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Speaker 1: And we are back with the Falcons Audible presented by

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Speaker 1: AT and T. Your crew is going to be coming

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Speaker 1: at you a little bit more frequently now as the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons are officially in pads and.

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Speaker 2: We are officially here to talk more about the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I understand it's the preseason. We haven't gotten to actual

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Speaker 1: action on the field as far as competitive games, but

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Speaker 1: there's been enough action on the practice field that we

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Speaker 1: can talk and we can update you all as far

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Speaker 1: as what is going on with the Atlanta Falcons. I'm

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Speaker 1: Derek Rackley, That's DJ Shockley, that's Dave Archer. Back as always.

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Speaker 1: Here's a quick little snippet of what we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. Obviously training camp as it stands, some

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Speaker 1: of the injuries that we've seen so far through camp,

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Speaker 1: but kind of what it means as we move forward

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Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the preseason.

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Speaker 2: And as the regular season starts.

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Speaker 1: Joint practices with Miami will be going on as we

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Speaker 1: speak or today this week before they face off their

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Speaker 1: preseason game with the Dolphins later on this week, and

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Speaker 1: then maybe if we have time, we'll get into a

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Speaker 1: little joint practice story time. Going back to our days

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Speaker 1: with some practices. So let's fire it up Dave of

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Speaker 1: all of us. I don't know, Dj, we might be

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Speaker 1: you might have been out in training camp the most

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Speaker 1: of all three of us here. So let's kind of

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Speaker 1: give people that are listening, people that are watching a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a snapshot of what you've seen in

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Speaker 1: what's gone down so far in training camp.

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Speaker 3: I think Front seven wise guys defensively shock you. And

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Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of physicality, a lot there's a

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Speaker 3: different presence. That's a bigger football team. You can feel

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Speaker 3: the presence of the physicality up front. I think that

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Speaker 3: that permeates not only the older guys that have come

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Speaker 3: a very physical football player, and that kind of translates

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Speaker 3: to what they're looking for from a personality standpoint. On

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Speaker 3: be interesting to see how that plays out during the week.

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Speaker 3: But it's a much more aggressive group. You're seeing a

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Speaker 3: lot more bump and run coverage in camp, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: we know that we pick out stuff to work on

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Speaker 3: in camp that you're going to use in the regular season,

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Speaker 3: but doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be your identity.

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Speaker 3: It seems to be a little bit more identity with

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Speaker 3: A lot of bump and run coverage, a lot of

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Speaker 3: disrupt timing. That's what I see on the offense, on

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Speaker 3: I still see you kind of trying to find yourself

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Speaker 3: a little bit. I think certainly your ability to run

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Speaker 3: the football. The engagement of Algier and Cordero and Bijon

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's understandable, David. At this point in

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Speaker 1: don't know how that's gonna look once you actually start

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Speaker 1: and it sounds like you're seeing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were a few things that you're taking account

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Speaker 5: I think these rookies are already making their presence known

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Speaker 5: at it. And I remember Terry talking about fan no gim,

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Speaker 5: have to He just said, oh, hey, we got to

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Speaker 5: I think you can see how multiple this offense can be.

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Speaker 5: There's things you watch your practice you say, wow, I

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Speaker 5: look at that formation, Well, wow, look at where this

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Speaker 5: fun is these guys are gonna be able to play

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Speaker 5: last thing, I think the biggest thing is watching how

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Speaker 5: So that tells you from a fan standpoint, you got

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Speaker 1: And I know this isn't the only place that gets

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Speaker 2: Like, it's been ninety five and really hot.

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Speaker 1: So think about these guys having these hour and a half,

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Speaker 2: And that's not the case. No, that guys are staying outside.

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Speaker 4: They are staying out.

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Speaker 5: And one other thing that I'll add to it is

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Speaker 4: They want to see us. They want to see what

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Speaker 1: I took some notes too, and I just want you

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Speaker 4: Competition?

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Speaker 1: Right, So we're on the same level. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about just competition for roster spots. Yes, that's a given.

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Speaker 1: the offense they get hot when they get stopped, right.

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Speaker 1: That tells you that it means something to them. The

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Speaker 3: Games and they're sharing they're sharing joy on the field too.

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Speaker 3: Shock and I've watched it. If a guy makes a

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Speaker 3: it's not individual, it's they're they're they're finding joy in

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Speaker 3: somebody's success as a team. They're enjoying that, which I

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Speaker 3: think when you start talking about some of the things

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Speaker 5: And let me ask them to arno what you just said,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as we sit here for this podcast, there, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an interesting dynamic with Kalais here that I

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Speaker 1: So now you have to sit back and you got

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Speaker 1: to trust your technique. You got to trust your footwork,

440
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Speaker 1: you got to trust your hands. Those are all the

441
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Speaker 1: things that I feel like you get out of joint

442
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Speaker 1: practices Other than the kind of increased level of competition.

443
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Speaker 3: As a fan, you might be saying, well, I can

444
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 3: study the tape and I know what Grady's moves are, right,

445
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 3: But you didn't physically against him. Yeah, music physically feel

446
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Speaker 3: him for a couple of weeks or even a part

447
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 3: of last year. Then you do have a gauge on him,

448
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 3: whether Christian Wilkins bigger style, different guy, different style, Maybe

449
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 3: his push pulls different than gradies. You just made the

450
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Speaker 3: point you rely on what you know and you're not

451
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Speaker 3: getting tricked here. It's what you know.

452
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Speaker 5: At that point, it's hard for me to add anything

453
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 5: to what you guys said, because I think that's exactly

454
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Speaker 5: where these joint practices go. And I think the other

455
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,239
Speaker 5: part of you you was about to bring it up,

456
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 5: was about the evaluation part of it from everywhere from

457
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Speaker 5: the coaching staff, to see how these guys respond in

458
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 5: these certain spots. Like some of these guys may go

459
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 5: out and they've had a great camp and they, like

460
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Speaker 5: you mentioned, they know what are certain guys are gonna do,

461
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Speaker 5: and they get beat a couple times. I just got

462
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Speaker 5: gonna respond versus somebody else when you're in a whole

463
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Speaker 5: different environment and now the coaches can sit back and say, Okay,

464
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Speaker 5: I saw him get beat, but he jumped right back

465
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Speaker 5: in in the next series and was ready to go

466
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Speaker 5: as opposed to being here. He knows I get enough

467
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Speaker 5: chance to go against that guy, I know who what

468
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Speaker 5: he's all about. And I think that's probably the biggest

469
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Speaker 5: part of this is when you're going to these joint practice.

470
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Speaker 5: You guys both just mentioned it about going against somebody else,

471
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Speaker 5: which actually gives you an idea of Okay, how do

472
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Speaker 5: I respond when I don't know what's gonna happen like

473
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Speaker 5: we've seen, Like you guys have talked about, I know

474
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Speaker 5: this guy's move. I know this guy when he starts

475
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 5: to break down, he's gonna come out of his route.

476
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Speaker 5: And you can be in a kind of what we

477
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 5: call a safe zone while you're in practice. Everything feels

478
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 5: comfortable to you. When you get out any joint practice,

479
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 5: it could be moments where you can be real uncomfortable

480
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 5: in a particular rep or drill, and how do you

481
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Speaker 5: respond at to it. I think it's gonna be a

482
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Speaker 5: huge deal for that evaluation process.

483
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Speaker 3: Well, that's such a good point shot because the other

484
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Speaker 3: element to that is the dudes on the other side,

485
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: they're wearing the dolphin unison. They don't care anything about you, okay,

486
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: Whereas des drops and throws here at Flowery Branch, those

487
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 3: defensive guys, that's their guy, that's their quarterback, and not

488
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Speaker 3: that they're not going to try to steal the ball

489
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Speaker 3: from him and take it from him, but there's a

490
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Speaker 3: caring for both. Those guys don't care about you. They're competing,

491
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Speaker 3: so you do get a little bit more of that

492
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Speaker 3: step towards Hey, it's against the world mentality, it's us

493
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Speaker 3: against Miami, Whereas we're all together out here at Flowery

494
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Speaker 3: Branch and you're still trying to be competitive. What you

495
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Speaker 3: guys pointed out, it's how good and competitive it is

496
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Speaker 3: out here. But there's still that little bit of edge

497
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Speaker 3: that you start to gain a little bit as you're

498
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna feel in game. So as we gradually progress towards

499
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Speaker 3: the regular season, this stuff all starts to grow together.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I'll throw out from my experience, and

501
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Speaker 1: you kind of talked about it with the edge, I'm

502
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Speaker 1: gonna take it one step further.

503
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Speaker 2: The other thing that you tend to get sometimes at

504
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Speaker 2: joint practices are.

505
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Speaker 1: Some chippiness some fights they are breaking out. Sometimes it

506
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen, and again they're all everybody is like a

507
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's a brotherhood still, no matter whether you

508
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Speaker 1: play for the same team or another team, and they're

509
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: gonna shake hands afterwards.

510
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Speaker 2: But I just know you'unk me from my experience when

511
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Speaker 2: we went up to Tennessee one time.

512
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Speaker 1: Like I swear every drill right out at some point,

513
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Speaker 1: whether it was punt block and working on special teams

514
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: or obviously nine on seven inside drow when you're running

515
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: the football, offensive defensive line and linebackers are going to

516
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: get after it all the time. And again there's nothing

517
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: malicious about it. It's just guys that are competing and

518
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: it's training camp and they're frustrated and they're trying to

519
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Speaker 1: make an impression. And so if you start to see

520
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Speaker 1: reports about fights breaking out, don't freak out.

521
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Speaker 2: It just happens.

522
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Speaker 1: It happens in regular training camp too. But that is

523
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Speaker 1: another thing that sometimes happened in joint practices. Dave, you

524
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Speaker 1: mentioned that you've done a number of them throughout the years.

525
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Speaker 1: What are some of your memories, maybe your fondest memory

526
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Speaker 1: or two. If they're such a thing as them, being fond.

527
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know if it was fun. Miami

528
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: used to come up here with us when Dan Marino

529
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Speaker 3: was the quarterback. There ed the Marx brothers at wide receiver,

530
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Speaker 3: so it was essentially it was a It was a

531
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Speaker 3: cast of celebrities that came in here, and you almost

532
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: found yourself starstruck. It goes here's Marino, here's Mark Duper,

533
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Speaker 3: Here's Mark Clayton. I found I wasn't the only one.

534
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Speaker 3: I found three or four teammates of mine. We ended

535
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Speaker 3: up staying on the sidelines watching them do it. We're

536
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Speaker 3: supposed to be in another aren't you gotta come join?

537
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Speaker 4: Run down to the end?

538
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Speaker 2: Did you get to your drill?

539
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, this is d so And I was only

540
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Speaker 3: in my second or third year in the league when

541
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Speaker 3: we started doing this, So yeah, a little bit star

542
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 3: struck there, and you say, wait a minute, I'm going

543
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Speaker 3: to I'm in the league with him, So I needed

544
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: doing my thing, and so that was kind of a realization.

545
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Speaker 3: I think that was the funniest thing that kind of

546
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: came out of it. Like you said, some of the chippiness.

547
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Speaker 3: I remember the Giants came and participated with us in

548
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Speaker 3: a couple of joint practices in their heyday back in

549
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Speaker 3: the mid eighties when when Bill Parcells was coaching there

550
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Speaker 3: and we had an actual one on one pass rush

551
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: drill where we had an actual quarterback dropping to throw.

552
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Speaker 3: And as you guys know, those are one on ones

553
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Speaker 3: tackle and an end or a guard and a defensive

554
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Speaker 3: tackle and they're battling and they'll blow the whistle at

555
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Speaker 3: some point. Well, they had a young defensive end coming

556
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Speaker 3: off the edge and he got by our tackle and

557
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Speaker 3: he just blowed turk shown it. It was my backup at

558
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Speaker 3: the time. Here blew turk showing it up, just ran

559
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Speaker 3: right through him. I thought Bill's Parcells was going to

560
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: kill this guy, okay, because it was you know.

561
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Speaker 2: That's complete.

562
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Speaker 4: He's not getting your scholarship taken.

563
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Speaker 3: Finds all that you cannot hit the quarterback.

564
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Speaker 2: I don't care what the drill is.

565
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Speaker 3: And he just destroys one of our quarterbacks on a

566
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Speaker 3: one on one past risk and Bill Parcells completely undressed

567
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: this guy. I stay there with my mouth up. You know,

568
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: you could say that.

569
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Speaker 4: He's grown too.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that might have been the end of actual quarterbacks.

571
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Speaker 1: Now they use a ball kid that doesn't have any

572
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Speaker 1: UH any paths on DJ any memories from you.

573
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember one year, the one year that we

574
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Speaker 5: didn't play Jacksonville in the UH in the preseason, we

575
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Speaker 5: still found a way to go down and do some

576
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Speaker 5: joint practice. I remember going against a guy who I

577
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 5: played with at Georgia and he played linebacker. And imagine,

578
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Speaker 5: in like a team drill, I'm walking up to the line.

579
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to you know, I didn't find to mic him,

580
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 5: you know, looking at safeties. He walks up with a

581
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 5: guy shocking and went to that bar, shock be failing

582
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: the shot. And this is like I'm trying to be see,

583
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 5: I'm trying to focus and think, and he's telling us

584
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: every time we come to the left, he's bringing something

585
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: else up and he's talking.

586
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: So I'm having to block him out and then go.

587
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: And one time I roll out, same player, roll out

588
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 5: to the left and maybe I complete it, maybe I don't.

589
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 5: He gives me a little flipper as he's going off.

590
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 5: I kind of fall off to the side a little bit.

591
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Speaker 5: But the fact that you know, it was just fun, fun,

592
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: fun times, having, you know, going against some guys you

593
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 5: know maybe you know went against it, like you say, no,

594
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 5: guys that you go against and you're all instruggling. There's

595
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 5: other guys who you know, they try to throw you

596
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: off your game. And he had been around for you know,

597
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: three or four years and now, so it wasn't nothing

598
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: to him to you know, be out there talking. So

599
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: it was just it was just fun to have that

600
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 5: kind of robbery while you're in practice and I'm locked

601
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Speaker 5: in focus.

602
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: He's you know, it's trying to get me.

603
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: Not enough.

604
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Speaker 1: As a young quarterback, no doubt, you got to think

605
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: about pre snap. Now you got to tune out somebody

606
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: talking mess to you know. Guess what that happens in

607
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: the games as well.

608
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Speaker 4: I'll be real quick.

609
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: I remember the time that we went up and faced Tennessee.

610
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Speaker 1: You guys remember Alur Haynesworth. I mean, you talk about it.

611
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: Dude, that was a monster.

612
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Speaker 1: I mean he was a monster number one. But he

613
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: was like the king of being chippy and wanting.

614
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: To start fights. And dude, I swear every drill that

615
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: we played.

616
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: He was getting in somebody's face playing after the whistle,

617
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: maybe grabbing a face mask or something. And I'd be

618
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: over on the side and all of a sudden, you

619
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: just hear everything break out, and I was like, here

620
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: we go again, Here we go again. But those were

621
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: the times that Steve McNair was there, Rest in peace.

622
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: Keith Bullock was with a linebacker. He was he was

623
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: always talking. I always had his jersey tucked up underneath

624
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: his shoulder.

625
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 5: But here's a question, dude, the coaches really like it?

626
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 5: Did they want to see their team have a little fight.

627
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: Order of course they're going to say we don't want

628
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 5: that happening. We don't need to be fighting, but the

629
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Speaker 5: coach really want to see his team probably get after it.

630
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're ever going to talk

631
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: about that.

632
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, right, right right.

633
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: But it's like, how is this guy gonna respond? When

634
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: somebody can.

635
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: Remember Brooke getting thrown out of practice combined practice, I

636
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: think put New England down.

637
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: Here, okay, yeah, And Brooking kept.

638
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: Getting in a fight with this one particular offensive lineman

639
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: and about the fourth time they just toss Brookie, our guy,

640
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: our coach is just tossing out of here. They don't

641
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: watch you in here anymoreuldn't He wouldn't stop fighting.

642
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: Brook was one of the like the one of the

643
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: guys that I tell people like off the field like

644
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: he would have glasses.

645
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Like just like look like a normal regular dude.

646
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: You get him on the field and Pasmanian devil, I

647
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: mean regular practices, he'd be breaking out in fights too,

648
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: but that was just the passion, uh that he ended

649
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: up playing with.

650
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: So anyway, that'll kind of wrap.

651
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: It up for us, give you some stories of our

652
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: times to and joint practices. Falcons commencing with the Miami

653
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins right now, concluding with a preseason game later this week,

654
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: and we'll get to see some actual.

655
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: Play on the field.

656
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Probably won't get a chance to see very many starters,

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