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He is a He's Mike Commodore, played 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: in the NHL for years one a Stanley Cup and 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: you just get a microphone in front of him and 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: he will let it fly. So he's he's a beauty. 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: He really is. I'm not the biggest hockey guy, and 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I could listen to this guy talk all day long 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: and we'll just kind of talk some big picture stuff 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: and he's got some stories from playing in Russia, his 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: feud with Stanley Cup champion coach Mike Babcock hates him 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: and he will not shy away from telling you that. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Commodore Comy as everyone in the 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: NHL calls him, for a little while. And uh yeah, 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: I had a fun time recording this a week ago 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: because I love this guy. But other than that, Yeah, 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: you guys know the Drill breen Out podcast. 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Okay, Please to have on a guy that 92 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I listened to on Colt Nose and Drew Slees' podcast 93 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: years ago, and I swear I pissed my pants laughing 94 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: in the car, and ever since I followed him and 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: watch everything he does because Mike Commodore, who's a Stanley 96 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: Cup champion by the way, No big deal, Scottsdale resident Commy, 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: what's going on? Bro? 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: What's going on? Thanks for having me? I mentioned a 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: little bit earlier, but it's my first football podcast. I've 100 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: ever done one of these before, so losing my football 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: virginity here. But no good to see a good chat. Yeah, 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: just hanging out in the heat here trying not to 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: me and my red hair and fair skin try not 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: to melt. 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Who do you think is tough for football guys you've 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: met a lot, probably playing golf with him, or you guys, 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: the hockey guys you plan, you plan ice, so. 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think there's more as far as tougher. 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: I mean, there's more, like you know, super like facial 110 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: injuries and stuff that hockey players play with, and you know, 111 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: the playoffs just then those guys are beat up. But 112 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: I think like football that I think there's way more 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: injuries in football. Like I think, like you know, with 114 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: those guys running into each other every play, and it's 115 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: like a little mini car crash, and like, I never 116 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 4: played it down in football in my life, so I 117 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: can't comment it from a personal We didn't really play 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: football where I'm from. It was one of those things. 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: There was a high school team and dude, like they 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: were begging for anybody to play. Nobody played football there. 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Hence why not too many Canadians from Edmonton, Alberta end up. 122 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: There's one right now in the league, but that was 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: he's a sprinter. But I would put it it's pretty close. 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: I could call it a tie. 125 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be honest, I watched more hockey this playoffs. 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Part of that was gambling, and it was just the playoffs. 127 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: It was remarkable. I mean, that was a high level playoffs. 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Just the drama, the intensity. 129 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: It probably always is because people always say hockey playoffs 130 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: are the best. I consumed a lot and it was 131 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: like this badass. But you guys, there are big hits, 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: but they don't happen as much as you would think, 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: like in the video games, as they do in a 134 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: real game, where like you said, in football, someone is 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: legitimately getting tackled every single play, and some of them 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: are much more vicious than others. But it's every play. 137 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like football, like you said, I mean, the only 138 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: way that's how plays end, every one of them is 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: somebody gets tackled right of something and I'm sure some 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: are worse than others. Wearing hockey now, it does you know, 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: the physical contact year round used to be more, you know, 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: fifteen twenty years ago. There's a little the game has changed, 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: especially in the last ten years, where it's more speed 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: and skill and that is kind of more now. Don't 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: get me wrong, there's still body checks, but it's definitely 146 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: a little bit less. I also think a big difference that, 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: like I said, I never played it down in football, 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: but you know, when you get tackled in football, you're 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: wearing cleats and you're on the turf or in the 150 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: grass where you're kind of planted. You know, unless you're 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: like you get hitting the wrong angle and your foot's 152 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: anchored to the ground, you're in trouble. Wearing hockey, like 153 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: you can see a guy get smoked, and it's usually 154 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: not too too bad. And I think part of the 155 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: reason is, you know, is that you're on ice, so 156 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: your feet. You know, every once in a while your 157 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: feet will be planted, you get your you know you're 158 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: foot in a bad spot up against the boards or 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: you know, you can't put yourself in dangerous spots. But 160 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: a lot of times those big hits actually aren't too 161 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: too bad. And I think a lot of it just 162 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: because you just straight up get run over, so your 163 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: feet go off the ice and you land on your back, 164 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: and that's not really a big deal. 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. One major difference is the fighting. And I was 166 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: just i YouTube today some of your fights. I kind 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: of tried to google it. I couldn't do you know 168 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: career how many fights? I do not know how many. 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: No high number though high, Right, It depends. 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: On who you're comparing it to. Like a lot of 171 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: a lot of people down here in Arizona at the 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: golf club, like they think, I'm. 173 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: Like, you know then Mike Tyson, Right, They're like. 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: Calling me an enforcer, and I'm like, I wasn't really 175 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: that like if I I think being an enforcer in 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: the NHL, know those you know, they're not many of 177 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: them anymore, if any, but back then when I turned pro, 178 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: there were, and you know what, for me in the 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: game of hockey, I think being an enforcer, a guy 180 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: that's there to fight is the hardest job in the 181 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: world in hockey because, I mean, you're not playing that 182 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: much usually, and when you get on the ice, you're 183 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: basically expected to fight something. Well, you're expected to basically 184 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: fight the other team's toughest guy. I found that incredibly 185 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: hard to do if you're not playing. So if you're 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: to look up my fights whatever it is, I'd say 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: I was about fifty to fifty half of them I 188 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: got my ass kicked in and the other half I did, Okay, 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: every single one of them that I got my ass 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: kicked in, whereas when I was fighting, where I like 191 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: kind of felt like I had to and the ones 192 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: that I won were the ones that I was fighting 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: because I was I was pissed off. I was playing 194 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: and I was pissed off. So that was actually in 195 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 4: the beginning of my career. That was actually a big 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: motivator for me when I was in the minors to 197 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: get better because I'm like, hey, I'm like, I don't 198 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: want to be the guy, you know, just because of 199 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: my size. I was six four two thirty, which is 200 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: pretty big for hockey. Like, because of my size fighting 201 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: and I was a defensive defenseman, fighting was expected. But 202 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, look, I got no problems fighting, but 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: you know, in my opinion, I thought I could play 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: it as well. So that was a big thing, like 205 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: a really big thing for me. And like, Okay, I 206 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: got to become a better skater, I got to make 207 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: better plays with the puck. I just want to become 208 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: a better player overall. So like I'm viewed as somebody 209 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: that needs to play as well, and thankfully I got there. 210 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: One of the fights on YouTube was Tim Jackman. I 211 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: think it was a little later in your Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: you have to smile on your face. And one of 213 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: the things I want to ask you because, like you said, 214 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: like I want to prove I'm a player, I can help, 215 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: but like your role, like when it does come down, 216 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: like it's not like Sydney Crosby and McDavid are scrapping. 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: So it is what you have to do. But there 218 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: has to be days where like I don't want to fight, 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: or I like this guy we drink beers and play 220 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: gold together. How oft does that shit happen? 221 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: Oh, that would happen like all the time. Like the 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 4: Jackman fight. I didn't know him, and that one kind 223 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: of happened because I hit him before, and you know 224 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: that one, I was kind of you know what he 225 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: actually you were smiling, smiling, yeah, because look, I got 226 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: nothing against Tim Jackman. But I'm like, I was pretty 227 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: you know, I didn't think he could he could hurt 228 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: me unless I just run straight up let him smoke me. 229 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: But he got one when I watched it after, because 230 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: I'm bleeding at the end of the fight. And at 231 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: the end of the fight, I'm like, man, I'm bleeding 232 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: over my right eye or left eye. 233 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Think it was. 234 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even think he hit me, but 235 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 4: at the beginning, he like he kind of like grazed 236 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: me with something and I think a piece of his 237 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: elbow pad or something like cut me open. Anyways, doesn't matter, 238 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: but no, that would happen, like especially with those like enforcers, 239 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Like those guys, by and large, they all know each other, 240 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: like you know, and you know, it's a small world 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: these days, social media, and you know, you go to 242 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: camps and you work out in the summer, so like, 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: you know, there's a group of guys that train out 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: in Ontario, and like you're probably gonna know it like 245 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: a decent amount. And if you stick around long enough, 246 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: you know, in a league or stick around pro hockey 247 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: long enough, chances are you're gonna end up out at 248 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: a bar with the other team that you just played, 249 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 4: and you're like ninety nine percent of the time, those 250 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: guys that are tough, the guys that would fight, are 251 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: the best guys on the team. Like they're they're the 252 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: best to be around with. They take care like they 253 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: they're good people, like they don't if a random fan 254 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,359 Speaker 4: were to walk up, you know, up to a superstar, 255 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: you know, you never know what you're gonna get. Most 256 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: of the time it's okay, but you're not sure you 257 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: walk up to one of those those enforcers are tight, 258 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: tougher guys, man, you're gonna end up sitting down and 259 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: having beers with them all night. So yeah, like I said, 260 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: I give those guys credit. 261 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: Who did it? 262 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: Like you know, your Sean Thornton's of the world and 263 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: Brian mcgratten's and George Parrows and the list goes on 264 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: and on. I give those guys full mark because that 265 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: is not an easy job. 266 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Well, to me, you brought up a good point, like 267 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: obviously half to fight or half the times you're pissed off, 268 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Like it's like anything if you're gonna get into an 269 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: argument with your wife or your business partner, if you're 270 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: already mad, and it's actually easier. I feel like I'm 271 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: not in the mood to do this, right, But so 272 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: if you're not in the mood, but you're like, I 273 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: don't have a choice. Were those usually the ones you 274 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: lost or like, oh I just got to snap into this. 275 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: Oh, those are the ones I lost? And when I 276 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: mean lost, like lost one hundred percent of the time 277 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: you kicked Oh, yeah, Like my last fight in the 278 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: NHL was long story short, I got traded out of Detroit, 279 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: thank god, and I knew the end was coming, and 280 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: I got traded to Tampa Bay. And the kind of 281 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: deal was Tampa Bay was out of the play one 282 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: of the worst teams in the league that year the 283 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: first half of the year, but the second half they 284 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: were like the third best. Anyways, we ended up missing 285 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: the playoffs by a couple points just because they were 286 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: so bad at being of the year. But when they 287 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: traded for him, they said, hey, look, Mike, like, you know, 288 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: we traded for a couple of young defensemen. But as 289 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: long as we're like, you know, realist. Steve Eiserman, who 290 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: I'm friends with, was like, as long as we're like 291 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: realistically in this, you're playing. But once we're out, like 292 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: I got to play these young guys, I go, Steve, 293 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: I've been lied to for the last two years. I go, 294 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: I appreciate your honesty. Thank you. That sounds like a 295 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: great program. So I get to Tampa. We end up 296 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: winning the first I think we won our first five 297 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: in a row. But like the third game was against 298 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: Boston in Tampa and Boston a good team and we're 299 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: up at the air. There's like a couple minutes ago 300 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: in the first period, we're up five nothing like just 301 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: games over. Yeah, like we're on fire. Game's over and 302 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: you know, face off in our end and who comes 303 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: out Sean Thornton. I had fought Sean Thornton in the miners. 304 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: Sean Thornton had an incredit for anybody who doesn't know 305 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: who he is. Had an incredible career, played like seven 306 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: hundred games in the miners before he even got a 307 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: chance in the NHL, which is insane. Most people don't 308 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: last that long in the miners, and he was there 309 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: like he was fighting, fighting, and then gets a chance, 310 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: wins a Cup his first year in Anaheim, ends up 311 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: staying the NHL, wins another Cup in Boston. He just 312 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: won another Cup two days ago with Florida. He's in 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: their front office. So had an incredible career, one of 314 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: the most impressive I've ever seen. He comes out and 315 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: he lines up beside me. He's like, hey, commy, I'm like, yes, Sean. 316 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: He goes, come on, man, I need one, I goes Sean. 317 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: It's nothing. He's like, come on, man, I need one. 318 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: I go Sean you really don't. He's like, come on, 319 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: I go fine, bucket. So I drop the gloves, bite 320 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: him and like it didn't It looks like I got 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: like murdered, Like it doesn't look good. But I actually 322 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: managed to slip all the punches, so he didn't. Like, well, 323 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: before we drop him, he says, this is I miss 324 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: one of the funnier parts of the story. He's like, hey, 325 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: we'll just make it look good. I'm like, all right, 326 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: let's go. Yeah, And I'm like, you know, I could 327 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: throw my rights pretty good on skates. 328 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: I was. 329 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: I didn't have great balance, so what lefts were harder. 330 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: I could throw both on my feet, but it was 331 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: a little harder for me on skates. This guy could 332 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: throw both hands, which is a big deal in hockey 333 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: fight and if you could switch up and throw both hands, 334 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: like the really good fighters could throw both hands equally 335 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: as well. He could, So he's talking about thinking making 336 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: it look good. So I think he's just whatever. We 337 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: kind of throw some punches, but he starts switching up. 338 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: He's throwing both hands at me. My jersey rips like horizontally. 339 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: Now it's over my head. I'm like in my head, 340 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm like what the fuck. I'm like, look good. I'm 341 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: like you look good. I'm like I look like a 342 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: fucking asshole here. So go in, you know, because there 343 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: was like a minute left in the period, So go in. 344 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: I'm sitting cause that five minute each for fighting, so 345 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: I'm not going to play anymore in the in the 346 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: first period, and the guys whom I just met come in, 347 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: They're like looking at me, like like they think I 348 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: just got killed. And I'm like, hey, fellas, it's okay. 349 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm fine. He missed me with all of them, believe 350 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: it or not. And so it went on. But yeah, 351 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: so that was when I wasn't mad. I was in trouble. 352 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: You know, in football, the only fights that happened are 353 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: really in training camp because in the so you get tossed, 354 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: and really the fights in football everyone's wearing helmets. It 355 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of stupid. It is a legitimate 356 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: part of your sport, like besides just being a tough 357 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: guy naturally probably fighting as a kid or in hockey. 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Once you got to the to the show, did you 359 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: do a little side training to Like I got to 360 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: make sure my right hooks, like Chuck late Ill. 361 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: I did I did some you know what, And it's 362 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: one thing looking back, if I could do a couple 363 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: things differently when I turned pro or leading up at 364 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: any point I did do. When I was in high school, 365 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 4: I boxed so like I didn't wasn't like on an 366 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: amateur circuit or anything. And I wasn't doing it, like 367 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: I wasn't having boxing matches, but I was going into 368 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: Edmonton and training with a boxing coach. His name was Joey. 369 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: And when I was in North Dakota in the summers, 370 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 4: I used to there was a trainer there that used 371 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: to train Virgil Hill. So we would box in the 372 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: basement of a gas station in Grant Forks, North Dakota. 373 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: So I had like I had the basics down and 374 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: like how to throw a punch and I could make 375 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: my way around the ring a little bit, which definitely 376 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: helped me. Like that was very important. I fought a 377 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: lot in junior when I was like junior hockey, it's 378 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: you know, you can play from sixteen to twenty. So 379 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: I played one year when I was sixteen seventeen years 380 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: old in Alberta, and I had a lot of fights 381 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: that year. And you know, my dad knew he's like, hey, 382 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: we need to you know, you're going to be a target. 383 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: And when I get pissed off, I had a short fuse. 384 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: He's like, we need to you need to learn how 385 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: to box. So that's what I did. But looking back, 386 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: you know, I think it would have really helped me, 387 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: especially confidence wise with it. I wish I would, and 388 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: I still keep telling myself, I got to do it, 389 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 4: but it's I sweat so much, I'm kind of like 390 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: nervous to do it. I should have got into like 391 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: a jiu jitsu where you're grabbing and you're holding and like, 392 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: because just as important as throwing a punch is how 393 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 4: you grab and where you grab with that jersey is 394 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: very very important. And if you had a little bit 395 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: of skill on like how to grab and kind of 396 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: manipulate guys and manipulate their arms and hands and body 397 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: and could use your body weight a little bit on 398 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: your on the ice, that would be a massive advantage. 399 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: So I don't have a kid. If I didn't he 400 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: played hockey, he'd be boxing and be doing jiu jitsu. 401 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: What's like those offensive and defensive linemen. Yeah, it work 402 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: a lot with that because a lot of it's hitting 403 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: hands off, ye, keeping them separated. You're tall, so your 404 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: length is safe to say, work to your advantage of 405 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: keeping them at kind of at a length where you 406 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: could control the fight. Yeah, like worst case scenario, like, yeah, 407 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: that was my great How many guys in the NHL 408 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: were taller than you couldn't It couldn't have been a 409 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: super long list, No, it wouldn't be a long list. 410 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: Like I would say, I was usually you know, the 411 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 4: tallest or at least one of the couple tallest guys 412 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: on my team, and there wouldn't have been too many. 413 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there was a handful of guys that were 414 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: my height or taller, but it wouldn't have been a 415 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 4: whole lot. So like, yeah, like my reach was like 416 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: that was my weapon if I could, if I could 417 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: hold people out where I was comfortable and then most 418 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: of the time, you know, they wouldn't be able to 419 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: get to me just straight up throwing punches, and if 420 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: I ever got in trouble, that was kind of what 421 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: I mean, just I could push off and kind of 422 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 4: stay away. But like I said, like, if you know, 423 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: if I would have been better, that would have been 424 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 4: a huge thing to It would have been a massive 425 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: skill and that's a good comparison with Lineman because you know, 426 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: obviously there'd be more. You know, it's not the hands 427 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: off thing in hockey. It'd be where you're grabbing, how 428 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: you're grabbing, how you're using your body to move them around. 429 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 4: That would have been very, very useful. 430 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Is it like an unwritten rule? Because forever, I mean 431 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: just casually hockey, Sydney was the best player and it 432 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: was like no one fights him. And now with McDavid, 433 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: it's there was a big thing in the in the 434 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year, right the dude for Boston 435 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Pasta got attacked by the dude and it was like, 436 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: you're not really supposed to do that, Is that true? 437 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Like and if he's on your team, if you would 438 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: add to b line, can are you all out a 439 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: double team or is it all just one on one? 440 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: It's one on one. 441 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: If it gets into a double team, somebody's definitely getting 442 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: kicked out of the game and probably suspended these days. 443 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: Back in the day, it was like before I say, 444 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: was it free for all? But yeah, there's like it's 445 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: like back in when Sidney Crosby started. You know, yeah, 446 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 4: you don't You're not gonna Like let's say if we 447 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: were playing the Pittsburgh Penguins when Sidney Crosby when he 448 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: turned pro was like I was my first year in 449 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 4: Carolina was like by sixty year pro. Like, let's say 450 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: I would have went after Sidney Crosby and like bottom 451 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: dropped my gloves and went after him. I would know 452 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: that from that point forward for the rest of the season. 453 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: And they had two or three guys on Pittsburgh that 454 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 4: were heavyweight tough, I would know that for the rest 455 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: of the season, every time I step out on the ice, 456 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: one of those guys is coming after me. That's kind 457 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: of the way that like players police the game. Now 458 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 4: it's a little bit different, but it's still there. Like 459 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: if somebody now the playoffs a little bit different. There 460 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 4: isn't really fighting. But like let's say next year, if 461 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: somewhere to go after Connor McDavid. You know a guy 462 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: that's tough that he didn't play the last couple of 463 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: games because I think he was hurt. But there's a 464 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: guy on Edmonton. His name's Evander Kaine. He boxes, he 465 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: can fight. You know, if you were to go after 466 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: Connor McDavid, he's coming after. There's gonna be more than 467 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: just him. Everybody's gonna come after you at first, but 468 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: whoever their toughest guy is definitely I mean, you better 469 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: be able to hand you handle yourself because there'll be 470 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: people coming. 471 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: So basically, when I build the team as a GM 472 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: and I got Seeing or I got Connor Rue, whoever 473 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: just an elite goal scorer, I'm building people like you 474 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: on my squad of like to balance the thing off. 475 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: I think even in today's game, I think if I 476 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: were building a team, and I think it is very 477 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 4: important to have at least one or two guys like 478 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: it's different now, I understand that, but they're still fighting. 479 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 4: Like fighting I think actually went up a little bit 480 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, but it's not the same 481 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: as it used to be. But I do think it 482 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: is very very important to have at least a couple 483 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: Now in today's game, they have to be able to skate, like, 484 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: they have to be able to contribute, like you got 485 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: to be able to get around the ice. But I 486 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: think it's very very important to have a couple guys 487 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: minimum on your team that aren't that aren't scared, and 488 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: that know how to handle themselves. I would definitely do 489 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 4: that for sure, because otherwise I remember going up and 490 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: playing against other teams where it's like when they have 491 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 4: nobody and it's like, well, you know, I'm not going 492 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: to try and fight Sidney Crosby because he's not I mean, 493 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: that's not really what I want to do. But I mean, 494 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm going to take free runs at this guy. I'm 495 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: going to play him harder defensively, and if I get 496 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: a chance to pop him, like with a body checker, 497 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: and maybe it's a little bit dirty, maybe it's a 498 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: little bit late, I'm gonna do it where you know, 499 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: if I know, you know I'm gonna I might think 500 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 4: twice be like okay, well you know I'm gonna hit him, 501 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: but I'm I know I'm gonna have to answer for it. 502 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: If it's just free reign, then I have no concerns. 503 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, one thing that's unique about your sport. I 504 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: was thinking about this might be you've never been asked 505 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: this question. I don't know, but I was watching the 506 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: San Jose Sharks just introduced I'm from Sacramento area, so 507 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: they introduced a young guy. I think he's the youngest 508 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: coach ever. But like a lot of coaches. He played 509 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: minor league low but he can skate right, the dude 510 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: for Edmonton now block he played at a low level. Yeah, 511 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: what happens? You know in football? Whether I'm fat or 512 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: skinny as a coach, it doesn't matter. I'm just standing there. 513 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: What happens if a coach can't skate? 514 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: How do they? 515 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Does that ever happen practice? Yeah? It does. 516 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: I had one and he's actually just got inducted into 517 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: a Hockey Hall of Fame last last fall. 518 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: It very rarely happens. But Ken hit Scott, so he 519 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: can Does he wear shoes on the ice? No? 520 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: So he could put skates on and he could go 521 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: on the ice and like stand there and like could 522 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: he like slowly go you know, a few feet or so. Yes, 523 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: I've never played for a guy that like literally had 524 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: never been on the ice. I don't think that exists. 525 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: Like every coach has been on the at least can 526 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: put skates on and can like go out on the 527 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: ice without falling. That's kind of a you have to 528 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: be able to do that. But Ken Hitchcock, like he 529 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: he couldn't skate. I mean, and if you see a 530 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: picture of Ken, Ken's a big dude, he's always been big, 531 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: battled his weight and stuff like that. Now Ken's in 532 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. I mean he got, he was 533 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 4: he was an excellent coach. But yeah, like there's guys 534 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: that can't. Really he'd be kind of a rare one. 535 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: But everybody, everybody has been on the ice at some point. 536 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 4: Maybe they only played as a kid, But there wouldn't 537 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: be anybody that's coaching that like literally had never played 538 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: at all. 539 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Yes, some of these younger coaches probably skate fall and 540 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: just oh yractice, you wouldn't even notice. But a guy 541 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: like that, by the time you're playing for him, he's 542 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: winning and successful. Are you still making fun of him? Like, 543 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: is he still getting ripped it because he can't so 544 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: he basically just waddles to a spot and probably doesn't 545 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: move that much h in practice? Right, No, he. 546 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: Wouldn't move at all. And I love Ken full disclosure, 547 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 4: I love Ken. He won a Stanley Cup with Dallas. 548 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 4: He's got Like I said, he's in the Hockey Hall 549 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 4: of Fame. I really like Ken. Ken would get all 550 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: over you. But Ken was one of those guys where 551 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 4: like you could give it back to him, you could 552 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: call Ken a fat fuck and he wouldn't. Hey, he 553 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: might get pissed off, but he never took anything personally, 554 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: and he would give it to you on the bench. 555 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: That was kind of one of the reasons why as 556 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 4: his career went on he would just wear thin with 557 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: guys because he was great, Like he knew hockey up 558 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: and down, and he could he would put a great 559 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: practice together. I think Ken Hitchcock I've said this a 560 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: couple of times when I've been asked about him, like 561 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: at events, if Ken Hitchcock didn't have to go behind 562 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: the bench during the games, if you could just leave 563 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: him in the dressing room, I think Ken Hitchcock would 564 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: still be coaching because he was excellent with practices, excellent 565 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: with game planning, excellent with managing people. People liked him. 566 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, the moment you put him behind 567 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: the bench during a fucking game, whether you were down 568 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: five nothing or winning eight nothing, whatever, he just couldn't 569 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: help himself. Where you know some one guy every game, 570 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 4: it would be somebody, at least one person would make 571 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: a little play and turn the puck over and play. 572 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: It isn't like even if it's not a score, nothing 573 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: comes of it. Whatsoever, and he just keep bitching it, bitching, 574 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: bitching at the guy, where like, you know, I didn't mind. 575 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: It didn't happen to me very often. I probably played 576 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty games for Ken. You know, he 577 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: came after me once and we were when I stood 578 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: up for a couple of guys because he was wearing 579 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: fin on some of the younger guys and some young 580 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: stars and so like I was one of the leaders 581 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: on the Blue Jackets. So a couple of times I 582 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: would turn around and be like, hey, Ken, and he 583 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: looked at me. I go, would you shut the fuck up? 584 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: I go, we're winning this game? Five nothing, there's six 585 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: minutes left in the game. The game is over. Shut 586 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: the fuck up. And he kind of looked at me 587 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: and then kind of looked down, and then he would 588 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: shot up for the rest of the game. But he 589 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: just can't help himself. But a great dude, there's no 590 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 4: doubt about it. 591 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: You told a story recently. It might have been old, 592 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: but it was on a I watched on YouTube. I 593 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: forget the coach's name, but you guys were as a team, 594 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: like in a bar hanging out and he walked in 595 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: and you knew right away, like this is gonna be bad. 596 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: And listen, in the NFL, when guys get their shot, 597 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: some guys are as comfortable and natural and it just 598 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: can be themselves and other guys try to be something 599 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: they're not. We've seen it with the Belichick guys for 600 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: it and that always fails. Yeah, and coaching hockey, most 601 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: of these guys aren't exactly probably Wayne Gretzky and Sydney 602 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Crosby with a playing resume, so they're you know, they're 603 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: trying to prove and it's a tough guy sport. Can 604 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: you sniff out? And obviously you have some famous stories 605 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: with Babcock, but just whether it's a it's a personal 606 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: like a guy could know hockey but just be terrible 607 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: with individuals. Does that happen a lot assistant coaches do. Yeah. 608 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 4: Assistant coaches are usually pretty good because they know, like 609 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 4: your job, one of part of your job description as 610 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: an assistant coach is to be a good guy. Like 611 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 4: your job is not to come down on very rarely 612 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 4: are you supposed to come down on players, Like You'll 613 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 4: have an assistant coach that runs the d you know, 614 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: maybe he runs the penalty kill or however, and like 615 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: your job is to encourage and to be a good dude. 616 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: So I don't remember any instances of like an assistant 617 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: coach like pissing people off. Really, you know that that 618 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 4: was kind of the head coach a little bit. But yeah, 619 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: like that exactly who was the coach? 620 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Who's the coach I'm referring to when he. 621 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: Fucking name is Scott Arneil is his fucking name and 622 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: he just got the head job for the Winnipeg Jets, 623 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: Scott Arneil is a fucking scumbag, a bab Babbs is 624 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: a bad person. I can't call Babs a loser. You know, 625 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: Babs has won some things. I can't go down that road. 626 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: Scott O'Neil is a loser. This guy had a he 627 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: had a good, good hockey career. He played like a 628 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: bunch of games in the minors, he played forever, he 629 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: had to, played a bunch of games in the Marria 630 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: and Hockey League, played like six seven hundred games in 631 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: the NHL. Like, he had an excellent career. But in 632 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 4: it took me a while to figure this out. But 633 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: in his mind, you know, he didn't make the money 634 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 4: that he thought he should so when he got in, 635 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: when he got his chance, Columbus was his first opportunity 636 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: to be an NHL coach. He came in with the 637 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: mindset and we it's so just it's the most disappointing 638 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: year of my career for sure, because we had some 639 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: good pieces in Columbus and I really think we could 640 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: have been decent, and this motherfucker came in and his 641 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: only goal was to try and get even. So who's 642 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: the first fucking target in this guy? Me? The guy 643 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: that I'm the highest paid defenseman in the organization, making 644 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: almost four million bucks a year and I'm single with 645 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: no kids. I was like thirty years old. So he 646 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: took took one look at me, and I was fucked. 647 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: And when I first noticed, and I was actually excited 648 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: when he got hired because I'm like, okay, I'm like 649 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: one of his assistant coaches was the University of North Dakota. Guy, 650 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: that's where I went to school, So I'm like, you know, 651 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: when he got fired, I texted the assistant coach, I go, 652 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: can't wait to get this going, like looking forward to it, 653 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: get through training camp and yell, I'll never forget. We 654 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: were all sitting there in the bar, like we weren't 655 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: even maybe having a beer. Training camp was over and 656 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: we were about to go to Sweden because we were 657 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: opening up the game there, playing a couple of games 658 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: against the Sharks, and I remember him walking in and 659 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: the moment. He was like one o'clock in the afternoon 660 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 4: on a fucking Tuesday or something. There was nobody in there, 661 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: and he walks in, and I remember he took a look, 662 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: and there might have been a girl bartending or whatever, 663 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 4: and he puffed his chest out and his arms went out, 664 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 4: and I went on and I remember thinking in my head. 665 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: I didn't say anything at the time, but I remember 666 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: thinking in my head, I'm like, oh fuck, And sure 667 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: as shit this guy he was fucking arrogant and anyways 668 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: he's managed to know. That's one thing that you know. 669 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the same in I'm assuming 670 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: it is the same. 671 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: It is it is. 672 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: It's an all boys club. Once you're fucking in, they 673 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: just cycle you around. So Scott Arneil gets it chance 674 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 4: as a head coach in Columbus completely fucks it up. 675 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: He's fired in a year and a half. The general 676 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: managers can like when I got kicked off the team 677 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: based I had a meeting with the general manager Scott Housen, 678 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: who now runs the Scott House. Is a nice guy, 679 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: and I had a meeting with Scott. He's like, hey, 680 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: Arneil doesn't want you here. I go, well, no shit. 681 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: He's like, what do you want to do. I'm like, well, 682 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 4: I'm not going home. I'm like, just send me down 683 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: to the miners. At least I can practice. Maybe I'll 684 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: play a couple games or whatever. Like, I know you're 685 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: gonna buy me out. He's like yeah, he goes, yes, 686 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: you know it's too bad how this worked out. I go, 687 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 4: it is fucking too bad, Scott. And I go, I'll 688 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: tell you what. 689 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: I go. 690 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: You want to know who looks bad in this this 691 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: situation here? He's like, well, I go, I look bad 692 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: number one. I go, I'm the highest paid defense in 693 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: this organization. I can't get on the ice. I go, 694 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: you want to know who else looks bad? 695 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: Scott? 696 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: And he's like, oo, I go, you fucking do because 697 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: you signed me to this contract. I go, you hired 698 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 4: the wrong fucking coach. And mark my words, this guy's 699 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: coming after you too. This guy's fucking power hungry and 700 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: he's trying to get even I go, you mark my 701 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: fucking words, and sure, shit housing was fucking gone in 702 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 4: the year two. 703 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that happens all the time in 704 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, And even with success. I mean these guys 705 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes turning on guys. Yeah, guys, they inherent 706 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: they don't like It's like any good coach, if a 707 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: guy can play and has had success, why wouldn't you 708 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: just figure it out? Isn't that their job? Big time? 709 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: Like Yeah, with the arnial thing, it was like, hey, 710 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 4: if I was playing like shit and if I was bad, 711 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: I would be the first one to say but I 712 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: could still play then, and like we had another like 713 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 4: we had. That was my third year in Columbus, my 714 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: first year. I had my best year as a professional. Personally, 715 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: it was by far my best year. I was number 716 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: one two d men playing against the other team's top 717 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: lines for the first time in Columbus Blue jacket history. 718 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: We made the playoffs. That was a big deal. The 719 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: next year we had some I had some growin pro 720 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: I tried switched up my workouts to try and because 721 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to feel better, I thought I was doing 722 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: the right thing. I wasn't spent a shitload of money 723 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: to do it. I had an off year, but I 724 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: tried to grind through it and growing problems. The whole 725 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: team had kind of an off year. Hitch gets fired, 726 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 4: everybody gets fired. They bring this guy in and like, 727 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: we had good pieces, and that's like my one if 728 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: like I could do one thing over, my one do 729 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: over would be like go back and do that third 730 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: year at Columbus over with like a guy that didn't 731 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 4: want to just come in and fucking blow everything up 732 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: and like legitimately, which like I don't understand either, because 733 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: it's like man like if we play well, like it 734 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: looks good on you too. Like he was fucking yelling 735 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: and screaming, like he's gone on record because I torched 736 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: him on Twitter. I don't want to get into the 737 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: whole babcock sit to another one of those fuck that 738 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: went on forever. I don't want to do that again. 739 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 4: But I did send one thing out and he went, oh, 740 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: you know, I had maybe a little bit too much 741 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: bark back then, like he's some fucking tough guy. I'm like, dude, 742 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: you had no fucking bark. You wouldn't meet with me. 743 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: I had to fucking force you to meet with me 744 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: by calling you a checking shit in front of everybody, 745 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you had no bark. The only thing 746 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: you ever said was you guys are trying to take 747 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: money away from my wife and kids, Like he would 748 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: fucking say that, And I'm like anyways, Like, I'm like, 749 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: how do you not clue in where if we can 750 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 4: all make this work together? Like you're going to keep coaching, 751 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: You're going to get a fucking raise, like it looks 752 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: good on you too, Like I I don't get it. 753 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 4: I've never coached, so, but I would like to think 754 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 4: if I ever did, I wouldn't turn into a fucking asshole. 755 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, when I first heard you on with those guys, 756 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: I hadn't known about the whole babcock situation. You've got 757 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: into it a million times. But then if this would 758 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: have happened in the NFL, what happened to him, it 759 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: would have been the biggest sports story in years. The 760 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: cell phone thing, Yeah, the cell phone thing? Yeah? Can you? 761 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people listening probably maybe saw 762 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: a headline but don't quite know the details because I 763 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: remember when Biz Scott's sale guy put it out there. 764 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh the organization pushed back right away. You everyone pushed, 765 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: but you you had probab I'm sure heard some things 766 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: sitting in the wings like oh, this bad boy is 767 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: about to he didn't even make it a training camp, correct, No, 768 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean I would help to play out the story 769 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. 770 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: So basically this, you know Babs who Mike Babcock, who 771 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: was a successful coach in Detroit, want a Stanley Cup 772 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: Team Canada won a couple gold medals Olympics. Like, look, 773 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: you know, we could make the argument that you and 774 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: I could go coach Team Canada and we're medaling for sure, 775 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 4: even if we never coached before. We just be like, hey, fellas, 776 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 4: just keep going out there on the ice, roll through them, 777 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: Team Canada. There's other teams that are good too, don't 778 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: get me wrong, but Canada's got a really good team. 779 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 780 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: Anyways, gets fired or sorry, goes from Detroit, gets the 781 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 4: biggest job in hockey, would be like getting the Dallas 782 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: Cowboys job in football. Head coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs. 783 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: He's there. 784 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 4: I kind of fire some stuff out. I take a 785 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: lot of heat for it. He's the highest paid coach. 786 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: It's in Toronto. They got the most fans. Everybody loves 787 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: the Leaves. Blah blah blah. Are you playing at the 788 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: time that you I was retired. I was freshly retired. 789 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 4: And uh, anyways, he ends up getting you know, some 790 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: things come up out the Leaves don't do well. He 791 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: gets fired. Some things get out about how he treats people. 792 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 4: This guy's like one of the worst human being. I 793 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: wasn't even around him much, and like, you know, I've 794 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 4: been begging, well, this stuff was going on for like 795 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: somebody come and help me out. Like I barely played 796 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: for the fucking guy, and I'm the I'm spearheading this 797 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 4: effort to get this guy just roasted. But anyways, it 798 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: all worked out, so I'm happy to do it. He 799 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: gets fired in Toronto. He's you know, still getting paid. Anyways, 800 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: his contract expires right away, and I fucking knew it too. 801 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 4: I'm like, somebody is going to fall in love with 802 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 4: this guy's resume and give him a chance. And the 803 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: day his contract expires at the end of June, the 804 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: Columbus Blue Jackets hire this guy. 805 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: So it goes. 806 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: So this is July first, Now he's hired. Training camp 807 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: starts like fall itt September tenth, something like that. So 808 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: there's the draft at the end of June. This guy 809 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: gets hired July first, whatever it is. And after the 810 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 4: draft they usually have like a little prospects camp where 811 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: they have all the guys they drafted and maybe some 812 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 4: young guys that they drafted the year before, and you 813 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 4: have a little like, you know, you practice together. There's 814 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: a little like you learn about nutrition, just fucking shit 815 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 4: like that. 816 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 5: It's like rookie Mini Caamp in the NFL. It's very basic, perfect, 817 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 5: very basic. Well, this guy, I find out in August. 818 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: I start hearing some things out of Columbus. Hey, Mike 819 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 5: Babcock's been going and I'm not gonna say who told me, 820 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 5: but from somebody that I'm like, okay, this guy's kind 821 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 5: of around and he's like, yeah, he's like going through 822 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 5: guy's cell phones. I'm like, what what do you mean 823 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: going through their cell phones? He said, yeah, he's having 824 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 5: guys in and he's telling them to unlock their cells. 825 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 5: And he either goes through like goes through their pictures, 826 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: tell us pull up your pictures. He either goes through 827 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 5: their photo album or he has them unlocked their phone. 828 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 5: Click airplay or whatever it is. So all their pictures 829 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 5: are up on the TV that's in his office. I'm like, 830 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 5: no shit, I go, you gotta be fucking kidding me. 831 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 5: This guy just got hired. They're like, yeah, man, did 832 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 5: you even. 833 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Believe it when you first heard it? Because that sounds 834 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: insane when you say it out. 835 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 4: Loud sounds and I didn't believe it at first, but 836 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 4: then I'm like it's babs, and I'm like this this 837 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: guy is like he thinks everybody comes to the rank 838 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 4: to watch him coach, Like, Hey, I'm the fucking head 839 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 4: coach of the Columbus Bluejacks. Oh you just got picked 840 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: thirdle or second overall. Hey, I'll tell you what I'm 841 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: in charge. I could totally see him pulling something like 842 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 4: that as like a power play. So anyways, I had 843 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: tweets loaded up at the beginning of August ready to fire, 844 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: and I was sitting there and I'm like, fuck, like 845 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 4: I'm getting sick of this babcock shit, and like, you know, 846 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: I was sick to my stomach when he got hired. 847 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: But I'm like, you know what if I fire this 848 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: shit out, Like anybody who doesn't know me thinks I'm 849 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: some fucking ranting and raving lunatic that just spends all 850 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 4: my time right that, I'm fucking bitter, and I walk 851 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: around the earth fucking with Babs living in my head. 852 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: Like they think I'm a fucking fanatic. I go, you 853 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 4: know what, I'm just gonna let this shit sit. And 854 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: if he's doing it now, he's probably gonna continue and 855 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: I'll just wait, maybe he'll do it some more and 856 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 4: there'll be a time down the road. Well not even 857 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: a month later, Biz came out with that tweet because 858 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: some guys had messaged him and he fired it out online. 859 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 4: And the moment I saw that, I was like, yes, 860 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 4: because bessing that and spitting chick let's they have the 861 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: biggest podcast. I mean, they got a platform. They have 862 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 4: the biggest podcast in hockey. Like when they say something, 863 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 4: people hear about it. So once that came out, I 864 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: was happy to pile on. I'm like, I'm messaging Biz, 865 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: I'm like I got this and retweeting everything and I'm 866 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 4: doing whatever I can. And yeah, it ended up being like, 867 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 4: like you said, like the immediate reaction is to push back. 868 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: So the NHL pushes back. The Columbus Blue Jackets release 869 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: a statement. The nhlpaight even pushes back, and then Biz 870 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: doubled down, tripled down, was like, no, like that's not true, 871 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 4: Like I have that's not true. This is what happened. 872 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: So they did an investigation and sure as shit, I 873 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: don't know whatever, Like I don't know all of it 874 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: by any stretch of the imagination. But I had heard 875 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 4: that the that the thing that broke his back, Babs 876 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 4: his back was they had just drafted a kid out 877 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: of Michigan second overall last year. He's a Canadian kid, 878 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: but very highly touted. His name's Adam Fantilly. They ended 879 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: up picking him third. He slipped the third, big deal. 880 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 4: He's an excellent player. And what I had heard is 881 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 4: that he was living in Columbus in the summer. Babs 882 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 4: invited him over for lunch over at wherever Babs was 883 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 4: living in Columbus. So this kid comes over to babs 884 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: his backyard for lunch. Babs doesn't say a word to him. 885 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: He says, give me your phone, open, unlock your phone, 886 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: give it to be Grabs his phone, scrolling through his 887 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 4: pictures for like five minutes. The kids were whatever it was. 888 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 4: The kid's just standing there, and then he gives him 889 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: back his phone. He goes, Okay, you're good to go. 890 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 4: No lunch, no nothing beat it. And I think that's 891 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 4: what as soon as that kind of came out and 892 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 4: they found out about that, because he was trying to 893 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 4: cover himself and be like hey, no, like you know, 894 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 4: and with some of the older guys, the veteran guys, 895 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 4: he was like, Hey, I'm doing a team collage. It's 896 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: good for team building, and you know, do you have pictures? 897 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: And can I get some pictures of your family? Like 898 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: if I wanted to make a collage, I'd be like, hey, John, 899 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 4: you know, do you have any pictures of your family 900 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 4: or your dog or you know whatever, you know, can 901 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 4: you send them to me. I'm to give me your 902 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 4: phone or put it up on airplay like like anyways, 903 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: but he was doing different things with different guys. It 904 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 4: was a straight up power play. 905 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's playing he's trying to play mental warfare 906 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: with these It's everything to him, is he doesn't care 907 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: if they got naked pictures or having say, it's not 908 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: even about that. 909 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: No, I mean I went online and called him a pervert. 910 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 4: I will say that was probably you know, I don't 911 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 4: think Babs is a pervert. I just kind of said 912 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 4: it because I'm like, look, you could say that. I mean, yeah, 913 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,479 Speaker 4: that could be. I don't think that was the case. 914 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 4: I think it was just him. It was just a 915 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: straight up power play. But like, honestly, I don't even 916 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 4: know how you would look it up. But I think 917 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: he's got to be the only NHL head coach to 918 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 4: ever get hired and not make it to training camp. 919 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 4: I mean, unless the coach got hired and passed away 920 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 4: in the summer, I don't know, but he's gonna be to. 921 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: Me that move. I don't care if you're an NHL 922 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: hockey player, if you're working at Will's Fargo. You can't 923 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: push around the dude that's thirty five or forty because 924 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: they'll push back. But the kid that's twenty two that 925 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: knows nothing and is just happy to be there at first, 926 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: they're pretty vulnerable. Help you do whatever they tell you 927 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: to do. I would have gotten naked if the guy 928 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: would have told me to get it. You know, you 929 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: just what are you gonna say? 930 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 4: No, You're just this isn't your head coach. This guy, 931 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways is in charge of how 932 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: your first years are you're this You're just got to 933 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: a control your future. Did like, hey, this is Mike Babcock. 934 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 4: This guy's wont to Stanley Cup. He's I mean, this 935 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 4: guy's in charge of how your career is going to 936 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 4: go in a lot of ways, at least at first. 937 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 4: And yeah, so it was a straight up power. What's 938 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 4: crazy to me is like, you know, he does no hockey. 939 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, he's like like if he could have 940 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 4: just just don't be an idiot and just coach hockey, 941 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 4: he probably does decent there. You know, they weren't great, 942 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 4: but he, I mean, he knows hockey, so they're probably 943 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 4: to be honest. I put to bet five hundred bucks 944 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 4: on the Columbus Blue Jackets. I took the over on 945 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 4: their points for the year, and I hate the guy, 946 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know what, they're gonna get more 947 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 4: than seventy two points with this guy. I took the 948 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 4: over and he fucked me there too. Again lost that 949 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 4: bad as well. 950 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: But Carva, you finally won the art. I mean, that 951 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: was validation for everything you've been saying for a games, 952 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: and that's you couldn't ever dreamed that would have been 953 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: that good. 954 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 5: No. 955 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 4: When he got hired, I was I was pissed off 956 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 4: because I'm like, man, this guy's gonna get another chance, 957 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 4: it's gonna get more wins. I mean, he's as far 958 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: as numbers wise, he's probably in the Hockey Hall of Fame. 959 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 4: But that move alone not only canned him out of 960 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 4: his job, ruin his career. I don't think he's getting 961 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: into the Hockey Hall of Fame. They're not gonna happen, 962 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: no chance. What thing you know you've told stories about overseas. 963 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 5: And I do. 964 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: On a serious note, the one thing that I respect, 965 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's coolest part about hockey is I 966 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: guess if you're Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid, you're not 967 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time in the minors. But neither 968 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper or the great players. But most guys kind 969 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: of got to earn their You don't just get to 970 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: go to the show, right, I mean you got drafted 971 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: forty second? Is that the second round? Yeap? Second round? Yeah, 972 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: you don't just go right to the big club, right, No? No, no, 973 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: what's that? What's the minor league hockey experience? 974 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 5: Like? 975 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 4: You know what it's? If I was running a team. 976 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 4: One of the first things, and this is I was 977 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 4: drafted by New Jersey. So my coming up was with 978 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: Lou Lamarillos with the Islanders. And you know, if you 979 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 4: look at the let's say, the most successful team, I'll 980 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 4: just do the most successful teams in the last let's 981 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: call it twenty five years, like kind of overall. Now, 982 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 4: I guess the Red Wings have been down, but I'll 983 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 4: just do my time period. So from two thousand twenty fifteen, 984 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 4: the most successful teams were Detroit and New Jersey were 985 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 4: probably you know, I mean Chicago was getting going, La 986 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 4: was getting going, but those two teams. 987 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, the Devils were always good 988 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: in the lakes, I mean dominant. 989 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 4: Dominant, and what was one of Lou Lamarillo's new when 990 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 4: he was there, Hey, unless you're playing in the miners, 991 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 4: doesn't matter that there was. I can think of two 992 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 4: people that went through the New Jersey organization that didn't 993 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 4: play in the miners, Scott Gomez and Scott Niedermeyer. Those 994 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: were the only two guys because they came to camp 995 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 4: and they were head and shoulders above everybody else. But 996 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 4: unless you're head and shoulders, which isn't going to happen 997 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 4: very often. You're going to the miners. That's just how 998 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 4: it is. Hey, you might be there for forty games, 999 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 4: you might be there for two three years. It all 1000 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 4: depends on how it goes. I think the Miners is. 1001 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 4: I think it's awesome. I think if I was running 1002 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 4: a team, I would I would do the exact same thing. Like, 1003 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 4: unless you are head and shoulders above, you are going 1004 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 4: to the miners, and look, you can learn how to 1005 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: be a pro there. I mean it's a it's a look. 1006 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 4: You're not flying private, you're not eating flame mignolls. You 1007 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 4: gotta Hey, you got to figure out how go rent 1008 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 4: the place, go get yourself a car, figure out how 1009 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 4: to get yourself to practice, figure out how to fill 1010 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 4: your free time. Like you know college guys and you 1011 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 4: know junior guys or whatever. You were in high school 1012 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: or you're in college. Hey, now you got nothing to do. 1013 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: You got to figure out how to fill your time 1014 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 4: and not negatively and learn that stuff there. And obviously 1015 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 4: there's the on ice stuff too where you improve. But yeah, 1016 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 4: the Miners is good. I think I ended up playing 1017 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 4: like two hundred and fifty games or so. 1018 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: There are you screwing around or is it pretty is 1019 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: it pretty serious with New Jersey like the game, like 1020 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: you can't be showing up the games hungover and stuff, 1021 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: or do you just get weeded out of that organization 1022 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: or is it Oh yeah, no you wouldn't, Yeah, you wouldn't. 1023 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 4: I mean, look, there's a Hey, if you show up hungover, 1024 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 4: you better hide it. And if you're hungover, you better 1025 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 4: you better play hard that you better do that. You 1026 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 4: don't want to do that very often, so yeah, yeah, 1027 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 4: I mean you definitely gotta got to take it seriously. 1028 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 4: But I mean there's also something to be said every 1029 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 4: once in a while, I'm playing well, the playing guilty, 1030 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 4: that's all right, hey, but you better play hard. 1031 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: So you have an upcoming. 1032 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 6: Fantasy football draft, well then you need to check out 1033 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 6: the Fantasy Pros Draft Wizard. When you sink your fantasy 1034 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 6: football league with Wizard, you'll get an instant report that 1035 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 6: shows you how the rest of your league drafts. 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You can see all 1046 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 6: of this and more at fantasypros dot com slash volume today. 1047 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: Is it hard to play a game hungover in the 1048 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: in the NHL? 1049 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 3: Hmmm? 1050 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 4: I didn't do it very often. I know I have 1051 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 4: the in one thing and whatever, but nah, I didn't 1052 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 4: do it very often. I did it for a stretch 1053 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 4: of games in Columbus my second year after we were 1054 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 4: out and things weren't going well, and I'm like, you know, 1055 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 4: fuck it. Yeah, I would say it's not very much fun. 1056 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 4: Your energy level is a little bit low until you 1057 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: start sweating. It's kind of a struggle. But I mean, 1058 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 4: I actually think there's a little value to it. Like 1059 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 4: if you're in a little bit of a slump or 1060 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 4: things aren't going real now, I wouldn't want to like 1061 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 4: this to be your number one option, Like there's other 1062 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 4: things you do, but hey, every once in a while 1063 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 4: you go blow it out with the boys and everybody 1064 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 4: shows up and you're all kind of in the same boat, 1065 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 4: and you'll simplify your game, that's for sure. 1066 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: You went to Russia right at the toward the end 1067 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: of your career, yeah, my last year. Yeah, yeah, I 1068 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: know that was was that quite the experience over there? 1069 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 4: That was That was an experience. It was a overall 1070 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 4: it was a very good experience. When I knew I 1071 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 4: was done, you know, and going back to the to 1072 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 4: the American Hockey League, the minor leagues for NHL Hockey. 1073 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: It's a great league. But going back to the American 1074 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 4: League when you're you know, thirty three, thirty four years old, 1075 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 4: that ain't that much fun. So I'm like, I'm going 1076 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 4: to try something different. And I'd been to Russia because 1077 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 4: I played in the World Championpionships there once for Team Canada. 1078 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 4: I had a good time. I mean, there were some 1079 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 4: long days, but it was a three week tournament and 1080 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, I thought it was kind of cool. 1081 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: So that was kind of the only place that I 1082 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 4: was interested in playing. 1083 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. 1084 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 4: I played on an expansion team in Vladivostock, the only 1085 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 4: reason why I got a contract. There was a team 1086 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: in Belarus when I in that, so they would be 1087 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 4: about end of July. I'm like, okay, I mentioned I 1088 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 4: hire a Russian agent. He's like, Belarus, Minsk wants you. 1089 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 4: I go, okay, perfect. So I sit around and wait 1090 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 4: for a fucking contract. This is now, it's August. First, 1091 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: we get into the September first, I'm like, hey, you 1092 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 4: know it's coming. It's coming middle of September. Now, like 1093 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 4: all the NHL training camps have started, Like I could 1094 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 4: have got a tryout somewhere. Now it's too late, and 1095 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, so I trained all summer. Minsk 1096 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 4: isn't calling anymore. 1097 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like, so. 1098 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 4: The assistant coach my first year with the New Jersey 1099 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 4: Devils was a guy named Slava Fatiso, Hockey Hall of 1100 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 4: Famer played like forever won Stanley Cups played for the 1101 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 4: Red Army. Has a great documentary. You ever look for 1102 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 4: something to watch, watch a docum mentually called Red Army. 1103 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 4: It's fantastic. This guy is like, if there's one hockey player, 1104 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 4: actually one person on Earth hockey player for sure that 1105 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 4: I would like to like know, like what his bottom 1106 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 4: line is like I'd like to go into his bank 1107 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 4: account and be like, what is this guy worth? That 1108 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 4: guy for me is Slavia fatisof because he is Putin's boy. 1109 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 4: He went, he retired, he went back to Russia. He 1110 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 4: was like Minister of sport. Then he was a politician. 1111 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: And I would love to know what this guy's. 1112 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 1: What would you guess, well over hundreds of millions, I'm 1113 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: thinking billions. Yeah, he's one of those dudes, the oliogarchs. 1114 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: They were all trying to take their ship. That you know, 1115 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: he's Ruin's boy. 1116 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 4: So like, like, you know, I know him as Slava, 1117 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 4: the guy that would skate me after practice, Like I 1118 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 4: know him from New Jersey. He would call me Nisha, 1119 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 4: I'd call him Slava. He yell at me, I'd skate harder. 1120 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 4: So I called him first time I talked to him 1121 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 4: in like fifteen years and call him and I'm like, hey, 1122 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 4: slab it, it's Mike Commodore. He's like, ah, mesha, Misha. 1123 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 4: I go heah, I want to play in Russia. Can 1124 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 4: you give me a contract? He's like, ah, Misha, you 1125 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 4: good guy. Okay, just hangs up the phone. I'm like, 1126 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 4: what the fuck next? Day contract offer vladim Ostok, so 1127 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 4: I sign it, and you know, I had a general 1128 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 4: idea of you know, Russia a little bit, and I'm 1129 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 4: like a lot of Vostok, Like where the fuck is Vladivostok. 1130 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 4: I pull it up on Google Maps and bladim Ostok 1131 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 4: is like sixteen miles from North Korea on the Pacific Ocean. 1132 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 4: So other than one other team, the rest of the 1133 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 4: league is east. Yeah, way west, way west west yeah yeah, 1134 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 4: going straight west. So like anyways, long story short, like 1135 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,479 Speaker 4: our road trips, we'd go on the road every eight days. 1136 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 4: We'd play four games at home, four on the road, 1137 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 4: four games at home, four on the road, which is crazy. 1138 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 4: We should have went on the road for like six weeks. 1139 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 4: So our like just to start the road trip was 1140 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 4: a ten hour flight just to get it going nine 1141 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 4: time zones. It was crazy, but we made. 1142 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: Jump by it, didn't you get jump by the Russian 1143 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: mob or something over there? I don't know if it 1144 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: was the Russian mom, Can you tell can you tell 1145 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: that story? Sure? Yeah? 1146 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 4: So this was like this was the year of the 1147 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 4: Sochi Olympics, and we were we had seven games left 1148 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: in the season. We had three there was a four 1149 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 4: week break for the Olympics, and yeah, sorry, four week 1150 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 4: break for the Olympics. We just got back from a 1151 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 4: road trip. We got this break, and then we have 1152 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 4: three games after the Olympics and we're like kind of 1153 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 4: close to being in the playoffs. Anyways, long story short. 1154 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 4: I get off the plane. I got this little department 1155 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 4: in downtown Vladivostock. I had a driver there. You have 1156 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 4: to have a driver there. If you don't have a driver, 1157 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 4: you're going to kill yourself. Like there's no rules on 1158 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: the road. You have to hire a driver. I go 1159 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: North American guy, you're dead for sure, you're in an accident, 1160 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 4: bare minimum. So I had to drive the driver. Full 1161 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 4: time driver costs like five hundred American a month. It 1162 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 4: was unbelievab Wow, full time driver like Texas guy whenever 1163 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 4: waited on you. Yep, I texted ole eeg or didn't 1164 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 4: speak any English, just text him copy paste through a 1165 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 4: little app'd. He was reliable. 1166 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: He was great. He cried when I left. He loved you. 1167 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: Should have brought him over to Scottsdale with you. He 1168 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: might have been a little overwhelmed here. Yeah, so we 1169 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: get back. 1170 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I I get back to my 1171 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,280 Speaker 4: apartment after one of these trip flights back from Moscow, 1172 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 4: so I'm jet lagged. It's like five o'clock at night, 1173 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 4: but I'm like, I want to go to bed, but 1174 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, I know I can't. And so these couple 1175 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 4: of Russians guys like, hey, let's go for dinner. Okay, 1176 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 4: So go for dinner at this very nice restaurant in 1177 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 4: downtown Vladivos, dot French place called the Brasserie on North 1178 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 4: American standards. It's like a four or five star restaurant, 1179 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 4: really nice, and it's packed. So the three of us 1180 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 4: go in there. I don't end up eating a whole 1181 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 4: lot of food. I pound a whole shitload of beers 1182 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 4: and some shots of vodka, and you know, I definitely 1183 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 4: got a good buzz on. Kind of the dinner finishes up, 1184 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 4: I get the tab and I go to walk out 1185 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 4: the door. One of the guys is in the bathroom 1186 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 4: and there was like kind of a little brick hallway 1187 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 4: to get out of the restaurant. Next thing I know, 1188 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 4: I am getting like teed off on by two dudes, 1189 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 4: like just straight up I get suckered and they're just 1190 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 4: basically feeding me my lunch. One guy right in front 1191 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 4: of me, one from the side. I sober up quick. 1192 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like I 1193 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 4: didn't say anything, I didn't do anything, Like what was 1194 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 4: I going to say? Nobody there speaks English and I 1195 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 4: don't speak Russian, Like nobody's gonna understand what I say anyways, 1196 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 4: So I push one guy off, break the guy's nose 1197 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 4: in front of me, and then I grab the guy 1198 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 4: and we go flying back into the restaurant. Long story short, 1199 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 4: it is a full blown brawl. People are getting up, screaming, 1200 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 4: running out of the restaurant. I'm throwing chairs, there's cutlery 1201 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 4: fucking flying, I'm throwing punches, I'm kicking fight probably goes 1202 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 4: on for like, I don't know, probably like two three minutes, 1203 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 4: Like it was a decent amount of time. 1204 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: So you're kind of winded, but you're just trying to survive. 1205 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I'm 1206 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 4: fighting for my life, Like I don't know what the 1207 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 4: fuck you guys might knife me, I don't know. And 1208 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 4: the end of the fight comes and I'm in a 1209 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 4: headlog a guy. One guy's underneath me and he got 1210 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 4: me in a headlock and chokehold or whatever, and I'm 1211 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 4: like trying to reverse head bottom to try and catch 1212 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 4: his nose or something, and his buddy's like booting me 1213 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 4: in the side of the head and here's sirens. This 1214 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 4: guy lets me go, I roll off. They're gone. They 1215 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 4: bolt out the door. So I should have taken a picture. 1216 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 4: It's one thing because now I'm totally sober, and I 1217 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 4: like pick myself. I kind of tweaked my knee too. 1218 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 4: I didn't tell him anything about that, but I picked 1219 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 4: myself up off the ground, and I like look around 1220 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 4: and like nothing, like the windows weren't broken or anything, 1221 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 4: but like, this fucking restaurant is a disaster. There's nobody left. 1222 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,439 Speaker 4: It's like a movie scene. Oh, it's like a movie scene. 1223 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 4: Staff's in the corner, scared shitless, plates, nives, fork all 1224 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 4: over the fucking place. And I like, I'm like, what 1225 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 4: the fuck. I should have taken a picture, like a 1226 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 4: panoramic one. So I stumble out of the restaurant, thrown 1227 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 4: in the back of the cop car and they took 1228 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 4: me Like I guess what would be the equivalent of 1229 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 4: like the drunk tank or whatever At the police station. 1230 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 4: I was in there for a couple of hours. The 1231 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 4: one other Russian guy who spoke English. He helped in 1232 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 4: the fight as well, Illia Zubaf. He played a little 1233 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 4: bit for Ottawa. He spoke English as well. He started 1234 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 4: calling people, which was a mistake. He called the team, 1235 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 4: but then he started calling like his which I'm assuming 1236 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 4: is his like mob buddies. Anyways, to finish the story off, 1237 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm sitting in prison with like a bunch of Mongolian 1238 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 4: looking motherfuckers in here because we're like on the other 1239 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 4: side of Mongolia and China, yeah, China in the ocean. 1240 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there. I'm like, man, I got to get 1241 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 4: the fuck out of here. And there was like this 1242 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 4: dude in a leather jacket. I thought he was an 1243 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 4: undercover cop. He was like kind of walking by and 1244 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 4: looking at me, and I'm like I just figured he 1245 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 4: was an undercover cop. He wasn't in uniform. And after 1246 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 4: a couple of times, he just stopped in front of 1247 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 4: the door jail door opened it up. He's like Misha, 1248 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 4: and I'm like duh. Yeah, I'm like duh, and he 1249 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 4: like waves me over. I go, so get up, follow him, 1250 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 4: fall him right out the front doors of the police station, 1251 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 4: right back to the bar. 1252 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: And did you ever play for the team? Yeah? 1253 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 4: No, we won our last three games. I got fined 1254 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: a month's pay, which was like forty or fifty grand 1255 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 4: and American. And the deal was they wanted to kick 1256 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 4: me off the team before because all this shit. I'm like, 1257 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: good luck, I go, you need you guys need to 1258 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 4: win all three games. I go, good luck, kick me 1259 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 4: off the team. I go, I'll go home right fucking now. 1260 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 4: I go, that's fine with me. Good luck winning the 1261 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: rest of the games. So one of the guys was 1262 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 4: he was a gangster and prison tattoos over his hands, 1263 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 4: didn't understand hockey, but loved it when i'd level somebody 1264 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 4: once in a while. He's like in Russian, they're chatting, right, 1265 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 4: because they don't speak any English. I'm getting interpreted through 1266 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 4: one of the players. They're like, we're not kicking you 1267 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 4: off the team. You're finding we're finding you a month's pay. 1268 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, you guys owe me a month's pay. 1269 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 4: But they're like, we need cash. There's one thing that 1270 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 4: there's a couple of things with Russians. Two things they 1271 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 4: care about rubles they care about money and don't ever 1272 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 4: embarrass them in front of women. Those are the two 1273 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 4: things that don't Those are the two most important things 1274 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 4: to Russians. So anyways, I end up we need the money. 1275 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, you guys owe me. You know we 1276 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 4: need cash. I go, okay, I'll bring it tomorrow. 1277 00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: So I go down. 1278 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 4: I run down to my bank and I get so 1279 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 4: at the time it was like, I think it was 1280 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 4: like nine hundred and fifty thousand rubles in cash. I'm 1281 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 4: jamming them in my winter coat. I'm like, I'm gonna 1282 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 4: get jumped for sure when I get more. When I'm 1283 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 4: running out of this bank, I run as fast as 1284 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 4: I had back to the bank. They're blowing my phone 1285 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,479 Speaker 4: up like we need the money now. I'm like, hey, dude, 1286 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 4: I'm not calling my driver. We have practice tomorrow. So 1287 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 4: I give them, give them the money. So the deal was, 1288 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 4: I got I get fined a month's pay, but if 1289 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 4: you make the playoffs, if we make the playoffs, I 1290 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 4: get the money back. I'm like okay, but I'm like, 1291 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 4: all right, I doubt that that's gonna happen, but fine, 1292 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 4: I go deal. And so anyways, we win our last game, 1293 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 4: places going crazy like they've never seen anything like this before. 1294 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 4: Hockey and Vladivostok, like I said, it was an expansion team. 1295 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 4: So we get back into the room. I'm just screaming 1296 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 4: about rubles. I'm like rubles for my rubles, and you 1297 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 4: know what, to their credit, the guy went and got 1298 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 4: the rubles. He gave me everything back except for three 1299 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 4: thousand dollars American equivalent rubles whatever that was. He kept 1300 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 4: that because the police station wanted a new TV. You know, 1301 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 4: it's pretty cool. 1302 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool, is like one you could make a 1303 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: little decent coin over there, But like, where could you 1304 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: have ever got that experience in your life if you 1305 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: hadn't done that. Not even stock in the fight, but 1306 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: just being in these towns in Russia, seeing this society 1307 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't have rules, a small percentage of people run everything. 1308 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: It's like the cartel in Mexico or whatever. Right, there's 1309 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: just it's it's nothing like Scottsdale or Vegas, for Miami 1310 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: or dall It's not even imparable. 1311 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 4: No, it was a great experience. I'm glad I did it. 1312 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 4: There were definitely some long days, but you're like us, 1313 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 4: say what Russian people your average Russian is a good dude. 1314 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 4: Like I like the Russians. I enjoyed the guys I 1315 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 4: played with, Like they're good dudes. I like the people 1316 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 4: around town. I got treated well babes, but it's yeah, 1317 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 4: they don't age well. But yeah, all they do is 1318 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 4: smoke and eat lettuce. But you know, once they get 1319 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 4: into like the ones that are once they're in charge, 1320 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 4: it's just like automatic that they just fuck you and 1321 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 4: like the people just take it. And you know, I'm 1322 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 4: just coming from the like the hockey team. We were 1323 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 4: supposed to get paid on bonuses and they'd be laid 1324 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 4: on payments and I'd be like, hey, you know, I'm 1325 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: used to North America where it's like, hey, my fucking 1326 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 4: paycheck should be there on you know, the fifteenth and 1327 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 4: the last day of the month, and it'd be late 1328 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 4: a month and. 1329 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: They're just like, ah, Russia. I'm like, all right, anything 1330 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: goes okay, I get you out here on this. You 1331 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: want a Stanley Cup? Yeah, you know, you get it 1332 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: was game seven too, and went to Game seven right 1333 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: that series. 1334 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 4: It was almost a carbon copy of what we just 1335 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 4: watched against Florida, except we were up three to one, 1336 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 4: not three. Nothing Againstadminton two, same situation. 1337 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: So that feeling when they come and storming back and 1338 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: then you're in game seven, are you nervous as hell 1339 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: that whole day? Does that day feel like forever? Get 1340 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: into the game? I mean, are you terrified that you 1341 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be in the wrong part of history? Right? 1342 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 4: Right? 1343 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1344 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: You know what for for me, like, we were up 1345 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 4: three to one with Game five at home? Yeah, playing 1346 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 4: a lot, right, I was playing a lot. Yeah, I 1347 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 4: was playing. You know, I was one of the one 1348 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 4: or two top minute defensemen. I'm playing a lot. I 1349 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 4: was a big part of it. 1350 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 5: You know. 1351 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 4: Game five, we're in overtime on the power play. Our 1352 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 4: power play was sick. I wasn't the power play. I 1353 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 4: was on the penalty kill. I'm like, there's a thirty 1354 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 4: percent chance that this is over. They score shorthand and 1355 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 4: now we go back to Aadmonton. They kicked the shit 1356 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 4: out of us in game six. Game six was over 1357 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 4: in the first five minutes. 1358 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that place? Is that place nuts? I 1359 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: mean on TV it seems like berserk, but. 1360 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yes, it is like both they're now in 1361 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 4: a new rink, which is way night. Yes, the short art. 1362 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 4: They love hockey there. It is bananas. There's no doubt 1363 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 4: about it. 1364 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1365 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 4: And so we go back for Game seven, and I 1366 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 4: will say, to answer your question, I wasn't. I wasn't nervous. 1367 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 4: I was excited, and the hardest part was waiting to 1368 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 4: get the game started. I was excited like I There 1369 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 4: was no real nervous like obviously really wanted to win 1370 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 4: and losing would have sucked. But I was confident in 1371 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 4: our team. I didn't know for sure if we'd win 1372 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 4: by any stretch of the imagination, but I was very 1373 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 4: excited to like, hey, let's get this going. I can't wait. 1374 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, thankfully it worked out. It was a tight game. 1375 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 4: I think it ended up being. We won three to 1376 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 4: one with an empty netter, thankfully for us. We scored 1377 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 4: a goal like three four minutes into the game, so 1378 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 4: we were up one right away, and then we were 1379 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 4: up to nothing, and then they scored a goal in 1380 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 4: third period I believe it was, and then our goalie 1381 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 4: had If you were to look it up, it's one 1382 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 4: of the best saves in NHL history, play at Stanley 1383 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 4: Cup history. Our goalie saved which would have tied it 1384 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 4: up at two to two and then we scored an 1385 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 4: empty net and that was the game was over. But yeah, 1386 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 4: it was definitely a great experience. But like I said, 1387 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 4: a lot of correlations to the series had just happened. 1388 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 4: Instead of Florida, it was Carolina, and it was the 1389 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 4: same situation against Edmonton. We were up three to one. 1390 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 4: We didn't blow up three nothing lead. 1391 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: But what was that night? 1392 01:02:59,400 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 5: Like? 1393 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: You know what we I mean, it was awesome. It 1394 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: was you know, we won. 1395 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 4: They actually changed some rules after because we won, and 1396 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 4: I didn't have my parents there just because they wanted 1397 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 4: to come. My dad came to Game five, but they 1398 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 4: were going, all I'm from Edmonton, so they were going 1399 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 4: all the games at Edmonton. So it worked out great 1400 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 4: that way. But you know, if we would have lost 1401 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 4: Game seven, I was like, hey, like, I'd love for 1402 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 4: you guys to be here, but if it doesn't work out, 1403 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 4: I go, I'm not going to want to see anybody. 1404 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 4: And I go, look, I just want to do things 1405 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 4: how I've done them, which is by myself. And my 1406 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 4: parents were ass and they're like, perfect, good luck, have fun, 1407 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 4: we'll be watching on TV. So after we win, I'm like, fuck, 1408 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 4: kind of be nice to have my parents here. But anyways, 1409 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 4: there was a ton of people on the ice. I mean, 1410 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: obviously raising the cup. It was awesome, the kind of 1411 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 4: funny story I have. So I'm standing on the ice 1412 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,959 Speaker 4: cups getting passed around. 1413 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: That was awesome. 1414 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 4: There was a flood of people on the ice, Like 1415 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 4: I mean, there was obviously immediate family, but there was 1416 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 4: like uncles. I'm like, who the fuck are half these people. 1417 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 4: Everybody's like congratulating. I'm like thanks, thanks. So I'm standing 1418 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 4: there just kind of taking it all in and I 1419 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 4: got a tap on my shoulder behind me. Hey my congratulations, 1420 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 4: And I turn around just figure it's like somebody's uncle 1421 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 4: or something, and I'm like, yeah, thanks man. And I'm like, 1422 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 4: oh shit, I'm like kid Rock. So Kid Rock was 1423 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 4: on the ice. I love kid Rock. And he's like, oh, 1424 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 4: call me Bob. I go, Bob. 1425 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 5: I go. 1426 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, congratulations. I go, Hey, fuck that shit. 1427 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: I go, thank you. 1428 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 4: But I'm like, man, are you going out tonight? He's like, yeah, 1429 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 4: you want to come. I'm like, yeah, I want to come. 1430 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 4: He's like all right, You're in. So now I love 1431 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 4: Kid Rock. We go into the dress room a bunch 1432 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 4: of place was packed and then they kick everybody out 1433 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 4: except for players and staff. And it was awesome. Like, 1434 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, you know, guys are giving speeches. 1435 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 4: We had some veterans on that team that had been 1436 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 4: in the league for like fifteen years, that had never 1437 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 4: won before, and so it was awesome. But the whole time, 1438 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there and I'm like, God, damn it, Kid 1439 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 4: Rock ain't gonna wait for me forever? 1440 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 1: Here? Did he leave? I didn't shower ready to go. 1441 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, hey, can we do this tomorrow? 1442 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 4: I want to get the fuck out of here. And 1443 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 4: it ended up the speech when too long, Kid Rock 1444 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 4: left and so I just did. We all ended up 1445 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 4: getting just wasted right at the rink. We had a 1446 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 4: little thing for us up in the up in the arena. 1447 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 4: It was a good time. 1448 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 1: What'd you do with the cup the day you get it? 1449 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 5: Uh? We had. 1450 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 4: So there was another guy, Ray Whitney's his name. He 1451 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 4: lives in Scottsdale as well. We're from the same little hometown. 1452 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 4: So we kind of split three days. But my official 1453 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 4: time with it, I got took it on a pub crawl. 1454 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 4: My parents at the time lived right outside of Edmonton 1455 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 4: and Edmonton. Calgary is a big rivalry, and I used 1456 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 4: to play in Calgary before, and I i'd never really 1457 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 4: I spend my time in Calgary, and I'm like, look, 1458 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 4: you know, I had some buddies from home come over, 1459 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 4: rented a party bus. I go, look, I go, we're 1460 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 4: not going out in Edmonton. I go, you animals are 1461 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 4: going to get By this time, I had already been 1462 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 4: to like ten or twelve of these fucking cup parties, 1463 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 4: so I knew how it worked. As soon as one 1464 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 4: person puts one drop of booze in that thing, it's 1465 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 4: on for everybody around. So I go, look, I got 1466 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 4: some buddies from home that are total savages. I go, look, 1467 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 4: I go, we're going to go out to the bar 1468 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 4: here in Edmonton. Somebody can to say something to me. 1469 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 4: One of you guys is going to get pissed off, 1470 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 4: and it's going to end up in a fucking shit show. 1471 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 4: I go, We're going to take a party bus and 1472 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 4: we're going to Calgary. Nobody's going to bother us there. 1473 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 4: We'll have a nice time. 1474 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: So I did that. 1475 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 4: We did a pub crawl in Calgary, and then a 1476 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 4: couple days later, when I was in school the Dallas 1477 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,439 Speaker 4: Stars one in nineteen ninety nine and Ed Belford played 1478 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 4: for the University of North Dakota and he brought the 1479 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 4: cup backack and I was there at the time, and 1480 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 4: I thought that was cool. So I remember thinking, like, 1481 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, I never thought it was actually going to happen, 1482 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know, if I was ever lucky enough, 1483 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 4: I'd like to do that. So on one of the days, 1484 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 4: a couple days after my pub crawl, North Dakota has 1485 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 4: a big flight school there, so they were like, hey, 1486 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 4: I just said, hey, look, I'd like to bring the cup. 1487 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 4: They're like, okay, great, but I'm like, hey, I'm not 1488 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 4: flying commercial to fucking Grand Forks. It's not going to work. 1489 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 4: It'll take forever. You got to send a plane. They're 1490 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 4: like done. So guy came and picked me up, picked 1491 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 4: my family, like my parents and stuff up. It was 1492 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 4: really fun. 1493 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: On a serious note, obviously, everyone knows the Stanley Cup, 1494 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: whether you fall hockey or not. A kid from Canada 1495 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,439 Speaker 1: play college jockey to one day be a Stanley Cup 1496 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: and have that thing with you for a day with 1497 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: your friends, I mean, was there ever a moment You're like, 1498 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I can't this is this feels like a dream? Yeah? 1499 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely was. Like there was a couple of moments, 1500 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 4: like before Game seven when you know you're actually like 1501 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 4: this is it. Like somebody's winning the fucking thing tonight. 1502 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 4: That was a moment once it. You know, I remember 1503 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,959 Speaker 4: I was on the ice when we scored the empty netter. 1504 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 4: We scored the empty netter with like a minute to 1505 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 4: go to go up to That was another moment on 1506 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,439 Speaker 4: the ice, like raising the cup. I you know, it's 1507 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 4: people asking I'm just like, man, I'm like, I don't 1508 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 4: even know how to describe it. It's a great feeling. 1509 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 4: You know, you always, you know, growing up where I 1510 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 4: grew up, and you know, most people if you were 1511 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 4: in athletics who played hockey, it's fucking freezing up there, 1512 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 4: and you know, you always a lot of kids and 1513 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 4: dreaming about winning the Stanley Cup. For it to actually happen, 1514 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 4: it's hard to put into words. And then yeah, like 1515 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 4: the Cup parties and stuff like that, they were a 1516 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 4: lot of fun. 1517 01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 2: It was. 1518 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 4: It was nice to you know, my parents can enjoy it, 1519 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 4: and you know, buddies and stuff and mine from home 1520 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 4: and you know, people that helped me out along the way. 1521 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 4: It was it was nice to put a little get 1522 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 4: together there and people can have a good time, and 1523 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 4: yeah it was. I mean, I wish it would have 1524 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 4: happened more often, but at the end of the day, 1525 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 4: I'm lucky it happened once. 1526 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've been following the Sharks got the number 1527 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: one pick and the kid Celebrini whose dad is a 1528 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 1: local trainer for the Warriors. Yeah, so it seems like 1529 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,959 Speaker 1: a cool story. But forever, Connor McDavid and Sydney Crosby 1530 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: see this in the NBA a lot, all this hype 1531 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: and then because you got to go to the minor 1532 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:38,759 Speaker 1: so it's hard. Yeah, like is that you know, Connor 1533 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: and Sid are clearly the outliers. But do you know 1534 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 1: anything about this guy? Because I'm pretty fired up. I 1535 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: mean I kind of want to pay and just why 1536 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: is it so difficult for this guy? All these guys, 1537 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: all this talent and then they get there and then 1538 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 1: random guys end up becoming stars in the NHL and 1539 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 1: those guys never amount to shit. Yeah, it's you know, 1540 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of like football, right, I mean, guys in the 1541 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 1: sixth seventh round, brock Perty Arizona guy all of a 1542 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: sudden he's leading teams on hundred percent. 1543 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is, you know, at 1544 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's like, you know, obviously 1545 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 4: you're Connor McDavid's I mean, this celebrini kid from and 1546 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 4: I didn't know until recently that he's actually from the 1547 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 4: area there, which is really cool. That's awesome for San Jose. 1548 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, I think 1549 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 4: that's you know, you're drafting kids that are seventeen eighteen 1550 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 4: years old, like you don't really like sure, there's some 1551 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 4: of them you're pretty sure about. I get it, you know, 1552 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 4: the first overall guy. Maybe there's a couple others in there. 1553 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 4: I think there's a multitude of things that can go 1554 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 4: into it on how it doesn't work, whether it's you know, 1555 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 4: maybe maybe the guy's kind of might not be the 1556 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 4: right spot for him, maybe he doesn't fucking you know, hey, 1557 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 4: playing junior hockey, playing against boys and playing against men, 1558 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,560 Speaker 4: that's two different things. I mean, you there, that's a 1559 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 4: that's a different world. I think there's there's there's a 1560 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 4: lot that can go into it. I think for most guys, 1561 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 4: like I mean for my draft, I was drafted nineteen 1562 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 4: ninety nine. If you anybody who knows how you look 1563 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 4: up that draft, that's the worst draft in fucking hockey history. 1564 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 4: I mean I played half of the first round. I 1565 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 4: was draft in the second round, half of the first round. 1566 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 4: Didn't even play like that, like twenty games, like, so 1567 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 4: that was a complete bust of a year. I mean, 1568 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 4: it's not like I had the greatest career ever. I 1569 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 4: played just under five hundred games. I stuck around for 1570 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 4: a while and don't I won, like proud of what 1571 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 4: I did. But it's not like I had a Hall 1572 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 4: of Fame career. And if you were to redraft my draft, 1573 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 4: I'm going top ten. In between ten and fifteen, for sure, 1574 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 4: there was a point there where I might have been 1575 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 4: putting Echine towards like top five. So it's there's a 1576 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 4: lot that goes into it, a lot of luck and 1577 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 4: like you got to get in a good situation. And 1578 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 4: I think some of it too, like and we touched 1579 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 4: on it earlier. Hey, look this Macklin Celebrini from when 1580 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 4: everybody you know, I watched a game or two that 1581 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 4: he played. He played for BU, but like I didn't 1582 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 4: watch him nearly enough to have an opinion. But like, 1583 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, there's lots of these teams too that you 1584 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 4: draft these guys and there's pressure, like you draft the 1585 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 4: guy in the top five or always a high first 1586 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 4: round pick, and fans are like, you know, to me, 1587 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 4: it's kind of like a quarterback. You know, I don't 1588 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 4: know shit about football, but it's like, now, I don't 1589 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 4: get why you pick these quarterbacks. Let's say, and they 1590 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 4: go high because it's a quarterback and it's the most 1591 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 4: position important position on the team, I think, and it's like, well, 1592 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 4: they need to play, they need to play that. Well, 1593 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 4: what if the fucking guy isn't ready, Like, I don't 1594 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 4: understand why you rush these guys in here, And chances 1595 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,799 Speaker 4: are if they got picked high, they're on a shitty 1596 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 4: fucking team. 1597 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,759 Speaker 1: The difference is in foot Like in hockey, your NHL 1598 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: contract doesn't start until you get to the to the NHL, right. 1599 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 4: Your contract would start, well, it would start the moment 1600 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 4: you sign it. 1601 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: So if you sign a four or five year contract 1602 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: as a rookie, if you're in the minors for five years, 1603 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: you're getting paid whatever you're draft in the first round. 1604 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 1: They don't have your rights once you get up there. 1605 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 4: Moving forward, if you're when you when you signed, when 1606 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 4: you get drafted out of the NHL, when you sign 1607 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 4: an entry level deal, it has to be a three 1608 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 4: year deal. So to be a three year deal, and 1609 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,839 Speaker 4: they'll be two salaries, so they'll be like a million dollars. 1610 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 4: It'll be a two way contract. It's called you're making 1611 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 4: a million dollars if you're in the NHL and you're 1612 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,839 Speaker 4: making seventy five thousand dollars if you're in the minors 1613 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 4: and let's say you're going up and down like they 1614 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 4: have that broken down per day if that means. 1615 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 1: But if I'm Salabrini, I draft him one overall and 1616 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: he spends three years in the minors. After that third year, 1617 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: is he a free agent? Nope's see, in the NFL, 1618 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: you know your contract. There's because there's no minor leagues. 1619 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: It just starts, so there is a clock, right. It's 1620 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: taking in the media and it's like you become a 1621 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: true free agent or you gotta you know, extend. It's 1622 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: a little it's not you guys think are closer to 1623 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,600 Speaker 1: baseball in the sense of some of that team or 1624 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,679 Speaker 1: whatever like that you can send back and forth. There's 1625 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: none of that, so you are much more of a 1626 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: time crunch. But like you said, I mean historically you 1627 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 1: and I probably similar ages. When we were kids, guys 1628 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: would spend multiple years on the bench. Brett Farve didn't 1629 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 1: start right away. Young you back up, Aaron Rodgers backed up. Yeah, 1630 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: how it works in college a lot of times again 1631 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: makes the breath you red shirt. But in the NFL, 1632 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: now the pressure. 1633 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's clearly Mahomes as well. That was a year 1634 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 4: or two on the bat. That a year, yeah, I 1635 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 4: mean there's Jordan Love like he finished the year pretty good, right, 1636 01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you three years? Yeah, so I get the 1637 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 4: time crunch thing. But god, it's like, man, you fire 1638 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 4: it just seems like you fire some of these guys 1639 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 4: in and they get fucking killed. I mean, you're not 1640 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 4: playing everybody. I would assume you know, everybody that's out 1641 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 4: there on that NFL field was one of the best 1642 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 4: players on their team. In college. There's no one slow guys, 1643 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 4: you know, out on the field in the NFL where 1644 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,719 Speaker 4: you know, and I don't care where you are in college, 1645 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 4: there's gonna be some guys that you know, you could 1646 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 4: probably abuse a little bit or run pass where you're 1647 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 4: not you know, if you're a quarterback, you ain't running 1648 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 4: past to everybody these guys. These guys are moving. 1649 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: What do you got on tap the rest of the summer. 1650 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 1: You got golf trips? I know you're a big golfer. 1651 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of little thing. I've got 1652 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 4: to go to the Calgary Stampede next week. It's a 1653 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 4: big thing in Calgary. It's a big rodeo, one of 1654 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 4: the biggest rodeos in the world. But basically it's like 1655 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 4: basically the entire time with Calgary's hammered for ten days. 1656 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 4: So I gotta go ride a horse in that. 1657 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I knew one of my one of she's now my fiance, 1658 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 1: her good friends was Dayton the Canadian last year. I 1659 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: think went up to that and staid it was incredible. 1660 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 1: It was just it was one of the best parties 1661 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 1: she's ever been to. 1662 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it is. I'm not gonna sit 1663 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 4: here and recommend a whole lot of things you should 1664 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 4: go do in Canada. I'm not gonna sit there and 1665 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 4: pump the tires like that. There's some nice spots in Canada, 1666 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but there's lots going down down 1667 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 4: in the States. Too, But I would highly recommend going 1668 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 4: to the even if you don't. I don't know shit 1669 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 4: about rodeo. That doesn't matter. You can go to the 1670 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 4: rodeo if you want. Every day is there's a rodeo. 1671 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,600 Speaker 4: There's like the Bulls, the Bronx, the barrel Race and 1672 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,640 Speaker 4: all that in the afternoon, and then they have the 1673 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 4: Chuck Wagon races at night, and you can go to that. 1674 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 4: It would be if you're gonna go up, I would say, yeah, 1675 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 4: go there for Go there for an afternoon or an 1676 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 4: evening just to check it out. But all day there's 1677 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 4: the bars, there's tense, massive tents, there's all the big 1678 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 4: country music shows are there. Basically the entire core of 1679 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 4: downtown Calgary is getting after it for ten days. 1680 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 1: It's fun. That's awesome. Well, enjoy that, enjoy the golf. 1681 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: And I'm going to Tahoe for about three weeks. But 1682 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 1: when I get back, I gotta hit you. I owe 1683 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,560 Speaker 1: you some beers. I can't. You don't want me to 1684 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 1: tell you how much we meet for beers. I want 1685 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: to meet you for some beers so we can hear 1686 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: some more of these rushing stories. Bro, you're the man, 1687 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Mike appreciate it. I appreciate it. Have a good uh, 1688 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 1: have a good couple of weeks. Yep, we'll do. Thanks 1689 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: for having me. 1690 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 4: The volume