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Speaker 1: Harry Is is the current world's fastest man Olympic gold
Speaker 1: medalist in the one hundred meters. He's a three time
Speaker 1: two hundred meters champ at the World Championship. He anchored
Speaker 1: the world the gold medal winning team in the World
Speaker 1: Championship last year. Harry Is, Ladies and gentlemen, no, allow, no,
Speaker 1: how you doing, bro feeling good? Feeling good? That race
Speaker 1: leading into it, you ran your fastest time leading that
Speaker 1: Diamond League meet.
Speaker 3: I think you ran nine to eighty one.
Speaker 1: You know, Kashane Thompson has run nine to seven seven,
Speaker 1: and everybody's talking that's the man to beat, that's the
Speaker 1: man to beat. And you had never run sub nine
Speaker 1: to eight to run it in the finals when you
Speaker 1: absolutely had.
Speaker 3: To have it.
Speaker 1: Tell me what was your strategy going into that race
Speaker 1: and how were you able to pull it off?
Speaker 4: To be honest, I have many strategies. They all kind
Speaker 4: of you know, were thrown out the window. The closer
Speaker 4: and closer we got to the finals. You know, in
Speaker 4: the first round, I'm like, okay, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: work on my first sixty. I'm gonna get out. But
Speaker 4: you know, you know I have add so my brain
Speaker 4: is working on overdrive. It's like, well, we could we
Speaker 4: could get out easy and then hit it hard, or
Speaker 4: we can get it hard and then shut it down,
Speaker 4: or we could run fast all the way. And the
Speaker 4: problem was I thought too much and then I underestimated
Speaker 4: my competition. It's like, nope, seek now you had to
Speaker 4: you messed up. I'm like, all right, all right, I
Speaker 4: need to call my brain down. I needed to get
Speaker 4: it set on one goal. So we get to the semifinals.
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, all right, aggression, mindset, power, everything like that.
Speaker 4: And it produced, you know, a really good time eighty three.
Speaker 4: You know, it tied again my second past the time
Speaker 4: which was my pr before London. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm good. I'm good, but you know I
Speaker 4: feel I can go even faster. You know, I didn't
Speaker 4: want to get beat you know, so here I am
Speaker 4: coming getting second in the semis. I'm like, you know
Speaker 4: what's going on. So my my therapist calls me and
Speaker 4: she's like, you're running with aggressing. You're running with a Noah.
Speaker 4: That is not you. And I'm like, okay, fair enough
Speaker 4: that that's not me. You know that that's an older
Speaker 4: way of thinking. That's just not how I run. It's like,
Speaker 4: you need to run free, need to run with no pressure.
Speaker 4: Just go out there and run. And I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out there
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna just run. And she said, if you
Speaker 4: control the crowd, you control the race. And I know
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, shoot, that's that's how I do. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna show me. That's that's what I do. You know,
Speaker 4: all I gotta do is be new. That's all that takes.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna win the race. We get you know, we're
Speaker 4: getting out there, I'm just like, just be me, Just
Speaker 4: be me, Just be me. We get out there and
Speaker 4: you know, they're doing the intros and you know, Kashane
Speaker 4: comes down, Kashane he ends up, yeah, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: hold on, that's that's me.
Speaker 3: That's what I need.
Speaker 4: But I didn't hold them for it. I liked it though,
Speaker 4: because I love to see more personalities come up than
Speaker 4: just look at the camera say hi, walk out and
Speaker 4: it's like, nah, Noah, bring that energy, like get me
Speaker 4: excited to run. So you know, there's another YouTube video
Speaker 4: that NBC put out where it's like you can see
Speaker 4: us in the back of the car room, you know,
Speaker 4: Fred and on the side, you know, banging on the wall.
Speaker 4: It's like, let's go.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Case Shane's doing is yelling. I'm over here singing dreams
Speaker 4: the nightmarees. I'm like, yeah, this this is an Olympic final.
Speaker 4: This is an Olympic finals. So you know, I go out.
Speaker 4: I'm jumping around, I'm running past the cameras, I'm yelling
Speaker 4: at the crowd and they over here like yeah excited.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this is this is my race now.
Speaker 4: And you know, from that point on, it was just
Speaker 4: repeating you know, you know, God got me, God got me,
Speaker 4: got me because at this point I've done everything that
Speaker 4: I need to do to win this race. Everything that
Speaker 4: I needed to do has been done in months in advance.
Speaker 4: You know, we're already here.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: It's just a believing in myself that it's gonna get done.
Speaker 4: And it's not about running fast times. It's about running
Speaker 4: to win. The times will come when you run to win. No,
Speaker 4: I think you got a lot of pushback. You run
Speaker 4: the World Championship last year and unprompted, you said, you
Speaker 4: see these hats and they have World champions on it,
Speaker 4: which we've always called the basketball players. We've always called
Speaker 4: the NBA.
Speaker 1: The NFL, the Super Bowl champ we've always called MLB,
Speaker 1: we've always called the World champs. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where a lot of the blowbacks, because it seemed like
Speaker 1: one of America's best athletes were taking another was taken
Speaker 1: a shot at some of the America's best athletes. And
Speaker 1: I think it kind of put you under the eye
Speaker 1: because then you know, basketball players said what they said.
Speaker 1: Some football players chime then also, and then for the
Speaker 1: first time I actually saw some of these athletes like
Speaker 1: openly rooting against you. I mean you might not. I
Speaker 1: mean something you were probably never seen another country. You're
Speaker 1: not going to see the Dutch, somebody from Dutch rooting
Speaker 1: against Fimka, a rooting against our Carston Needs from Norway
Speaker 1: or Inger Britsin. We're not gonna see that. Do you
Speaker 1: think you brought some of this on yourself with that comment,
Speaker 1: or what were you open to accomplish by making that comment.
Speaker 4: I think the last question that you asked, what was
Speaker 4: I trying to accomplish by making the comment, is the
Speaker 4: most important one. Everybody sees the clip, everybody sees the thumb. Now,
Speaker 4: everybody sees the sixteen seconds. But did anybody decide to
Speaker 4: ask what's the question that he that was asked to me?
Speaker 4: The question that was asked to me is how do
Speaker 4: you feel knowing that when you go back to your
Speaker 4: own country? Unlike these other countries that celebrate their athletes
Speaker 4: on such a humongous stage, when Tobojo won his gold medal,
Speaker 4: he went back to a stadium filled with thirty thousand
Speaker 4: people celebrating. Yes, when I showed up back home on
Speaker 4: my flight, of course some people recognized me, and I'm
Speaker 4: very thankful for that. There was no thirty thousand people.
Speaker 4: There was no animal driver ready to take me home,
Speaker 4: there was no bus waiting. If I had my mom,
Speaker 4: I had my pops and they were ready to take
Speaker 4: me home, and I was ready to go to bed.
Speaker 4: That was none of that. That was none of that,
Speaker 4: But that the difference. I can understand the difference because
Speaker 4: we have a different way in America of seeing our sports.
Speaker 4: The problem that I had was you were given the
Speaker 4: title of a world champion the people who weren't facing
Speaker 4: the world. That's where I drew the line and said,
Speaker 4: that's hurtful because you already have those but you're giving
Speaker 4: the title the people who aren't doing that. Nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with being They are great here, they just didn't have
Speaker 4: the title. Is NICOLEA Jokic one of the best players
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be outside of that, is okay, Luca Luka,
Speaker 1: Doncic ah, is he not one of the okay?
Speaker 4: Jannisathaumpo, Yes, he's okay. What's the going are they? They're great,
Speaker 4: they're great players, great players.
Speaker 1: But they're world players. They're not from America. And the
Speaker 1: problem that you're going to run into, Noah, is that
Speaker 1: Botswana doesn't have a whole lot of athletes to celebrate
Speaker 1: as opposed to Americans. If you look at probably Kenya
Speaker 1: and Ethiopia and Sedaan in some of these other countries,
Speaker 1: the Dutch, the North Norwegian, we got NBA, we got MLB,
Speaker 1: we got football, we got baseball and so yeah, teams
Speaker 1: they have parades. Nobody is getting for the most part,
Speaker 1: even Michael Phelps. I don't know if they did they
Speaker 1: have how many people showed up at M and T.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael Felts were the eight goals,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had thirty thousand show up.
Speaker 3: I know they might have had a big contingent cheering
Speaker 3: him on.
Speaker 1: I just think that the difference is Noah is that
Speaker 1: in a sport, in a in a in a country
Speaker 1: like Botswana, or you're talking about a country, he's their hero.
Speaker 1: He is he is to both Swanna, he's Lebron James. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he is to both.
Speaker 4: Smart Yeah, I agree, Uh.
Speaker 1: You saying both what he is to Jamaica Peeve Peeve?
Speaker 1: He is there Michael.
Speaker 3: Jordan's I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan went Chicago, they showed out for the parade,
Speaker 1: but but probably when he went back to Wilmington where
Speaker 1: he was from, ain't no thirty thousand show up for Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I agree. No, I agree one hundred percent that
Speaker 4: I'm not expecting that. I'm not expecting the parade. I'm
Speaker 4: just showing that the difference of how our sport is shown,
Speaker 4: and because the question that was asked again was how
Speaker 4: does it feel knowing that when I go back home
Speaker 4: it's not with somebody like to Bojo's getting when he
Speaker 4: goes home.
Speaker 3: And again, I know what it is.
Speaker 4: I know what it is. I know we have you know,
Speaker 4: football and basketball, baseball, golf, those are all above my sport.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that. Of course I want to make
Speaker 4: that better, but I understand that. Again, the only problem
Speaker 4: I had was you have world champions, but you're giving
Speaker 4: the title to people who aren't facing the world. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you're giving them the title of world champion. That's
Speaker 4: the only thing.
Speaker 3: No, can you provide some context.
Speaker 1: There's this Time magazine story that came out that revealed
Speaker 1: that while you were negotiating your contract with Adidas, they
Speaker 1: offered you an invite to a shoe release for Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: And I think everybody's read the quote quote. Can you
Speaker 1: provide context?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But what transpired?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we don't need to get into negotiations,
Speaker 1: but what transpired is what's being reported.
Speaker 3: How accurate is that?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 4: What what was going on at the time? I was
Speaker 4: in negotiations for over a year with Adidas to get
Speaker 4: to get the contract, them offering me, you know, to
Speaker 4: go to ants for shoe release. Who had nothing to
Speaker 4: do with the contract. They just thought it would be
Speaker 4: cool that I would show up as one of their
Speaker 4: Adidas act. Unfortunately, they agree for it very late. They
Speaker 4: asked for it probably about two weeks in advance, and
Speaker 4: I was already scheduled to walk in the Hugo Boss
Speaker 4: Show in Milan, which was a day and a half
Speaker 4: before his shoe release. So at first we were trying
Speaker 4: to figure out ways that we can get there, and
Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, this this, this isn't good. This
Speaker 4: isn't gonna work. There's no way that I'd be able
Speaker 4: to walk and then get on the flight and have
Speaker 4: energy enough to be able to go to this Evan
Speaker 4: because it wasn't just the shoe release. They were also gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, have us go to a little baby concert
Speaker 4: and we were gonna be just signed. It was gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot. It was gonna be a lot, and
Speaker 4: I was already drained from you know, flying over, already
Speaker 4: doing the fashion shows, doing the walks, you know, going
Speaker 4: to other advents. You know, I was already drowned like this,
Speaker 4: there's no way that I'd be able to physically do this.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I agree with you flying overseas and
Speaker 1: then it's someone that's flown overseas and then come back
Speaker 1: you kind of jet lag, but you probably shouldn't lift it?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the other stuff where you get into trouble
Speaker 1: were people is picking apart what you say it is
Speaker 1: because like, oh no, I'm the world champ and he's
Speaker 1: getting this and you have the wherewithal the forward thinking
Speaker 1: to see that he's going to be special, and why
Speaker 1: can't you guys see that with me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: I will say, being very vulnerable in this moment, I
Speaker 4: felt very unheard. At that moment with Adidas, I felt
Speaker 4: very unheard and we and and to give an example,
Speaker 4: people do a lot of things. What do you do
Speaker 4: when you feel on herd? You try to shout louder yes,
Speaker 4: And I felt that I have had many conversations trying
Speaker 4: to shout and it hadn't gotten through right. And unfortunately
Speaker 4: that was one of my moments where I felt I
Speaker 4: had to shout to even get them to look my way.
Speaker 4: Okay in that time article, because they asked me if
Speaker 4: I wanted to take it out, and I decided I
Speaker 4: was not going to because I had to stand on
Speaker 4: my decision. At that moment. I felt that I had
Speaker 4: to shout to get even a conversation about what I
Speaker 4: wanted to happen or what was going on at that point.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's to be to move forward.
Speaker 4: Could it be handled? Probably? Was there more ways to
Speaker 4: do it, probably, But in that moment I felt that
Speaker 4: I had taken so many steps in other ways that
Speaker 4: I had to shout at this moment.
Speaker 1: Do you regret your decision not to have that removed
Speaker 1: from the article?
Speaker 4: I don't believe so at the moment. This conversation could
Speaker 4: be had in a year and I could have a
Speaker 4: different answer at this moment. I do not feel so,
Speaker 4: because I still still. If I did not shout at
Speaker 4: that moment, I would not have had the preamble to
Speaker 4: oh he is serious. And when I said it at
Speaker 4: the Olympics, they knew it was still on my heart.
Speaker 1: In track and field, there's only been two men that's
Speaker 1: ever had a shoot Michael Johnson and you saying.
Speaker 3: Two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Michael Johnathan had the world record in one hundred and
Speaker 1: the two hundred and he don't know anything but gold medals.
Speaker 1: I think he's a four time world champ in the
Speaker 1: four hundred, two time world champ in the two hundred,
Speaker 1: he's a two time champ and the four and he's
Speaker 1: a one time champ in the two hundred.
Speaker 3: And you say, I just say you saying boat, I
Speaker 3: don't need to.
Speaker 1: Say anything else. Why do you believe that you deserve
Speaker 1: to be in that category? With those guys looking at
Speaker 1: their accomplishments, not to say you're not done yet, but
Speaker 1: looking at their accomplishment accomplishments, looking at yours, Why did
Speaker 1: no allows believe he deserves to shoot?
Speaker 4: The reason I believe it is twofold one. We look
Speaker 4: at Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson, he is a He's a
Speaker 4: track guy, through and through. That's all. He's track and
Speaker 4: he loves track, and that's what he decided his lane
Speaker 4: was going to be. I don't feel that in his
Speaker 4: time period, we had the social media, we had the marketing,
Speaker 4: the self marketing to be able to push it forward.
Speaker 4: Of course he had Nike, and Nike was doing very well,
Speaker 4: but they wanted to keep it. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: think that they really wanted to keep pushing it, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if Michael Johnson wanted to do the
Speaker 4: work or not to market it as well as No,
Speaker 4: I don't know how much they had in their contract
Speaker 4: to keep that shoe alive. That's where I'm going to
Speaker 4: leave it with that. The time period wasn't right with
Speaker 4: you saying both the CEO that actually gave the bolt
Speaker 4: his shoe is now what it did is. And I've
Speaker 4: had conversations and I think you saying was very excited
Speaker 4: in the moment, and then he got excited about something
Speaker 4: else when it was time to do you know, the
Speaker 4: underground work, the marketing, the commercials and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and that scared a lot of companies I think in
Speaker 4: that moment. Also you saying is Jamaican. The marketing in
Speaker 4: the US is different. I feel in the US is
Speaker 4: it turns out when it comes to marketing, entertainment and
Speaker 4: marketing is the US is bread and butter. We know
Speaker 4: how to do that, like that's just our thing. So
Speaker 4: now that I'm an American in a time period where
Speaker 4: it's self, marketing is very popular and it's very you know,
Speaker 4: it's strong. You know, everybody wants to do it. Everybody's
Speaker 4: looking at it. They want the brand, They want the identity.
Speaker 4: You know, a person's identity is more marketed sometimes than
Speaker 4: a brand at times, and now we see them as brands.
Speaker 4: I know that I can do the work, I know
Speaker 4: that I can get the metals. But at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, I think that it comes down to guys.
Speaker 4: You now have the title of the world's fastest man.
Speaker 4: What do you do with that title? You tell them,
Speaker 4: don't you want to have the shoes of the fat
Speaker 4: world's fastest man. Don't you want to put those shoes
Speaker 4: on your feet. I'm wearing the same shoes as the
Speaker 4: world's fastest man. It's gonna make me so fast. It's
Speaker 4: the same thing, but the shoes. But the shoes that
Speaker 4: the world fastest man wears track spikes. The only wears
Speaker 4: track spikes on the track. He trains in tennis shoes,
Speaker 4: and we am out he's in tennis shoes. And when
Speaker 4: people go out and run their goons, they wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 4: And when you're in the gym, you wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 4: Guess what you're wearing tennis shoes. Everybody wears tennis shoes.
Speaker 4: And the only reason that you don't see more marketing
Speaker 4: for tennis shoes and individual runners is because they just
Speaker 4: haven't done it.
Speaker 1: Tyreek, you want you know, I can't believe you know
Speaker 1: who Tyreek kills. Don't do that, Noah, you know who
Speaker 1: kills the treat.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest. I forget his name all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna treat it. If it's not about track and
Speaker 4: it ain't about legal legends, my yeah, I got I
Speaker 4: got man. Get this, Tody Reek. It's just chasing cloud
Speaker 4: the man. Anytime somebody fast comes up, he says he
Speaker 4: wants to raise him. If he really wanted to race people,
Speaker 4: he would have showed up like DK Metcap and the
Speaker 4: man raced in the sixty meters this year in the
Speaker 4: master's division. The man does to smoke. I don't got
Speaker 4: time for that.
Speaker 3: Hey, Riki call out care.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, Let's get a couple of fay
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get some sponsors. Would you
Speaker 1: be willing to race or one hundred if we got
Speaker 1: some sponsors to put some money up.
Speaker 4: He's challenging me for racing in one hundred. We can
Speaker 4: race if he if he's serious about it, if he's
Speaker 4: truly serious, about it. I'm not talking about you just
Speaker 4: talking on the internet and you ain't actually coming to
Speaker 4: me and talking to my agent and saying, let's say
Speaker 4: something else. You are seriously about it. I like that.
Speaker 4: You'll see me on the track.
Speaker 1: He's a two time Olympic champ at fifteen hundred meters.
Speaker 1: He's a one time Olympic gold medalist at eight hundred meters,
Speaker 1: and he won the silver medal in the eight hundred
Speaker 1: me in the parish. He swam swam at the University
Speaker 1: of Florida under the Great Anthony Nesty, and he saved
Speaker 1: the men because had he not won a gold medal,
Speaker 1: there'll been the first time since nineteen hundred no individual
Speaker 1: man had won a swimming gold medal. Welcome to the show,
Speaker 1: Bobby Me Bobby, how you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm Dan good.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: And over one hundred years, had you not did what
Speaker 1: you did, the men would have been shut out of
Speaker 1: the individual goals.
Speaker 3: Did that add pressure to you? Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean I'm someone who personally likes reading all the
Speaker 8: comments and everything, so I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, he's like major news site. I was.
Speaker 8: I was going through like every article, reading every comment
Speaker 8: and everything, and like there's a bunch of comment says
Speaker 8: saying like Bobby better be listening to like Lose Yourself
Speaker 8: on repeat right now or something, because he's a last chance.
Speaker 8: I knew about the record going in before I knew
Speaker 8: how hard it was going to be, and you know,
Speaker 8: I'm just fortunate enough I was able to get it
Speaker 8: done because I did not want my name attached to
Speaker 8: that for that to be no down.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we got it done.
Speaker 9: Though, Are there any mental strategies that you go through
Speaker 9: to prepare for a high competition race, especially like for
Speaker 9: one represent an entire country, the Open, Paris Is, the Olympics.
Speaker 9: None of us have meddled in all the pressure in
Speaker 9: the eyes of riding on you. Are there are there
Speaker 9: any mental strategies that you do, any superstitions.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if I really got I call
Speaker 8: them like superstitions for me, but everything is really just
Speaker 8: how I prepare her for the race, especially over at
Speaker 8: the Olympic village. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 8: heard about, Like the food was very controversial.
Speaker 4: A bit.
Speaker 8: Food wasn't the best, but I had so much pasa
Speaker 8: just in the days leading up. I was carb looading,
Speaker 8: like crazy and I hate Pausa right like I oh
Speaker 8: my god. But like in the day leading up to
Speaker 8: that fifteen hundred, a lot of it was motivation of
Speaker 8: how angry I was after the hundred when I lost.
Speaker 8: Because a silver metal is great and everything. I understand that,
Speaker 8: but like for me to down out was pissed after
Speaker 8: that race because I didn't win, and I needed that
Speaker 8: kind of fire in me to be motivated for the
Speaker 8: fifteen hundred because I want to stand on top of
Speaker 8: that podium. I want to hear the national anthem. I
Speaker 8: haven't heard much all meat and I need to hear
Speaker 8: it and I need to do it for our team.
Speaker 8: And you know, behind the blocks, I was just telling
Speaker 8: myself to stay calm, but the not like a power
Speaker 8: is in you, but like you know what to do
Speaker 8: and you know how to swim, You've done it one
Speaker 8: hundred times. It's really a whole mental game you're having
Speaker 8: with your brain is just telling yourself that you know
Speaker 8: you've done it, you.
Speaker 4: Can do it again. It's nothing new to you.
Speaker 1: When you look at the situation and when you broke
Speaker 1: the world record, you really and you didn't get normally
Speaker 1: when people break world records, they're getting pushed. You finished
Speaker 1: four seconds ahead, But I mean, what the hell, let
Speaker 1: me just like you have, like you have a motor
Speaker 1: boat and they had paddles, And so I'm watching you
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing your stroke and it's so smooth when
Speaker 1: you're swimming in a race of that distance. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: you got the fifty meters and you got one hundred meters,
Speaker 1: you got the different strokes, but when you're fifteen hundred meters,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time for you to be in
Speaker 1: your own head.
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about when you when you're swimming
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred meters.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I normally race my competition and I'll start
Speaker 8: behind them for the most part, or I'll stay right
Speaker 8: next to them. So I like the one hundred the
Speaker 8: two hundred, when I had like a body like lead,
Speaker 8: I was kind of like, what's going on right now
Speaker 8: because there's just so abnormal for me. But I could
Speaker 8: kind to see the scoreboard a little bit when I
Speaker 8: was racing, and on the scoreboard they were showing the
Speaker 8: world record line. So I was kind of mentally racing
Speaker 8: back the whole time, and I was mentally racing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I saw the world record line like three times during
Speaker 8: the race, and that kept me going in the race
Speaker 8: so hard. But also like I'm very aware of like
Speaker 8: what is going around me. So I knew Greg Pationary,
Speaker 8: the Italian who was in lane five, two lanes over,
Speaker 8: I knew he started to inch up on me a lot.
Speaker 8: And same thing with Daniel Within, the Island representative who
Speaker 8: won the eight hundred previously. I knew he started to
Speaker 8: catch Greg a bit. I was kind of peeking over there,
Speaker 8: but I knew as long as I stood or stay
Speaker 8: ahead of Greg, that I would be able to stay
Speaker 8: ahead of Dan. So I was kind of keeping it.
Speaker 8: That mental is just like just stay ahead of them.
Speaker 8: I don't have to be too far away from them
Speaker 8: or like drop back to be at their pace. I
Speaker 8: just needed to stay right ahead of them, and that
Speaker 8: that was.
Speaker 4: Really a big mental game for me.
Speaker 8: It was just trying to, you know, be aware where
Speaker 8: they are even though they're behind me, make sure I
Speaker 8: have a safe distance from them. So that's really what
Speaker 8: I was smoking on.
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Speaker 11: So by the time oh wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait,
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Speaker 3: Whatever you want to do.
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Speaker 9: Hey, if you can beat me, it's all yours. Oh congratulations, though, man,
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Speaker 1: But I'm proud of you, bro. Congratulations what you've been
Speaker 1: able to accomplish thus far. Stay healthy, good luck down
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Speaker 1: Olympics in l A. So we look forward to follow
Speaker 1: your career. Continue success, bro, and congratulations again on your
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Speaker 3: No, you got.
Speaker 4: Guys. Oh wow, you guys are amazing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Jesus, you know you're writing, you're writing clear Water right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 6: I live in Miami.
Speaker 4: How far are you from me?
Speaker 8: Uh about four and a half hours.
Speaker 3: Oh see you more?
Speaker 7: You more like Orlando down that way?
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm near.
Speaker 4: It's just because sorry, I.
Speaker 8: Think it's just because of the way you have to
Speaker 8: get to Miami, right right, because you gotta like not
Speaker 8: straight through the other everyblades you have to go to
Speaker 8: like Naples first, and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we catch up.
Speaker 4: We'll catch up. We gotta we gotta, we gotta gotta.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean, you guys are already legendary in your sport,
Speaker 8: but you guys are legendary for this.
Speaker 1: I can't think you got any success. Then enjoy you, know,
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, thank thank you.
Speaker 8: I appreciate everything you guys have done for your sports
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Speaker 1: We have a very special guest joining us, the reigning
Speaker 1: two hundred meter Olympic champ. She's a member of the
Speaker 1: winning World championship four by one. She ran a blistering
Speaker 1: third leg. They qualified this morning with the fastest time,
Speaker 1: even though they had a little hiccup between t T
Speaker 1: and herself with the exchange. They're gonna correct that, gonna
Speaker 1: on another gold medal. We're going to talk about her
Speaker 1: possibly running on the four, running a leg on the
Speaker 1: four by four.
Speaker 3: Welcome us, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Gabby Thomas has a undergrad degree and neurobiology and she
Speaker 1: has a master master's degree in epidemiology.
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: And she's currently at the Austin where she serves underprivileged
Speaker 1: underprivileged women.
Speaker 3: Is that correct? Also?
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, I volunteer at a healthcare clinic where I
Speaker 12: provide healthcare services to people who.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how much pressure? Because you
Speaker 1: got the bronze at at the last Olympics, you got
Speaker 1: the silver. If I'm not mistaken at the past Worlds,
Speaker 1: you're the face of this big ad with Toyota. You're
Speaker 1: the face of this now, Jerika Jackson, she steps out.
Speaker 1: That's even because there was pressure on you to do
Speaker 1: better than what you did at the last Olympics. Now
Speaker 1: Sri Rika has withdrawn. Now there's a ton of pressure.
Speaker 1: We had Justin Gallan, who the a world champion and
Speaker 1: an Olympic champ. We had Michael Johnson, the world champ
Speaker 1: and an Olympic champ. He said, sometimes the things that
Speaker 1: can wait an individual of an athlete down is expectations.
Speaker 1: How much what type of birden were the expectations. You're
Speaker 1: the face of this Toyota ad. Okay, gabble you out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: we see you. You better bring home going.
Speaker 12: I know everyone kept texting me talking about, oh, I
Speaker 12: see you on Toyota everywhere, like before trials.
Speaker 4: Even before I even made the Olympic teas.
Speaker 12: Yes, you know, they were showing my face on the
Speaker 12: Toyota ads everywhere. So I hadn't even become like the
Speaker 12: Olympian yet. So there is definitely a lot of pressure.
Speaker 12: And for me in twenty twenty one, like coming from
Speaker 12: Harvard and not having any you know, medals or having
Speaker 12: made any USA team, it was just a lot of
Speaker 12: fun for me. Like I was going out there and
Speaker 12: running and no one had any expectations. So I was
Speaker 12: having a great time. I was like, all right, let's go,
Speaker 12: let's go line up next to Alison Felix, Let's go
Speaker 12: see what happens.
Speaker 13: It'll be great.
Speaker 12: And then as soon as I made the Olympic team changed,
Speaker 12: and then as soon as I got a bronze medal, right,
Speaker 12: it changed. Now suddenly people are talking about, Okay, if
Speaker 12: you don't meddle, now you know that's an L. Right,
Speaker 12: if you don't make this team next year, you know
Speaker 12: that's a big L. And so it immediately changed my mindset.
Speaker 12: And then even going into this year, yeah, I'm going
Speaker 12: in as a favorite and there I mean, I was
Speaker 12: telling people before I even stepped up to the line
Speaker 12: for my prelim, I have never felt this type of
Speaker 12: pressure before in my entire life. I mean, you walk,
Speaker 12: you walk out there and you're just you're by yourself,
Speaker 12: like you don't have a team to take that loss
Speaker 12: with you. If someone messes up, there's no there's no redo,
Speaker 12: there's no next play, there's none of that. It's like,
Speaker 12: all right, you're gonna go out there by yourself in
Speaker 12: front of eighty thousand people, and then you know the
Speaker 12: millions of people watching at home. And if you don't
Speaker 12: get it right in this one moment, especially in the
Speaker 12: short sperence, it's over. So it's definitely a lot of pressure.
Speaker 12: But for me, I practice like I meditate. I practice
Speaker 12: like focus. So if you can dissociate in that moment,
Speaker 12: you know that separates the good athletes from the great athletes.
Speaker 12: If you're over there on the line thinking about how
Speaker 12: many people are watching you, you're gonna mess up, and
Speaker 12: you can you can see it in people's faces when
Speaker 12: they line up to the line. You can see you
Speaker 12: can tell when you're watching an athlete. You look in
Speaker 12: their eyes and you can see like, Okay, this person
Speaker 12: has figured it out. They're about to knock this race out.
Speaker 12: And someone who's scared and like, all right, this is
Speaker 12: going to be they don't have to fight for this.
Speaker 3: Are they anymore world records that the Americans can get?
Speaker 1: Will you guys challenge that that forty point eight two
Speaker 1: that the women ran in Beijing?
Speaker 3: Is that possible?
Speaker 1: Can we see sid in film cabol Lord that fifty
Speaker 1: point sixty five in the four hundred meter hurdles for
Speaker 1: the women. Will we see Carston Warholme, Rob Benjamin, you
Speaker 1: have Alison dos Santo's, we have a samba of tutter.
Speaker 1: Will we see anybody go up on the world record
Speaker 1: in any of the remaining sprints? American?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 12: I think, I think you're definitely. I think y'all are
Speaker 12: going to have to open up your wallets a little
Speaker 12: bit because.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, you're spending our money, Gavin.
Speaker 12: I hate, I hate to say it, but I do think.
Speaker 12: I mean, I think the four by one girls we
Speaker 12: can definitely challenge the world record, the previous world record team.
Speaker 12: They spoke to us just last week about it, and
Speaker 12: I think we are very capable. And the hurdles, yeah,
Speaker 12: it's a rap. It's a rap tonight. I don't know
Speaker 12: if it's gonna be some there Sydney, but I think
Speaker 12: it'll definitely go down.
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna have to run low fit.
Speaker 1: If if Filmkua beat said she's gonna have to go
Speaker 1: low fifty, maybe even sub fifty.
Speaker 3: Sydney is ing.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in great form. She's in great shape,
Speaker 1: she's a flawless I mean, she can run, she can
Speaker 1: run the one team. She can run the hurdle the
Speaker 1: lower for the women and be good her technique thing
Speaker 1: she wants. She has tremendous sprint coming into it. That
Speaker 1: twenty two oh seven. That's still like what the eighth
Speaker 1: or ninth best time run at two hundred meters. She's
Speaker 1: run forty eight seventy five at four hundred meters. She's
Speaker 1: probably if you run a work at it, get a
Speaker 1: start right. She might be sub eleven at one hundred meters.
Speaker 1: And I know film is unbelievable. She ran a blistering
Speaker 1: sub forty eight split on the anchor leg. We've seen
Speaker 1: the win the world indoor at forty nine seventeen, but
Speaker 1: see it is a different. If this is an upset,
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody tells you. If Film Cabo
Speaker 1: beats sending mclachland Levroni in the four hundred meters hurdles,
Speaker 1: this is a huge upset.
Speaker 4: Ain't happening.
Speaker 9: Ain't happening in Captain, oh sir, one thing sid gonna do.
Speaker 9: Like you said, it's all about moments, and whenever that
Speaker 9: moment has been good, she shows up to the cave. Yeah,
Speaker 9: already shows up.
Speaker 3: That's one thing Bobby.
Speaker 1: The one thing if you go back and study Bobby
Speaker 1: Cursey's history, his runners at big meets, they perform, if
Speaker 1: they if they if they line up, they run, they
Speaker 1: run well. And so that's not the short change Filmica,
Speaker 1: because she's been unbelievable. I actually kind of want to
Speaker 1: see that thing come down in the four hundred meters,
Speaker 1: the four by four. I won't see it in film.
Speaker 1: Could have get the baton at the same time, and
Speaker 1: let's see what happened. Let's see what really about. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I told you we're gonna try to make this thing
Speaker 1: the real Olympics. We're gonna have people that actually participated
Speaker 1: in the Paris Olympics, and we're gonna get we were
Speaker 1: gonna going to have former greats. The guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: talk with us for about forty five minutes today is
Speaker 1: a former two time world champion two hundred meters. He's
Speaker 1: a former four time champion a four hundred meters.
Speaker 3: He was a.
Speaker 1: Former world world record holder at two hundred meters, at
Speaker 1: three hundred meters at four hundred meters. He's still the
Speaker 1: current American record holder at three hundred meters and four
Speaker 1: hundred meters and he ran the anchor leg on.
Speaker 3: The world breaking.
Speaker 1: World championship four hundred meter relay team of two minutes
Speaker 1: fifty four. He's a two time Olympic gold medal in
Speaker 1: four hundred meters. He's a one time Olympic champ at
Speaker 1: two hundred meters. He's the only man to successfully depend
Speaker 1: his four hundred meters crown and back to back Olympics
Speaker 1: in ninety six and two thousand and he's the only
Speaker 1: man currently to win the four hundred and the two
Speaker 1: hundred in the same Olympics. One of the greatest printers
Speaker 1: in the history of sprinting, arguably the greatest printer in
Speaker 1: American history.
Speaker 14: Michael Johns, good to see vote Man, good to see you.
Speaker 6: I haven't talked to both of you guys in a while.
Speaker 3: Mike.
Speaker 1: When you hear the accolades, you know, four time world
Speaker 1: champion four hundred meters, two time world champion two hundred meters,
Speaker 1: a two time Olympic champion, four Olympic champion, two back
Speaker 1: to back, nobody into history. The game's been going on
Speaker 1: since eighteen ninety six. And we see some young guys
Speaker 1: come in and they win the four hundred. Early in
Speaker 1: their career at eighteen, I mean nineteen twenty years of
Speaker 1: age and can't replicate that you did it later in
Speaker 1: your career. Why has it been so hard for men
Speaker 1: and women to repeat? I mean it's more common in
Speaker 1: women repeating, But why has it been so hard for
Speaker 1: men to repeat.
Speaker 3: The four hundred?
Speaker 14: It's some difficulty event, man, It's difficult for people to
Speaker 14: get consistent in that event. You'll see somebody come out
Speaker 14: run forty three seconds, become a forty three second a
Speaker 14: four hundred runner, But then you'll see them in some
Speaker 14: races running forty four high, forty four mid, not consistently
Speaker 14: under forty three seconds. The four hundred meters is one
Speaker 14: of those races where you need to be consistent in
Speaker 14: order to deliver that type of performance when it counts
Speaker 14: at the Olympic Games. And what happens is is you
Speaker 14: have somebody run the Olympics, they get it right then,
Speaker 14: and then if you see them in those races outside
Speaker 14: of the championships being very inconsistent running forty four highs
Speaker 14: and that sort of thing, then there's a likely chance
Speaker 14: that when they get back to that next championship, they're
Speaker 14: going to run worse not better, it's just the way
Speaker 14: that it goes. You have to try to get consistent
Speaker 14: with that event. It's a really difficult event to run
Speaker 14: because it's such a long sprint. There's a lot of
Speaker 14: room for area. There's a lot of ways to make
Speaker 14: mistakes in that race. It's hard to get it right,
Speaker 14: easy to get it wrong.
Speaker 1: How different is running a four hundred as a two,
Speaker 1: because we understand two is half the distance of four,
Speaker 1: But what's the difference? Because you were able you kind
Speaker 1: of started like at a two hundred. You won the
Speaker 1: first world championship at two hundred meters in ninety one,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and then built up, and then
Speaker 1: you got the courage to say.
Speaker 3: I can do both.
Speaker 1: I can in the Olympics, buddy, You know how what
Speaker 1: kind of brass cohoonas you.
Speaker 3: Gotta have to say I could beat the world's best.
Speaker 1: At four and two in the same Yeah, it's probably
Speaker 1: never gonna be done again on the man's side.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So a couple of people have tried since since
Speaker 14: I did it. Nobody even tried before I did it.
Speaker 14: You couldn't even the schedule wouldn't even allow for it.
Speaker 14: So I had to get them to get them to
Speaker 14: change the schedule. But yeah, I started as a two
Speaker 14: hundred meter runner, but when I was at Baylor, I
Speaker 14: was on the fourth by four and I was always
Speaker 14: splitting forty three. So I knew I could run four hundred.
Speaker 14: But like in college, you always you can't really go
Speaker 14: back and forth between the two and the four very
Speaker 14: much because you're always preparing for got to qualify for nationals.
Speaker 14: You gotta get ready for conference, you know, in dooring,
Speaker 14: then the same thing I'll do in the Both of
Speaker 14: those seasons are pretty short. But I knew I could
Speaker 14: run the four hundred. Then when I when I started
Speaker 14: my professional career, I was primarily two hundred, but I
Speaker 14: was running four hundreds at meets on the Grand Prix circuit,
Speaker 14: and I was running low forty twos bring number one
Speaker 14: in the world. But the first couple of championships, like
Speaker 14: that ninety one championship, like you talked about Sharnon, so
Speaker 14: I chose the two hundred, major team in the two hundred,
Speaker 14: won the world championship in the two hundred. But I'm
Speaker 14: sitting there in the stands and I'm seeing Antonio Pettigrew
Speaker 14: win the four hundred meters. I'm like, I'd been beating
Speaker 14: him all season. I should be the world champion in
Speaker 14: the four hundred, but I can't run the four hundred.
Speaker 14: Now somebody else's world champion. So I was telling my
Speaker 14: coach then like, you know, I want to run both,
Speaker 14: and he was saying coach was like, yeah, we can
Speaker 14: do both. We just got to get him to, you know,
Speaker 14: work out the schedule for us. So over time that became,
Speaker 14: you know, my thing, I'm gonna go to the championship.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna run the both to two and the four.
Speaker 14: Nobody had done that before. The races are very different
Speaker 14: the two hundred meters as are all I sprint. For
Speaker 14: most people, there's you know, some of the guys that's
Speaker 14: one hundred meter runners that's not really don't have that
Speaker 14: type of speed endurance to be able to a hole
Speaker 14: that they can't run the whole thing. But if you
Speaker 14: come from like me, like having a four hundred background
Speaker 14: as well, I can run the whole thing. So the difference,
Speaker 14: you know, is there's less room for marchin marchin for
Speaker 14: era in the two hundred. You may be able to
Speaker 14: make one adjustment in that race because it's so short
Speaker 14: nineteen seconds, whereas in the four hundred you can make
Speaker 14: all kinds of adjustments. The problem is there's more room
Speaker 14: for error. In the four hundred. You're gonna make it.
Speaker 14: You can make a lot of mistakes, and you probably will.
Speaker 14: Where's the two hundred, it's much more technical.
Speaker 1: In ninety three, I think that was the time that
Speaker 1: you guys broke the world record at the World at
Speaker 1: the World Championship in the two in the four hundred,
Speaker 1: in the four by four, Andrew Vahman led it off.
Speaker 1: I think he ran split forty four to five. Uh,
Speaker 1: he passed the Quincy Watts. I think Quincy ran sub
Speaker 1: forty three to five.
Speaker 3: He passed it.
Speaker 1: The Butcher rentals and then with you with nothing to prove, Mike,
Speaker 1: you got it.
Speaker 3: You guys have got this.
Speaker 1: You already got a thirty minute, you got already got
Speaker 1: a thirty meter lead.
Speaker 3: They hand you the baton, you go, what's going through
Speaker 3: your mind?
Speaker 1: Because that was the first time in the history that
Speaker 1: somebody had a sub forty three split into four hundred meters.
Speaker 3: You stepped on the gas. I think you ran forty
Speaker 3: two nine.
Speaker 1: What's going through your mind as you're going around the
Speaker 1: track and you got nothing. You got a thirty to lead, Mike,
Speaker 1: What possessed you to do what you did?
Speaker 6: This is a story. This is crazy.
Speaker 14: So we broke the world record the year before nineteen
Speaker 14: ninety two, right, we just broke it by a little bit.
Speaker 14: Nineteen ninety two Olympics. I ran the two hundred. I
Speaker 14: didn't run the four hundred at the trials. I make
Speaker 14: the team in the two hundred. There's a debate about
Speaker 14: whether or not I should be on the four by
Speaker 14: four hundred meter.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 14: You go back the year before that, nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 14: my first world championship in the two hundred, US lost
Speaker 14: the four by four hundred meter relate to Great Britain
Speaker 14: because they did put me on that reading.
Speaker 3: Yes, the herd ran down, ran down you exactly right.
Speaker 14: Chris Akabusi ran down. Pettigrew, the team coach that year,
Speaker 14: didn't like me, so he said, hey, we don't need
Speaker 14: Michael Johnson on our by four hundred meter relay. He
Speaker 14: didn't run the four hundred meters at the trials. We
Speaker 14: don't need to put him on. We can win it
Speaker 14: without him. I'm raating number one in the world undefeated
Speaker 14: for two years. Right, he does not put me on
Speaker 14: the four by four. They lose The next year in
Speaker 14: nineteen ninety two, I'm on the four by four. I
Speaker 14: got food poison right before the Olympics. You remember this, Shannon,
Speaker 14: we talked about this, so I do back then what happened.
Speaker 14: So I got food poison, didn't make the final in
Speaker 14: the two hundred. They's like, we still need you on
Speaker 14: the four box four. I'm like, man, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 14: I'm not even I'm a shell of myself. I can't
Speaker 14: even run that fast right now, they're like a seventy
Speaker 14: five percent Michael Johnson is better than anybody else. So
Speaker 14: let's go each on the street lift Like, okay, So
Speaker 14: my split in ninety two when we broke the world record,
Speaker 14: I was the weak leg on that relay.
Speaker 6: I still remember. I remember lost weight.
Speaker 14: I'm still feeling I think I split like forty four
Speaker 14: nine or maybe even forty five flat. It was horrible,
Speaker 14: but we still broke the world record. So fast forward
Speaker 14: to what you're talking about. Ninety three. I had just
Speaker 14: won the four hundred, beat all of those guys. Now
Speaker 14: we're coming together in the four by four. Yeah, at
Speaker 14: that point, it's like I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
Speaker 14: make up for last year. And then also if we
Speaker 14: broke the world record last year with me at forty
Speaker 14: five flat, if I can put it down like what
Speaker 14: I'm normally used to doing, We're gonna put this world
Speaker 14: record to a point where I ain't know we got
Speaker 14: anybody gonna break it for thirty years. And that's where
Speaker 14: we are today. Nobody else still broke that record because
Speaker 14: those guys a grand fast man, I ran forty two
Speaker 14: nine on the anchor.
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on the current state of track
Speaker 9: and field right now? And how do you see it
Speaker 9: evolving based on where we are now? Because you did
Speaker 9: just say it comes in waves, it goes and wave.
Speaker 9: Do you think we're right on the on the on
Speaker 9: the right track to kind of dominate in the sport again?
Speaker 9: And maybe the one, the two and obviously the four.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good of course. Oho.
Speaker 14: So look, the Jamaican has been taking it to us
Speaker 14: for the last city, you know, I mean you got
Speaker 14: to give them credit. I mean this is a nation
Speaker 14: of less than three million people and they go toe
Speaker 14: to toe and sometimes, like I said, and for the
Speaker 14: last sixteen years they've been handing it to a nation
Speaker 14: of three hundred million people. That's crazy. What else does that.
Speaker 14: It's amazing. That's why the Jamaican brand from a sprint
Speaker 14: standpoint is so significant. They're known around the world as
Speaker 14: the sprint Capitol. They got great coaches, they got a
Speaker 14: lot of talent, and it used to be back when
Speaker 14: I was in college, all of the Jamaican athletes will
Speaker 14: come to the US for better training in facilities. Around
Speaker 14: two thousand and six seven they stopped.
Speaker 6: They started.
Speaker 14: They got some great coaches down there and they started saying, hey,
Speaker 14: just stay at home, we'll train you here. And that's
Speaker 14: when you saw that explosion. So you know, and it's
Speaker 14: just been it's been. It's been amazing. But you know,
Speaker 14: for us as the US, we saw what happened here
Speaker 14: in Paris. You know Noah Spread you know those guys,
Speaker 14: I mean, it's not in him. And look to Jamaicas
Speaker 14: have found some new talent. Shane Thompson, Vicolo Bleak, Bigsville,
Speaker 14: those guys, they got some talent. You know, they had
Speaker 14: a little bit of a boid after Boat left, but
Speaker 14: now they got some more talent. But us got some
Speaker 14: too on the men's side. On the women's side, the
Speaker 14: Jamaicans have been it's been ridiculous. I've never seen a
Speaker 14: situation where they had two of the greatest sprinders of
Speaker 14: all time and then found another one on top of
Speaker 14: that with Shrikan and converted her from a four hundred
Speaker 14: meters to a one hundred two hundred meters sprend and
Speaker 14: then now you got another one. It was just it's
Speaker 14: been crazy that that's that doesn't happen all at the time.
Speaker 14: So now what we're seeing is okay, those they you know,
Speaker 14: Elaine is pretty much done. Her body's just not going
Speaker 14: to be able to former coach you even said that
Speaker 14: her body's just not gonna be able to do that anymore.
Speaker 14: So she's probably on out and I'm probably going to
Speaker 14: retire here soon. Shelley Anne is done. She's the greatest
Speaker 14: of all time. She's done enough. She's retiring after this year.
Speaker 14: And so so this is the first time like in
Speaker 14: this women's two hundred last night the other day, I mean,
Speaker 14: Gaby Wantaby, there was no woman Jamaican woman in that
Speaker 14: in that final, and a Jamaican woman has I saw
Speaker 14: this stat the other day a Jamaican woman has medaled
Speaker 14: in the two hundred every year, every Olympic year since
Speaker 14: nineteen seventy six. So it goes in stages and goes
Speaker 14: in ways. I think the US is at a position where,
Speaker 14: I mean, we're always at the top of the medal table.
Speaker 14: But the events you talked about, Ocho, the sprints a
Speaker 14: bit of an employ for US in the last few years.
Speaker 14: But I think it's yeah, it's coming back. That's coming back.
Speaker 1: We got the world record silver medal winning four by
Speaker 1: four mixed relay Vernon Norwood, Bryce Deadman, Kylen Brown, and
Speaker 1: Samir little Burn. I'm gonna start with you, you the
Speaker 1: elder statesman here going into that, Did you guys think
Speaker 1: you could set the world record and qualifying and what
Speaker 1: was your strategy going here? Obviously you want to qualify,
Speaker 1: but did you think world record was a possibility.
Speaker 15: To sin We already talked about it like before. Once
Speaker 15: we saw the lineup and the talent that we had,
Speaker 15: we was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: We world record gone.
Speaker 15: Because we knew world record was going to win the
Speaker 15: race anyway, so we like we just go out there
Speaker 15: and do our thing. I mean, from me starting all
Speaker 15: getting into Shamir to Bryce the KK I.
Speaker 6: Mean, I already knew wor record was gone.
Speaker 15: So and then we heard y'all comment about you know,
Speaker 15: y'all coming out with this cave.
Speaker 16: They're trying out that easy look look because the line,
Speaker 16: I said, O, yeah, I might hear him out right now.
Speaker 3: Tell that to the guys.
Speaker 1: Did y'all know Bryce that when he got back to
Speaker 1: his room, he d M me about running my mother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that man, that man DM me right here.
Speaker 17: I don't know, no you, I said, town, I heard
Speaker 17: y'all was talking about a little time on the show.
Speaker 15: I was like, man, hold up, man, let me see
Speaker 15: them boys come to the world. I'm like them boss
Speaker 15: from around the waist. So I known they're gonna come through.
Speaker 15: And then y'all asked you came down like damn, y'all
Speaker 15: some real ones.
Speaker 6: Man preciate.
Speaker 1: And then there's a mutual friend he hit up a
Speaker 1: mutual friends said, man, I'm trying to get it unk.
Speaker 17: I don't know if you go see my DM. Hey, yeah, y'all, Hey,
Speaker 17: it's all love. Hey, y'all, good, y'all come down to
Speaker 17: that roode. I got y'all, God, you got some love.
Speaker 17: The crew at Nightcab here and myself and Ohow and
Speaker 17: all of our subscribers and listeners and followers. Man, we
Speaker 17: wanted to show you guys that we really appreciate what
Speaker 17: you do.
Speaker 3: The hard work, the.
Speaker 1: Sacrifices, the time away from your family, the times that
Speaker 1: you don't feel like training, that you go out there
Speaker 1: and you push yourself other than you ever thought you could.
Speaker 1: And so for us at night it was an It
Speaker 1: was easy because to run a world record that.
Speaker 3: Means everybody contributed.
Speaker 1: Everybody did their part, and we wanted to hear at
Speaker 1: Nightcap wanted to say thank you, not only not only
Speaker 1: for your effort, but for what you've given before that race,
Speaker 1: because the race is the easy part. The hard part
Speaker 1: is the training up to the race. And so from us,
Speaker 1: from the bottom of our heart here at Nightcap, thank
Speaker 1: each and every one of you.
Speaker 3: Every last.
Speaker 9: Makes makes su y'all get some McDonald's with that money, now.
Speaker 16: Hit me up, burning money. I ain't rocking like that, man.
Speaker 16: I'm telling you that.
Speaker 1: He's been chasing Carston Warholme, the world record holder, for
Speaker 1: the better part of three years, and he finally tracked
Speaker 1: down the Norwegian and the Rye here you, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: your four hundred meter hurdle champ with a time of
Speaker 1: forty six. Right, Benjamin Sir, Obviously you have an outstanding season.
Speaker 1: You have been performing really really well. Give us your
Speaker 1: mindset going into the Olympics. You had raised him. I
Speaker 1: think you raised him once before at a Diamond League
Speaker 1: meet pre Limpic, and so you had.
Speaker 3: To feel good because you.
Speaker 1: Beat him, and you had beaten him three times since
Speaker 1: he last beat you, I think at the at the Olympics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in Budapest, they won Budapest last year, and then
Speaker 5: we went to Prefontaine.
Speaker 7: I won that meet. Then we went to Monaco before
Speaker 7: the Olympics. That was a big one. We were all there.
Speaker 7: I won that one.
Speaker 5: So going into the Olympics, I was I felt really confident.
Speaker 5: I was calm. I really trusted myself. I think mentally
Speaker 5: I was in a way different place.
Speaker 7: Than I was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I CONTU had previous years and previous seasons, so
Speaker 5: I mean I just I went in. I had the confidence,
Speaker 5: you know, like I felt good. Energy in the stadium
Speaker 5: was ridiculous. It was actually like.
Speaker 7: I've been to a lot of football games.
Speaker 5: I've been to win the death Valley lsu okay, and
Speaker 5: I have never heard a stadium get that loud in
Speaker 5: my entire life. It was crazy. So it was it was.
Speaker 5: It was a phenomenal, phenomenal experience. So just you know,
Speaker 5: I went in with a completely different mindset and I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, like I'm I'm the guy to beat
Speaker 5: and the only person that's going to beat me is me.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I have a question speaking of that race
Speaker 9: at the Olympics, did you understand his strengths and weaknesses
Speaker 9: and did you have any type of strategic game plan
Speaker 9: going into that race and knowing what to do and
Speaker 9: when when the kind of hit it, when the back off.
Speaker 5: I think the three four years we raced so much
Speaker 5: so I have seen every single race plan, every race strategy,
Speaker 5: and I think for me, right, uh, were the three
Speaker 5: of us are so good that very little separates us,
Speaker 5: and it's it's about who could be on on that day,
Speaker 5: who's going to get it on that day? And I think,
Speaker 5: you know, throughout the entire cycle of the Semis, I
Speaker 5: mean the heat Semis finals, you know, I got dealt
Speaker 5: the right hand and and those guys were now ran
Speaker 5: fast like the first two rounds, So I knew being
Speaker 5: out in lane eight, I was going to be the
Speaker 5: one to kind of dictate what the race would look like.
Speaker 5: So in my head I was like, all right, like
Speaker 5: I need to I need I need to really push
Speaker 5: the pace, but not do too much so I have
Speaker 5: enough to come home that last one hundred and meters. Yes,
Speaker 5: when when when? When we got out, like he gets
Speaker 5: out really really hard, so he covered me a little bit,
Speaker 5: and my whole thing was all right, just run in
Speaker 5: lane eight, like focus on your your ten hurdles and
Speaker 5: your lane and get off that turn, like put your
Speaker 5: foot in the ground and just go. And then coach
Speaker 5: Watts coachy watch. He has a we have this we
Speaker 5: joke around sometimes and he's like, yeah, if it's leaving,
Speaker 5: I'm leaving. So we got off. We got off hurdle seven,
Speaker 5: and I was like, all right, man, I'm out of here. Man,
Speaker 5: So whatever happens happens. And I don't know if you
Speaker 5: guys saw, but like I was coming out yet off
Speaker 5: of seven and I stumbled a little bit. I was
Speaker 5: running so fast that like the centrifugal force pulled me
Speaker 5: out to the outside of the lane and I kind
Speaker 5: of like stumbled a little bit and I think that
Speaker 5: kind of costed me like maybe forty six flat. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, like I just had so much momentum,
Speaker 5: I just kept going. So that was just that was
Speaker 5: my uh, that was my game plan going in. To
Speaker 5: be honest with you, just run my pattern. Do what
Speaker 5: I've been doing in the entire season. I mean, Uncle,
Speaker 5: we talked, you know, Uncle, send me a message sometimes
Speaker 5: after the race, even if it went good or bad.
Speaker 7: So I mean, yeah, it was, it was. It was phenomenal, man.
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 7: I'm on cloud nine right now.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: We had Michael Johnson on and I remember in Stutgart
Speaker 1: when they broke the world record into four hundred meters,
Speaker 1: they ran two fifty four to twenty nine.
Speaker 3: And I can go back in my head.
Speaker 1: I know Andrew Bauman laid off with forty four five
Speaker 1: and he went to Quincy, your coach, and I think
Speaker 1: he ran forty three three, forty three five. He had
Speaker 1: it to the world record holder at the time, Butcher
Speaker 1: rentals and he ran low forty forty three.
Speaker 3: The race was blown over.
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson got the baton and he said, because we
Speaker 1: had almost broke the world record where we broke it,
Speaker 1: but I ran like mid forty four, almost forty five.
Speaker 1: Because I was asking him, I saying, Mike, you do
Speaker 1: realize you ran sub forty three with a thirty minute lead,
Speaker 1: with a thirty of me to lead. And I said why.
Speaker 1: He said, because I didn't want to hear their miles.
Speaker 1: He said they had talked about me so bad, so
Speaker 1: he ran forty two nine. Did you think you guys
Speaker 1: had a chance going into that race? Did you think
Speaker 1: this was going to be the second fastest four hund
Speaker 1: into history?
Speaker 5: I thought we could have broken it last year. So
Speaker 5: after the past, like if you if you go to
Speaker 5: my Instagram, you look at my last relay post from Budapest,
Speaker 5: I was like, let's go after the world record next
Speaker 5: year because we had all we had all the pieces.
Speaker 5: Quincy's running well, V's running well. I mean I could
Speaker 5: get on the relay and give you a really hot split.
Speaker 5: Michael Norman, he was coming back to run well, Chris Bailey,
Speaker 5: Bryce Deadman, and then we had a little Quincy just
Speaker 5: like you know, just shoot up out of I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say out of nowhere, but like no
Speaker 5: one was expecting him to run forty four low and
Speaker 5: it's just phenomenal.
Speaker 7: So we had all the pieces.
Speaker 5: The issue is it's figuring out who to put on
Speaker 5: what leg to maximize those legs. And Okay, I think
Speaker 5: because Quincy had that little tweaking his hamstring in his final, like,
Speaker 5: we had to reshuffle the order. But I knew we
Speaker 5: still had the pieces because V had split forty three because.
Speaker 1: Twice in the mid and I knew well three times
Speaker 1: because he ran to mix Relay D Life and he
Speaker 1: opened and the qualify.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so V had the forty three in him.
Speaker 5: I knew. I knew Bryce had forty three in him
Speaker 5: as well too, because he was consistently running forty forty
Speaker 5: four lows. So I knew if if if Bryce lights
Speaker 5: come on, he's gonna bring that stick around because he's
Speaker 5: from TEXTA and M, so he's gonna run. And and
Speaker 5: it just all came down to what my leg would be.
Speaker 5: I actually wanted to run second this meet because I
Speaker 5: knew if I ran second, I would run forty two
Speaker 5: eight or forty two nine on that wow, because I.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just know second leg is the best.
Speaker 5: It's the best leg because you can on that tangent
Speaker 5: when you cut in, you can kind of cheat some
Speaker 5: meters if.
Speaker 7: You do it right all them second legs. But fast.
Speaker 5: I mean you still got to be fast to be
Speaker 5: on that second leg. But like, if you do it
Speaker 5: right and you run a good tingent, like I'm telling you,
Speaker 5: you can cheat it a little bit and you can
Speaker 5: get that split. So initially, so when that happened, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, coach Mike marsh came and was just like, hey, man, like,
Speaker 5: I need a.
Speaker 7: Dog on anchor leg because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you you had to be on ankle. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, Roth.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off, but r I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody could have hold Tobe could have
Speaker 1: held Tobago off other than you because you, like you said,
Speaker 1: you had a strategy. He didn't put you under the
Speaker 1: gun because of your pace. I think somebody else.
Speaker 3: Would have panicked.
Speaker 1: And if you panic in that situation, he gonna chase
Speaker 1: you down like the Great Britain did. Antonio Pettigrew. We
Speaker 1: saw low a good friend of mine, Angelo Taylor. Same
Speaker 1: thing in the Olympics if you panic on that anchor leg,
Speaker 1: because everybody got their board dog with an anchor right,
Speaker 1: so everybody can go. Sub forty three could go so
Speaker 1: a sub forty four on an anchor.
Speaker 7: Leg, gone it every single day as the first leg
Speaker 7: was forty three.
Speaker 5: Then them boys came to run. I ain't really can't.
Speaker 5: They were not playing out man, they were not playing around.
Speaker 3: So, oh, Joe, you didn't know this. But Ry was
Speaker 3: a quarterback, right what they play?
Speaker 5: I was a wide receiver. Yeah, my dad said the
Speaker 5: wrong thing. Yeah, I played wide receiver in free safety
Speaker 5: in high school. And I okay, yeah, yeah yeah, I
Speaker 5: was so what, okay.
Speaker 3: So why why did you give up football and went.
Speaker 5: To the track Because I'm from New York and people
Speaker 5: in New York don't get good scholarships.
Speaker 7: To go to big D one schools.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, So I was like I ran track and
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, like I wasn't really getting
Speaker 5: we weren't getting good recruits or recruiters coming out to
Speaker 5: my high school because we were small high school in
Speaker 5: Westchester County in New York. So you know, we had
Speaker 5: one or two guys like you know, go to big universities,
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like we were going to like l
Speaker 5: s U or or USC or a Clemson, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So it was just one of those
Speaker 5: things where you know, that was my avenue out, you know,
Speaker 5: and uh and I was really good at track my
Speaker 5: freshman year, so I just stuck with it.
Speaker 3: So you originally went to u c l A transfer.
Speaker 5: I thought about walking on, to be honest with you,
Speaker 5: but they were like, yeah, you gotta give it your
Speaker 5: trash scholarship because the title nine no way in hell.
Speaker 5: But uh yeah, like a part of me wish I
Speaker 5: played in college. To be honest, yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: pull a Tyreek and say like, you know, I'm fast
Speaker 5: and no or I could go catch a Yeah.
Speaker 3: How you know I'm after that? How you go ask
Speaker 3: you that.
Speaker 7: You believe that on the show. I'm tired of the
Speaker 7: no allowed slander. Man, that's my.
Speaker 3: Guy, Okay, we'll talk to him, talk to him about slander.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying like I can go out and do
Speaker 5: what you guys do and catch a ball across the middle.
Speaker 7: I know how hard it is.
Speaker 5: I know how hard it is to read plays and
Speaker 5: and and and memorize stuff and and go out there
Speaker 5: and put.
Speaker 7: Your body at risk every day. But Tyreek, you're not
Speaker 7: beating no in a hundred. Man.
Speaker 5: There's just no way. And you probably won't even beat
Speaker 5: the top collegiate guys man like they now.
Speaker 1: When it comes to men's skateboarding, there's no one more
Speaker 1: accomplished than this gentleman that we're about to sit down
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with now. He's from Davis, California,
Speaker 1: his name. You talk about world championships, you're talking about
Speaker 1: X game. When it comes to men's skateboarding. He is
Speaker 1: the de facto guy. He has his own Nike skateboarding
Speaker 1: shoe and Harry is Ladies and gentlemen, Niga, Houston, how
Speaker 1: you doing, Nija? You your first two rounds flawless, You
Speaker 1: land some huge tricks. You're in the moment and at
Speaker 1: that moment, tell us what's going through your mind? You
Speaker 1: got one more run to make, You're you're right now,
Speaker 1: you're in gold medal position. You just got one one
Speaker 1: more round, one round to go. What what's going through
Speaker 1: your mind at that moment? And then the pressures did
Speaker 1: you start to tense up? Did you start to feel
Speaker 1: the pressure.
Speaker 13: I mean, I like to say that I'm sure you
Speaker 13: guys feel this too. Is like anytime someone is very
Speaker 13: competitive and you care, you're gonna get gonna You're gonna
Speaker 13: feel the pressure, you know, that's just a part of
Speaker 13: caring about what we're doing, having that passion for what
Speaker 13: we do. So yeah, I mean I definitely felt the
Speaker 13: nerves out there, but I feel like I was handling
Speaker 13: it pretty well. Qualifiers went smoothly. First run in the finals,
Speaker 13: I landed my last trick sketchy, which really bummed out
Speaker 13: because I got eighty seven. If I would have landed
Speaker 13: the clean, I would have got a ninety. So the
Speaker 13: second run, I definitely had the pressure on me, was
Speaker 13: able to pull through. And then when it comes down
Speaker 13: to the trick section, it's I mean, it's I like
Speaker 13: to say that you go out there with with confidence,
Speaker 13: but you can't ever go out there expecting to land
Speaker 13: these tricks every single try because the stuff we're doing
Speaker 13: is just too technical and too difficult, and like so
Speaker 13: many things need to go right every time to land
Speaker 13: them every try. But it was it was going really
Speaker 13: good for me. I was in a good spot. I
Speaker 13: landed my first trick. I landed my second trick, which
Speaker 13: got a little bit of a low score because I
Speaker 13: also landed it a little bit sketchy. You could see
Speaker 13: that my backfoot was hanging off the board a little
Speaker 13: bit okay, but I still got a ninety three for
Speaker 13: that one since I was solid. And then that last trick, man.
Speaker 4: I was going for.
Speaker 13: It's called a switch hill cricket grinding down the hubba
Speaker 13: Hubba is a down down ledge and it's a trick
Speaker 13: that I've been looking forward to trying ever since I
Speaker 13: saw the design of.
Speaker 18: The course a few weeks before.
Speaker 13: Yeah, the trick I've been practicing a lot lately throughout
Speaker 13: the past couple of years. And man, I felt I
Speaker 13: felt really confident going into it. The first one didn't
Speaker 13: go so well, second one got a little closer, and
Speaker 13: then when it got down to the third one, that's
Speaker 13: when I got bumped down from being.
Speaker 18: In first to second, then to third.
Speaker 13: And honestly, I think back on it, and when I
Speaker 13: was dropping in, I got my headphones in. I like
Speaker 13: listening to house music, so good vibes, got the hype going.
Speaker 18: I felt.
Speaker 13: I felt good. Man, I felt really confident dropping into it.
Speaker 13: I felt like the energy was right. I didn't feel
Speaker 13: my legs shaking or anything like that. So it's hard
Speaker 13: to really pinpoint exactly what goes wrong in those situations
Speaker 13: to not be able to put down the trick, but man,
Speaker 13: really you can't. You can't think back on it too hard,
Speaker 13: and it'll just torture yourself because, like I said, the
Speaker 13: stuff we do on the skateboard is so technical that,
Speaker 13: like you know, it could be your your foot being
Speaker 13: in a slight wrong position, leaning back a little too much,
Speaker 13: going a little too fasts, going a little too slow.
Speaker 13: There's a lot of things that come into play there,
Speaker 13: and I feel like that's something about skateboarding that's really
Speaker 13: uh man, it's frustrating because I feel like, like what
Speaker 13: you guys do in football, it's like you make I mean,
Speaker 13: correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like you
Speaker 13: make a wrong a wrong play or a wrong move
Speaker 13: and you kind of know what you did wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, important.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 13: It's just it's so frustrating because if you just play
Speaker 13: it back in your.
Speaker 18: Head, you're like, damn, what went wrong? What could have
Speaker 18: done differently?
Speaker 13: But when it comes down to it, man, it's it's
Speaker 13: it's hard to stuff for doing out there, and it's
Speaker 13: not easy to land those trips.
Speaker 7: Every time.
Speaker 1: You've been credited with taking skateboarding from what Tony Hawk
Speaker 1: started four decades ago and making it more mainstream making
Speaker 1: it more popular. What was that transition like? Because everybody
Speaker 1: knows Tony Hawk is the godfather. I mean if there's
Speaker 1: a godfather of anything, he's the godfather of skateboarding. And
Speaker 1: you were you credited with like, Okay, it's mainstream. Now,
Speaker 1: we see it on television, now we see kid, it's
Speaker 1: in the Olympics. What more can you ask for? Because
Speaker 1: it's it's a global sport. Now what when you hear that?
Speaker 1: What does that make you feel?
Speaker 4: Nigic?
Speaker 13: I mean just being in the same you know, conversation
Speaker 13: or compared to it all to a guy like Tony
Speaker 13: Hawk is a is a true honor.
Speaker 18: My first skateboard ever was a Tony Hawk board. I
Speaker 18: grew up to with.
Speaker 13: His demos and being like, oh ship Tony, Like even
Speaker 13: though even though he wasn't a street skater, he was
Speaker 13: a bird scared the big rand, right.
Speaker 18: He was such an inspiration And I.
Speaker 13: Guarantee skateboarding would not be where it's at now in
Speaker 13: the Olympics if it wasn't for Tony Off. And yeah,
Speaker 13: I've heard some people say a similar thing about about me,
Speaker 13: you know, pushing the progression and getting more eyes on
Speaker 13: street skateboarding. Man, skateboarding is a special thing, especially when
Speaker 13: it comes to the street skateboarding, because it really, it
Speaker 13: really is what it's called. It comes from the streets.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 13: People first started skateboarding on the sidewalk cruising around here
Speaker 13: in southern California, and then people started flipping the board,
Speaker 13: and then they started skating little curves, and then they're
Speaker 13: jumping down handrails, and then there's contest, and now it's
Speaker 13: in the Olympics. So I think the I think that's
Speaker 13: the most special part about skateboarding is it's it really
Speaker 13: is so different from any other sport out there, to
Speaker 13: the point where it is it still feels weird for
Speaker 13: me to call it a sport. I see it more
Speaker 13: as away of life. We away of life and you know,
Speaker 13: a lifestyle fativity.
Speaker 1: That's the gold medal winning four hundred meters. He just
Speaker 1: ran the second fastest time in Olympic history. He won
Speaker 1: the goal put us back on top of the podium
Speaker 1: for the first time in the four hundred meters since
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: That is Quincy Hall, Chris Bailey.
Speaker 1: It was reported that you're dealing with a little hamstring issue,
Speaker 1: a leg issue, and you weren't able to run. So
Speaker 1: they laid off with Chris Bailey who handed the vernon Norwood,
Speaker 1: Bryce Demon and Rod Benjamin. And if burning Norwood, he's
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable because he's ran extremely well at the
Speaker 1: mixed doubles, and yesterday he ran us back into qualification
Speaker 1: running forty three to five.
Speaker 3: Today he split another one.
Speaker 1: But it came down to that ancor leg and you
Speaker 1: know you got to be a boy dog to stand
Speaker 1: tall on that ancor quincy. You got less Low tobac
Speaker 1: Lesla Tobogo run forty four, and you got Rod Benjamin,
Speaker 1: the reigning Olympic champ at four hundred at the hurdles
Speaker 1: when they got the baton. Tell me what would have
Speaker 1: been your strategy and what did you like about how
Speaker 1: Rod played it?
Speaker 19: Rob played this move man.
Speaker 20: Rod knows that Toboga is a quicker running, so Tobogo
Speaker 20: can't really like trail him as much. But if I,
Speaker 20: if I was Roby, would have took him out a
Speaker 20: little bit faster and made him chase a little harder.
Speaker 20: But Rod played the smart man right had a long
Speaker 20: week Rose champion, So Rob played the smart and if
Speaker 20: if Tobogo would have tried. I feel like Roy would
Speaker 20: have ran a little faster, but yeah, Rod played it
Speaker 20: real smart, Rose a good dude.
Speaker 1: I thought Roy didn't stepped on the gas because he
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he has something left at the end.
Speaker 1: Because Tobogo ran the third last fastest split that's ever
Speaker 1: been run. He ran forty three three. Ry ran forty
Speaker 1: one forty three one three, which is the fifth fastest.
Speaker 3: Only two men.
Speaker 1: Have ever run sub split forty three obviously, that's Michael
Speaker 1: Johnson Jeremy Warner. Tobogo has the third. In the ninety
Speaker 1: two Olympic Quincy Watts ran a forty one one of
Speaker 1: forty three. I keep saying forty one, ran forty three
Speaker 1: one and then ride today. So what we saw today,
Speaker 1: it doesn't normally come down like this. Well boy, that
Speaker 1: was that's what we want to see because normally we
Speaker 1: just run away with the thank you.
Speaker 20: Yeah we already were just run away with But I
Speaker 20: kind of seen it from the uh from the pre
Speaker 20: Lims and then from the from the go to good
Speaker 20: that Boswana got a good team.
Speaker 19: You know what I mean, it's just now you has
Speaker 19: just got some dogs.
Speaker 20: Boswana got a strong team and they got like five
Speaker 20: six guys at the run. Forty four men and forty
Speaker 20: four mini translates to forty three in the split. So
Speaker 20: now we knew Boswana was gonna be strong and stuff
Speaker 20: like that. But without me being on the relay, I
Speaker 20: knew we could win it just because we got some
Speaker 20: dogs too. I mean, I know Quincy Wilson, he split
Speaker 20: forty seven, but it's his first time being out here.
Speaker 4: On the global stage.
Speaker 20: And uh, I say, he's been dealing with some hamstring
Speaker 20: injury too, But it's it's just like I said, it's
Speaker 20: learning experience. But any anything we put out there, I
Speaker 20: had my money on our team.
Speaker 1: You do know, if y'all, if you run on that relay, y'all,
Speaker 1: that royal record might be two fifty three.
Speaker 3: You know that, right? You ain't right.
Speaker 20: I've been seeing a lot of comments about it, but
Speaker 20: I don't like to think of it what it could
Speaker 20: have should because I'm not that type of guy.
Speaker 19: I'm a I'm a what happened? You know what I mean?
Speaker 19: So I don't like to put myself. It's not about
Speaker 19: me right now.
Speaker 20: It's about them four guys that step up line and
Speaker 20: ran that race and wanted so it's not about me.
Speaker 19: I run, I won a four hundred. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 20: But I didn't step out the day because I didn't
Speaker 20: feel I didn't feel comfortable with my hamstring.
Speaker 19: I didn't want to.
Speaker 20: I didn't want to be tight or like happen to
Speaker 20: stop running in preventing the USA from being the gold medal.
Speaker 20: So that was just a business move and just being
Speaker 20: being a bigger person, being a good teammate.
Speaker 9: I'm curious, how did you we saw the four hundred, Yeah,
Speaker 9: we saw come off that last curve.
Speaker 3: Who you are? Forget that part.
Speaker 9: I need to know how did you mainly prepare for
Speaker 9: the pressure of competing on the world biggest stage. I
Speaker 9: just want to know that first. Then we'll get to
Speaker 9: the to the race and the end results.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 20: Uh, like I said, man, I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 20: don't really like talking about the track. I don't really
Speaker 20: like talking like that. But I consider myself like being
Speaker 20: one of the mentally strongest pressons out there, and I
Speaker 20: don't know, I don't think there's no.
Speaker 19: Pressure on me.
Speaker 20: Like every time I go out there, it's like me
Speaker 20: racing in the small meat of somebody else. I don't
Speaker 20: really I don't feel no pressure like that. I don't
Speaker 20: know about the mother. I don't feel no pressure. All
Speaker 20: I feel is that I practiced by myself. So when
Speaker 20: I'm out there and i'm out there grinding, I'm out
Speaker 20: there doing my my my my meters, and I'm out
Speaker 20: there doing my heels and all of that stuff. And
Speaker 20: I just feel like if I'm out there by myself,
Speaker 20: because my coach is always Califorida cars own, and I'm
Speaker 20: out there by myself. So when I'm out there just
Speaker 20: putting me in my work and do my ground, I'm
Speaker 20: out there telling myself to like, come on, cute, let's go.
Speaker 20: You know, you gotta get up, let's go. So if
Speaker 20: I don't want it myself, then nobody's gonna want it
Speaker 20: for me. So it's not really a mental standpoint.
Speaker 4: It's just me.
Speaker 19: I got bills to pay, you know what I mean,
Speaker 19: I got daughter.
Speaker 4: I'm just keeping it real with you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.
Speaker 20: I look at it like as the bills every day
Speaker 20: on the first. So I pick myself up, I tell
Speaker 20: myself to do it. I encourage myself. You can't encourage yourself.
Speaker 20: Nobody else cancurage it for you. So it's not really
Speaker 20: a mental standpoint on how I can get myself ready.
Speaker 20: It's just that do all mentality, you know what I mean.
Speaker 20: You gotta you gotta want it yourself.
Speaker 19: Man.
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