaker 1: caught counted. Having said that, with the with the injury

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Speaker 1: he had he suffered with COVID relief and all of that,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you know, he just didn't get

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Speaker 1: as much opportunities other teams, other players, I think there's

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01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 1: room for him not only to get off to a

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Speaker 1: faster start this year, but to be integrated into the

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Speaker 1: offense a bigger way. And if he's got the kind

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Speaker 1: of mindset that he needs having with Sean McDermot and

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and still in these guys, I think

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Speaker 1: the guy has a chance to come in and be

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Speaker 1: a factor in an offense that is really good already. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think we would say that he did have some

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Speaker 1: issues with drops his rookie year. His catch rate in

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Speaker 1: his rookie season was fifty six percent. That is low.

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Speaker 1: His catch rate last year was fifty five point eight.

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Speaker 1: It was a hair under what it was in year one.

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Speaker 1: But you seem to be of the belief that Paul

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Speaker 1: location was an issue at times for him. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had a he had a game, he had a couple

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Speaker 1: of maybe he only got like four targets a game

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Speaker 1: on average forty four targets and he average James Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any average just over two catches a game. So that's

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Speaker 1: a rough season for a tight end in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: and I think especially one of the athletic caliber of

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Speaker 1: a Dawson Knox. He's not going to get the opportunities

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Speaker 1: that Travis Kelsey is because you got Steph Diggs on

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01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: the fields, you got Cole Beasley on the field, and

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Speaker 1: he got Gabe Davis on the field and John Brown

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Speaker 1: on the field. And you know when when Dawson Knox

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01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: is out there, he's at least at best the third

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01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: option unless they're in the red zone. So so let's

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Speaker 1: spend this conversation another way here, Steve, because I think

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01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: we can all agree even if John Brown is not

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01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: here next season because of his exorbitant cap figure and

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, there's a difficult decision that has to

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Speaker 1: be made there, Let's just assume, hypothetically John Brown is

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Speaker 1: not here for the twenty twenty one season, Dawson Knox

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Speaker 1: is still the fourth option in this offense? Is he

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Speaker 1: not in the passing game? Third? At least? Yeah, he's fourth.

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Speaker 1: He's behind Gabe Davis in my book, So what can

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Speaker 1: you realistically expect to get him into a bigger playmaking role?

1895
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if John Brown. Maybe if John Brown's

1896
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,839
Speaker 1: not here, maybe you're four wide lesson you're eleven person elmore,

1897
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: and maybe he gets more opportunities. He's not going from

1898
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: forty four targets to seventy five. He might be going

1899
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: forty four targets to fifty five. That enough to make

1900
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: a difference, I don't know. And then that begs the

1901
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: question this commitment we're talking about to upgrading the tight

1902
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: end position, is it worth doing that? There are balls

1903
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: to go around. Who are you going to bring in.

1904
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, You bring in a guy

1905
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: like a John who Smith or Hunter Henry or zach Ertz.

1906
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: So how many of Steph Digg's targets are you going

1907
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: to take away from him to give to one of

1908
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 1: those guys? Right? Like? What caliber of player has to

1909
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: come in here to demand more of the target share? Yeah,

1910
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: you gotta have a pretty big name guy, yeah, because

1911
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: you're not taking targets away from the guy that just

1912
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 1: led the league in receptions and receiving yards, are you.

1913
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: Here's the thing we're talking about this and we start

1914
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 1: getting down to the nitty gritties of it. The Bills

1915
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 1: lit it up on offense year. It ain't broke right,

1916
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: so ain't must fix right? Right? So do you need

1917
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: to address the tight end position in the way that

1918
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: we've set Brandon being described. We started the whole thing

1919
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: off by saying, listen, we know that the you know

1920
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: that there are other concerns that the tight end. We

1921
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: started the whole thing off by with that qualifier. So

1922
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: we are a little bit into the weeds. But this

1923
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: offense was rocking last year. I mean they were humming

1924
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: along and it was a scoring they were they were

1925
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: lightning people fun. It was so fun. They have fifty

1926
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,600
Speaker 1: six on the Dolphins, forty six on the on the Broncos,

1927
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: thirty nine on the Patriots. Let's go right. So we're

1928
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to think how how they could play it.

1929
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: Listen and ain't broke. You don't have to reinvent it,

1930
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: just like you know they said, you know were you know,

1931
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,799
Speaker 1: you gotta run the ball. You don't have to reinvent anything.

1932
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: You gotta have a tight end because a tight end

1933
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: is not gonna beat Pat Mahomes. A tight end is

1934
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 1: not gonna you know. Don't worry about all that. Just

1935
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: get the best guys on the fields you can and

1936
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: use them wherever you can, and you're gonna win a

1937
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of games because you got the right guy pulled

1938
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 1: on the trigger. You got enough skill position guys there.

1939
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: You got to find guys to move the line of

1940
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 1: scrimmage and dominate that. If you dominate the line of

1941
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: scrimmage on both sides of the ball, this team could

1942
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: match a thirteen win season from a year ago easily.

1943
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the tweet sheet to hear what

1944
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: you have to say about this. Brought to you by

1945
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

1946
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Nick says, I do believe Dawson Knox will

1947
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 1: be better this year, but I'd love to see a

1948
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: proven free agent to play as well for some insurance.

1949
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: If Knox does not improve as we expect, and that's

1950
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: a big if because he marginally improved in year two,

1951
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: you'd expect him to take another step in year three.

1952
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: And if it's a breakout season like Josh Allen had

1953
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: in year three, all the better. It's gravy like most

1954
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: players do have on the third season. So yeah, the

1955
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: question is what is a proven free agent? Like? What

1956
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: does what does that mean to Nick? In terms of,

1957
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, a proven player? Is it a zach Ertz

1958
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: who's going to command a sizeable salary. Is it a

1959
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,600
Speaker 1: John who Smith who's ready to brank to break the

1960
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: bank on a second contract. I mean that guy's had

1961
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, forty plus catch seasons and a run first offense.

1962
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Can you imagine him in this offense? John hu Smith, right,

1963
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: he catched fifty sixty balls easy. If he's talking, he's right.

1964
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens. You've got to have some guys

1965
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: down the line. I mean Tyler Croft was a very

1966
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: good alternative to Dawson Knox. They're built the same, they

1967
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: run a little bit the same Um Knox problem. I mean,

1968
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft probably catches the ball better than the Knox

1969
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: at this point of his career. But um, you know,

1970
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: not the athlete. The Knox is just a great athlete.

1971
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: He's he's got some gifts and I think that's his

1972
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: that's what he brings to the table. Um. So while

1973
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: we can talk about this, you know that there's going

1974
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: to be at least a half a dozen tight ends

1975
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: on this roster when the camp, when training camp rolls around. Yeah,

1976
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: and because of that, they'll pick the four best probably

1977
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: to hang around. It looks like they're they're doing away

1978
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: with the fullback. We saw that last year with Pat

1979
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: DeMarco being let go because they saw in training and

1980
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: this is something too. We didn't see it. The fans

1981
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: didn't see it. We didn't get a chance to look

1982
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:22,440
Speaker 1: at it. But in training camp, this roster demanded, demanded

1983
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: that they'd do away with a fullback spot. They're going

1984
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 1: four wides and they're not going to have any room

1985
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 1: for a Pat DeMarco on the roster and That's what happened,

1986
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: and they went with it, and it turned into a

1987
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: thirteen win season in a trip the AFC Championship Game.

1988
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 1: They made all the right moves in that respect. Don't

1989
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 1: know what that means coming forward to this year and

1990
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: how that's gonna what decisions we're gonna see or not

1991
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: get a chance to see in training camp, but there'll

1992
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: be some more like that. We don't know what this

1993
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,719
Speaker 1: team's gonna look like, but I know this, they're gonna

1994
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: have to They're gonna have to fill out their roster

1995
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 1: with some guys and if and I think this coaching

1996
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: staff has a lot of hope and a lot of

1997
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: faith in Dawson Knox from Randy tight End, takes time

1998
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: to develop. If there is a decent, affordable free agent option,

1999
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I believe that's the preferred way to go. And that's

2000
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: the way I'd like to go too. I mean, we

2001
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: know that Lee Smith is contemplating retirement. He said as much.

2002
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 1: If he retires, I'd like to find, you know, a

2003
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: veteran player who is you know, got a reliable resume,

2004
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 1: has been there before, can maybe give you a little

2005
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: bit in the blocking game. Especially if Smith retires and

2006
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Hopefully Dawson Knox takes off, but if not, at least

2007
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 1: you got a guy who can plug it. He can

2008
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 1: help you. Maybe not to the athletic degree that Knox

2009
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: can in terms of being a mismatch, but at least

2010
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: you have someone to turn to there. That's kind of

2011
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: how I see the tight end position with respect to

2012
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: free agent. You need a little bit, a little bit

2013
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 1: like the Bills do their running back position. You need

2014
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 1: two guys that look a lot and act a lot alike.

2015
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: You know, the running styles and everything. It may be

2016
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: a little different, but Croft and Knox we're a little

2017
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: bit like the same guy. It wasn't a John U.

2018
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Smith and Dawson Knox, or Lee Smith and Dawson Knox.

2019
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: It was you know, those top two guys are the same.

2020
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: I think if they brought John U. Smith in it

2021
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 1: would be different. Yes, And that's a guy that could

2022
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: catch fifty sixty balls and really help you. I mean

2023
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: that that guy in a run first offense. That guy

2024
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: had career highs last year in receptions receiving yards and

2025
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:36,679
Speaker 1: had eight touchdowns. But he's gonna he's gonna get big money.

2026
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are going to invest to

2027
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 1: that degree at that position, Tiffany kind of echoes some

2028
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: of what we've said. Let's go with affordable free agent

2029
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: to back up Dawson Knox. I believe he still has

2030
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: room to improve, and I wouldn't give up on him

2031
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: just yet. In my opinion, he was really hitting his

2032
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: stride the last quarter of the season. Josh says, if

2033
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: a Kyle Rudolph or the like is available at the

2034
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: right price, kick the tires and see. Do I think

2035
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 1: our offense is driven through the tight end position? Absolutely not.

2036
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: Is the strong middle of the field presence needed. Absolutely Yes.

2037
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: They can help grow Knox into what he can become.

2038
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: It's surprisingly logical and well filled the very well thought

2039
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: out points, right, Josh, He's right. You do need a

2040
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: guy that is going to threaten the middle linebacker down

2041
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,879
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and make him care. Somebody's

2042
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: got to carry that tighten down the middle of the

2043
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: field because he's too big. I'll take you back to

2044
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: a couple of plays in the New England game. Dawson

2045
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 1: Knox made a couple of very nondescript catches that you

2046
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: never kind of remember them. They were tough catches. One

2047
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: of them gotten tipped and he still caught it in

2048
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: the midst of that game before got out of hand,

2049
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 1: and they were crucial and he was headed right down

2050
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: between the hash marks or just outside the hash marks

2051
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: on the left with the second one, and they were

2052
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: crucial catches, not alone. And I remember he's also the

2053
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: guy that made the catch on the sidelines of the

2054
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 1: that led to the Bill Belichick thrown on the phone

2055
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: right after halftime. He's got that in him. He's got

2056
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: that in him. And I think a team when you

2057
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 1: get out on the field, and the New England Patriots

2058
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: are a perfect example. And you think back to two

2059
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: years ago in the playoffs in Houston, defenses will say, okay,

2060
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: he'll they'll tell Josh Allen where he's got to go

2061
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 1: with the football. He'll go to the guy in the

2062
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 1: matchup in the Houston game two years ago and the playoffs,

2063
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 1: remember it was it was Duke Williams. He had ten targets.

2064
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Because the defense of the Texas were saying, listen, if

2065
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 1: you can beat us with Duke Williams, god bless you.

2066
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: Well they almost did last year in that New England game.

2067
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: New England was like going, we don't think you throw

2068
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: to that guy, were like four targets a game. Let's

2069
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: see you give him ten targets a game, more opportunities.

2070
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox made three catches that broke their spirit, one

2071
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 1: right after halftime, the other two coming right down the

2072
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 1: middle of the field. You gotta have a guy can

2073
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 1: depend on when he gets one target this week, three

2074
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: targets next week, two targets the week after, and then

2075
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: eight targets, and you've got to have him. That's why

2076
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: I that's why I see if the Bills, if they

2077
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: do anything at the tight end position, it's a player

2078
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: that is an insurance policy in case Dawson Knox experiences

2079
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: next year some of what he dealt with this year.

2080
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, an injury out for a few weeks, you

2081
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 1: have an insurance policy there to fill the role. Maybe

2082
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: not quite to the degree that Knox can athletically, but

2083
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: is a dependable player that can get you through a

2084
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: couple of games if you don't have Knox that you're

2085
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: just supposed to this and then give Knox the reps

2086
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: to grow right. The Bills have been as healthy a

2087
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 1: football team as there has been in the league over

2088
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and Oh, yeah, that was

2089
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 1: great and so yeah, we were just watching the Bill

2090
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,600
Speaker 1: Bullet Chick phones, so the Bill, they're as healthy as

2091
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: they've been. What happens if Cole Beasley twists an ankle

2092
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: and Steph Diggs pulls a hamstring, somebody's got to pick

2093
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: up the slack, and that means everybody, your tight end, You're,

2094
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, John Brown, whoever's left on the field has

2095
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: got to pick up the slack. And you need them

2096
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to be able to win matchups. So it's not like

2097
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: they can just put anybody out there and say, well,

2098
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: when you know, we're never gonna need that guy to

2099
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 1: catch passes anyway, and he'll be good enough if we

2100
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: need him in a pinch. You gotta have guys that

2101
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: can win. You can win with when you're not you

2102
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: don't have the rest of your guys, or when the

2103
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: rest of your guys are not there or being taken away.

2104
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: So don't it's not unimportant to have a guy like

2105
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox who can in a pinch like he did

2106
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Speaker 1: in the New England game, like he did in the

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01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: Denver game. At the end of the season, come out

2108
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, if you need me, I'm

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01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: here he was. He had some opportunities. Even in Week

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01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: seventeen with Matt Barkley. I thought, I said this yesterday.

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: You know, Isaiah McKenzie was the guy in that Week

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01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: seventeen with three touchdowns in that kind of thing. Also,

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01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox was a guy they threw the ball at

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01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: him a lot in that game. And and like I said,

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01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: Barkley just put like three passes off his fingertips. He

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01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: couldn't pull it in. So I think in pinches they

2117
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: know he's a guy that can use those opportunities. I

2118
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: think I think it's on on the plate for him

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01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: this coming season to get those opportunities. Jeremy says affordable

2120
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: free agent is the only smart choice. Josh broke franchise records.

2121
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: With what we have now, we need to upgrade the

2122
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: offensive line to improve the run game, to make the

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01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: team more dynamic, and that will give our chances of

2124
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: tight end play improving. Rachel says, nothing more than a

2125
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: late draft pick or a cheap free agent. I don't

2126
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: think tight end is a position and knee Josh already

2127
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: has plenty of targets in the past game, and I

2128
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: don't see a new tight end significantly improving our run game.

2129
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: Knox is competent and we don't need more than that

2130
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: right now. Jack has a different opinion, he says, who

2131
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 1: says it's not a top priority, I think being made

2132
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 1: it a point that they need to get more from

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01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: the tight end position. During his season ending pressor, he

2134
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: said similar things about wide receiver the year before and

2135
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: went out to get digs. I think they'll address it

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01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: and go get a guy who can at least push

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01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: to start. It all depends on the price tag. Yeah,

2138
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: it's this, This is all in the backdrop of a

2139
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar chop in the salary cap. Well, right,

2140
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 1: but if you if you buide your time right, hold

2141
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: your water and the market goes soft, that's when the

2142
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: Bills can strike and maybe get a really good value

2143
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: at the tight end position, even as cash strapped as

2144
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: they are with the restrictive I think that's the real

2145
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: critical You really have to be strategic though. That's the

2146
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: real critical question. How are the Bills going to spend it?

2147
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: And when are they gonna I think you're right. I

2148
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: think it's going to be in the second or third week,

2149
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, way late in free agency, before the draft.

2150
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna make guys way, They're gonna hold their water,

2151
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be patient. They'll keep the phone lines open,

2152
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: they'll talk to agents and the representations to stay up

2153
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: to snuff, to make sure nobody gets signed out from

2154
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 1: underneath him. But I think they just wait until a

2155
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: player says, until a player just says he I'll take that.

2156
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll take that deal. Buffalo Bill's read it says draft one.

2157
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 1: Don't forget we have Tommy Sweeney exclamation point. Patrick says,

2158
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: I believe we have the talent at tight end on

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01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: the roster already, so grabbing one in the draft is

2160
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 1: an option. But I'm hoping to get a couple of

2161
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: diamonds in the rough on the offensive line to fill

2162
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: some needs and concerns. But if a tight end is

2163
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 1: the best player on the board when we pick and

2164
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 1: take them for the future, yeah, it's interesting there. Knox

2165
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: has got one another year on his rookie contract, and

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01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe he's one of those guys who you let test

2167
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: the market next year, and you've got a guy behind him.

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01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Tommy Sweeney, maybe it's somebody we don't know. Yeah,

2169
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna be better quicker swee. He's kind of a

2170
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: jack of all trades. He can do a little bit

2171
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 1: of everything for you. Not the athlete that knocks is,

2172
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: but not terribly far off. He's a short to intermediate

2173
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: and he's also he's also as tall as a tree. Yeah,

2174
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: and he's really he's a big dude. But reliable pass

2175
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: catcher too, But like you say, he's he's not elite

2176
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: in any field stretcher. He's good at everything. Yeah, he's

2177
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 1: You could, and I don't know, you could leave him

2178
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: on the field all the time if he was, if

2179
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 1: you got in that spot right, and he'd give you

2180
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: about the same production in every aspect of the game, blocking,

2181
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: pass catching, route running. Yeah, he's a he's a steady

2182
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: all around presence. Not a guy that's gonna pop your

2183
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: eyes out of your head, but relatively dependable for a

2184
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 1: young player. But he's dealing with a medical conditions. Where

2185
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 1: does that go, right, He's one of those guys. He'll

2186
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: be better against bad players, right for a seventh round

2187
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 1: draft joy as you could do a lot worse than

2188
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney. I'll say that. I think so too. I

2189
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: think you know the fact that he's still here says

2190
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: something about what they see in him and his potential,

2191
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can tap into that. And

2192
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: you're right that the COVID side effects are still a

2193
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 1: concern with him. So those are your comments on the

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01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We have to take a break, but when

2195
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: we come back, it is time for some NFL True falls.

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01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 1: Steve and I will tackle that when we return here

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01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's

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01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, Ris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on

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01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 1: a Wednesday here on One Bills Live. We are going

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01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 1: to get to NFL True Falls soon enough, but we

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01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 1: had this on the docket. I almost forgot to get

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01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 1: to it, Steve, so I'm glad I remember it as

2203
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: I spotted it on my timeline here as we're preparing

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: for the show, and we got into this conversation because

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01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 1: yesterday we were discussing how Jack Lambert is auctioning off

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02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 1: stuff for his um is his own memorabilia from his

2207
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: days as a Pittsburgh Steeler, obviously a Hall of Famer

2208
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: inducted in nineteen ninety and he was selling the false

2209
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 1: teeth whole plastic holder that he would have in his locker,

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02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: so he'd take his teeth out before the game and

2211
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 1: put him in the plastic case. So now he is

2212
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: selling that as part of his memorabilia collection. He autographed

2213
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: it and you win the Hall of Fame on there,

2214
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: and so the bid on it yesterday was like three

2215
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So we're like, what is some of the

2216
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:44,960
Speaker 1: wildest stuff sports memorabilia wise that we've seen auctioned off?

2217
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: And there's some crazy stuff, Steve, you and I are joking,

2218
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: like about Kurt Schilling's bloody sock from the Red Sox

2219
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 1: World Series. Actually that's out there. Yeah, that's not that's

2220
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: not even one of the weirdest. Yeah, there's some goody sock.

2221
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: RG three's cast when he broke his leg, which you know, Uh,

2222
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm this is the one I remember. Louis Gonzalez's chewed gum. Yeah,

2223
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: somebody grabbed a piece of gum that he had chewed

2224
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 1: and sold it and it they sold it for ten grand.

2225
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 1: Come on, ten thousand dollars. Who's got money for that?

2226
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: Not me, Bruce leave. As kids, we used to call

2227
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 1: that ABC gum already been chewed, yes um. Former relief

2228
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 1: pitcher Jeff Nelson of the Mariners and the Yankees. He

2229
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: once had to get surgery to remove bone chips from

2230
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 1: his arm. He uh, he put his bone chips up

2231
02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 1: on eBay. Now he claims it was a joke, like

2232
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 1: I just put him up there as a joke. You know.

2233
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Here are my bone chips that they removed from my

2234
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 1: elbow so I could keep pitching. Twenty three thousand, six

2235
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: hundred dollars is what the bidding got up to. And

2236
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: then he pulled it because, yeah, because it went against

2237
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: the rules of eBay, which is you can't sell human

2238
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 1: parts they don't need. Because bone chips leads to what

2239
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:16,760
Speaker 1: kidneys on the on the black market now on eBay?

2240
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 1: And who needs a kidney? You know, exactly, so not good.

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02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: Tom Sever's toothpick is on this one of the game,

2242
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, come on, I don't know why

2243
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,440
Speaker 1: this gets gross to me, but it follows the Seinfeld

2244
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: logic that hair on your head is perfectly fine, but

2245
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 1: hair on any kind of other object that you come

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02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 1: across is absolutely disgusting. Um. Andre Agassi's ponytail, yeah, was

2247
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: was sold back in the nineties. This is disturbing. Uh.

2248
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 1: I think we all know by now that later on

2249
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 1: in his career. He actually wore a wig and held

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02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: it down with his head band because he was he

2251
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 1: was going my way completely baldo, And it wasn't until

2252
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: very late in his career that he actually just shaved

2253
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 1: the whole thing, which is where we all end up.

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02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Here's the one that the one piece that I thought, yeah,

2255
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. It's the bat that Mike Piazza

2256
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: shattered in the Mets Yankees series, oh, the World Series

2257
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: in two thousands, and Roger Clemens grabbed it and threw

2258
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 1: it kind of at him, you know. Oh yeah, that

2259
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 1: part of that shard of that bat was you know sold.

2260
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 1: Well that's a controversial one, so you could get the

2261
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 1: there's a story behind it, yeah, because yeah, exact, what

2262
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 1: the hell is the story behind andre Agassi's ponytail that

2263
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 1: he was bald in real life? Like maybe like somebody

2264
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 1: held me out with that thousands of dollars And then

2265
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 1: this is how stupid soccer fans are around the world.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? So when FIFA does the World Cup draw,

2267
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 1: or they do the euro draw for the euro Championships

2268
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: or even for Champions League, they pull these tags, you know,

2269
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 1: out of the blind draw and then they hold it

2270
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: up and it says what the country is and what

2271
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 1: bracket they're going in. It's like March madness, but they're

2272
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 1: pulling out little tabs. FIFA. FIFA, which by the way,

2273
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: is a hundreds of billions of dollars non profit sells these. Well,

2274
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: they they did not to begin with. A guy saw

2275
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: him laying there, and he scooped him off him and

2276
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 1: put him and was gonna auction him off and FIFA

2277
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: got wind of him. They said, whoo whoo. Yeah, they

2278
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 1: went over a thousand dollars just for a tab of paper, right,

2279
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 1: and then FIFA stepped in and the legal actions. Yeah.

2280
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: The one another one in the in the Major League

2281
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame, Ty Cobbs dentures and apparently he

2282
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: was What is the obsession with these oral there's an

2283
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 1: oral fixation with baseball memorability. You just we well, we

2284
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 1: talked about Jack Lambert. That's football too, I guess, not

2285
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 1: even the false teeth, the stuff that held the false teeth,

2286
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: And now you're talking about Ty Cobbs. Fake choppers were

2287
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: they made of? Would? No? I mean look like you know, normal,

2288
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 1: except they're not complete. You know, it's just parts of them,

2289
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, so it's his upper molders on either side.

2290
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 1: I guess or whatever that she's pretty good. I must

2291
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 1: have done a number on him. They also have Tom

2292
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: Severs toothpick. I don't know. I guess he was a

2293
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: frequent user of toothpicks. I mean I only saw the

2294
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 1: very end of his career. But in nineteen ninety two,

2295
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 1: a toothpick which was found in the pocket of one

2296
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 1: of Sever's warm up jackets which he used with the mets,

2297
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 1: went up for auction, and the winning bid for a

2298
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: toothpick in Tom Severs jacket four hundred and forty dollars.

2299
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: Like many toothpicks you could buy for four hundred and

2300
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: forty dollars unused. I don't get it. Yeah, some of

2301
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: these just don't make any sense. Yeah, it's crazy. We're

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02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 1: obsessed with it because you know, here's the thing, and

2303
02:05:57,200 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 1: here's where the mindset goes. And this is the fun

2304
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: part to talk about something that you saw or was

2305
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: part of your childhood. You saw that guy like Scots Batchard.

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02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 1: That makes sense if you're there. There's another one like

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02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 1: another one. Um. When I would watch the NBA as

2308
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 1: a kid, Wilt Chamberlain and back then it was Luell Sender.

2309
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 1: We're going at it year after year in the finals.

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02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:20,520
Speaker 1: It seemed like to me I was a kid, and

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02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain always had a sweat band. Yeah, right. Or

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Speaker 1: when Kareem when Luell Sender became Kareem abdul Jabbar and

2313
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 1: he had to wear goggles, you know, a pair of

2314
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Luel Sender or Kareem abdul Jabbar's goggles. Game Warren goggles

2315
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of cool because it was kind of an iconic

2316
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: He did it after an injury, and he and later

2317
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: won world championships in those things and all that. That'd

2318
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 1: be kind of cool. I could see that one of

2319
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 1: those things that's apparent goggles, you know, parent like Kurt

2320
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 1: Rambis's glass glasses, stuff like that. A pair of Mike

2321
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 1: Jordan's shoes, come on, you're right, yeah that yeah, that

2322
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 1: he wore a Para sha shacked Shaquille O'Neil shoes. They're

2323
02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're size twenty two. Right, that would be

2324
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 1: something that you could get behind, right, But a piece

2325
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 1: of chewed gum, a toothpick, dentures, I'm not I'm thinking no, Yeah,

2326
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking no, but that's the reason you get into

2327
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: that close to something that was in anybody's mouth, like,

2328
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Right? But I was thinking we

2329
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: were going down the list of stuff that you could

2330
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 1: think of, and I just gave you some of mine,

2331
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, lew else, the Kareem Abdul Jabbar's goggles, a

2332
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: pair of Jordan's that he wore. You know, game warn jerseys,

2333
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 1: of course, you know, a helmet in our sport, you know,

2334
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 1: football wrist bands. I used to give wrist bands after

2335
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 1: games to kids, you know, yeah, game gloves. Yeah, that's

2336
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of cool. This one was the Mickey Mantle death threat.

2337
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 1: Did you see that? It was signed? Yeah, so eighteen thousand,

2338
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars for a Mickey Mantle signed death threat

2339
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: that was sent to him in nineteen fifty. Oh he

2340
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 1: signed it, not the person who death threatened him. Yeah.

2341
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 1: I guy said, well, I'm sure he wrote it. Well,

2342
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't write his name. Probably did you make

2343
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 1: a death threat? Usually don't leave you Yeah, you don't

2344
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 1: want to leave your name. Um, that's kind of a giveaway.

2345
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: At least I would not think you would do that.

2346
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm not demot in this area of Mickey mannle over

2347
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 1: a home run or hitting streak or something. You knocked

2348
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 1: my team out of the playoffs, and I'm never forgive you.

2349
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay for that. My team was supposed to

2350
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 1: win the pennant, you know, something like that, and he

2351
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:28,960
Speaker 1: signed it. I get it, I get mix signed a

2352
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Oh yeah, Um he was a piece

2353
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 1: of work. Because he was a piece of work. So yeah,

2354
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 1: there's some interesting stuff there, for sure. I Um, the

2355
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 1: art model toilet, yeah, I know a Cleveland resident bought

2356
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 1: that one. Absolutely, uh, And I am certain that some

2357
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: liberties were taken in terms of describing the story and

2358
02:08:55,880 --> 02:09:00,120
Speaker 1: acquiring it and whatnot. Yeah, they when they toured on

2359
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 1: the old Cleveland stadium, they auctioned off a bunch of stuff.

2360
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 1: And that was in the urinal that was bought, was

2361
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 1: in the art model's office, in his in his suite,

2362
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 1: in his owner's suite at the stadium. Um, I don't

2363
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 1: know that. I'm surprised that they had actual running water

2364
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 1: in that stadium in Cleveland, but there it is. There's

2365
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:22,480
Speaker 1: a urinal. That stadium place was a place, was a dump.

2366
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 1: There was almost more dirt on that field than grass. Right, Oh,

2367
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 1: that there was a mud pit. There was grass on it.

2368
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: You know how I know because they cut it in

2369
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 1: squares like this and randomly threw it in spots like

2370
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 1: it was like somebody had taken a deck of cards,

2371
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: like the SAD was cards and just like threw them

2372
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 1: out there in some random order at like a forty

2373
02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: five degree angle to the sidelines in the middle of

2374
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:52,520
Speaker 1: a sand pit. They threw a one little square at

2375
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: SAD running rounds on that. Unbelievable. The place was a dump.

2376
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 1: It was an absolute and a procity two sports. You

2377
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:06,680
Speaker 1: it could have been nineteen ten and those guys would

2378
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 1: have complained. They would be like, what is this, Yeah,

2379
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 1: it's horrible at place it was. It was a hole

2380
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 1: and they and they and they get on old art

2381
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:16,760
Speaker 1: modile for wanting to leave. I mean, what are you

2382
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 1: kidding me? Yeah? It was horrible. It was absolutely horrible.

2383
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: You guys played the eighty nine divisional playoff there, right, Yeah,

2384
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 1: that was the last time I was ever in that stadium.

2385
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: Uh maybe not, maybe not. That was a that was

2386
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 1: a rough building dump. Oh my gosh, it was a

2387
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 1: it was a scrap heap. It was. It was I

2388
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: can't there are words no I can't say a dump.

2389
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 1: If I called the old Cleveland Stadium a dump, it's

2390
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 1: an insult to dumps everywhere. Oh wow, yeah, I mean

2391
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 1: I never had been in it, but you could just

2392
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 1: see on television how bad it was like. And we're

2393
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:58,920
Speaker 1: talking four by three tube sets, no high deaf. You

2394
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 1: didn't need high death to see how bad that place was.

2395
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 1: It was rough. I cannot picture a time in human

2396
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 1: history where that would have been considered state of the art.

2397
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 1: On the day it was finished. It was a dump. Wow.

2398
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 1: Strong takes here as we close up a Wednesday edition.

2399
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 1: Am I coming across bitter? It's deserving that place doesn't

2400
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: deserve to be remembered. Finally in any way, shape or form,

2401
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 1: just to ask people from a couple of those in

2402
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, Yeah yeah, break time for us, Steve and

2403
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 1: I close it up next with what have we learned? Here?

2404
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health. It's

2405
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. It is time for what have we learned?

2406
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills, and we have just learned

2408
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 1: that the raiders have informed veteran guard Gabe Jackson that

2409
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 1: he will be released according to a source. That's Josina

2410
02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:14,240
Speaker 1: Anderson reporting that. And Gabe Jackson, for those of you

2411
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 1: that don't know, is really tight with John Feliciano. Those

2412
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:23,840
Speaker 1: two guys, former teammates, former roommates. Wrote a story about

2413
02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: John Feliciano on Buffalo Bills dot com a year or

2414
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 1: so ago, and I talked to Gabe Jackson about John,

2415
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: and you know what makes him They all call him Mongo,

2416
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 1: what makes him Mongo and everything? And Gabe is just

2417
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 1: Feliciano loves Gabe. But Gabe Jackson is the reason that

2418
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 1: John Feliciano couldn't be a full time starter in Oakland.

2419
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 1: They were still in Oakland at that time. And you

2420
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:50,960
Speaker 1: get back to the transactions from yesterday. Two cornerbacks from

2421
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: Houston were released, Mark Fields a second, and Brandon Williams

2422
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 1: was released. Kendall Vicker's defensive end was signed by the Raiders.

2423
02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph gone, and Henry Anderson from the Jets gone

2424
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:05,400
Speaker 1: the defensive line. And this is all coming out. It's

2425
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 1: starting to pick up some speed. But we're also seeing

2426
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 1: here and there players resigned. Like the long snappers today,

2427
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 1: we said it was long snappers. Now those are easy deals.

2428
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Raiders sign their guys and you know,

2429
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 1: so you're gonna also hear about restructuring coming up. I'm

2430
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 1: sure if teams are gonna do that, but I think

2431
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be like a lot like we see.

2432
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 1: If you see Wow, I wonder why they're not restructuring.

2433
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 1: I'll bet if there's a trend and something happened, then

2434
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 1: nobody will restructure, you know what I mean. Either they're

2435
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 1: all gonna throw everybody out on the street, or they're

2436
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 1: all gonna try and restructure everybody. It's gonna be one

2437
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 1: or the other. Yeah, I think it's gonna be the

2438
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 1: way to go. So much more to talk about, Yeah,

2439
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,760
Speaker 1: probably more releases to talk about when we see you tomorrow.

2440
02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live, presented by collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll see tomorrow