1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Michael Verry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: It's Charlie from BlackBerry's Mother. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: I can feel a good one coming on. 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: It's the Michael Berry Show. 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's the Friday Drive Home. 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: Ah. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, it was a story out of San Francisco 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: this week that I didn't get to, and I marked 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: it with a post it note. I wanted to make 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: sure that we get this conversation in because it's not 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: It's never about the actual incident, a shooting, an arrest. 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: It's about the extent to which it represents a bigger pattern. 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with the story. 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: A black activist in San Francisco, who led the Human 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Rights Commission for San Francisco and constantly preached about initiatives 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: to benefit the city's black community, has been arrested for 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: stealing taxpayer dollars. Oh that's a shocker. Wonder what he's 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: spent it on you don't know, already know, a lavish 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: lifestyle of trips, sports tickets. 21 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: And showing off. 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Because why steal all this money if you can't spend 23 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: it on cars and trips in instagrammable crap she's facing 24 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: seventeen felony charges and these initiatives that she took taxpayer 25 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: dollars and took it for herself like she was Black 26 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Lives Matter. They were created after Saint George Floyd overdosed 27 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: and supposedly the cops were bad. She stole more than 28 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars. Prosecutors say the story from kron TV. 29 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: After being tipped by a whistleblower and an eighteen month investigation, 30 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins has filed seventeen felony 31 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: charges against Cheryl Davis, the former executive director of San 32 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: Francisco's Human Rights Commission, alleging financial misconduct in the way 33 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 5: she distributed and used city funds for the dream Keeper Initiative, 34 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: the program designed to reinvest in San Francisco's black community. 35 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 6: We have to hold government actors accountable, certainly when they 36 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: are abusing the trust of San Franciscans, when they are 37 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 6: abusing taxpayer dollars and in this case, using funds that 38 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 6: were supposed to be targeted and given to the black 39 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 6: community to actually engage in a reinvestment in an uplifting 40 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: of community, to help children and that money was lost 41 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 6: from the community. 42 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: James Spingolo, the former executive director of the nonprofit Collective Impact, 43 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: which Davis used to run, was also charged with four felonies. 44 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 5: Prosecutors allege in addition to misappropriating funds, Davis had numerous 45 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 5: conflicts of interest. 46 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: We did find that a portion of this money was 47 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 6: spent in a manner that was self dealing and was 48 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 6: for her benefit and the benefit of her brand, ultimately 49 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 6: her finances, and paid for things that it was not intended. 50 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: To be used for. 51 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: The charges are a distortion of the truth. 52 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: What they do is they make it look like doctor 53 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: Davis was misappropriating funds for her own benefit. 54 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: Davis's attorney, Tony Brass, says what actually happened was the 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: city hired Davis, gave her no training in government worker 56 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: managing city money, and now is blaming her. 57 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: Sure, it yields an imperfect result, but that's what it is. 58 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 6: It's not felonious conduct. 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 5: The DA says the investigation is far from over. That 60 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: can mean more charges for these two or additional arrests. 61 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: It's bigger than that story. 62 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: It's how often the people who are claiming to do 63 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: good and trying to shame you while they get money. 64 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: Are actually scoundrels, absolute scoundrels. Welfare fraud, scholarship fraud, Gavin 65 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: Newsome and all the frauds there. These people are scoundrels, 66 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: and for some reason people can't admit that. Learn from 67 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: your mistakes. They're awful. They're not trying to solve the world. 68 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: They're trying to part you and your money. Period. Stop 69 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: with the guilt. The guilt is unhealthy, Sidle. You're destroying 70 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: American culture over the fear that you caused black people 71 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: to be poor, that you caused people outside of the 72 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: United States to be poor, that you caused Muslims to 73 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: be violent. 74 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: That's not on you. You heard it from me. Let 75 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: me convince you that is not on you. It's not 76 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: your fault. The failings of other people are not your fault. 77 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: You can't fix other people. 78 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to say that, because what 79 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: they're doing is using their own failings, illegitimacy of you know, 80 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: fatherless homes, violence and all that your fault. 81 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Broken countries your fault. It's not your fault. What you're 82 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: doing is good and decent, and you don't know anybody 83 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: a penny, how about that, A bunch of questions about 84 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi and all me. 85 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: Look, I got a whole presentation on this next week. 86 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: It's natural. Trump is a leader. 87 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes you've got to churn your staff, up your team 88 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: and bring in fresh voices. 89 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: It's just let's leave it at that. 90 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: I want you to join them on the front. Pew 91 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: or a sermon that is going to challenge perspectives and 92 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: ignite hearts with the transformative power of the message of Christ. 93 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: I'm talking about a renowned preacher by the name of 94 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: John Piper and his message about how Jesus defeated our 95 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: greatest enemy from the inside. So picture this a battle 96 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: of cosmic proportions, raging not on distant battlefields, but within 97 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: the very depths of our souls, a tempest in a 98 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: teapot of our own individual souls, a battle against sin, darkness, 99 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, your demons, against all that seeks to separate 100 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: us from the love of God. And in this struggle 101 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: stands Christ, our savior, our redeemer, our ultimate champion. In 102 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: this sermon, as you're going to hear, John Piper takes 103 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: us on a journey into the heart of this I mean, 104 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: it really is spiritual warfare, revealing that Christ doesn't just 105 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: defeat sin and death from the outside, but from within, 106 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: not just foreign enemies but domestic. Literally, the depths of 107 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: human broke brokenness, as we said, brokeness, but brokenness is 108 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: what he penetrated, our struggling, our suffering, our temptations, and 109 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: the ultimate victory. It's a beautiful message Jesus, you think 110 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: about it didn't just come to earth as some distant 111 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: observer passing judgment from afar. He walked among us, felt 112 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: what we feel, experienced our pain. He was made man, 113 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: was made of the flesh, just like us, our sorrows, 114 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: our humanity, our pain, our suffering, and in that he 115 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: conquered the very forces that sought to destroy us. Astor 116 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: John Piper unpacks what I consider to be a profound truth, 117 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: and he does it with what was his clarity conviction, 118 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: and he talks about how this is not just a 119 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: one time event, but an ongoing, continual, consistent reality, and 120 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: it is available to us today through his death and resurrection. 121 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Jesus broke the power of sin and death once and 122 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: for all, offering us the hope, the prayer, the opportunity 123 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: of new life and freedom in him. 124 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 7: Here we go. 125 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: In the beginning was the Word, and the word was 126 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: with God, and the Word was God. Jesus Christ is God, 127 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: and therefore he has divine rights, creator rights to subdue 128 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: all reality under his feet. However, there is another sense 129 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: in which he has that power, because what we learn 130 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: in the New Testament is that God the Father thought 131 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: it fitting and wise and just and beautiful and good 132 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: and right that the one who would reign over humans, 133 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: and reign over all the pain of humans and all 134 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: the sin of humans, should be one of them before 135 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: he assumes his role as reigning judge over them. There 136 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: is a fitness in God's mind that the one who 137 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: will rule should also redeem. That the one who will 138 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: come has a line of Judah before whom people will 139 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: want to commit suicide rather than face his judgment. That 140 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: the lion of Judah will first be the lamb slain 141 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: on the cross for the sins of those he's coming 142 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: to damn if they reject him. It is fitting that 143 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: one who sits upon the throne of the universe, calling 144 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: the shots heaven or hell, will have come among them 145 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: and said, I will save you. 146 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: I will save you if you will have me. 147 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: It is so fitting that God would do it this way, 148 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: and he did it this way. He doesn't just rule 149 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: over all things by virtue of his divine creator rights. 150 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: He rules over all things by virtue of his redeemer 151 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: purchased rights. He came among us, He bore our sin, 152 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 4: He suffered all of our temptations, He took all of 153 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: our pain, He took all of our shame, so that 154 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: he has not only a creator right to subdue the world, 155 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: he has a redeemer right. There will be a fitness 156 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: about it. Let me read you one verse on this. 157 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: Listen to Hebrews two ten. For it was fitting that He, 158 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing 159 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 4: many sons to glory, should make the founder of their 160 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: salvation perfect through suffering. That's a heavy verse. That's an 161 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 4: awesome verse. I'll read it again. This is Hebrews two ten. 162 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: For it is fitting that he, this is God, the Father, 163 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: for whom and from whom all things exist. In bringing 164 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: many of you, many of you, I pray this morning, 165 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: all of you to glory, should make the founder, that's Jesus, 166 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering. 167 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: The Lord, the Judge, the Savior over the universe, was tested. 168 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: He didn't just go up there, he was tested. He 169 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: walked all your paths, suffered all your pain, tested by 170 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 4: all of your temptations, and he conquered Satan. 171 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: Took hold of. 172 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: Him, killed him, and he let him do it. Nobody 173 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: takes my life from me. I lay it down, and 174 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: if I lay it down, I can take it again. 175 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: He handed his life over to Satan's last weapon and 176 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: from the inside bullet to fiverines. 177 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: Bishop T. D. 178 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Jacs says, come under a lot of suspicion of Late 179 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: for his personal life or his personal behaviors, for his money. 180 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. 181 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: I can't speak to any of that. 182 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: But I can tell you. 183 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: That he has a God given talent to preach, and 184 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: that when he's preaching, he has a voice that booms 185 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: like thunder and a spirit that ignites like wildfire. And 186 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: I do think it has captured hearts and souls for Christ. 187 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: And I think he's in the Hall of Fame of 188 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: Christ gatherers Christ ministers for that. Pete Rose may have 189 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: had some personal indiscretions, but you can't doubt what he 190 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: did on the field So as we delve into on 191 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: this good Friday, on this beginning of the resurrection season, 192 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: open your hearts and minds to the wisdom and inspiration 193 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: that is not that of TDJS, but God who speaks 194 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: through us. 195 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 7: I hope you enjoy this. That's absolutely a perilous time. 196 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 7: It was a time that Jesus had forewarned them about, 197 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: but they did not understand. It was a time that 198 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 7: their faith was being challenged in a way that it 199 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 7: had never been challenged before. It was a time that 200 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: it was no longer popular to say you were with Jesus. 201 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 7: They had snatched him from judgment hall to judgment hall. 202 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 7: They had beat him until he was almost unrecognizable. There 203 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 7: was no beauty about him that we should desire him. 204 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 7: And they had hung him high, had stretched him wide 205 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: on a cross until the sun got embarrassed and refused 206 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 7: to shine. The ground got nervous and began to tremble, 207 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 7: And one writer wrote, the graves opened up all over Jerusalem. 208 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 7: The veil of the temple was rent from the top 209 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 7: to the bottom. But you must be clear and understanding 210 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 7: that even even his closest disciples wondered was he really? 211 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Was he really? 212 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 7: Who they thought he was after him being publicly villainized 213 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 7: and ostracized and alienated. They ran and they hid, and 214 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 7: they were afred, and they were concerned, and they were perplexed, 215 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 7: and they were jobless, and they were lonely, and they 216 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: were uncertain, and they hid. They got darks. Oh, not 217 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 7: just on Friday. It was a dark Saturday. It was 218 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 7: a dark Sabbath. It was a dark moment of contemplation 219 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 7: and confusion and the adi nation, and them going back 220 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 7: in their mind with memory after memory of what Jesus 221 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 7: had said and what he had done. But the memory 222 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 7: that they could not get out of their head was 223 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 7: the memory of the fact that he died on that cross. 224 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 7: He got stiff on that cross. They took his Rigawati's 225 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 7: ridden body and folded his stiff arms into a death 226 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: positioner and wrapped him in linen and put him in 227 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 7: the tomb. And the thing that they knew, irrevocably, without 228 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 7: any question at all, is that Jesus, the Master who 229 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 7: had once walked on water, Jesus who had healed the 230 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 7: sick and raised the dead, Jesus who had turned water 231 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 7: into wine, Jesus who had stood on the mount of 232 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 7: transfiguration and caused the very heavens to open up. The 233 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 7: one thing they knew for sure is that Jesus, he 234 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 7: was calm, He was absolutely gone. His mama knew he 235 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 7: was gone. She had stood there and watched not only 236 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 7: the Messiah, not only the Lord, not only the King 237 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 7: of Glory, not only watching him die, but her baby, 238 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 7: her child, the one she had raised and nurtured and 239 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 7: nursed her on her own rest. She watched him die. 240 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 7: And the one thing they were clear about is that 241 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 7: he was gone, and people belget miscattered. Jesus had hung 242 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 7: himself at the crucifixion, had recognized in his own life, 243 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 7: this is too much for me to bear. Thomas had 244 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 7: ran out, doubting and saying, I just don't know what 245 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 7: to think about this. Peter had cursed somebody out and 246 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 7: denied that he had ever known the Lord. That the 247 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 7: tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. 248 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 7: Now let me be clear and our understanding of the 249 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 7: darkness of Saturday. They went back in their mind, and 250 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 7: they had seen Jesus rebuked deaths before, he had stopped 251 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 7: the widow of Name and touched the body of her son, 252 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 7: just by touching the casket, and the boy sat up 253 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 7: and walked. He had gone in and laid and spoke 254 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 7: to a dead girl and said tonight, though, come on, 255 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 7: and she had gotten up and started moving again, walking again. 256 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 7: They had seen Jesus' defeat death. He had walked down 257 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 7: to the tomb of Lazarus and stood outside the tomb 258 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 7: and said, Lazar. 259 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Come forth. 260 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 7: They had seen Jesus raise other people. But now the 261 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 7: one who raised other people from the dead had died himself. 262 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 7: And they felt hopeless, like some of you might feel 263 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 7: hopeless right now. They felt lifeless and faithless and fearful 264 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: and nervous and upset. All Saturday long, all Saturday night, 265 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 7: they felt the same way. But early Sunday morning, before 266 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 7: the dew had settled on the roads, This early Sunday morning, 267 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: before the sun had fully beatd his eye above the 268 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 7: mountainous terrain surrounding Jerusalem. Early Sunday morning, when the women 269 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 7: rose up early to go down to dress the body 270 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 7: and to add some frankrance, ince and merc so that 271 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: the stench of his death did not embarrass the legacy 272 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 7: of his memory. Early Sunday morning they got a shucker. 273 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 7: The stone had been rolled back, the grave was empty, 274 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 7: the death knapkin had been folded. You see, there is 275 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 7: a distinction between this moment from any other moment that 276 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 7: we talked about before. Yes, there were people all through 277 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: the Old Testament that had been raised from the dead, 278 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 7: but they all rose to die again. But Jesus rose 279 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 7: up to never die again. And the question hurled and 280 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 7: out of the mouth of the angel, why she keep 281 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 7: the living amongst the dead? For he is who risen. 282 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 7: He is not here. He has risen above what everybody 283 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 7: said about him. He has risen above what everybody doubted 284 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 7: in him. He has risen above every scandal and every 285 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 7: ostracization that had been applied to it. He has risen 286 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 7: above the expectations of even his followers. He has risen 287 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 7: above the powers of the Roman empower. He has risen 288 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 7: above the reach of the sand hepron court. He has 289 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 7: risen above the Pharisees and the Sadducees. He has risen 290 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 7: above death, hell, and the grave. He has snatched the 291 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 7: sting out of death and the victory out of the grave. 292 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 7: And he has risen with all power in his hand. 293 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: That's what it means to start talking about the resurrection 294 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 7: of the Lord. It is not that we don't go down. 295 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 7: It is not that it does not get dark. It 296 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 7: is not that it doesn't get deep and confusing and complexity. 297 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 7: It is not that we don't have pain and that 298 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 7: we don't have fear, and sometimes we must admit that 299 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 7: we do have nothing. But what the resurrection is all 300 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 7: about is that God does not need our stress to 301 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 7: do what he said he is going to do. He 302 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: is not a man that he should lie, or the 303 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 7: son of man that he should repent. If God said 304 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 7: he's gonna get up, he's going to get up. And 305 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 7: if God said you're gonna get up, you're gonna get up. 306 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: And if God said you're gonna be an overcomer, you're 307 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 7: gonna be an overcomer. Because he rolls from the dead 308 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 7: with all power in his hands, and the angels began 309 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 7: to see, and heaven began to rejoice, and the glory 310 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 7: began to fall. Because he that was dead is alive forevermore. 311 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 7: He lives. He lives, We serve and absolutely risen savior, 312 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 7: not a defeated fold of feeling nailed to a tree, 313 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 7: not a scandalous individual that's hostessized by his community. But 314 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 7: we are serving a risid lord, a roaring lion from 315 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 7: the time of Judah, the seat of Abraham, the bright 316 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 7: of morning Star, the lily of the valley. He got 317 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 7: up with all power in his hand. No wonder this 318 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 7: sobb is said. We've been made endure for a night. 319 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 7: But if you can take a tough night, I've got 320 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 7: news for your joy, absolute blessful joy comes in the morning. 321 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 7: And I just stopped by to tell you. I just 322 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 7: stopped by to let you know. I just stopped by 323 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: to declare unto you that I just check my watch. 324 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 7: It's not night anymore, Church, It's morning. Wipe the tears 325 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: out of your eyes and praise our God because he 326 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 7: rolls up early, early, early Sunday morning Resurrection. 327 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: It's the Michael Verry Show, the Place of where Woke 328 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: goes to die. 329 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Reverend Billy Green. 330 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: What a level of influence he had, undoubtedly the most 331 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: well known preacher in America's history. So it's only fitting 332 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: that we do here on the show something I enjoy 333 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: doing in my free time, going back and listening to 334 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: a few of his timeless sermons about the death and 335 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: resurrection of Jesus Christ. On this good Friday before Easter Sunday. 336 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with the real message of it all. Reverend 337 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: Billy Graham proclaiming that Jesus is alive. 338 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: You know, they only brought three charges against him. 339 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: To crucify. 340 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: One, they said, this man loves sinners. The second he 341 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: healed on the Sabbath day, I'm the third he claimed 342 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: to be the son of God. Did ever a man 343 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: die like Jesus. They first took long leather thorns with 344 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: steel pellets or let pellets on the end, and beat 345 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: him across the back until he could hardly stand up. 346 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: Then they put a crown of thorns on his brow, 347 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: and his face was bleeding. 348 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 7: And he dragged and. 349 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: Lifted and haul that cross. And then on the cross 350 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: he said, my God, whist out forsaking me. And then 351 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: he dropped his head and said it's finished. 352 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: Yes. 353 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: They laid him away in a tomb. And when they 354 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: went out to the tomb that morning, they heard the 355 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: greatest news the world is ever known. He is not here. 356 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: He has risen, He's alive. 357 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: He is not here. 358 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: They could not hold him. 359 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: He had blunket the. 360 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: That's the greatest news of the world has ever heard. 361 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: He's a living stap. 362 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: He's alive. 363 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: That is powerful stuff right there. As my pastor used 364 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: to say growing up, that's the good news. The next 365 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: one that we pulled because we literally could have handed 366 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: the show over to several hours of Billy Graham preaching 367 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: is Billy Graham preaching that the Lord has risen. 368 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Yes, Jesus Christ is alive. He rose from the dead. 369 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: And that day, that East Sunday morning, that first Easter, 370 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: when Mary and Mary Magdalene and Saloon went to the 371 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: grave expecting to annoy a dead body, they saw the 372 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: Angel sitting back and they said, where is Jesus. The 373 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: Angel said, he is not here. He has risen. I 374 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: said to you tonight that that's the greatest news the 375 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: world has ever heard. He is not here. He has 376 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: conquered the grave. He's alive. And ladies and gentlemen, I 377 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: believe that there's more proof that Jesus Christ rose from 378 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: the dead than almost any other fact in Roman history. 379 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: I don't believe there's a fact in ancient history today 380 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: so well proven as the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 381 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 7: But even if. 382 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: There was no proof, no historical proof, no scientific proof, 383 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: and there is, I would still believe it because I 384 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: believe this book is God's inspired words. And the whole 385 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: Early Church went up and down the country preaching the 386 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: resurrection of Jesus Christ. That was the thing that shook 387 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: the Roman Empire, that a man had risen from the dead, 388 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: that he was alive. Death could not hold him. Christ 389 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: is alive, He's a living savior. 390 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: As I said, we could have devoted the entire show 391 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: to Billy Graham's sermons on Easter, and it would have 392 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: been wonderful. 393 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: We chose not to do that. 394 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: But we do finish up our Billy Graham segment with 395 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: the Great Reverend and reconciliation with Heaven through the Cross. 396 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: The only way that earth can have a fine reconciliation 397 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: with Heaven. It's by way of the cross. The only 398 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: way that you can ever get to Heaven. It's by 399 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: way of the cross. And if Jesus Christ had not 400 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: gone to the cross, you could have never had sin forgiven, 401 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: you could have never gone to Heaven, and the problems 402 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: of earth would have never had a solution. Only by 403 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: the way of the Cross can we find and our 404 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: way back to God. And that's why it was important 405 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: that Jesus stay on the cross, because you see man 406 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: is in rebellion against God. Adam and Eve rebelled in 407 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: the Garden of Eden, and every man since Adam and 408 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: Eve has broken God's law and sinned against God. And 409 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: as a result of that, God and man are separated, 410 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: and man's only way back to God is through Jesus Christ. 411 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: Man had broken the law. Man deserved death, he deserved judgment, 412 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: he deserved hell. That God said, wait a minute, I'll 413 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 3: give my son. I'll let him die. I'll let him 414 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 3: take the judgment and the hell for you. And if 415 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: you will put your trust and your faith in my son, 416 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: I will forgive your sin. I will change your life. 417 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: I will give you an inner peace and joy and 418 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: satisfaction that you would never find in any other way. 419 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: So Jesus worth dying on that cross for your sin 420 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: and your sins. Some people say, why don't you try 421 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: to make your gospel relevant? The most relevant message in 422 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: the world tonight is the fact that Christ died for you. 423 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: He died in your place, He shed his blood for you, 424 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: and without that. 425 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Experience, no one. 426 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: Can get to Heaven. Yes, Jesus Christ died, and the 427 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: people laughed and sneered, And two people that sneered and laughed. 428 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: The most were these two thieves and murderers that were 429 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: dying with him. They were both mocking him, but one 430 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: of them became strangely silent. And finally, this one that 431 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: was silent turned and rebuked the other thief in the 432 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: other murderer, and said, we are dying justly. We deserve 433 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: to be crucifized. But not this man in the middle. 434 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: He's a good man. He's the son of God. Then 435 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: he turned to it and asked him what seemed to 436 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: be an improbable, unimpossible question. He said, remember me when 437 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: thou comest into thy kingdom? Will you remember me? Lord? 438 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: And then Jesus gave one of the most astounding answers 439 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: in the history of the world. The angels in hea 440 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: and must have been shaken and startled and amazed when 441 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: they heard what Jesus. Jesus said today today, how shalt 442 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: be with me in Paradise